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Excelsior!

Sister site: [Fan-fiction]

File: 25851740a00c88f⋯.jpeg (22.35 KB,400x400,1:1,Jacques_Lacan.jpeg)

 No.16735 [Open thread]

What's the point of this?

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 No.16742

>>16741

Try independently thinking. Pick a book with an interesting summary. If you can't find anything interesting from him, then you don't have to pay attention to him.

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 No.16743

>>16735

I think he'd say excrement

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 No.16744

>>16742

>reading

You know we're on a lit board right?

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 No.16757

Playing with words

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 No.16857

The gist of Lacan's philosophy is that "We think we speak but mainly we are spoken." Going into it further would require more effort on your part. I'm dedicating my life to Lacanian analysis, you can ask me whatever about the theory and praxis of it.

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File: 01e495256fff365⋯.jpg (130.06 KB,1123x1600,1123:1600,JD_Salinger.jpg)

 No.16845 [Open thread]

So many people don't see Salinger as a quality writer.

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 No.16847

It's probably because most people have only read Catcher in the Rye, which is above average, but not incredible. (Also because retard high school interpretations) I always felt that Salinger's short fiction was more interesting and an overall better read.

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 No.16848

>>16847

I agree, nine stories is incredible. Franny and Zooey is great too.

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 No.16850

File: 72b4dcde38e7cb2⋯.jpg (122.23 KB,1000x708,250:177,truthinindia.jpg)

>>16847

People just love to shit on holden because it makes them feel smart and superior

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 No.16853

>>16850

she needs to get that cup back on its saucer, she'll mark up that lovely wooden table!

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File: 5c155a82299b2dc⋯.jpg (767.83 KB,1080x2220,18:37,Screenshot_20200530_033208….jpg)

 No.16831 [Open thread]

Is there a way to learn how to write? Like techniques and stuff? Similar to how artists have Loomis and other books to study drawing. Is there a book or something to study how to write without sounding boring?

All my shit is just sounds fucked when I read it back. Like pacing feels off. I'm not doing anything wrong, grammatically, but I feel like I'm stuck drawing inside the lines, when it comes to sentence structure.

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 No.16832

I think it reads robotically. Try to read it out loud and see how it compares with the way you speak. This may help you find a way to make it sound more natural.

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 No.16833

>>16832

That's kinda my exact issue. If I say it like I envision it in my head, all the details are missing, and the sentences feel real short.

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 No.16835

>>16833

Then just keep writing till you get it all down. You'll improve with practice. The other tip is to read more.

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 No.16851

Just read a shit ton and don't describe how people say stuff the reader will automatically imagine it.

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 No.16212 [Open thread]

Fiction recommendations?

I don't care what genre as long as it is good or likable in some way.

Examples of what I enjoyed: Harry Potter, Kite Runner, A Separate Peace, Little Prince, Catcher in the Rye, Song of Lioness/Tamora Pierce, The Outsiders, To Kill a Mockingbird, Lord of Flies

Examples of meh: Hunger Games, Narnia, My Sister's Keeper, Alice in Wonderland, Clique series, Uglies/Pretties/Specials

Examples of what I hated: The Magician, Alchemist, Lord of Rings, Jane Austin, Great Gatsby

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 No.16271

>>16217

Came here just to say that. Thanks.

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 No.16283

>>16255

>>16212

Go back to reddit and kill yourself, faggot

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 No.16840

File: 09add81d2f10348⋯.jpeg (202.47 KB,710x1136,5:8,4443A7D5_BEC2_4C79_924B_C….jpeg)

You may like this book.

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 No.16841

>>16255

and you're a fan of Harry Potter?

Do you happen to own a Nintendo Switch?

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 No.16843

>>16217

>how can you hate lord of the rings but enjoy harry potter? are you thirteen years old?

Harry Potter is just way better

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File: e12e8c8a93ce5d2⋯.png (354.31 KB,620x349,620:349,the_conspiracy_against_the….png)

 No.16819 [Open thread]

Why do Anglos praise this work?

It's a basic bitch brainlet book.

The only saving grace is the copious selections of superiour Continental prose which the author lifted from greater writers of the past.

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 No.16822

>>16819

Why would you even read that? It looks really gay.

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File: 17f203edffba692⋯.jpeg (118.29 KB,960x720,4:3,image.jpeg)

 No.15520 [Open thread]

Do any smart people here know any fiction books about living forever? Like a person who has lived through the Roman ages all the way up the present and has become a cryptic/reserved person as a result?

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 No.16816

That would be Tuck Everlasting

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 No.16818

I think Anne Rice did something with that exact premise but I've never read anything by her, nor do I intend to.

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File: 9ceac876d1330f1⋯.jpg (29.91 KB,474x562,237:281,.jpg)

 No.16432 [Open thread]

I'm a moron who is trying to read more because my memory is garbage, and apparently reading can possibly help it. Are there any apocalyptic event books set in deep space, in the far future? I can find apocalyptic books, I can find deep space books, and I can find distant future books, but not one that combines all three.

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 No.16435

I suspect this is not quite what you are looking for. I'll throw them out there anyway.

The original Foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov. His short story magazine format may be easier for you to grasp being as it is somewhat repetitive. Most of the stories take place on planets though.

Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks. As I recall, themes ranging from "here it comes!" to exploring places long after an apocalypse run through this work.

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 No.16438

>>16434

I did read your post wrong, dumb me. You clearly stated apocalyptic event, not post-apocalyptic.

>Event Horizon

So by apocalyptic event you mean a catastrophe/major accident and by deep-space you mean happening in space instead of on a planet? You could try giving Blindsight a chance.

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 No.16772

>>16435

Just started re-reading Phlebas I forgot how based that shit is. FALC-tards BTFO.

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 No.16783

File: ca0aa0f7b173a8b⋯.gif (1.26 MB,320x180,16:9,Lh2xFs.gif)

>>16432

I would consider looking into:

>Horus Heresy series

>Songs of The Dying Earth (and the dying Earth genre it spawned)

>The Night Land

>Hyperion

I would also recommend you read cosmic horror like The Dark Gods by Ted Klein.

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 No.16808

>>16802

Also, there are some novelisations of Judge Dredd which has a similar feel.

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File: fe5eb9e96374f68⋯.jpg (53.42 KB,640x480,4:3,sshot50.jpg)

File: 66d689e1767eece⋯.pdf (336.1 KB,chroniclesofaryanrobot&his….pdf)

 No.16597 [Open thread]

I've been writing a scifi story on my offtime, and I'd take any form of feedback.

Current Word Count: 32,018

Status: Draft (about 3 parts done out of 5)

I marked [R] for chapters I plan on majorly revising, and [W] for part/chapters that aren't done yet.

In case 8kun hiccups and can't serve files, I can give another link.

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 No.16769

It looks interesting but the English is plain. You could easily expand what you have. I do like your to-the-point first sentence though, it is a bit grabbing. Maybe what you have written works out better than going large, but I wrote an example below on something like the way I would write it to show you ways you can expand the descriptions. Some people may yell at me and say “some descriptions aren’t important” so maybe I’m just being autistic by wanting to know the geology of Amoi. I’m not even from /lit/ and I have only read a few fiction stories in my life so don’t take my opinion seriously.

Barren and inhospitable was the nature of this planet, which was more distant away from its parent star compared to its sibling worlds, as this was the twelfth planet away from its host. But even here on this inhospitable planet, humans would come to defy its rules and make it hospitable by claiming it as their home, and this planet would be called Amoi. Looking down on Amoi during its nighttime, you would see a small cluster of glowing lights, spread out like a creeping fluorescent fungus on the underside of a stone. There are only three cities on Amoi as this planet was only recently colonized, all of which neighbor each other. One city was the planet’s capital, named Tanagura. Tugging on the side of Tanagura like a satellite’s relentless gravitational pull was an urban city named Midas, and Midas shined most brightly at night compared to the other two cities. The third city was named Ceres, an autonomous sector, and its nightly glow appeared in the form of mere specks, far and few between.

In the dim city of Ceres, there were slums that hid in the shadow of Midas city. This crevice between two cities, on a planet far off from the rest of humanity, would be where one of many men and women would be raised in. This young man appeared like his natural environment, with dark hair and black clothing. His dark clothing was casual as well and didn’t stand out, but in this case, that’s exactly what he wanted. Perched on the top of building’s rooftop, he blended in with his surroundings like the way a gargoyle becomes one with a cathedral, and he looked outward with a fixed gaze. The only thing between his eyes and the city below were the crosshairs of his sniper rifle. He was contracted to assassinate a foreign diplomat, and just the merPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.16770

>>16769

One of the early advices I took when writing was mentioning a character as soon as possible. So the first paragraph doesn't go into detail about the geology (almost all scenarios takes place in the cluster of civilization). Partly to represent that going innawoods is a viable option (there is no woods).

If you want a rough timeline of the planet, a colony ship descended on it a few hundred years ago, which is an extremely short amount of time to properly terraform albedo, atmospheric conditions, to support basic life.

As for Ceres, the gender ratio is extremely skewed (as revealed in Chapter 2), and the general populace on the planet is extremely tampered by genetic engineering and cyborg engineering.

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 No.16771

>>16770

>innawoods is a viable option

isn't*

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 No.16773

>>16770

I never write stories but I have had some short fiction writings as university assignments. One thing that began to grow in my mind was questioning how descriptive I should be. I know that the reader doesn't know what I think, so I always tried to be as descriptive as possible, but I sometimes wonder it becomes overwhelming and takes away from the plot.

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 No.16774

>>16773

I took shot at writing for the hell of it a while ago. So

(1) how much detail I put in a scene is generally indicative of how much description I think is enough. I generally lose interest in a block of text and when nothing is really happening.

(2) more words adds on to more chances of errors, then more effort when it coems to proofreading and editing.

(3) one of the feedback I got from initial drafts was that I put too much visual detail

It doesn't mean I go scant, but I'd like to do the best possible with concise wording.

Fundamentally, every medium of art has its weaknesses and strengths. Visual and aural detail is what writing is extremely weak at conveying (vs a picture, audio), so I don't think heavy description helps. Vivid description may have been awesome before motion picture was a thing, but now we have YouTube and the internet.

>>16769

>humans would come to defy its rules

Not really the right prose for the setting since humans are generally the subjugated demographic on the planet. The government is run by an AI, cyborgs and androids.

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File: ea4a9381a9ca7c8⋯.jpg (1.25 MB,1049x1500,1049:1500,The_Plague_1898.jpg)

 No.16728 [Open thread]

Any recommended reads while I wait for this Covid-19 thing to blow over? I've got my food and supplies stocked up and I work remotely so I think I'll make it if I stay in and read.

Plague theme is preferred, but not required.

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 No.16754

File: ec103939712a6dd⋯.png (210.77 KB,333x499,333:499,ClipboardImage.png)

>>16728

This is Your Brain On Parasites. Sweet dreams with this one.

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 No.16756

Camus' Plague has seen a rise in sales lately, but I had read it before so I'm reading other fresh and optimistic stories instead, like Marcel Pagnol's books. In The Time of Love in particular there is a chapter about the Plague in Marseilles.

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 No.16758

>>16755

>human author

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 No.16759

>"it's just the flu, bro" *goes on cruise ship for spring break*

>the coronavirus is a genetically engineered to distribute superhuman genes to the Chinese populace because their government follows less scruples

>"you can't call it the chinese flu bro because its like racist"

>the coronavirus is a Chinese bioweapon meant to cripple other countries economically

>"ayy yo nigga we needs them toilet papers" *family pushes two shopping carts of toilet paper*

>"POSSIBLY AS DEADLY AS THE SPANISH FLU"

>the coronavirus actually started in Italy as a Chinese researcher was transporting a virus from a Canadian laboratory

>the coronavirus is covered up by the government to prevent overpopulation and to keep the economy going

>the coronavirus can be cured with hydroxylchloroquine/quinine/chlorine/aquarium cleaner/bleach "BUT BIG PHARMA DOESNT WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE PATENTS EXPIRED AND THEY WANT TO SELL VACCINES"

Anyone else getting their fill of scifi from the news media?

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 No.16768

>>16754

Damn, they say don't judge a book by its cover but that looks good.

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 No.15344 [Open thread]

I'm genuinely baffled by the adoration for him. I've read his stories and don't understand the appeal. Could someone explain it? Brainlet here.

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 No.16456

>>16325

I personally don't think he is guilty of pushing for occultism, as opposed to painting witchcraft as destructive. My mom was always into weird occultish things, I've always had a hatred for it, and Lovecraft only solidified that for me.

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 No.16457

>>15344

reddit is that way

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 No.16458

>>16456

Ok so you're autistic; that doesn't make Lovecraft any less of an occultist.

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 No.16763

>>15344

You can't appreciate his job unless you are disgusted/terrified by modernity.

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 No.16765

File: ec0bb548ca24a87⋯.webm (4.31 MB,640x480,4:3,30540593.webm)

>>16763

This is pretty spot on. Normalfags don’t get the appeal of cosmic horror – they want whatever schlock Hollywood churns out instead – jumpscare-riddled, low-effort horror about ghosts and daemons, &c.

Cosmic horror is a slow burn, and it makes to think about the implications of the story after you have put the book down – mankind’s role in the infinite cosmos, the short time human civilisation has existed, and what was before us and what will come after us.

And since it so hard to adapt his stories, and do cosmic horror right in film and TV, you get these butchered adaptations and low-effort attempts at the sub-genre, so someone who watches these, might not even bother to look up Lovecraft’s original stories because of that.

2009 H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival: Dan O'Bannon's "Howie" Acceptance Speech on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/15911259

Alien Explorations: 2009 H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival: Dan O'Bannon's "Howie" Acceptance Speech transcription: http://archive.vn/KhTXi / http://web.archive.org/web/20190925112507/https://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009-hp-lovecraft-film-festival-dan.html

Dan O'Bannon H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival 2009 Howie Award, PART 1: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=FG2JRNVji-8

Dan O'Bannon 2009 Howie Award Acceptance H.P. Lovecraft Film Fest, PART 2 (Final): https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=qrR_9l4HUHw

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 No.16713 [Open thread]

i m a 19 year old boy. i have read dostoevsky, Jack London, Maupassant and bunch of other good writers. I have a fairly good taste in music ( at least I think so). I am a NEET. I really want to be a singer and a writer. I,m broke, I can,t find a job, I don,t even have a penny. I can,t even tell my parents what I want because I,m afraid they won,t understand. Plus I,m super introverted, i don,t like seeing or meeting people. I don,t know what to do. Give me some advice for gods sake so, I won,t kill myself. I don,t wanna die!!!

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 No.16715

I'd start by not visiting anonymous imageboards tbqh.

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 No.16716

Make a living off a patreon for erotic sonic fanfiction.

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 No.16718

>>16715

top it off by stop using the internet all together.

might be tough as shit, but it will probably be for the best

do you want to write and sing?

ready, set, go

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 No.16764

File: 04b9605c0429a2c⋯.jpg (28.68 KB,261x382,261:382,CityofNightRechy.jpg)

hmmmm if you're serious about some creative endeavour, young man, particularly writing - and you are on a literature board here - you're going to need some experience in life to convey. Solipsism has been bashed to death.

have you thought of becoming a toyboy? If you appeal to a cultured independent gentleman, you may find a lot of support to pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Rechy's City of Night is a good place to start.

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 No.16022 [Open thread]

How would I go write an alternate history novel about ethnic Europeans living under fascism, specifically under a victorious Imperial Japan in former Australia?

I've already got a vague idea of some of it, just wondering what lit could contribute.

> Europeans live at the bottom of the racial hierarchy "lower than chankoro"

> Europeans live inside ghettos, ramshackle and overcrowded. If they go outside the ghettos they are expected to be deferential to the Japanese colonisers and their second-class Korean and Japanese subjects. There are frequent lynchings of Europeans from Eucalyptus trees which the Japanese regularly ignore, alongside pogroms.

> Patrols of IJA often kidnap and whisk away European women who are never seen again or otherwise return brutalised and traumatised.

>The Japanese Empire is locked in a Cold War with the Third Reich which is about to go hot. The war will become a WWI style stalemate.

> Third Reich affiliated rebels constantly try to overthrow Japanese rule on the continent, only to be defeated and experimented on by unit 731. The only meaningful resistance is a couple of disparate communist cells which bide their time.

> The Japanese constantly bait their Chinese and Korean and other Asiatic subjects against the Europeans to keep them divided. The Chinese and Koreans don't have it much better than the Europeans, considered inferior to the Japanese.

> Karl Marx's memory and legacy is demonized as an evil white subversive who wishes to overthrow rightful Yamato supremacy over inferior Europeans. "Cultural Marxism" is a Japanese conspiracy theory about Europeans trying to corrupt "beautiful Asiatic souls" into joining with Europeans against "wise Japanese stewardship" . IJA propaganda constantly harps on about how "White Marxists" want "Yamato Genocide".

> Our protagonist, An "honorary Yamato" university student of indeterminate race who lives near the ghetto becomes fascinated with the white commies.

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 No.16059

You could start by writing a page.

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 No.16701

karl marx was a jew

your a fucking idiot who shouldn't be writing anything if you don't know about jews and your on this website

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 No.16752

File: c16bb2e0e342d37⋯.png (274.81 KB,359x400,359:400,ClipboardImage.png)

Sounds fascinating. Set up seems like Naughts and Crosses (alternate world when West African treasure ships arrived in Europe 3000 years ago and Europe is ruled by people of African descent).

I have some tips:

> Set it in the future

>Cyberpunk tech: genetic testing, surveillance, micro-chipping whites

>Eroticism (particularly BDSM race-play)

>Have it character driven rather than plot driven

>Larger events in this would could be revealed either in the form of news broadcasts and conversations

>Re latter, have differing accounts as the agenda of the government changes

>Drop the communism aspect and replace it with liberalism or social democracy

Also, I would suggest:

>Reading other books of this genre

>Reading the blogs of your favourite authors as well as 'making of' books

>Read the book pictured

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 No.16679 [Open thread]

I barely remember these (In-fact, I'm not sure I've ever read them). Were they any good, even considering the target audience?

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 No.16705

>>16679

they were pretty good, as the target audience at the time. Applegate got away with a lot of crazy, fucked-up shit

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 No.16731

>>16705

> Applegate got away with a lot of crazy, fucked-up shit

like?

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 No.16333 [Open thread]

Well?

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 No.16714

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>>16712

Okay. Finished.

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 No.16717

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I've transcended my ignorance. Here is your complimentary suppository.

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 No.16720

>>16688

>>16712

>>16714

>>16717

Thanks for these.

Any more suggestions on materials and techniques to improve reading ability, comprehension and thinking skills? What about improving the functioning of the brain on a physiological level?

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 No.16724

>>16333

why did you drop out

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 No.16725

>>16720

Warning: Ccru is a meme addition so I might replace it with Jussim's "Social Perception Social Reality: Why Accuracy Dominates Bias and Self-Fulfilling Prophecy".

If you want brain control you need to study philosophy, mathematics and computer science. Then 'games' as in puzzles from the perspective of game theory or mathematics/computer science and try to see if anything has any relevance to philosophical topics or whether it poses unique philosophical questions (possibly with corresponding answer(s) ). Social interaction or the addition of the social element to anything is often composed of many many games you can dominate or master, so dominating the 'social sphere' or any sphere where the social has an impact will definitely improve your cognitive power.

Reaching for the squishier side of things you get neuroscience or cognitive biology often with a mathematical/game theory and computer science lens. There's also nootropics, and a broad body of medical literature for various dietary aids to boosting cognitive ability, and the various physical practices that boost cognitive ability (such as meditation – specifically breath-focus meditation).

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 No.15479 [Open thread]

Mine's Existentialist Aristotelianism

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 No.16425

p-bump

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 No.16452

>>16420

>Pretentiousism

interesting

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 No.16498

>>16424

Just read every philosopher's works in chronological order dipshit.

https://www.albumangelorum.com

>>15485

Were you raped? My condolences.

>>15487

So you're the architect of your own being. Are you OCD and accomplish very little in general, and maybe some highly specific but critically flawed or deficient achievements? Are you the "I COULD but I DON'T" type? Are all your experience points spent on this philosophy? Did you make a terrible mistake in following through on this character idea? Should we reroll?

>>15488

So when do you autism and when do you don't? Does your autism seek redemption from its Evolian hell; is this the struggle that gives your life meaning? Is all redemption incomplete, illusory and self-deceiving, and thus you must reduce yourself to your most autistic evolianism, to start over again from scratch, to map hell to earth in completeness? Will you then transcend up to a comfortable purgatory and become an Egoistic Hermeticist with Stoic elements that believes that objects partake in irreducible Platonic concepts in order to gain "being"?

>>15493

Is this Evolian Autism?

>>15494

An absolute egoic joker and provocateur (madlad)?

>>15503

ThPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.16698

>>16498

>Were you raped? My condolences

Fucking KEK

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 No.16709

This thread is fucking ridiculous. Watching you people name your philosophies islike watching /leftypol/tards declare themselves "stirnerite maoist-marxists with a hint of esoteric hoxhaism," or watching tumblrites demand you recognize their identities as "otherkin(fairy) genderqueer trans-turtle demiamorous asexuals with headmates." Get a fucking grip; you're not special for making up excessively long snowflake labels.

Diogenic Catholic pessimist with a pinch Chestertonian distributism here btw.

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