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 No.10003

>mfw people deny that the gods are real

Does this piss anyone else off? Of course the gods are "literally" real. Our ancestors did not perform their burials as some figurative "symbolical" gesture. They considered the gods as real beings, as real as you or I, and as a living presence. If you don't literally believe in the gods you aren't a heathen. You're still a cultural Christian, though even worse, because instead of giving our ancestors the respect of outright preaching against their "false gods", you try to pervert & trivialize their faith. Odin is real. Freya is real. Thor is real. They are literally existing entities, and have always been seen as such.

 No.10004

>>10003

>You're still a cultural Christian

I think that hits home the most, but I think we should clarify on what we mean by real.

We shouldn't be hasty to say that Thor is a man with a red beard riding around in a chariot pulled by two goats named Teeth-Gnasher and Teeth-Grinder.

But, just like Christians don't believe Yahweh is literally an old, bearded man in the sky, we shouldn't be held to the same ultra-literal standard.

Doesn't mean the Aesir aren't real, it's attributes given them to distinguish them and accentuate their governance.

Much like Yahweh was depicted as violent, since he's a god of war, after all.

Also, you seem to be a good poster.

I'll have to keep an eye out for you, Floki.


 No.10010

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>>10003

A bit funny how even the most diehard christian betrays their liberal mind-roots and will say things like "So if Thor is real, like what, does he just float in the sky? LOL! Where is the scientific measurements of the Thor particle idiot!? xD *tips mitre*".

Now we can debate from now until one of the gods sets down in front of us and starts talking aloud as to whether the gods are (pseudo-)physical-humanoid beings or not. But that's by no means a debate limited to us and ranges from christianity to shinto, to hinduism, to…

Even more important is what you say about the supreme disrespect of being culturally semitic, but I would argue that it's just as dangerous to cast out everything the semites have touched a la "Against the Neo-Pagans" by Evola.

We obviously reject his final conclusion of the catholic church being the ultimate bulwark of tradition that all traditionalists should get over themselves and join, but I would urge everybody to read it all the same as the rest of the points are excellent.

Until we can set up a "village" style community, with a chieftan, thingmen and a group of gothi every one of us has to personally walk a tightrope of balance between being born in one society and needing to reject most of it while retaining the parts of it that were left genuine and to pick up practices and mindsets they've never seen in person. This is a lot of why there isn't more growth in our movement I would say, nobody can like in olden days they could, just show up to society and be the guy who tends the bees and makes the mead and raises his family and goes to the temple when he has questions. Needing to be a scholar-king-priest-warrior-artist society-of-one is very daunting and it is those of us who can rise up to that must tame this wild frontier so that the average have a place they can exist within it.


 No.10013

>>10010

>Until we can set up a "village" style community, with a chieftan, thingmen and a group of gothi

Even a lawspeaker?


 No.10021

>>10013

Sure, why not. Do you have enough LP for that? I'll help you farm the mats for the village idol if you do.


 No.10025

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Modern man does not possess the same readily available psychology as his ancestors.

"In sleep and in dreams we pass through the whole thought of earlier humanity… What I mean is this: as man now reasons in dreams, so humanity also reasoned for many thousands of years when awake; the first cause which occurred to the mind as an explanation of anything that required explanation was sufficient an passed for truth… This atavistic element in man's nature still manifests itself in our dreams, for it is the foundation upon which the higher reason has developed and still develops in every individual. Dreams carry us back to remote conditions of human culture and give us a ready means of understanding them better. Dream thinking comes so easily to us now because this form of fantastic and facile explanation in terms of the first random idea has been drilled into us for immense periods of time. To that extent dreaming is a recreation for the brain, which by day has to satisfy the stern demands of thought imposed by a higher culture."

~ Nietzsche - Human, All-Too Human

>>10010

Keep in mind that's only the fundamentalist, whose mind has been tainted by concrete and tangible categories. Up to three hundred years ago, a Christian priest, performing the sacrament of the Eucharist, as an act of alchemy and theurgy, was believed by a majority to manifest the literal body and blood of Christ.

Medieval Europe retained the archetypal structure similar to the ancient myths in things like the Rota Fortunae and the patronage of saints (a vast majority of whom were European) in respect to individual potential.


 No.10027

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>>10003

Couldn't agree more with you Floki.

Sage because I'm not contributing.


 No.10031

>>10021

>LP

I'm not sure what that is, but I presume it's akin to experience?

If so, I'm woefully unprepared. But I'd love the idea of being a lawspeaker at some point.


 No.10032

>>10031

That was an ebin reference to the mmorpg sandbox game set in ancient scandinavia called "Haven and Hearth" where one of the most expensive skills in "learning points" was lawspeaking which let you form villages. I always assumed most people here had played it.

But yes, we'd need an elder lawspeaker. We'd have to write fresh many of the laws for him to speak, though…


 No.10033

>>10032

>That was an ebin reference to the mmorpg sandbox game set in ancient scandinavia called "Haven and Hearth"

Ah, I need to get up to date on my ebin meems.

>But yes, we'd need an elder lawspeaker. We'd have to write fresh many of the laws for him to speak, though…

All the more reason to be serious about the project.

Personally, I would sooner have the village itself in Europe.

America is nice, but it isn't the land of our ancestors.




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