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Languages Anonymous 11/07/15 (Sat) 20:00:48 No.152

Has anyone here really studied and learned Tengwar or Kazad?

I know that are some websites devoted to it and some shit like that, but for the more normal people, does anyone really went that deep?

I remember being able to write my name and some small phrases, never truly memorized the whole alphabet.

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Anonymous 11/07/15 (Sat) 20:12:47 No.154

Kazad runes are Cirth basically. Angerthas Daeron, which was the runic system of Doriath before the Noldor brought over Tengwar, was adopted by the dwarves and became Angerthas Moria and Angerthas Erebor.

I can write a few things here and there. The best way to learn is to read books on the subject

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_studies#Constructed_languages

Don't bother much with internet stuff. They are shit at sourcing their material so you never know if they're sourcing original Tolkien stuff or the neo languages made for the movies (which are none the less interesting to learn about, it's just a distinction is important)

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Anonymous 11/07/15 (Sat) 22:33:34 No.166

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>>152

I don't know about learning whole languages but I do enjoy learning the anglo saxon, finnish, etc… roots of the words. This series of lectures on the Silmarillion is also by someone who can speak old english so it's pretty interesting. For example Angband, 'Ang' means Iron and 'band' means bound.

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Anonymous 11/08/15 (Sun) 03:45:47 No.174

Nice, don't have the time to go on but I love fictional (and real) languages.

True that Tolkien build the languages before the actual scenario?

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Anonymous 11/08/15 (Sun) 04:12:11 No.175

>>174

Yes. He build Elvish before anything else.

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Anonymous 11/10/15 (Tue) 20:50:25 No.183

>>152

I know a fair bit of morghashnûm, the Black Speech of Mordor. It's not an "official" language, however, Tolkien didn't develop it beyond the poem on the ring and a few odd words because he didn't like it since it sounded ugly to him (which was kind of the point I guess).

However, since then, fans have decrypted the grammar using the poem and have built a language around it. The Grat u Murdur, a community of German orc LARPers is using it for spells and communication. Here's an example from a group called the Maubûr Takhbork'karn:

Shapog shakbûrz-ûr!

Mazauk najor-ûr!

Fitgnau murdûr-ûr!

Tug grish undûrz ushkat Takhbork'karn!

Which translates to:

Revenge for the dark lord!

War on the human scum!

Victory for Mordor!

Only fresh blood feeds the red spider!

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Anonymous 11/10/15 (Tue) 21:14:25 No.184

>>183

I'm pretty sure black speech was amongst the languages Sola worked for in the production of LOTR and The Hobbit mobies.

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Anonymous 11/10/15 (Tue) 21:15:09 No.185

>>184

Salo*

Fucking weird ass names.

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Anonymous 11/10/15 (Tue) 21:47:36 No.186

>>184

No.

I've watched the first two Hobbit movies. I have no fucking idea what the orcs in that movie spoke, but it sure as fuck wasn't morghashnûm.

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Anonymous 11/10/15 (Tue) 21:51:13 No.187

>>186

>Melkian, named after the rebellious Melkor or Morgoth, is the origin in the First Age of the many tongues used by the Orcs and other evil beings. (This tongue is unrelated to the Black Speech of Sauron.)

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Anonymous 02/02/16 (Tue) 13:13:29 No.346

Like most faggots I've taken to learn elvish tongues. Although I love better how quenya rolls out of the tongue, since I'm using "silvan" tongues on my D&D games, I've found myself practicing sindar way more.

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