/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover

>>78142

Yeah I was asking about this. Those are cute. Were these purchased or made, and about how much did it cost? I would love one that looks like this if it didn't break the bank.

>>78147

We had them made by a person on Fetlife. They are a little pricey at $2000 but we got a bit of a discount because we also bought a changing table from the person.

Both pieces are great quality though so they'll last for a long time. He also makes a few other items as well but I don't know He's busy making a nursery for CAPcon right now.

>>78149

** I don't know the pricing or exactly what else he makes.

>>78149

Damn 2k is really pricy. but I'm not going to say no for that alone. Any chance you have a link to a store or a way to contact him?

>>78152

Sure let me find out if he has a store or something and I'll get back to you.

>>78154

He said fetlife was probably the best bet. He's really busy right now so it may take some time for him to build for you if that's what you decide to go with.

https://fetlife.com/users/8022327

>>78152

>>78149

Two grand? Fuck that noise. I could build and sell an abdl crib just like his for half that. I work at Universal Studios as one of the prop and stage builders, and I've rebuilt the backlot facades on a tight schedule and budget so many times, I could probably turn some lumber into a crib just by willing it into existence. Threads like this make me wonder if I should start doing exactly that, make a nice side business out of it. Believe me, I would have built myself my own abdl nursery by now if I had the apartment space for it, but square footage in Hollywood is criminally expensive.

>>79589

I've been wearing to bed every night for about 5 weeks now. I'm starting to wake up wet without ever knowing when I wet. I can only hope genuine bedwetting is on the horizon. I really want to wear every single night from now on, and it's super exciting to see progress.

I'm actually planning on bringing a change with me to a friends house so I can keep this going. If anyone asks, i "need" them. Simple as that.

>>79603

any advice to make disposal smell less bad?

that's the only thing really stopping me, i don't want my outside bin to smell like poop.

>>79565

If you don't need to carry any costs (i.e. your own woodshop) you should definitely advertise this.

You aren't likely to be drowning in customers but if it were profit for you on each order, it only makes rational sense to sell your skills.

>>79619

>>79565

I mean by all means if you're able to do it…put up or shut up.

The guy who built >>78142 builds escape rooms and such for a living, has his own warehouse and professional tools, he used to build custom cabinets, and does amazing shipping (every piece is bubble wrapped, has high quality packing materials around them, comes in a custom built heavy duty discreet box that just says "wooden furniture") After all the materials and labor he puts into these he said he makes about $9-$10 / hour which really isn't a lot for the quality.

>>79617

Yeah, wrap the used diaper in newspaper before throwing it out. The paper absorbs the smell somehow.

>>79617

This is actually a good idea >>79635 Wish I had thought of that. I used those febreeze trashbags and I'd wrap the soiled nappy in that then put it into another trash bag before throwing it out.

>>77485

Here once again and holy crap I cannot believe it’s been three months of non-stop diapers.

So what’s new? Unfortunately not as much as previous updates but I’ll do what I can to describe changes. As I originally figured, things seem to be slowing down, I think.

I continue to find myself occasionally surprised at how wet I am and yesterday actually had a full on massive leak yesterday without even realizing. I was high and hydrated, I knew when I was going but my handle on how wet my diaper was was incredibly off and I didn’t even notice until I stood up to find a massive wet spot on my chair (oops). After cleaning it up I realized it might be about time for me to start checking myself a bit more .

I also seem to be wetting much more frequently. As in, there are days where I’m continuously wetting in small little spurts upwards of every 5-10 minutes at times if I’m staying hydrated enough.

Finally, I think I might actually be becoming a bed wetter despite not actively trying to. Yes I’ve been waking, wetting, sleeping but bedwetting was never a real goal. It’s a bit hard to deny though as these last two nights I’ve slept soundly but found my diaper a bit more wet than when I went to bed. It’s possible I’m just forgetting waking up but my rest has been much more sound. I’ll keep an eye on this.

Finally, a mental change I’ve noticed is I seem mentally to not be comfortable out of diapers anymore. I’ve admittedly taken several “breaks” for a couple hours in which I haven’t had loss of control but every time I find myself returning to a diaper before long. It’s become a massive inconvenience for me to get up and use the toilet when I’ve got perfectly good diapers I can wet (and mess) and continue doing what I was doing.

We’re getting close to the time I originally intended to stop wearing but that concept has gone right out the window for the time being. I don’t know what’s next but I’ll see everyone with another update in a month! :)

>>79678

Waking up then wetting yourself and going back to sleep is what causing you to wet as you sleep now. Since you are telling your body is okay to wet yourself in bed and while asleep.

>>79635

What the fuck is a newspaper?

>>78119

>Making a new thread since the old one isn't working properly

Can someone else confirm this? It's working here.

If you guys want to use this thread instead I'm fine with it. I can put it on cycle.

>>79691

Haha I figured as much. I just didn’t expect much to come of it so soon since most people describe it taking much longer.

>>79565

Two grand is way too much to charge, but I understand lots of people are too lazy to learn to make shit, and there are few people who are providing the service he is.

Basically, anyone who knows how to do woodwork should make cribs for $1.5K to undercut his ass.

>>79608

Emergency crews run into this sort of situation all the time. We're good about now letting it get around, and we dont usually let news crews film at all. If you aren't properly dressed, you'll get a blanket for modesty.

NOW SLEEP IN THE CRIB.

>>79857

Nooo.

But what about a fire then, boom trapped burned alive. I already wear a cotton onesie under my fleece jammies so it wont melt to my body

>>79860

If you are serious enough to get an adult-sized crib, you could always use a fail-open electromagnetic locking system to secure the bars and link it up to your fire alarm. It would probably cost at least a hundred dollars to buy all the parts for a professional quality system, but that's still a lot less than the price of a crib.

>>79978

I dealt with this a lot starting out and flip-flopped a lot on committing because of it. My suggestions would be:

1. Make "in the moment" backsliding inconvenient. 24/7 guides aren't just adding fap fuel when they tell you to throw out all your underwear; if it's easier just to put on another diaper, you'll probably do that even if you're having second thoughts at the time.

2. Make being padded and without control as convenient as possible. Wear padding that's as thick as you need. Make carrying a change/supplies with you an "always" deal, not a precaution. Being in a full diaper and unable to change is going to feel shitty…oun intended, sometimes. Make it easy on yourself.

3. Accept that you don't/shouldn't have control. This is a mental thing, so it's harder, but–try not to think of being diapered as a choics you're making. Once you start to lose control, even a little, diapers are just something you need. Reinforce that they're just a necessary part of your identity while you can, and you'll hit those ruts less.

4. Accept that you *will* get caught and be ready for that. You cannot go 24/7 and remain discreet to everyone; trying to do so will make you miserable. Force yourself to change while out and about, get used to thinking about what you'll say when–not if–someone notices. If you're not ready to face the risk of being "outed," you will make yourself miserable trying to be dependant full-time and still discreet.

Bedwetting is the best! That is all.

>>80095

oh my lord i wish those numbers were just lightly less

bedwetting is in fact the best tho

i love waking up wet

i dont even mind changing the sheets at this point, it just makes me so happy to wake up like that

>>80412

As someone with a MASSIVE panty fetish, it's always really sad to read that someone threw out their panties. They should've been donated…

How high do the costs of wearing 24/7 get? I've never even worn diapers before but once I get my one place I'm highly considering trying to go 24/7. I fantasize about it a lot but I don't want to waste every cent I'll make on diapers.

>>80708

For me, it runs about $200-$300/month, which covers 3 changes/day in just premium ABDL disposables. I wear cloth at home and to bed as necessary to keep costs down when my supplies start getting tight, but usually the cost stays towards the lower-end anyway.

You could definitely get by on less if you buy disposables based on price or rely on cloth more heavily, but honestly if it's not something you can budget around I don't recommend committing hard to untrain.

>>80715

I guess it ultimately depend on my financial situation and how much I'm willing to spend. I like the idea of untraining but I wonder how realistic it is or if the enjoyment goes away once you start to lose control. It's something I'll eventually have to experiment with. I saw an anon in the last thread who wondered if it was possible to untrain one's self in diapers only while at home. If that's possible I'd love that

>>80707

Liking panties and diapers is suffering.

>>81081

Pretty much what this person said. With the added "I enjoy taking care of you and it makes me happy to see you happy, and I know this will make you happy" / "it's not a big deal, I like knowing you're safe and comfortable" thrown in there. Then a little bit of "you're too little" talk or some head pats with reassuring words can go a long way. At least that's what my Mommy does with me.

I've been wearing the Abena M3s, and just switched to Northshore Air supreme, and It's enough that it's making me want to push past my last setting of a week in diapers. M3s were good for 2 - 2 1/2 wettings, but I've found that I can fully wet these 4 times and still feel fine in them. They are a bit more bulky in the crotch. But I feel that is actually what's pushing me to wear in public. Them being harder to hide, but not crinkly seems to work at scaring/anxiety that it's helping me get over it.

>>81081

Ah! I've thought of another thing, The Snuggy Analogy:

Marketing a product designed for handicapped people to a general audience to offset the RnD cost and production cost.

In other words, people who constantly use and purchase diapers when they don't exactly need them, or don't need them at all are probably making life easier for the people that do need them since the more, since the less niche a product is the less expensive it is to produce in bulk.

If not for where I work, I'd probably wear diapers at least the majority of the time. Most if not every day, if I'm at home, I'm either diapered or enjoying being naked.

>>81134

>people who constantly use and purchase diapers when they don't exactly need them, or don't need them at all are probably making life easier for the people that do need them since the more, since the less niche a product is the less expensive it is to produce in bulk.

AXKSHUALLY the super-premium diapers we wear don't do so well on normal markets; actual caregivers and incontinent people don't actually like the increased capacities, since while fewer changes means fewer units used and it being usually cheaper in the long run, it's not worth the increased time sitting in your own piss or shit. Likewise, a lot of genuinely incontinent people who would be the target market for tape-up briefs that hold a gorillion litres of water generally use catheters or colostomy bags instead because they're often wheelchair or bed bound, and diapering is simply physically impractical (since you have to get out of the chair to change, and if you could get out of the chair, why are you in the chair)

All that said, there's only very slightly little wrong with wearing diapers. It's wasteful and smelly, sure, but so's owning an overpowered 4x4 truck or >>79565

>Threads like this make me wonder if I should start doing exactly that, make a nice side business out of it.

The big problem isn't materiel cost, it's shipping.

>>79565

Got any stories about Universal Studios?

>>79857

It is so interesting to see real people with highly successful jobs here. EMT and an employee of Universal Studios. Wow. Makes me feel better about my fetishes, like when I saw that rubberpup who was a doctor talkimg about pissplay with another to which his nurse responded "oh my God!"

>>81216

theoretically yes but i'm sure you'd get many complications way before you risk incontinence such as UTI.

>>81216

i've seen both ways - studies that show reduced capacity and increased urgency from long term (6 months) of cathing, versus anecdotes on DD where it had little effect on them

you could always try it and see

>>81241

if you're nervous about leaking you have to become comfortable with leaking, and know when a leak is likely. that may mean deliberately leaking, but better to do so intentionally than not

>>81241

try drinking a lot of water and practice deliberately wetting small amounts. If you drink enough you'll get to a state where you have to go very often so you can practice letting it out.

Just don't do it too often or drink too much. Your body won't like it.

>>81313

lol fucking imposter

That's a picture of Serah in Diapers and she hasn't been 24/7 for over 2 years you loser

Next time you try to impersonate someone get your facts straight

Pic is unrelated

>>81317

Are you actually dumb. The pic doesn't have to be related lol. Nobody would actually pretend thats their picture, it's too professional looking

How long did it take you guys to start messing spontanteously or at least start losing control? I fantasize more about that than wetting

>>81325

I think it's way easier to lose bowel control than losing bladder control, so I honestly think you could do it much faster than wetting. I think it's because bowels don't give a fuck and just start trying to push a mess out when they decide to, not when you feel like doing it like with the bladder

>>81327

This is good to hear. I think you’re right in that controlling your bowels takes a lot more conscious effort (at least for me) than with peeing. Just generally speaking, diapers aside, I’ve never gotten close to pissing myself, but I’ve definitely had small accidents when I try to hold my bowels for too long before so with a little push I hope I could become diaper-dependent quickly.

>>81422

I’ve recently started work at two new jobs (one full time office job and one retail part time) that I’ve been wearing 24/7 to. Realistically, I just purchased pants in a size up and now I have no worries any more. I just tuck in an under shirt and wear a shirt and I get changed on lunch.

Realistically, if you’re thinking about going 24/7 you’ll eventually stop giving a shit about people seeing because realistically, nobody is paying attention. When I started this I had the mindset “There’s no way NOBODY will notice.” Now, it’s become “fuckit, there’s no way they’ll know what they’re looking for unless they already know and even if they do everyone is too polite to stop you and go “OH MY GOD IS THAT A DIAPER?!””

I find whenever I have tried going 24/7 what wears me down the most is work. Not to mention the extra hassle of changing and the consciousness of crinkling and my shirt rising up, most of all I find that the great feeling of the diaper itself is what drains my energy the most. I just dont work as effectively when I'm that distracted, which is what bothers me the most about wearing and it's usually what ends my streak - particularly when there is a high priority item that demands my full attention. Does anyone relate to that?

In regards to being "found out" and trying not to care, I get concerned more than anything that being seen as an invalid would affect my career.

>>81428

>do everyone is too polite to stop you and go “OH MY GOD IS THAT A DIAPER?!””

This. Only a complete asshole would call you out for wearing a diaper and calling attention to it. People genuinely won’t assume that it’s being worn for fetish / preference reasons but rather for a medical need. Unless you’re walking around in a full diaper for hours and smell like shit no one is going to mind

>>81428

>>81422

Also work full time, also have no issues with getting 'caught'. I'm not even particularly careful, to tell the truth.

>>81501

Yeah, that happens to me too. I thought it was a halfway-to-a-UTI, but I think it's just muscle soreness from disuse.

How to spit on the grave of your ancestors by making yourself sexually unmarketable and therefore prematurely ending their bloodline.

>>81640

Nobody here is going to listen to you dude

>>81643

Nope, which is kind of a shame, since everyone knows this is at best frowned upon by normal people. That's why no one will be telling their friends and family the actual reason why they can't normally use the restroom anymore. Doubt is all it takes to have people not make stupid decisions. From then it's repression of impulses, a good therapist, a healthy social circle that doesn't enable weird stuff and an understanding that your life isn't independent of that which came before it or that which is still to come.

>>81645

> your life isn't independent of that which came before it

Ancestry focused asian detected. White people don't care, and most of their ancestors were asshole hick farmers anyway so not a big loss.

>>81640

Bleh, I am mutt so theie legacy is already ruinned

>>81645

>>81640

If they wanted a sexually marketable kid, perhaps they shouldn't have made me incontinent to begin with? Same logic applies.

Bump

>>81640

You don't owe anything to your ancestors. The one problem our world doesn't have is a shortage of humans. Some faggot with weird fetishes deciding not to reproduce will not in any way hinder our species' chances of surviving into the deep future.

>>83896

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/population-decline-is-bad-for-us/

Human population is directly correlated to how cheap it is to acquire goods and services throughout all human history

less people = life harder.

Any disproven Maltusian economics to the contrary is idiocy. Unfortunately, it still carries because everyone loves doom and gloom and since we know the size of the rock we live on, we think we can us it up.

For us to use up this rock human population would need to be on a scale several magnitudes higher and, by that point, we'd easily develop the technology to start pulling resources from outer space.

Look a Japan if you want to see what happens when populations decline. It's a sad, slow decline where every year is slightly worse than before. The U.S. is falling into it just now. World population expected to cap 2060-2080 because everyone's too damn selfish to raise kids.

>>81640

>prematurely ending their bloodline

lmao I had an orchiectomy cos' my balls were basically cancer waiting to happen, I can be as degenerate and as gay as I want without that shame

>>83898

No. Everything you just wrote is staggeringly stupid.

But hey, I'm sure 99% of scientists are wrong about what's going to happen if we don't drastically reduce our resource consumption. Some guy from CBS News has got it all figured out.

Honestly, opinions like yours only reaffirm my belief that bringing children into this world is profoundly unethical. You can dig your own kids' graves - not mine.

Can we get back to talking about diapers and incontinence and stuff, who cares about global reproduction rates and shit

>>83932

>"scientists"

Listen fag no one wants to hear you preach about your god and what he thinks might happen.

Posts unbiased facts or gtfo

>>81241

Dont worry about "messing things up" too much. You have been deliberately holding it since you were potty trained. Accidentally holding it some of the time when you are trying to just let go wont make it any harder in the long run to lose control. It might delay it, but it wont make it less possible. You might just need more time to get used to just using diapers all the time.

I would say just try to not worry about it. The more relaxed about everything happening down there, the better. If you accidentally clamp down, no big deal, just go with the flow (no pun intended).

The ideas about drinking lots of water to "practice" is good too.

I've been wearing diapers 24/7 for wetting for a while now, and I want to make the transition to using them for everything, no toilets. It's kind of scary, but I know I want to do it.

Any tales of encouragement…?

>>84043

I'd recommend reading the posts on Serahs blog but she writes insanely massive posts and hated messing to start with so you have to read a lot before it gets encouraging and she ends up liking it

Worth it though if you can be bothered

>>83905

>>83898

tell me more about /r9k/

Oh great all the threads are getting spammed again.

>>84186

Actually there was good economic theory about that - so it's not really anecdotal as much as argumentative.

But the whole point of that argument was getting the thread back on track by validating that you can be functional in a relationship, and a male wearing a diaper all the time. Which is very not /r9k/

—

Anyway back to topic. As someone trying to wear more and get closer to wearing 24/7, what is a good pull-up for that?

I have Abri-flex and Tranquility. Which works better with boosters?

>>84271

Abri-flex in my experience, more roomy to fit stuffers in, but it's been at least 5 years since I wore pull-ups regularly. If you don't mind an additional suggestion, I've worn the Northshore pull-ups recently that they send as bonuses in their cases and they hold up pretty damn well. When I first saw it in my package I thought it was a thinner diaper at first because it looked thicker than a typical pull-up. Worth contacting them for a free sample imo.

>>78119

I've always had a fantasy of slowly sabotaging someone into becoming involuntarily incontinent (wouldn't have to be permanent, just frequent enough accidents that they'd have to wear at night or occasionally throughout the day)

Anyone got anything on that subject?

>>84330

Uhm, I think everyone in this thread would be doing such a method to themselves if it was easy to sabotage someone's control.

>>84447

I started messing while in private early on in my time going 24/7 and am full-on "never hold it, either way" at this point.

That being said…sitting in a messy diaper is pretty much always bad news. It makes the risk of rash way worse than just being wet for extended periods, creates a higher risk of UTIs, and increases your stank level several times over.

If you decide to mess while 24/7, my advice is to change immediately when possible and ASAP when not in complete private. (Having full pants is the one situation short of leaks where normies are likely to clue in to what's happened and also the one where they're least likely to be sympathetic for long.)

If you enjoy messy pants, playing for a couple hours here and there won't cause real problems if you're hygienic, wash thoroughly, and keep shaved.

Going on another week straight in just diapers for number 1, I don't like the idea of doing number 2 in them, just not comfy. I ended up hiding all of my boxers and noticed that after fapping instead of procrastinating I went ahead and diapered right up after about 4 days without any sort of fuss towards myself. Kinda just got up, grabbed a diaper layed down put it on and sat back down at my desk without even putting on pants. Just felt really normal at that point.

Wow the newbies in this thread are idiots.

>>84563

Where did you ever get the idea that your apartment would somehow smell to people in other apartments, that's retarded

There's this insane concept called throwing out used diapers rather than stashing them all under your bed forever, truly ahead of its time though, not many people know about it

I have been wearing Northshore every night a little over a year for the pleasure of it. I also use my pasi every night. I am not interested in completely going 24/7 but i have became attached to the diapers i have noticed. I can’t remember the last time i wore panties due to chronic constipation pill i take i stay very loose, full time diarrhea so i wear pull-ups to work. My husband is not into abdl at all so i am alone in it. I find it hard to change if I don’t make it to the toilet for number 2. Any suggestions of best diarrhea public clean up without help?Where do people change in public I don’t fit on baby change station? Thanks

>>84556

You usually wash it off fairly thoroughly. Sometimes stuff can get under the cream, and you should have a fairly thin layer anyway. Plus, It's good to have nothing on there once in a while to air out your skin.

>>84563

The smell isn't as bad as people figure. A good diet and some chlorophyll tablets will deal with it completely, and just get a diaper pail so your apartment doesnt stank.

>>84614

Well, >>84616 is kinda right. I've never been in an apartment. I can smell food cooking in the kitchen from across my house, and I bet a used diaper would smell the place up. Obviously I'm not talking about storing a bunch of used diapers out in the open, but does a trashcan/diaper pail really keep the stink down? How often do you take out the trash if you're 24/7? Living in a house, where the trashcan is in the garage, I only take out the trash when it's full, which could be as rare as once a week.

>>84617

Thanks for an actual answer.

>>84540

>decide to mess while 24/7

There is no "decide" to mess while 24/7. If you're 24/7, then you're 24/7, always, at EVERY POINT IN TIME. You do not get to choose what you do and what you don't do with your elimination. Only those who are REALLY go all the way will reap the rewards.

If you "decide" anything, you are not real 24/7 and basically you can kill yourself at this point.

>>84675

>If you "decide" anything, you are not real 24/7 and basically you can kill yourself at this point.

Wow, that escalated pretty quickly for nothing. Like being 24/7 is kinda stupid anyway.

>>84675

>Only those who are REALLY go all the way will reap the rewards.

Holy shit. What reward? You faggots trying to kill your potty training make us other diaper lovers look like the sane ones.

>>84728

There is nothing “insane” about wanting to undo potty-training. Some people like that lifestyle better. It might even be better for the body if you think about it

>>84735

>uhm shitting yourself is healthy ackshually

>>84545

So an update to this, I was actually quite surprised. Woke up to my M4s being shipped. Put one on and went back to sleep and woke up kinda wet, wasn't big but a very noticeable wet spot on the front of these. I wasn't expecting that to happen so quickly. But this has been my 5th or 6th week long stint and I had decided to stay in them this time and it's now been over a week. So that was pretty neat. It surprised me and made me a bit giddy at the same time.

>>84735

Nice mental gymnastics

does a anybody remember this tumblr blog ran by thia girl named ashley that had articles about 24/7 training

>>79617

Yo,

What I usually do is get those scented garbage bags you can find at outlets or in supermarkets, then tie the used diapers in a bag. I double it if I have a really messy one to deal with. :P

>>84823

She got booted off the site in the Tumblr purge, and is now struggling to find an audience on Twitter. She gets like one or two likes per tweet.

She admitted that she made no backups of her writings so lol

>>84835

Damn it

>>84873

Her stuff was a really thinly-veiled grift, anyway. Obvs. like 90% of untraining stories are fake, but hers absolutely was and was backed up by trying to get people to pay for a poorly-written, BS rehash of the 12-month training program.

>>84892

I don't remember any indication that anything was being sold. Are we referring to the same person?

>>84893

Lol she constantly made posts selling her copied diaper training guide and had links to like three different things to buy her on every single post

She also plagurised almost all her content off other creators. Glad she's lost everything

There's only one Ashley who wrote diaper training guides, you were probably just too horny to notice her selling stuff on every post

>>84331

I meant any artwork/stories/whatever with that as a theme/subject. I know it's probably impossible to do IRL.

I always had a fantasy of being/having an evil babysitter that either did it to me, or me doing it to a cute shota or loli.

>>84909

Sorry I just have a hard time remembering things

im in her discord and I don't believe for a second that she is incon at all. Mostly because I am and her talking about it seems… off.

Now on the other hand she is super nice and I do like talking to her so if she wants to rip dumb people off and live her fantasy narrative then go for it.

>>85012

She writes fap fiction, that's all there is to it. It's why almost every post she ever wrote talked about how horny diapers made her every single day and how she orgasmed every time she went out

When you're incontinent or wearing 24/7 for years you're not forever turned on by it every minute of every day

>>85017

Like I said. I didnt believe it for a second. I have to wear so I understand that about not being turned on lol. Dumb people are gonna be dumb and pay money for that privilege then let them.

Think anyone will ever make an updated 12 month guide?

>>81216

sorry for bad English, second language.

I do think that is possible, at least from what I learned during a hospital stay.

As a teen I had surgery, I had become temporary paralyzed from waist down so they put in a catheter. first couple of weeks they just let the valve be open so pee would drip down a bag. Then the nurses told me I would need to retrain my bladder so they would stop the valve for some hours and then open it and let the urine gather in the bag.

Now this was of course a extreme situation and I recovered completely, But I got the impression if they did not stop the valve when I was finished in the recovery I could have been incontinent. kind of wish they messed up the training but thankfully I don't need catheters, that might be the worst thing I have had done to me.

I'm more or less starting my phases of 24/7. I plan on doing it chunks at a time to be fully sure this is what I want to do. So far we are going on a week of full time diapers and I've already started wetting the bed again (granted I've had a history of this). So I plan the next stretch to be a month solid and from there most likely making the full switch. I havent had 1 bad experience with being full time yet, and this week has only reinforced that this is right for me. 200 diapers are on the way, to fit in with my 50 or so I have left. Here's hoping we can squash potty training quick ;).

>>85228

I've got some experience yeah. This is all probably gonna read like fapfic, sorry lol. A dom friend I did a lot of CNC play with back in the day used chastity to put me back in diapers on my first go-around with long-term 24/7. My previous cage experience was only for 3 or 4 days at a time, so moving to weeks locked up was a massive bitch to acclimate to. Once I got used to it though, things were pretty comfy, albeit abnormal. My emotions seemed to have a constant undertone of sexual frustration and my diaper obsession just kept fucking growing. I lasted almost a year in pampers the first go, took a break for a few months, and then went another couple years after that. It helped immensely having someone keyholding, checking to make sure I stayed diapered, and praising me for "good behavior". I was usually allowed to get off every couple of weeks and my sexual (AKA diaper) desires stayed pretty strong afterwards, or at least didn't drop so far that I fought or argued being locked back up and changed into a fresh diaper.

As an aside, locking up solo is its own kind of fun, but having someone you trust reaffirm that diapers and chastity is right for you normalizes it. Ingrain them both as positive to the point that you'll never want it to stop. Would strongly recommend it if you can find someone to encourage you, even if you're not into femdom shit.

Anyways, I quit locking up a while back after my friend and I quit playing together as often. The diapers stuck around, but locking up on my own and all the involved upkeep just wasn't that appealing anymore. Gotten engaged since then and my partner will sometimes lock me up for a week or three when we've got a strong big/little thing going on between us, but the denial/restriction has never quite gotten the shine back.

If you don't mind some advice, 5-7 days between orgasms was always a pretty good break-point for me to avoid that post-climax drop. A few days can work too if you can't hold off, but the oxytocin+dopamine drop can be a bitch. Most of the times that I've fucked up and gone back to underwear or unlocked early has been after 2 or 3-day stints like that. Depends on your libido obviously, but once you build up to it a week'll usually guarantee that you have enough brain-drugs available to keep you focused on your training/goals and staying properly diapered.

Bladder and bowel control is 100% gone!

I'm actually kinda considering doing 24/7 without any untraining. At least for now. Does anyone do this?

>>85730

Whenever I'm not at work, I'm usually diapered. I definitely go to pubs and clubs diapered. I don't do any funky "untraining" but for the most part all of my off-hours are diapered.

Very few people have said anything about it, despite any thick diapers, leaks, whatever. Even letting diapers peek out of my bag usually results in someone asking about a book title they see in there instead.

>>85228

What I've found is that even after changing after (during?) a climax is that like 20 minutes later, I have to piss again, and I realize that 20 minutes after that, I'll have to piss again, and bedtime will be absolutely terrible since I'll have to keep getting up so many times that will eventually wake me up.

It's still hot to be in diapers sometimes but for the most part, fapping in a diaper or whatever is something for mornings or evenings, not just whenever I'm padded. And if the diaper isn't full, I just keep it on, cuz, like, I don't want to wake up in a puddle.

Do you think teaching is a job where 24/7 is off limits even if you slightly need them?

>>85732

Absolutely not. What kid pays attention to their teachers? And with periods averaging 80ish minutes, there's the potential of "I can't go even if I need to" but still plenty of opportunity to change, and you have your own special staff room to do it in (in most schools)

>>85733

It's tough in a conservative community because you are around children all day and you don't want people to get the wrong idea. It's the only thing keeping me from 24/7 at this point!

My problem is I don't get one bathroom break from 700-11:45 or so. Second problem is I don't have a direct diagnosis I can use if my boss or HR asks a question.

>>85734

>the wrong idea

It's not childish to use diapers, it implies an illness. If you're really worried, switch from ridiculous furry-printed diapers to plain colors and medical stuff like M4s or Forsite AM/PMs or whatever, instead of ABUs and Crinklz.

>direct diagnosis

self-treatment. People get asperin and ibuprophen for themselves to self-medicate for headaches and swelling, why can't you' do the same sort of "just make it work" stuff for if you need to piss more often than most people?

>>85735

Thanks for the encouragement! Maybe I'll wear a Safari to work tomorrow!

You guys see the Kali and Serah in Diapers are in talks over a new 12 month guide?

I wonder what they'd add

>>85737

Friday went fine and I was able to change in the staff bathroom, but it felt horrifying. Lots of people on reddit have responded negatively to the idea of a teacher wearing because they assume everything is fetish related. I'm afraid they kindof represent the majority tho and how admin might take it.

>>85863

Safari's hold so much more then Abena M4's though.. I can't make it to lunch with just an M4. Otherwise, yea I'd feel way better wearing discreetness to the max.

>>85867

If you're already dropping hard cash on Safaris, look into Megamaxes. Absorbency of top-tier ABDL diapers, medical look so you don't look like a total autist if you get caught. If you want something a little cheaper and less absorbent, ABU Simples or Dry 24/7s work too.

Lol Diaper Training Ashley just said she never uses powder or lotion or anything with her diapers and yet she's apparently been wearing 24/7 for years without getting a rash

What a fucking fake, she can't even lie properly

I've been 24/7 with the goal of untraining for close to a month now. I've finally gotten to the point where I'm consistently wetting my bed every night. It's super easy to wet at all times and I even leak when I'm not trying to when I bend over to grab something off the floor. My potty training was perfectly fine before this, I just wore diapers on a nightly basis. I'm okay with the progress I'm seeing. I just have no idea why I seem to be progressing at 2.5x the normal unpotty training speeds, but I'm happy with it.

>>85870

Some people have naturally "tougher" skin, not to say she isn't a liar but I almost never use rash prevention stuff and I wear pretty close to 24/7. It is only a problem if I'm going to be in a diaper more than six hours and that generally isn't normal use anyways.

>>85867

>>85868

Perhaps look into booster pads? One M4 with a booster pad should suffice until lunch. Really, you can't explain away ABDL diapers if you work with children; you'd get fired on the spot at best. Make it look like incontinence and you are in the clear.

I'd definitely look into a way to notify your employer about having to wear diapers for medical reasons; it would make it safe for you to carry on.

>>85858

You said it went fine. Safaris are discreet and nothing matches their capacity. Double bag your changes and you are fine. Unions will murder a school for someone having a potential medical issue and being heckled for it. Worse they can do is ask you have a more discreet pattern in case of an issue with concealment.

>>84958

For a second source, she definitely was trying to sell a guide. It was only like $5 so I gave it a purchase. It's nothing special.

She also reposted her own stuff a lot to seem more active and copied articles whole cloth from I Love Diapers (that pretty old blog by Adrian Surley or something). I can't remember if she credited it or not, but it definitely didn't link the source or anything.

Not trying to start a witch hunt, but you can probably live without her stuff.

>>85970

She's never once credited anyone for anything she's stolen

>>85731

I work from home, so even work would be a non issue.

So what blogs or creators or websites should I be following or checking out for 24/7 diaper training stuff?

>>85980

Kali and Serah are the obvious ones

So I'm confused by something mentioned earlier, is there an actual 24/7 discord?

>>86034

There was one but it completely died. Unless there's a new one

>>86035

Well sounds interesting anyway.

>>85870

way back when on tumblr i sent her an ask about why there was a prostate massager on her amazon wishlist…i was blocked and it disappeared soon after

so worse yet it's some dipshit getting his rocks off larping

>>86206

Ha ha, I'm not even slightly surprised it's someone LARPing. The only photos they ever took were of used diapers bundled up on the floor (which wtf) or photos so zoomed in on the diaper they were wearing that you couldn't even see any skin

>>79678

Hey all, I just wanted to do a quick check in. It’s quickly coming up on 5 months for me and aside from a handful of <12 hour breaks spread out over weeks, I’ve been more or less diapered 24/7 the whole time.

Obviously taking small breaks is likely slowing progress but I will say that at this point I’m beginning to not be fully comfortable NOT wearing diapers. I’ll have a more comprehensive breakdown soonish hopefully but I can say I have unintentionally become a bedwetter it seem. 😅

When I have a bit more time to fully describe my current control I’ll sit down and write more. Just didn’t want to disappear entirely!

>>86475

I can't speak for anyone else, but I genuinely look forward to hearing about your progress, so do keep it up.

>>86206

Wait, come again? What's wrong with a prostate massager?

>>86509

Someone's bad at critical thinking

>>86509

Nothing. If you have a prostate.

>>86509

Basic biology FAIL.

or it's just bait. well done

I'm now at 3 weeks and have gotten bolder with changing. No one has noticed yet and dark plastic bags hide the abdl diapers so I can keep the absorbency!

>>87044

Do you have an active life, going out often? How you manage messing?

If you have this lifestyle, maybe it's better to use the diapers just to wet.

I always had this fantasy of wearing a messy diaper all weekend. After a few hours my skin started to burn and I had to throw the diaper out. wtf this isnt how it turned out in ever furry diaper fanfic i have read.

>>87107

>After a few hours my skin started to burn

Did you apply something, like powder or ointment before getting diapered? If not, of course it will burn, it's fecal matter rubbing against your bare skin.

>>87110

I used powder but grinding in the diaper until climax probably made everything worse. I just want to wear one diaper forever without needing to change, is that so much to ask??

>>87111 (checked)

Only powder is not even close to be enough.

Get a good rash cream and butter your ass with it. I don't know for how long you can stay in a messed diaper. Maybe for two or three hours you'll be fine.

Someone else can give a better advice regarding this. I remember someone talking about sleeping in a messed diaper in the older thread and he used tons of ointment, oil and powder.

>>87107

>>87111

It’s awful for your skin and probably even your health to be in contact with your own shit and piss for longer than an hour or two (and even that’s stretching it imo). I love to fill up diapers and sit in my filth as well, but I recognize that it’s not the cleanest fetish. You’d be better off cleaning yourself up and just doing 24/7 normally instead of subjecting your skin to constant contact with shit and piss

I finally woke up to a wet diaper! It's surreal and kinda freaky tbqh

I'm going on month 2 of 24/7. I'm bedwetting pretty much every other night. I've had mixed feelings here and there about the whole thing, but every time I think about it, this has been an overall positive change in my life and I want to continue it. My daytime control is still pretty strong unfortunately, however I seem to have developed very light stress incontinence. When im tired or laugh hard or bend over and lift a heavy box I'll wet. That's always a really strange but wonderful feeling. I always thought I would get burnt out on diapers after a week of this. But it keeps getting better so I keep wearing. I think I may be in this for the long haul.

>>87979

can i ask what kind of diapers you're using; i'm interested in maybe going 24/7 but i worry about cost

>>87980

I've tried a lot of kinds and the solution thats worked best to stretch money for me may not work the same for you. That being said, I've found that the PlayDayz in the tykables store for normal during the day stuff and bambino teddy's with a booster for bedtime works like a charm for me.

I had been thinking about 24/7 for years at this point so I tried almost every diaper out there. This combo seems to be the right balance of absobancy to dollar for my wetting habits. I've seen others need much heavier protection during their first few months for during the day because most people flood while trying to learn to dribble. So what I do may not work for you.

Now that it is summer break, time to take 24/7 to the next level!

Anyone have some good guides or long term dares that would be fun to do along some regular training?

>>85228

What cage do you use? I've tried a metal bird cage style and cb6000 style cages and both were uncomfortable and pulled really hard when I got a boner. I was thinking about getting a genuine HTv3 because I've only heard good things and I want to wear something underneath my diaper to prevent boners and make me not masterbait out of boredom.

I'm going to try this soon.

So what are the best diapers absorbency wise and what boosters should I use. I want to be able to make them last as long as possible for it to be as cheap as possible.

I would also need a cage to keep my boners at bay. I don't want anything that'll be painful as hell.

Man, the hardest part of getting used to this is the changing my diaper at work. I'm still trying to be as quite as possible since I still have the urge for no one to know, despite going on my second week of diapers and usually changing once or twice a day. Today I didn't have to pee though since it was so hot I sweated everything out, But damn the clumping that ended up on my butt was actually worse then a wet diaper.

>>89397

Yeah sweaty diapers does sound awful. That's why the best time to wear is during the middle of winter and you warm yourself by peeing.

I asked this on another site, but I thought I'd ask here. If I were to order something like ATNs on Amazon are there any sellers I should avoid like the plague?

>>78142

Does your mommy cuck you, or do you fuck her right in the pussy

>>89397

Stuff like this makes me realize just how lucky I am being a work at home guy. I think I could get away with going to work on say Sundays in nothing but a shirt and a diaper and no one would even know.

>>87979

Now starting month 3. I can feel some control slipping away. But its very gradual and almost unnoticeable. I haven't had any problems with bowel control unlike what I've read might happen. Feeling confident in my ability to keep going and that this is right for me. I just upgraded my daytime protection too. Hopefully thicker padding during the day can help induce faster and more subconscious wetting.

>>85751

all i know is that they'll probably make it free unlike ashley

>>90511

You gotta link for that? I've managed to hurt myself a couple times with botched "not actually caths" cathing attempts, so something a bit more purpose made would be nice.

>>90515

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Hole-thru-Silicone-Urethral-Sounding-Plug-Stimulation-Catheter-Dilator-/232927615192?varId=532451081286&txnId=1697711687013

I haven't taken it out yet so I dunno if it'll be a pain to pee later, but It's worth a try. It still feels like there's a tube in your dick, but it's not going anywhere. It takes about a week to arrive from China.

It tempted to drill a hole in the center, someone on dailydiapers said adding an extra hole makes it rush out easier, but I don't want to go to the hospital over that if I get a tiny cut in the urethra.

>>90516

35cm length, 8.5mm diameter I take it? The tube I've attempted to use previously left the whole tract rather tender, and may have actually seated itself too far in, or was to squishy to actually keep from crushing shut meaning nothing was able to make it through the tube, only forcing itself around it painfully. It was also somewhere in the range of maybe 6mm outer

>>90519

Do you think a beginner can start using this right away? How do you insert when you have a boner?

>>90511

This makes you incontinent?

Where did you buy it and what does it do exactly?

>>90585

Read the posts in the thread again. Slowly. Out loud.

>>90511

Have you slept with it in? Does the little tip poking out into your diaper bug you? Is there any traversal with erections?

Currently at about 5 months of 24/7. I feel a very strong mental dependency on diapers. I could probably get away from being in them all the time if I truly wanted, but I feel I "belong" in them now. I'm having conflicting feelings about it but overall still ok with being potentially incontinent.

Purely hypothetically, if I was going to be telling my doctor about how I'd been having issues controlling my bowels, and they asked how often this was happening, what kind of amount should I say that wouldn't be going too far?

Two or three times a week? Once a week?

I'm trying to figure out how often it happens to normal, non untrained people who just have some bowel incontinence naturally and go with that amount.

>>91106

I'd assume it's more about the quantity than the frequency. Like you wouldn't know in advance if you were going to fart or poop, so you'd always have skidmarks in your underwear. Not sure why you'd go to a doctor, he'll probably run scans and tests and realize you're lying.

>>91113

>horsefucker is retarded

ayy lmao

>>91106

You think "normal" people have issues controlling their bowels about once a week? (Or are at least worried once a week isn't frequently enough)

Outside intentional diaper stuff or getting diarrhea, as an adult (so about 10 years now) I've only had one incident controlling my bowels and it was mainly just needing to go bad and getting stuck in traffic.

>>91106

>>91181

I don't know really but I have a lot of problems with my bowels. As a teen I had like 3 accidents with diarrhea and as adult maybe 4 times.

I don't know what the problem is but I have to run to the bathroom almost immediately I feel some need which is a pain when it comes to work because I have to drive to get to any nearby toilet.

I don't know really what >>91106 is looking for because I went to the doctors 2 times just to get any type of help(not diapers) but they just did some tests and came up with nothing.

I suggest taking medications like loperamid to make the stool harder. That usually works for me.

>>92634

Fucking jelly tbh, and I don't even wear 24/7.

>>90511

This doesn't seem.. hygienic, if you ask me. But god damn I wish I knew how to catheterize. Feeling your diaper getting wetter without knowing is really hot.

>>92638

It isn't you are sticking a foreign object into your urethra, the majority of hospital caused adverse effects are related to UTIs caused by catherization.

>I wish I knew how to catherize

It is actually very easy just get a prelubed one and you do quite literally side it up in there, if you know how to relax your urinary sphincter it also makes insertion vastly easier.

>>92640

Hmm, where can I get cathethers in Europe?

>>92641

Online, just google it.

You also could probably pick it up at a pharmacy it isn't like they are regulated medical devices.

>>92643

I'd rather have someone do it to me before i'll damage my dick or bladder with one.

That aside: Has anyone got experience with barrier cream? There's this chick on tumblr (Serah) who worn a ABU Simple Ultra with a few stuffers for 26 hours straight and i'm planning on the same, minus the messing.

On the subject of catheters, I really want to try it, but I really don't like the idea of something in my dick. It sounds rather painful to me. How small of an outer diameter do they make these? How much sticks out of the tip? is it painful or uncomfortable if you get an erection with one in? what about just normal movement with one in? how long can you leave them in for? how do you go about removing them? What holds them in? Do I need to inflate a balloon in my bladder, or are there other methods? where can I get a handful of the easiest, most comfortable ones to insert in the US for a decently low price? how much do these things cost in general?

Iv looked into a lot of these questions, but I cant seem to find any "catheters 101" kind of deal. All the websites pretty much assume you already know about everything and know what you want/need, but I have no idea what Im looking at.

>>92671

Huh… k I guess I'll answer the battery, I have mainly worked with catheterized old people and spinal cord injury patients so that will bias me and what i know. Once again I don't like catheters unless absolutely necessary (ie neurogenic bladder, surgery, etc) due to high risk of infection in patients. but I think everyone deserves to have their medical questions answered so here is your info.

1. There is a range usually presented in Fr (fuck you France) and mm refer to a sizing chart because it depends on which type of catheter you want (ie intermittent vs foley (with and without balloon) vs condom.

2. This one I did look up to be sure Foley: To the bifurcation (split between the drain and balloon's input port) in the cath if male, or about 3 in if female. Look up insertion guidelines and/or videos for the incontinent because there are those that would go through this arduous process, rather than wear a diaper when given the option.

3. If it is painful you are doing it wrong, it will be uncomfortable initially so you may want to get the ones with lidocain and lube pre-applied, you will eventually not notice it (or so I have been told) as far as I know you will be able to have an maintain erections and are able to participate in sex with one in

4. You will be able to move just fine, just try not to bang it into anything not sure if that will bother you, but better safe than sorry.

5. Sigh… You "CAN" use indwelling foley ones for up to 3 months if the material allows (usually higher quality more expensive) I wouldn't. Check with the manufacture on that I really would be horrifed if someone did this for a fetish for more than 7 dys with the same one, again you are loading your bladder with more bacteria the longer you do this.

6. You just yank it out at high speeds! Ha fuck I have a bad story of someone that had that happen to them when a nurse tried that with the balloon still inflated and it left the patient actually incontinent (they nearly died from sepsis after their bladder and urethra were torn asunder so I wouldn't recommend it.) If it has a balloon deflate the balloon first, if not then just proceed, pull it out slowly it may be uncomfortable but shouldn't hurt unless you gave yourself a UTI

7. Its held in by the balloon if it has one, if it doesn't then it is just the smooth muscles contracting against the tube, a condom catheter is sealed to the skin by flexible skin tape.

8. If you have the balloon Foley then yes you inflate it, again refer to the manufacturer. If not then you just stick in in there and it should hold, just don't bang into it again. If you are feeling adventuress look up stents for something else.

9. Try a medical supply shop, there are some brick and mortar ones, you can also just buy them online, as for what to buy no clue, patient's like what they like I personally would recommend the no touch pre-lubed and pre-medicated ones such as the VaPro model.

10. Like a good diaper it depends on quality, you could pay a few cents you could pay double digit dollars. Look up some reviews there is a whole medical fetish world that could do a recommendation more justice, but those fags are weird.

Here are your fucking questions answered, now enjoy your future trip to your PCP for antibiotics.

Its very easy to become 24/7

for anal incon just stretch your back door until it no longer functions with larger and larger plugs dildos and toys 4 inchs wide of stretching worked for me. (longer you keep the plug in the less control you will keep) around a day or two with the plug in should allow it to heal back fully loose and you will be fully dependent on diapers because your stool will just fall and leak right out

then use sounding and inflatable caths to do the same for your bladder but takes longer

>>92673

Thanks for going through all that.

I would absolutely never plan on having one in for more than 24 hours, but honestly probably not even more than like 4 to maybe 8. I also would not plan on doing it frequently.

Other than making sure to follow instructions, what are some ways you can minimize infection risk? I imagine making sure to wash both my hands and also the entire region around the diaper really well before inserting it would be a good idea. Im also guessing that staying really well hydrated would be a good idea too, since it would basically be constantly flushing the tube out, right? (plus that has the added effect of making the effects more noticeable.) Also staying well hydrated after removing it for a while, to further help flush it out.

Do they all have something that prevents it from going all the way in? Like so it cant go so far in that there is nothing sticking out the end anymore?

>>92695

This should go without saying, but just in case.

When I say the tube is used to inflate the bladder with saline, the bladder I am referring to is the balloon, not your anatomical bladder.

>>92695

Thanks for the information.

So from how you have answered my questions (which I greatly appreciate, by the way) I get the sense that you REALLY think this is a bad idea, right? I know you said you dont like using them unless absolutely necessary. But there are different levels of "this is a bad idea dont try it" you know? For example, when I wanted to try to fix my old laptop by replacing the motherboard on it, people said it was a bad idea and its not worth it, but I did it anyway and it worked and it was awesome. I get the feeling that your talking about a whole different level of "I don't recommend doing this".

Im getting the idea that Your not just saying this is a bad idea, your saying it is a BAD idea, right?

What I had imagined doing is putting a cath in for like 4-6 hours maybe, drinking tons of fluid before, during, and after, ensuring that my whole crotch area and hands were super well cleaned before hand, not touching the cath while putting it in, and disposing of it after a single use. Also I did not plan on doing this very often, like probably not more than once in a month at least, if I even did it more than once at all.

With all that in mind, do you genuinely think that this is a bad idea? am I likely to regret this and/or cause myself more than minor/moderate discomfort and/or harm?

Again, thanks for taking the time to write all this out and answer my questions, I really appreciate it, especially since it sounds like you might have ended up saving me from doing something really dumb that I will later regret. (While I really would love to experience just constantly dribbling into a diaper without really being able to feel it, I'm not so desperate that I will put myself at significant risk of legit harming myself to do so)

Just out of curiosity, why are these things even needed? Like what causes someone to not be able to empty their bladder? You mentioned old people and spinal cord injury and all. I would think that with a spinal injury, even if their nervous system just had no communication with their bladder, it would still empty like normal when full, or at the very least just remain open all the time. In fact, I would imagine it would be more prone to those cases if it was not able to communicate with the nervous system.

>>92722

My uncle had his knee replaced and was put under in that area, after he came back he had absolutely zero feeling in that area so they had to cath him to empty his bladder.

>>92723

With "that area" I mean the the lower waist and everything below it."

>>92724

>>92723

What I don't get though is what not being able to feel anything down there has to do with not being able to empty your bladder. Sure you cant control it, but I would imagine that it would just empty on its own then.

Also, why was he not able to feel anything at all? Like for how long? I know someone who just had a knee replacement and they never mentioned anything about losing sensation (after the anesthesia/nerve block wore off, at least)

Also knee replacements are fucking brutal. It improves your life soooo much, but the actual process of doing it is crazy rough.

>>92725

He was sedated from the waist down for, well obviously, the knee replacement.

>>92725

No idea how long though.

>>92722

sigh…

Well, yeah I don't think it is a good idea, but I can't stop anyone from trying it. It won't kill you (you know unless some really bad shit happens). There a lot of catheters in use so you can go ahead, just don't do anything stupid.

I know how to use them, and I have instructed others how to use them, but I have never actually used them myself.

If you go ahead it would be good to hear what your actual experience was regardless.

Oh and now onto the fun questions.

Okay so like caths are used on immobile patients, unconscious patients, surgical patients, and patients with healing wounds that could be compromised by the increased moisture. Although diapers are fun you really don't want to pour moisture around a healing wound, bed sores and poorly managed rash can become a serious health concern especially if it progresses far enough so they will cath while healing is occurring.

Now spinal cord injury is rather interesting and is an upper motor neuron injury, so the urinary sphincter is not affected and you dont drip drops. Now if you have a lower spinal cord injury (below T12) you have a flaccid bladder because of this the bladder will continue to fill with urine and will not empty on its own so picture a balloon filling with air until it pops. Because of this patients will use cath on a schedule to empty their bladder so injury wont occur. This is due to the detrusor muscle being unable to contract to induce urination.

Now if you have an injury above T12 you will most likely end up with a spastic bladder. In this case a diaper may be more useful as the bladder will randomly spasm and you will randomly void, a cath may be used with leg bag in lieu of diapers as spinal cord patients have an increased risk of getting skin injuries.

Now what you and most people that think incontinence due to spinal injury are thinking about is a lower motor neuron injury like to the pudendal nerve or the cauda equina where the bladder has full intervention to void but sensation is lacking so the bladder will fill until it spams and voids in large volumes. You only get the drips with a cath because it keeps the urinary sphincter open, or in the event of sphincter damage or atrophy.

I don't know what >>92723 is exactly taking about, unless it involved a spinal nerve block that took out the pudendal nerve. At the same time they will cath post op patients just because at one time they were to be kept immobile or on continuous motion machines in the case of a knee surgery.

>>92759

He was sedated from the waist down and post-op they had to cath him to empty his bladder, afterwards he could just urinate normally.

>>92764

>sedated from the waist down

I feel like you dont know what that word means.

Sedatives or sedative-hypnotics are a class of drug given to knock people out or put them into a state in which they dont form short or long term memories. This stemmed from the thoughts that most people dont want to be awake, or remember being sliced and diced by a guy dancing to Michael Jackson's Thriller in between waiting for area to drain (there is a reason you aren't allowed to record surgeries secretly) and there are some complications that can result from their use. Now you said it was only his waist which means it was most likely a local anesthetic.

Now the other thing they will do is a nerve block to numb out or paralyze an area for surgery with an anesthetizing substance. For the knee they would want to take out the femoral nerve. So they would most likely do a femoral nerve block so they can conduct the surgery with less complications that would occur with using a sedative hypnotic.

Now I did do some reading in case I was mistaken and the only case I could find of a local pre surgical sedation technique causing incontinence was 2 cases where they performed hip surgeries and it involved a sciatic nerve block. In this case report both regained continence after some time.

I think you might be mistaken about why he was catheterized which may have been for several reasons probably do to post surgical guidelines requiring no weight bearing or an inability of him to leave the bed probably do to draining or not wanting the limb in a dependent position. It also could be for liability reasons.

Need more happy ending stories

>be me

>backpacking through aussieland

>end up getting trapped in the sheepfarm that I work with

>have a supply of molicares, a paci and a basic onesie

>impossible to enjoy because I never have privacy and the bathroom is extremely small

>everyone else who stayed at home gets to go on long journeys of 24/7 experimentation, going to bed padded, sleeping while listening to hypno

>I shovel sheep shit from 5am to 3pm for minimun wage

>saving up to buy a gun and blow my brains out

not really, just mad with chinese filthy people

Is any other anon suffering like this?

>>93769

Sounds rough.. at least you'll have an interesting story out of it?

quarantine 24/7 has been pretty good so far, wearing thick diapers as long as they'll last, not worrying about anyone finding out

>>93775

I guess, it is proving to be quite an interesting take on what I consider to be a priority in life and how little comfort I can live without (no super fast internet, no expensive gaming pc nor console set up, no bookshelf filled with anime figures, no tons of sugar or junk food, and so on). Having a fridge with food, a warm bath, a clean set of sheets for my bed and a hot coffee when I wake up seems to cover all the basics, its just that there is this nagging feeling in the back of my head that my need to favorite stress output but I cant have it and I dont know when I will be able to enjoy it, being able to relax in a diaper in my living room while coloring and watching disney movies while drinking from my bottle is something that feels so far away is a little disheartening that's all. But I guess it can also help me to train to control my urges… although I don't want to honestly.

>>93859

Is this.. CP?

>>93861

What was it?

>>93875

CP, If I had to guess.

Probably 9 or 10 months 24/7 by now, gotta say the worst part of it is the amount of trash I have to carry out.

I live in a 3rd floor apartment, and the closest trash bin is 250 ft from the building, so it's a huge pain to carry it out. And it's so heavy by the time my diaper bin gets full.

I'm about 6 weeks deep into 24/7 and besides kinda getting used to the new normal I hadn't noticed much change, until yesterday when I took a day off. My capacity to hold pee is significantly diminished: getting the urge to go much sooner, only to be surprised at how little comes out. It was a relief to be back in diapers.

>>94404

I live in an apartment with a tiny garbage chute, which is good because it's easy to take out, but will only fit a bag of three diapers at a time.

>>94433

Bladder capacity is very easy and effective to get back tho. Every time when you feel the urge, hold it something like 5-15 minutes and then release. That's it. You can try longer times too if it doesn't feel horrible and anyways you have diapers on in case accident happens :)

When I was 17 I decided I wanted to become incontinent (had been obsessed with it since I was 15). I had experienced continence issues when I was smaller, which I capitalised on (doctor didn't mind I had no medical record of incontinence, as I had two doctors for parents, which meant I had no personal GP). I read a lot of the doctors' manuals and position statements of the medical academies and was able to convince the doctor (it wasn't hard) I had an overactive bladder and nocturnal enuresis.

I wanted an official diagnosis so I didn't feel like a 'liar', which is weird of me but oh well. It's what I wanted, and as the dedicated weirdo I am, I succeeded 100%. Didn't even feel like an act after the first hour with the doc. Whenever I saw her, I had to be examined (not sure why it had to happen each time I saw her?) and that was a full pelvic examination. And it went on I started to wear a bit more openly because "the control's become worse". She didn't counsel me against hem, stince she regarded it as "treatment-resistant" by that point (for real, in most individuals OAB is never cured, it's "managed"–if you had issues from childhood, you're most likely hopeless, so she wasn't surprised). Feel like it was easier because it was still under 'childhood issues' even when I was 17. I'm now 20, still wear 24/7 for 'medical reasons'. Even was offered one when I went for a surgery a few weeks ago; I suppose it must have been listed on the medical records. I'm completely bladder untrained at this point, I pretty much only see the doc to check in every few months. I'm strongly considering bowel untraining but am very unsure, as that's pretty hard to explain to a doctor unless you have genuine nerve issues (I carefully avoided being tested, but if you have bowel incontinence, that's a medical emergency so you'll be tested ASAP). I also think it'd be hard to deal with around others, it's just another level to bladder. I mess every morning so I have nothing against it, but still, it's different doing it in the day in front of others. Bit of a blogpost, oh well

>>95622

What did you tell the docs to get them to believe that? asking for a friend

>>95660

he didn't, it's bullshit. no doctor would go along with this.

>>95680

I find it hard to believe that your PCP didn't refer you to a urologist. A diagnosis of overactive bladder is usually made from pt history only after ruling out other causes and conducting urodynamics testing. What is even more remarkable is your physician's willingness to accept diapers as a first-line management option; especially without considering actual treatment options that are found to have a high rate of effectiveness for refractory OAB that does not respond to ditropan (e.g. onabotulinumtoxina injections, bladder infusions, interstim, etc.).

Does your doctor also diagnose hohodgkin's lymphoma from a single x-ray and treat with a referral to hospice care, cause that's essentially the level competency you just described.

>>95694

Not that poster but that's pretty much what my VA doctor did.

I was given a new PC by the VA cause I moved. Started wearing diapers 24/7 before going to see them. They noticed, asked how long it's been going on, scheduled me for colonoscopy and x-ray. (Told them it was mostly bowel problems) Found like 12 polyps and nothing on x-ray. Blame it on a pinched nerve and potential damage from overseas and bam I got a prescription for diapers.

>>95697

It's my experience with the VA at least, they don't want to find out what's wrong they just prescribe whatever so long as it ain't pain meds.

>>95660

I told basically the truth, that I was having issues holding, and that I had since childhood, although I made it sound worse than it was. Be careful if you decide to follow this route because it's a bit awkward having it be on your record.

>>95673

I assure you, it's not bullshit. If I was making something up it would involve my becoming bowel incontinent and my parents changing me, yet I am not doing that. Because I am being honest. I have a good background knowledge of the medical standards re. incontinence from talking to other doctors and reading position papers/journal articles, so gave a very good presentation that made it easy for her to just give the diagnosis.

>>95680

>no treatment if it's been going on since I was little

That's the same as I've heard. Everything I have read suggests that.

>>95694

Look, I don't know about how it's done there. My doctor said explicitly incontinence when presenting without seemingly any serious underlying issue (like say, bladder cancer or brain damage) is not necessarily a worry. Doctors don't always know why someone develops such issues, and are aware of this. I was certainly surprised how easy it was. I specifically was not ordered to take a urodynamics test because the doctor considered at that age the risk of UTI, that could exacerbate the issue, is too great. I was young-ish (adolescent) so I suppose it's different if you're in your 30s.

>>95697

I was honestly very surprised and elated at how easy it was, and I saw a "very good" doctor (being from a "medical family" I can get referred to whoever I want without waiting, because doctors are happy to squeeze you in as a gesture of goodwill). Don't think it's neglectful, the papers I've read and discussed with the doctor said often there is no solution and as long as patient is happy "managing" it (ie diapers lmao) then there is no need to push on. Even the results of the most extreme interventions (surgery) are not very good. As my doc said: "no treatment is entirely acceptable, especially with you having dealt with it already for so long".

Happy to answer any more questions I guess!

>>95697

I actually have Incontinece issues but they said that Tricare doesn't give diapers. plus wouldn't they be terrible hospital diapers?

>>95728

Idk about tricare and diapers. I'm 100% disabled from the service so I don't use tricare. I showed my doctor what diapers I was using (abena m4s) and told them how many I was using a day and she wrote out a letter and added the cost of the diapers and wipes to my monthly compensation.

>>95728

This all happened about 5 years ago though, maybe they changed something. I'm well unpotty/diaper trained now.

>>95735

who do you have for insurance? Diapers be expensive!

>>95738

I don't, I just use the VA hospital for everything and don't have any other insurance.

>>95743

Thank you.I will go and see what can be done thank you.

>>95746

Any update? I'm from Australia and the government pays for my diapers and related "continence aids", feel bad for you guys!

>>95846

>I'm from Australia and the taxpayers pay for my diapers

FIFY

>>95867

god you americans are so hopelessly autistic

>>95867

Y-you do know that's how healthcare is supposed to be right? Everyone pays taxes and it goes towards medical needs to make essentials / standard health visits free or greatly reduced in price for everyone in the country. If you need to see a specialist you pay more, or if you do some form of nonessential surgery you pay more.

I've no idea why this is such a hard concept to understand for the majority of Americans or why they constantly vote against their own best interests. You can't vote against universal healthcare then bitch and moan because other's are able to get things like diapers for free.

>>95872

The problem is that our country is in the middle of a major ideological divide that has been brewing for the past 300 odd years. If we don't have a civil war in the next 10 to 50 years, it will only be because of either A) a great leader manages to get both sides to pull their heads out of their asses and agree that the only way to counter the far right/far left is to go to the middle ground, B) because the public lacks the resources to wage an actual civil war, C) because I have massively overestimated the overall toxicity and rage of the nation, or D) some combination of the above.

TLDR: the people bitching about not having universal healthcare are the ones who voted for universal healthcare, but our political system swings violently from one side to the other of the political spectrum every 4-8 years, so even when something starts to get done, first of all it gets done in a half assed way that doesnt make either side happy, and second, when the next president comes into office, it gets halfway dismantled, leaving everything bad about the old system but none of the good.

>>TLDR (for real this time): Americans are just as pissed off about our politics as the rest of the world is. Probably more so. Even when we think we're happy with it, its really just a more subtle, passive aggressive way of being pissed off at the other side.

>>95867

American, I am a taxpayer. Why shouldn't I take advantage given I fit the criteria?

BTW, it's not only diapers but many other ABDL and diaper related things too. They don't care what I spend it on as long as it's reasonably related to incontinence. If you ever see me at Bondi beach, in my swim diaper, come say hey! You can tell me how it feels finally being in a 1st world country!!

>>95873

Be quiet, we don't need political talk here. Let's all talk about shitting and pissing ourselves for the sake of our kink, this is after all why we are here, not for internecine American politics. Both your parties are the same anyway.

>>95902

You are VERY clearly the upset person here holy fucking shit dude, calm down it's a fetish forum. Why are all Americans so fucking pathetic.

>>95917

>tfw you have no disposable income left for disposable diapers because you paid it all in taxes

>tfw no response to realizing the only way to enjoy your fetish is to defraud the government

>tfw you still feel the need to pretend it is still a good system

>tfw you realize the only reason Americans look upset to you is because you are a literal upside down shitposter

>>95902

Lmao, do you fit in the tax rates investigation in between wanking to chicks in diapers? Amazing work 'pal'. Please get back to the topic

>>95919

>Pay taxes

>Enjoys roads, parks and recs, ECT.

>Can still afford diapers

What the hell do you blow all your money on to not be able to buy things you enjoy? Figure out what you actually want in life instead of blaming taxes.

>>95921

Wanna try reading through the conversation string again, or is English not your native language or something?

Hi, I've been 24/7 since the pandemic started but haven't had to ever wear in public much, as we've had the lockdown and so on. I want to continue with 24/7 post-COVID, and continue to untrain.

Can someone advise me of how to find clothes sized to fit with a diaper? I'm thinking in terms of buying jeans and so on–I like wearing skinny jeans, but obviously I need more space in the seat if I want to wear it with a diaper and actually be able to use it comfortably (because I don't want mess to shoot straight up the back and cause a leak, or something like that).

Should I consider sizing up (going from a 30 to a 32 inch waist) or move to a different (baggeir) fit?

I am even considering women's fits, since women have bigger asses and the jeans are shaped to their curve? (I feel wearing jeans sized to fit a woman's ass, which is bigger than a man's, is pretty harmless if you do actually have a bigger butt; i don't think it makes you a tranny.) I understand obviously a diaper gives you a different figure and a bigger butt, which I accept, but I want to find a way of going about it that lets me look at least semi-normal lol

And if anybody else has any general tips, about wearing in public, clothing, untraining, or whatever is related, feel free to let me know. Thanks

not really 24/7, but I find when I wear for longer periods of time (i.e days at a time) I find my foreskin and urethra get super inflamed. especially if I try and mix chastity or something, it gets really painful. I've tried like vaseline and powder but it doesnt seem to help. I would change more often but it feels wasteful to not get a diaper close to leaking, even still it's only like 8-10 hours max which includes the time that it's dry.

do this happen to anyone else? or maybe someone has protips?

>>96129

>chastity or something

are you retarded?

>>96129

you are giving yourself an infection use zinc based ointment or an antibacterial cream

>>96119

linen pants

jogger pants

anything thats stretchy and comfort

Ive been 24/7 for well over a year. Im Losing bladder control slowly, but noticeably. Ive Been slowly giving into messing accidents lately too. Shockingly not hating messing at all. I absolutely love diapers and want to stay in them still. I haven't experienced a drop of interest that some talk about.

Whats everyone else's progress looking like?

>>97472

Combining 24/7 chastity with diapers is resulting in a pretty interesting experience. No purge cycle keeps me more honest. Not a lot of other updates.

>>97499

My mommy wants to put me in chastity but I'm unsure about chafing. Do you guys have any experience or recommendations with chastity cages?

Anybody know how long it takes to lose control and not even realize you're going in the first place? I've heard lots of stuff between 3 weeks and 4 months. I'm a little new to this and and want to go 24/7 for a month or 2 but I don't want to end up unable to hold it ever again. Also does it take longer to lose/gain bowel control or bladder control than the other or do they go out at the same time?

>>97879

It depends on how you handle being 24/7.

If you constantly leave your bladder open and focus on going everytime you feel even the smallest signs of having to potty your muscles will weaken much faster.

If you hold it some and push out urine to flood your diapers, instead of just letting it dribble out, then your muscles won't weaken that much.

I've been 24/7 for years, I didn't notice any real loss of control for at least 2 years when I started consciously leaving my bladder relaxed, my bladder did of course shrink and I had to rush to the potty but I still had control.

In my experience it takes longer to lose bowel control that bladder. Simply because of the effort required to mess vs letting pee dribble out.

>>97884

So if I completely relax I'm guessing I'll start bedwetting at 2-3 weeks, complete bladder loss at 4 weeks and bowel control loss at 5 weeks for example? But if I keep holding it in I'll keep my continence for a few months?

>>97886

lol no

Expect it to take at least six months unless you already have continence issues

More likely it will take several years

>>97887

>>97884

I just want a set in stone answer for how easy it is to lose control, how long it takes, and how easy it is to regain my continence, because even though wetting and messing myself randomly seems appealing, I gotta make sure it's possible so I won't stay in them forever.

>>97888

Nobody is able to give you that answer because every person and their situation is different.

I'd say (>>97884 here) no it isn't easy to lose because it's one of the first things you learn as a child and is such an ingrain ability. It takes dedication and hard work to lose continence. The same is also true for if you try to regain control, you have to practice at tightening your muscles in order to rebuild the strength you used to have.

It isn't just something where you wearing diapers is going to cause you to lose control, you have to work on getting your body used to letting go while in different positions and constantly check and make sure your muscles aren't tight.

>>97896

>>97896

Welp time to wear 24/7 for 5 years and still be continent lol

>>97888

There is no set in stone answer. Every copy of incontinence is personalized.

Losing control is sort of a brain/habit thing more than it is to do with weakening muscles or whatever.

If despite your pragmatic reservations you convince your dumb lizard brain that peeing and pooping whenever the body feels the need is both pleasurable and relatively stress free, then that will slowly become your new normal.

If the idea scares you and you aren't peeing whenever you feel the slightest need, I think you'd be fine for one or two months. It could very easily take longer than that even if you were actively trying to become incontinent.

It's all very hazy though, no guarantees.

>how easy it is to regain my continence

Regaining continence is a lot more difficult than losing it, especially because you enjoy diapers, so you're likely to always have "maybe it isn't so bad" in the back of your mind preventing meaningful progress.

You also only get like one or maybe two tries at re-potty training, because knowing you've failed previously makes it that much harder.

>>97901

(>>97884) I can see how it could also be habit. I remember during the first year I would wet, know I was wetting but would forget how many times I had wet. It's not that I was incontinent I just knew my diapers would keep me safe. I still had control and knew I was about to potty until a few years down the road when I focused on keeping everything unclentched now I get maybe a 2 second warning before it just comes out. Not that I pay much attention to that anymore. That's where I'm at after 6 years anyway.

>>97939

I'm just nervous I'll decide to go back for whatever reason and I won't be able to control myself ever again, I know a lot of people get turned on by that due to a lot of the fantasies discussed here but I plan on doing a little dip in and out where I'll buy a couple dozen diaps and maybe a onzie and go 24/seven for a few months, so I'm trying to figure out how long I can use them before I'm literally forced to use them for the rest of my life

I've been 24/7 for about 13-14 months now.

I've been using almost exclusively Northshore Supremes, they're really a perfect diaper in my opinion. Most days 1 diaper can last me until lunch, then another one until the end of the day, and that's if I have to go into the office. I have tried better diapers like megamax, but they almost have too much capacity.

I go through about 1 case every 20ish days, really need another one but a series of unfortunate financial obligations have me not able to order another case until Friday, so I'm mostly stuck with depends 3 tapes until I can order and get more. Which I don't trust at work, so I'll be saving my remaining supremes for that.

I have probably all my control left. I still wake up in the night with the urge to pee, and I have to sit up often to do so. I need to drink more for night. I also have trouble peeing while around others, though much less than a year ago, and I have some trouble peeing while driving, when there is much traffic anyways.

One issue I have is timing my changes, sometimes I need to go somewhere(work or social thing) where I need to have a clean diaper before leaving the house, but sometimes I am wearing a quarter used diaper, so I have to change way sooner than I'd like to. I try to plan for it, but sometimes I pee way less than expected. I can pull it off and put it back on later, but usually don't want to.

I haven't used the toilet for either function in months, there has been a few spaces of hours in the last year where I went undiapered, but it was quickly resolved.

I am planning on visiting a friend this weekend, staying at his house overnight. I don't know if I can pull off diapers there, since the amount of privacy is dubious. I can do it in larger houses, where I feel the other people are far enough, but it is far harder when they're in the next room over. I will wear pullups at least.

>>98038

Are you trying to untrain, or just wearing 24/7 for the heck of it?

>>98100

I'd like to untrain, but like I said I haven't tried very hard. If I had to go back to the toilet today, probably my only issue would be bladder capacity.

Untraining would actually be great. I'd feel less guilty about wearing, since they'd be out of necessity (even if my own fault) and I wouldn't wake up so much at night, feeling the need to pee but not able to unless I sit up.

I've been wearing 24/7 since last Julyish, and I am starting to get frusterated by my persistant continence. My bladder capacity is way down, I'm sure, since practically every night I wake up and have to pee, I usually have to sit up or stand up to go all the way. I really hate that there is a gap between when I feel the need to go and when I actually can go.I've tried all year to go whenever the urge arises, but it's obviously not working. I do drink a lot of soda(diet mountain dew) and I'm sure that doesn't help. But last night I did a 4 hour drive, and drank tons of water, I went through 1 and a half northshore supremes on that drive.(I changed right before it) But I still had issues going while driving. i can always go eventully, but if I stop my car I can flood much sooner. I really want to be able to go whenever I need to. I've done so much driving I thought I'd be used to it by now.

I'm thinking the next step needs to be some serious training, like drinking a consistent amount of water(say 24oz for every 4-6 waking hours) and keeping to that schedule so I use more, then drinking a lot of water before bed, and making sure to practice peeing laying down(no standing up), because I need to improve something, I'd like to sleep through the night.

Random question from a newbie, how many diapers do you go through per month if you wear and use 24/7? I get there's different capacities and the amount of water you take in, but what's a rough estimate? I'm guessing 3-4 per day or 100 per month?

>>98543

Sounds about right for me at least. Unless I mess multiple times a day or pee a lot more than usual.

>>98543

Depends a lot, but 3 or 4 is a good estimate. Change in the morning and that lasts you 'til about lunch, change and that lasts you a few hours, change around dinner, then change for bed. Messing for me is on a pretty consistent schedule of twice a day- once in the morning, once after lunch, so I plan around that. It really sucks when you change and ten minutes later fill your diaper. They aren't cheap.

If you use 24/7 the only way to do things is to by buy the case. I aim for around a 1.00 per diaper but most things in my bracket of absorbency are a touch higher unless I get a good deal. Abena M3s and Seni Super Plus. I also used Tranquility ATNs in the past but the plastic was sweaty and my shorts were prone to slipping down over it…

I also own some Depends pullups for working out in, and pee right beforehand. It saves money and is way more comfortable for cardio work. I work out alone in my room and ngl it's pretty hot for me to work out in a not-very-good diaper while incontinent because I have a high chance of wetting without knowing, and Depends get super duper squishy and swollen.

I buy a case of 80 and I go through about a case a month, while also owning a few cloth diapers and using pullups sometimes. So that's that.

>>98543

About 2-3 on average per day with boosters, though I'm working from home and can go longer between changes because of it

>>98438

You're incontinent now. Congrats!

>>98665

Hehe, thanks! If anyone has any questions what it's like, I have plenty of stories to tell.

>>98668

any accidents or embarrassing moments that have happened?

>>98733

Quite a few, sadly…. I handle things a lot better now, but there was a point when I was still in pullups and needed tape-ons but wasn't using them. They could hold one wetting, pretty much, and so after one wetting it was like my protection was gone and I was at risk of wetting my pants… I had the habit of wearing a coat and when (not if) I leaked to my pants, I tied it around my waist and left class.

I'm sure some professors picked up on that but none of them said anything.

Once my mom knocked on my bedroom door and oftentimes when I stand up after sitting/laying for a while I wet. So I open the door in shorts and an already-wet diaper and the floodgates open and pee is just gushing down my leg and my mom is ignoring it entirely, tells me what she wanted to tell me, I said okay and shut the door. Piddle puddle on the carpet. That sucked.

Sometimes I DON'T wet the bed, and that's what I hate, because when that happens, I wake up in the night full up to the brim with desperation, feeling like a little kid who just can't hold it, and the second I move I burst and just flood my diaper.

Holding it at all is a big deal nowadays, if I have to consciously try to hold it, I'm certainly wetting in the next five minutes no matter what, and instantly if I move/cough/lose focus. Just today I was hanging out laying in bed and I tried to "hold it" and even put my hand against my crotch, and it kinda turned me on when I failed completely.

On some level it is pretty shit, but since it's nerve-damage based any healing isn't going to be overnight either. I'm not upset that it's kinda developed into a fetish, because the fetish protects me from a lot of shame if that makes sense. The same sort of happened when I had other experiences with nerve damage in my more formative years and I also think it was beneficial then, to react "haha wow that's so trippy, I can't move it, kinda hot even" instead of freaking out.

Do what you can with what you have ;)

I like being incontinent.

dont wanna commit to 24/7 but i figured people who have trained/are training for it ought to know the answer.

i want to be a bedwetter

is it possible to train to wet the bed without it affecting daytime bladder function.

if so what have peoples experiences been like and what timeframe did it start happening?

>>98878

Yes, I trained myself to be a bedwetter far long before I went to 24/7. Please don't do it if you are only toying with the idea.

When I moved out around 22 I wore every now and then and to bed every night. I loved the idea of bedwetting and would drink a big cup of tea before bed. It took about 5 or 6 months before I got used to not waking up. Before that it was just waking up every few hours to pee.

3 years later I had a job, and my boss had offered me a raise If I could do some remote visit work to different locations spending nights in hotels etc.

I decided i'd just stop wearing at night and ruined my matress. For the life of me I couldn't stop, even if I set alarm clocks to wake up and pee, i'd wake up in a puddle in the morning. Didn't drink before bed, still peed. Barely drank? wet undies.

It slowly started my descent into 24/7 wearing. But trust me, if re-potty training is possible for bedwetting I tried everything and anything to stop and couldn't. It scared me but also made me happy if you get what I mean.

Ohhh.. Not fully. You will always want to wear a diaper, or a trainer, just in case. Going to the potty all the time does get bothersome.

But in the end it's up to you, daytime diaper training is a nessecity for quick bedwetting training initially though! No way around that phase

There are discrete and absorbent daytime diapers for you out there though, aren't the only one on this road. Try Tena Super one size down maybe

>>98968

best diaper for daytime use? I'm using the Tena Slip Ultima (PE) but probably are too bulky

>>98974

I never hear people talk about them, I don't know why, but I love Seni Super Plus. They're just a little less absorbent than an Abena M3, maybe 15-20%, but they don't have that awful wicking issue that gets pee odor on your pants. Cloth-backed (but no wicking issue!), four-tab that are both adhesive and have little velco-like bits so you can refasten them.

And they're a lot cheaper than Abena M3s. A dollar per diaper when you buy a case vs. 1.14ish for Abenas. That adds up.

Being just a little thinner makes them all the much better for daytime wear, and they're still in the same bracket as Abena M3s rather than anything like a pullup. They're my go-to, I buy them off Amazon.

Newly (yearish) medically incon anon here. The fetish came on later and honestly it's been waning recently.

Today I went to the doctor for unrelated matters and she had me bend down to touch my toes and she pulled up the back of my shirt to see my spine as I stood back up, exposing my diaper waistband. She didn't say anything but I have had to talk with her quite a bit already about it all, so it wasn't a surprise or anything, she knows I wear protection. Maybe later it'll be "hot" or something to me but I'm not really an exhibitionist. I was ashamed but not too badly. I'm sure she's seen a lot worse.

Thought I'd say here because I don't know where else I could randomly disclaim that someone saw my diaper today LOL

Medically incon anon again. Today was another sort of milestone that I can't share anywhere else. I was just hanging out in my room and someone knocked on my door and when I stood up, I realized my diaper was messy- and it wasn't like that when I sat down.

At some point I'd messed myself and hadn't even realized.

Part of the nerve damage I have involves loss of touch sensation so I don't want anyone who's untraining or thinking about untraining or forming opinions on untraining to think that this is standard. I'm pretty sure even pre-potty trained babies have awareness of when they mess, if not control. But I didn't notice at all because I both have no sense of smell AND very little sense of touch in my diaper area. And I realized from the weight right when I stood up.

I honestly need to start doing self-diaper checks. That's sort of a turn-on but again, my DL side that's helped me cope with all this stuff is waning recently. Mostly it's just inconvenient, costly, and shameful. Like what a retard. I literally shit my diaper. I mess my diaper everyday now. I use a suppository if I'm going out so I can clean myself out beforehand and minimize the risk of messing in public. I've had a few close calls where I had to leave places to go to the bathroom or I wouldn't have made it, but no real messings in public yet. It's something I really want to avoid.

It makes me feel age-regressed when I'm out in public and have a few wettings (I have 1-3 per hours now) and I'm so hyperaware that my diaper is soggy and all I want to do is find a bathroom to change in. But it's not really ever sexual in the moment, although later on I might come home and think about how that desperation was hot. Just trying to not touch and pat my diaper or pants to check if they're wet too much, trying not to waddle, mentally whining "My diaper's wet, I need to change…." It's such a powerful regressive thought when you need your diaper changed. I have a love-hate relationship with it.

What can be the best routine to start the untraining of my sub? (With his consent, pf course)

>>99265

If they want to and are willing? Just wear and go when you feel the need. Drink water & tea, and encourage he/she when they are getting changed. Keep encouragement up and love on them. Let them get used to it, comfortable with it, and in time congrats they are untrained just as anyone else would be if they decided to wear 24/7.

not really rocket science.

Bedwetting just make sure they are very well padded, use plastic pants & drink 2 nice cups of water before bed. Definitely will make them pee.

>>99265

Define your goals first. What do you (both) want from untraining? Bedwetting? Just being able to wet in diapers freely? Actual urinary accidents/incontinence? Fecal stuff? I highly suggest against developing fecal incontinence, it's really, really worth it.

Best bet is to just start wearing diapers 24/7 and using them exclusively for pee until it becomes normalized and other things in your life naturally adjust to diaper-wearing, i.e. having diapers handy, knowing how to tape them so they don't leak, owning clothes that fit well over diapers. Then, if you go on from just wearing 24/7 to bladder untraining, you'll be a lot more prepared. Fighting against diapers, struggling with them, makes it a lot more likely someone will quit, imo.

You can also use mild diuretics to encourage peeing more often. Nothing crazy, just try having a big water bottle full of dandelion tea or black tea around or even just plain water.

Buy a plastic mattress sheet. I can't stress that enough.

Buy relatively high capacity diapers at first, but not something so thick it's impractical to wear pants over. After a while, when bladder capacity reduces over the months, you can get away with thinner diapers and changing more often, but most people with normal sized bladders can easily flood diapers when they fully void. You'll probably want to try out a few different brands.

>>99317

Really, really NOT worth it. NOT! Bad typo.

>>99317

TY!

Actually he is in diapers 24/7 since 2nd settember.

My wish is to untrain him to have accidents without control (we are under a RACK type of consent), but now he only act as a bratty sub and he usually use his diaper only when his bladder is full.

I'll take the idea for the bottle of dandelion tea!

Medically incon anon here again. Still losing bowel control. I'm on a waitlist to see a specialist. The tests for these things are pretty nasty. I don't expect a good time.

Messing yourself when incontinent isn't like diarrhea when you're sick or like forcing yourself to shit. At least for me it's very different. It's more like I do something, like stand up after laying down, or bend over, or reach up, and then my internal muscles just push and I fill my diaper. I figure a lot of adults have never experienced that in memory.

My ability to "hold it" is pretty much gone. I'm almost in mourning. It's really, really setting in now. When you stand up and oops, I filled my diaper. Then I think, why? Just why?

I need to learn to have more fun with it again. I wish I had a caregiver sometimes who would humiliate me a little or check my diapers or do other flirty kinky stuff. I feel like my incontinence could be of value to someone if the had an interest in it.

>>99436

I don't wanna be horny wearing diapers anymore, I just wanna be comfy.

bumping this thread with a lil question - does anyone have any videos of either themselves or someone else messing their diapers involuntarily?

>>103899

Diy, all you need is a proper enema and a stubborn mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmOwmjz1pJU

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