/aus/ - Australia

"Tough luck son, you've been cryin since before pre-K, some might say you were born that way"

Really, this "born whichever way" thing is a bit of a dangerous statement, it makes no excuses for Not Helping people

Don't you think children are born a totally blank slate? Or that people can change?

Are you gonna euthanase your kids at age 12 because you don't like the way they were born?

Take some responsibility, you like what you like but you have some choice in the matter

Driving Rights for Blind People!

> Thousands of demonstrators gathered in downtown Sao Paulo on Friday to protest a court's recent decision to overturn an 18-year ban on conversion therapy meant to "cure" gay people.

> Chants of "it's not a disease" could be heard over songs including Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" as protesters flew rainbow flags and held banners demanding human rights be respected.

> The challenge to the ban — which was instituted in 1999 by Brazil's Federal Council of Psychology — came in a lawsuit this year from Rozangela Justino, a psychologist and evangelical Christian who had her license revoked in 2016 for offering the therapy and referring to homosexuality as a "disease."

> Ruling in her favor last week, Judge Waldemar de Carvalho wrote that people who want help in relation to their sexuality should not be prevented from voluntarily pursuing the therapy.

https://www.advocate.com/hiv-aids/2017/9/27/ 27-reasons-you-should-date-hiv-positive-man-right-now

>>145215

>I'm just joking. It's [current_year] and I'm not a fucking asshole.

Ending White Australia was a mistake.

http://www.hivplusmag.com/treatment/2017/9/27/ three-cups-coffee-day-keeps-hiv-away

http://www.hivplusmag.com/treatment/2017/9/25/ how-anal-cancer-epidemic-gay-and-bi-hiv-positive-men-can-be-prevented

I'm not even making these up

http://www.hivplusmag.com/stigma/2017/9/17/ hiv-infections-are-increasing-among-young-gay-and-bisexual-men

They say it's up to no voters to outline the protections we want, so shall we start with Not allowing gay marriages + bans on gay propaganda

And an anti-slippery-slope / zero precedent type clause would be pretty handy

> They believe a "yes" vote will help improve mental health outcomes across the LGBTIQ community.

And possibly make it worse for other people?

> A new study of nearly 2000 16-to-25-year-olds concludes that 43 per cent of LGBTIQ people in that age group are at high risk, compared to 23 per cent of straight people.

1/10*43 = 4 // 9/10*23 = 20

So a 10% fall on lg suicide risk might save 1 per hundred, vs a 10% increase for otherwise ordinary people puts another 10 per hundred at risk

Do you put 1 in 10 at risk to help 1 in 100 though?

Should the lgx community be excluded from this discussion, since practically any argument seems to induce a spoilt-child like tantrum

Is it something to do with being raised by television?

Did you ever hear of the city of sodom?

> Sodom and Gomorrah (/ˈsɒdəm/; /ɡəˈmɔːrə/[1]) were cities mentioned in the Book of Genesis[2] and throughout the Hebrew Bible,[3] the New Testament and in the deuterocanonical books, as well as in the Quran and the hadith.[4]

> Divine judgment by God was then passed upon Sodom and Gomorrah and two neighboring cities, which were completely consumed by fire and brimstone.

> Satanism?

The Church of Satan has always accepted gays, lesbians and bisexuals since its foundation in 1966.[49] The church supports legalization of same-sex marriages.[49]

Which groups are we empowering here?

Are you all secretly evil australia?

;_;

> Tory Shepherd: Anti-gay marriage groups invoke the devil to back up …

www.adelaidenow.com.au/…antigay…devil…samesex…/937e1576650e5872c0ded39706…

Jun 28, 2016 - Clearly, a same-sex marriage plebiscite will be as ugly and ungainly as the … Warfare Prayer for the Preservation of Marriage in Australia”.

You don't have to be religious to dislike the idea of satanism though

The crows losing is a good omen though

I wonder if they came up with the "Love is love" slogan because it's another fairly questionable statement

You might `love' gambling but that doesn't make it all that good, and ditto for various other things, there's a whole spectrum of things that could be `loved' by a spectrum of people

Is it a strawman if you were deliberately vague?

> TOP SECRET Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

Operations Research Technical Manual TM-SW7905.1

Welcome Aboard

This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called the “Quiet War”, being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought with “silent weapons.”

This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies, and its weaponry.

May 1979 #74-1120

- http://web.archive.org/web/20160418000200/https://usahitman.com/swfqwap/

> Attack the family unit

Control of the education of the young

disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity.

engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by:

unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way of constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media – especially the T.V. and the newspapers.

giving them what they desire – in excess – “junk food for thought” – and depriving them of what they really need.

rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.

These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social automation technology.

The general rule is that there is a profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions.

I'd probably be tempted to advise some sort of ear-protection if your at or watching the NRL tomorrow and thinking of voting No

- https://www.google.com.au/patents/US5159703

related patent US6052336

> A third class of sound includes low frequency vibrations either slightly above or below 20 Hertz; the lower audible limit. Vibrations in this frequency range produce several effects on a person's body.

Resonances of several internal organs lie in this frequency range. It has been shown that exposure to vibrations at an organ resonance cause nausea and a general feeling of malaise. Vibrational amplitudes that are too high will cause physical damage to the organs, whereas vibrations at a constant frequency or starting very low an rising through the range appear to cause a feeling of unease and tend to increase the suggestibility of a crowd.

The effects on a person's mood appear to be caused by hitting frequencies close to the alpha frequency of the brain waves. A phenomenon called "entrainment" occurs when the brain is stimulated at frequencies close to 10 Hz. This means that the brain's natural frequency is pulled close to, and sometime equal to, the stimulating frequency. A normal brain displays a prominent "alpha" pattern (8 to 12 Hz) at a time of relaxed alertness. Tense alertness, such as caused by freeway driving, leads to a "beta" pattern with a frequency of 13 Hz or higher. A relaxed, dreamlike state causes a "theta" pattern of frequencies from 4 to 8 Hz.

do do-do do-do do-do-do =)

Has anyone noticed how websites with No stances seem to be failing a lot lately?

Half the time the google cachedview service fails aswell

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/

http://www.couriermail.com.au

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au

> The Australian revealed last week that the largest telecommunications company had quietly withdrawn its support from a ­national advertising campaign for Australian Marriage Equality because its then chairwoman, Catherine Livingstone, had been persuaded to do so by the Archbishop of Sydney. Telstra was overwhelmed by the strength of the response when chief executive Andy Penn last week said it “has no further plans to figure prominently in the wider public debate”.

> The Australian understands Telstra was inundated by angry customers over its Telstra chat network — usually used to solve technical issues or handle mundane inquiries — became a data­mine indicating the strength of customer resentment.

Are you blocking these articles telstra?

It's a bit farfetched that so many of these pages don't even exist on the google cache, it could only really be the (international?) yes campaigners or google itself

Every page that gets crawled gets cached, and these are googles own news-links

Another dead domain

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/

>>145272

>When Ireland’s prime minister, Leo Varadkar, 38, took office in June, he broke several glass ceilings at once: He became the youngest ever, first gay and first nonwhite person to lead the country.

RIP Eire

>>145215

That fucking ugly chink in the video made my blood boil. How have we allowed this subhuman filth to infest our nation for this long?

>>145993

They're clearly attacking No sites. But fortunately, most of the commies' pet Moslems will vote No.

>Everyone lauding the voter turnout of fag marriage was higher than Brexit

>Still 20% less turnout than the referendum of 1999

Why do some many shitheads have to use other countries as a measuring stick for our own internal dealings? Are they that unaware of our own history?

>Notorious lefty website runs poll and 60% voted yes

>Claiming early victory

Do they really think everyone reads The Guardian?

https://www . theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/24/sixty-per-cent-of-postal-survey-voters-have-said-yes-to-marriage-equality-guardian-essential-poll

http://archive.is/KvWsD

>>150347

>60% voted yes

If it's that close on lefty polls than things seem to be very good seeing as last month it was about 66% Yes

>>145951

Is foreign funding of elections a Crime here in Australia, or will the fuck claim that because it's a serve he can break rules

>>145215

I have a feeling that news outlets are just saying that no is winning in order to make people complacent, so they don't bother to vote no

>>152650

That's what the left does. Whenever they manage to convince themselves that their latest pet cause is guaranteed to succeed, they stop trying and start celebrating, no matter how premature. They're going on about "no" winning so that the virtue-signalling fucks actually bother to fill in the postal vote and send it in. They still won't bother, though, because voting "yes" isn't as important to them as going on social media to tell everyone else to vote "yes".

lol fuck the gays

when the fuck are they releasing the results? where can I find good polls?

holy shit the butthurt if the vote is NO will be delicious

What a lot of people don't understand is that not even a lot of the gay community wanted this $122mil mess and unfortunately since the coalition has gone and fucked themselves over royally due to it we're gonna end up with a Labor govt and SSM passed into law eventually anyway.

All the government achieved with this is wasting money and starting more arguments between proponents and opponents.

>>153308

anarchists dont vote