b90b8a No.527877
How to Christianize Japan?
f11229 No.527879
a65ec9 No.527883
>>527877
Japan, like the US, is a swamp where Christianity can't grow
d05327 No.527884
>>527877
that's the least of your problems. Figure out how to keep your own countries christian then worry about some self-contained island on the other side of the planet.
58d0ec No.527909
>>527884
I agree with this. We must remove the log from our eye before we help our neighbor with the speck in his.
579700 No.527911
>>527877
>How to Christianize Japan?
Convince them that:
Katanas are not cool.
Amaterasus are not cool.
Tengus are not cool.
Sun emperors are not cool.
Peach boys are not cool.
Ogres are not cool.
Spirits are not cool.
Etc.
aka
impossibru
dc5012 No.527914
>>527883
Over 70% of the US believes in some form of Christianity, what are you talking about?
dee415 No.527915
>>527914
How many of those people do you think truly believe?
dc5012 No.527917
>>527915
Only god would know for sure. But I would say less then 1/3.
7327a8 No.528018
By inventing a time machine and tell America not to nuke the Christian centers of Japan.
6845fc No.528022
Devout Christians need to move to Japan on at least a nearly permanent basis and completely immerse themselves in the culture, learn the language, read their formative documents, learn their history, raise their children speaking Japanese, etc. Then they just need to live devoutly and invite others to join them. It's not flashy, but it's how it needs to be done
ab2682 No.528024
0b2dda No.528026
>>528022
Christians already do this in Japan. Professional racist, Jared Taylor grew up in Japan with his missionary parents.
6845fc No.528027
>>528026
>Professional racist
See >>528024
1ecdff No.528050
Religious practice is largely done as a cultural activity in Japan. Imagine Easter/Christmas Christians but for 3 religions: There's a saying that the average Japanese will have a Shinto coming-of-age ceremony, a Christian wedding, and a Buddhist funeral. Add Shinto festivals and holidays to that and you can see how they tend to view religion in general.
This is largely a product of their complicated history, and their tight adherence to cultural norms keeps it intact. I'd fear that whatever could break their view of Christianity as a ceremonial or aesthetic concern would also shatter their culture as a whole. Maybe I'm just pessimistic.
72ff8a No.528063
>>527915
but that is the same for every "christian" country.
b6ba0c No.528070
>>527911
What does thinking a type of sword is cool have to do with accepting Jesus?
9455a8 No.528092
>>527884
This is basically true. Terrible image to Christianize when our countries are going atheist.
We only suceeded in Christianizing when Europe was highly Christian by default, actually so Christian 30 years war was preferable to atheism, maybe too fervent even.
They look at us and see a bunch of weaklings in faith.
9455a8 No.528097
>>527883
Have some self respect.. Japan does not have the degeneracy of US.
7fce10 No.528098
>>528097
It does. Just a different kind of degeneracy.
9455a8 No.528102
>>528098
Well. It does not have:
-Epidemic of Heroin
-Fertile Marxist Breeding Ground
-Endemic Abortion (there is some, but fair less)
-Divorce Crisis
-Single moms everywhere
-Serious fatness issues
-Promiscuity at first years of puberty
-A mass media and movie industry that is obviously anti christian
- A military industrial complex that has more power than the democratically elected government, while boasting to the world about being a democracy
And last but not least
- US is a republic, Japan a constitutional monarchy
I could go on and on
US is slowly being killed from the inside. Japan is simply bleeding from fall of empire.
106e26 No.528108
>>528102
US: Hey, what's this
*Picks up liberalism pill*
Britain: Hoe, don't do it
*US swallows pill*
Later
US: Hey, take this pill Japan.
Japan: I don't wanna
US: HOW DARE YOU
*Nukes*
Japan: KAWAII DESU ^o^
US: Wut
8a7bcb No.528110
>>527884
at least scoffers have access to the resources to be saved
3082d9 No.528113
>>527877
Oh how deep this problem goes. I'll start.
3082d9 No.528114
>>528113
Japan is an extremely tough nut to crack.
My church, a portmanteau of the Korean presbyterian style hymn church and a (((nondenominational, libprot, Hillsong))) english for the young'uns, went to Japan to evangelise and failed miserably.
3082d9 No.528116
>>528114
Well, I suppose it didn't help that they were "悪いな韓国の鬼" (de ebil gorean debils DDD:<).
But, it was a fundamental schism of culture. Whether these people could have done better if they were real Koreans, closer to Asian culture, and not all Americanised, is another question.
1. Historical context and culture
What happened every single time Christians came to Japan? They were rejected. But it's not because their hearts were held, but because of the culture. Japan's culture at the time of missionaries, Jesuits, Romans, Portuguese, etc., was Buddhism, confucianism, and shintoism.
>Buddhism: incompatible with Christian conceptions of God, morality, life and death, the world history
>Confucianism: ancestor worship is incompatible
>Shintoism: do I really need to say anything?
Anytime christians wanted to talk about the one true God, it was a direct affront to the Emperor, the descendant of 天照大神 (Amaterasu, and whatever). High treason. Then all the christians get 'ryuujin no ken wo kurae'd' out of Japan. Oops.
This is called 大和魂 (Yamato tamashi, "the spirit of the Japanese people"). Japan might be a democracy, but the nation is still technically a monarchy/theocracy. When christians come in, it is seen as an infestation, a cancer, or infection, once they start pushing ebil western ideas (even though christianity is an oriental religion). Thus, what happens when a nice row of japanese houses and sens and wells and temples and rock things get split up with giant roman temples, protestant warehouses, or orthodox onion churches? They protest. They get disillusioned, if they were even paying attention to begin with.
3082d9 No.528120
>>528116
2. Culture of conformity
>"出る杭は打たれる"
>"The nail that sticks out gets hammered down"
Let's say you were a normal japanese guy. You study or maybe you're a salaryman thinking about going to onsen or karaoke or some garbage. What happens when you get the option of converting to christianity or not? Will you risk forsaking your ancestors, your nation, the emperor (the son of heaven)? Are you going to risk having your company culture and your neighbourhood culture disrupted by your flippant decision to throw off Yamato tamashi? No. You won't. You're going to stay that nominal japanese spiritual stuff. You'll ignore the funny westerners (or western-acting easterners). You'll still pray at butsudan. You'll light offerings and go to buddhist temples and shinto shrines, even if it's just symbolic or cultural. This is the ritual culture of japan.
Ritual is extremely important in Japan. It's baked into the language, with levels of respect, there are unwritten rules on how to walk, talk, look, ask, whatever. This cannot be ripped, especially with some protestants' desire to remove hierarchy or ritual. Nor can it be replaced (easily) with rosaries, incense, icons, or whatever. i say ごめんなさい, cathodox.
Culture of honour, 我慢, endurance:
Japanese people take honour seriously. Losing even a game in preschool feels 100x worse for Japanese kids. The mission team that got sent to japan tried this with english teaching and games for the kids. Once the team lost, the kids sat in the corners and bawled their eyes out. Repenting? Supplication in prayer? Becoming like sheep? Any other christian doctrine even remotely like that? gg mait.
3082d9 No.528121
>>528120
So you're probaly asking how Japan can accept christianity?
Simple. It needs to fit the culture first.
Would christianity have ever penetrated europe like it had if it had not absorbed easter, christmas, certain practises, and so on?
I'm not telling you to corrupt or dilute christianity with pagan things. Instead, the christianity should blend in seamlessly into the cultural landscape. In this situation, being "set apart" and "a strange people" is detrimental. Christians established in Japan would have to rely on covert dissemination instead of talking loudly.
Priests and pastors look like kannushi. The liturgy and creeds are written in Sutraic classical chinese. The bell functions as toaca. The christianity should be hidden in the first step. Afterwards, it can slowly morph in whatever direction it needs to.
Look at these heretical nestorian chinese churches, for examples. Wonder why a heretical lie nestorianism was so successful in china (to they point where even the emperor of dynasty was one)? Really makes me think.
3082d9 No.528122
>>528109
The Jews don't fear the samurai.
ad14a0 No.528123
Japan was already Christianized before the US dropped two nukes and killed all the Catholics.
ebf430 No.528151
>>528123
The freemasons have to be stopped, tbh.
ff9aa2 No.528163
>>527884
^This
Luke 6:41
First we need to fix ourselves, and then, when and if we will come back to our Christian fullness as individuals, nations and Countries, then we could start and debate how to fix other Countries. Send the missionaries there as well, but first let's look at our own issues.
628741 No.528170
>>527884
>>527909
Wrong. Jesus commanded us to go forth and spread the good news to all nations, not to go home and keep pestering vehemently pagan grandparents. The west has apostatised and rejected catholic christianity which no excuse of ignorance thus as Jesus commanded we must move on to those who have ears for hearing not dwell on those who knowingly reject god
78a715 No.528180
The history of christianity in Japan is extraordinary. I want them to keep their 8 million gods as secular traditions but I also want them to convert.
That in the 1500's would be impossible but not today.
f9af42 No.528183
>>528102
>- US is a republic, Japan a constitutional monarchy
That's actually a good part of US
d05327 No.528184
>>528170
>not to go home and keep pestering vehemently pagan grandparents. The west has apostatised and rejected catholic
Firstly, the west isn't pagan. It's either christian or ex-christian, or some combination thereof. Secondly, you are the west. Or, as far as japan's concerned, you represent the west. What example are you setting?Why should they listen to your Christian preaching knowing that you practice at home so little of what you preach? The west is rampant with atheistic nihilism and sexual perversions and you abdicate responsibility for your own home to go preach in distant lands? How much of your desire to preach comes from resentment?
"we can't make our (ex)christian lands moral so we'll find some moral lands an make them christian"
see >>528163
ff9aa2 No.528191
Did I say anywhere to not preach to them? I said we should first fix ourselves but also send missionaries there. I prioritize the West because, like you too admitted, we have apostatized.
ff9aa2 No.528194
>>528180
My very devout grandmother had a lot of books on myths and legends of the past; she always spent time reading them to my siblings and me: there are some Christian values in there, small nuggets of course.
Being a good Christian does not mean desiring to destroy those parts of history, but ensuring they are seen as something from which we can learn but that we should not venerate.
6c693b No.528197
You cannot christanize Japan. Our continued experiments into memetic evolution has instilled in them the power to sexualize anything, from nun habits to the Vatican.
Furthermore, as a certain spot in Japan is hyperspatially closest naturally occurring 'riverbank' point to an upper universe where beings that surpass God/Yahweh exist, it is not wise to disturb them.
Do not show yourselves to them - humbly learn to make do with what you have, for it is the greed for worldly power that destroyed christianity. Be humble and contrite, and learn to clean your own house first.
7417aa No.528226
>>528197
Upboated my good sir
f324e2 No.528237
>>528183
The only democracy in the Bible is when the mob votes to crucify Jesus.
f324e2 No.528238
>>528180
Most Japanese view the kami as mythology instead of as real gods. They just haven't picked up belief in the real God to replace them like the ancient Europeans did with their gods. This is because they alreasy have Buddhism as a metaphysical framework, and because of World War II.
dcc205 No.528244
lets start by selling them our guns
b90b8a No.528252
>>528197
>Dont try to convert them
hmmm, sounds like a heresy to me
b90b8a No.528254
>>528237
Democracy is a regime
Republic and Monarchy are government types
Learn the differences before posting something this retarded
And also, there were numerous other precendents of people voting for something…like when they asked for a king…which have upset God btw…
f324e2 No.528258
>>528254
Democracy is a government type. Ancient Athens was a democracy. Ancient Rome was a republic. Perhaps you have some learning to do. The terms are generally used interchangeably today. Stop playing semantics. It's retarded.
9455a8 No.528259
>>528121
I didn't know there was a Nestorian chinese emperor. Something new learned everyday.
b90b8a No.528261
>>528258
>Democracy is a government type.
No its not, its a regime.
Regimes are ranged from democracy to autocracy, and depends on in whose hands political power is concentrated. More centralized the power is, more it is keen to autocracy.
Republic-Monarchy is government form and depends on if system is elective or hereditary. Therefore you have democratic constitutional monarchies.
f324e2 No.528268
>>528261
That sounds like a categorization some 20th century academic cooked up using already existing terms. Petulantly restricting word usage to such a categorization is mere semantics. Ancient Athenian citizens were directly voting on policies without elected representatives, meaning that their form of government was a democracy, not a republic. Both terms have different connotations and denotations depending on context, but are in popular use synonyms. Insisting on one denotation to the exclusion of others is retarded.
9455a8 No.528273
>>528268
Constitutional Monarchies can be Democracies, if the executive branch of the government is elected by popular suffrage.
The representative/cerimonial/cultural figure remains with dynastic dynamics.
f324e2 No.528276
6c693b No.528277
>>528252
Go ahead, then. There are things in there that will teach you humility lurking in the angles of space that the human mind is simply unable to comprehend.
As the christian church learned humility a mere 300 years ago - micro-seconds on the geological scale, so will you learn humility in the elder darkness where the feeble semitic gods have no power.
Call my warning a 'heresy' if you want, if it helps you sleep easier at night. But remember - pride comes before a fall. And so a religion that needs to expand despite the fact it's rotting from within is the epitome of hubris.
(USER WAS THROWN INTO THE ABYSS FOR THIS POST) 4f016b No.528281
>>528197
>as a certain spot in Japan is hyperspatially closest naturally occurring 'riverbank' point to an upper universe
I am interested in this and would like to know more. not sure if larp
f05ed4 No.528282
>>528122
>Kabaalistic bullshit
>The Cross on top of it
What the fuck is this? Who made this? Where is this from? What is it supposed to mean? That we are fucking Gnostics?
f324e2 No.528286
>>528281
Sounds like a weeaboo recapping the premise of an anime.
>>528282
I think it's from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
9455a8 No.528294
>>528282
>That we are fucking Gnostics?
Kabbalistic tree is inspired on Judaism mysticism.
So no, at most it can imply we are a bunch of crypto-jews worshipping remains of babyloniac religion, but that's not gnosticism
b63451 No.528319
>>528282
As mentioned, it is from Neon Genesis Evangelion. It is written by Hideako Anno from Gainax. When you watch it, you will quickly notice, that Gainax had no idea what the fuck they were doing. It was a great hit during the 90s and still has some undeserved and unintended influence over the post Christian West.
9455a8 No.528320
I think we can all agree on this regardless of ethnicity and religion
f05ed4 No.528321
>>528294
Gnosticism was basically the Christian version of Kabaalism.
9455a8 No.528323
>>528321
Kabbalism is Judaism after absorving religious elements from the suposed goyim tribes they saw as less than cattle. Ironically they ended up being closet Goy admirers.
Christianism and Gnotiscism is putting Christianity and Esoterism in a Blender.
The only serious logical heresy claim they make is how much they refuse OT while at the same time accepting Jesus as Messiah.
4f2bb1 No.528324
>>528323
ya gnosticism isn't bad, those bad Catholics were just picking on good boys going to church who dindonuffin
9455a8 No.528330
>>528324
It's a different religion that accepts Jesus.
Being completly honest, post-Roman Empire Christianity, with semi pagan rituals of Christmas and Easter, if early Christians saw it, what guarantee is there they wouldn't it consider such a thing a heretical blend?
f05ed4 No.528332
>>528330
>Christmas is pagan in any way
no.
It was calculated by adding 9 months to the Annunciation.
Furthermore, the pagan holiday that Christmas supposedly ripped off took place several days earlier than the 25th.
>Easter is pagan in any way
I'll never understand this. The most I could find was that because the English name of Easter is similar to Eostre, then Easter is based off… something. What?
7327a8 No.528333
>Implying Christianity is not being subconsciously drilled into the young of Japan through anime and TV shows.
4f2bb1 No.528335
>>528330
as does Islam.
But would Jesus accept Gnostics? Only if they accept Him as Christ, and don't disregard OT.
4f2bb1 No.528337
>>528335
aka, not being gnostic may I add
9455a8 No.528351
>>528332
>>528335
>>528337
>>528324
All the Gnostic Hunters were either Crusaders or Inquisitors, which by the way, sooner or later would hunt down Orthodox if they had nowhere else to pillage.
So you're OK with Inquisition and burning Orthodox at the stake? It's just collateral damage
b5d59e No.528354
>>528333
That guy is an outlier, most Japanese entertainment is not made by Christians and has a pretty shallow understanding of Christianity
4f2bb1 No.528357
>>528351
>All the Gnostic Hunters were either Crusaders or Inquisitors
Good. I am also A-OK with the Inquisition hunting down the crypto-jews in Spain/Italy/France.
>which by the way, sooner or later would hunt down Orthodox if they had nowhere else to pillage.
If God had willed it, it would have happened.
9455a8 No.528358
>>528355
Very well. If are ok with the Cathar supression, that is a position to hold, but you lose any right to complain or whine about the inevitable Catholic Supremacy and its Historical supression methods.
The simple reason Protestants aren't written off in same page as Gnostics, is because they fought back too much in 30 years war, unlike Gnostics who were defeated. History is written by the winners and survivors.
9455a8 No.528360
>>528357
>If God had willed it, it would have happened.
Are you an outsider visiting Christian? It DID happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople_(1204)
4f2bb1 No.528366
>>528360
I meant in the context of annihilation, such as the persecution of Marranos, Conversos, Gnostics, Arians, etc.
4f2bb1 No.528367
>>528358
poor judiazers, if only they had survived and passed on their poison to us. /pol/ and /fringe/ larpers would have more things to talk about
9455a8 No.528384
>>528367
Alright. Then the logical step for your life is to swear submission to your Catholic Superiors and to drop your Orthodox flag.
4f2bb1 No.528385
>>528384
I am a Catholic, I have an orthodox flag on? wut
9455a8 No.528387
>>528385
Sorry I got confused. First people bashing mention of Gnostics did have Orthodox flag.
I just find the it extreme hipocrisy when members of a sect that can potentially be persecuted for Heresy to cheer on the Heresy hunters, yet whine in victim pain when it's their turn to be the target.
It's same level of illogic as Protestants calling Gnostics Heretics.
f4c309 No.528391
>>527877
>the entire world needs to be Christian before the onslaught of 'migrants' physically removing Christianity
or better yet don't fuck around with other countries and force your religion down their throats
4f2bb1 No.528392
>>528391
tell WASPs and neo-cons to knock it off then
9455a8 No.528402
>>528391
The ones using religion and fucking with countries is not Catholic Christianity by any means.
You're thinking of WASPs and Neo Conservatives (that include Jewish Supremacists aswell)
82dd34 No.528426
>>528018
Those Christian centers would have done literally nothing to evangelize Japan. I can't think of a single genuine missionary effort by Christians in the last 50 years tbh.
aa2bb3 No.528431
Already got about 20 mosques in Japan, so the Muslims have a foothold. Better get to work if you want to Christianize Japan. Don't wait for someone else to do it. Sell your shit and buy a plane ticket. Today.
570c98 No.528443
>>528320
Except that's not true. Hiroshima was not a diocese until 1959 and in WW2 it was a vicarite of the archdiocese of Osaka. Blatantly fake conspiritard nonsense makes you look like an idiot.
1e4981 No.528446
>>528022
Japan doesn't want a bunch of Christian gaijin shitting up their country; they already have to put up with military settlers. Just leave them alone; they are maintaining their society better than the West and don't need the cultural Cancer that is the modern West destroying their role and promoting mass immigration. Fix your own countries. If all of Japan gets the virtuous pagan treatment, it's better than anything you'd cause trying to play the superhero
0aab07 No.528447
>>528446
>Good goy, don't proselytize Japan, ignore what Jesus said in the gospel, leave them alone
No
9455a8 No.528452
>>528443
Pretty bold of you to call me an idiot while you utterly ignore that Nagasaki was the oldest Christian Cultural center in Japan and got Nuked and disappeared in Hellfire.
Are you jealous it was Catholic Jesuits rather than Orthodox?
9455a8 No.528455
>>528426
>it's irrelevant for the Christian cause if we obliterate Christian centers with Nukes
Yeah sure thing Truman
9455a8 No.528464
>>528461
You don't know about Nagasaki? Jesuits started proselyting there in middle of XVI century.
It was an ancient center. Go google it at least.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception_Cathedral,_Nagasaki
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/01/20/business/discovering-nagasakis-secret-christian-past/
Started with Portuguese Jesuits. Sources from Vatican, Portugal and Japan confirm what I (and many other people) claim on this. Later Matchlocks would also be sold to the Daymios.
d05327 No.528472
>>528446
It's a "memetic" function dude. It must spread. They can't help it. As I've said before, unfortunately, a lot of these guys care more about finding moral countries to make 'christian' , than keeping their own christian countries moral (and christian) .It's far easier to covet and claim the fruits of others than tend to your own garden. And it gives them an excuse not to. Some do get it tough.
0aab07 No.528474
>>528467
>>528464
That's great and all but it doesn't change the fact that neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki were archdiocese in the RCC until after the War. I don't support freemasons or their masonic activities but the image is still bunk.
e5599e No.528476
>>528281
Not a larp. There are spaces in time-space where the anomalies appear. Japan just so happened to be established right on top of such a point. Provided with spectrometers and other analytical tools, the existence of this 'upper universe' can be directly observed. Judging by the observed phenomena, the wisest option so far is to not antagonize whatever, or whoever is on the other side.
Scoff if you will, but know that even the jews and the muslims who sought to establish 'control' and 'expansion' there are being absorbed, and turned. So it will be for you as well.
The abyss is my home. I smile as many of you ignore my honest warning, and in hubris, march into the place of no return. Religions built on arrogance will collapse on itself - that is manifest destiny.
By the way, the Pope said something interesting as of late.
http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/2017/05/pope_francis_sex_abuse_cases_2.html
Perhaps christians should seek to remedy this instead of seeking to arrogantly spread their 'faith'.
7fce10 No.528479
>>528474
Oh, I agree. I find the whole idea of some deep secret freemason cabal to be /pol/-tier nonsense.
>>528476
>Scoff if you will
I did, Mr. /fringe/, I did.
b0742f No.528481
e5599e No.528484
>>528478
>>528479
Ezekiel 28:17-18
(17) " Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty;
You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor;
I cast you to the ground,
I laid you before kings,
That they might gaze at you.
(18) “ You defiled your sanctuaries
By the multitude of your iniquities,
By the iniquity of your trading;
Therefore I brought fire from your midst;
It devoured you,
And I turned you to ashes upon the earth
In the sight of all who saw you.
Like moths to a flame, unknowing of their doom, the arrogant ones covet the fruits of others, the greed for worldly wealth blinding them to the horrors that wait beyond the perceptual boundary of the human senses.
0aab07 No.528486
>>528479
>I find the whole idea of some deep secret freemason cabal to be /pol/-tier nonsense.
Freemasons did a bunch of stuff, here are just some of the most important ones:
>French Revolution
>Napoleon
>Communism (Marx and Lenin were Masons)
>WW2 (Truman and Churchill were also Masons)
>Nelson Mandela
>The United States (many founding fathers were Masons)
>South America (literally every South American rebellion against their colonizers was led by a Mason)
>Jesse Jackson
Freemasons are responsible for some of the worst travesties in history, but the image discredits itself.
7fce10 No.528490
>>528484
You promised us you would be homeless and not have internet! Stop breaking your promises!
>>>/sudo/49653
570c98 No.528496
>>528452
>>528464
You are ignoring the fact that the image you posted is factually incorrect and the bombing of Nagasaki was not primarily motivated, if at all, because of it being a center of Catholicism. The percentage of Catholics in Japan during and before WW2 is totally negligible to be of interest or importance. You are truly just delusional and I wish you would think of things more critically because you make the rest of us look bad.
d05327 No.528504
*Rant:*
Honestly, I see these "let's convert Japan" threads every week now. You're acting like leftists: they always go for the rich countries, never to the poor.
It's not like Japan is the worst place on earth. Quite the contrary. It's better in some ways than a lot of your countries . It's not that Japan of all places desperately needs Christianity, it's that you need Japan so you can feel better about yourselves.
If you have to proselytize, why not a "Let's convert Somalia" thread, or a "Let's convert Malaysia" . Malaysia is pretty near to Japan on the map, and let me tell you, it could probably use a good'ol dose of Christianity a hell lot more than Japan . But no, that's risky, that's dangerous, that needs actual work to bear fruits, Malaysia is not nice, it'd be a hell lot easier is we go to Japan and it just stayed exactly as Japan but got a Christian paint job so we could pat ourselves on the backs without having done anything important.
*End rant*
b90b8a No.528505
>>528476
>Perhaps christians should seek to remedy this instead of seeking to arrogantly spread their 'faith'.
Maybe you should stop masturbating on anime monster girls and come back t real world
9455a8 No.528506
>>528496
>>528474
I hope you will re-consider in the future applying the same standards of heresy to masonry as you apply to gnosticism, at least.
Or do you need more evidence that the #1 ~500 years old Christianity center in Japan was nuked and obliterated in hellfire at the hands of a Masonic decision maker?
37b5e4 No.528508
>>528277
>Feeble semitic gods
Lol you're a straight up larper. Lay off the DMT.
c5734d No.528512
>>528476
>Religions built on arrogance will collapse on itself
Just as well Christianity isn't then.
Also
>you can only focus on one thing at a time! choose between investigating paedophiles or converting others!
>Being this lacking in imagination
>>528504
>they always go for the rich countries, never to the poor.
That's because the rich, the well educated and full-fed need the Gospel more than the poor.
Take Ireland for example. 1,500 years of invasions, famines, genocides, clerical abuse et al couldn't break the spirit of this Catholic people. But suddenly the "Celtic Tiger" economy happens and people suddenly think they're too clever for God. What Satan couldn't do by violence he did by lucre. And boy did he ever hit this one out of the park.
I take your point about re-evangelising the "home countries", but it does no harm to go to other shores as well.
>>528482
>yfw this bust of Our Lady is all that remains of that original church
Our Lady of Nagasaki, pray for us ;_;
9455a8 No.528513
>>528512
>Take Ireland for example. 1,500 years of invasions, famines, genocides, clerical abuse et al couldn't break the spirit of this Catholic people. But suddenly the "Celtic Tiger" economy happens and people suddenly think they're too clever for God.
Jokes on them, they had a financial meltdown on their banking sector that required a bailout that in turn pretty much killed the health of their public debt, and they are part of countries with austerity in target, constantly mocked in european related economical newspapers.
Seems devil isn't that good at seducing, or gives a horrible revenge to those who get seduced too easily.
570c98 No.528518
>>528506
I simultaneously hold the beliefs that Masons are heretics and that you are full of shit.
c5734d No.528519
>>528513
>Seems devil isn't that good at seducing, or gives a horrible revenge to those who get seduced too easily.
Reminds me of the parable Abp. Fulton Sheen told about a soul in Heaven visiting Hell, thinking it's not so bad, and visits it a few more times until he realises he can no longer leave it.
9455a8 No.528523
>>528518
Well I got proven correct in the whole thread and backed all my points on missionaries from 400-500 years ago with sources that can be verified outside of internet, albeit more laborous.
Post some sources at least. All I claimed is backed up by sources, what is your source that I am lying about the existence of Jesuits doing work in Japan in the 1500s-1600s? (while defending high level masons from guilt of obliterating christian centers in nuclear hellfire, and saying disaprovel on masonry is going "too far")
>>528519
Not that far off. What is Ireland mission, now that their reason for thinking they are too smart to live with God has pretty much humiliated and betrayed them?
9455a8 No.528525
>>528523
*claiming I'm full of bull while absolving masonry responsability in nuking christianity centers
that's not very orthodox of you
c5734d No.528527
>>528523
They'll just keep heading down that dark road to paganism, as they have also recently just accepted "gay marriage".
This year, only six men enrolled at St. Patrick's as priests. Six. The country which quite literally used to export priests around the world because there were to many of them to employ at home only decades ago now can't even scrape together a dozen men commited to the cloth.
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-priesthood-hits-a-222-year-record-low-as-only-six-sign-up
I really don't know what the future holds for them, but it can't be good. I just pray that the young will start to ride on the rising trend of tradition which is starting to take in the USA and elsewhere in Europe.
c5734d No.528528
>>528527
>This year, only six men enrolled at St. Patrick's as priests
Should be "seminarians".
9455a8 No.528537
>>528527
>>528528
Can't tell what their reaction will be. But if they are counting on economy and financial sucess as their God replacement, Satan is not even seducing them, he is ripping them off out of sadism.
They are going to get more and more austerity and more and more job insecurity, and reinforce their status as a nation of immigrants. They are going to end with neither financial sucess nor tradition and faith as things stand.
863217 No.528568
>>527883
I think you mean Europe, not America.
863217 No.528574
>>528184
I seem to recall a verse about dusting off your feet, anon. That's how some of us feel. Internet evangelism is better than nothing, though. Perhaps even better for reaching younger misguided generations.
Many here were probably edgy internet fedoras at one point.
75f219 No.528649
>>528482
Is that why the Americans made sure to brutalize Southern Germany and Italy during their occupation?
c0a001 No.528735
>>528523
You posted an image implying the reason Hiroshima and Nagasaki were targeted for nuclear attack was due to Truman being a mason and those two cities being the seats of the only archdioceses of the Catholic church in Japan. That is factually incorrect because Hiroshima was never an archdiocese and didn't even become a diocese until 1959 under Osaka. Furthermore you never provided any compelling evidence as to why an absolutely minuscule Christian population would necessitate nuclear bombing or be of any interest to Truman EVEN IF HE WAS motivated by eradicating Catholics.
You are totally nuts.
7e1d84 No.528764
>>528259
I think it might be this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom
The emperor might not have been a nestorian heretic, but he was a heretic of other sorts, with all sorts of weird woowoo Chinese mormon kind of stuff.
214d0a No.528767
>>528121
There wasnt any Nestorian Chinese Emperor my man but the Emperor did support the Nestorian missionaries
5d7f84 No.528769
>>528735
They were the Christian capital of Japan and thus the power base
>You are this mad Catholics are important enough to nuke
628741 No.528789
>>528769
Hey you can't argue with him. He calls himself orthodox therefore he's correct.
75f219 No.528822
>>528769
>>528789
So why did Truman a man who was wanted to nuke an entire was so peaceful and easy on Italy despite having the perfect opportunity to devastate the heart of Catholicism?
Why did he then leave the Catholic regions of Germany alone whilst serving up the protestant ones to the Soviets?
Why did he allow so many Catholic in his administration?
Finally do you genuinely think that Osaka and Nagasaki were Catholic Archdioceses in 1945? Can you provide a source for this?
75f219 No.528837
>>528822
*Hiroshima and Nagasaki
f324e2 No.528899
>>528822
There were lodges in Italy.
75f219 No.528908
>>528899
So are you saying that despite being willing to nuke an entire city just to kill 8,000 Japanese Catholics he would not allow *any* violence to be directed towards the heart of the Catholic Church just because there were lodges in that country?
How does that makes sense to you that he would have such black and white thinking? That he would stop at nothing to destroy Catholicism but wouldnt cause harm to a country just because it had a lodge even though harming one wouldnt mean harming the other?
>There were lodges in Italy.
There were also lodges in Germany as well as in Eastern Europe, however they were content to firebomb them and to hand them over to Soviet domination.
Additionally would it be correct to say that you have no sources for the claims of that Osaka and Nagasaki were Catholic Archdioceses in 1945?
d6c71b No.528944
>>528122
To be honest, Evangelion might not be really Christian but it does have a very Christian message behind it. The Kabbalistic and Christian symbolism is meaningless but I think the general message that the show put through with it's story is very positive.
>Humans hurt each other and are imperfect being but even then we should still do everything we can and try to love each other
>You cannot wallow in your despair, you have to learn to love yourself so that others will love you
>By loving yourself you learn how to love others
>>528354
You know it's still good that they see Christianity as "cool" and "exotic" it might be shallow but it means that more people might get interested in Christianity due to the themes they see in their media.
d6c71b No.528955
>>528946
But I'm not a girl and homosexual relations are a sin
d1cadf No.528980
>>528944
>Evangelion might not be really Christian
Understatement of the century
9c6a52 No.531897
>>528767
fugg XDD banbooseled again XDDDDD
442c8a No.531930
>>527877
How do we orchestrate a long term operation/plan from 8chan to achieve anything for that matter?
I love OPs idea (despite maybe prioritizing once Christianize, western countries first), but this'll only be armchair talk of what should be life goals.
If anons here are serious about this, the more competent leader-types (which would not be me) should start some new threads on topics on how to organize real-life crowd funds, programs to actually fulfill these goals or promote sites that do this.
2a5dfb No.532014
>>528446
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
- Mark 16:15
bbe75a No.532016
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>528446
>they are maintaining their society better than the West
>implying
86666e No.532017
Why are you all speaking of "christianizing" countries as if that's going to save anyone? It's as if you think you have to have most of the country convert, when that's never going to happen and if it is (like in europe) then the majority are (or were) cultural christians who are still unsaved Only a remnant has ever been called by God.
> “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.
>>532014
This
f11a20 No.532024
Paul’s Vision of the Man of Macedonia
6 Paul and his companions traveled throughout the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been kept by the Holy Spirit from preaching the word in the province of Asia. 7 When they came to the border of Mysia, they tried to enter Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not allow them to. 8 So they passed by Mysia and went down to Troas. 9 During the night Paul had a vision of a man of Macedonia standing and begging him, “Come over to Macedonia and help us.” 10 After Paul had seen the vision, we got ready at once to leave for Macedonia, concluding that God had called us to preach the gospel to them.
Why?
0499d7 No.532025
>>527877
"Christianizing" Japan would destroy everything positive about it and make it vulnerable to the Jewish parasite, ensuring the extinction of the Japanese people.
bbe75a No.532027
>>532025
Please leave.Ironic funposting still reeks of stool.
76078b No.532537
There's nothing to post that hasn't been written by this anon. >>531701
b69748 No.532731
Probably touched on already but does any Church even do missionaries to Japan? Has anyone done them themselves or heard stories of people who have? What about other countries in the east? Very curious.
57a4d6 No.532899
442c8a No.538035
>>527877
How effective are missionaries in developed countries? How to make Christianity hip in Japan? Pic related, this is what we're going up against…
4da311 No.538036
6c92f5 No.538038
But japs had one of the coolest pagan religions
d1b92a No.538043
>>528476
>there are spaces in time-space where anomalies appear
>Japan just so happened to be established right on top of such a point
You forgot something, mate : the Earth is constantly moving and rotating.
The x-y-z coordinates of Japan right now is different than it was a second ago.
Which means, Japan (heck, even Earth) is no longer situated on top of that "point".
Or are you arguing that the point moves together with the Earth?
If that's the case, it's no longer a point in space-time then.
It's just a magical focal point of imaginary mumbo-jumbo.