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Anonymous 04/22/17 (Sat) 22:33:42 No.12581 [Open thread]

I was tired of listening to indies talking more about book covers than actually writing. So, I made a thing about it.

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Anonymous 04/23/17 (Sun) 18:53:05 No.12588

>>12581

i think that people who does that simply likes the idea of being a writer.

let them entertain the thought of being artists, what's it to you?

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Anonymous 05/14/17 (Sun) 09:05:31 No.12679

>>12581

works for me

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Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 17:50:36 No.14145

>>12581

cool

a published author in our midst

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Anonymous 09/29/16 (Thu) 19:45:19 No.11285 [Open thread]

Should it be mandatory reading in the Jewnited States?

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Anonymous 09/30/16 (Fri) 16:01:41 No.11293

>>11285

at the very least you could have picked this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World

*tips the atheist hat

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Anonymous 10/02/16 (Sun) 21:34:23 No.11316

>mandatory anything

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Anonymous 01/14/18 (Sun) 15:11:07 No.14003

No. Dawkins is a faggot. Separation of church and state was the worst thing we ever did.

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Anonymous 01/15/18 (Mon) 19:49:39 No.14007

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>>11285

No, because there is much better.

Much better as in, say, a history lesson masquerading as speculative "future" fiction.

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Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 16:38:39 No.14139

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>>11285

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Anonymous 09/24/17 (Sun) 08:25:39 No.13558 [Open thread]

wanting to read a few books at once

I have some Clive Barker novels

some Tom Clancy books

some Dean Koontz

a ton of Warhammer lore

and political philosophy books

ok, since I already started reading one of the Warhammer books

which of the other four should I start reading?

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Anonymous 10/04/17 (Wed) 22:47:56 No.13608

>>13558

One of the political philosophy books.

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Anonymous 02/25/18 (Sun) 17:53:42 No.14114

no chance of the metal gear novelisation's being translated

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Anonymous 02/26/18 (Mon) 12:38:19 No.14120

>>13608

A plus to use pol.philosophy as a point of association with other books too. I know Tom Clancy's theme often chimes with such discussion areas.

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Anonymous 02/13/18 (Tue) 12:36:23 No.14095 [Open thread]

Hi /lit/. I'm planning to publish my first short story online. I'm thinking about posting it on Kindle for free, but I'm willing to consider other options. Asking for advice here. Thanks

Pic unrelated

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Anonymous 02/13/18 (Tue) 14:22:24 No.14096

What do you mean by first? First you want to properly publish, or first one you are going to let anyone read in the internet? In either case, iIf it's going to be free, you might as well post it somewhere where you'd get useful critique. Now, that place would depend on what you have written.

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Anonymous 02/13/18 (Tue) 19:30:42 No.14097

>>14096

First to properly publish. I've posted shit before but it was mostly just essays and articles. This is the first time I'm posting fiction (sci-fi/politics), and I'm looking for a place where that would get a lot of traffic.

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Claude Guillon and Yves Le Bonniec Anonymous 01/28/18 (Sun) 04:40:45 No.14034 [Open thread]

Has anyone read Suicide: Mode di Emploi? I'm looking for it… if anyone has a copy. : /

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Anonymous 01/30/18 (Tue) 22:30:16 No.14044

Delete yourself next time.

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Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 22:32:11 No.14048

>>14044

don't respond to this

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Anonymous 02/10/18 (Sat) 10:12:24 No.14087

bump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Manual_of_Suicide maybe this will help for now

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How much embellishment is too much when writing historical fiction? Anonymous 02/04/18 (Sun) 04:20:13 No.14058 [Open thread]

I've heard some people say that it's poor writing to off the rails when writing historical fiction. Apparently, it's okay to have things like magic and fictional creatures, but when you add things King Arthur defeating Rome in "Historia Regum Britanniae" or Tirant saving Constantinople from the Turks in "Tirant lo Blanch" it pushes the suspension of disbelief too far. What are your thoughts on this?

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Anonymous 02/04/18 (Sun) 08:04:15 No.14062

It seems rather disingenuous to use old romances as examples when talking about writing historical fiction as a genre. Still, I'm going to assume there isn't a joke I don't get.

Alternative history is considered a different genre for a reason of basic audience expectations and going completely off the rails like in Tirant lo Blanc would annoy people who wanted historical fiction instead of wacky revanchist wishfulfillment. On the other hand supernatural elements are often clear on the premise, and if they aren't, their sudden unforeshadowed inclusion will usually annoy the audience. Still, light supernatural elements (especially if they are subjective enough to fall into the unreliability of the narrator) can be used as a device to make the characters' historical superstitions seems important instead of just plain dumb waste of time.

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Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 16:40:36 No.14140

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>>14062

>wacky revanchist wishfulfillment

Oh, anon, how I chuckled

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Anonymous 03/24/19 (Sun) 23:42:35 No.16006

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Anonymous 03/25/19 (Mon) 01:12:29 No.16009

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Unsettling Books and DDLC Anonymous 12/25/17 (Mon) 03:21:33 No.13928 [Open thread]

I recently finished Doki Doki Literature Club. I thought it was a pretty cool idea to take some tropes and invert them and then deconstruct them. First, after I finished the VN, I thought it didn't really live up to the hype that I had read on many places on the internet, but my mind keeps returning to it. I think one of the things that is most memorable to me is how even though I pretty much knew what was going to happen when I first started reading, the twist of the game still gave me goosebumps. Therefore, I'm wondering if any similar works of literary fiction exist where characters and a setting are introduced and then completely inverted similar to DDLC. Additionally, do any of you happen to know any good generally unsettling/scary books in general? A few months ago I read a lot of Thomas Liggoti and really enjoyed his stuff, so anything similar to that would be awesome. Thanks.

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Anonymous 01/25/18 (Thu) 23:26:24 No.14027

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>I thought it was a pretty cool idea to take some tropes and invert them and then deconstruct them

That says more about you than about the game, really. 'Deconstructing tropes' is literally the basis for all postmodernism, and at this point it's about as uninspired as the tropes themselves.

It isn't the first game to do this, it isn't the first book to do this, and it even isn't the first VN to do this.

Then, if you take away the ostensibly novel twist the VN revolves around, you're left with basically nothing.

DDLC is pretty much a nescient hack's attempt at creating viceral or striking content that ironically ends up having less depth than the visual novels it attempts to lampoon.

You only liked it because the girl who was cute (which, surprise surprise, was a trope left uninverted) said she loved you.

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Anonymous 01/26/18 (Fri) 01:44:43 No.14028

>>14027

>if you take away the ostensibly novel twist the VN revolves around, you're left with basically nothing.

The twist ends up being the premise for the real meat of the story, though. If you take away the premise for any given story, you're usually left with nothing.

It's like saying that Gakkou Gurashi is terrible because if you take away the twist you're left with poorly-written moeshit.

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Anonymous 01/26/18 (Fri) 02:19:40 No.14029

>>14028

>The twist ends up being the premise for the real meat of the story, though

I know what you're trying to say, but consider that in a good piece of media (like the 6th sense) the twist substantiates the story in a way that I don't see in DDLC. There isn't really a story to care about before the twist happens if you get what I'm saying, which means that DDLC ends up feeling empty.

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Anonymous 01/26/18 (Fri) 02:55:45 No.14030

>>14029

I'd completely agree if it had ended at Sayori's suicide, and while I'll admit that the story in the "second playthrough" onward wasn't entirely original, I still felt like it was enjoyable enough to make the buildup worth it.

I get it if you feel like you wasted your time, since the buildup did go on for a while, but I still feel like that was necessary to get the feel of what it was "supposed" to be before Monika started screwing with shit. I guess they could have made the buildup shorter, but it wouldn't have really made sense for Monika to lose her patience earlier than she did.

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Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 13:20:23 No.14047

>>13928

Eh, I'd recommend an Ice-Pick Lodge game, or, hell, one of those humble old games like Irisu Syndrome way over Doki-Doki Literature Club.

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Operation Information Liberation Anonymous 01/30/18 (Tue) 19:43:23 No.14041 [Open thread]

Operation Information Liberation *CROSSPOST*

>Original Post

>https://8ch.net/pol/res/11205392.html#11205721

The online digital age has rendered institutionalized education obsolete and has left them exposed as the detriments to society that they have become. Colleges no longer exist to educate, but to indoctrinate. And to add insult to injury, we're paying through the nose for the right to have our youth brainwashed against us by these narcissistic ingrates.

No More.

This is a project that, in time, will be cross-posted across numerous boards, platforms & media, taking participation from numerous communities with Truth being our guiding light and uniting purpose. This project is designed to provide and highlight alternatives to mainstream universities, or at least offer an inoculation against the Marxist intellectual contagion perpetuated by these Institutions of Higher Indoctrination. For the fields that can't just be done online, and require some sort of hard infrastructure, like a chemistry lab, we may want to consider utilizing, or copying the Maker Space route of community educational facilities.

We will need to find alternatives to accreditation.

This project will also need an accompanying meme campaign to get Normans, especially in the hiring class to associate a traditional college degree with risk. Risk that the person will be some sort of entitled SJW. Risk that they may file false sexual harassment claims (Humungus). Risk that they may be incompetent at their job.

The Class of 2018 graduates in May. I imagine high-schools will be having college days, fliers, trips, speakers, recruiters, field days, etc throughout March and April. When that begins, I'd like to see this project ready enough to print out business cards with the links and downloads for all the resources and content we'll be compiling.

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Anonymous 01/30/18 (Tue) 19:43:45 No.14042

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=R3Ovrhrf9BQ - Jack Otto - Forbidden Knowledge

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=j800SVeiS5I - In Shadow - A Modern Oddesey

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=PRdcZSuCpNo - 7 Days of DeepMind A.I.

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=cRuKmxQSPSw - Dutch Banker Ronald Bernard - Interview

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=sD33byzG2jc - Behold a Pale Horse - AudioBook

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=VL_7nAIa0Cg - Bloodlines of Illuminate - AudioBook

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=fj-10lIrboM - Tool - Right In Two

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=icAjo9VXKZU - Protocol Of The Elders Of Zion

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=e0C_qG5U7pE - Black Ops, Cody Snodgres, Operator Comes Forward And Tells All

https://www.hooktube.com/user/MrTeslonian - Mr Teslonian - Alternative Energy & Technology

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Anonymous 01/30/18 (Tue) 20:41:12 No.14043

>Maker Media

Dunno what a 3D printing / Popular Mechanics magazine advertisement has to do with literary interests. I guess we can let things sit for a bit and see what people have to say?

Their past magazine issues are available in the usual sharing locations. There is that.

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Any good prefaces/introductions/commentaries on Tao Te Ching? newfag 01/12/18 (Fri) 10:01:15 No.14000 [Open thread]

A-asking for a friend uwu

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Anonymous 01/24/18 (Wed) 21:20:54 No.14024

https://youtu.be/UxEvRoAaYBM

http://ctext.org/zhuangzi

http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/mcm/index.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9zocKASsM

these are good.

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calibre // better never to have been Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 21:32:44 No.14011 [Open thread]

Can anyone experienced with calibre please turn this into a decent mobi for my old shit ereader ? I keep trying but the paragraphs get fucked and there's a lot of space between lines.

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Anonymous 01/17/18 (Wed) 22:42:23 No.14012

I ain't no ebook typesettin wiz. I'll give it a shot. Check back tomorrow.

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Romance Lit: For Men Anonymous 08/23/17 (Wed) 00:42:46 No.13364 [Open thread]

up /lit/. I read pics related, and while they were decent scifi adventure romps (Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion, in contrast, were spectacular imo), the romance between the two main characters really stuck with me.

Since then, I've been wondering what other books, classic or modern, have a truly engaging love story.

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Anonymous 12/27/17 (Wed) 20:04:10 No.13956

>>13955

Books contain pointless pages and chapters all the time.

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Anonymous 12/27/17 (Wed) 20:33:58 No.13957

>>13954

I wasn't talking about save/load. Pretty much every visual novel allows you to scroll back through text that you've already read past. Save/load is more like a bookmark.

>It's even worse that typically the visuals are not redundant, but they are used so that the text can focus on the characters' ceaseless yapping.

I'm talking about the medium itself, not typically bad writing. I completely agree that the writing is typically bad, and I think it's a waste of a medium that has some great potential.

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Anonymous 12/28/17 (Thu) 08:57:03 No.13960

>>13953

I just finished it. I enjoyed it.

Part of me wants to doubt your claim about nips since the plot feels very inspired by the first HakoMari book, but that didn't really have the "meta" element, so you still may be right.

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Anonymous 01/14/18 (Sun) 18:11:21 No.14004

>>13957

It's not the writing, it's that the intention of the writing is related to emotions and other personal things which the reader cannot participate in, no matter what they say about empathy for fictional things.

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Anonymous 01/15/18 (Mon) 17:36:45 No.14006

>>14004

I don't understand what your point is. How is that different from normal novels?

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Anonymous 12/23/17 (Sat) 13:52:31 No.13917 [Open thread]

Okay /lit/ I get two extra random books at Barnes and Noble what say you?

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Anonymous 12/23/17 (Sat) 19:19:29 No.13918

Oh. Wow. Are they, like, still in business?

Maybe I'm thinking of Boarders. It's been a hellofa long time since I stepped foot into a B&N though.

Two items? First suggestions, for the good of the board:

>>13855

1. The She-Devils by Pierre Louÿs.

2. Disagreeable Tales by Léon Bloy.

My personal suggestions:

1. United States: Essays 1952-1992 by Gore Vidal.

2. Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon.

For the lulz:

1. Storm and Echo by Frederic Prokosch. (Tongue in cheek shaggy retelling of Heart of Darkness by Conrad. It only really flies if you've already read HoD.)

2. Duluth by Gore Vidal. (Vidal strikes back at Pynchon specifically, and post-modernism in general, with this Alexander Pope inspired beatum stick.)

Fun from left field:

1. Any two non-pornographic furry SciFi novels by Paul Lucas.

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Anonymous 12/23/17 (Sat) 19:42:21 No.13920

Wait, Barnes and Nobles sells books?

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Anonymous 01/14/18 (Sun) 15:09:31 No.14002

lol I'm banned from there

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Spanish Poetry and Literature Anonymous 09/29/17 (Fri) 21:40:07 No.13592 [Open thread]

Post suggestions for Spanish and Latin American poetry and literature. I've been digging Federico Garcia Lorca and Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

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Anonymous 11/02/17 (Thu) 03:02:47 No.13713

>>13592

>One hundred anus of solitude

ññññññññññññññññññññññññññ

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Anonymous 11/03/17 (Fri) 08:32:11 No.13723

>>13713

I'm sorry, I don't use an international keyboard and can't be bothered to copy and paste.

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Anonymous 11/15/17 (Wed) 17:26:14 No.13760

>how can universe be real if mirrors are real

Please explain Borges to me.

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Anonymous 11/22/17 (Wed) 04:03:11 No.13785

>>13760

It's overrated sudaquian shit.

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Anonymous 01/11/18 (Thu) 02:48:30 No.13996

Bolaño my blue chilean boy

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Anonymous 01/08/18 (Mon) 16:37:34 No.13990 [Open thread]

yo this board is lit af fam

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Anonymous 01/09/18 (Tue) 17:44:38 No.13991

We doin a'ight, all things considered.

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Anonymous 11/16/17 (Thu) 08:07:44 No.13761 [Open thread]

Whats the best order to read Tolkien's work in if you're already familar and have read the hobbit before and some of lotr

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Anonymous 11/16/17 (Thu) 16:44:02 No.13764

I imagine finishing LoTR would be a good start. Though, with the movies you only need to read Silmarillion for the shitposting.

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Anonymous 11/17/17 (Fri) 19:06:03 No.13771

>>13761

>some of lotr

Finish the damn books. Then read either Children of Hurin or Silmarillion, whichever is more your speed.

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Anonymous 01/04/18 (Thu) 06:43:54 No.13979

This might be a dead thread but does anyone else have a love hate relationship with the Hobbit?

I enjoy reading most of it but I think the barrels sequence took me out of it. Idk it seemed dumb.

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Anonymous 01/05/18 (Fri) 05:27:41 No.13982

>>13979

I found the barrels scene fine. The Hobbit is a lighthearted fairy-tale children's story at its core.

Did you see the lotr films before reading it? There's a bit of a feedback loop in the cultural consciousness that muddy's the distinct tones of each book imo.

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Anonymous 01/06/18 (Sat) 18:54:26 No.13986

>>13982

Yeah I've seen the Lotr films and the first two Hobbit ones. Couldn't say I enjoyed the Hobbit ones. Didn't realize how much Jackson butchered it.

>The Hobbit is a lighthearted fairy-tale children's story at its core.

Yeah it's not as devolved as Tolkien's other works because I don't think he expected it to be successful enough for a sequel.

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