/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

There are already several genetics threads up in the catalog rn

Also ukrainians, poles et al are all eastern germanic. Rodnoverje is from the same norse aryo-germanic canon as the other european pagan religions such as the baltic ones aswell for example

>>12386

The balkans are a clusterfuck mainly due to the forced byzantine christianization, similar to how the benelux states nowadays are also a franco-germanic ethnic clusterfuck due to Charlemagne's forced christianization.

It's safe to say that they're aryo-germanic aswell though

Englishman here, I hope OP doesn't mind me asking about my own genetics here - I didn't think it was right to start another genetics thread when there's one.

This is from ancestryDNA, not 23andme, so the categories are slightly different.

Could someone please explain to me whether I would be more Celtic or Germanic? or whether it's a fairly even split?

I realise it's a simplistic generalisation, but I ask this because as much as i'll continue to admire Asatru, I don't think it's right for me to follow it if most of my heritage is Celtic.

The way this test categorises makes it difficult for me to work out though. 'West Europe' is broad, and the ethnic meaning of 'Great Britain' would change a lot depending on the timeframe.

and.. please ignore the 1% goys

>>12546

also, the coloured part of the bar means the estimated ammount, and the dotted line means potential range (interestingly, Scandinavian is the only category over 0% minimum range).

..here's my trace region.

>>12564

Thank you for clearing that up, I'll continue to follow the Germanic side in that case.

>>12565

I'm not sure what you mean - do you mean myself and immediate family, or my family line?

My family more recently is the west midlands, but before that:

>paternal grandmother's line

My great-great grandfather on this line and the 2 generations before him were all from Oxfordshire. I don't know further back.

>maternal grandfather's line

My great-great grandfather on this and the 2 generations before him were from Yorkshire. I don't know further back.

>maternal grandmother's line

They've lived in the same county in the west-mids since at least the late 17th century, and it's the same county I currently live now.

Unfortunately when it comes to my direct paternal line, I only know the birthplace as far back as my Grandfather, who was born in the West mids like the rest of my more recent family. The only other things I can say to give potential clues to their heritage is that my Grandfather was named Ivor, he had blue eyes and red hair. His father was named Albert.

As for the Y-chromosome haplogroup - how do I find that out?

Also, here's my DNA results when processed through a different test on GEDmatch (I'd recommend OP upload his 23andme data to GEDmatch if he hasn't already because it allows for more testing at no extra cost).

>>12567

>>12566

This is the most detailed test I have, but with more variables comes less reliability.

Sorry for taking over the thread OP, this will be the last I post unless responding to someone else. This is from GEDmatch too OP so I think you should be able to do this with your 23andme data.

>>12567

>>12568

The GEDmatch algorithms are overall quite reliable since they've all been written by experts. IIRC the guy who wrote the bulk of these also did the original algorithm for the FTDNA autosomal test but i cud b wrong

Btw you should run your raw data file through dna.land aswell while you're at it

>>12592

Nicely put, I agree with you and surely wont get pissy about deflating the westeuropean coast area with the upper german area only which might have been a bit far reached to fit the saxon narrative.

> If wights are land-based spirits, it makes sense to adopt some local customs in dealing with land spirits

Well, Im mainly read about central europe so I dont know much about the british isles and even less about their presaxon culture, but its a given that the saxons still had to relie on native peasants which were tributary and of course had own beliefs/deities tied to agriculture and the household which would have needed a lot of effort to root out.

>>12593

>But I'm also interested in learning about native Slavic beliefs

The most basic form of nonchristian belief that can be easily reconstructed (in some cases still recorded for peasants in the early 20th century(!)) found in europe was offering food to representator of your ancestors that was thought to invisibly travel with you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domovoi

Read this and more importantly the foodnotes for further information, if you dont feel silly while doing it you might want to keep a domovoi in your house. Tiny, subtle idol which gets a new bit of milk and salted dough once a year when you commemorate your grandma and her line maybe?

Housegods are actually recorded in almost all cultures of the world, indoeuropean, semitic and asian I am inclined to write a bigger thread about it in the future.

>>12546

I'm American but my ancestors on both side of my family are Anglo-Saxon from England. My last name even reflects this. This is my DNA profile I had done at familytreedna.

I believe your ancestors are the Anglo-Saxons from the Danes as >>12587 said.

>>12601

>>12601

Switch up british isles with western+central yurop and put eastern europe (germanic) in place of western and that would almost look like my results heh

Sorry for not responding earlier, I needed time to process all of this, as you can probably tell I'm new to this. It's overwhelming in a good way.

>>12584

That's good to hear, and thanks, I didn't know about dna.land. Here are the results it gave me.

>>12587

>>12588

>>12589

>>12590

Thank you very much. I haven't tried these out because it's a bit overwhelming and I'm not sure which I should be looking into, but I definitely will try some.

>>12591

Thank you.

I like the idea of patching up with local beliefs. One of my biggest worries is 'scandicuck'ing myself going down the path of Asatru. I take a lot of inspiration from Scandinavia, but I want to be authentic to my homeland.

However, there's also the opposite worry. I don't want to get so obsessive over being authentic that I can't stay fully rooted in anything.

I don't know much about the folklore of my area other than an old 'horn dance' (see pics). I don't think the origins have been pinpointed, but it strikes me as a Celtic rather than Germanic ritual.

>>12601

That's good to know, thank you. My own surname is probably English, but it also could be Irish.

I often wonder about my Grandfather's firstname - Ivor. It's an old Norse name, and it's pretty uncommon. I'm probably just seeing signs that aren't there, but when I know so little about my paternal line it's only natural to try and make the most of the knowledge I have.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/money/science-and-tech/men-in-iceland-have-some-of-the-longest-life-spans-genetic-researchers-say

If anyone here feels like self-classifying their own racial strains/phenotype knock yourself out;

>theapricity.com/snpa/

>.youtube.com/watch?v=p1R2LNM1VZY

>.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?65383-Western-European-phenotypes-subraces

It's such a fucking shame the humanphenotypes.com site is gone for good, would've loved to try out their phenotype mixer but luckily i have already discerned the predominant strains within my own DNA makeup heh

Can anyone classify me?

>>12800

>>12800

23andme has more speculative estimates on your ancestry and shit but it's owned by jews and their shipping outside the US is expensive as heck

AncestryDNA has a really fucking big genealogical database so if you want to confirm a paper trail or expand your family tree rather than just focussing on your racial makeup alone then that one is def the way to go

Also be sure to read this before deciding on which one to buy;

>isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart

>>12810

That place may be pro-white (IIRC the guy who came up with the "westbaltid" label posts there too lel) but unfortunately it's not as active and they don't have a backup of that phenotype mixer saved either heh

>>12711

>>12810

This is very intriguing. It's not much use to me yet as I can't differentiate between them myself yet, but I assume that's something that comes with familiarity. Those Skadi forums look ideal place to lurk for that, thank you.

>>12805

Sorry, I don't know the first thing about classification from appearance beyond the basics level of black/white/asian.

But I'm glad you opened up the opportunity for me to ask myself now - I'm curious how people would classify my appearance, because going by my appearance I was suprised by my dna results (I'm >>12546 ).

>>12844

>>12844

It's not just looking at a face and doing guesswork though, we're talking about solid racial scientifical classification criteria here, similar to how you classify other species/lifeforms in taxonomic variables.

It also involves stuff like cranial measurements and many other physical hands-on examinations.

What i would advise you to do right now is to track down your ancestral lines on paper, narrow down the geographical origin regions of your ancestral blood, then do the autosomal + gedmatch tests mentioned ITT to get your ethnic percentages and then compare your picture to the assorted racial face morphs you see on anthropological online forums such as skadi, theapricity, anthroscape et al. That's what i did and it added up to a very conclusive picture/helped me understand my own racial makeup.

Racial science might have been frozen by the (((victors))) of the second thirty years' war starting from 1945 onwards, but that doesn't make the methods themselves any less valid. Maybe the racial categories could do with a little update, but that's something the actual scholars have to agree upon in scientific discourse through studies and cross-collaboration.

>>12368

Bro Asatru is literally just the most recent term to title a essentially pan-European ethnic religion.

It is not "only reserved for Swedes, Danish and Norwegians. At all. Its literally just facts. Lithuanians, and Estonians almost have the exact same name for Thor. With the same properties.

First off. Poles are literally German rape babies. 1/4 of Poland is Germany. Think about that. So your concepts of race based on modern day maps, is going to mind fuck you. Poles are Germanic, Nordic, and Slavic all in one country. Coming and going for literally millenia.

Asatru is just a Icelandic word for what we as Europeans should embrace as our ethnic identity.

YES there were regional differences. But the spirit of it all was essentially the same.

We can look at modern day Asatru as something that finally unites all of us under our ancient ways. Regional differences arent bad either. Every Kindred has a different way of doing things. Even by a little bit.

You must research this shit man. Because this mentality of "a-am i white enough for Asatru" is VERY real. My fathers last name is pure German, and I even went through this.

I also did 23andme. Told me what I already knew. Was fun tho.

OP here. I ran my data through both GEDMatch and dna.land. All three results together paint a consistent picture of me being a roughly 50/50 West/East Euro split. Not too surprising, I guess; my maternal grandfather's line has been in America for at least 200 years, and there's no telling how many nationalities they could have mixed with in that time. We knew basically nothing about my dad's parents, except we assumed his mom had British in her, which seems to be confirmed by the test results.

>>12898

Thanks bro, I appreciate the post. Not everyone seems to agree with you though. I just found this article today, for example:

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/10/asatru-and-the-political/

where the author makes it very clear that he thinks that only people of Germanic descent can be legitimately called Asatruars. He doesn't address the question of people of mixed European ethnicity though, or how much admixture he would find acceptable.

My thoughts on this are basically: all concrete communities, be they online or irl, should be allowed to set their own standards, and they all deserve respect. If you can get people on board with whatever you're doing, then go for it. If you want to start an Asatru group that's only for Germanics, cool. If you're a Swede from Sweden and you only want to practice Asatru with other pure Swedes and preserve your unique bloodline, cool. There's room for all sorts of different groups.

As much as I personally want to feel included in things, I would never tell a person or group that they had to include someone of a specific ancestry if they didn't want to. I'm in no place to criticize the standards of others because I have standards of my own. If a 30% black said "I wanna be a white nationalist!" or "omg I'm gonna worship Odin now XD", I would very quickly tell them to GTFO. So if I'm also going to exclude people, who am I to criticize others for having standards that are "too rigid"?

I agree with others that there seem to be more similarities between Germanic and Slavic pre-Christian practices than either of them have with the various Southern European religions, and depending on how you look at it, the two groups may be very closely related - Kievan Rus was settled by Scandinavians, one theory holds that the "Slavs" were actually just East Germanic tribes which discarded their old linguistic and ethnic identities in favor of a Slavic one, etc - although even if these arguments have merit, it doesn't erase the ethnic distinction between Germanics and Slavs which is thousands of years old at this point.

Regardless of anything I do with Asatru, I do plan on learning German, even though I haven't been able to demonstrate any recent German ancestry. My longstanding interest in German philosophy made that an inevitability anyway.

Back to addressing what you said >>12898. I certainly agree with what you're saying, and in fact I think it's a very important message. There's a clear cultural and spiritual unity among all European peoples, and in the political context of today's world, it's more important to emphasize that than ever. I came to Asatru through my interest in white nationalism, and the desire to defend our ancestral lands from the third-world invasion they're currently experiencing. White nationalism and white unity are reviled by non-whites because they know what whites would be capable of if they truly worked together, which is why it's important that we not let them divide us.

Anyway, to wrap it all up. Mainly I just love the fact that I've become racially conscious, and I love the fact that I think of myself as a white European before anything else now, rather than that phony hollow identity called "American". Although, most Europeans actually living in Europe would probably think I'm crazy for thinking that way, haha. I guess I'll just have to see where the winds of life take me.

>>12594

>Domovoi

Thanks, this is a cool idea! I'll have to check this out.

Personally i'm always looking for new methods to analyze my own racial data. There's a bunch of volunteer projects and DIY calculators/tools also but these are much less reliable in general and don't provide the same kind of information (both quality and quantity/reliability-wise) which the explicit racial measurement algorithms do.

The nice thing about biocultural aka racial anthropology is that you keep learning new stuff all the time - I've been looking at this stuff since a couple years now and i still run across new phenotypical blends every now and then and keep learning something new.

Pics related are some of my own results, from what i've deduced so far i'm basically a stable blend of most of the northern and northwestern + central germanic aswell as cromagnid/corded ware-type europid racial strains (kelto-norid and borreby-faelid seem to be the predominant elements) with some additional (around 30-40%) west baltid/ostnordid thrown in thanks to my assorted eastern germanic ancestors, whose lines i've just begun to uncover properly now. My results at FTDNA's recently added ancient origins feature also pretty much confirm all this.

There's also a smaller southern component (less than 10%) somewhere in my genes which is possibly (or quite probably) associated with the balkans or some kind of italo-dinarid or northpontid subset possibly acquired somewhere on the southeastern european plains, it does show up across most of the tests so it's definitely there.

>>12923

Have you tried the DNAtribes raw data file analysis yet on your autosomal data? They're pretty decent too, for 40 bucks or so (even less if you chose to provide them with information about your grandparents' ancestry, don't know if they still run that offer though) they cross-compare your autosomal file with hundreds of other phenotypical samples from populations around the world and then compile a PDF report out of it for you to look at. It also has various plots, graphs and shit like that in it.

But the most important part of the whole thing by far is the heat map they give you which pinpoints your racial origins pretty accurately (basically if all the red areas of said heat map are in europe then you're confirmed white). If you have the money you shoul def give it a try. WeGene is also good if you have a 23andme account from what i heard about them so far

>>12951

>>12951

Whoopsy daisy, didn't attach the last graph for some retarded reason

Fucking KIKE board software smdh

>gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

Also i discovered this tool here the other day which is pretty neat aswell. You just put in your K36 results (just leave all the racial variables where you scored 0% blank) and then it gives you the coordinates for longitude and latitude.

Using a reverse geocode tool you can then pinpoint the exact region in europe your genes most likely fit in with.

My result ended up right in the middle of Germania, somewhere in rural lower saxony which does make a great deal of sense all things considered. Pretty damn accurate tool imo

>>12861

That's good advice, thank you.

>>12898

I agree and disagree here. I certainly agree that Asatru isn't just for Nordic countries, and that Poles can follow Asatru because many have Germanic DNA and roots. I also agree that the spirit of all branches of Asatru is essentially the same.

However, where I disagree with you is when you say it's a pan-European religion.

I believe we should view religion as a tree, sharing one root, but with many different branches, and off each branch it has more branches. We should try where we can to follow our closest branch, as that is the most authentic and truthful expression of our spirituality - but where we cannot, such as when important information is missing - then we should be abel to fill in the gaps with the closest relative branch.

So, whilst Europeans share the same root, they should not follow Asatru where there is already knowledge of a closer religion. There is plenty of information on Cultus Deorum for example, so someone who has a clear majority of Roman descent has no justifyable reason to follow Asatru rather than the religion of their people.

With that being said - this is not a concrete rule. Where someone has only a small % DNA difference between two groups, then they should be free to choose their path, especially because DNA tests aren't 100% accurate.

Also, I'm still on the fence about people of a clear-majority Celtic descent. By the rule I laid out earlier - where they have missing information, they should fill in the gaps with their closest relative religious branch. Yet it is my understanding that Celtic religion has so many gaps that they'd be filling in the majority of their knowledge from other sources (please correct me if I'm wrong).

When that happens - does it not make more sense to just follow the closest relative-religion in its entirety?

I'm not sure. I'm curious to hear what others think. In any case, Asatru should not be for all Europeans.

>>12953

Thanks for this. I'm not sure quite what to make of it, as it's in the middle of the sea, but I realise it's not literal, only an average.

One thing I can take from it is that this makes me confident in considering myself broadly 'Germanic', having my genes positioned between mostly Germanic countries (Scotland being the one exception).

It's just a shame it's so central because I can't say which country my genetics are closer to. Of course I realise our national boundaries are a modern phenomena, but it would still be interesting to know.

As expected, It's slightly closer to England, but it's less close than I would have thought. It's a pretty even split between Denmark, Germany and the Netherlands, with Scotland and Belgium being tied for next-closest.

>>12953

Thanks for this suggestion! The calculator put me around Kalsko, Poland.

I found this blog post:

http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/03/05/understanding-patterns-of-inheirtance-where-did-my-dna-come-from-and-why-it-matters/

that explains why there's an inherent physical limitation to how accurate DNA tests can be. (Look at how strongly the results of the four siblings diverge.) So in the absence of further testing on my parents, I think I can safely stick with what I originally knew, that is, my ancestry is about 75% Germanic and 25% Slavic (and undoubtedly there's some Celtic in there too). I was able to verify from some old books my mom kept that both of my grandmother's parents were ethnic Ukrainians, probably from the Galicia region of Austria-Hungary (today the westernmost part of Ukraine).

Undoubtedly, part of the reason I've become so concerned with my ancestry is because I sometimes get paranoid that I don't look fully white… my features are white, blueish-grayish-greenish eyes and light-medium brown hair; baby pictures show me with bright blue eyes and skin pale as anything. But my arms and face tan VERY dark in the summer (shoulders and thighs stay pale though), to the point where kids in school and even some teachers would ask me if I was mixed or what my race was. Eastern Europe has always been a genetic clusterfuck, absolutely crawling with Jews, gypsies, Turks, etc… can't be too careful in trying to verify.

In all my family pictures everyone is very pale, including all my grandparents, so I didn't inherit darker skin from them… I guess it's just because I live in the US south and spend a ton of time outside so I tan darker. I'm a little paranoid that if I went to a WN or Asatru meetup then someone would question my race, but if they do I can just say that I got 100% European from two calculators and 99.9% European from a third, which is better than a lot of other people have done lol.

>>12958

I've never seen anyone claim that Celts couldn't practice Asatru, even highly folkish Asatruars who say it's for Germanics only. There's been such a huge amount of genetic and cultural interchange between Celts and Germanics over the millennia that it hardly makes sense to separate them today. Also Hitler thought the Celts and Germanics shared enough ancestry that he considered Celts to be basically part of the family, for whatever that's worth.

I agree that if someone is of predominantly Greek or Roman descent, then they have their own very well-preserved religions that are native to those regions and they should practice those. With Slavs it gets trickier I guess. Certainly they have some genetic affinities with Germanics, but they're also pretty clearly separable from them, both genetically and culturally. Rodnovery does seem quite close to Asatru in its general structure and tone; certainly the two of them are closer to each other than either of them are to the Greek and Roman religions. I wonder if different practices are appropriate to different groups of Slavs?

I don't know much of anything about the Iberian Peninsula. I'm guessing that they also have their own distinct practices.

>>12953

Once I get my k36 results I'll have to check this out, thanks.

>>12964

I wish I still had my laptop (Thanks flooding) I had found a similar blog post to the one you posted, though It broke down the inheritance of DNA for both Female and Male, something this blog fails to mention.

I’ll break it down as best as I can remember.

Males are generally closer related to their maternal grandmother’s; Your immediate grandmother and your grandfathers mother, this being because you revive your mothers X chromosome, you mother would receive both her X chromosomes(See Females down below) from her mother and because women do not get a Y chromosome her father passes on the one from his mother. Then you would also get majority of your DNA from your father as a male.

Now Females inherit a broader range of DNA because they get two X chromosomes, so you would receive DNA from your maternal grandmother, your maternal grandfathers mother and then your paternal grandmother.

Than anything else inbetween, you would obviously inherit DNA from both sides and both get randoms rolls on who you take more from etc, you’ll never be able to pinpoint who you inherited you dna from 100%without testing each generation, parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc. Sadly for most of us I assume this will never happen considering most of our great-great grandparents and beyond have long past. The blog you posted fails to mention what chart is for what gender of sibling.

Now on this note, as the blog that I had read is simply just that; a blog, I didn’t take much of it to heart but I did feel it has some merit behind it. Why I say this is simply observation from my own family; reference to the picture I posted.

To put it simply I never understood why almost all my aunts on my fathers side had darker hair (Chestnut brown) considering my grandfather had dirty-blond hair and blue eyes; my father having black hair as well. Then the blog made some sense, they inherited their X from my paternal grandmother (Their mom, who has darker hair/dark green eyes) and my paternal grandfathers mother who was welsh (darker hair again), They generally looked more similar to both my grandmother and my grandfathers mother (Short, black/brown hair and green/brown eyes. My father I think just got an odd-roll of the dice and inherited more from his mothers side for hair and eyes.

Then I used this theory for myself, going off this information I should inherited more DNA from my maternal grandmother and my maternal grandfather’s mother; alongside the rest from my father. Just going off looks it made some sense to me. My father past on his Y chromosome to me so I share similarities to him and my grandfather but I when standing next to my maternal grandmother/mom you’d think that I’m 100% related while If i where to stand with my fathers family besides my grandfather you’d think I was adopted or the milk mans kid.

Kind of a ramble, but hopefully it’s somewhat insightful for you anon, I’ll try and find the blog that I had found when I have time. I agree that their are some limitations to accuracy when it comes to testing, unless you’re lucky enough to have 4-5 generations of family still alive and the finances to test them all. Also I I remember you inherit as far back as 7-8 generations for DNA, each generation receives less and less of a chance to inherit traits.

On that note, when it comes to Ancestry/23andme (Only two I’ve done as of yet) It wasn’t to far off from my family tree I thought. Majority of my family is from the British Isles (South-Eastern UK, Norther Ireland, Ireland and wales.) Iceland and the Netherlands. I was glad to see both came up with similar results.

>>13055

Posted wrong pic, here's the updated version.

>all these clusterfuck family trees

wew lads

>>13275

>>13282

>he still believes that humans evolved from apes

>>13284

Indeed apes look similar to us and we're probably related in some way, but where's the evidence that we used to be apes? Some people say the opposite is true, that is, apes used to be humans but they degenerated into what they are now.

I don't know if it's true, but it seems to me that it'd be easier for humans to degenerate into apes than for apes to evolve into humans.

>>13285

I don't know if "insulted" is the right word. I used to really believe in evolution when I was a kid, but over time I've started becoming more sceptical. There seem to be too many weak points in the theory. The more I think about it, the less likely it seems that an ape can naturally become Leonardo da Vinci.

Many people have pointed out that our dating methods are not as reliable as we think they are, and that the earth might be only a few million years old. Richard Milton does a great job at describing the limits of our current dating methods in his book "Shattering the myths of darwinism". He's not a creationist, he's actually a science journalist, and he's really smart.

Another interesting perspective is that of Michael Cremo. He's written a book called Forbidden Archaeology where he lists fossils of human beings that are many millions of years old, contradicting the idea that humans appeared on earth only 200,000 years ago.

It's a very long book but extremely interesting and well researched, I recommend it. As Cremo points out, mainstream science has simply chosen to ignore the findings that go against the official theory, I think he calls it "knowledge filter".

Raw data-based Haplogroup analysis (23andme)

>dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

>>13321

>>13321

Also here are my own results/mtDNA marker projections heh

They basically confirm my predominantly northwestern aryo-germanic ancestry;

http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/r0/hv/h/h2/h2a/h2a2/h2a2a/h2a2a1/

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml

How inbred are you? Check your Runs of Homozygosity (ROH) using your autosomal DNA's raw data file here

>.math.mun.ca/~dapike/FF23utils/roh.php

What is important here is the "Total Mb" value being reported.

The European average is ~30 Mb. Anything above and you're basically slightly inbred.

75% and more means you're a mongrel/drain on the white race that should kys

>>14027

>>14027

Here is my own result btw heh;

Total Mb: 23.25

Slightly below the average, quite lower than i expected but it generally attests to my clean and pure germanic heritage i think heh

>>14033

>>14032

It seems fair to say that the Alfather has blessed all of us with pure and clean genes.

We must make sure to pass them on to our future descendants by procreating with an equally pure aryan germanic wife of similar genetic quality.

>>14190

Chances are your "dad" got cucked. If that's the case don't bring up the tests to him unless you want the entire family to collapse under itself.

>>14190

I haven't done a 23andMe but something similar happened to me.

I went to give blood so I could find out my blood-type. I'd heard that it would be euphoric and it was, the thought of helping strangers didn't do it for me but the bloodlessness did! Anyway I knew my Father was a O and my Mother was a B so I had to be either one.

I was an AB, A Basted.

Turns out my Dad had originally been misdiagnosed with the wrong blood-type and was actually an A, meaning we were compatible and I was still legitimate.

>>14190

Wow, holy shit. Sorry, man.

>>14190

Ah fuck by the Alfather's beard now this is some hardcore shit

There's no shame in having eastern germanic ostnordid ancestry though

>>14217

>Where did your germanic ancestors live 4,500 & 15,000 years ago?

Enter your Eurogenes K36 results into this form and find out!

gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

>>14694

My results heh

>.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?208406-(Unofficial)-oracle-for-Eurogenes-K36-256-reference-populations

So this is by far the most accurate racial oracle algorithm i've come across so far

Even more detailed than 23andme in its sub-regional resolution heh, and you can also optimize/tweak the analysis to be conducted in even greater detail… Takes a lot longer that way tho

I had my DNA processed at 23andme and had some surprising results, I guess. I was expecting a pretty clear cut report since my grandparents are each from a different country.

My father is from Yorkshire, his mother from Liverpool and his father from Kilkenny. I know my ancestry on my grandfather's side is party Scottish as well, because my clan originally came to Ireland as gallowglass in the 12th century from the Scottish highlands. My family name means grandson of Somerled, so I'd guess that I've got a hint of scandinavian blood as well, being that my name is norse-gael royalty. I don't think it's significant, obviously being 1000 years ago… but it's cool to be able to trace my patrilineal heritage to a great ruler. Granted, Somerled has the second most number of descendants after Genghis Khan, reportedly. As for my Iberian/Spanish blood, I think it comes from my great, great, great grandfather marrying a Spanish women… or something along those lines. Black Irish? I dunno. I also dunno how to explain the French/German heritage, but it must come from my grandmother's side. In other genetic calculators, its a much greater portion of my makeup, as is Iberian. So I guess I really wasn't as British as I thought.

As for my mother's side, well, her mother's family has a long history in Naples, Italy and her father was Greek, but died a while back and no one has any real knowledge of his family's history or even where they came from before Ellis Island, lol. Kind of a dead end searching that side of things, but through 23andme, I found I had a huge amount of Balkan/eastern European blood. So, it would seem my Greek great grandmother/father married someone from Macedonia, Bulgaria, or Serbia. Can't really narrow that down much, unfortunately. Some authors suggest modern greeks are all balkan, so that could also be the case.

But doing my composite map that an earlier anon posted a link to, I thought it was pretty hilarious that my pin came up so close to Rome. I have a perfect Roman nose, so it makes sense, haha. Otherwise, I have blue eyes, and pretty light brown hair for anyone interested to know (though I'm as hairy as my mediterranean heritage would suggest). I love this sort of thing, so I had to bite my tongue sending my DNA to jewgle. I just figure, well, if these idiots want my DNA, they only have to go to my dumpster and dig out a cup I drank from, or follow me around my day and wait until I throw trash with my DNA on it out, lol.

>>14715

Make sure to try out the excel sheet-based calculator aswell heh

http://k36.physical-anthropology.info/

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Uc-Zlam2jBUm9INVY3QjFqMVU

Post ur K36 results fellow heathen fuckers

>gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

>>15027

>>15027

>>12368

>>15020

My Ancestry is English and German speaking.

>>15164

Ah yes, a very solid specimen indeed

May the gods grant you the opportunity to spread your genetic material into the fertile womb of a healthy germanic woman

Post your Gencove results fams

(Transfer is free from all major autosomal testing companies)

>>12368

speaking of genetics. Pic related.

Matts wife looks a little """"odd""""" to me. Any one able to shed some light on this? Is this a potential co-opt of the AFA?

Post ur results laddos

>//ww2.kqed.org/quest/2011/08/29/how-neanderthal-are-you/

Pic related's mine btw heh

Sour grapes and foxes: Sperglin Sperglinowitz the mutt shilling against DNA tests

>dailystormer.name/dont-get-a-dna-test/

>Hurr but they're not accurate

Actually they are but of course a mutt denying his own bastard heritage would claim something liek dis

>>16972

I'll play ball.

For this kind of thing, I recommend getting multiple opinions. You can download your raw data from the original site and throw it into a few other sites. DNALand is free and quick, GEDMatch can do a few interesting things if you read up on the different tools. It also helps you pick out common threads to get a more verified answer, and you can cross-check the results with your family's geneology.

One interesting thing to note is that many of these sites will overestimate or even throw in "Scandinavian" percentages for a lot of Europeans. I have two theories: one, that the algorithms just have a lot of matches in their Scandinavian control population or the algorithm itself just can't figure out how to not give people false Scandinavian results; and two, that it may be a result of the Vikings settling of Britain and other regions of Europe. I know that many English people test high for Scandinavian ancestry in the Southern region because of this.

heh

Ah fuck

Finally found dat archive entry again heh

>In 1936 Prof. Runka Kukalainen, from University Suokonmäki in Southern Ostrobothnia, worked on an Anthropological project in the Swiss Canton of Zug. In one of the first interdisziplinary projects of all time he and the Swiss Archaeologist Edamer Eichlkäs were interpreting human remains that recently came to daylight in a local quarty. The stratigraphy of the surrounding soil showed that these remains were as old as 180000 years and belonged to a juvenile Neanderthal male. Other than a few decorative molluscs they found human hair, blonde hair, typical to that of northern Europeans. These findings let the scientists conclude that the hyperborean race remained largely intact, within the genes (DNA) of todays Europeans. These very genes must have been the reason for the increased survivability of the modern white man compared to lesser races.

Eurogenes K15 PCA Plot Admixture Analysis

//gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

>1. Put in K15 data and pull the pixel coordinates below

>2. Download graph

>3. Open in MSpaint and find your pixel coordinates via the corresponding bottom left corner display

>4. Mark your autosomal PCA hotspot result

>5. ???

>6. Profit!

>>18292

This rite here is my result btw

As you can see i am predominantly northwest-central european w/a sizeable pint of southeastern central thrown in aswell heh

Ah nvm i thought this was the genetics thread i made earlier but turns out that one 404'd already by the looks of it heh

>>18316

Post full BGA/results with oracles

>>18328

Here is what I have so far, as well as my K15 and K13 oracles. Now, looking at the mixed population oracles, for K13 especially, I think it's meeting in the middle of my 2 sides, which is why I'm getting the central European results. Like I said, I still have MyHeritage to wait on and the sub-regional K36 results.

>>18329

Here's the image with all the results on it, now that they're in.

>>18316

>>18329

Our results >>18294 are pretty similar overall heh

The original Urheimat of the ancient celts has been proven to lie within the greater danube valley area so maybe it has something to do with that

>>18342

Yeah thanks m800, been somewhat of a BGA visualization afficionado for some time now. There's also this one russian researcher who does these kind of custom maps with his own proprietary software but as of yet i haven't been able to find out what it's actually called heh

>>18343

Here's a rough job of mine in the way you did yours

Nu Eurogenes K47 algorithm fuckers

These are my newest Eurogenes K47 ethnic BGA results, i manually arranged them into the three overall clusters which all the other BGA tests put me in aswell and they closely correspond to previous results aswell. Pretty accurate overall heh, i get 97% european combining all the clusters which is exactly the amount which FTDNA et al gave me aswell. The rest is basically just untraceable noise and shit

They used 47 phenotypical reference clusters from across the world to compare my DNA sample against, and as you can very clearly see from the end result i am saxo-danube germanic with just a dash of paleo-med as a result of ancient proto-PIE migrations from the atlanto-med area. Also the residues from the caucasus are very likely a result of ancient aryan migrations aswell heh

Attached are also my allelic traits according to YourDNAportal which hosts the K47 analysis. The whole thing still feels like it needs to be fleshed out more, a lot of times you get the "SNP Missing" message aswell. For some reason their SNP sample database is extremely limited still and very tiny compared to the Promethease one.

The prediction is also off in my case since i have brown hair and dark blue eyes heh