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6a1efe No.534962

Matthew 25:41-43

Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.

67f192 No.534964

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e26972 No.534965

>>534962

It's kind of silly for you to imply that we're non-Christian for stating that they should be in their own country, especially we actually do assist their countries by contributing to annual foreign aid which grants them food, water, and shelter. We're following the verses, you aren't.

It's extremely tough to adjust in a new environment with a completely different language and culture, so it's better for them to remain in theirs in the long run.


16865b No.534969

Leviticus 24:22 - You shall have the same law for the stranger and for one from your own country; For I am the Lord your God


6a1efe No.534970

>>534965

I was a stranger and you did not take Me in


24af43 No.534977

Muslim economic migrants are neither hungry, nor thirsty, nor naked, nor sick, nor in prison. Neither are they strangers. We know who Islam represents. We know the Devil.


0387fb No.534981

Because God always encouraged the Israelites to open up their borders and let themselves be replaced. Is God a hypocrite who supports nationalism for the Jews but not for the rest of the world? I don't think so.

Deuteronomy 32:8: When the Most High apportioned the nations, when he divided humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the gods.


04bcad No.534982

>>534969

You are a moron. The "stranger" among you is always a Christian. As is the "brother" or "poor". Read the verses again and apply ecclesasties 3:18-21 and romans 8:8. Maybe read the Bible more in 1 corinthians. Stop wasting time helping ecclesasties 3:18-21's and help Christians.


63d01b No.535055

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>>534965

presumably politically you lean right wing and hold traditional Christian values and you identify with v poor qualitypic related. If so, surely you're being hugely inconsistent here. If you are a lefty and disagree with pic related then you're seemingly not being consistent either.

I agree with parts of your post, but I don't think it's silly to imply some people aren't Christian when, in light of certain verses of scripture, said professing Christian blatantly goes against said scriptures. Title of thread is about those who hate migrants. Saying they should stay in their own country is not necessarily hating them, there's no need to conflate the two. The question is how do you treat the people, migrant or non-migrant, in front of you, on your doorstep, in your community, once they're physically there. Do you love them? Or do you hate them?

>>534962

>>534977

Distinction has to be made between economic migrants, legal and illegal, and refugees. What happens on the macro scale is for the government to deal with at national immigration policy level. Christians aren't not allowed to have an opinion on how they think government should be dealing with these issues. However we as individuals in most circumstances are likely to never be in the position to determine whether one person who claims to be a refugee, or a legal immigrant, is genuine or not. Only God sees men's hearts. Therefore once they're here, if, as far as we can see, giving them the benefit of doubt, they're law-of-the-land abiding individuals (see Leviticus quote >>534969), then we should love them, evangelise them, serve them, help them to fit in, engage them to show them any of the errors of any of their ways we disagree with to help them fit in and rebuke them when called for. Most crucially, we need to pray for them - in other words, treat them as we should be treating any other human being who are right in front of us.

>inb4/leftypol/getoutREEEEEEEEE

Neither left nor right at this stage tbqh,

>>534982

>book of Leviticus, part of the Torah, the Old Covenant

>"stranger" here applies to Christians

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>inb4theoldisinthenewconcealsedthenewintheoldrevealed

Sure I get it, but this isn't one of those instances, clearly

I was aware that this was generally considered the case with the use of "brother" but I am very skeptical this is the case with "poor" and "stranger." Next time I read 1 Corinthians I am going to bear this in mind, but until then, feel free to elaborate or provide links that back this up. Do you really think the parable of the good samaritan isn't supposed to embody the service we're called to provide to strangers in need? If not what is the meaning of the parable, according to your understanding? My gut feeling is that the overwhelming majority of Christendom would disagree with you but I'm open to being shown wrong if that's the case.

>>534969

>The "stranger" among you is always a Christian.


99d163 No.535058

>"hating migrants"

Don't be dense. No one does. What they do hate is the wickedness in high places that suspends the rule of law unilaterally on a whim to import invaders illegally (not legal migration, but excessive unsupportable levels of illegal entry) into a country to destroy Christian heritage because of a hate for Christ and all he represents.

The sad thing is most Christians are so asleep they don't see what is happening.

Christianity used to be throughout the Middle East. It has been practically eliminated. The same is now happening (according to the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan) in Europe and any other Western Christian heritage nations.


99d163 No.535060

>>534962

>You didn't allow terrorists to illegally enter your country and run your children over.

>Bad Christian you are.

Even the Devil quotes scripture OP.


489e40 No.535075

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>>534962

I don't hate them, I love them as fellow human beings made in the image of God. I just don't want them to ruin my country because I kinda like it here. Also a lot of them are very ungrateful of the help they are given.

>"Ooh this country lets me stay here, they give me food and shelter, wellfare, let me burn down the asylum offices and rape their women"

>Pic is taken on a sunny day in Paris


69efa9 No.535089

>>534962

if they dont leave europe in the next 30 or so years it will be the end of christianity. we will be persecuted.


99d163 No.535090

>>535089

You were persecuted and wiped out - just like in the Middle East. Read Revelation for the details. We already know the future.


93b859 No.535096

>>535075

>I love my country more than I love my fellow man

I will pray for you.


9db7bb No.535101

>>535096

Multiculturalism is bad for everyone involved.


6f16d0 No.535102

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>>535055

>>534962

EVERY THREAD LIKE THIS SHOULD BE REPORTED


93b859 No.535104

>>535101

>it's bad because I say so

Ok, Dad.


1fa167 No.535105

>>535096

My country is made up of my fellow man, tho. If you set the stranger above your own you aren't walking right either.

>But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. (1 Timothy 5:8)


93b859 No.535110

>>535105

That verse isn't about your nation. It's about your house. Your literal house.


67f192 No.535118

>>535104

>Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayest be longlived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee.

Part of the reason we're in this mess is because people today think they're so much wiser than their ancestors.


f03073 No.535120

But we aren't taking them in. The state is taking them in and placing them where they will. Either the government is Christian and we abolish abortion, gay "marriage," welfare, and secular public schooling, or we stop using "le not a reel christain" when we refuse to let a secular, evil government continue their attack on the people.


a58849 No.535121

>>535102

I said we should rebuke them and show them the error of their ways should we have reason to, just the same as any other person, migrant or native. Jesus had reason to because he knew what was in their hearts. We do not have that knowledge by default, therefore unless we have reason to do otherwise (rebuke, scourge etc.) we should treat individual migrants who land on our shores with the same basic respect we treat non-migrants. We can admonish immigration policy, but there's no reason why we should admonish the individual without any grounds.


969757 No.535122

Politics go in this thread: >>508486




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