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 No.48427

So is there a set of people out there who genuinely believe there is a massive conspiracy to rewrite history and pretend some unified "Tartary" never existed even though it is clearly a general reference to the lands corresponding to the Golden Horde territories?

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 No.48428

I heard of this conspiracy once but I don't remember most of it. Didn't it involve something like ancient Russians being the main cradle of civilization and philosophy or something like that?

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 No.48429

>>48428

Yes, sort of, but I've seen claims that North America was actually under control of Tartary and that the American Revolution and Napoleon's invasion of Russia were actually secret wars against Tartary. It was covered up retroactively by claiming Napoleon was fighting the Tsar and America was fighting Britain, but in reality they were all fighting against Tartary.

Why this would be covered up is never really explained, since it isn't hidden or esoteric knowledge of Russian's 18th and 19th century military pushes east and south and the khanates they toppled.

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 No.48430

>>48429

It always seemed strange to me how low amounts of people live in eastern Russia. If you browse the area on Bing maps, you'll see a few scattered small villages but the rest if mountain and forest. It's like the prime type of land to build a log cabin in to live in nature, but it's largely avoided. I've heard some weird paranormal stuff goes on in that wilderness but I doubt that could be enough to prevent someone from building a house in the woods.

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 No.48432

>>48430

Certain Mongolian tribes were endowed with telepathic abilities and were killed off after the civil war by the Soviets after getting details research expedition by some hapless goyim because jews are gonna jew, and limit mankind and enlightenment. I don't know anything else about it though.

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 No.48433

One angle to the conspiracy theory that is less supernatural seems to be that the Muscovites were a sort of Western satellite that partook in a civil war within Tartary and then erased history in the eastern portions of the country. So in reality, there is no real difference between Russia and Tartary.

Other aspects include Russia/Tartary/Slavs being the historical founding people of Western civilization. The Etruscans, the Goths, Celts, Scythians, etc.

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 No.48434

>>48433

>Russia/Tartary/Slavs being the historical founding people of Western civilization

Swedish vikings founded Russia.

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 No.48435

>>48434

It's a conspiracy theory, but the gist is that these people were pushing West from Russia long ago and became the people that we would later know them as.

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 No.48437

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>>48428

>>48433

>>48434

Google the Kurgan Hypothesis. It's no conspiracy theory, it's reality.

As for the 18th century thing yeah that's horseshit, pun intended.

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 No.48444

>>48427

The whole 'new chronology' movement would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't in the hands of Russian nationalists and other researchers too eager to jump to conclusions. For example, the idea of 'phantom centuries' being made up by historians to explain alleged 'dark ages' that only exist because of some mistake on their part in establishing correlations between the chronologies of different countries. That'd be worth exploring, in my opinion.

But then you have people like Fomenko who claim that ancient Egypt/Greece/Rome didn't exist, or they actually existed during the middle ages, and his evidence is just ridiculous, I mean I've read some of his stuff and despite not being a historian, I could see the mistakes he made. But Fomenko is taken quite seriously by advocates of the Tartarian conspiracy, unfortunately.

Personally I find it hard to believe, partly because it doesn't really fit into how history seems to work. Look at Napoleon or Hitler, or Emperor Julian, or Nero: after they were defeated they became the object of their opponent's hate, but nobody tried to erase them from history. If this Tartarian empire had actually existed, they would have taught us about it in school, but they would have made it seem less advanced and more violent than it actually was.

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 No.54787

File: 487cbb78d3e3dbc⋯.jpg (73.45 KB, 376x470, 4:5, tartar-imper-flag.jpg)

It's basically like this:

There was a vast Empire on Earth with Classical Greek/Roman architecture.

"i" in dates was turned into "1".

There was a grand mud flood in recent history, possibly changing the landscape forever and burying a lot.

Churches/cathedrals were originally buildings of electricity and enlightment.

Siberia on maps being shown with a lot of named towns.

Images of Tartars looking like Europeans in Asiatic clothes, distinct from Asians.

Wall of China built in fact against China.

"Scratch a Russian and you will find a Tartar" suddenly makes a whole lot of sense.

Tartary itself is mentioned as an empire with flags/banners in history books.

https://www.stolenhistory.org/forums/tartary-a-k-a-tartaria.69/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tfxJmF7fAk

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 No.54797

The entire Tartary conspiracy literally through a monkey wrench into every other history conspiracy. If there is a grand conspiracy that changed every single book in history to mention nothing about this supposedly huge country, than what is the point of any history book then? Why didn't they also take any reference to Atlantis out of all books?

Also how come not a single occult book mentions this place. Did the Masons not know about Tartary?

Every conspiracy is built upon research that past theorists have uncovered. Not a single person has ever mentioned this conspiracy until a few years ago

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 No.54803

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>>54797

and all these ancient maps are just LARPs then? are you listening to yourself? what makes you think you know anything about history?

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 No.54804

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>>54803

are we even living in the same reality?

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 No.55013

This reminds me heavily about the man from a country called Taured, a country which does not exist or seemingly hasn't existed. I wonder if it's part and parcel with this case of Tartary, with re-written history.

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 No.55061

>>54797

No person is omniscient and a person occupied with one topic will be ignorant of other topics.

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