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dude you already made a thread about this

>>515747

He must have deleted and remade it, cause the old thread is 404

>>515744

Why did the mods delete the old thread?

>>515764

I don't know

>>515744

haha they pronounce kamikaze with a silent e

I love ye olde english

Make sure to post this documentary every time a new anime thread or a let's convert Japan thread comes up

>>516617

>implying we shouldn't convert Japan

>>516627

>implying you can convert reprobates

>>516628

>go ye out into the world and preach the gospel to every creature

>unless somehow literally an entire nation is reprobate then don't even bother

by that logic all humanity is reprobate

>>516642

Haven't watched it. Is Steve getting on them for not reproducing?

There's literally nothing wrong with being single if you're pouring the energy you'd be spending on a relationship on the gospel. Not that Nips are, but it's a dumb thing to get your panties up in a bunch over, especially since elders keep asking me if I have a girlfriend yet when I'm just trying to learn languages of the Bible and of people I want to evangelize.

>>516647

nah it was some american interviewer talking to the guy with the anime dolls in the thumbnail.

How long before Steven "High on VK" Anderson does a sermon on how evil vidya is where he rips vidya a new asshole? With that Far Cry 5 game coming early next year and if he ever found out about that anti-christian vidya, he will probably do a sermon on the evil video games including the games from Japan.

>>516665

Afaik the "Christians" in FC5 are actually Scientologist-esque cultists.

>>516665

Vidya is sinful though. You're wasting your precious life.

>>516665

iirc he mentioned video games once, there's a clip here somewhere

>Japan is suffering today because they reject the bible

Wrong, it's because they lost WW2

They may be paganist, but at least Japan is still a safe, high-trust society. Couldn't say the same about us.

>>519780

Japan is a vassal of the United States and has been poisoned by them, just like western Europe.

>>519644

>>515744

Dubs of truth.

Though to be honest, two of their cities with most Christian population get Nuked, and after that ""Holywood"" full of truthful messages gets implemented by force. (It would've been scrapped as foreign propaganda otherwise)

So yah they got pozzed like the whole West, US included did.

>>519648

Yeah I think he said something along the lines of "It's not evil. It's just stupid."

Is it true that the boy band videos in the documentary are Korean? No Japanese are gonna take it seriously if he made dumb mistakes like that.

Weebs are a plague on this earth

>>525420

>religion is evil and will rob us of muh freedums

yeah good job unironically posting a fedoratard comic in a christian board

I live in Japan. I'm not a weeb, but since I moved here the facts have gradually dawned on me. I'm from Canada. Japan is a much, much better society in many ways, despite its problems as stated in the video. The average Japanese is more moral than the average Westerner by far, even if their morality isn't Christian. Humility is still a virtue here, whereas arrogance has become the highest ideal in the West. In fact most Westerners seem to have turned their backs on all virtue, and despise God and the church. The Japanese have given up on believing their religions, but they haven't turned on them viciously like the West has. The Japanese are more tolerant and respectful toward Christianity than Western atheists are, I've found. The Japanese raise their children much better. The kids here are very sheltered. Kids back home are cynical, and already drinking, having sex, and using drugs by middle school, but the kids here are generally innocent and optimistic, and drugs are unheard of. There is a lot of alcoholism here but the kids are shielded from it, much better than back home. All that perverted stuff you hear about endlessly back in the West is kept totally in the closet here, thank God. The Japanese are pagans, but pagans are better than apostates. The vast majority of people back home are not Christians even if they call themselves that. There is a small Christian minority here but their faith is very pure. The Christian minority in the West is relatively larger but all of society is set against them much more intensely. The apostate West has been utterly subverted by Satan. When works of Japanese culture offend against God it is generally out of ignorance rather than malice. When I think of back home I picture hordes of morbidly obese genderfluid SJWs covered in tattoos and other body mutilations with rainbow hair sweeping over the land on mobility scooters to protest for gay abortions or whatever. The once-Christian West has fallen so far below and behind pagan countries that I honestly think their nations are in greater peril. I think Pastor Anderson's video is mostly right, but the West is in a worse position overall, especially America, which Satan has seemingly made his bedchamber, despite the number of believers there.

>>520207

The video isn't even in Japanese. I think most Japanese of the stripe who would be open to Christianity will be so offended by the image of the rising sun being corrupted and turning into the dot in a nuclear warning sign that they'll shut off the video. That's like making a video evangelizing Americans with their flag turning into the Twin Towers.

>>525474

>defending the Japs

Child porn was legal there up until very recently. BBC asked an average citizen why that was and she said "it's just part of our culture". They're fucked up to the core.

>>525465

>implying it's fedora

Did you go to school past the 9th grade anon?

>>521259

http://www.critical-theory.com/karl-marx-and-abraham-lincoln-penpals/

fuck the usa. i'm done

>>525481

Those drawings were kept hidden away in porn stores and no one here thinks pedophilia or hentei is in any way normal, thank God. You're basing your opinion of an entire country on a subculture of pariahs. Meanwhile in the West you have pride parades led by convicted pedophiles holding hands with politicians.

>>525517

That's simply false, the BBC released an entire documentary about child sex abuse in Japan called "Stacey Dooley Investigates: Young Sex For Sale in Japan" which completely exposes the degeneracy in plain view.

>>525517

their entire national "religion" is shitty folk lore and buddism lite

they're fucked to the core

>>525521

I've watched that documentary, which is how I knew you were talking about drawings not photographs.

No, pedophilia is not socially acceptable here. Neither is prostitution. No one here talks about it like it's normal or a good thing. No one approves of it. It's kept in the closet. If you act like those things are actually considered normal here you've obviously never been here. I don't think Japanese are perfect but thinking the entire country is child molesting hentei fiends is cartoonish.

There is open prostitution everywhere in the West backed up by plenty of underground human trafficking. Many places even have legal prostitution. I don't think Japan is any worse in that regard, although some western countries are stricter. Places like Germany are worse.

Anyway, you're on a western site with a board for sexualized anime drawings of children, so the problem obviously isn't limited to Japan. The creeps in Japan are as representative of Japan as the creeps in the West are representative of the West.

Oh wait you have pride parades attended by politicians and fly pride flags on your streets with rainbow crosswalks and celebrate an entire month of pride. So I guess the West is more representative of Western creeps.

>>525524

The national religion of the West is liberal atheism.

That's far, far worse than the major Eastern religions.

>>525529

Yes that kind of thing happens here on the daily.

>>525537

I don't deny the rampant decadence of the West. I am not defending the satanic fools who have been running our societies for too long. You, on the other hand, are defending this pagan nation, almost as if they are a good ideal. They are not.

>>525548

A pagan is better than an apostate. A pagan nation is better than an apostate nation.

You can demonize the Japanese all you want, but at the end of the day their society is simply better than yours. It wasn't always that way. Japan is like a time capsule. A few decades ago, any given Western country was superior to the Japan of today, but the West has fallen far, fast, and hard. By turning their backs on Christ, Westerners have lowered themselves lower than any pagan. The next few decades there will be interesting to watch. From afar. Do you really think child rape isn't a Western problem when you have Muslim rape gangs roving your streets?

I'd rather live in an actual Christian country than a pagan or an apostate country, but I doubt I could find work there, or evangelization opportunities.

>>525549

No, Christianity is not your country's religion. Liberal atheism is. Christianity is all but suppressed in the West, and it wouldn't surprise me if outright suppression started soon. Japan's regime is officially Shintoist not atheist. The head of state is the high priest of Shintoism. And I never said a single word about China, now did I?

>>525549

>No, no it doesn't.

I was being sarcastic toward you, you creep.

Wartime atrocities from 70 years ago are completely irrelevant to this discussion. If you want to demonize Japanese people, doesn't that seem like a bit of a reach? I bet you're America. I could spam some nice atrocity pictures for you. In colour.

>>525563

Keep defending Japan, might as well forget the Scripture while you're at it.

>>525566

>Wartime atrocities from 70 years ago are completely irrelevant to this discussion. If you want to demonize Japanese people, doesn't that seem like a bit of a reach? I bet you're America. I could spam some nice atrocity pictures for you. In colour.

Your government still either denies, plays down, or even claims that those atrocities are good things. Don't kid yourself, the Japanese have a complete hatred for the Koreans and the Chinese. You hate them to the bone.

>>525567

>Keep defending Japan, might as well forget the Scripture while you're at it.

I'm defending pagans as much as you're defending apostates.

>>525566

>Your government still either denies, plays down, or even claims that those atrocities are good things.

I'm not Japanese. I forgive all wartime atrocities committed by all nations. Do you? By the by, do you think the atomic bombings were good things?

>Don't kid yourself, the Japanese have a complete hatred for the Koreans and the Chinese. You hate them to the bone.

The only one with hatred in his heart seems to be you. I've explained why you're wrong to hate the Japanese and you've insisted.

>>525571

>I'm defending pagans as much as you're defending apostates.

Cite a single quote from me where I do so. I can cite numerous quotes of you defending Japan.

>I forgive all wartime atrocities committed by all nations.

Your government officials don't. Some of them say they were good things.

>By the by, do you think the atomic bombings were good things?

Um no, that was a freemasonic plot to kill Christians.

>The only one with hatred in his heart seems to be you.

Do you have a single quote to prove it?

>I've explained why you're wrong to hate the Japanese and you've insisted.

I don't hate the Japanese, I just know that they are no better than anyone else without God, like the Scripture says.

>>525569

I'd like nothing more than for Japan to convert to Christianity. That's part of the reason why I'm here.

Your statement about Japan having an officially atheist regime was factually wrong. I corrected you. Japan's regime is officially Shintoist, but their constitution guarantees "freedom of religion." State atheism is in place in other Asian countries, but not Japan. You seem to have been confused.

Buddhism and Shintoism remain much more influential in Japan than Christianity does in the West, despite the decline in belief in Japan. When Westerners apostecized, they turned on Christianity viciously and sought to destroy every last vestige of its influence, creating an inverted antichrist in its place. The Japanese underwent no such overturning. The Eastern idea of religious affiliation is different from the Western, and if you conflate them you'll misunderstand the role of religion in these societies.

>>525578

>Your statement about Japan having an officially atheist regime was factually wrong. I corrected you. Japan's regime is officially Shintoist, but their constitution guarantees "freedom of religion." State atheism is in place in other Asian countries, but not Japan. You seem to have been confused.

That is a nice hallucination but I never said that.

>Buddhism and Shintoism remain much more influential in Japan than Christianity does in the West, despite the decline in belief in Japan. When Westerners apostecized, they turned on Christianity viciously and sought to destroy every last vestige of its influence, creating an inverted antichrist in its place. The Japanese underwent no such overturning. The Eastern idea of religious affiliation is different from the Western, and if you conflate them you'll misunderstand the role of religion in these societies.

Except I don't care about that at all, it doesn't matter if they kept their old religious values, they are worth nothing to God, none is righteous without Him, we cannot do good without Him, He has given us everything and they reject Him.

>Cite a single quote from me where I do so.

You miss my point entirely.

>I can cite numerous quotes of you defending Japan.

Correcting the lies you've spoken does not represent me defending paganism. You can still slander a guilty man.

>Your government officials don't.

I'm a citizen of Canada. Stop being obtuse.

>Some of them say they were good things. Um no, that was a freemasonic plot to kill Christians.

I'll still hold you personally responsible for the justifications for the atomic bombings I've heard spoken by other Americans because you've decided to hold me personally responsible for the justifications for Nanking supposedly spoken by Japanese even though I'm not Japanese. Fair is fair, right?

>Do you have a single quote to prove it?

Your entire motivation for continuing this conversation is your implacable hostility toward the Japanese people despite the evidence I've presented that whatever reasoning you've presented is unjustified, yet still you persist. That's hatred.

>I don't hate the Japanese, I just know that they are no better than anyone else without God, like the Scripture says.

You've demonized them repeatedly.

>>525584

>Correcting the lies you've spoken does not represent me defending paganism. You can still slander a guilty man.

What is one lie I have spoken? Quote one!

>I'm a citizen of Canada. Stop being obtuse.

You're living in Japan and defending them. Everyone knows what I am talking about, I could cite numerous quotes if necessary.

>I'll still hold you personally responsible for the justifications for the atomic bombings I've heard spoken by other Americans because you've decided to hold me personally responsible for the justifications for Nanking supposedly spoken by Japanese even though I'm not Japanese. Fair is fair, right?

I'm not holding you responsible for anything, you are defending Japan and have even admitted that in a past post, I am not attacking you, I am attacking the Japanese government officials who do these things.

>Your entire motivation for continuing this conversation is your implacable hostility toward the Japanese people despite the evidence I've presented that whatever reasoning you've presented is unjustified, yet still you persist. That's hatred.

So basically I pointed out the inconvenient facts that they are no better than anyone else, despite what you claim. I'm not defending this depraved world. But the Japanese aren't any better than the other nations. Read the Scripture.

>You've demonized them repeatedly.

Everything I've said is true. My point is not to say the Japanese are worse than anyone else–my point is to prove that the Japanese are equally as depraved as any other non-Christians, which is what the Bible says.

>>525579

>That is a nice hallucination but I never said that.

>>525549

>Actually it's cultural Christianity. As opposed to China and Japan's literal athiest regimes.

Gaslighting.

It doesn't even matter if you're different posters. I've categorized you as dishonest now and will proceed with that in mind.

>>525589

>>Actually it's cultural Christianity. As opposed to China and Japan's literal athiest regimes.

>Gaslighting.

Oof. I guess that just because someone else who made one post in the thread had an error, it means everything I said is wrong! Wow, really made me think.

>It doesn't even matter if you're different posters.

You heard it here first, folks! He doesn't care if we're two different people, he'll attack me anyway because it's his only tactic.

>I've categorized you as dishonest now and will proceed with that in mind.

Despite the fact that nothing I said in this thread is dishonest.

>>525579

>Except I don't care about that at all, it doesn't matter if they kept their old religious values, they are worth nothing to God, none is righteous without Him, we cannot do good without Him, He has given us everything and they reject Him.

And Japanese society is still better than Western society. I don't care that you don't care. If you don't care about what I said to begin with then why respond? You seem to just want to waste your own time as well as mine.

>>525593

>And Japanese society is still better than Western society.

Something that I don't care about.

>If you don't care about what I said to begin with then why respond?

You're defending a Pagan nation and their Pagan customs. They are not righteous, read your Bible for crying out loud! Stop defending these FOOLS!

>You seem to just want to waste your own time as well as mine.

I don't defend Pagans. That's a true waste of time, and you have announced multiple times you are doing so.

>>525592

>Oof. I guess that just because someone else who made one post in the thread had an error, it means everything I said is wrong! Wow, really made me think.

>You heard it here first, folks! He doesn't care if we're two different people, he'll attack me anyway because it's his only tactic.

You accused me of "hallucinating" a statement you read as well, falsely accusing me of mental illness.

You've thereby proven yourself to be manipulative and dishonest.

When I confronted you with your gaslighting, you offered no apology, but doubled down on ridiculing me.

You're acting in bad faith.

I see no reason to engage with you further. Bye.

>>525598

>You accused me of "hallucinating" a statement you read as well, falsely accusing me of mental illness.

Wow. That's retarded, it was just an expression. Chill.

>You've thereby proven yourself to be manipulative and dishonest.

LOLOLOLOLO. The third party can see what is happening.

>When I confronted you with your gaslighting, you offered no apology, but doubled down on ridiculing me.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

>You're acting in bad faith.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. THIS IS HILARIOUS, YOU HAVE ACCUSED ME OF LYING, DEFENDING WESTERN DEGENERACY, ATTRIBUTING FALSE STATEMENTS TO YOU, AND MULTIPLE OTHER THINGS, NONE OF WHICH YOU SUBSTANTIATED, AND I'M THE ONE IN "BAD FAITH"? LOLOLOLOLO

>>525481

>Big Black Cock reporter berating Japs for drawings of loli when there are literal Paki rape gangs in Britain

>>525639

Japan seems to have become the go-to scapegoat where the self-righteous (of various persuasions, be it liberal or self-reported Christian) can project their own cognitive dissonance over their own societies falling to pieces.

I'm reminded of those "Top 10 Crazy Things You'll ONLY Find in Japan" YouTube videos that talk about panty vending machines and robot wives like those things are common here, socially sanctioned, or emblematic of Japanese culture in general.

If those people want to persist in their ignorance to feel better about the nooses tightening around their own necks, I guess the chartitable thing to do is to let them be. These hypocrites can keep sitting on their fat American behinds stewing in the lies they gleaned from nowhere else but YouTube and whining about how cartoonishly wicked the Japanese are, while I'm over here actually trying to save their souls.

Invincible ignorance indeed.

>>525420

>>as above so below crossed legged bahamut

baphomet, bahamut is a big fucking fish, or the returning neutral element/holy element summon in the final fantasy series.

>>520199

yes, because he knows he'd lose 90% of his internet fanbase if he did say they were evil

>>516665

It's going to happen eventually. He has already criticized everything else you can think of, he might as well move on to video games now.

>>525510

>form letter reply by ambassador

>pen pals

kek

I was thinking something along the lines of:

>Murdering almost anybody you want (Everybody with mods)

>Stealing everything that isn't nailed down

>Dark Brotherhood/Thieves guild quests

>Daedra quest

>Necromancy

>All of that with little to no consequences for the player

It's a big stretch I know, but people have made mountains out of ant hills before.

>>525852

I always found that the nicest part of Skyrim is that you can play it any way you want since you never actually have to do any quests at all.

Make a character and live a good Christian life, maybe as a simple farmer or hunt for pelts to sell at the markets. Obviously you'll still be surrounded by pagans and worshipers of strange gods, but we already do that as Christians in real life.

>>525852

I don't see how that makes it anti-christian, these are all just choices you can make. The game has no inherent anti-christian agenda.

Also

>Talos was both human and a divine

>serves humanity out of love

>years later, a (((certain race))) starts claiming he's not a divine, just a regular man

>eventually they gain power

>conquer much of the world

>violently persecute the followers of the man-god, believing his divinity is punished by death

>>525796

>>525815

What about the AssCreed games? I remember seeing some pics on /v/ about a year and a half ago that came from the AssCreed Wiki were it talk about that all of Jesus miracles were done by the Apple of Eden, The Templars are the main villians of the AssCreed games, Communism is good and (((Karl Marx))) is a good guy that help out the Assassins. Now that is a really good example of vidya being anti-christian.

>>525815

>GTA series

Great example that Steven Anderson can use.

>Maybe some MMO or two like FFXIV and WoW.

He kinda talk about WoW a little bit in his Japan sermon with the help of one of his fellow church members who knows about post 16-bit era of vidya since that was the only era that Steven Anderson went up to before he took Baptism seriously.

Also, Steven Anderson can also use some fairly well known vidya that aren't too mainstream as well i.e. DOA, Bayonetta, NeiR Automata, the Sonic/FNAF/Undertale fanbase. It doesn't have to be all mainsteam but can't be too niche either because that would like he be grasping straws IMHO.

>>528661

(((Assassin's Creed))) is terrible.

>>528661

>NeiR Automata

Also, I saw this on my Steam recommendations, redpill me on it

>>525481

By CP do you mean

>13-year-old sex

>lolicon hentai

Because actual CP was banned decades ago, IIRC.

Also, 38:43 is the fascistball video :^)

>>528693

In literally the opening scene, the main character mentions of how she wants to kill God.

>>530937

must be why so many people i know of have added it to their wishlist

>>515744

Anderson can make hour long videos on Japan, but can't even explain KJV ONlyism in amount of time.

Not that I have anything to worry about, heretics like him make a degeneracy similar to homosexuality; no one can replace him once hes out but just like gays, new fags seem to pop up and do heretic shit all the time.

I really wish Anderson was on our side, he is a well meaning troll; but a heretic that can't even defend the particular translation he uses.

What's more baptist churches are so divided he's getting attacked by other baptists.

>>516665

>farcuck 5

s-See! Every religion has it's extremists! islam isn't bad! even though their extremists are the ones who are actually following their scriptures

>>515744

To be honest Christian nations are full of shameful sin and degeneracy to the point that baptists phantasize about sodom and gomorrah

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones

>>525474

>The Japanese are more tolerant and respectful toward Christianity than Western atheists are, I've found.

I can confirm. Was a surprise, but it's true.

>>530996

also how did this thread ended up as a discussion about video games anyway?

>>525642

>anti-american

Sup.

>>531705

I've actually lived in America, and experienced the statistical fact of the fattest country on earth firsthand. My birthplace, Canada, is a worse country than America overall by metrics besides gluttony, but the Americans trying to fish motes out of Japan's eye in this thread are ridiculous. You're waving Japan off in a slowly sinking ship as your own country jumps into the sea.

>>531722

>a fucking leaf

>>531726

I hope to renounce my Canadian citizenship someday.

>>531701

True this. My personal experience of Japan is that they are far more sexually wholesome that we are in the United States. Frigid, even. Even the worst places in Akihabara are completely tame when compared to virtually every major metropolitan US city.

The Japanese people are highly respectful people. Judging the whole country by the hentai and animuu is like judging the entire United States off of the porn industry and Hollyjew.

>>531738

>My personal experience of Japan is that they are far more sexually wholesome that we are in the United States

This is statistically false

>>530937

RRRREEEEEEEE

>>531739

You been to Japan, friend? Their biggest sexual issue is with masturbation (due to eschewing real physical contact), not the sort of sexual depravity we have here. There is a lot less consensual sex in the missionary position with the lights on for the sole purpose of procreation in Japan, but there is also a lot less cuckoldry, gang-banging, adulterous, whatever-else-you-wanna-throw-into-the-lot in Japan.

Their sins of the mind may be worse, but who can actually say who is more guilty in their fantasies?

>>531722

You're a hypocrite. And stop including blacks and Jews as part of my country.

>>531765

That isn't hypocrisy on my part. Your country actually is fat. Do you see the difference? It would be hypocrisy if America wasn't fat and I lied and called America fat while asking Americans to stop lying about Japan. But your country actually is in fact fat. That's the truth. And the truth about your country doesn't make your lies about Japan true. They're still lies. American obesity is just another reason why you should stop demanding that other people's houses be burned down for being too messy when your own house is falling apart. That's hypocrisy.

>>531776

>That isn't hypocrisy on my part.

When you come in this thread as some kind of morally superior being lecturing me as an American on generalization, expect to be called out on it when you start with your own personal ungrateful anti-american tantrums. Let me tell you from one man to another, you are a worthless POS. And without us your pampered little lifestyle wouldn't exist.

Now with that said you can turn around and do the very thing you wrote entire walls of text whining about, which is defend a country in which you are nothing more than a foreigner, and attacking those who made your luxurious way of life possible by generalizing me with some overweight detroit person of african descent, or a Mexican (which is actually a more obese country) foreigner also living in a country where he doesn't even belong, but expect to be called out on it when you do. You brought this up, not me. You literally wrote walls of text complaining about generalizations and then you made one. Whining about the very problem people like you created while fleeing from your own damn problems into a foreign country, where you mistakenly think you can blend yourself in. You self-centered, self-absorbed emigrants are the cause of all this and I bet the native Japanese side with me on this againt hypocrites like you and the obese hispanics.

>>531838

Lying isn't the same as telling the truth just because it hurts your feelings. Don't have a heart attack.

>>528693

This >>530937 and the game lazily use Christianity symbolism. Not the worst example but it does a lazy job at criticizing Christianity. But the true ending of the game is strangely uplifting.

Also, don't get the game on steam unless you like shitty DRM that destroys your PC.

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/

>>530997

The vidya part of this thread is more or less what games Steven "My wife is a reproducing factory" Anderson would use in a potential sermon in the future where he talk about how vidya is just another media that's anti-christian.

>>521259

Coincidentally, hiroshima and nagasaki were no7 and no9 in terms of japanese population in 1940, so nowhere close to biggest cities.

But they will claim they were strategic etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_cities_in_Japan_by_population_by_decade