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MEAD IS SOMA Asatruar 03/11/19 (Mon) 21:20:03 No.19087

Mead plays an important role in rituals among European pagans whether Celtic, Asatru, or Slavic. I was reading through The Rig Veda and saw there numerous references to honey in connection with soma. That leads me to suspect soma may have been mead. There was on verse that said something about soma making the heart gentle. When I drink mead I feel my heart open and relaxed.

Mead is honey wine that was prevalent through western Europe prior to grape wine being more popular, both are similar though. The longest lived person in recorded history is Jeanne Calment who lived to 122 and drank a glass of red wine daily. The japanese author Yukio Takizawa in his book Sake health and Longevity states that MODERATE consumption of sake(japanese rice wine) helps people live long lives, whereas people who drink lots of alcohol or people who don't both live less long on average than people who drink a moderate amount.

I suspect the tree of life in the bible is actually the grape vine due to the association of moderate wine consumption with longevity. One of the Frankish kings was found with many golden bee figures in his burial chamber perhaps done so that we would be supplied with mead in the afterlife. Soma is associated with long life, if wine and sake promote long life in moderation then I suspect so would mead.

My experience with drinking wine and beer is that I think the carbonation from beer may contribute to hang over or bad physical effects because wine doesn't give me a hangover, well I don't drink to excess so perhaps that is it. Jeanne Calment is reported to have had one glass of wine a day. Both Norse and Celtic peoples had mead halls.

Jeanne Calment famously said that if she can't do anything about something she doesn't worry about it. In addition to valuing calmness she also valued a sense of humor, they say laughter is the best medicine. I don't know if it's the best but I know it's a medicine.

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Asatruar 03/12/19 (Tue) 00:27:38 No.19088

Honey is also good for you but I don't know how much honey becomes changed during the fermentation process. Honey is interesting in that it is too condensed for bacteria to harvest, so it needs at least one part water before it can be fermented. Mead usually has some other flavors added to it as well, at least from recipes I've seen.

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Asatruar 03/12/19 (Tue) 07:58:12 No.19089

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>>19088

I wonder how mead relates to those Golden "Berlin Hats", it was already found that some of the symbols can be used to predict the best times to acquire honey over the year but that's only by some parts on one hat. I'm sure its an encoding of some kind but I don't know why it was created to be so secretive, there are theories that they were created by druids, and it is a matter of the Druid practice to keep information as secret as possible.

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Asatruar 03/16/19 (Sat) 16:09:02 No.19097

I've read that soma is believed to be a brew made from amanita muscaria. Maybe it's mead infused with amanita? I have a jar with some dried mushrooms and it has a nice potent smell of honey, feels like it makes sense to throw it into mead. I also remember reading something about psilocybe mushrooms being used in beer in Europe before the christian authorities banned it. Maybe it made people think too much for themselves and remember their roots?

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Asatruar 03/16/19 (Sat) 21:40:47 No.19099

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>>19097

That's the same mushroom that some people believe the berserkers ate before battle so it would be an interesting connection there. There was a bark fungus that was used in Europe for starting fires. In one video I watched, a guy boils some in water to make a hot beverage while using the rest to make fire starters.

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Asatruar 03/19/19 (Tue) 11:35:12 No.19112

>>19087

mead=miód

mfw

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Asatruar 03/20/19 (Wed) 22:50:50 No.19126

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>>19099

The berserker myth is probably just that, a myth. Eating psychoactive mushrooms that make you vomit before battle would be a singularly stupid thing to do.

STJ talks about possibly psychoactive mead in this vid, but I disagree with him on ruling out amanita. It seems it's effects are very much subject to the preparation method. There is anecdotal evidence and historical clues that indicate the need for purification by the kidneys of a shaman before the full force of soma is released. So the amanita apparently needs to be ingested and then the real treat is the urine then produced. Sounds wacky and distasteful, but there seems to be a lot supporting it.

Below is an article on amanita muscaria:

https://www.shroomery.org/8664/Overview-of-Amanita-muscaria

>SOMA AND THE RIG VEDAS

>"Like a stag, come here to drink!

>Drink Soma, as much as you like.

>Pissing it out day by day, O generous one,

>You have assumed your most mighty force."

>–VIII 4.10, Rig Veda

>"Soma, storm cloud filled with life,

>Milked with mild and butter,

>Navel of the Path; immortal Concept,

>Which springs to life far from here

>In unison those charged with the task,

>The blessed do honor to Soma.

>In flowing movements swollen men piss

>Soma."

>– IX 74.4, Rig Veda

>"In the belly of India

>Intoxicating Soma is filtered."

>– IX 80.3, Rig Veda

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Asatruar 03/21/19 (Thu) 02:57:04 No.19127

>>19126

I was never one to believe it either, simply because I've never heard of anyone on mushrooms getting superpowers, at least not in a way to slaughter a whole village with precision and efficiency. I always imagined it to be something more like a meditation to charge up the rage.

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Asatruar 03/28/19 (Thu) 04:57:58 No.19144

>>19142

This made me curious enough to look for a backstory.

>To celebrate the 25th anniversary of Super Mario Bros last month, Famitsu recently interviewed Shigeru Miyamoto.

Q: Why mushrooms, Shigeru?

A: Since the game’s set in a magical kingdom, I made the required power-up item a mushroom because you see people in folk tales wandering into forests and eating mushrooms all the time.

So if it wasn't for a landlord that looked like Jumpman, we would never have had the Italian Mario, but instead would probably have a tradition-fantasy character more like Frodo Baggins or something out of the Moomins. Early Mario and Zelda always did have a slight D&D flavor to them.

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Asatruar 05/02/19 (Thu) 14:36:50 No.19246

>>19127

a man once pitched a perfect game while tripping on lsd. psychedelics could be used to slow down time or to enter a frame of mind that allows you to kill mercilessly

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