No.865135
I hope you've been drawing and if not get out a pen or pencil and get to it.
If you need motivation think of all the 2D girls you love who have a tragic amount of art. They are waiting for you. We're all gonna make it so pick up a pencil or pen and Just Draw!
Also Inktober started today. Everyday in October draw something using ink. Get good faggots.
Link to their site: https://inktober.com/rules/
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No.865139
This is the DiC thread but fuck 503chan.
>have to post two threads just to post one
Anyway.
No.865140
Here is my submission for the Oekakitober.
No.865143
>>865140
>mfw are you me
Did you google poisonous mushrooms to?
No.865327
What kind of brushes does everyone use?
I just use the default round one 99% of the time, it looks like shit.
No.865699
Attempted to shade using my ink pens but it went horribly wrong and I really fucked up the face. Also need to learn how to draw hands...and anatomy in general.
Spoilered because it looks awful
No.865704
>>865699
Looks better than my stuff.
Fix your lines though, it's shaky as shit. Do some line exercises and don't hesitate when drawing one.
No.865715
>>865699
It's not awful you just need practice. Her upper body is too short compared to her head, head, shoulders and arms. If she was to straiten her arms out they would go way past her hips. She is also missing an ear and eyebrows. Thighs are delicious though pic related.
No.865735
>>865327
Let me introduce to you my waifus:
1. Pippy pop: used for lineart, sketching, and usually when I require a hard edge
2. Penny pin: similar to above, I've historically used this kind of brush more as a general purpose sketching/drawing brush, and I still do for variety, has high pressure opacity and size curves which makes it easy to draw and erase even lineart with
3. Ghoster: specifically made so it's easy to do fine tweaks to colors because the pressure opacity curve is very low
4. Soft setup: used either randomly for variety instead of 1 and 2, or when I want a soft edge for something (usually as an eraser)
5. Gradient cruncher: used for doing soft and subtle shadows, usually at a very large size
6. Dream of Paint: my main brush when drawing in a painting style
Those are the actual brush names in Krita
No.865770
I'm so glad gnu/linux has useable drawing programs now. Last time I checked forever ago there was nothing.
No.865775
I have a pirated version of photoshop I use for image edition and drawing. I use the default brush for lineart and when I gotta color I lower it's transparency to 25% and use it to blend the base colors with the shade where is needed. I'm sure there are better brushes out there than the default one but I don't know very well how to use them but since I'm biased towards thick lines I haven't done that much experimentation.
In this drawing I know I can add some lines to add detail to the back but I can't pinpoint it well yet. I need study the back muscles some more.
No.865779
I traced once weeks ago after months of avoiding it and now I can't stop doing it.
Have I ruined myself?
No.865780
No.865797
No.865864
>>865735
is that user created brushes? I never see them in default brushes.
No.865915
>>865775
Something is odd about the way her lats transition into her tits.
No.865922
>>865864
I made all of them.
I was going to share them but Krita is too much of a broken piece of shit to export them. It either "fails to make a bundle" or crashes.
No.865960
>>865775
>>865915
It goes into the side of the body for some reason, making it look like it's part of the breast.
Also, I don't think you should be able to see her tits from that angle.
>>865779
I think tracing is fine for study, I'm pretty shit at drawing but tracing has helped me a alot.
Still, the second you trace something the end product is not yours, it's not as much as drawing as it is modifying the original image. Trace only sometimes and only when studying, never when making actual drawings.
No.865998
>>865960
I feel like we need to define tracing, copying and referencing.
Tracing is taking an overlay of some kind and copying a piece line for line. It is generally only recommended for total newfags. The finished product is not yours.
Copying often gets confused with tracing. But there is a fundamental difference in how it is done. Mostly due to the fact you do not overlay the original work this exposes you more to habits and drawing quirks great study for any newfags and intermediatefags especially if they expose themselves to different styles. Will also expose how strong your fundamentals are.
Referencing is taking someone else's work and reimagining it in your own style. You see it everywhere from newfags to masterfags everyone references someone else.
No.866021
Not quite anime but I wanted to practice with crosshatching shading.
No.866041
>>865922
Care to post something you've done with those brushes then?
No.866077
>>865998
I know, but I mean tracing tracing.
Finished drawings are usually kind of messy because of colors and shadows, if I want to, say, use a skull as a reference I first draw it, then trace it, then compare the line art trace with my drawing to make it easier to spot where I fucked up.
Tracing itself might also be good to get some odd angles the human body have. I never get anything good when trying to draw using these angles as landmarks, but it helps to make a 3D model in your brain.
No.866080
>>865915
>>865960
>Something is odd about the way her lats transition into her tits.
Yeah, I guess is the shading I did, it makes it look kind of curve.
>Also, I don't think you should be able to see her tits from that angle.
Yeah, I guess it could show from that angle if they're big enough but definitely not in that shape.
Thanks anons for the feedback, I will try to correct it.
No.866094
>>866041
why
None of it is appropriate in /a/.
No.866096
>>866094
Just post your work faggot.
No.866097
>>865143
I thought those slowly poisoned you, but also made you high.
No.866098
>>866094
This >>866096 , I'm also curious.
Just spoiler if it's not /a/-related.
No.866100
>>866094
Can't you do some fast sketch to test them? It shouldn't be that hard.
No.866101
>>866097
Very few mushrooms will actually kill you. They will however make you vomit and shit like you are going to die. Sort of like getting high on nutmeg sure it will get you high but you'll wish it killed you.
No.866210
>>866098
>I'm also curious
They're pretty generic brushes so I'm not sure what the point is, it's hard to show them.
Also it's worse than just "not /a/", I feel like I might get banned for posting this.
No.866214
>>866210
Oh, that's why.
I like it
No.866254
>>866210
I'm not a furry though Libbie and Nanachi are my sole exceptions but that's pretty good.
There's plenty of furry /a/ content, if you ever feel like drawing something for the thread.
No.866284
Glad to see we're all still around, I've learned a good amount of useful tips from these threads.
No.866287
>>866254
I don't really draw much furry myself anymore, just haven't made any proper drawings since. Trying to get back to it with the weekly theme thread in /loomis/, though I'm already procrastinating.
Recommending that to anyone who's lacking inspiration, by the way: >>>/loomis/10037
No.866659
Should I really bother doing the whole hard learning path with realistic anatomy and 3D models and such, when all I want is to draw anime girls?
I have no higher aspirations to become some great artist, my only goal here is to make art of my obscure waifu since no one else will.
No.866676
>>866287
>worse than just "not /a/"
/a/'s DIC isn't as much about actual anime series as it's about cute anime girls. Your pic is /a/ enough for this thread.
>>866659
Depends.
If you don't mind paint/DA tier drawings, then just fucking around is enough. If you want to go any further though, you'll have to actually learn 3D and anatomy.
3D is the basic of basics, if you can't draw a box turning you won't even be able to draw an anime girl turning her head without tracing/heavy references. Anatomy is the base on which you base your drawings.
You don't need to know how to draw a skull to draw an anime head, but by knowing how to draw you'll know how to make an anime head complete with landmarks and all from virtually any angle, as well as mess around with it and make different yet believable heads, as opposed to the sameface most beginner/shit artist have.
Pic related is one of the nip artists with the best anatomy knowledge I know of, his lewds are great.
No.866680
>>866659
>hard learning path with realistic anatomy and 3D models
Sounds like you're falling for the "stop drawing what you like and draw all this ugly shit for months instead" meme.
There's things that are very hard to learn if you never look at a photo for reference. However you can apply the same 3D/anatomy practice and exercises to your anime girls, there's no need to draw muh realisms and loomis potato heads for it. The important thing is that you learn from the photo or whatever you're looking at, not that you mimic it in a realistic or accurate way.
No.866693
>>866676
>Toes that arch like that
I... I have to ask, do toes actually arch like that? I run barefoot/have considerably more flexibility in my toes than most people I know based on personal experience seeing other people barefoot, but while I can pick up pencils and stuff with my feet, I've never seen long toes capable of elongated movements like the ones I see on anime girls.
No.866705
>>866693
My toes arch kind of like that naturally, except they're stubby.
No.866750
>>866659
>I have no higher aspirations to become some great artist, my only goal here is to make art of my obscure waifu since no one else will.
But anon, if you were to become a great artist, any art you made of your obscure waifu would also be great. If you're going to shoot, you may as well aim for the stars.
No.866754
>>866693
I once knew a guy in school that had toes that were between 50% and 100% longer than the average person's toes. God damn freaky but I don't know how flexible they were.
No.866766
>>866659
The best anime-style art is just realistic art of 3D humans with bigger heads and stylized faces. The more realistically you can draw a human body, the better.
It doesn't have to be tedious non-anime practice either. Just draw whatever characters you want but use real photos as references for their bodies and general head shape. The most important thing is to always be observing and improving no matter what you draw.
No.867191
How do you use references efficiently when drawing on a computer with a single screen? When drawing on paper I can just put the reference on the screen or some stand and look back and forth, but on a screen where showing the image means either not showing the drawing or having to split the screen in half and muddying everything up?
No.867197
>>867191
How small is your screen? It shouldn't be hard to fit them side by side if it's at least 1920 pixels wide.
No.867201
>>867191
You could either have an alt-tab short cut on your tablet's buttons and go back and forth, throw the reference on the program you're using and moving it around as needed, having the reference open on your phone or something, or some other way.
Personally, if it's small or I don't intent to trace it, I just leave krita on the left half of the screen and some reference on the right half. If I'm going to trace it or it's some huge pic that it's easier to move around, I just throw it on krita and have it occupy the whole screen.
No.867202
>>867197
It's a comically tiny 1280x800 and also my tablet is microscopic (Huion 420) so drawing without zooming in is very hard for me
No.867206
>>867202
I recall a program that let you place images onto the screen somehow, but I don't know what that was. I think Krita also had a docker where you could put an image, but they removed it in the latest versions because they're redoing it.
No.867318
>>867191
Well, I just paste the image into my canvas, then just draw while looking at it. Either that or alt-tab.
No.867442
How I draft anything is beyond me. I cannot into perspective.
No.867468
Lets draw some Zetsubou-sensei!
No.867472
How do I into anime faces? I'm starting to get somewhat close to decent, but it still puzzles the fuck out of me.
I never knew a simple v shaped jaw on a round ball face could be so fucking hard.
>>867442
Read perspective made simple. There's a bunch of fluff which you can skip, but it gives you a pretty good idea of how perspective works.
Afterwards use simple shapes with perspective and then draw according from that.
Also, your lines are really scratchy watch Peter Han's video and do the exercises, it really help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk
Lastly, start learning proportions and anatomy, I'd recommend learning line control and perspective beforehand though.
No.868516
>>867472
It is still shaped like a human head. Draw a 3DPD Nip girl and you'll understand the shape of a 2D girls head better. Their are key things like the chin and cheeks that can set your art apart from the run of the mill dA shit.
>mfw those people who draw dA anime shit insist on never even trying to draw 3DPD
>be me
>go to con
>sitting at table waiting for con to open
>see someone drawing
>being the person I am I chat with them find out they are going to art school and ask to see their art
>not awful but characters are FLAT with dA faces
>"Not bad but can always improve. Have you tried drawing real life people and objects."
>"It's my style and I only want to draw anime."
>mfw
No.868518
>>867472
>Read perspective made simple
That is helpful
>lines are really scratchy
I'm used to drawing on steel with a soapstone, unless I'm playing with rulers and fancy circle tools on a draft table, its why my stuff is scratchy looking.
No.868521
>>868518
Yeah get better at drawing confident lines.
No.868523
>mfw time to start Loomis
No.868561
>>867191
>>867206
I actually started working on a reference image program. The idea is basically a very minimalist window that stays on top of other windows and the controls get hidden when your mouse is away, and you can drag/copypaste images onto it and zoom/move them around.
I've never loaded png/jpg images before so I can't tell for sure if it'll work out, but I should be able to make it work with bmp files and copy pasted pixels at the very least.
No.870739
>>868516
I already do, thought I don't know anything about face muscles or volume in general, so it looks really shitty.
No.870828
No.870841
>>868561
>>869670
Cute anon. Out of curiosity, what's it written in?
No.870864
>>870841
>what's it written in
Pure C. I may open source it if I bother to clean up the code someday, would be cool if someone could port it to Linux since I can't be bothered to learn how to handle clipboard/windows/input/etc on it.
No.870903
>>870828
Last drawing I did and the only one where the face looks decent. I have a lot of trouble with complex 3D shapes and volume in general.
Whenever I try to make animay faces I get lost where to put stuff and it turns into those literal V shaped how to draw aneemay faces, pic related was meant to be realistic, which's why it isn't as shit.
No.871513
I drew this a while ago.
I think >>866287 /loomis/ idea of a weekly topic could work here too. It would be a nice incentive to practice drawing about stuff one isn't used to. We could make it /a/ related with themes like "Tsundere" or "truck-kun".
No.871515
>>871513
That's pretty comfy.
No.871519
>>871513
That's one cute snugsmug.
No.871521
>>871513
It's going in my comfy folder.
No.871536
>>870864
Linux is a kernel
No.871706
>>871513
I like this idea. As a sort of warm up while we discuss this more.
Go to /a/ or half/a/ you fucking scum draw an OP picture. You don't need to post it just draw something.
No.871971
>draw eyes that look decent
>autism out and try to fix it
>eye looks worse
Anyone else know this feeling.
No.872007
>>866680
Isn't that the guy from Summer Wars?
No.872720
It's Sunday post your most recent drawing!
No.872722
>>872720
It's all arm studies.
No.872724
>>872720
I've been thinking very hard about drawing something
No.872727
>>872722
Post em.
Here's a grill I drew. Ended up messy as fuck and eyes are a bit off because I went full autism trying to fix things and then making it worse... still cute though.
No.872736
>>872720
Was going to clean it and redraw it a bit but I accidentally deleted the file so this is what I got.
No.872793
>>872727
It's shit, not anime and not nearly as female as I tried to make it.
I can't fucking understand arm muscles, I'll probably kill myself the moment I try into leg muscles.
No.872794
>>872793
Then draw anime and post it.
No.872812
>>872720
Been slacking in my inktobers
No.872878
This might be a little off topic, but do any of you remember the board-tan thread a while back? There were very interesting designs for an Ojou-s/a/ma as well as three variations of meidos. I was wondering if anyone would be able to share some of those pictures so that I might be able to use them as a reference for any future drawings, since I lost all of them after my potato computer finally kicked the bucket. I was also kinda hoping that having those designs posted might renew a bit of creative spirit on /a/.
No.872879
>>872878
Here's what I got.
No.872881
>>872878
>>872879
I also think something like this would be a good baseline for a design of /a/ meidos.
No.872892
>>872794
H-here you go.
It's not anime enough because I'm shit at drawing and shaky as fuck because I figured doing push ups into exhaustion was a good idea yesterday, but at least it's better than everything else I've done before.
Just fucking post you shit.
No.872901
>>872879
>maid doesn't have a pantsu headpiece.
Kind of a lost opportunity there.
No.872924
>>872901
To be fair those were made back in 2014 before the /a/ meidos became The Infamous Meido Yakuza of /a/ Booty Blasters of /intl/ and /pol/ and long before Hoihoi began her Grand Crusade of spelling errors and spam.
No.873636
I came across these on sadpanda, which I thought would be appropriate for the thread.
https://exhentai.org/g/1301579/d233ada90c/
No.873639
>>873636
>click link
> a bunch of bondage hentai
>"Am I being trolled?"
>hit page 4 all those sketch book drawings
Oooohhhhhhh.
No.873870
What's a good way to learn muscles?
I was using human.biodigital, it's 3D, so it's good to learn the general shapes and look at it from different angles, but the muscles themselves aren't that good from a drawing perspective.
No.874030
>when Loomis invented Chad Thundercock and manlet memes but no one will ever know
No.874177
>>874030
According to this 5'9" is the true thundercock, though.
No.874408
It's Sunday post your most recent drawing!
No.874571
>>874408
Is still WIP please no bully
No.874575
No.874638
So I'm starting to read Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton since it's light on the text. I dont quite know how to use these drawing books are you supposed to do something while reading it or something? I always have this issue since I have no instruction while reading it.
No.874649
>>874638
Read through it and do the exercises as you go. I'm looking at it right now and the first thing you should be doing is constructing the figure and then practicing with posing the figure.
No.874652
>>866101
Being poisoned doesn't mean the toxin will kill you.
No.874682
>>874408
Well I started on a Sunday.
No.874707
Want to start digital art. I should just start off with photoshop. Should I get a drawing tablet? What do?
No.874712
>>874707
>start digital
Unless you're already familiar with Photoshop then there's no reason to go through the trouble of getting/using it, especially if you mostly want to do drawing. If you're not already familiar with a program then pick up Krita or SAI instead. Avoid GIMP unless you want to end up hanging yourself.
There's technically ways to make do without a graphics tablet, but it does make a huge difference to have one, there's a big difference in speed and precision and line quality/dynamics that you can get with a tablet compared to a mouse.
No.874734
>>874712
Any recommendations on a good tablet?
No.874740
>>872727
Remind a bit to chaika, maybe because of the thick eyebrows.
No.874754
>>874734
I've only ever used Wacom tablets so I can't say much from experience. There's a thread about tablets at >>>/loomis/1804 which will probably tell you more than I could.
I can tell though that you should get at least an A5 ('medium' in Wacom's terms) size tablet, smaller than that and it starts to become a bit tricky to use. Also the higher your monitor resolution, the more you will benefit from a big tablet. Don't fall for the pen display tablet meme, they're not as good as they sound.
No.874760
>>874734
I have a Huion Giano. It's chink shit and the drivers fuck up it you turn the computer on without having the tablet or the wireless receiver connected, but it's good enough and really cheap for the size.
No.874791
>>874740
Yeah she's cute but I see so many issues especially the symmetry. I am just coming out of a spell where I drew nothing for a month so I am pretty rusty.
>those messy lines
No.874932
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>867443
Reminds me of those transvestigation videos.
No.875086
No.875088
>figure out how to make a decent face
>do it again a couple times
>instantly forget how I did it and everything afterwards is shit
Fuck me.
No.875096
Recently I've noticed I can draw with a lot more detail if I use pencil and paper instead of my tablet. Is this because digital gives you a lot of "shortcuts" and breeds bad habits and laziness? I think I'm going to start drawing all on paper now and then just scan it and color it digitally
No.875097
>>875096
I think it's because you have a better sense of size, plus digital lines are cleaner and don't look as good unless you know what you're doing.
No.875100
>>875096
I'm the opposite, pencils just don't have the same "resolution" and precision as digital, and every time you make a mistake the resolution gets worse in that location.
No.875162
>>874682
Anon, is that you?
No.875341
>>875162
Yeah I'm always around for these threads, they always lift my spirits since i feel less alone. If I'm not posting lewds it means I either hit another no progress month year and coping with depression or busy with life™(read: coping with depression)
No.875672
At a convention panel with some key animators from Japan. Get good by copying stuff and drawing what you might not want to do. As expected of key animators for Idolm@ster and YuGiOh.
No.875845
It's Sunday post your most recent drawing!
No.876034
>get good enough to sell art someday
>"What motivated you to draw when you didn't want to anon?"
>I wanted to protect the smile of a 2D girls in a bad end hentai doujin.
What do you do it for DiC?
No.876037
>>876034
>learn to draw so you can give good endings to manga and doujins and make the best girl win
I have seen the light
No.876062
>>876034
>start drawing for the porn and because it's useful
>stay for the cute
It's a fucking sin how there's not a single drawing of a human petting the automatons from Automata.
>>I wanted to protect the smile of a 2D girls in a bad end hentai doujin.
Anon, you're a fucking saint and I love you for it.
No.876120
>>876062
Thanks anon it's the kind of shit that keeps me going. There are to many waifus and to many good girls in doujins with bad ends who will never get art that deserve to be drawn.
No.876172
>>875341
Have you ever tried making a short story or something like that? Even if just to kill time? With those skills you could even draw your own healing manga.
No.876474
When you draw your waifu and you spend the whole time smiling like an idiot because you love her so much.
No.877245
It's Sunday post your most recent drawing!
will post mine later
No.877417
Everybody knows those shitty "learn to draw manga" books they peddle to us gaijin, but what kind of learning resources do the nips use?
No.877422
>>877417
According to Key Animators copy what you like and practice fundies. If you want to draw anime girls then draw anime girls.
No.877424
>>877245
Finally able to post my last drawing.
No.877429
No.877448
>>877443
>spic
Oh how embarrassing you think I am someone else.
>you suck
You should see my older stuff.
No.877461
>>865135
Simply put, I want to put lolis in a World War One-type scenario, but if I were to ever make that, I'm worried people will think too much of Youjo Senki. More importantly, while day-dreaming about it, I've been constantly reminded of that CWC-tier epic by Henry Darger, which is terrible on my already ravished mental state. Why? Because I know exactly why he drew those girls naked and in battle scenes. The difference between him and I, is that, likely because he was molested/raped, he never grew out of it, and thus the carnage becomes much more graphic, while I grew out of it by the time I hit 4th grade, with the daydreams always being Hollywood-tier in action—never edge-fests, and I never took out my anger, imagining my enemies dying horribly (maybe a punch in the face, but not murder). It's not pedophilia, like a lot of people think. Or maybe it is, I don't know. Annoyingly, despite the obvious similarities between Chris and Darger, it's "okay" in Darger's case because he didn't hurt other people like Chris did, which is retarded, because it doesn't change the fact that the works are just fan-fiction-tier wish-fulfillment stories, and it doesn't fucking matter that he spent his entire life on it (a mere hobby, mind, even if he poured his heart and soul into it). Hitler worked really hard to build up Germany again but that didn't mean shit when he lost the war, did it? I don't mean to rip on the guy, but good grief, they're not much different.
No.877462
>>877461
*To clarify, I never imagined my enemies dying horribly. I did imagine "hurting" 2D girls I thought attractive, but I'd imagine fighting or wrestling with them. Obviously, I wanted to bone them, hear them moan.
No.877463
No.877464
>>877461
While I can't empathize, you've certainly sparked my interest in Henry Darger's work. However, I'm having a difficult time finding a way to download his book. All the results seem to be other people discussing his work, or a movie about his life and his work. Hell, I can't seem to find anything on jewtube or thepiratebay. You don't happen to have a link? Failing that, what would be a decent way to experience his work?
No.877465
>>877461
Anon... just draw.
No.877469
>>874030
>Emps is not even 9 in his most famous depiction.
No.877470
No.877471
>>876474
Damn good choice, mah nig.
No.877478
>>877469
Coupled with the fact that those spess muhreen boots are probably adding some extra height, it really makes you think.
No.877481
>tfw PC is dying and can't play vidya anymore unless it overheats and hard crashes, not even summer time yet.
>cintiq broke down
>more debt then greece
I may need to start taking commissions soon.
>>876172
I always wanted to do draw lewd manga, at least before I improve enough to look for professional work. I have all kinds of lewd stories I always wanted to draw but can't find the time or I start and crippling self doubt kicks in and I tell myself that I should practice more before committing.
No.877484
>>877481
wow you're way ahead of me. I can only draw faces badly. how long have you been drawing seriously and what do you still want to imporve?
No.877491
What's a good technique to shade skin? What I do is color the highlights first and then start drawing circles around it with darker and colder hues until hitting the shadows, and then just blend and blur the whole thing.
I'm sure there's a better way than this.
No.877493
>>877481
>at least before I improve enough to look for professional work
It might just be because I'm completely shit, but I can't see anything wrong with your drawings, what do you mean by improving?
>I may need to start taking commissions soon.
If you do, just remember to get the money first, most artists start by asking for payment after delivering the drawing and they usually get fucked out of most transactions. Also, selling your soul is good for money, but most people can't handle being soulless.
No.877497
>>877481
Just draw them man. It's not like every doujin artist releases works only when their art is at their peak. Just tell yourself is practice while you give it your best.
I would post my latest drawing but it leans more to A Wyatt Mann's style than animu style. Here's some one I did some time ago.
No.877508
...Am I not normal for feeling like punching whoever it is that says that 'talent doesn't matter'?
The way I see it, talent always matters. In everything, but especially in art. If you start from zero, you can practice by learning what talented people already do and make something decent, but in the end, even if you have practiced for eons, all you'll end up producing is just a mix-and-match of what talented people are already doing.
And the only people you can wow are people who are clueless about it anyway. Those who are already refined in their taste for artworks will just laugh and call you a poser who doesn't create anything original, only what other people taught you. It gets worse because you can't copy someone else's style 100%, therefore yours is, and will always be, a watered-down version of talented men and women.
I made peace with myself after years of abuse on DA and ConceptArt and finally decided that this shit isn't meant for me. My only regret was to not realize this earlier and spend my youth building other skills I can actually use for the benefit of myself, family and community.
Yet it fucking GRINDS me whenever I read or hear someone saying 'talent doesn't matter. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'. 'Talent doesn't matter'.
FUCKING LIES!!! ALL OF THAT!!!!!
No.877512
>>877508
Post your shit anon.
No.877513
>>877508
Is this copypasta?
>If you start from zero, you can practice by learning what talented people already do
Guess how they got to be talented people.
> all you'll end up producing is just a mix-and-match of what talented people are already doing.
You might have heard people also say that all art is unoriginal. That's true, and that's fine. It sounds to me like you're complaining more about originality than talent here. Even if you deliberately set out to copy what other people are doing it, the very fact that you're taking inspiration from multiple different sources and invariably putting your own spin on it just through plain human imperfections means that you'll end up with something that is entirely unique. Even if every component of your art is borrowed from someone else, the sum of all the parts is still a unique arrangement and that's how it will come across.
That's not even mentioning that something doesn't have to be that unique to be good. People also appreciate technique and skill as well as originality. You can do something that someone else has already done and just do it better and that'll still be worth something.
As for the next paragraph I'm just going to say that if you're drawing as a hobby and don't expect to do it in a professional capacity, why would you ever give a fuck what other people think? If you want to become a professional, then you've already picked the wrong horse to bet on if you think you'll get anywhere in the ugly degenerate western art scene by drawing in the Japanese style, and if you have ambitions of doing the kind of work Japanese artists do then not only have you bet on the wrong horse, but the racetrack is in a different country and gambling is illegal in yours.
This isn't an excuse to turn a blind eye to criticism, mind you. I don't know what kind of "abuse" you had to endure, but generally it tends to fall under two categories of either genuine useful criticism, which might not be phrased very friendly sometimes but if you're taking insults directed towards your art personally you're doing it wrong, and also meaningless mean-spirited insults which as we all know you can just ignore on the internet.
Point being, stop beating yourself up over it, do the work and try to find the fun in it. "Talent" is something you make for yourself by experimenting, sometimes successfully, very often not. And talent is very much optional if you're purely interested in drawing in order to make money, in which case you shouldn't be having moral qualms about having to wow clueless people. That's what anyone who tries to sell art does.
No.877515
>>877508
Reminder that talent doesn't mean shit if you don't practice.
No.877516
>>877508
Of course talent matters, but it's important to make a distinction between it mattering and it being a requirement. Anyone can make it without talent, it just won't be as easy, especially if you aren't particularly passionate about drawing and/or are doing it for the sake of some future job prospect.
I think there's 2 huge misconceptions people have about learning.
The first is about what "a lot" is when talking about how much one draws. To someone, drawing an hour or two every day is "a lot", but to someone else drawing several hours every day is little. Someone really passionate or hard working is drawing 10+ hours every day without even thinking about things such as talent or whether they're drawing enough. Meanwhile some lazy ass thinks having a 7 hour drawing spurt every other weekend and then scribbling a little bit every now and then is a lot.
The second is about what "practice" means, and there's 2 aspects to this. It seems like most people think practice means brainlessly grinding boxes and shit for months straight...in order to learn how to draw anime girls. To me 'practice' is the search for the right solution, to fill the gaps in what you don't know, and fix the problems in what you do know. I don't think there's any meaning at all to drawing boxes if I'm not thinking hard about it and trying to find the right way to draw it. I also don't think it's useful to practice boxes and other equally vapid shit if your goal is to draw anime or whatever. If you want to draw anime, you better practice anime. That's not to say you should ignore fundamentals, it's to say that you need to apply fundamentals to the thing you want to draw, not some arbitrary other thing.
No.877525
>>877515
There is something about these simple videos of people with passion saying simple things like don't give up or practice more that just breaks my heart.
No.877527
>>877525
Then maybe you should be practicing! If your art is shit then figure out what is wrong with it and practice! You don't improve by lamenting your lack of talent you improve by working on your weaknesses! Finally you need to find a fire to say I am going to draw even if my shit sucks and the whole world hates my shit because I (you) want to draw things you like. All I want to do is draw anime girls and mai waifu I don't care about the finer points of art or if what I am doing has a meaning I just want to draw cute girls! So stop fucking whining, post your shit, take the criticism, and get good faggot!
No.877529
>>877525
Then go fucking practice you cunt.
Practice until you're able to put the anime girls you imagine on paper, then practice some more.
No.877537
Remember the crabs always want to pull you down especially when you show an ounce of improvement or drive.
No.877540
>>877537
Jokes on you anon, I don't live near the sea!
No.877542
>>877540
Then what's your excuse?
No.877543
>>877540
Heard you were talkin' shit like I wouldn't find out.
Back into the bucket with (You).
No.877544
Hey, how do you guys draw slav squat properly? In front view. I tried multiple time but never imagine this single pose bring to much trouble.
No.877568
>>877561
Where are my Sunday posts you lazy niggers.
No.877570
Is that zyzz? I hope he's been doing well
No.877574
>>877568
My self-doubt kicked in and I didn't draw shit
No.877582
>>877574
That's the whole point of Sunday posting to help conquer self doubt.
No.877594
>>877544
It's because the butt is lower than it looks. I had lots of trouble getting it right too. It's pretty similar to the way delinquents sit so you could use delinquent manga as reference.
No.877598
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>>877568
H-here, it's all fucked up though.
Fuck every single muscle in the human body.
Also, good ol' arms in the back technique.
No.877602
>>877598
>pelvis too forward
>ribcage too small
>ribcage and pelvis too far apart
>arm too thin
Fuck, the more I look at it the worse it looks.
No.877603
>>877602
Just fix it anon.
No.877604
>>877602
It actually looks pretty fine, it may not be exactly accurate but is really close. Just keep trying.
No.877606
>>877602
Anon it looks good I'd fap to her. How about you just finish it and fix those minor things I think you have the opposite problem of most and think every single thing you draw is pure shit when it would be considered above average in most circles. Like I said how about you complete her draw a face, give her clothes, finish the hair and post it.
No.877613
>>877582
Well I drew this today
No.877630
>>877602
Color it blue and turn mistakes into miracles
No.877840
>>877603
>>877604
I tried. It looks better.
Nose scars are cute as fuck.
>>877606
>Anon it looks good I'd fap to her.
Thanks, that's unironically the most encouraging thing I've ever heard. Probably because I'm picky as fuck for my own porn.
>How about you just finish
This is as far as I can go.
>>877630
>diapers
No.877847
>>877491
Don't lower the saturation that much it turns black.
I'd start with dark eventually adding darker tones and then lighting incrementally.
Background color does a lot so careful when you pick near black or at least go for pure white background if you're clean at line sharpness, coloring, and gradient theory that it'd stand out without any problems on plain background but if that's not your thing go with messy 'paint' style and only draw to master color theory for about thousand hours that is if you are confident with your line art or shape silhouette theory.
Don't just pick darker or lighter shade from the same color. Turn the color wheel left or right. Assume there's only warm/yellow or cool/violet colors. Most of the time sliding near the violet by about .5cm then picking a darker shade looks better while sliding near yellow for lighter shades are also great but note that the background should influence the general lighting.
Green is pretty advanced though so you should try it too.
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No.877853
>>877508
Talent is real. Some people are just much more intelligent and more discerning to themselves while others overestimate their performance. I bet the latter even thinks of sweets as some holy grail to them because they self-proclaim themselves as 'Hollywood' textbook geniuses.
Dumb people fall for the hard work meme. It fruits nothing but repetitive wasteful practice that eventually leads to weirdly biases. This is why some people can become the next a-tier artist after a month of shutting themselves while others can spend 10 years with no utter improvement not to mention the style didn't even change (like that DA pokemon guy).
Intelligent people know when to stop and change, when to ask for criticism or advice, when to publish, when to build or break boundaries to set foot on new creative styles but most importantly they're building a strong and impeccable foundation.
>muh style
Unless you think of finding your own style as not a fun thing to do. Talentless hacks like copycats become vermin eventually - stealing other people's works like a kike.
Some artists are lazy but they make good stuff even though they can only trace pictures for their backgrounds and cannot handle CAD work, others also use design doll like plague. It's only the time when you think this is never a serious battle that you lose your life in the battlefield.
>you can't copy someone else's
Explain why there are still people selling fake masterpieces and fooled everyone that it's the old master's works and made millions out of it though they're technically better than the old masters. I remember that guy got caught when forensics found he used titanium white when it didn't even exist during the original painter's timeline.
>My only regret was to not realize this earlier and spend my youth building other skills I can actually use for the benefit of myself, family and community.
Your only regret was never finding out what's meant for you that lucky 'talented' people found at the beginning.
>Talent
Yes. Talent matters a lot even in any kind of battlefield.
No.877856
>>877853
Anon I feel your heart is in the right place but what you wrote makes no sense.
>>877840
It looks good I think you need to mess with more poses because it looks stiff. Also round those tits out they need some work.
I RECOGNIZE THAT BULGE!
No.877857
>>877856
Development requires a person to know when to apply heat, and when to apply coolness, when to stop and reconsider, when to act and move, when to believe and work, when to disbelieve and not work. Essentially, improvement is about finding the correct environment for the seed of talent to grow. Constantly changing and adapting to your needs, and not to a predesigned and poorly thought out format of growth, is the key to success. The difference between someone who works hard and someone who works smart, essentially. Dumb people would eventually get good, but smart people want to get good now. It's not a race, but a step by step process of achievement. There are no goals but instead the correction of deformity.
That's probably what he means.
No.877890
>>877857
I don't think that's what he meant at all, but it's the correct way to interpret it.
>>877853
Talent is just being good at intuitively finding the most efficient way to accomplish your goal, but hard work isn't a meme. It's just if you have shaky hands, you can either find a way to compensate that (such as digital art) or you can spend years to accomplish the same result as someone without shaky hands. Talent is just understanding your own limitations and working around them instead of trying to bludgeon your way through, and in some cases you will still have to bludgeon your way through. Tiger Woods was a very talented golfer, but he would suddenly have a poor season for a year or two all the time because he identified a problem in his style but had to use brute force/hard work to fix the problem. After fixing the issue, he'd come back the next season as a much better golfer. The same eventually happens with art where you hit the limitations of what you're good at and have to legitimately put in the hard work to at least bring your poor skillsets to a level that your talent can compensate for. I'm shitty at drawing and will likely never be good, but I can do minor edits in photoshop programs or CAD work because even if my hand is unsteady, I'm detail-oriented. For instance, I'm very talented at doing quick and accurate calculations for simple things, but not good at complex thought processes when it comes to, say, fixing a machine. Instead of trying to identify the specific problem that a person good at remembering that sort of stuff would do, I instead have to break it down into individual smaller problems and troubleshoot each one individually. The end result is it takes me longer to fix something, but it's much more accurate and well repaired when it's done, and I fix minor problems much faster than the technician who fixes major problems quickly.
No.878058
>when you get tired and everything you draw is shit then you get frustrated and draw THAT BULGE
No.878060
>>877853
Working hard amounts to nothing if you're working hard the wrong way, that's why having a nice foundations is important.
While i was still studying, I met this girl who would draw all the time, every time I'd peek at her notebook, she was drawing some stuff and by the amount of time she spent doing it one would think she was quite good at it. Funny enough, her drawings were utter shit. She would keep doodling giant headed animu boys and girls with small trunks, legs too long and arms too short plus sausage hands, her coloring was flat as fuck and the shading was all over the place. I told her to learn body drawing techniques, about folds, perspective and proper light angles if she wanted to improve but she looked at me and said "It's alright, I'm trying to develop my own style" I told her to suit herself and left, she wasn't my friend or anything so fuck her, she was an annoying weak-willed shy girl and people would walk on eggshells around her, they would even praise her shitty drawings because they didn't want to deal with her sobbing. I was the only one who was strict with her and surprisingly enough, she told me her deviantart profile when I told her I sometimes checked tutorials from there. Her drawings there were as bad as the typical shitty deviantart user and her comment section was full of spergs praising her (probably because vagina). I linked her to some tutorials from the site I thought could help her improve and but she didn't answer.
It's been like 6 years already and I remembered her the other day, checked her deviantart and I wasn't surprised when, even after all these years, her art was still absolute garbage. Tons of drawings and each of them was bad, just a bit above sonichu tier. I messaged her asking her how she was doing and if she ever checked the tutorials I linked to her, she said "Nah, I'm doing fine" so I told her "You haven't improved at all" to which she responded "Fuck you" and that was the last thing she said to me.
Foundations are important.
No.880326
I-it's sunday.
Where's the usual anon?
No.880330
>>878060
You gonna say all that and not post her deviantart to see these pearls?
No.880346
>>880326
Might be out on vacation or something
My work week sucked so I drew this shit
No.880348
It's Sunday post your most recent drawing. Had one of those days where I forgot what day it was. A little art block all my shit has been shit like worse then usual so this is what I have.
No.880355
>>878060
>>880326
At least post us a little sample of some kind.
No.880470
>>880330
>>880355
There you go.
https://www.deviantart.com/vanitastamix-blade/gallery/
Her drawing style is all over the place and whatever looks more or less decent is either a pose she has done ad nauseam(looking to the front with hands arms in the back) or is some vector art that reeks of tracing. If you compare her latest drawing which was from 2017 to older ones, there's almost not progress, specially her shading. After seeing her gallery, I remembered why I hate chibi so much.
No.880485
>>880348
Is this something I should recognize? I can't quite put my finger on it.
No.880496
>>880470
I can't hate that art style.
It's completely shit, yes, but it just reminds me of that proto-animu flash porn I used to jerk off to years ago.
No.880571
>>880470
Don't blame her. It's her fault for choosing to wallow into false praises of small unrefined crowd to pander.
I've seen many artists who fall into this abyss. Usually those fakes who trace and do charcoal of Morgan Freeman or something requiring keen eye on details. They train themselves to be a copy machine and receive praise and that's the time where they fail (shame that they're very well invested with art kits). They can't even draw a simple and cute emoji if you ask them.
One can copy a bridge after seeing it and then build one themselves but no one will use it and it will be a dangerous one to cross.
Talent is knowing that using the strongest materials is the best way even employing new techniques to make it even stronger than what they observed but more importantly it is tailored to be safe to what will be using it. Knowing the best solution or formula to get a better answer or create something that is at least good.
Talent depends on how you observe and remember, putting things together to get new and different outcomes but also improvement or mastery of style.
Anyone who is able(d) can do hard work and if hard work truly works like magic then anyone could then master anything but that's not how reality works. There are those good at singing, drawing, or dancing (cooking and martial arts is a different thing though since you can get good with enough training, just don't let yourself be discouraged after cuts and burns). I find it sad how there are artists who had lots of free time to train themselves (lots of works too) and then never get good. It means they are lacking the level of observation which could be solicited from other people that aren't giving "false praises". It's easy to get true criticism, find a better artist than you and ask them to tell you honestly what is wrong with your work while saying you'll accept any criticism they'll throw at you.
My only tip is to either develop better memory and observe more. Observation counts as training. There are immutable patterns. In music it is the tempo, dancing is movement , and in art the immutable pattern is about shape. We recognize shapes first which is why even a clouds can look like something else interesting while an unintelligible gibberish doesn't.
>>880348
I cannot seem to recognize what you're trying to portray there.
No.880572
>>877840
try 5 heads proportion.
No.881071
>>877478
When everyone in that picture is either a primarch wearing special terminator armour or an early space marine, not so much.
Also: early 40k artwork had a lot of thought put into it. This piece in particular is meant to depict the Emperor of mankind at one of his lowest points, and Horus at his highest. Horus stands at the top of the stairs, while the Emperor is walking downwards. Horus has his powerclaw raised, while the Emperor has his claws lowered, Horus is standing fully erect, while the emperor is in an awkward movement downwards, Horus stands in the shadow while the Emperor is glowing etc.
It's all meant to portray the differences between the characters and the situation they are in.
No.881959
It's Sunday post your most recent drawing. I don't care if it is shit you lazy drawniggers.
No.881972
>>881959
>don't draw the entire week
>finally get some free time
>both the tablet and the pen are out of battery
Seems like the more I use it the more the battery lasts, and the less I use it the quicker it is to drain.
Anyway, I found pic related and tried to combine a bastardized version of cross section and my own techniques using 4 heads because it's easier to divide something in half twice.
It's actually easier and faster to draw the ribcage this way, as opposed to drawing a circle, messing around with it, tracing a more ribcage-shaped circle out of it, messing with it and so on until I eventually get something good, which's what I used to do. Not to mention it actually looks better, at least when compared to my other paper drawings.
Also, I do have white sheets of paper, I'm just too much of a lazy fucktard to take five steps and get one, as opposed to just using the notebook to my side.
No.882010
>>880348
I recognize that bulge.
No.882093
>>882010
Indeed, it does appear to be the Βιβλίο του Θώθ.
No.882185
Does anyone else write stuff down to draw later when you're better?
It's gotten to the point where I'm writing ideas for short stories and a few comics despite not being able to draw shit.
No.882187
>>882185
I have countless ideas for stories written down, but any plan/idea for a specific drawing will just make me more and more stressed the longer I spend not drawing it.
No.882287
>>881959
Still haven't finished it tho.
No.882485
>>882287
Looks great. Do you do /r/s?
No.882487
Hey guys I haven't drawn since like 4th grade when everyone made fun of me for my stick figure drawings. I really want to practice and get good and draw my waifus. Any recommendations for books/youtube videos/tutorials to start?
No.882491
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>882487
Here's a good video the give you an idea and break the illusion that you will always be shit.
No.882497
>>882487
Some other helpful advice.
Just Draw Bro. Even if it is one thing a day just draw.
Get a grasp of fundamentals.
Save all your shit good and bad it will allow you to see your improvement.
Grinding fundies is meaningless only through applying what you learned along with trial and error can you ever hope to improve.
Just because your art is shit now does not mean it will never improve. At the same time JUST DRAW BRO is meaningless without learning fundies.
Experiment with different drawing tools and mediums it can give you a fresh perspective.
IF YOU WANT TO DRAW MANGA OR ANIME STYLE YOU HAVE TO DRAW 3DPD JAPANESE PEOPLE.
And finally it is okay to take a break if you start to burn out just make sure to get back to drawing once it is gone. You'll know when you burn out because even the most basic of shit will frustrate you. Don't get it confused with being a lazy nigger who wants to slack off.
No.882504
>>882487
>my waifus
Not knowing how to draw is the least of your problems.
No.882526
>>882487
Post a drawing, doesn't matter if it's shit, it'll tell us what you already can do and what you can't.
No.882558
>>882552
>>882553
>emoticons
>"fam"
>"tag"
Is this bait? Because I'm taking it god damn it.
Where the fuck did you blow in from and why aren't you still there? Lurk more, a lot fucking more.
Though I will give you this piece of advice: don't try drawing 2D until you have a firm grasp on drawing 3DPD. Pics 2 and 3 are both by the same artist, and I've seen many other similar examples on pixiv but I don't have them on hand. Being able to draw 3DPD but choosing to draw 2D is one of the things that separates an artist from the typical deviantart fodder, along with not being up your own ass and having an actual sense of aesthetics that hasn't been ruined systematically by western media.
No.882602
>>882553
>>882552
some more advice.
Lurk Moar we don't use emoticons here and that shit can get you banned.
A cheap pencil/pen and sketchbook should be all you need. A decent tablet is going to run you $100+ while a sketch book and pencils is at most $10 or less.
When you are drawing try to finish the drawing even if you think it is turning out like shit. When it is done don't look at it for a bit before looking at it again. You're mind will play tricks on you kind of like when you are losing weight and make you think your drawing is worse then it really is. On the flip side though as you get better and more able to recognize and correct issue you'll start to notice the actual quality of your old stuff. This is also why sketch books are a great idea because it gives you a journal of your improvement. Which can help a ton if you start to feel like 0 improvement.
Finally we are not a hug box we are more then willing to critique your shit.
Welcome to the /dic/ newfag.
No.882697
>>882485
Thanks, I guess I could try but there's no telling of when I would finish it. I barely had time to finish the shading in that drawing after 2 weeks of starting it and I still need to color it and add finishing touches.
I guess if you want fast sketches I could give it a try.
No.882708
>>882697
I gotcha. Well keep it up. It would be really cool if this /a/ could get dedicated drawfags.
No.883325
It's Saturday let's do something fun. Draw this and post results.
No.883334
>>883325
I'll try it later.
At least, even if I fuck up, I know I won't fuck her up as much as the anime did.
No.883345
>>883325
An attempt was made. Don't like how the eyes or mouth turned out but any more autisim and I'll really fuck it up. Also had to edit out some line I was supposed to erase.
No.883370
>>883325
I have the impression that there's something wrong with the thickness of the legs, she has a nice waist but her legs are so skinny they're almost as thick as her arms. The are also tits are gigantic as fuck and that's probably what's making me feel it's not balanced.
No.883399
>>883370
Figure it out that’s the challenge.
No.883479
>>883345
>post something
>looks way worse then what I am looking at
Nani the fuck?
No.883571
>>883325
An attempt.
I'll try finishing it tonight.
No.883637
It's Sunday come all you drawfags and post the last thing you drew.
No.883664
>>883661
Damn, that's pretty good.
I wish I could into shading.
No.883750
>>883664
Thanks anon. The way I learned was practicing basic shapes first. Practicing with fruits, boxes and pieces of cloth. Drawing simple figures and then try shading them from different light angles.
There are different shading and coloring techniques but to use them one first needs to learn how to properly place the shades according to light sources. That's something you learn from paying attention irl and/or using reference pictures.
Pic related, some fast drawing a did.
No.883760
>>882185
Yes, and it either ends up being uploaded as shitty OC fanfiction or stored in a file to be fleshed out as a original story.
>>883750
Saving that shit.
No.883763
>>883762
Fuck those are amazing.
No.883765
>>883637
>tfw too busy during the week to draw
No.883769
>>883762
So I am guessing that is anon with Asagi, Sakura and Yukikaze but who is the guy screaming in the window?
No.883770
>>883769
Rene "Give her the" Descartes
No.883772
>>883770
I fapped to it so it passed the dick test. Hands need work Asagi's placement is weird. Everything else is fucking great.
No.883785
>>882185
I've got a folder full of text files with specific scenarios for various characters written out.
My problem is that I come up with ideas far faster than I can actually draw them.
>>882487
Try working your way through these video tutorials: https://www.proko.com/library/
By far the most important advice is to always observe your work, find which parts don't look right, and figure out where you went wrong. Keep redrawing those bits until they stop looking wrong. Practice without self-critique is basically worthless.
Drawing humans is just a combination of knowing what shape all the parts are (most can be simplified to intersecting spheres and cylinders) and knowing how to arrange those shapes so that it looks 3D.
3D perspective drawing doesn't require any special talent - once you know the rules describing how vanishing points work, you can draw any basic 3D shape by simply following the rules.
At the start you'll need A LOT of construction lines though. Rough out the body with 3D cuboids, then draw the details using those cuboids as guides.
No.883803
>>883571
Comepletely shit, but not as bad as I'd thought it'd be.
No.883804
>>883803
That's not bad.
The only weird bit are the legs/feet, but those were weird in the original anyway.
No.883861
>>883345
>>883803
>>883762
Considering the response I am going to keep doing this draw a "quality" hentai character challenge every Saturday. The DiC grows stronger by the day now that we have Club Activities.
No.883862
>>883803
Just finish it anon she looks good.
No.883868
>>883861
"Draw this thing" works really well, even better when it's not something that broad and bonus points for being a cute girl.
No.883891
>>883868
The drawing board in 2chan does that a lot, where other people re-draw OP's image.
http://zip.2chan.net/11/futaba.htm
The danger is that degenerates hijack the concept to get free art of their fetishes that nobody wants to draw. As long as it's not too specific fetish shit it can be fun.
No.883924
>>883861
Wouldn't be better to post a image or theme and then have a whole week to draw?
No.883931
>>883924
It's in the design since after a week a new ting is gonna be posted though yeah it probably needs to be said.
No.884114
>>883891
>The danger is that degenerates hijack the concept to get free art of their fetishes that nobody wants to draw.
I have the opposite problem.
No.885257
It's Saturday let's do something fun. Draw Airi Akizuki from Oni Chichi with her hair down and post results.
No.885808
It's the last Sunday of this DiC thread. Probably one of the more successful ones. Post your most recent drawing or sketches.
No.885830
>>885821
She's a big girl.
No.885841
>>885821
Jesus Christ, anon.
No.885861
>>885821
Come on anon, just draw some short story. I know you can do it.
No.885890
>>885257
>>885808
Man, hands are my fucking weakness, that and sometimes I forget how to draw the faces.
No.885895
>>885890
She looks decent.
No.885928
>>885257
I need to learn digital so I can start turning in cleaner shit. Just pretend there is an angry dad, cheering short haired friend and beaming Marina in the background.
No.885949
>>885257
>>885808
Started this late last night, wanted to try something different in trying to figure out how to draw the torso. Arms are garbage and so will the hands be once I put them in.
No.887300
Is the bumplimit 250 or 300?
No.887585
No.887586
>>887585
Thread didn't get bumped so I guess it's time for someone to make a new thread.
No.887588
>>887586
There already is one.
>>887307