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 No.56321

Can someone help me or guide me with kinesis classes or magic?

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 No.56336

Can you be more specific? Do you have a question or are you completely new?

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 No.56338

>>56336

First: thank you for you attention

Second:I'm completely new on the subject, can you help me?

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 No.56346

>>56338

I don't even know where I should begin then. The first questions you should have is something like, what is magic and what is the history of magic? I still don't even know if psychic ability and magic should be under the same umbrella or if they are fundamentally different. What I've concluded very recently is that magic may be in two main forms, one where magic comes from you, or one where magic comes from a spirit that is not any of your own spirits if you were to believe in concepts like different parts of the soul and a higher self. I'll have to think of this some more but the more formal categorizations of magic generally reflect this, like sigil magic being personal but Goetic is spirit interaction.

Ceremonial magic is one group of magic that is what many people consider to be Western magic, but it derives from Mediterranean and Middle Eastern traditions, while excluding folk magic from the West. Folk magic is like any indigenous form of magic from across the world, so stuff like runes, galdr, house spirits, shamanism, and to a lesser extent voodoo. Voodoo has been influenced from Ceremonial magic and classifies more towards medieval magic. medieval magic is like a blending of different magical traditions, which gave form to alchemy and Icelandic magic. Alchemy has ancient roots from the Middle East but greatly changed in the Medieval period. Chaos magic is basically magic outside of magical orders and mystery schools, but usually more experimental than folk magic tends to be. Ceremonial magic and Medieval magic are often the same, and often involve Abrahamic religions. Folk magic is usually pagan and animist. Psychic ability is discussed throughout all culture but didn't really take off as a field of study until modern times with stuff like dream interpretation and remote viewing. Eastern magic involves Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, and Shinto. Religion will get confusing so you will need to see how spiritualism, religion, and magic are all separate things but very interconnected. Eastern magic is often tied to martial arts, but Western magic often benefits from this too, which is why you may see stuff life yoga overlapping everything. Native American magic is mostly animistic ritual.

To better place magic into context, you're also going to need to understand the origins of magical traditions to better understand the world in which the techniques derive. So history, science, mythology, folklore, religion, philosophy, and language are to be expected. Anthropology, geography, and psychology are especially useful. Physics is also useful. Chemistry actually came out of alchemy, and physiology and geometry developed in ancient Greece. Geometry is apparently important to freemasonry but I never got into freemasonry or geomancy. Covens, lodges, and temples are all names for places and/or groups of people. Abrahamic religions have their origins with Zoroastrianism, Egypt, Babylon, and Buddhism, but are more like a corruption of these older traditions.

Magic usually comes from your subconscious more than your conscious, or more like your heart more than your mind. This isn't the most accurate description and is more than half a description, but just assume you are always in a state of projecting magic. So fear and negative emotions/thoughts need to be avoided as using magic will amplify these. This is why you need to look inside yourself, hold yourself accountable for all of your mistakes, and always question why you think the way you do. Pay attention to your intuition, signs that grab your attention, and dreams.

My posts can only be so long so I'll break here and paste the next half under this post.

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 No.56347

>>56346

>>56338

From here, you'll have to read tons of books and be set on a journey that never really ends. Because of just how much information is available, you can be into magic for over ten years and still feel like beginner. Academia tends to word things differently from classic authors, so a book on anthropology will be wildly different from a book on magic. I can't get too deep into all the technicalities here so you'll have to get used to those on your own time. For most types of magic, I would suggest you start by reading The Corpus Hermeticum, The Kybalion, Initiation into Hermetics, The Four Books of Occult Philosophy of Agrippa, and Modern Magick. They'll make no sense at first but read them anyways. These books are something of the standard foundation for magic. I never made a list of books yet to be placed in order for someone new to magic but I've been needing to get around to creating a logically ordered book list or chart. Shamanism by Roger Walsh and Healing States by Alberto Villoldo and Stanley Krippner are good starts for Shamanism. Norse and rune magic should be started with Stephen Flowers, but I would really suggest understanding the runes from an academic/historical view as well since his books aren't a complete look on historical runes, so he gets some criticism but I don't think you can go too wrong with him. There are probably some other books I should include for beginners that I can't think of right now. Most of these books can be found online for download but they are usually cheap in paperback, like Amazon once had a Hermeticism Collection that was four books for under $10 but I don't see it anymore. Manly P. Hall is a popular choice for beginners. Avoid jumping into Aleister Crowley as his books aren't beginner level. I'm personally not big on him but he is very popular for many reasons. You need to familiarize yourself with Carl Jung even if he is mostly philosophy and psychology. Jungian psychology is highly valuable.

If you want to jump straight into using magic, then candle magic and sigils are good places to start. For divination, the tarot is probably the best place to start, with any version of the Waite deck preferably, such as Universal Waite. Avoid Ouija or anything that involves you having a spirit work through you. Learn the banishing ritual of the pentagram and learn how to focus your psychic defenses. Don't use curses or attacks on others unless you really need to, as your focus on this can easily go both ways. Remember how Newtonian physics teaches that opposite and equal reaction. The laws of physics actually apply to magic in practice surprisingly well for whatever reason.

After all of that, that should help you have an idea on what to look up for more information. Image boards aren't the best place for advice, so supplement us with esoteric podcasts and read book reviews. Many people on YouTube explain things very well, if you can avoid the New Age Wicca scene.

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 No.56351

>>56347

Thank you for your recommendation but what book I can start and keep progressing to more complex things?

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 No.56354

>>56351

What to you want to do with magic and what type of magic are you most interested in?

Books on magic usually aren't in any progressive order. At least in my case anyways, I find that I'll read through many of them and jump between them. I was never formally introduced/inducted into magic, so I just keep learning as much as I can over time. I've gotten to the point where I've become more interested in the history of magicians than magic itself as a practice.

If you have no real direction, then starting with spiritual philosophy might be better than magic since it will give you more to learn for now. I never got into summoning spirits so I can't give advice there, except to follow the rules, since I've heard it can be dangerous to summon something and put yourself outside of a protection circle before banishing it. Spirits are weird, so be precise as possible if requesting help from one.

Modern Magick by Donald Michael Kraig is probably the type of book you want. It is designed to be entry-level and is full of plenty of exercises, making it the most popular self-guided book on magic. There are plenty of fundamental concepts also included. I actually never went that route myself but it's a good well-rounded book that can lead to more complex things.

If you're interested in the tarot, you should watch a video on YouTube called "The 21 Faces of God (long-form version)" by Robert Bonomo, and then read Carl Jung.

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 No.56358

>>56354

>What to you want to do with magic and what type of magic are you most interested in?

In the magic white, black and spiritual

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 No.56359

>>56358

All magic is spiritual and there is no real class of white and black, those are just modern concepts. Like curses are a form of black magic and healing is a form of white magic, but the techniques used to do both magics is the same under many systems.

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 No.56360

>>56359

So for what you told me I can start whit the magic, no?

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 No.56362

>>56360

If you want.

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 No.56377

>>56362

Ok, thank you very much

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 No.56386

So essentially to start you have to become more “conscious” in a way? I have already started working on steps towards that before i considered magic can anyone give me an example of how i would go about starting a sigil?

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 No.56397

You aren't bending the spoon, you're bending yourself.

Focus on your breath. I made a more detailed guide years ago, someone else memorized it and did more work based off of it. This is how they built stonehenge; it is a muscle, use it or lose it.

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 No.56399

>>56397

That actually sounds really familiar. I think I've seen it before.

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