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 No.11282

I have a question to the folk /asatru/

I have ancestry that was, only recently, mixed. My grandmothers parents migrated here from Norway in 1910, my grandmother then married a man of similar descent (though Mostly Swedish).

My mother had me with a man of mixed heritage (A super mix of American Indian, African American and French Canadian) and gave me a darker skin tone.

Now that you know my genetic code my question is this:

As I do indeed have roots in European tribes (specifically Scandinavian tribes) may I not answer the call to my (Nordic)ancestors gods?

If you answer "no" due to my mixed heritage: what right do I have to worship to any god? Are those of mixed background doomed to be eternally godless?

 No.11284

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There's nothing "super" at all about having nigger blood pal

Yeah your parents fucked up by excessively racemixing and thus making it incredibly difficult for you to find your place in the world (both biologically and literally) but there's also a concrete reason you were born into this life, your soul has chosen you as a vessel because it is trying to grow by fullfilling the task of leading a decent life despite basically being a mongrel

My only sound advice to you would be to chin up and accept the fact that you are not really white and don't try to shoehorn the definition, it inevitably leads to living in denial. Just get yourself a woman with a similar background, arabs and iranids for example are quite racemixed from all over too and their zoroastrian/pre-mohammedan traditions are pretty similar to european paganism in some ways


 No.11285

And for fuck's sake do not join any asatru group, worship the norse gods in private if you really feel the need you have to (it won't make you any whiter though and it's more than questionable they would answer the call of a non-white, hope you know that).

We already have enough revisionist anti-white egalitardian SJW wiccan LARPers forcing non-whites on top of folkish european native spiritual traditions to defame and debase it as is right now


 No.11289

I have a similar question. My heritage is entirely from England and Germany following my father's line, and my mother's mother's line. However, my mother's father was 100% Amerindian.

Does this 1/4 make me sufficiently non-white?

Appearance wise I am white. Sure, I tan easier than most but not to the extent of, say, an Italian even.

Should I off myself? Or should I have many children with an entirely white woman and raise them in the ways of my father's fathers?


 No.11291

>>11282

>what right do I have to worship to any god?

That's kind of it, isn't it? Your parents really screwed you over. I'm sorry. I hear the King of the Jews is taking applications, though :^)

>>11289

You're not as fucked as OP. Native Americans are at least human, and their native spirituality is quite interesting, depending on the tribe. The gods might actually listen to you if you become great and marry back into Europeans.


 No.11292

>>11291

I am working on becoming great. Daily trips to the gym, saving money so that I can buy land and build a self-sufficient homestead, weekly range trips focused on rapid target acquisition as well as long range precision.

My true goal is to ensure that my children are able to live as my European ancestors were


 No.11293

>>11289

OP here. I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem accepting you're choice since you are not dark. The words "Ancestry" "Heritage" and "Roots" mean everything to them until they see you are anything darker than stark white. I tried to become Asatru to honor the majority of my bloodline (Scandinavian descent) and for my love of the gods of my ancestors… But apparently majority doesn't mean shit if your dark


 No.11294

>>11293

A difference between us can also be found in the generational difference. Your mix is from your father while mine is from a grandfather. Not only does this impact the dilution of the non-European blood it also means that i was not directly raised with those influences.


 No.11295

>>11294

OP here

First off: My father wasn't full nigger. The nigger in his line came from his great grandfather, who married a white woman and had my fathers grandfather making him half nigger. His 1/4 nigger daughter then married an Amerindian/French Canadian who then had my father (making my father 1/8th nigger). He then had me with my mother (Who's sole descent was Germanic) making me a 1/16th nigger that is barely as dark as an Amerindian… Also: I was not raised by my biological parents. I was adopted by my mothers aunt (My great aunt) and her husband… I don't know why I'm explaining this… I say "dark" and nothing else matters…


 No.11301

That's disgusting.

Your only hope is celibacy - failing that, off yourself.


 No.11305

>>11282

>I have ancestry that was, only recently, mixed.

stopped reading here. use one of the other containment threads.


 No.11329

You can pray to whatever gods you want. Whether they'll give a shit is a different question.


 No.11332

>>11329

Pretty much this. It's not really up to us. Perhaps the gods will make an exception for a particularly honorable mud. Perhaps not.


 No.11335

LOL

get out

idk maybe christ or muhammed would accept you, I would feel bad sending you to /christ/ to shit up their boards however

do as ye will but remember, when shit hits the fan and the PRWDS break down your door they wont take kindly to niggers and halfbreeds wearing our sacred symbols, if youre wise you would abandon them now


 No.11410

>>11282

Most of our genetics are recessive (blue/green eyes, blonde hair, ect.) by being mixed you have only become a carrier for these genes, but your phenotype is visibly non-European, even if you are half. Your parent's decided for you that you were to be alone in this world.

>>11291

>marry back into Europeans

Of course I can't stop you, but this will only fuck us up more. We already have a crisis and you taking one of our women will only cause your children the same distress you feel. As other anons have said, you should find other mutts like yourself.


 No.11412

>>11410

I've known 1/4 natives. They look almost entirely white. With a 1/8th, it would be undetectable.

It's not an ideal situation, but to treat that anon the same as a mulatto is too rash, in my view.


 No.11413

>>11412

What you say may be true for most.

But Negro or Jew blood is the exception.

No compromise.


 No.11462

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1/4 native here

Pic of me and wife

Do I pass?


 No.11463

>>11282

Your mother is degenerate filth and would've been killed or at least exiled in any decent society, bro.


 No.11539

I advise all of you to read about germania inferior, or in other words the roman colony of west germany in the rhineland.

Espeacially the cities they build there a century before christ are interesting, such as Cologne, Trier and Worms.

Romans build cities were they stationed their soldiers which could came from all parts of the empire, the cities filled themselves with native germanic and celtic tribes who coexisted with the romans.

Some of these tribes, like the Ubiers who populated cologne which the romans build but needed citizens for, were loathed by the other tribes in the nonsubjugated germania magna who wanted nothing to do with the conquerers.

what happened concerning religion was the following:

Romans had their temples for their gods of course, but the local ones got worshipped as well as they were the patrons of the natives.

Roman masons made temples for their requierements leading to an interesting mixture of the roman, germanic and celtic pantheon that got worshipped there.

The germanic wargodess Vagdavercustis was espeacially favoured by soldiers.

The (probably) celtic godess trias, the matrons, were connected to the families living in the cities and villages and were prayed to by romans and germanics alike.

Later on, even more exotic cults were brought to cologne by the soldiers of other parts of the empire, the persian Mithras and the egyptian Isis among them.

In the end, of course christians.

Without doubt, mixing and mingling happened in those cities and it seems so as if the people did not gave a fuck about it.

Curiously, it were the native gods though which lasted the longest against christianisation:

http://www.anistor.gr/english/enback/a1_2007.pdf

which might be an indicator that the matronas were more ethnically based then the other gods who were more universal.

What we can deduce from this is, that some gods were not connected to ethnicity at all and more cosmopolitican, while others had indeed a designated tribe which they were connected too. The saxons had an own patron god for their ethnic group among other more universal ones as far as I know and some people might say that gods who are just called on by different names or seem rather fluid in their substance as "paneuropean" gods can be called on by everyone regardless of his ethnicity but with his local tradition and name as a placeholder that is bound to heritage.

In fact, there are linguists who belief they can even trace some hindugods to central asia and the european ones. Do your research and try to find the most plausible, historic and nonbiased-thus non-esoterically tainted sources.

OP, your dominant line seems to be the nordic one, as the other heritages are-as you say-ultra mixed and thus hard to pin down. You life in a western society (USA?) which is the latest "evolutionary" end of indoeuropean culture so you could try the cosmopolitician hellenism (which has a lot of sources which is good) and throw in a norse god of your choice who was mentioned by the romans as relative to one of their own whose name you then replace with the nordic one, which seems like a compromise that neither seems like norsemen larp, nor as disassociation from the consistent scandinavian line which you feel close too.


 No.11540

>>11539

An incredibly reasonable response. Very interesting as well.


 No.11546

>>11539

>In fact, there are linguists who belief they can even trace some hindugods to central asia and the european ones.

is this fucking newfag serious….do you actually not know who the aryans were or are you wording it badly?

You spent a whole post talking about ethnic gods, to prove that gods dont have ethnicity

So why did certain tribes take the names of gods as their tribal names? like the saxons to saxneat, the goths to gauthaz, the vandali to aurvandal? why do you think that was?

and most importantly, why does roman-german admixture prove anything? both were of european and aryan blood, and both recognized many cultural similarities between their two people long ago. Why does this justify niggerloving? theres a world of difference between two aryans from different tribes or groups coming together, and an aryan and a subhuman ape coming together.

christ you come off like some wiccan

>throw in a norse god of your choice

fuck you and fuck off, my ancestral gods arent some niggers soup locker. this board has really gone to shit


 No.11569

>>11463

We're not living in a decent society.

It genuinely warms my heart to hear that of others.


 No.14157

The final destination of mixed race people is hel. They will simply die, live rootlessly in eternal darkness due to the fact they have no home even amongst men. Sorry, OP. I know it's not the answer you want, but it's the unfortunate truth. You will have to live godless and die and remain dead. This is one of the reasons why people shouldn't race mix, because the parents responsible will be punished eternally for condemning a person to death and darkness, and because the progeny will ultimately reside in darkness.

What can you do? Remain celebate and have no children and perhaps the gods might have mercy. That's your only hope.


 No.14159

>>14157

>le hel is hell meme

You're great grandmother is likely in hel.

You want her to share the cold paradise with mutts?

The answer is the bog, forever and ever.

Unless heimdallr gives him a second chance, but pretty sure that's just for when your soul is impure, not your mind/dna.


 No.14160

>>14159

I assume you think my great grandmother is in hel because she wasn't a pagan… She probably wasn't a pagan. But you have just said heimdall gives those with impure minds a second chance, but those with impure DNA go to hel. My grand mother was of pure European, northern English blood and would have certainly been given that second chance. For she did not know any better. I will be reunited with all my ancestors in Asgard, as all of us will be. The only exception are those Christians who consciously stood against and persecuted pagans, or advanced the Christian doctrine without ignorance. They will be missing from the ancestors, unless perhaps your good honor and conduct in life makes the gods think "This man has led an exemplary life and acknowledged the gods, his parents brought up a good child and he has returned his family from being lost within the labyrinth of Christendom and modernity. He has managed to find his way home to tradition." In this the gods may offer your parent, who may have been a missionary or devout christian, a second chance due to your redeeming behaviour in life.


 No.14166

>>11546

A thousand times this


 No.14167

>>14160

>le you go to hel™ if yur not pagan

>le Heimdall is the forgiver and salvation :^)

It sounds to me like you're already a Christian.


 No.14179

>>14160

No, I think she is in hel because I assume she died of old age/illness you christtruar.

And unless she had hope to become white of mind heimdallr wouldn't have let her be reborn.

Hel isn't punishment, it's just one version of afterlife.


 No.14181

>>14160

>those with impure DNA go to hel

No I said the bog.. nothing happens but death.

Vikernes refers to sons of Karl getting the chance to become sons of Jarl.

Thralls and their modern subspecies are excluded. They get nothing, they lose!

:^)


 No.14185

>>14157

>They will simply die, live rootlessly in eternal darkness due to the fact they have no home even amongst men.

This. No emotional whining will change that.




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