No.2918
WHAT IS YOUR POWER LEVEL?
1) A convert to Asatru should drop any Biblical name such as Michael, Adam, Johnathan, as well as (if a woman) feminine derivatives like Michelle
2) A convert to Asatru should specifically adopt an indigenous Germanic name (Henry, William) as opposed to a generally European name (Alexander)
3) A convert to Asatru should specifically adopt the original of a Germanic name (Haimiric instead of Henry, Wilhelm instead of William, Chlodowig instead of Louis, etc.)
4) Meh, names don't really matter
No.2920
>>2918this is stupid, and for one really big reason:
suppose your grandfather was named something like
"michael Adam surname"
and you were named "Michael father's name surname"
dropping Michael would make you luckless. you'd lose grandpa's hamingja
No.2926
>>2921
This. Changing your name is disrespectful to your parents.
Besides that, languages and naming conventions change over time, so naming your children Haimiric because it sounds older is dumb.
No.3086
>>2918I'm lucky, all three of my names are at least Celtic.
Envy my older brother, though…he got the Norse name.
No.3101
>>2920Not everyone is named after an ancestor. I confess I am tempted to change my first name but I would keep the others as my surname is, well, my family name and my middle name is semi-Hamingja material (not an ancestor's name, but someone important's name) whereas my first name was just "Yeah that sounds nice I guess" with no thoughts put to its meaning or origin. I'd change it to a Germanic name, but not one that sounded out of place in today's society. "Hi, I'm Haimiric!". Fuck that, I'll just be Will or something, thanks.
At any rate, what are people's thoughts on Oscar/Oskar? I've heard it's from Old English Os (Aesir) and Gar (Spear), but also that its from Gaelic Os (Deer (yes, not dear)) and Gar (Friend). An Old English name meaning "Spear of the gods" is pretty solid and while an Irish name meaning "Deer friend" is pretty cool in its own way, it's rather a different thing. Which is the true origin of the name?
No.3103
>>3102
An insightful and in no way bizarre comment.
No.3105
>>3104
Y-you too.
Please respond.
No.3394
My name is 100% nordic, feels good to be Icelandic. Translated into English it means "Oath, of the Ingaevones, Victoryspear's son."
http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Main_PageThis is a great page to read up on germanic/nordic names.
No.3395
>>3394I have an irish first name and german last name. Although my reenactment name is Bjorn (also my nickname).
No.3396
Haven't changed my name because the paperwork game ridiculous
No.3459
>>3394That's like Dwarf Fortress tier.
No.3470
Say your name is Polynesian because your parents are retarded tourist "my child is special hawaiin blood :DDD" is it still a disgrace to change it? what about changing it so the meaning is the same, but the origin is germanic? i fucking despise my name and its caused my nothing but trouble people people always made fun of me in school, jobs never call back because they cant pronounce my name and i have to spell it out to every damn person i meet and explain what it means and where its from. my parents chose it for me because they wanted a special snowflake child, not out of any reverence for the name
No.3492
>Given the Irish name Cathan which means Battle (translated to Kane modern day)
>Everyone thinks I was named after the evil bible jew Cain
Well, so long as I know the truth.
No.3510
>>3470>Say your name is Polynesian because your parents are retarded tourist "my child is special hawaiin blood :DDD" is it still a disgrace to change it?I think this could be a legitimate reason specially if you
>"changing it so the meaning is the same, but the origin is germanic" No.3520
>>3510My name is not Polynesian, but Hebrew. My parents didn't really think about the meaning of it at all, but it means "God (the Jewish one) saves". What is a Germanic equivalent of this? "Osburg" would be one but it's a woman's name and has no modern equivalent.
No.3524
>>3510This is definitely what I have been considering, the only problem is that all of the Germanic names I can find that mean the same (roughly) thing as my name are pretty ancient and just as weird as my current name. My name means "bold and adventurous", the best Germanic equivalent I can find is Baldric, which means "bold ruler" and Farren, which means "wanderer".
No.3525
>>3524Oh, and Wendel, which also means "wanderer" but it doesnt fit me that well and I have a friend named Wendel so it would seem odd
No.3526
>Mother wanted to give me a European name, I forget exactly the name.
>My Grandmother goes "I'VE ALWAYS WANTED A GRANDSON NAMED 'JOSHUA'!"
>Mom goes along with this for some reason.
>Tfw I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by changing my name.
>Tfw stuck with a Jew name.
No.3532
>>3524>FarrenSounds okay to me, really - never heard anyone with the name before, but I wouldn't look at someone sideways if they introduced themselves to be as Farren.
>>3526Joshua feels represent, such a bent name. I'm less gutted about the idea of hurting people by changing it, but I don't know 100% if I would. I'd have to have something definite in mind that I had very happily and confidently settled on to change it to.
No.3536
>>3524there's a closer one in meaning:
baldr
No.3537
>>3532My last name starts with an F though so it might seem odd. Its my favorite of all of them
>>3536I like Baldr but naming myself after one of the gods might seem arrogant to other heathens
No.3543
>>3524I like Baldric. but honestly all germanic names sound a bit alien to me, so I might not be a good judge.
Farren also sounds nice.
>>3520what about something that means "follow the gods" or "path of the gods"?
No.3547
>>3537I don't think alliteration is too bad a thing. In fact, wasn't it "a thing" to name your son something beginning with the same letter as your name, resulting in an alliterative Given name+Patronymic name?
>>3543Fair comment - "protects" doesn't have to have a literal parallel. Could pick the name of a specific god rather than something beginning with As/Os, as well, I suppose, given that the name Joshua does itself refer to a specific deity.
No.3548
>>3547something related to your patron god perhaps? just an idea
No.3549
>>3548I guess ideas on this vary, but how does one determine a patron god? Just by feel? I read someone state that to the Anglo-Saxons, star-sign determined one's patron god. I forget how reliable this was and where I read it, will try to re-find it somewhere, but according to that mine would be Woden. My family name, however, is derived from the name of a Roman god (Normans pls go) - would the Germanic parallel of this Roman god be a candidate?
No.3550
>>3549Should have really stated - Roman god is Mars, Germanic parallel to whom is generally considered Tiw.
No.3551
>>3550Thats actually a common misconception, Mars usually refers either to Tiw or to Woden.
No.3552
>>3551That's interesting, what are Mars' Wodenish properties? I know little of Mars despite him being a war-god, more honourable-noble rather than fierce-bloodthirsty like Ares.
No.3553
I have a latin name and wouldn't want to trade it in for it sums up my personality quite good.
Even here in Germany germanic names aren't the general rule of thumb. A guy I work with every year has a granddaughter called Freya and I appreciate that some older names comeback, but nobody would name their child Siegfried or Hermann. These names are just antiquarian and only held by people 50+.
Most abrahamic names are just as well adopted around here as german, greek and latin ones - there isn't a difference anymore between where it comes from, but what it means. (Except for the most bible-shit possible. The cousin of my mother has a Noah and a Jakob (and as of recently a Maria I think) and people roll their eyes at this.)
No.3555
>>3552Primarily the war aspect and connection to spears in a ritual fashion.
No.3556
>>3552Oh and also, the Wolf was connected to Mars
No.3557
Meh
I never really liked my name. It's biblical and even Slavic even though I am German. But I wouldn't change it, maybe because I'm not deep enough into this stuff.
If I ever manage to have children, which I hope I will, they will get proper names though.
No.3561
>>2918>tfw your name was appropriated by the Christians No.3565
>>3549yes I guess it does vary, but from my understanding one's patron is the one who speaks most to him and whose qualities you want to draw to yourself.
Usually several gods are patrons to specific professions, like blacksmiths, warriors, farmers, etc…
It's up to your choice, IMO
>>3550what is the name exactly? there are several names after Mars which are actually the result of Catholic saints with related names (Martin, Martial). although surname etymology is a difficult science
No.3569
Don't disrespect your parents, just be sure to name your own children properly and with dignity.
If you're looking to name them after grandparents who have christian names, you can preserve hamingja by matching their initials to the grandparent's initials, without resorting to using a hebrew name.
No.3570
>>3569I should add, the one exception is if you have the name christian/kristian, or if your last name is permanently defiled by christianity (pope, bishop, christian, church, etc.)
No.4998
>tfw literal Jew name
What would be a Germanic equivalent to Isaiah?
No.9964
>>4998
>be given feather indian first name and jew middle name
>tfw don't have a kinship to give me a new name
>tfw I'll be stuck with feather-jew name
No.9974
If you are concerned about disrespecting your parents, why are you converting to a religion which they imagine will put you into hell? Either that or they will ridicule the faith in their hearts. A convert to Asatru must drop his Christian/bluepilled name for a worthy norsepilled title. Furthermore, he needs to keep all the rites of his ancestors, or at least as many as he can figure out. He must pray to the gods throughout the day, and remember the dead. This includes sacrificing food and drink at the graves of the dead. His whole life must be structured by the religion.
No.9978
>>9974
I tend to agree with other anons that naming yourself wouldn't be right.
At least let your folk assembly grant you a new name (preferably close to your first name's meaning).
No.9993
>>9974
This. Where a lot of christians miss the boat on being "traditional" is they conflate "(grand)parents" with "ancestors".
You seek the honor your ancestors while recognising somewhere along the line there's a divide past which some of them were engaging in a mistake and dishonoring their ancestors by doing so. What divides us from most of the "traditional christians" is that our loyalty is to ultimate tradition and ancestry… the most prominent, longest running and socially successful brand that can be found amongst the most of those who came before. Like modernists they cling to simply the newest tradition, and shriek and cry in its defense should their (last) millennial fad be tugged at. They love their two thousand years, but forget rome existed about that long, those gods at least two thousand years before that, and then the mycene gods at least another thousand before THAT if not also two. In other words, from what we can find the gods that came before christ are at least as old in general form (if not in detail) as the christians claim the entire world is and one can find the beginnings of the archetypes in the types of symbols used in neolithic ukraine/caucasia. In other words, you have gods about 6-10 thousand years old on a "6 thousand year old" earth. :^)
Their claims to tradition and being owed elder respect are then completely laughable. "Think of your last 15-20 ancestors and toss out the 1500-2000 before them in their favour! They're the most recent so they obviously have to be better! It's CURRENT YEAR, A.D.!" cries the adherent to the first form of hipster leftism. One has to picture an american who knows nothing of culture but (((blue jeans))) and (((television))) and nothing of his ancestors beyond his last 3-6 generations saying that, christian tradition being the only one he or she knows. No disrespect to any american heathens, but I'm you know what I mean by "that kind".
No.10006
>>9993
This - Christians say "hurr your ancestors were Christian!" but only a small fraction were ever Christian in the grand scheme of things. Vastly more were Germanic polytheists, and vastly more still practised the traditions which Germanic polytheism organically evolved from.
Anyway, I think that we should aim to have Germanic names, but equally dropping names from your parents is kind of sad. I think the compromise I've settled upon being likely to enact at some point is simply taking extra names, dropping none; going from [first name] [middle name] [surname] to [first name] [three middle names] [surname], following >>9978's suggestion of preferably being named by people close to you rather than yourself, as long as they understand the need for a specific origin for the name. Keeping the closest meaning possible, too, is preferable.
An idea I had regarding shunting a surname forward to be a middle name while taking a new surname is that this is perhaps most appropriately done upon marriage, my idea being that you and your wife together settle on a new identity for your "new family line", as you're likely to be raising your children differently to how you were raised yourself.
No.10020
>>10006
>An idea I had regarding shunting a surname forward to be a middle name while taking a new surname is that this is perhaps most appropriately done upon marriage, my idea being that you and your wife together settle on a new identity for your "new family line", as you're likely to be raising your children differently to how you were raised yourself.
That seems a bit unnecessary, doesn't it? Unless there's some historical account of christian converts changing their names I'm not sure what is particularly semitic about "hubert" or "armstrong" or "andersson" or "diehl" or "porter" or whathaveyou. It would seem names like that are as old as the civilisation regardless of christ. I guess it would have to go on a family by family basis but if your family was known as "bjornsson/bjornsdottr" since the bronze age regardless of intermediary conversions it'd be a real shame to change it.
No.10048
>>10020
That's true, but you're right that it depends on the family name in question. There are names like Johnson which, while Germanic in form (-son), are clearly the result of a surname being "formed" by a Christian after the name John had found popularity in England. There are also names which while themselves are pre-Christian, must, again, have been taken/formed by some ancestor after Christianisation/Romanisation. There are Brits and Frenchmen with Latin-derived surnames who might consider themselves to "rightly" hold a Brythonic-, Anglo-Saxon-, Frankish- or Gallic-derived surname instead as part of their returning to their roots. To me, it echoes the sentiment above in leaving the religion of your more recent ancestors being worth it, as while it may be seen as disrespectful to them, it's honouring the greater part of your ancestry.
No.10069
I have a Germanic first name, my middle name refers to where my ancestors lived, and my last name is a tree. I fucking love my parents