/lit/ - Literature

>>15605

He's using the correlating conjunction not only, but also, and the person in the pic should have looked up "dummy it".

>>15606

And I'm a retard who should have read the reply chain before posting.

>>15590

based. at least someone here is honest

hmmmm…I'll bite. depends on whether you want fiction or non-fiction

>>15694

https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg!o0Uk3KTJ

if youre interested in pol's books.

>>10508

Yet it all-but invented an entire genre

Also, how in your mind does creating a mythology qualify it as "literature"?

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>>10588

Literature and myth are completely unrelated to one another, and any mythical accounts in those works are completely unrelated to their status as literature. Else, any contrived fantasy schlock, no matter how pedestrian, would automately be "literature". If you can't understand this, there's no help for you.

>>16108

Why would aliens give someone's cat a beard?

maybe new posters will come on in

sorry /lit/ is not normally /fit/ OP

Isn't this exactly like when /v/ buys a game they never play, so they're essentially giving money for technically little return?

>>16138

The return is you get to post in this thread and be /devilish/. That's good enough.

>>16141

Isn't it more angelic that you gave someone a sale without actually putting what you bought to use?

>>16149

Not if we're talking about being fiscally responsible.

Is it a cancelled show or is this one of those affirmative action things that'll keep on chugging despite all odds.

>14yo black girl instead of 10yo white girl

disgusting

dropped before even picking up

Fuck, sorry for the grammar error in the subject, severe insomnia is the cause.

Philosophy is essential to fiction. Author’s philosophical impulses is very important part for writing in general. Very often I have come across such situations where the analysis of the idea of the author of a work is necessary in order to understand his true philosophical intentions. PapersOwl was also important part for custom essay writing, especially for me and for my essay on the topic of "author’s philosophical impulses"

On some level philosophy is needed to make a clever piece of art and understand how to make it.

However a story does not need philosophy.

fiction is born of philosophy

great art is created through either expression of insight or exploration of concepts, and is magnified by technical skill

this is why modern art appears so vacuous; hubris defines it, just as it defines modern philosophy

Honest advice: you're too old to start and maybe you simply don't like reading. Maybe it isn't for you. "Plato, Kant, Smith" you're just spouting memes, boi. Most importantly, the idea that reading books makes you smarter is the dumbest memes. I know a lot of idiotic bookworms. They rip through books and come out dumber.

Read Nietzsche's Zarathustra or Beyond Good and Evil like some anon said, and if it doesn't make you feel like your blood is boiling, forget about books, they're not meant from you. Get your wisdom elsewere.

>>16004

This is a good idea. Russell's work is known to be unfairly critical in philosophers who hold ideas contrary to his own. I would say begin with Plato, and then figure out which issues Plato discussed that interest you specifically. Then read Aristotle's treatment of the topic. From there you can try to follow the issue by school of thought(Platonism is a rich history, commentators on Aristotle generally arrive later but are no less influential) or by topic. You could also go back to the pre-Socratics if Plato's and Aristotle's treatment of their ideas wasn't to your likingThough IIRC there isn't such a great amount of their works still available. Lots of stuff is learned by Plato's and Aristotle's accounts of them

There is generally a decisive split in philosophy centered around the time of Galileo and the scientific revolution. It is possible to view this as a return to a certain pre-socratic view of the world and in some cases this assessment is accurate. Certainly it builds up differently, but the core ideas that motivated modern philosophy can be glimpsed in the thoughts of the pre-socratics. Anyways, If after you read Plato and Aristotle, and decide you really disagree with what they are saying, then you could look for the moderns and contemporaries on the same topics and see if that more aligns with you.

>>16014

>"Plato, Kant, Smith" you're just spouting memes, boi.

Obviously that is what he is doing, he doesn't know where to begin so what else can he do? A person new to carpentry will obviously say "I need a hammer, nails and a saw right?", why should a person new to philosophy not say the same?

>>16004

It took you two fucking years to reply to that, OP. If you haven't read the entirety of western philosophy by now then you were never really serious about this.

>>13179

>I suggest just skipping all of the Greek philosophers, they are memes

Ignore this retard

>>13179

>greek philosophers are memes

<ebola is totally legit and high iq though

Is there a rule against writing fiction in 2nd person?

Personally I find it far easier to get across what I want to convey by writing the main character in 2nd person, then side characters as 3rd. Any recommendations, should I rewrite what I have so far into 3rd person or stick to my guns?

>>14637

There's no rule as such. It's usually considered a usual error of a neophyte writer, one struggling with the whole idea of POV and how to deploy it. For commercial fiction it's discouraged as being unpleasant for the common reader.

Reasons in favor of using it include: attempting a specific effect on the reader where it would serve such, as a form of high literary technique for where nothing less than avant-garde would do, and purely as an exercise.

If you are looking for common readers to view your work you have to be careful, and fairly well experienced as a writer, to accomplish this.

>>14615

>Am I a dope for making an extensive history to my world that'll never get used in full?

Take it as a challenge to get more creative with how you think through and write the details of your story. Whatever bits of the history you're coming up with you don't think you can find an organic place for in your story - find an organic place for each of them anyway.

>>14637

>>14638

In addition, you want to be sure that character is engagingly sympathetic, or intensely interesting (or better, both!) to your readership.

>>14637

No, but maybe give an example of what you mean so we can judge better.

>>16039

Does internet magazines count? I like Abyss & Apex.

>>16043

>Does internet magazines count?

It honestly seems like that's about all that there is these days. Is Clarkesworld any good?

>>14522

[spoiler] Flavour Town [spoiler]

>>14522

Honestly, I would look for an english teacher or somebody who reads a lot of short stories.

Don't forget that everybody has a different opinion on how writing should be, so don't take what they say to heart, but compare it with what you know. "Is what their saying biased?", "Are they comparing basic structure not personal preferences?" Don't ever take what people say 100%, make sure their feedback is not bias and your good to go.

Good luck

Entirely wrong way to go about things in my opinion. First, you should have read enough to know what you like and what you don't like. When you find yourself rewriting sentences, improving confusing descriptions, repairing plot holes, etc. - then your education is gaining momentum. Finally when everything you read is shit, and the only way out is to create your own holy work: this is the time to start writing. But even then, you are writing for yourself and nobody else. Feedback? Are you fucking kidding me? Writers who depend upon feedback is the reason there is so much shit.

>>14522

>Where do you go to get feedback on your writing? I'd rather not post my shit on 8ch or Wizardchan but they're the only places outside of Reddit I know with writing communities who aren't pozzed to shit.

Why does it matter to you?

>>14522

I had private classes with people (authors) who offered their services thru facebook. I read some of their work and appreciated it, so I showed them muh shit.

I think its a great place to start, if you find a honest and talented teacher. They wont hold their punches if you don't flinch (so don't!) and you will grow a lot.

Of course they will heavily influence you but its your job to make sure of keeping your own literay strand untouched.

The best method of learning is and will always be reading moar