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Religion Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 11:28:31 No.17569

Hello anons, I'm attempting to formulate an idea, so let me know what you think. I'd appreciate any feedback:

Religion

The benefits of religion are many. Religion is positively correlated with birthrates, social cohesion/ a high trust society, and personal happiness.

A religion should always aim for the truth. Otherwise it is vulnerable to empircal attack and can be rejected by it's adherents. This has happened with Christianity in white nations.

What is worthy of veneration and also "true"?

>one's people (genetics, ancestors)

>nature (the earth, the soil, the sun)

>virtu (strength, honor, courage)

>wisdom

>beauty

And probably some other points I have missed.

All these are objects or ideas which certainly exist and are worthy of veneration. Of these, the one most important is one's people. I do not have an arguement to support this, but I hypothesize that anyone I ask would say the same. The argument can be made that you can't have one's people without nature, the what does nature matter without one's people. The same applies for the other items.

Notice this list contains no dieties. Why should dieties, which cannot be shown to exist, take precedence above one's people? Even if a religion supports the prosperity and continuation of one's people, why would you place the diety first and the people second?

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 11:29:48 No.17570

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 12:32:59 No.17571

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>>17569

>A religion should always aim for the truth. Otherwise it is vulnerable to empircal attack and can be rejected by it's adherents.

If you've accepted the modernist idea that truth can only be reached empirically, that is through the naive senses, then the religious dimension will be blocked for you and you will be wallowing in the mud like marxists and lesbians and liberals.

It's true that religion should attain and speak the truth, but the truth is not limited to the realm of transitory appearances (empiricism), it's prior to and above trees, rocks and rivers, the most important truth (capital T) is unchanging, transcendent and timeless; more similar to the rules of logic and math than the rules of biology or psychology.

>What is worthy of veneration and also "true"?

More importantly what is worthy of worship? Worship the highest truth, the Absolute, the origin and purpose of life, that's what you should seek first. Venerate those who embody that truth and also worship it authentically and purely.

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 12:34:16 No.17572

>>17570

Definitely seek higher thought than what Rosenberg could muster. Evola, even with his flaws, surpasses him.

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 13:39:19 No.17574

>objective metaphysical values exist

>God doesn't

Lol

>why would you place the diety first and the people second?

Maybe because the creator is superior to creation?

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 13:52:41 No.17575

>>17571

>>17574

>He's not ashamed of having a Nigger grandson.

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 14:10:33 No.17577

>>17572

I was actually studying Aristotle right now, not Rosenberg's Myth of the 20th Century. I am familiar with Rosenberg and Darre though.

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 14:13:05 No.17578

>>17571

How should one reach truth other than by empiricism?

Inner contemplation is subjective and nonrepeatable.

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 14:25:56 No.17579

>>17577

>Rosenberg

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 14:26:37 No.17580

>>17575

Who are you quoting?

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 14:27:25 No.17581

>>17580

Obviously you and other Christcucks.

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Asatruar 06/26/18 (Tue) 14:31:13 No.17582

>>17581

I don't remember talking about niggers or grandsons.

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Asatruar 12/30/19 (Mon) 17:47:32 No.19633

>>17578

At one point, even empiricism breaks down and requires an unprovable philosophical foundation, hell, even logic requires an unprovable foundation. It's the mistake atheists make by relying entirely on empiricism and reproducible outcomes. They parrot about science and insist on things being testable, but forget science is a subset of philosophy and as such has unprovable premises.

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Asatruar 12/31/19 (Tue) 02:49:00 No.19635

>>19633

What is a better basis then?

Phenomenology is the most basic understanding of things I can think of.

I also find empiricism to be very practically useful because you can do lots of neat stuff as a result (like us talking online right now), and it emulates the way in which we interact with the world (acting with one frame of consciousness until something comes along and throws everything out of balance, thereupon one must readjust). I'm also not immediately dismissive of the "reality" we observe around us because it is so immediate and unignorable.

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Jeffery 02/18/20 (Tue) 18:29:42 No.19647

Just become a Cosmotheist, literally all that you said is embodied in cosmotheism.

Cosmotheism teaches natural selection, romanticism, and racial eugenics.

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