No.847402
This week was a Saaya episode. But no one cares about Saaya when rare Emirus are present.
No.847406
Hana has no clue what she wants to do with her life. Which is how its supposed to be for JCs. Episodes with this obvious career pushing make Saaya and Homare feel like university students or late high schoolers who are feeling pressure to decide a career path. Apparently Emiru has decided on being in music according to Hana despite being JS6 and Lulu is ignored because bot. Its not supposed to be a bad thing to be in middle school and have no idea about careers but somehow Hana makes it seem like a bad thing.
Also there was a vague sense of the classic career vs family choice many women make. Saaya's mom chose both and I guess that is audience message. Women can do both and dont need to decide. Even the mild surprise from Hana at a husband who cooks for his wife is hinting at changing family roles where men are more "domestic" and women are "bread winners" compared to a cooking (support role) wife and super popular husband actor (lead role).
Finally, an almost entirely unremarkable episode aside from Lulu being very hungry was saved by one Emiru scene that made me put together that wallpaper in the OP. Heres the template.
No.847438
Meanwhile, on the brother show, Kiva's dad aka Grease gets an upgrade less than 10 episodes before the show ends and is heavily implied to die next week. RIP potato man, may you eternally fug Miitan in heaven.
>>847406
Emiru is more than ready to become an Oni.
But yeah, they're going with that, Hana not knowing what she wants to do. Apparently Japan's education system is quite harsh, you get little to no breaks between middle and high school, and one could assume you get straight into university after that.
Funny thing, I'm currently watching Kamen Rider Hibiki and the main character (well, the kid in the story can pretty much be considered that) goes through a very similar situation. He feels like he has a goal, but at the same time he isn't really sure if that's what he wants.
Haven't watched this week's anything yet but already checked the trailers. We pregnancy now.
No.847452
Thanks OP I badly wanted that cutout Emiru but was too lazy to make it.
No.847472
>>847406
It's not called Hagtto without a reason.
It pushes how girls should focus on their adult life, and act (also look) mature at middle school ideally, Saaya, Homare and even Lulu gets their share of glorification just because they are mature, whereas Hana being the childish one without any future in mind is constantly depicted in a negative light. Of course the series is going to end in a way she herself matures too, and all is good.
No.847529
>>847438
> Apparently Japan's education system is quite harsh, you get little to no breaks between middle and high school, and one could assume you get straight into university after that.
Yes they do not have a 3 month summer break like in American and British education systems. I think graduation for them in mid March and the new school year is in April after some national holidays. I'm judging this by the graduation and new school year scenes that all occur when sakura is still on the trees.
With such a continuous system students do not really get much self-reflection time. Before they know it they are at the career choice part of middle school where they can go to a specialized high school or university affiliated high school to prep for a career they will not hold until some 10 years later. It is quite insane but thats the system they have to live with.
No.847679
>>847472
>It's not called Hagtto without a reason.
You're the only anon who calls it that. Stop it already.
No.847683
>>847406
I don't give two shits about the career parts, but I love stuff about parents and children reflecting on each other and the continuance of generations. Very healing.
No.847838
>>847679
>I don't call it Hagtto without a reason
Fine then, fixed that, but the point stands.
It's a damn propaganda about how mature, serious, motherly girls are the only way for a girl to be.
No.847843
It's nice to see that Maho Girls and Kirakira could save the franchise and reverse the trends after what HaCha and especially GoPri did.
No.847885
May as well make the rare post about Kiratto Prichan. The introductory fun and games ended and we finally got back to more Pripara like content with a !GrandPrix. It seems the focus for now is on building PriChannel as a world with its own background with these older idols and designers. Overall its growing on me and we really needed Anna and Sara to be relevant as idols and not gag antag of the week for Mirai and Emo to shine.
No.847887
They also started doing lewd things to each other on camera
No.847888
>>847885
Yeah, it might actually become a nice watch slowly but surely. The beginning was fun and all, but it felt way too shallow.
No.847890
>>847888
They need to go back to the old style of concerts when they had just glow sticks and shadows. The extras should not have to suffer this much.
No.847891
>>847890
We also need Hikaru to step up her little sister game.
No.847893
>>847891
At some point she will become an idol. Just a matter of when and who her partner(s) will be if anyone. i dont think she will be as good as Non
No.847970
Now I'm up to date. Wasn't really a bad episode, the point was that even with her talent and skills Saaya still isn't certain on what road to take read: Minami from GoPri, and that even adults try to improve themselves or something. Reira not being good at mom is adorable.
Kinda feel bad for bootleg Ranko, but at the same time I hope she gets more cameos as leek-related things. I did laugh at the staff's initial reaction to the oshimaidaa.
Meanwhile on Build, Kazumi goes full circle and has to kill clones of his former friends, since he doesn't really have a reason to fight anymore. The Last Supper before the final battle had its seemingly final comical moment before going full serious as they are going to fight Evolt also yes, the white panel and parallel universe theory is probably going to be the hook for Zi-O.
Grease Blizzard looks much better than the original, must be either the new color scheme or the better helmet since the transparent parts of the suit didn't really look that good. Too bad it isn't going to last.
Speaking of Zi-O, it's basically going to be Decade 2.0, possibly with even worse writing since they actually got the guy from Ninnigger. Good fucking going for the 20th and final Heisei show, Toei.
No.847974
Do you guys little girls own any Precure merch?
No.848155
From Cinema "The Pair Is Pretty Cure, Max Heart"
No.848229
Fuck. I haven't seen a translator note in anime for a long time. That one made me laugh so hard, I nearly chocked.
No.848352
>>848158
>>848160
God damn were they a couple of autists.
No.848421
It rubs my autism just right when they arrange Cures by color.
No.848573
>>848421
It's meaningless when they don't include "non-Cures" like Dark Cure and Kaoru&Michiru. That is not the case here so all is fine. The only way it could be better is if they included the mascots somewhere.
No.849005
Japanese rise is the best taste in the world!!
No.849060
>>849052
This one and the other one that makes precure blobs always cracks me up.
No.849082
>hugtto tag getting lewder and lewder as C94 approaches
No.849125
>>848421
Should Happiness Charge Innocent Forms be next to white?
No.849145
>>849125
Special forms shouldn't be on there at all. Also it triggers my autism to have black & white anywhere but the center.
>>849052
Would you a hungry Ruru?
>>849060
>>849082
Would you watch a hungry Ruru lewd a Emiru?
No.849149
>>849052
>>849145
Hungry Ruru is an unstoppable force.
No.849753
>>849752
Hell no, the left arm looks broken and the head looks like it belongs to another kig, the only nonohana i'd fuck is depressed nonohana, and even then only if it was prostitution, i only need her tight 13 year old cunny, not her emotional baggage.
No.849757
>>849752
Never ever.
>>849753
>tight
I'd rather some of Emiru's classmates. But not Emiru herself. Ruru can be as tight as you want
No.849761
>>849757
I'd fuck one of emiru's classmates too, this one to be exact.
No.849762
>>849761
Everyone would fuck Kotori.
No.849770
>>849753
>>849757
>>849761
>>849762
What is wrong with you perverts! Thats sick...
No.849772
>>849770
>wrong
>perverts
>sick
It's entirely normal to want to a Nono. So much so that they need world's hugest dad to protect them.
No.849777
>>849772
I bet they know first hand how huge he is, too.
No.849866
So I didn't even realize there was no Hugtto or Build this week. I guess I'm still upset for how Hibiki ended
>staff change (writers and director) around ep30
>introduce the singer of the ED/OP2 to be an asshole that spanks others for no good reason and hand the final upgrade to Hibiki
>we're 30 episodes in and no hint on what the fuck the villains are supposed to be
>introduce a shitty kid whose job is to be a complete bitch but also a dickwad to anybody, especially the main character
>misunderstandings of cucking
>by the end of the show which is said to have gotten his final script during its recording, we had a quitting apprentice, a dead master and our main character actually quitting the prospect of being Hibiki's apprentice and an Oni, despite having worked his ass off and being grown a lot since ep1
<meanwhile this fucking shit kid who amongst other things keeps being a dick even during his training, even trying to fuck with a kid's dying wish because training is serious business despite him being shown to be a weak bitch who takes cabs to win at a race and stealing an amulet that summons fire, skips school even after being told to go back by his own master
<Asshole kid actually becomes an Oni despite getting fucked the first time trying the henshin device, while our main character just quits to be a doctor or whatever
>it was planned that actually both kids turn into oni but one of the suits got scrapped to make the other look better
>The oh so hinted Orochi which would destroy everything, gets actually sealed before even making an appearance
>The pair of main villains that made all the MOTW so far is actually the mascots/experiments/generals of yet another pair of villains
>most plot points about Hibiki's origins got dropped and/or explained via dialog
>the most notable enemy from that part, Shuki (a former oni who was expelled because of her desire for revenge and nearly killing his apprentice) dies in two episodes it does develop Akira a bit but she quits anyway after achieving oni status
That was the worst kind of trainwreck, makes Gaim's final episode look good in comparison. Anyway I guess I'll go watch Drive now.
>>849752
Kigs are majestic, pure creatures. Do not lewd the kigs.
>>849753
Sad Hana is best Hana.
>cunny
I thought /tv/ was dead.
No.849873
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Also, Zi-O's full trailer.
>once again Toei can't into romanization
>the new enemy suits (IE: that Build) being basically huge SIC figures is great
>the armors being a new suit instead of being just the actual previous rider suit with the respective Driver slapped on
>Sento and Ryuga being on the band Taro Sato originally belonged to
<giant robot ready for the sentai crossover/J fight
<written by the guy who brought us Ninnigger and also Gorider which I haven't been able to watch yet
<The driver looked good until the spinning part, that shit looks prone to breaking
No.849923
I've only seen black&white, should I just continue on or should I skip to the next best one?
No.849934
>>849873
It's lovably silly and the Watch motif is very well done. I kind of dig that he's got watch wrist-bands incorporated across his armor and weapons.
No.849961
>>849923
Depends. How did you like FW? As far as I've seen from these threads I haven't finished FW MaxHeart isn't as good as the first since they weren't expecting the show to get that big, especially considering the first show was supposed to be 24 episodes or something like that. Sure, you can skip if you want, Precure doesn't really have any continuity, the shows are pretty much self-contained even if they're starting to adopt the Sentai/Rider custom of having the next pink show up by the end of the show.
No.849983
>>849923
What this >>849961 guy said, you can safely skip Max Heart and Splash Star after watching Futari Wa, from there you can go to HaCha and Mahou just to get them out of the way ASAP i enjoyed both, especially Mahou but they're considered the worst seasons after Splash, Kira and Max, then Yes 5/Yes 5 GO/Fresh/Suite, then Doki Doki and finally the holy trinity of Heartcatch/GoPri/Smile, skip Kira Kira as well, i'd put Hugtto right alongside Doki so you might want to wait for it to be completed to watch it before the big three, DO NOT watch those 3 before the other seasons, trust me, especially not Heartcatch.
No.849986
>>849983
>>849961
>Hurr skip shit
Ignore these trash. Watch it all in chronological order like god intended.
No.850009
Why are the Precures so lewd?
No.850028
>>849983
I watched Heartcatch first and everything's fine. Chronological is best, as >>849986. I guess you can skip MH unless you're completionist. Or if you really like Nagisa/Honoka. Or you're extremely into little blond girls. Do not skip SS, it's awesome.
No.850030
>>850009
They aren't lewd, they're pretty and pure.
No.850046
>>850028
SS was one of the worst seasons, really another Futari Wa, without even trying to change things, the only good thing about it was some of the villains, but it's way overrated.
Needless to say, that season almost ended PreCure.
No.850073
>>850030
Don't you mean pretty and cure?
No.850095
Why do they have to bow at the classes as if they were slaves? So humiliating.
This is the thing I hate the most in japanese schools.
No.850096
>>850095
Yes, such ritually enforced displays are disgusting.
No.850102
One of the best thing about PreCure are the female mascots.
I hope we'll have some next season.
No.850103
>>850046
It has most of the charm and style of the original and improves on pretty much everything except for the MCs. I suppose it is the least interesting series. For whatever reason I wasn't tired of an orange girl and a blue girl holding hands yet and I thought it was great fun.
No.850110
>>850102
You left out the best onahole mascot. Please do not sexualize Hummy though
No.850111
>>850110
Milk is the origination of my loving these mascots to begin with.
don't worry, I even used only official art/screenshot for Hummy
No.850129
>>850096
This picture seems very strange to me. It reminds me of one of the advantages of living in an ex-soviet country.
> no religion in schools
> almost no patriotism
When I was 10, I've corrected the anthem text at the backside of a notebook, changed some words to obscene ones and enclosed some parts of the anthem in quotes. That seemed fun to me at that age. And guess what? Nothing have happened to me, and the teacher laughed aloud after she noticed.
No.850137
>>850096
>>850129
There`s nothing wrong with introducing the concept of patriotism to children, comparing it to religious indoctrination is dishonest.
No.850138
>>850137
>comparing it to religious indoctrination is dishonest.
In what way? This topic isn't really meant for this thread.
No.850148
>>850129
>living in an ex-soviet country
>no religion in schools
<I live in an ex-soviet country
<orthodox Christianity taught as early as grade school or even kindergarten
I guess there's all kinds out there.
>captcha: dnm ape
No.850154
>>850111
Thank you, some things are just too pure.
No.850246
>>850111
After a few episodes of Milk you just want to shut her up with your dick.
No.850282
>>850246
I always enjoyed Milk. I was usually on Nozomi's side when they clashed, but still loved Milk very much.
But yeah, dicking her would be pretty good too, as long as she also enjoys it.
No.850335
>>850282
I liked her too and wasn't annoyed by her. But, thinking kind of in-character, I would shut her up with my dick.
No.850336
>>850335
I would shut her up by embracing her tightly, and kissing her.
No.850960
>>850802
>Yuri
I got thought about this while reading the "sister thread".
Since the current Precure season has those two faggots frolicking about, does that mean we'll get an official BL pairing in the franchise before we'll get an yuri couple? Sad times.
No.850961
>>850960
Nagisa and Honka were made for each-other
No.850962
>>850960
Whatever happened to pairing a boy and a girl?
No.850963
>>850961
But Nagisa loves senpai and Honoka has feelings for that Dark Zone kid.
No.850964
>>850960
Maybe we got one at the same time.
No.850965
>>850964
Well, I wouldn't complain. At first I wanted to state that the sunglasses make no sense but that I noticed that the desgin does make perfect sense for animu faces.
No.851435
>>850964
Thats is just fine. Its a little regrettable that figure skater boy is a crossdressing fag. If theyre going to do BL, having a crossdresser really waters it down. EmiRuru is the light that saves civilization.
Come to think of it other than EmiRuru, Precure doesn't have any prominent implied yuri pairings (I haven't seen that many precure though). Usually the girls each have a guy they like or maintain friendships that do not pick up the yuri undertone themes. The handholding in Futari is the intense "i'm trusting you with my life" type and not the gentle "lets be friends" from other little girl shows. That said, Precure has battles compared to idols so the context is totally different.
No.851442
>There's no yuri
You guys are so STUPID.
No.851487
>>851442
I mainly got old friend vibes from them. Maybe a little yuri over the cakes.
>>851435
Wasn't DokiDoki supposed to be pretty gay? I haven't seen it.
No.851501
The miracle of childbirth episode was left thankfully untouched. I was really afraid something bizarre was going to happen but it stayed pure.
No.851502
>>851501
I want to show a Precure that miracle firsthand.
No.851691
>Episode all about birth
>Scene stuck in the middle where Emiru complains that her stomach is empty
Did they mean something by this?
No.851695
So Grease died, Utsumi memed himself into a cyborg but also died in a stupidly underwhelming manner. Beardo seems to be next. And we got only two episodes left before Zi-O.
>>851442
But those aren't Yuri, those are Hibiki and Kanade.
This is Yuri. You're the stupid one.
>>851691
Emiru wants to be a mother and ensure the survival of her race unlike her brother.
No.851713
>>851691
There had to be an explanation for Harry turning up one or two scenes after the group decided Harry would stay home. After the leeks last week you would think it would be Ruru being hungry though.
>>851695
>This is Yuri.
You and all your favorite cures should feel bad
No.851931
Is there a CureSort like the TohoSort?
No.852848
Another liberal messaging episode. But it was good anyway. Kaijuu Emiru made my day.
No.852850
Toei owes the world two Emiru faces. One in the monster suit and one during the hug.
>>852848
>Another liberal messaging episode.
Its flipping back and forth at this point. Fags. Raising children. Stay at home dads. Pregnancy and childbirth. Anyone can love anyone and anything. Next week is family tradition. Seems like the strategy of appealing to as many as possible to get toy sales. The guitar set probably costs a fortune relative to the other toys.
No.852852
>>852850
>Its flipping back and forth at this point.
I don't know, that middleground seems pretty common for most normalfag politics. Just because they aren't against fags doesn't mean they have to go full "die cis scum, wanting a family is nazi propaganda".
No.852905
I hated this episode on so many levels.
It all begins with absolute retarded mode, that might have flied in a full on silly season like Smile or Maho, but not in a series that takes itself pretty seriously; a dog watching a TV ad [dogs brain can't comprehend television's image], then falling in love at first sight [dogs can't fall in love like humans] with a cat [need I say anything?]
It was also just plain dirty how he was all flustered, it really looked more like he was having a raging, undying boner rather than something more prolific form of love. And they really showed a bit too much dog anus this time.
Then the whola Ruru thing, she was once again back to square one with this love thing somehow, which was bad enough already, but then there's all this Emiru x Ruru love teasing, which is just worse because we know that their love is a friendship kind of love, not romantic.
And yes, we got the other tranny fashion bishounen general to top things off.
Bad episode, shit propaganda season.
No.852929
Bishin is cute. I will pretend it is a female to protect myself. It is a girl, right? was it ever confirmed either way?
Still a shit episode for reasons stated above, but kaijuu Emiru is indeed cute. Emiru is the best. Cure Ma Cherie is the cutest Cure in a while. I want to lick her.
No.852933
>>852929
I looked around just now for an answer. It's a guy, word of character designer. Even knowing that, I'm going to have a hard time with that voice and those face closeups.
No.852945
>>852933
That's pretty wild, given how he has the most accentuated buttshots in the whole series.
No.853029
>>852978
Got anymore movie fights?
No.853041
Not content with Kiva's dad dying, Toei also killed off beardo and Banjou. So pretty much all the good characters in Build have died. Sasuga Birdo. Also worlds literally fuse so we get some continuity out of this.
So this week's Hugtto episode was about a dog wanting to fuck a cat. Also the message was incredibly hamfisted as much as the dog's asshole was, especially when they keep trying to dyke Ruru up. Early 2000's Edge in dog form cracked me up though.
Bishin is okay but he really needs some more than "pls harry come back", and being an edgy hamster fag. So far from the new villains Dr. Dad > Slut mkII >>>>> Bishin, and the BEST MATCH keeps being the saving grace of this show.
No.853061
They are now going for a grandma episode, but it just won't work with girls who basically feel like adult women. No chance it will ever come close to the charm of like Smile's grandma episode.
No.853065
>>853061
>girls who basically feel like adult women
Only Saaya and perhaps Homare. Mecchoku is obviously young and immature, Emiru is a silly little girl, and Lulu is a robot. Even Saaya feels like a young adult prone to bouts of immaturity. All will be fine.
No.853067
>>853065
Don't feed it (you)s, anon.
No.853083
>>853067
>muh (you) feeds
I hope that was your last meta shitpost.
>>853065
Saaya, Homare and Lulu feel like complete adults, both by designs and their general attitude and moments.
Emiru is a joke character, and Hana is useless.
No.853088
Finally gave HaCha a try, i just finished watching episode 20 and it isn't bad at all, i don't know who the fuck said it was the worst season but boy he was wrong, i just wish they gave yuuko more screentime, it's always hime dragging everyone into shit, if i didn't think she was cute i would've dropped the show 10 episodes ago just like i did with Yes 5, fuck that season; ugly artstyle, boring and ugly cures, shit soundtrack, only the villains were good but not good enough to carry the whole show.
No.853089
>>853088
>Yes 5, fuck that season; ugly artstyle, boring and ugly cures, shit soundtrack
Drop your life.
No.853096
>>853088
>thinking it's good
Just get to the second half, and especially the final arcs. Worst season
>not liking Yes 5
But your taste might be shit beyond redemption.
No.853102
>>853088
>episode 20
The real games havent started yet.
>Hime
Shes adorably autistic isnt she?
No.853103
>>853088
>completely missing best season
It's your choice, but you can still correct it.
No.853936
>The PreCure show will never come to your town
>You'll never shake hands with the PreKigs
No.853975
>>853936
God dammit.
They're even more terrifying when they're moving.
No.853981
>>853936
>PreKigs
The thought of Lulu and Emiru being that tall is both exciting and terrifying. I wouldn't go within arms reach of those things.
No.854060
>>853975
>>853981
Ｔｈｅｒｅ ｉｓ ｎｏ ｎｅｅｄ ｔｏ ｂｅ ａｆｒａｉｄ．
No.854070
>>854060
I bet some of the kids cry when seeing the unblinking unmoving faces. Its like a fear of clowns
No.854078
>>854070
I as a kid would have been terrified. I hated clowns and people in cartoon suits. Maybe that's why kigs fascinate me now.
No.854128
>>853936
>>854060
These bring a warm smile to my face and I can't decipher why.
>each kig greets you differently
>they even interact with each other while doing so
>you'll never have Hibikig hug you while she shrugs off other kigs
Why are kigs so magical?
>>853981
It's more of the camera angle+average Japanese height thing, the head makes them taller than they are.
No.854148
I miss the days when all the image songs, OP/EDs, inserts, and such were all sung by affiliated singers, rather than the seiyuu themselves. I really like seiyuu singing and understand it's a cost-cutting measure, but Precure lost a bit of its whimsical charm when they started doing that. Something just feels missing now.
No.854171
>>854148
The OPs still are. I never thought about it, but you're right. For one thing it restricts the music to something that everyone can sing in character, and it feels more like a music video or something than just happy girls dancing everywhere.
No.854183
>>854171
So you feel it too. I don't think it's entirely a negative, but it's certainly harder to recapture the feeling of happy little girls dancing that used to be evident in all ED. I miss it.
>OPs still are
Current OP is sung by Cure Sword. It's not good.
No.854193
>>854183
Yeah, this OP is probably the worst in a long time.
It just lacks both fun, and feel-good aspect.
No.855353
An episode about getting old and passing along just one part of a family tradition. Didn't know sweet potatoes were used for Japanese sweets though. This was also a reminder I never met any of my grandparents before they died
No.855354
>>855306
And like clockwork, next week we flip from traditionalism to modernism with an episode about traveling the world. Expect Lulu to eat everything in sight and there to be some "everyones country is so fun" message. Hopefully Hana's little sister comes along. She has been missing for a while.
No.855373
>>855353
>>855354
Tanpopo was a cute. I liked seeing the family member that Hana takes after, and her recognizing her at the end was nice (funny, the cat's owner last episode knew it was them too). And yeah, Kotori is coming along. She's the cutest girl on the show, so I'm very pleased.
No.855410
Has anyone else noticed that Hugtan has been steadily adding words to her vocabulary? Every week she gets closer to fully grown speech and behavior. Obviously she is some precure god or spirit or something and will be plot relevant later. I like how her development has been handled.
No.855554
>>855410
It's not just her vocabulary either. She gave a very proud 'hem hem' type of thing after Hana congratulated her for pointing out the notebook. She is maturing and understanding subtle social cues. Probably the first time Precure has managed to handle a growing baby mascot well.
I don't look forward to her sudden S3 power-up and battle assistance though. Those are always awful.
No.855743
Build is finally over. I guess Sento and Banjo riding into the sunset in a new world where they aren't supposed to exist was an okay ending. Surprisingly enough there wasn't even a Zi-O cameo aside from the Cross-Z RideWatch thing and the evil Zi-O from the preview looks cool as fuck. RabbitDragon being just CG is fucking dumb and comes out of nowhere but then many upgrades/power boosts do that in Build. Zi-O looks promising enough.
Now back to Precure, holy shit this was a good episode. Grandmas were excellent (both Hana's and her friend), Hana looks better with a ponytail, Ruru's developing a food fetish and won't stop until having eaten everything in the world. Personally I love when characters of the week have a fighting chance against the monster, especially if they're relatives of the main cast.
Also yes, we're stealing from Smile again next episode.
No.855765
>>855743
>Ruru's developing a food fetish
If it has not already happened, someone should sakurafish one of the Ruru faces. That hot dog one you posted could do it. Same could be done with the Emirus from this week.
No.855771
Man I've been waiting for this for so long.
No.855964
>>855765
There's a few to pick from.
No.856250
Nice to see Kyon's becoming a father.
No.856319
Its about time to continue clearing Precures off the backlog. Starting with Max Heart and its movies. Since these series are pretty much standalone there should be no problem watching Max Heart and Fresh together right? Isn't Fresh the one that almost killed the series? Was it that bad?
Which localization retard decided the "Glitter Force" name? All of the titles except FW are already English. The depths of stupidity never cease to amaze.
>>855771
Ever since you posted this its been stuck in my head.
No.856321
>Since these series are pretty much standalone there should be no problem watching Max Heart and Fresh together right?
You could, yes. Why start with MH? Did you already watch OG?
No.856322
>>856321
orz I forgot to click button. Meant for >>856319 obviously.
No.856323
>>856319
Splash Star is the one that bombed. And no, it wasn't bad at all. But imagine you're a fan of the original show at the time, and then they come out with a new season starring not-Nagisa and not-Honoka doing the same shit. You might give it a pass too. Looking back it's maybe easier to appreciate.
But no, no problem watching MH and Fresh. Fresh has best mascot too.
No.856342
>>856339
Echoes elicit a ban. I'm sorry, but you should know this already.
Here's his post, for those wondering:
Saban (Echoes). You know, the ones behind the second most successful localization ever which happens to be Precure's brother show. First one's Pokemon
Which considered is still better than the first pitched name Gangnam Girls I'm not fucking kidding about that, which was going to be HaCha
No.856344
>>856342
The post was replying to >>856319 by the way.
No.856347
>>856342
>Echoes elicit a ban. I'm sorry, but you should know this already.
Fuck off, faggot.
No.856354
>>856319
It's stupid they didn't just call it "Pretty Cure", but I guess "Glitter Force" sounded better to the focus groups.
No.856363
>>856354
PreCure itself has a main target audience of toddlers in Japan, and "Purikyua" rolls nicely off their tongue, I'd say Glitter Force channels that kind of vibes for western toddler audience.
No.856439
>>856363
>toddlers
Aim a few years higher. Renaming it at all is retarded since western kids will have no problem saying an already western phrase even if they butcher it.
>>856321
>start
Already did FW, HaCha, and HeartCatch. Supposedly Suite is really good so I'm saving that one for later and filling the gap between FW and HeartCatch. After that I'll get to the post HeartCatch ones.
No.856441
>>856439
>Aim a few years higher
No, I won't? Their main target audience literally ranges from toddlers to little children, something like 3-8 years old.
No.856461
This beauty is the real reason I'm bothering with MH. If it was just 50 more episodes of arienai! I could skip it and not feel bad.
>>856441
>3-8
I'd argue 6 to 11. 3 to 5 don't really have a sense of good/bad/justice/heroes/villains/fighting/etc to really enjoy it. Also usually the cures are middle schoolers (13 to 15) so shouldn't the target audience be closer to that age?
No.856469
>>856461
>Also usually the cures are middle schoolers (13 to 15) so shouldn't the target audience be closer to that age?
What? No. They are exactly middle schoolers for the audience to have someone who isn't yet an "adult", yet they can look at them kinda like an authority figure, since they are close enough.
Of course seasons like Hugtto accentuates that by having all middle schoolers - aside from the one whose character is outright about being childish - look and feel pretty much like adult women.
On the other point, 3-5 do have a sense of "look at those pretty vivid colors" and "oh i want that plastic toy", and that is what matters to the franchise.
No.856470
>>856461
But I gotta add that Hikari was indeed the reason I bothered with MH too.
No.856488
>6 minutes into Fresh
>boyfriend
DROPPED
This is what almost killed Precure. How people didn't riot and throw toys at Toei I will never know. I hate this show for next 19 minutes or until its her relative.
No.856490
>>856488
1. Little girls don't care about that
2. Big friends don't care about her
3. It's not what it looks like
No.856492
>>856490
>1. Little girls don't care about that
I don't know. Isn't that boys and romance actually a bonus for most little girls?
No.856496
>>856492
I meant it in a way that they aren't sensitive about that. Yes, if anything, that's a bonus for them, though not always.
No.856498
>>856488
>Blue shows more tummy than Nagisa.
Shes a slut that I guess no one cared about like >>856490 said. This was a good first episode. Not sure how SS went, but this has all the makings of the future Precures. Love is a good girl with mild autism and feels like the template for I guess many pink cures. Even the opening battle felt like the later series. At least one villian looks good too. The ED is surprisingly good.
No.856524
>>856498
One of the more interesting features of Fresh is that it was the first to really play up the fact that the Cures are local heroes. Heartcatch did it too, but I don't think as much.
No.856589
I've started buying Precure manga. It's nearly all original content, and little of it is fighting. I've sunk deeper into the youjo abyss.
No.856749
While I sat out through the ban didn't know echoes fell through the 'correct punctuation' rule, my bad are most Precure shows archived somewhere? Particularly trying to track down SS, YP5/YPGoGoV and Fresh.
Also Zi-O starts today, still not too big on the spinner belt. Also a Faiz-related toy is confirmed as well as Evolt in the Driver.
>>856589
>It's nearly all original content, and little of it is fighting.
So it's shit, then. Thanks for letting us know.
No.856776
>>856749
The fighting is the one thing that makes Precure a whole lot shittier than it could have been. Especially the weekly, shallow shit fights.
The manga sounds like a delightful change from the weakness of the series.
No.856807
>>856776
>the only thing that makes Precure stand out from the mediocre mahou shoujo that are either way too bland or way too edgy as of late
>the weakness of the series
While I agree that fights have been incredibly shallow ever since Maho and Toei has stubbornly been trying to give it less focus, the action is a vital part of the franchise and arguably the main reason of its success for over an uninterrupted decade aside from the toys. With it Precure makes itself stand out between the Sakuras, the Madokas, the Priparas and the Aikatsus, the only ones close to filling that niche are Nanoha and Symphogear even though both are darker in tone And Nanoha lost its way years ago but apparently the movies are great.
If anything, what's trying to kill Precure is Toei's stubborness to make the show go against its true nature. Either with the treatment of fights, by stealing their animators to work on DBS and whatever other show is around, by still using transformations and special attacks as means of padding, and the fact that they take as little risks as possible. Have girls go to different schools. Have two or more Cures actually being relatives/siblings. Have them actually join Super Hero Time, or even have a crossover episode.
No.856819
>>856807
That's just what your inner shounen thinks.
The battles are, and always were (aside from a few exceptions) the biggest weakness of the series.
No wonder they got rid of it. GoPri for example almost killed the franchise with its heavy focus on fights.
No.856848
>>856807
>Nanoha movies
Theyre more 90 minutes of Nanoha shooting Divine Buster without much reason. The first two anime at least had motivation for the blaster based befriending whereas the movie is just "we know you want to see this so here it is with all your money poured into it" I only watched reflection since the first two are recaps
>fights are Precures weakness
Only if the fights suck which for the most part they have in Hugtto. If theyre going for a nonfighting story though they need to scrap Precure entirely and build new instead of changing what it is. Trying to half change then nostalgia sell when it doesnt work is exactly what was wrong with IdolTime Pripara and completely starting clean or mostly clean has made Kiratto much better.
No.856970
>>856749
I love the show's fighting (when it doesn't suck), but when it comes to raw reading I enjoy cute girl interaction stuff the most. It is shoujo as fuck though. That's expected but I thought the anime would prepare me.
No.857327
Haven't touched Hug in a long while, is it still SJW Precure and should I not bother or has it managed to pick up despite that? Such a shame that after waiting for years for another Kawamura-designs Precure it got wasted on Ikuhara's buttbuddy ruining it with it's propaganda they cannot help but shove on anything they touch.
No.857423
>>857327
It hasn't been problem-glasses tier since the fashion show. There was one episode where Homura's dog wants to fuck a cat and it had some message like "love crosses all boundaries", but it was mostly used to boost Ruru x Emiru.
No.857424
>>857423
>Homura
I keep doing that.
No.858146
>>857327
Unlike the other anon, I still feel like it's SJW Precure.
And Ruru x Emiru don't share love of the romantic kind, just the friendship one.
If you want cute girls, and innocent charm OR fights that at least has moments of coolness, then forget it. I personally can't wait for the leaks for the next season. this was a horrible season for me.
No.858332
I was wrong, they actually stole two Smile episodes.
At least the tengu actually shows up this time unlike Smile.
>make a worldwide trip
<spend only a few minutes there before leaving
So this episode was good for more Ruru faces, but also, finally we get some banter. Robot dad is easily the best of the new villains so far, edgy hamster boy and slut with buttlers sure don't have much going for them. We get the full team attack next episode Are we running on Rider schedule now? I swear these kind of upgrades usually came in by ep ~20 something, but honestly I feel like they can squeeze one more cure. Please be Kotori since she already knows now.
No.858334
A few more caps while I wait for Zi-O.
>>857327
Aside from a dog wanting to fuck a cat (and making an incredibly hamfisted message out of it) and the french faggot episodes and trying to push EmiruxRuru? Not really.
Thankfully nothing important happens in either episode so they're completely skippable.
No.858344
Other than Emiru looking extremely hot in her idol outfit this time, and a few cute Ruru faces, I didn't think this episode had anything good going for it.
I wonder why the fuck did they even bring Kotori along, since she did and got absolutely nothing.
No.858350
>>858344
I forgot Kotori was even there to begin with aside from making stupid gags about the precure identities being secret.
No.858358
>>858350
Worst part was the "android" thing coming up multiple times, but hey, it's just "who-the-fuck-cares-about" Kotori, you can bullshit with some random gag, and she's dealt with.
No.858366
Zi-O is finally out, rejoice for the birth of a new overlord!
And a metric fuckton of CG. From the get-go we have the very silly-looking stone effect on our main character and the previous Riders simulating statues, then lots of people get normalfagcapeshitmoviememe'd, then a dinosaur with elephant noises. And then there's the Time Mazines that will be heavily featured so this already is looking hard to watch.
On the other hand the suits are looking fine. Another Build being basically a SIC Rider brought to life is amazing and this is going to happen for all watches one could assume and the fact that the Ride Armors are actually original pieces and not just "old suit with current stuff slapped on" is amazing I fear for the budget of this show, seriously.
Sougo being Haruharu in male form is more fun than expected, especially when it's so uncommon in the franchise. Then there's the characters from the future which I couldn't care too much about, one's cute but I'm not sure if he has a penis or not, and I swear one of the guys getting killed was Date/Birth.
>>858358
Now the thing is, Kotori now did see them henshin after that. Hell they even switched costumes with the Mirai Pad previously, pretty much in front of her. They're going to have to do something about that.
No.858371
>Next week is the new power item
These cures still feel super weak. Also I'm not sure whether to be mad or not by not even getting a towel covered onsen scene with the girls. I was looking forward to that and was prepared to save every frame
>>858344
>Emiru looking extremely hot in her idol outfit this time
Do you know how to stitch together frames? Sadly yes the whole world trip was just to get Ruru faces and Hugtan doing Hugtan things. Kotori needs to be told about the "secret" already. Its not like she would mind and she certainly suspects something. I don't think they have the budget for a 6th cure this late but at least make her useful as a support or self-insert.
No.858377
Don't shit on the Kotori scenes too quickly. They might be going for the slowburn on this one. Give it an episode or 2 further to see if she has more screentime and development with the full cast, including suspicion about their activites, before you write it off as pointless baiting.
Believe in Toei and Satou!
No.858379
>>858371
Have we ever gotten an onsen scene in precure before?
>These cures still feel super weak.
Agreed. The direction they took with the fighting doesn't help, but also the main trio got relegated to second fiddle of the BEST MATCH in the fights too. Throw a few attacks, the camera angle shifts awkwardly to several miles away, then Twin Love Guitars; occasionally one or two moves show up as well in between.
>>858377
I want to believe, but Toei isn't letting me. I'd love it if she had some development, but she might as well not appear in this episode.
No.858398
>>858379
At least we got them getting knocked back so hard they broke shit by flying into it. But, yeah. Not enough solid hits in this show.
No.858418
>>858379
>>858371
It's almost disgusting how much they avoid "sexualizing" the girls. It feels unnatural and stupid.
No.858438
>>858418
I wonder if loli Homare's butt caused someone in the company to put their foot down. It was exceptionally good service for Precure.
No.858439
>>858438
It was, but I think they are being huge Homarefags from the beginning, that's how that could happen.
And it still probably was too much for someone, as loli Homare was indeed young looking.
No.858441
>>858379
>onsen
Cannot think of any off hand but its not unusual to have a bath scene with only neck or collarbone up visible to show family bonding, since family baths are a bonding thing. The onsen this week was a character point for Ruru and they specifically chose Atami I think so at first I thought it was going to be some kind of local onsen promotion. Sure we got the foot bath but where is the typical "soaking up to your neck is incredibly relaxing~" scene? Since it was for Ruru's character there could have been a heartfelt "thanks for wanting to come here, Ruru". Showing the old man and literal hamster then Ruru extremely relaxed after the bath is just rude.
No.858465
>Honoka giving Nagisa a hard time
This is like oxygen to me. Nothing says friendship like light teasing. Its also completely missing from EmiRuru and thats really a shame. How else are little girls supposed to learn to bully each other?
No.858507
>>858465
Teasing and physical reactions are important to team cohesion. Hana's due for some too.
No.858511
>>858465
That's literally what they kind of learn in the crossover episode, from Nagisa and Honoka no less. The joke is that Emiru is an autist and Ruru is a robot so they don't understand that friendship also means arguing and teasing each other, and those can be easily misinterpreted by each other. Which is kind of why EmiRuru is a thing, yuricucks can't handle deep autistic friendship.
But besides that it's true, it's been a good while since we've seen behavior like that last I can remember is Smile with Nao/Akane, didn't watch Doki yet or finish HaCha
No.858547
Whatever these puffy things are, they are a godsend and the director is giving Love all the love. The only thing missing right now is a more diverse offensive attackset, a pinch of explosions and a more powerful finishing move. The gap between marble screw MAX and this light shower is too big.
No.858557
>>858547
Petticoats? I wish they went back to bike shorts. That way you can perfectly see the outline of their 9-14 year old vaginas.
No.858575
>>858547
Fresh cures are damned hot. And something about their eyes looks kind of scary in a way that excites me.
No.858651
Took Haruyama long enough, until the actual show called her sexy, to finally lewd Hugtan.
No.858657
>>858557
After thinking about it for a while they seem like high puff shorts.
>>858575
The eye design has not changed much. Really just the highlights move around and maybe the pupils become a darker iris color.
No.858664
>>858657
It's the light ring around the pupil. I'm not sure why that gives me this particular feeling but it does.
No.858756
>>858651
Would you a Hugtan?
No.858761
>>858756
The diameter of her head is 50% of her height. She needs to get bigger first. Emiru's head is about 20% so I'll reconsider when Hugtan gets close to that size.
No.858882
>>858756
Of course I would.
>>858761
Bad taste.
No.859016
>The wig episode
Is this what happens when Toei finishes a cour with budget leftover or rake in massive toy sales with the (first?) tact? This whole episode had far more frames on casual talking animation and the whole battle. Its not going to stay like this but it bodes well for the finale.
No.859316
This was the good shit man.
No.859345
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>>854060
>>853936
Wouldn't you rather see them after the show? What if it's 2D girls pretending to be other 2D girls?
No.859391
>>859388
Cute but it sure looks a bit exploitable.
No.859414
>>859388
>2nd image
My heart skipped a beat. I thought he was feeding her popcorn with ketchup.
No.859469
>>859345
Reality is not so kind. I'm sure it's just 3rd rate female pro wrestlers inside.
No.859563
>Love faces the anime
What have they done to my Precure folder?
No.859702
Another episode when they are pushing Homare, and glorifying her looks, with even some lewd next week.
Fuck this Homare pandering propaganda shit season.
Leaks can't come soon enough.
No.859717
>24 episodes into Fresh
It was a mistake watching this, Hugtto sucks compared to this (and possibly most other Precures). Setsuna/Eas/Passion is so best after Love and thankfully has a totally different design than the other three. The hurricane attack is hilariously overpowered, seemingly as always for the last arriving cure, and thats a good thing. The 5 or 6 episodes up to this point were done really well. I thought the dancer slut was going to the 4th a few times but they never really gave it away until late, as long as you forgot about the necklace. The high impact friending was very satisfying. Blue is the biggest bitch slut to ever be a Precure. She needs to jump off a cliff. She actually got frustrated when she didnt get the magic stick of pure hearts and was the most suspicious of Setsuna the whole story. Its a blessing the director hates her and gives her the least screen time.
Of the remaining bad guys the non-turbo-baka is the better one. It seems like the only reason the middle man guy appears in Labyrinth is just to even out the numbers in later battles. Hopefully the final battles get Passion vs Mobius so we can enjoy the history and stuff of Labyrinth aka extreme communism.
No.859794
>>859717
Setsuna's conversion was very satisfying. They fighting was drawn out, and there was the right amount of post-villainy angst and such and good interactions with the remaining bad guys. Fresh had really good Cure/villain interaction.
You are correct that Blue is an absolute trash girl. Somehow, with the director giving her nothing, I found her presence preferable to a mediocre girl that I waste effort halfheartedly trying to like. Her simple hatefulness combined with her exposed belly made for a decent Cure.
No.859971
Bad episode. Lots of cut corners. The resolution of Hana's bullying backstory was weak. The butler henchmen suck and have bad VA so any time they're on screen is bad. The powerup was good, but the music didn't sell it at all, and there was no fight (on a boss enemy even), so it had little impact. At least next week looks fun.
No.860035
>>859971
It's really obvious how much of Homarefag the director, or someone at the staff is, and how they don't give a shit about Hana.
She get this kind of episode, again, she doesn't shine one bit, again, she gets depressed over nothing (her friend meeting Hana at the beginning was THE single least life-like interaction I've seen even in PreCure, what middle school girls act like that?) then cheered on by her friends and back to status quo, again.
Some propaganda, some everyone-is-so-shallow-and-nice-to-everyone bubble world character interactions, shit fight, oh and powerup.
Can this season be over already?
No.860107
How was anything the old man said sexual harassment? He only said she is young and implied she has a long way to go in her career at the bad guy business. Did anyone else notice how different the outlines were this week? Its like a totally different animator did a few scenes.
Next week is another HarryxFag episode. I'm so excited I want to skip it and watch pretty much any other Precure instead.
>>859971
>>860035
That wasn't even a resolution, in fact her past was not really brought up at all. This might be the second time all season we have heard about it. What could possibly be the reason that Hana hated Eri to begin with? Hana would hate the people who isolated her, not Eri who Hana defended. A backstory like bullying so bad Hana moved needs a few weeks of build up to really enjoy. The powerup felt lifeless because this motivation was crap. Its like someone said "alright they need a new power since we are 30 episode in" and so the power came. If it wasn't for EmiRuru there would be no reason at all to watch.
No.860138
>>860107
It probably was a different animator. There are different guest animators every week who contribute work and their styles can show through. I don't know much, I just saw some animation otaku posts about it.
>Hana
Yeah, they could have gotten at least a couple good episodes out of it. That was a very hard time for Hana and revisiting it in depth would have had a lot of dramatic and character potential. It's even a relevant issue for a lot of kids watching. Instead, they totally glossed over it and wasted a lot of time on gay friendship stuff that we already know.
Afterward, because of the lack of fight and general lifelessness, I went and rewatched another series's 2nd-half-powerup episode. I chose GoGo 31. The constrast was so stark that the Hugtto team should be in a constant state of shame and contrition.
No.860246
>>859971
>The butler henchmen suck and have bad VA so any time they're on screen is bad.
They keep picking shitty manzai """""""comedians"""""""" to do VA work.
No.860261
>>860256
That one episode was better and more fun than the whole season of Hugtto with its lifeless characters.
No.860270
>>860246
Yeah none of them know how to speak for voice over work and their acting is shit. Even donut man (RIP), though I will forgive him for all the happy little girl dances he choreographed.
No.860441
I finally caught up. This episode was... hard to stomach, at least.
<bring up bullying and a backstabbing friend as a backstory all of a fucking sudden, on a character brought just for this episode, that probably won't show up again and there wasn't even a resolution to said plot
<the words "sexual harassment" brought up on fucking Precure at all, on a comment that you have to give a huge stretch to take as such
<high quality close-ups, except misproportioned as all hell, Homare looked even more yaoi than usual
<incredibly notable shifts between animation
<Hana is an incredibly retarded character and should get her shit slapped in for not only avoid talking about her own emotions, but also trying to keep the "trying hard to be cool" act
<Using Emiru and Ruru to be sad about Hana for a shitty scene, and the scene is more believable than the whole background around the character of the week
<Mirai Crystal Cheerful is the most 'pulled-out-of-the-ass' power-up ever seen since Build's RabbitDragon, and is equally as ugly and impactless, and prolongs the tradition of awful power-up forms in Precure also Hugtan is pretty much confirmed to be a 6th cure and/or bearer of the white crystal
<villains that people can't possibly care less about are mercykilled and in a less fun way than the fat guy
The only good thing about this episode were the closeups to Gelos' tits. And that they're pretty much confirming that Homare is a slut for hamster dick.
Meanwhile, Zi-O did get a bit better and even bothers to explain a bit of what's going on, or rather why it's going on. For now our main character continues his road to be a princessan overlord and next week we're getting SIC eggsade.
>>860256
>Aikatsu can get into SRW X-Omega
>still no room for Happy Robo there
At least put up a Soul of Chogokin, Bandai.
No.860480
>>860444
They can fuck off, why not censor this too, if they're so hysterically against showing anything in the actual show?
They could just give them some baggy shorts under.
No.860485
>>860441
>the words "sexual harassment" brought up on fucking Precure at all, on a comment that you have to give a huge stretch to take as such
Can you explain what the sekuhara was? I totally missed it.
No.860487
>>860485
The Doc complimenting villain bitch that she's still young, and then she literally told him that's sexual harassment.
No.860491
>>860487
Thats what I thought it was. This is just one more thing in the pile of disappointing Hugtto scenes. How long before next years Precure?
No.860492
>>860491
Leaks should come out in 2 months.
No.860495
>>860441
Hugtto feels like a disappointment overall, i dropped it on the episode where emiru goes full retard with autistic ruru, i think it was episode 14, and i finally picked it up again due to a lack of other anime to watch, all i'm expecting from this season is for hugtan's grown up form to be even cuter than her baby form and for her to actually fight alongside the other 5, not just be a battery of sorts like luminous.Kotori becoming a cure is probably asking for too much.
All this emiruru pandering would bother me if i wasn't a massive lolicon.
No.860497
>>860495
>All this emiruru pandering
I don't really see it, especially not in a lolicon pandering way.
No.860499
>>860495
>emiruru pandering
Very much okay with this. Those two are the sole reason to watch until the end. Being a lolicon and yurifag help tremendously via thick goggles. Its too bad Kotori does not appear more often.
No.860501
>>860497
My bad, you said EmiRuru pandering, which is kinda true. Then again, since their characters are still lifeless (just not as much as the main 3 girls), their interactions are sweet, yet boring, and they will never go beyond best friends status anyways.
No.860512
I honestly did enjoy most of the season so far despite its faults. But now we're in the filler between the first-half development and the final arc, and there is simply not the team chemistry nor fight substance needed to hold up during that. I mean, I put up with all of FW/MH because it had those basics. They need to get back to seriously developing things, even Homare's musophilia would be something.
No.860539
>>860536
>>860535
>>860538
I miss when Toei wasn't such pussies.
No.860568
>>860495
>i dropped it on the episode where emiru goes full retard with autistic ruru, i think it was episode 14
15, I assume. It's so far the best episode in the show, Emiru works much better as a character, has an actual motivation and it would have worked even more if Hugtto was an actual anniversary series - looking up to past Precure while being one herself even without a clear motivation characters can work, like Haruka for example and does more to actually save someone in civilian that Hana.
As for Ruru, she works just fine, having Emiru as a main target and trying to comprehend her actions which are already different from the standard human being and how even with her failures to help she makes people happier and all that, and their autism is the glue than holds both together. Emiru's otouto could be disposed or repurposed altogether, antagonising her by thinking her current actions are a waste of her potential.
I'm personally sad that there's people ruining such a pure autistic friendship between Emiru and Ruru by trying to make it into yuricuckery.
No.860571
>>860568
>Emiru's otouto
Don't even scare me like that. She has an onii-san, or ani, not a fucking little brother.
And what's wrong with people enjoying yuri fantasies about them? We all know that won't happen, if there will be homo, it will be between two men.
No.860579
>>860573
Bukki made me realize I'm not just a lolicon, but a cute-con.
No.860580
>>860571
Brain problems on my end, my bad.
If anything, it would be hypocritical if some bashed homos while at the same time praising girl homos. Neither needs to be canon or even implied on a kid's show.
No.860583
>>860580
When talking about this show on this board, it's just natural someone would bash homos, while praising girl homos.
We are not at some safe space PC shithole.
And yes, everyone knows there will never be canon yuri.
No.860585
>>860583
>We are not at some safe space PC shithole.
Then why even defend or justify girl homos at all?
No.860590
>>860585
>defend
>justify
The word you're looking for is "enjoy", because that's what we're doing here, since that's a beautiful thing, while assfucking gay men are shit tier.
No.860694
>>860579
Bukki is a good girl who goes to church.
(pic unrelated).
No.860719
>>860568
Don't even remind me about masato, he was introduced as a """misogynist""" asshole who wanted emiru to stop playing the guitar because it wasn't girly and told her to get back to the kitchen to make tea because he bought cake, then 2 episodes later toei suddenly backpedals and now he's all tolerant and literally bending over for the gay frog, then a couple episodes later emiru tells everyone how she used to bully masato with her godzilla suit when they were younger, so all the "antagonizing" masato did was just friendly sibling bantz, i mean who here hasn't told his sister to shut the fuck up with her gay music, or told her to go fix you a sandwich because you couldn't be bothered to got get it yourself? It's honestly fucking stupid how poorly this was handled, if i didn't know better i'd say they outsourced the script for those episodes to a tumblrina from soy francisco.
No.860764
>>860719
It wasn't a backpedal. He was set up that way originally so that later seeing Henri's stunning, beautiful, and brave display could change his preconceived notions and lift his misogyny and bigotry, which were only there because his heart was closed off in ignorance.
No.861279
>>860694
Bukki's bukkis arent that okki.
>>860764
Please don't hurt us anymore with that language
No.861310
>>860764
Well, I'm not convinced yet. I need to see some more of Henry's stunning, beautiful, braveness on full display. I hope some artists will get to that soon.
No.861382
>>861310
There has been surprisingly very little action on that. The Japanese mind remains inscrutable.
No.861551
>>860719
>so all the "antagonizing" masato did was just friendly sibling bantz
The thing is, Masato's stuff didn't even feel like banter, more like strong contempt for his imouto. Every time he said that he said it with a completely straight face.
Not only that, but it's a completely retarded strawman in a franchise that's on his 15th consecutive fucking year, which possesses a good deal of male fans worldwide, which is about girls being heroines by virtue of punching the shit out of monsters unlike the standard magical girl regardless of what Toei wants you to think
No.861576
>>861551
I'm going to look at it positively. He was cold to his imouto, and was punished by being turned gay.
No.862027
In which Homare is going to become an overlord and gets cucked by Hugtan. Probably.
Also one of the fags becomes a villain next week, hopefully because Gelos is bland as shit, Sieg has done nothing yet just like sad book man and Bishin is annoying. Maybe Emiru's big bro is next, and the sodomites will be exterminated.
Meanwhile, the Zi-O cast tries to save his little sister franchise.
No.862057
>>862027
That's right, we really needed another fag guy episode after the last one.
Hugshit can't end quickly enough.
No.862070
>>862027
The Homare fawning over hamster dick episode was so bad I didn't even take screenshots. Next week its more skating so Homare will probably be the lead again but its the male skater so maybe Emirus brother will appear just to confess to the skaterboy.
No.862620
>41 episodes into Fresh
The road to the final battle is nearing the end. The flow of Loves has shown no signs of slowing. Some battles were really well animated, as usual for Precure. The mom episode made me scream. Buki might be overpowered since shes the only one (so far) to solo a sorewatase. Setsuna is love. Setsuna is life.
No.862773
>Fresh complete
The whole Soular being relevant came too late along with trying to be friends with worst Cure. Westar and Setsuna's battle was done well since he was a good guy. Northa and Klein fusion battle was where all the money went and stole the show from Moebius. Since Fresh came right before Heartcatch it explains why everything in Heartcatch had explosions that were totally absent in Fresh. Love was the hero and favorite for everyone from episode one and she is responsible for probably 100 faces in the Precure face folder. Aside from Setsuna, no one else had a chance. She might one of the strongest Pinks, behind the monster in HaCha. Overall Fresh is really good. At least as good as HaCha.
Now to resume Max Heart and try to decide where to go after that. I'm starting to learn the generational growth of Precure as a whole. As a result Hugtto is looking like more and more of a tumor on the franchise. The previous pinks need to aggressively bully Hana. Setsuna did the dark side conversion much better than Ruru. Homare and Berry are sluts. Ange is more useless than Tarte. Hugtan about matches Chiffon and the Popo creature in FW/MH.
No.862799
>>862773
I was blown away when the whole team revealed themselves to their parents before they went off to the final battle. The fleshing out of home, family, and town stuff was one of the point of Fresh that I really appreciated. In some series they're practially existing in a bubble, and usually if they build up identity tension it's never properly released.
Personally, I would just watch straight through and complete the first half of Precure. Then you can start watching All Stars movies too, which are pure fanservice overload.
No.863452
>Skater episode was an Emiru episode
The EmiRuru pushing was very welcome even at the cost of fags holding hands. Next weeks looks to be more interesting since Kotori is relevant again. Seems like at some point later the skaterboy will go to the dark side.
No.863509
>>863452
Problem with this is that while EmiRuru is a friendship kind of pushing and feels natural because one is a child and the other is an android, so it's pure as can be, the other is kind of a gay shipping, with a jerk that "awakened to the tolerancy and being different", and a genderfluid fuck, which gives disgusting progressive propaganda vibes.
No.863521
Also the massive Homarefaggotry and dressing Emiru like shit should end.
No.863534
>>863521
Its from a calendar. Certainly Emiru is in the foreground of a different month right? Right? Has a popularity poll shown Homare is the favorite?
No.863551
>>863534
Whenever Emiru is in the foreground, it's still the boring shit clothes.
This is the only non-usual clothes Emiru, and it also looks like ass.
Homare ranked very high on character popularity polls early on, not sure about now, but one thing is for sure, the staff has a hardon for her.
No.863568
>>863521
>>863551
Frankly, I understand if they're being conservative with the JS on a kid's show.
No.863641
Another dreadful episode, jesus fuck, i thought we were done with this shit in episode 19, who the fuck is allowing this? Even mahou tsukai, which had an underage lesbian couple as the main protagonists, a couple that later adopted a kid mind you, felt less gay and definitely never felt forced unlike this henri/emiruru shit, nonohana getting shafted in favor of the red loli is the shit cherry on top considering that out of all the pinks she's the one that needs love and attention the most, poor girl debuted in the wrong season.
The only way they can redeem this shit season is by making kotori a cure so she can comfort her older sister and bully emiru into submission.
No.863689
Still too gay, too sentimental, too weaksauce. Looking forward to Kotori time.
No.863821
I want to have hope for Henri and all the progressive garbage they're pushing. He's clearly worried about his fucked up ankle, puberty, becoming manlier, and his loss of androgyny. This will inevitably push him to Criasu and towards wanting to stop time to preserve his twink gayness, but the Precure will beat him up and purify it out of him so he'll be accepting of all of the above and will grow into a normal person. This is almost certainly how it's going to go, so I'm not sure of the message Toei trying to push here. It's okay to be a retarded faggot when you're a small child but knock it off when you grow up?
Regardless, there are children watching. None of this twisted shit should be in here.
No.863835
>>863568
Why would they want to be conservative? Have you seen the other kids shows and previous precures?
>>863641
>making kotori a cure so she can comfort her older sister and bully emiru into submission
Theres no way that would happen this late but I wish it did. Kotori and Emiru would have made for better main cures. Then Ruru comes along with the same story she did. Finally Hana joins after standing up to her bullies and not cutting her hair. There would be no 5th cure.
>Even mahou tsukai, which had an underage lesbian couple as the main protagonists
Found the next precure to watch
No.863847
>>863835
Yeah I know there are loli butts and vagina bones abound in other shows. I'm saying that if anyone did decide not to do that, that I couldn't honestly find fault with it.
No.864148
>>863847
It just seems like Emiru is the least popular so the studio is doing everything to ignore her and keep her in the background with the expectation that she doesn't translate to sales. Its pretty much what happened to Miki in Fresh and purple in HaCha with the difference being that some of us like the least popular cure and are frustrated with it.
If Emiru was the most popular I'm sure the studio would do everything to make her the center of attention without simply removing Hana.
No.864160
I dropped this season on episode 24 because i couldn't stand the pozz, is it worth it to pick it up again or do i stick with hacha and gopri?
No.864163
>>864160
Stick with hacha and gopri until Hugtto is over. If Hugtto gets better you will see it here.
No.864182
>>864148
>Emiru is the least popular
Do you have evidence of that?
No.864776
Max Heart is a conflicting show to watch. My heart and head are completely in love with Honoka for hand holding, dates to science centers, romantic devotion, building a research lab at home, and advancing the family tree but my body wants Hikari for short term satisfaction knowing nothing will come of being in love with the Queen.
>>864182
Empty speculation based on screen time and prominence in promotional material. A full ranking would be Homare, Hana, Ruru, Saaya, Emiru with Saaya and Emiru fairly close.
No.864783
>>864776
If you assume light and dark are equivalent to good and evil, that makes Hikari not just a good girl but the goodest girl in the universe.
No.864784
>>864783
She can be as good as she likes but she still will not be better than Honoka in the long term.
No.864965
>>864918
>>864921
If Goku was a Precure, it would be Lovely. No idea who Vegeta would be though.
No.865022
This episode had some events in the wrong order. Its trying to do something good with Hana's relationship with non-cures but its too late to start this stuff now. The preview looks like Saaya will be relevant again.
Every Precure I've watched had a major plot point in episode 34. The only exception is FW which was using a totally different formula to all the others.
No.865056
Whoa, a good episode. Lots of Nonos with little distraction and no GRIDS. Even got to see loli Hana and lolier Kotori.
No.865091
Cygames does what Toei won't.
>>864965
She's the Super Robot to Nanoha's Real Robot.
No.865104
>>865091
>Cygames
A precure mobile game? No way is Cygames funding a remake or spinoff anime.
No.865173
>>865104
It's a collab event for Granblue Fantasy that starts in two weeks. Been confirmed long ago.
No.865221
>>865056
I don't know, Kotori still has zero personality, and Hana still only gets shit aside from saving the day in her episodes with yet another lazy fight.
What's even worse is that her good trait, which is basically "caring about others" is recognized by randomly-in-love-with-her John Boring classmate earlier than anyone else.
I hated almost everything about it, the only good part is that there were a bit less idealistic nonsense talk than usual.
Also Kotori will never be relevant, and they won't touch her suspicion topic anymore after the note the episode ended on, so it was a complete waste of fucking time.
No.865272
Too much tell on Hana's selling points. Not enough show. We're told how caring, kind, and selfless she is, but outside of the typical Precure valor, we see nothing but energetic goofyness directed into vague good will and cheer for others. If it weren't for Beta-kun telling the viewer directly, those traits are not what I would prescribe to her character first and foremost. She needs more dedicated scenes outside of Precure-form of being excessively helpful and nice to others (without being undermined by gag antics), or else it's all too easy to confuse her character with what she does as a Precure.
Still, better late than never. The attempt is being made, however clumsy. Some of the more shafted Cures never even get that.
No.865276
>>865272
Yeah, but she is easily the most shafted pink.
This late and low effort does not help her case even a little. I don't understand how can they toss aside characterization so hard, and instead have the girls throwing around idealistic speeches instead of acting like characters, or showing them live their everyday lives.
They don't even have the fights as scapegoat, because they are extremely short and effortless this season, even Kirakira was more intense without any CQC.
And as far as their resolution go, I doubt it will reach Doremi heights.
No.865283
>>865276
>Doremi
You've been moving way too fast on that shit man calm down.
Might be a case of comparing apples to oranges. Not only does Doremi not have fight scenes hogging screentime otherwise devoted to character development or shenanigans, but it's also 100+ episodes. We know Satou can do things proper, but something, whether it be time-constraints or suits, is holding him back. While it's certainly both, I think time is the more pressing one. Trying to hit too many check-marks on the list is stretching him thin and something has to give. Character development and proper narrative resolutions are tanking the blow. Things would be different if Hana and the lass' had more time to just flaff about.
Bring back 2-part Precure seasons!
No.865284
>>865283
Yeah, I agree with most of what you said, but then again, I still fault the show for having those constraints, and downplaying what makes a series enjoyable.
If they can't handle 5 Cures, then just don't bring in more, if they can't handle villains having a relationship with the "mascot", then don't do it, if they can't devote time to a baby character, for goodness' sake, don't bring her in the series.
The worst thing though is still how our main character is the one who nobody has a reason to look up to at episode 34.
No.865298
>>865284
>The worst thing though is still how our main character is the one who nobody has a reason to look up to at episode 34.
I can't blame them too heavily. Hana's character is a kind cheerleader always ready and willing to lend a hand. Any time. For such a mild and rather unremarkable character strength to shine, they need people to help in a variety of bad situations. As children are watching, you can't have any of the supporting cast be in situations too messed up for her to assist in, nor can you have Hana's own advice be too intelligent and sensible, given she's 14 and awkward. All the other cast will be there as well, further diluting her presence.
Thus her appeal is hamstringed from the get-go besides vaguely encouraging 'fure fure [person]' to people "suffering" relatively minor inconveniences and setbacks. Compound that with time-restraints and the other main girls having immediately overshadowing personalities and strife (that are easier to write), and the writers are in a bind with how to approach the situation. They attempted to do so by having the majority of Hana's pivotal moments happen while she is Cure Yell, but that doesn't particularly work because, well, she's a Cure. They're supposed to be kind and dependable.
It's a hard life. This last episode would have done a world of good for her 20 episodes ago, but now it's way too late. She needs something that leaves a much stronger impression at this point.
No.865304
>>865283
>>865284
They're trying to do too many things. 5 cures. A cyborg. A romance. A whatever EmiRuru is. Musicians/idols. A "working" theme. A "babies and children" theme. A baby. An evil-to-good cure. Many developed villains. Villains who turn good and become regular characters. Harry's complex story. LGBT shit. A character going evil now. A main plot involving time travel.
The overall theme is good, about the passage of time and it being hard but desirable. I see what they're trying to do with all this crap, and I like it a lot in the abstract. But as said, they have to be able to devote time to those elements AND the SoL AND the fights, but they're neglecting all three somehow.
>Bring back 2-part Precure seasons!
Yeah, you can only make a complex season like Yes!GoGo with the main characters and world already established.
No.865308
>>865298
>they need people to help in a variety of bad situations
Heartcatch did that just fine. It had people in shitty moods that were easy to relate to and the cures cheered them up with simple advice plus violence. It would be harder to do that out of cure form, but that is sort of the idea of the show, that they transform to rise above their normal selves to solve whatever the problem is.
No.865312
>>865308
Heartcatch only had 2 cures for a good portion of its run-time, they were simpler characters, and also everything >>865304 said. Too many pans in the fryer, too many check-marks trying to be hit all at once.
>It would be harder to do that out of cure form, but that is sort of the idea of the show, that they transform to rise above their normal selves to solve whatever the problem is.
Yes, that is the theme of the show and 99 times out of a 100 it works just dandy. But it doesn't work here because it severely overlaps with Hana's character and motivations. Hana transforming into Yell to help people provides no narrative satisfaction to Hana's characteristics because all Cures are expected, and do, act like that. Hana needs to go above and beyond that to shine, or else you end up in this muddled situation where her only notable feature is "she acts like a Cure" and gags. The leading lady should NOT be notable only for gags.
No.865313
Yeah, basically everything was said in the topic I wanted to address.
Now all I can do is to watch the show for a few fun moments, and wait for a season that tries to be fun in and by itself, instead of an overly ambitious, propaganda pushing season like Hugtto.
They kinda need a fresh start at this point and break out of the "gotta fill out those checkboxes" mindset.
No.865580
Apparently we have gone beyond bump limit it seems.
New thread?
No.865597
>>865283
>Things would be different if Hana and the lass' had more time to just flaff about.
I suppose that's one good thing about FW/MH being so aimless. There was a lot of random everyday stuff and interactions that ended up strengthening the characters.
No.865598
>>865580
It's fine down here.
When it dies or the next episode comes out.
No.865754
>>865313
>wait for a season
Hopefully next years precure doesn't try to do everything. EmiRuru and a love of precure as a whole are the only reasons to continue Hugtto. It would be interesting to see a precure start with the bad guys already ruling the world (more than how HaCha started) and the cures are the guerrilla resistance.
No.865763
>>865754
Just having decent fights would be something. And a team with good chemistry.
No.865784
>>865763
>decent fights
What do you think of the Oshimaeda compared to previous monsters? They seek weaker and more gag filled than some of the others. They already got the power-up and still feel weak.
No.865793
>>865784
I prefer the crazy looking MotW's made from random objects. Oshimaeda is somehow cute though and a few of the forms have been pretty good. And yeah, most of them feel weak because the fights are over without much fighting. There needs to be more violence to sell the strength of one party or the other. As it is, it makes everyone feel weak.