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the absolute madman, the 3 of them couldn't keep up with him

Kent Hovind is great, he's such a awesome guy. I owe so much of my YEC belief to him.

Not even other Young Earth Creationists like Kent Hovind and his arguments.

https://creation.com/arguments-we-think-creationists-should-not-use

https://creation.com/maintaining-creationist-integrity-response-to-kent-hovind

http://www.oldearth.org/drdino.htm

He also refuses to have written debates:

http://www.nmsr.org/hovind.htm

and is a notorious tax scammer, despite earning hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars. I think it goes a little beyond "ethical tax avoidance". More like pure greed and deceptive, slimy behaviour. He's not just a liar, but a very bad one too.

To be fair, none of this should be put before his arguments, but since his onstage presence and rhetoric seem to be quite powerful in convincing people, it's probably good to draw attention to his sneaky, conman-like behaviour to encourage a little more skepticism, a little more wising up to any tricks he might try to pull. I think for a lot of the people on here supporting him, even any slight hint of this kind of behaviour would be used as ammunition for an instant, merciless dismissal and condemnation if the person argued for things they fundamentally disagreed with.

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>>530964

Hopefully just pretending to be retarded

>>530974

Any source on that tax evasion statement? His argument and evidences in this video seemed very convincing, and the other links don't seem particularly damning to me.

>>530974

>>530995

>and is a notorious tax scammer, despite earning hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars. I think it goes a little beyond "ethical tax avoidance".

he went to jail for it, but his tax evasion battle with the IRS has literally no bearing on his character or his arguments

tldr not an argument

>>531011

A bad tree etc etc. ;)

I'm kidding. I know it's not an argument against his claims - but against his credibility. Have more scrutiny toward men like this.

>>531020

it's not like he committed some violent crime or something, he didn't pay his taxes, got caught, went to jail and served his time and was released

>>531023

He did get charged with battery or something once but it was dropped

>>531026

I jaywalked once and got a fine

What's your point

>>531343

whats tihis pic

evolution is a result of the fall.

And by evolution I mean death, adaptation, mutation, decay and suffering.

Species/races are poorly defined so we can't really say if dinos turned to birds but that seems retarded in itself.

>>531011

>tax evasion battle with the IRS

details? I pretty sure it has something to do with 'employees' and them not being considered 'payed employees' or something like that also >IRS

>>530995

http://www.ustaxcourt.gov/InOpHistoric/Hovind.TCM.WPD.pdf

The US taxcourt document is the only thing I could find so far.

>>531626

>still quoting the heretic Origen

Augustine and Aquinas were creationists, as was Christ himself (as a believer of the OT)

>>531811

That's just not true…

>>531811

>Christ Himself

Don't play that card, m8.

I think it would be interesting to be a Young Earth Creationist, and I wish I was smart enough to understand their arguments.

Kent Hovind is a fucking idiot. One time, he said that plants would be considered “more evolved” than humans under evolutionary thought because they have a larger genome. The dumb ass doesn’t seem to realize that the concept of “more evolved” isn’t an evolutionary concept because all organisms evolve to better suit their environment; therefore, “more evolved” is a relative and subjective concept. Also, the size of a genome says nothing about how complex an organism is, and no evolutionary scientist endorses that train of thought. The quality of an organism determines its complexity, and even that isn’t technically “more evolved” because a complex organism needs complex interactions with their environment; there are strengths and weaknesses to increased complexity in organisms.

>>531465

ummm What does Porn, homosexuals, and school violence have to do with biology?

>>532243

Everything. If you believe in godless evolution porn and homosexuality isn't wrong because there is no real right or wrong. Why should porn be bad? After all, it's just sex on a screen. There's nothing sacred about it. Why should homosexuality be bad? It occurs in nature after all. Also school violence is easily justifiable under Darwinian evolution's concept of survival of the fittest, the Columbine shooters were influenced by Darwin so was Jeffrey Dahmer and so was Hitler.

What you believe about origins will form your worldview.

>>532422

That's funny because you're the heathen who is following whatever your taught in the public school system. Just another brainwashed monkey. I guess we shouldn't question the LGBT agenda as well since it's being taught and accepted in schools now as well. Funny how Christians believe there is an LGBT agenda but won't accept that there is an agenda to hijack science to promote evolutionary theory. The spiritual war is across all domains including Science. Lucifer is the god of this world and deceives the whole world, why wouldn't his deception go as far as to deceive scientists as well? People who reject and Christ will be deceived.

Christians who embrace evolution make me sick to my stomach. If they can twist the word of God to fit in evolution they can twist anything. In my eyes yo're not a real Christian, you're just another atheist monkey pretending to be a Christian - btw monkey is not an insult, you believe you're a monkey, a filthy animal and not the creation of God man in his own image.

>>533530

Quality post. God bless you, brother.

>>531626

>Genesis is allegorical

Granting that the days are allegorical to be true to scripture you must admit that from the time of Adam to Jacob was about 3,500 years making the earth about 7,500 years old.

Talking about literal vs figurative days is just a read herring.