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Norse astronomy Asatruar 04/08/17 (Sat) 14:52:13 No.14326

Did the Norse know about Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto?

Those planets are considered "modern" discoveries, but it seems to me that the Norse probably knew of their existence, because the World Tree has nine worlds and our solar system has nine planets.

Just to take it a step further, I will attempt to match the nine worlds to the nine planets:

Mercury = Asgard. Mercury is the fastest of the planets, and traditionally associated with Odin.

Venus = Alfheim. Venus is the brightest planet from our perspective, and strongly associated with beauty, making it an ideal candidate for the realm of the Light Elves.

Earth = Midgard, duh

Mars = Muspell, because of its fiery color.

Jupiter = Jotunheim, because it's the largest of the planets.

Saturn = Vanaheim, because idk where else Vanaheim might fit

Uranus = Niflheim, because of its icy blue color.

Neptune = Svartalfheim, perhaps because its deep blue hue speaks of ancient wisdom and fabulous treasure.

Pluto = Helheim, because it's frigid and dark and the most "netherworldly" of the planets.

It's interesting how you can match the worlds almost 1:1 to the planets based on their physical appearance, and they end up in pretty much the same order (with Asgard being the highest and Helheim being the lowest, etc.). The only one that doesn't really seem to fit is Vanaheim.

The Norse cosmology says Midgard is surrounded by a wall separating it from the giants of Jotunheim; the solar system has an asteroid belt that separates Earth from the planets known as "giants." There's a lot of parallels here, but I hope I'm not just overthinking it?

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Bloodaxe!Pn3givrywk 04/08/17 (Sat) 17:08:13 No.14327

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I had the same theory too and it does make sense. Even the creation myth from the Eddas has similarities to the big bang. So Norse/Germanic peoples must have had some knowledge of the cosmos. You can even dig further than that and you get into pic related. Which are hats that have been dated to bronze age Europe (Germany and France) and deal with calculating lunisolar cycles according to some scholars.

They also found some sort of Stonehenge like structure in Germany as well called Goseck circle which was dated 49 bc. This structure much like Stonehenge is theorized to have been a solar observatory.

So we know at least in Bronze Age Germany. they were knowledgeable about Astronomy.

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Asatruar 05/03/17 (Wed) 20:12:28 No.14545

>>14326

you've got your idea of the 9 worlds all wrong.

Germanic people are people who would have developed their mythology in temporal forests.

Midgard = where you're standing

Alfheim = in the boughs of the tree

Asgard = the trunk of the tree - where you cut then aesir from (remember, As can mean also "pole" and our idols are poles, crafted from tree trunks)

Svartalfheim = the dirt at the root of the trees. This is where you find ores to smith with, and in a forest, the ground cover detrius makes the dirt black (svart) and those who dig in it have black hands. those who live in it are wholly black (svart), and it is where we bury the dead, who when they become draugr, turn black (svart).

Muspelheim = the far south, because as you go south from the germanic urheimat, it becomes warmer. Thus, to the far south, it is naught but flames and black eldjotnar (niggers) who do nothing but destroy, as do surtr and his kin.

Vanaheim = finland. because that's where the saami bitches we raped the secrets of seidhr came from. note how seidhr resembles saami shamanic traditions.

Jotunheim = the mountains to the north, because that's where the part of nature that can kill us (jotnar) lives.

Niflheim = the far north…because it's fucking cold up there.

Helheim = wherever you put your dead, be they burned or buried. It is in niflheim, as like the ground, upon or under which your ancestors have gone, is cold – like the far north.

The outer 3 planets cannot be seen without a telescope. you simply have a poor view of the nine worlds.

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Asatruar 05/05/17 (Fri) 19:03:25 No.14553

>>14545

9 worlds = chakras

1st chakra is Muspellheim [Aries] Mars

2nd chakra is Vanaheim [Taurus] Aphrodite

3rd chakra is Asgard [Gemini/Cancer] Hermes/Artemide

4th chakra is Midgard [Leo] Apollo

5th chakra is Alfheim and Svartalfheim [Virgo/Libra] Demeter/Dionysos

6th chakra is Helheim and Jotunheim [scorpio/sagittarius/capricorn]Hades/Zeus/Hephaestos

7th chakra is Niflheim [aquarius/pisces]Hera/Poseidon

Ouranos would be Loki, Neptune Agir, Pluto Hel

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Asatruar 05/12/17 (Fri) 11:16:44 No.14650

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>>14327

The golden hats and general astronomic inclinations of bronze age northern europe are pretty interesting and as that knowledge does not seem to have been retained into the iron age-or only in a dimnished form as we have no further finds that show germanics and celts activily trying to observe the skies in the innovative way that is made possible when you start experimenting with circular observatorys makes you wonder if the bronze age collapse of the mediterran around 1200 and 1150 BC and the century long first "darkage" that followed after even had an impact on the north were the last goldhat was dated to 1000bc.

They found a signifanct battlefield dated to 1200 bc around Berlin too which suprised experts as it indicated great sophistication in the organisation of people:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/slaughter-bridge-uncovering-colossal-bronze-age-battle

Would be interesting to know if the tribalscape the romans encountered in the north was the leftover of a more civilised phase that never really recovered unlike to the mediterran were things got better eventually again.

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