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>>145256

> It's been more than two years since Ireland voted by a large majority to legalise same-sex marriage, becoming the first nation to do so in a referendum.

> The issue has now disappeared from the public and political arena in the country but many former Yes and No voters are once again taking an interest in the debate, thanks largely to what's happening Down Under.

> When Ireland’s prime minister, Leo Varadkar, 38, took office in June, he broke several glass ceilings at once: He became the youngest ever, first gay and first nonwhite person to lead the country.

> “While he was (in Canada), the taoiseach decided to attend a gay pride march. I think he should be attending a homeless march. I think he should be attending a balanced budget march so that we would have some government," said Hook.

> After Parliament reconvenes next week, Varadkar and his party will face a legislative year fraught with challenges. Ireland is facing a chronic housing shortage crisis, which has triggered unprecedented homelessness figures. Endemic corruption has been exposed in the country’s police force. This year’s budget remains unbalanced. Various aspects of the public health system are drastically dysfunctional.

Two years on and they've got a gay PM and they're just realizing the system was probably corrupt during the referendum

> 'Significant step for equality'- the world reacts to Leo Varadkar becoming the new Fine Gael leader

> “You burst with pride. It’s fabulous when you see your country become one of the most unlikely leaders in the world for LGBTI rights and politics,” said Sydney-based Mr Brady, who worked closely with Mr Varadkar on the successful 2015 Irish marriage equality campaign.

> “Thirty years ago supporting LGBTI equality was like the electrified third rail of politics. You touch it, you die. (Now if you're not rolling in it you are a bigot)

> “What we see in Ireland, and it’s also true in Australia, is the real cost is when you are against equality. It’s when politicians make that brave leap to become advocates of equality, they get rewarded.”

> Mr Brady said there might be some among the six openly gay sitting members in Canberra taking note of Mr Varadkar’s ambition for the top job.

Unprecedented homelessness a significant step for equality?

> 99 families - including 214 children - became newly homeless in Dublin in July, according to a new report.

> This is an 18-month high and the second largest figure since Focus Ireland started recording the number of newly homeless families in January 2013, the number peaked at 125 in January 2016.

> There's now a record 1,178 families and 2,423 children homeless in the capital.

Not supporting LGBTI really is like the electrified third rail for families in ireland

Even bringing it up because we are currently in the process of having it thrust upon us is causing yet another spike

They probably can't even criticize the government without being labeled homophobe, the new homo of our times, what with a gay pm and all

> “Figures published for July show that there are now 1,178 families accessing emergency accommodation in the Dublin region alone, an increase of 5.6% since June and 18.6% in the last year. Children are now at 2,423, an increase of 6.7% since June and 19.9% in the last year,” he said.

> “However, today’s figures indicate that the ever-rising flow into homelessness means that there is even bigger challenge now to keep up with the demand.”

> Focus Ireland advocacy director Mike Allen said the figures “clearly show the homeless crisis is continuing to deepen”.

> “We had seen a drop in the numbers of families becoming homeless every month at the end of last year and earlier this year but this is no longer the case, and we are back to constantly rising numbers every month,” he said.

> Mr Allen said the country is now in “the middle of the worst homelessness crisis in living memory” with nearly 8,000 people homeless nationwide.

> Republic of Ireland/Population

4.773 million (2016)

approx 1 in 500

> Lack of one-bed homes 'biggest obstacle' to tackling (whole family) homelessness?

Irish Times-24 Sep. 2017

Lack of one-bed homes 'biggest obstacle' to tackling homelessness … Despite a commitment in Rebuilding Ireland to “triple the targets for …

Seriously though ireland

> There is no generally accepted term to describe what Northern Ireland is: province, region, country or something else.[11][12][13] The choice of term can be controversial and can reveal the writer's political preferences.[12] This has been noted as a problem by several writers on Northern Ireland, with no generally recommended solution.[11][12][13]

> Owing in part to the way in which the United Kingdom, and Northern Ireland, came into being, there is no legally defined term to describe what Northern Ireland 'is'.

> Same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland only a matter of time – Irish PM …

https://www.theguardian.com › World › Leo Varadkar

Aug 5, 2017 - The Irish Republic's first gay prime minister has predicted it is only a matter of time before same-sex marriage is legalised in Northern Ireland.

Judge dismisses Northern Ireland same-sex marriage cases - BBC …

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-40954619

Aug 17, 2017 - The High Court has dismissed two cases challenging Northern Ireland's ban on same-sex marriage. Delivering his judgement, a judge said it …

Population - approx 30% of ireland, 1.8 million

> The Irish Republic's first gay prime minister has warned it is only a matter of time before same-sex marriage family evictions are legalised in Northern Ireland.

And so while it's obvious this brady fella doesn't live in the Ireland that he got the vote through, I wonder if he even checked how ireland was doing after two short years before the tireless campaign to get it passed here

Is it really conscionable to be up here saying "Love is Love" and "Happiness is Happiness"

Do we even have a yardstick for tolerance?

Or is it simply the "least tolerant of my views" is intolerant enough to be evicted, no matter how insufferable the other person is

> Eviction is Eviction, it don't care if you have children

>>145215

>ITS THE CURRENT YEAR

stopped watching

as if these babys really need step by step instructions

> What people don’t tell you about progress is the odd, rudderless feeling that occurs in the aftermath. LGBT people shout about marriage equality and the Gender Recognition Act not being a panacea regarding the day-to-day realities of many LGBT people, but it is inevitable that after achieving something, a lull follows.

> Right now, many familiar landmarks of LGBT community in the Republic are disappearing in the rearview mirror. In terms of organisations, the Gay and Lesbian Equality Network, Glen – a policy and strategy NGO founded in 1988 – is no more, and under investigation by the Charity Regulatory Authority.

> One wonders how the recent success of Ireland’s recovery from the financial crisis is related to Sunday’s referendum. The Irish were among the first within the European Union to cope with the aftermath of the crisis. They did that by taking responsibility for the mistakes they made in the past. They boldly and courageously made adjustments. They found consensus and popular support for the very difficult and, at times, extremely tough decisions. This surely paved the way to Sunday’s success. There’s no doubt in my mind that the same powerful desire to look to the future drove the country to get through the difficulties of economic recovery and to leave behind hundreds of years of legacy of exclusion and persecution of gay people.

Most curiously, there is a police crackdown on groups of Homeless people announced on the news just tonight for melbourne.

> love is love, but you best not have three bags of stuff plus bedding

And yes i looked at the celtic tiger

please do explain the current homeless irish family spike

> Victoria Police has promised to crack down on beggars in Melbourne's CBD as the city's council announces an "assertive" new approach to dealing with homelessness.

> Melbourne Lord Mayor Robert Doyle said under the official arrangement, council officers would work with Victoria Police to remove groups of homeless people if they affect public safety or obstruct public spaces.

> The Melbourne City Council will not go ahead with plans to ban homeless people from setting up big campsites, saying the proposed new by-law was very likely to face a court challenge.

> Instead it's working with police, the State Government and social services groups to more pro-actively find accommodation and support for rough sleepers.

> A protocol has been signed today formalising the new system, which the Lord Mayor has described as a more "assertive" approach.

Shit nigger, isn't everyone born that way (Not owning a house?)

They don't even allocate you a tradable bit of land when your born, but they wanna be in charge of allocation

> These neighborhoods are also often found in working-class parts of the city, or in the neglected fringe of a downtown area – communities which may have been upscale historically but became economically depressed and socially disorganized. In these cases, the establishment of a LGBT community has turned some of these areas into more expensive neighborhoods, a process known as gentrification – a phenomenon in which LGBT people often play a pioneer role.[6] This process does not always work out to the benefit of these communities, as they often see property values rise so high that they can no longer afford them as high-rise condominiums are built and bars move out, or the only LGBT establishments that remain are those catering to a more upscale clientele. However, today's manifestations of "queer ghettos" bear little resemblance to those of the 1970s.[2]

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_village

> A change of residence that is forced upon people who lack resources to cope has social costs.[34] Measures protecting these marginal groups from gentrification may reduce those.

> There is also the argument that gentrification reduces the social capital of the area it affects. Communities have strong ties to the history and culture of their neighborhood, and causing its dispersal can have detrimental costs.[15] The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has a webpage discussing adverse effects gentrification has on health, and provides a list of policies that would inhibit gentrification in order to prevent these impacts.[15]

Positive Negative

Higher incentive for property owners to increase/improve housing Displacement through rent/price increases

Reduction in crime Loss of affordable housing

Stabilization of declining areas Commercial/industrial displacement

Increased property values Unsustainable property prices

Increased consumer purchasing power at local businesses Displacement and housing demand pressures on surrounding poor areas

Reduced vacancy rates Community resentment and conflict

Increased local fiscal revenues Homelessness

Encouragement and increased viability of further development Secondary psychological costs of displacement

Reduced strain on local infrastructure and services Increased cost and charges to local services

Increased social mix Loss of social diversity (from socially disparate to rich ghettos)

Rehabilitation of property both with and without state sponsorship Under occupancy and population loss to gentrified areas

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification#Effects

So when we talk about the already booming house prices of sydney and melbourne, we are already talking and seeing gentrification

Isn't it two thirds of the house of reps that are big on investment properties, and lighting a fire under those prices has obvious benefits to those few people in the form of $$$

Investors are targeting the gay villages, the gay villagers would rather cheap houses, forming new gay villages

Expensive house prices for all, if it wasn't bad enough already

The bandaid fix is an empty house tax

Seems like reserved non-gay village areas, ie tolerating the bigots you hate so much and preserving the real diversity, is the real solution

Gentrified world | Cities | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/series/gentrified-world

May 31, 2017 - Sydney's last stand: the residents holding out against gentrification. A government-driven revitalisation project is turning public housing …

'We are building our way to hell': tales of gentrification around the …

https://www.theguardian.com › World › Cities › Gentrification

Oct 5, 2016 - … our readers shared stories of gentrification happening in their cities … are building our way to hell': tales of gentrification around the world.

Gentrification is a global problem. It's time we found a better solution …

https://www.theguardian.com › World › Cities › Gentrification

Sep 29, 2016 - Today we begin a new series looking at the impact of gentrification and rising housing costs all over the world – and the ways some cities are …

> Richard Weeks, a retired teacher and president of the Waterloo Public Housing Action Group, describes it as “one of the most aggressive social cleansing programmes by any government in the southern hemisphere”.

> “What’s happening at Millers Point is government-driven gentrification,” adds Shaun Carter, the NSW President of the Australian Institute of Architects.

> For Demetriou, it’s evidence of how the government has mismanaged these places for years. “Every big city in the world has got at least 20% social housing. And we’re a rich country. Why are we different?”

> “There’s a big stock of social housing in the city, but it’s declining,” says Philip Thalis, a city councillor and former public architect with 30 years’ experience. “The City of Sydney has a target of 7.5% affordable housing, and that target is currently being exceeded.

We've heard the defence "Owning your own home is not a Right", ("modern serf"), along with bicycles and airbnb being to blame

gentrification

ˌdʒɛntrɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/

noun

noun: gentrification; plural noun: gentrifications

the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

"an area undergoing rapid gentrification"

the process of making a person or activity more refined or polite.

"football has undergone gentrification"

Very telling isn't it, but isn't this some sort of cultural incursion?

Isn't politeness supposed to be voluntary?

If holding a gun to peoples heads made them polite, N.K would be making scones with jam and cream for everyone

OCCUPY VOLKSBÜHNE

Anti-gentrification activists took over Berlin’s iconic public theater and turned it into a 24/7 party

3 days ago - The protesters, who have formed an artists' collective called "From dust to glitter", plan to occupy the building in east Berlin for three months .

They plan to convene something the call the “People’s Stage,” which they say will act as a round-the-clock anti-gentrification center or “parliament of the homeless,” with parties, readings, and free performances.

//

#WeLiveHere2017 celebrates the community of Waterloo before a large scale redevelopment changes the area forever, bringing with it swathes of high-density private dwellings and an uncertain future for the thousands of existing residents. By telling the stories of this inner city community, the project empowers residents to participate in a collective statement of presence: a beacon to the place and the people. #WeLiveHere2017 is also a dynamic platform to generate valuable discussion around the importance of public and affordable housing, and the right of every person to a home.

> Shelter NSW says the lack of access to affordable housing in cities has pushed the NSW public housing waiting list to about 60,000, with most waiting 10 years or more to be allocated a property. A study of the Indigenous community of Western Sydney, conducted via the Aboriginal Medical Service of Western Sydney, found that prohibitively high rents and long waiting periods have combined to produce homelessness, insecure housing, severe overcrowding and having to accept accommodation in poorly-maintained premises.

> A large portion of Sydney's Indigenous community now lives in south-west and western Sydney; 31 per cent of the NSW urban Indigenous population lives in Blacktown alone, according to the Bureau of Statistics

> Saggers says the whole Blacktown region, which includes the suburb of Blacktown itself, Lethbridge Park, Ropes Crossing and Tregar to name a few, offers some good potential.

“Its population is set to explode to 409,000 by 2026 – a 46% increase,” he says. “It’s emerging as a desirable location for families, particularly as it’s very affordable and sits in a convenient location close to ever-growing amenities.”

There’s a pipeline of significant investment in health, transport and road infrastructure, he says. Newer units close to amenities or older three-bedroom homes with room to add value represent good buys.

- http://www.smh.com.au/comment/sydneys-indigneous-communities-are-being-forced-out-by-gentrification-20160713-gq4kwm.html

- https://www.eurekareport.com.au/articles/66541/australias-top-20-gentrification-hotspots

Gillian Triggs has said Australia is in the grips of the phenomena of “post truth” which compounds the problem of the overreach of executive power.

Giving the Michael Kirby Oration on Wednesday night at Victoria University, Professor Triggs said the idea of alternative facts which had credibility had created an ‘Alice in Wonderland’ world where words mean what we choose them to.

“This is what is increasingly concerning me particularly in the context of the current debate on marriage equality,” she said.

“The obfuscation of the truth, the failure to deal with the issues, to throw in great debating techniques and straw men and red herrings … are deeply troubling in an issue that should be lead by clear evidence-driven leadership through our politicians and senior members of the community.”

Rising prices push out long-time Vancouver residents

The Globe and Mail-22 Sep. 2017

"System-wide, it's had the effect of social cleansing. So many people I've known and grown up with have had to move from here. It's dramatic.

British union movement debate campaign plans, Brexit

Green Left Weekly-15 Sep. 2017

Conroy Lawrence, a delegate with the public service union UNISON, described the public housing situation as akin to “social cleansing”.

French student union raises alarm over rising costs

Times Higher Education (THE)-31 Aug. 2017

… about rising rental costs for students, arguing that rising prices are resulting in a "social cleansing of working-class students from education".

Social cleansing - It's the developed thing to do

> The Australian Bureau of Statistics will publish a weekly estimate of the running total of same-sex marriage postal surveys sent back, starting next Tuesday.

> The ABS said it would primarily draw upon Australia Post’s assessment of the number of containers of sorted enveloped to come up with its weekly estimate.

> “ABS will then apply some adjustments based on factors like responses received through other channels and an allowance for forms that are damaged, invalid (ie barcodes removed, copied), and invalidated (ie cancelled when new forms are issued),” the bureau said.

Funny, how do you invalidate an anonymized survey..?

ABS will then apply some *adjustment lol

> But others will no doubt do the adjustment (on anonymized forms), especially *if the exercise results in more No surveys than Yes surveys. Even so, the largely statistically illiterate masses will still call it a _ win. For that reason it is imperative that whatever one thinks of the "plebiscite" exercise, it is important for those in favour of _ to make the effort and engage in the survey.

> The possibility of a majority No in votes cast but a Yes result when (properly?) adjusted result is real. It will legitimately give rise to calls of "we was robbed" and give every reason for a future government to ignore the result.

No suprises here, kind of

> It would be a terrible result for Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. He would have blown $120 million to get this issue off the table only to have an (in?)conclusive No vote.

> After Malcolm himself saying that a 50.0001% majority is fine by him

> Dr Dane from The University of Queensland's School of Psychology, Dr Liz Short of Victoria University and Dr Grainne Healy of Ireland surveyed 1,657 LGBTI people and their families.

> "Nearly three quarters of them said the 'No' campaign had a highly detrimental impact on young LGBTI people and the children of LGBTI parents."

> Dr Dane, from Brisbane said many young gay people - who had not come out - reported being horrified at hearing the debate about same sex marriage debated in front of them.

> "They told of having to sit at the dinner table listening to their parents and grandparents sitting around talking about how disgusting it was," Dr Dane told Fairfax Media on Saturday.

So they sounded just like the Yes campaigners?

Isn't being openly gay a bit like emotionally blackmailing your family?

> Sydney Symphony Orchestra Slammed For Tone Deaf Stance On SSM Survey

However, the Sydney Symphony Orchestra drew criticism today for announcing its intention to remain “neutral” on the highly contentious issue.

> Woolworths in damage control over former chief executive Roger Corbett’s anti-same sex marriage stance

Mr Corbett was chief executive of Woolworths from 1999 to 2006. Last year, he refused to confirm or deny rumours of a rift with Woolworths’ current boss Brad Banducci.

The future will be so very oppressive if gays and the rest of them simply can't marry

> Born yesterday

unless your one of those intersex, which i had to look up because it's a pretty vague term

> If the process that causes this fetal tissue to become "male" or "female" is disrupted, ambiguous genitalia can develop. ..

> Intersex people are born with any of several variations in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, or genitals that,

Can't we just let malcolm have his now gay republic of SE australia

Moving to russia/china/iran or indo seems pretty extreme when there's plenty of room for non-gays in WA, NT and QLD. Let them have their unaffordable empty mansions

I bet they're all scratching their heads going "I didn't know i hated techies"

> maklemore causes outrage after slipping a cover of this song into his set

In 20 years pakle crakle can rerelease same love telling how his kid came home crying because he thought he was straight

As long as your not offending the rich white men eh

"Tough luck son, you've been cryin since before pre-K, some might say you were born that way"

Really, this "born whichever way" thing is a bit of a dangerous statement, it makes no excuses for Not Helping people

Don't you think children are born a totally blank slate? Or that people can change?

Are you gonna euthanase your kids at age 12 because you don't like the way they were born?

Take some responsibility, you like what you like but you have some choice in the matter

Driving Rights for Blind People!

> Thousands of demonstrators gathered in downtown Sao Paulo on Friday to protest a court's recent decision to overturn an 18-year ban on conversion therapy meant to "cure" gay people.

> Chants of "it's not a disease" could be heard over songs including Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" as protesters flew rainbow flags and held banners demanding human rights be respected.

> The challenge to the ban — which was instituted in 1999 by Brazil's Federal Council of Psychology — came in a lawsuit this year from Rozangela Justino, a psychologist and evangelical Christian who had her license revoked in 2016 for offering the therapy and referring to homosexuality as a "disease."

> Ruling in her favor last week, Judge Waldemar de Carvalho wrote that people who want help in relation to their sexuality should not be prevented from voluntarily pursuing the therapy.

https://www.advocate.com/hiv-aids/2017/9/27/ 27-reasons-you-should-date-hiv-positive-man-right-now

>>145215

>I'm just joking. It's [current_year] and I'm not a fucking asshole.

Ending White Australia was a mistake.

http://www.hivplusmag.com/treatment/2017/9/27/ three-cups-coffee-day-keeps-hiv-away

http://www.hivplusmag.com/treatment/2017/9/25/ how-anal-cancer-epidemic-gay-and-bi-hiv-positive-men-can-be-prevented

I'm not even making these up

http://www.hivplusmag.com/stigma/2017/9/17/ hiv-infections-are-increasing-among-young-gay-and-bisexual-men

They say it's up to no voters to outline the protections we want, so shall we start with Not allowing gay marriages + bans on gay propaganda

And an anti-slippery-slope / zero precedent type clause would be pretty handy

> They believe a "yes" vote will help improve mental health outcomes across the LGBTIQ community.

And possibly make it worse for other people?

> A new study of nearly 2000 16-to-25-year-olds concludes that 43 per cent of LGBTIQ people in that age group are at high risk, compared to 23 per cent of straight people.

1/10*43 = 4 // 9/10*23 = 20

So a 10% fall on lg suicide risk might save 1 per hundred, vs a 10% increase for otherwise ordinary people puts another 10 per hundred at risk

Do you put 1 in 10 at risk to help 1 in 100 though?

Should the lgx community be excluded from this discussion, since practically any argument seems to induce a spoilt-child like tantrum

Is it something to do with being raised by television?

Did you ever hear of the city of sodom?

> Sodom and Gomorrah (/ˈsɒdəm/; /ɡəˈmɔːrə/[1]) were cities mentioned in the Book of Genesis[2] and throughout the Hebrew Bible,[3] the New Testament and in the deuterocanonical books, as well as in the Quran and the hadith.[4]

> Divine judgment by God was then passed upon Sodom and Gomorrah and two neighboring cities, which were completely consumed by fire and brimstone.

> Satanism?

The Church of Satan has always accepted gays, lesbians and bisexuals since its foundation in 1966.[49] The church supports legalization of same-sex marriages.[49]

Which groups are we empowering here?

Are you all secretly evil australia?

;_;

> Tory Shepherd: Anti-gay marriage groups invoke the devil to back up …

www.adelaidenow.com.au/…antigay…devil…samesex…/937e1576650e5872c0ded39706…

Jun 28, 2016 - Clearly, a same-sex marriage plebiscite will be as ugly and ungainly as the … Warfare Prayer for the Preservation of Marriage in Australia”.

You don't have to be religious to dislike the idea of satanism though

The crows losing is a good omen though

I wonder if they came up with the "Love is love" slogan because it's another fairly questionable statement

You might `love' gambling but that doesn't make it all that good, and ditto for various other things, there's a whole spectrum of things that could be `loved' by a spectrum of people

Is it a strawman if you were deliberately vague?

> TOP SECRET Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

Operations Research Technical Manual TM-SW7905.1

Welcome Aboard

This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called the “Quiet War”, being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought with “silent weapons.”

This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies, and its weaponry.

May 1979 #74-1120

- http://web.archive.org/web/20160418000200/https://usahitman.com/swfqwap/

> Attack the family unit

Control of the education of the young

disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity.

engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by:

unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way of constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media – especially the T.V. and the newspapers.

giving them what they desire – in excess – “junk food for thought” – and depriving them of what they really need.

rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.

These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social automation technology.

The general rule is that there is a profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions.

I'd probably be tempted to advise some sort of ear-protection if your at or watching the NRL tomorrow and thinking of voting No

- https://www.google.com.au/patents/US5159703

related patent US6052336

> A third class of sound includes low frequency vibrations either slightly above or below 20 Hertz; the lower audible limit. Vibrations in this frequency range produce several effects on a person's body.

Resonances of several internal organs lie in this frequency range. It has been shown that exposure to vibrations at an organ resonance cause nausea and a general feeling of malaise. Vibrational amplitudes that are too high will cause physical damage to the organs, whereas vibrations at a constant frequency or starting very low an rising through the range appear to cause a feeling of unease and tend to increase the suggestibility of a crowd.

The effects on a person's mood appear to be caused by hitting frequencies close to the alpha frequency of the brain waves. A phenomenon called "entrainment" occurs when the brain is stimulated at frequencies close to 10 Hz. This means that the brain's natural frequency is pulled close to, and sometime equal to, the stimulating frequency. A normal brain displays a prominent "alpha" pattern (8 to 12 Hz) at a time of relaxed alertness. Tense alertness, such as caused by freeway driving, leads to a "beta" pattern with a frequency of 13 Hz or higher. A relaxed, dreamlike state causes a "theta" pattern of frequencies from 4 to 8 Hz.

do do-do do-do do-do-do =)

Has anyone noticed how websites with No stances seem to be failing a lot lately?

Half the time the google cachedview service fails aswell

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/

http://www.couriermail.com.au

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au

> The Australian revealed last week that the largest telecommunications company had quietly withdrawn its support from a ­national advertising campaign for Australian Marriage Equality because its then chairwoman, Catherine Livingstone, had been persuaded to do so by the Archbishop of Sydney. Telstra was overwhelmed by the strength of the response when chief executive Andy Penn last week said it “has no further plans to figure prominently in the wider public debate”.

> The Australian understands Telstra was inundated by angry customers over its Telstra chat network — usually used to solve technical issues or handle mundane inquiries — became a data­mine indicating the strength of customer resentment.

Are you blocking these articles telstra?

It's a bit farfetched that so many of these pages don't even exist on the google cache, it could only really be the (international?) yes campaigners or google itself

Every page that gets crawled gets cached, and these are googles own news-links

Another dead domain

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/

>>145272

>When Ireland’s prime minister, Leo Varadkar, 38, took office in June, he broke several glass ceilings at once: He became the youngest ever, first gay and first nonwhite person to lead the country.

RIP Eire

>>145215

That fucking ugly chink in the video made my blood boil. How have we allowed this subhuman filth to infest our nation for this long?

>>145993

They're clearly attacking No sites. But fortunately, most of the commies' pet Moslems will vote No.

>Everyone lauding the voter turnout of fag marriage was higher than Brexit

>Still 20% less turnout than the referendum of 1999

Why do some many shitheads have to use other countries as a measuring stick for our own internal dealings? Are they that unaware of our own history?

>Notorious lefty website runs poll and 60% voted yes

>Claiming early victory

Do they really think everyone reads The Guardian?

https://www . theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/24/sixty-per-cent-of-postal-survey-voters-have-said-yes-to-marriage-equality-guardian-essential-poll

http://archive.is/KvWsD

>>150347

>60% voted yes

If it's that close on lefty polls than things seem to be very good seeing as last month it was about 66% Yes

>>145951

Is foreign funding of elections a Crime here in Australia, or will the fuck claim that because it's a serve he can break rules

>>145215

I have a feeling that news outlets are just saying that no is winning in order to make people complacent, so they don't bother to vote no

>>152650

That's what the left does. Whenever they manage to convince themselves that their latest pet cause is guaranteed to succeed, they stop trying and start celebrating, no matter how premature. They're going on about "no" winning so that the virtue-signalling fucks actually bother to fill in the postal vote and send it in. They still won't bother, though, because voting "yes" isn't as important to them as going on social media to tell everyone else to vote "yes".

lol fuck the gays

when the fuck are they releasing the results? where can I find good polls?

holy shit the butthurt if the vote is NO will be delicious

What a lot of people don't understand is that not even a lot of the gay community wanted this $122mil mess and unfortunately since the coalition has gone and fucked themselves over royally due to it we're gonna end up with a Labor govt and SSM passed into law eventually anyway.

All the government achieved with this is wasting money and starting more arguments between proponents and opponents.

>>153308

anarchists dont vote