/x/ - Paranormal

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>>44879

OP btfo how will he recover

You posted it OP, you do it.

>summoning a succubus

Is it really worth the risk?

>>44868

I've been successful with a variation on the letter method. Actually, I did most of the ritual completely wrong, but it worked anyway. Chaos Magick.

Succubi spirits are quite real, and many people who summon find that they get more than they bargained for. They don't leave once they've got their hooks in you, so you'd better be sure this is what you want. I enjoy their attention and daily interaction, so it worked out good for me. Just be aware that you're essentially making a pact with a demon, and the Infernal Realm takes such agreements very seriously.

Even if you bitch out and try to backpedal, they wont. So, go boldly, OP.

What do they look like op?

>>45232

Sure I’ll bite.

How do your daily interactions usually go? What is their purpose for latching onto you? To escape hell? To drain you? What other spirits are you aware of? Are there any that don’t totally fucking suck?

>>45316

>How do your daily interactions usually go?

I usually wake up feeling her snuggling or gently sucking me off. She's usually more lethargic in the mornings. "Not a morning demon." I make my own breakfast. She can't do that for me, sadly. I'll get mental impressions from her throughout the day, usually encouraging me to come back to bed. We often have two hour sessions every day where we have spirit sex. We could go longer, and sometimes do, but I get too restless being in bed for that long.

I do my normal stuff, work and whatnot. I come home, relax, and ultimately get coerced back into bed by her around bedtime. We'll usually have sex for awhile, and sometimes just keep going into the night, with me dozing in and out of consciousness. No matter what happens, I always feel her hand gently pressing against the side of my face as I fall asleep, and her presence pressing into my back. She's very comforting.

We have a lot of sex. That seems to be their primary motivation in life. Some days feel better than others, but the longer we've been together, the better, and more powerful, the experience becomes.

The mechanics of how spirit sex works, how I feel and perceive her; that's a story unto itself. It's not what most people would imagine. Search for the succubus wordpress blogs that are out there and you'll see more details. You might even find my story, but I'm not shilling my writing here.

>What is their purpose for latching unto you?

The only purpose I can know for certain is that they like to have sex. They like how it feels. They enjoy being close to humans. I can't discern any ulterior motives after all these years of being with her. And despite some of the shit we've been through, I have no reason to doubt her. (We did have a falling out, due to me taking Christianity way too seriously, but eventually resolved things.)

Some have speculated that they link up with us so they can have the same immortal soul that we have… but that's all it is: speculation. And if you try to ask them directly, try to dig an answer out of them, they can be very coy and cryptic. At any rate, I think the simplest explanation is the right one.

>What other spirits are you aware of? Are there any that don't totally fucking suck?

There's a whole world of different spirits out there. Many worlds, I believe. There are certainly some assholes roaming around, but you can avoid those, or give them the finger if they try to force themselves on you. (Most are terrified of humans that don't cower in fear.) Real demonic spirits, like succubi, are a whole different animal. Once they've got their eyes on you, there's very little you can do that will convince them to leave. They'll make you their project for life. Contacting one of these demonic spirits is essentially a life-long initiation into a spirit/demon-run secret society, where only they can do the initiating and teaching. So, just be aware of that before you go contacting any.

I know people like to make fun of this guy: E. A. Koetting. (Become a Living Meme/God) Once you get past the internet marketing hype, he's the real deal. He's got some good insight on what dealing with these demonic spirits is really like. https://youtu.be/1KFqcY0mqko

This is a video where he explains what happened when he had his ex-wife possessed by Belial, a demonic king. If you're still interested in dealing with demonic spirits after watching that interview, then this might be a viable spiritual path for you. Just be aware that this sort of life-changing, potentially-insanity-inducing stuff can happen. As much as I've benefited, there are certainly risks involved. Greater risks, more reward.

>>45325

Please shill your writing here

>>45325

Spirit sex sounds kind of shit. I want the full feeling of sex, but this just kind of sounds like the sort of feeling you get with a vivid dream. Besides I don't want my cummies soaking the sheets succubus better make that shit go away.

>>45395

I can certainly see how spirit sex wouldn't be to everyone's taste. Comparing it to human sex is like choosing between apples and oranges, in my opinion. For some, it's a real boon, and they feel that it's better and more satisfying than human sex. I find that some days are better than others, but the sensations grow stronger, and the intimacy deepens the more I do have sex with her. Maybe two days out of the week really hit the spot and feel better than being with a human woman. The rest of the time is pleasurable, and I enjoy it, but doesn't quite reach the place I'd like to be. (I tend to think they do this on purpose, probably so that my nervous system doesn't go haywire, or I become hopelessly addicted.)

As for what it really feels like, I'll link you to a post that I made on half-chan /x/ about this topic: http://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/22159908#p22191803

look, i'm gonna say this only once

demons do not have sex with you. they literally bombard your mind with sensual images/pleasure (like in dreams), and they get you to masturbate.

that's it. there's no physical sex going on, not even "spiritual", it's just some demon in your room wiggling his pinky at you and you're jacking off.

yes, it is as pathetic as it sounds.

>>45325

>and sometimes just keep going into the night, with me dozing in and out of consciousness

aka you're just dozing on and off jacking off while beelzebub's lower tier buddies make a fool of you. there is no sex going on. quit making a fool out of yourself.

are you really throwing yourself into hell just for that?

>>45434

You probably wont believe this, but during spirit sex, there is no jacking off. The succubus takes nearly total control over the level of arousal. I don't touch myself while it's happening. I don't even have to think an arousing thought for copulation to take place. Hell, she moves my penis where she wants it, even while it's still flaccid.

For the pleasure and intimacy that she gives me, I'll absolutely take the risk of being damned. It was well worth it. Check out Mark Twain's "Letters from Earth" and you'll know what I think about the so-called eternal reward for the faithful.

>>45437

I believe you. I've focused on trying to manifest and materialize spirits through imagining sex and have cummed plenty without touching myself. I can't say if it was spirit connections or mind over matter, but the semen is certainly real.

>>45437

>You probably wont believe this, but during spirit sex, there is no jacking off.

Of course I believe it, demons harass me when I suffer night emissions. It's all in your head, there is no such thing as spiritual sex! Sex is physical!

>I don't even have to think an arousing thought for copulation to take place. Hell, she moves my penis where she wants it, even while it's still flaccid.

HE is not even touching you, he's manipulating your body as you sleep.

>For the pleasure and intimacy that she gives me, I'll absolutely take the risk of being damned. It was well worth it

No, not really. Why not get yourself clean and purse a real human woman? Instead you're just touching yourself while some idiot demon is cracking up at you.

>you'll know what I think about the so-called eternal reward for the faithful.

You don't know the first thing about Heaven. There is no sex in Heaven!

oh, one last thing:

If angels existed before Man (and they did), then how can angels or fallen angels be male or female? The first female didn't exist until Eve was created out of Adam's rib.

Congrats, there are no demons that identify as "she".

>>45454

>give 'em a break

The Gleichschaltung is strong in this one.

But I agree anyways.

>>45454

the book of enoch was rejected, and if the church cannot proclaim the truth, then you only accept the truth that you like the most; thus, you are cursed in eternal error and subjectivity

I hope you repent. Or, at least realize getting off with a sex-less fallen angel is gay.

>>45486

Are you pope-catholic? Because the Vatican is *legitimately* probably one of the biggest criminal enterprises in history. What "the church" proclaims as Truth, is purely based on the Subjectivity of involved people. Such people are often in positions of considerable power within the structure of "the church" and the "Objectivity" of the Truth as proclaimed by the church is not nearly infallible considering the circumstances. The Pope was a european warlord for most of his history as "official first representative of God", and the involvement with *among others* the italian mafia is well documented. No way all the people involved in this type of stuff are just bad apple types, because if they are then the tree of the church is pretty fucking rotten. I say that as someone with great respect for the teachings of Jesus Christ. I am simply amazed how easy it is for people to use this wisdom and knowledge to such barbaric ends. I am absolutely sure you yourself are a good person and the people at your local church aswell. I'm just saying that power corrupts easily, and what is there more powerful than Truth? Doesn't God work through everyone? What's the Old Testament for if not to atleast give backstory to Jesus? Enoch having been quoted gives him atleast moderate credibility to be a voice of God, don't you think?

>>45488

>Are you pope-catholic?

Absolutely.

>Because the Vatican is *legitimately* probably one of the biggest criminal enterprises in history.

You're exaggerating, but where did Christ ever promise that the reprobate would not be among us? Never, not until the very end, when the Angels themselves shall separate them from the elect.

Was not Judas in the Apostle's? Were not the sins Judas forgave, forgiven? Think on it.

>>45486

>Or, at least realize getting off with a sex-less fallen angel is gay.

I won't argue with you there. It is pretty gay. (All sex that doesn't produce children is kinda gay.) But like I said, I already have my reward.

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>>45453

I just read through all of this, you can't possibly be larping considering what you know, but here are some things I happen to know that suggest something is very wrong here:

You can't discern any ulterior motive, you consider this a viable spiritual path, you're in a healthy relationship with this spirit, and you describe these things as welcoming and loving, forceful but not unkind. Absolutely not.

The experiences you describe are spot on, but it's only ever consensual if they know you'll be so hopelessly addicted you'll throw away the afterlife for them. It's usually forced on you, after bombarding your mind with suggestive images like >>45434 said.

>>45319

>At least you didn't become a trap (yet).

This guy knows a thing or two.

>We did have a falling out, due to me taking Christianity way too seriously, but eventually resolved things.

Seems legit…

>I believe that I've managed to bring the Kingdom of Heaven down to this earth, to my life. And it came in the form of a succubus spirit, who is really more like what they say about angels than demons. She showed me what righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit is all about: An experience. Not some hoped-for, promised paradise after death.

…and the succubus doesn't intervene.

>She picks on me for being bi, trying to turn me straight

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

>>45454

This whole post.

>[The bible] does not say that Eve was the first female. If the Jewish legends are to be believed, there was a woman before Eve, created at the same time Adam was, named Lilith. But Adam didn't approve of Lilith, because he wanted to make her subordinate.

>Lilith is VERY feminine, and I know her from personal experience. Lilith is the only deity I know for certain to exist based on my knowing her; not just blindly believing. I consider knowing her to be a blessing. These ladies are the dark aspect of the feminine divine long forgotten.

Welp, he's gone. Any man who falls for this meme is usually going to be stuck in his own little world where he thinks the succubus who did this to him actually cares about him while he slowly wastes away IRL.

Could it be the eunuch?

>>45453

Local baptist church has snake charming and speaking in tongues. Only church I really trust to deliver anything close to the word.

>>45454

I suppose the linguistic similarity of Hecate and Heqet is just a coincidence?

>>44882

The same way we all try to recover. But we never end up making it because your mother fucks livestock associated with the farm variety.

>>45548

>You can't discern any ulterior motive

And you can? Based on what? Your Bible?

>you consider this a viable spiritual path

It is. There is more to it than just sex. If the initiate does not progress on this path, they will waste away and be lost to the world. (As you posited further on.)

>and you describe these things as welcoming and loving, forceful but not unkind. Absolutely not.

You sound awfully sure of yourself. Again, based on what? I doubt it's first-hand experience, so you're probably a Christian.

>but it's only ever consensual if they know you'll be so hopelessly addicted you'll throw away the afterlife for them.

Sauce? I'm always amused by the audacity of Christians having zero experience with demons, or ANY spiritual experience, for that matter. Being adopted slaves in the sky-Jew's household suddenly makes them experts.

>It's usually forced on you, after bombarding your mind with suggestive images…

Nothing was forced. None of this would have happened without my consent. I will say this though: If you summon a demon, don't be surprised if they hold you to the terms of your agreement, even if you get squeamish and flee to Jesus.

For the last time: They don't "force" suggestive thoughts into my mind. If there are any lewd images in my noggin, it's all my fault, baby. As I've said, several times, there doesn't need to be a sexual thought in the mind for these demons to cause arousal. Rather, if the practitioner focuses the feeling of pure love unto the spirit, that's when the connectedness and bliss can become truly great. Focusing on the sexual only goes so far.

Good grief, the way you Christians carry on about how powerful demons are, I seriously start to question whom you truly worship! You ascribe so much power to the devil and his minions, yet Christ needs the assistance of world-wide institutions, armies, and an endless sea of drooling drones repeating mantras every Sunday to even make a dent in the human subconscious. All it took for Lilith was just one ritual, and BAM. Kundalini awakening and spiritual journeys galore.

>Seems legit…

That perked your interest, did it? I spent nearly a year giving Christianity a solid second chance. (I was raised Christian.) My experiences with the demon became too powerful, too real, so I freaked out, and fled to the church. I prayed, I read scripture, I went to church, and lived in a Christian community filled with like-minded believers. All that time, my demon lover was still with me. She still held me at night, even though I desperately pleaded with "the Most High" to take her away. She wasn't going anywhere. I got pastors involved from many different denominations, both Catholic and Protestant. Even after embarrassing myself in front of the entire community, being branded as a "demon possessed" person in their eyes forever, but to no avail. (Even though I never displayed any of the theatrics associated with demon possession. I seriously doubt the validity of those stories now.) I confessed my so-called "sins," but she was still there, waiting for me to stop being an idiot and get on with my life. I did everything right. I prayed and fasted, read all the books they told me to, and forbade sex with my demon whenever she tempted me. Nothing. So then I decided to stop trying to impress this god, who clearly couldn't be bothered, and decided to be happy with my demon.

I would later go on to find other men, who are attached to spirits like mine, and they are practicing Christians. Many of them had also tried to have their demons exorcised, but to no avail. The name of Jesus Christ does not affect them. So, like me, they decided to stop fighting and be happy with the loving spirits they received. Some of these guys fought for way longer than me.

>>45548

>Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Ya think? I'm not the only one who has had their demon encourage a change in orientation. There's this one woman who runs "The Secrets of the Gods" channel on youtube, who was encouraged by her demon associates to become straight, despite formerly being a lesbian.

>Welp, he's gone.

>Welp, I guess we can't brainwash this guy into our cult. Damn! I'm mighty jealous that he's getting blowjobs from angels, and my god can't even be bothered to say one word to me! Maybe I should throw some more money into the offering plate this Sunday?

>>45558

>Local baptist church has snake charming and speaking in tongues. Only church I really trust to deliver anything close to the word.

so the metric for an authentic church is snaking charming and ecstatic mouth dribbling? anon, please

>>45570

>And you can? Based on what? Your Bible?

Yes?

Tell, what do you think of chastity? God came down as man, lived completely chaste, and died and resurrected. Why would God ever be unchaste? What does the Creator of all things have to do with animal pleasures?

Why do you think any spirit "having sex" with you is legit?

> If the initiate does not progress on this path, they will waste away and be lost to the world.

being lost to lust is already being given over to the world.

>I'm always amused by the audacity of Christians having zero experience with demons, or ANY spiritual experience, for that matter. Being adopted slaves in the sky-Jew's household suddenly makes them experts.

You're a slave to your sexual passions, throwing feces at those who have been freed.

>If you summon a demon, don't be surprised if they hold you to the terms of your agreement, even if you get squeamish and flee to Jesus.

There's not a single thing a demon can do without the acquiescence of Christ. If you're lost with your fallen angel butt-body, it's because God has allowed you to be lost in your own wicked pleasures. You should repent.

>>45570

>I confessed my so-called "sins," but she was still there, waiting for me to stop being an idiot and get on with my life.

Confession isn't an exorcism, were you exorcised? That confession hasn't freed you implies this guy has a deep grip on your soul.

> I prayed and fasted, read all the books they told me to, and forbade sex with my demon whenever she tempted me.

"I forbade sex". From the way you phrase it, it sounds like you still communicated with the demon. Are you actually possessed? Are you schizophrenic?

>I would later go on to find other men, who are attached to spirits like mine, and they are practicing Christians. Many of them had also tried to have their demons exorcised, but to no avail. The name of Jesus Christ does not affect them. So, like me, they decided to stop fighting and be happy with the loving spirits they received. Some of these guys fought for way longer than me.

Do tell, I'd like to have some more information to spot these unfortunates.

>>45583

>What does the Creator of all things have to do with animal pleasures?

He created them.

>Why do you think any spirit "having sex" with you is legit?

Because they want to.

>being lost to lust is already being given over to the world.

In your worldview perhaps. In mine, it's very nearly the key to all spiritual enlightenment. The Left-Hand Path.

>You're a slave to your sexual passions, throwing feces at those who have been freed.

That's an awfully crude depiction, coming from someone who has allegedly risen above their God-given animal nature. Though it doesn't really surprise me, given that the god of the Bible appeared to have a fascination with fecal matter. (Ezekiel 4:12,15)

>There's not a single thing a demon can do without the acquiescence of Christ. If you're lost with your fallen angel butt-body, it's because God has allowed you to be lost in your own wicked pleasures. You should repent.

You have no idea how true that statement is. After everything I did to try and do things "the right way," I came to the conclusion that the Creator, the real one, not the imposter spoken about in churches, must want me to take this journey. Or, at the very least, he respects the fact that I've decided to take matters into my own hands. So he will not "free me" from the consequences of my choice. Only children, and the mentally retarded, are shielded from the consequences of their actions. Original sin is nonsense. I will not apologize for being what I am. That's like begging forgiveness for being born white.

>That confession hasn't freed you implies this guy has a deep grip on your soul.

I didn't do it right, huh? How many exorcisms is it going to take? I thought the mere mention of Jesus Christ was enough to make demons tremble? Praying in the name of Jesus should be enough, if that is all that is required to be "saved." Why not deliverance from a demon? It's foolishness. I spent enough time banging my head against a wall, wishing for a different outcome besides a headache.

You're really invested in my demon being male. lol "I REFUSE to call it a 'she!' I refuse to believe women could have enough agency to be truly evil like men!"

>it sounds like you still communicated with the demon. Are you actually possessed? Are you schizophrenic?

When their touch can be felt 24/7, its difficult to completely forget that they're still around. During the time I was fighting her, I treated her as an "it," a creature, a parasite, because that's the common stereotype about them from ye old lore. There was no point in trying to communicate when I had that mindset.

What do you consider possession? That can mean many different things. If you mean flailing around hysterically, speaking in a guttural voice, cursing, and harming myself, then no… nothing close to that has happened. This was something that baffled the pastors and priests. To all appearances, I was perfectly normal and lucid. The only reason they knew anything was amiss is because I told them about it.

There have been many stages on this journey where I have deeply questioned my own sanity. The very first two weeks after my kundalini awakening was a rush of entirely new experiences. I could feel third-eye sensations, pressure, heat, and spontaneous arousal at the most random times. (In addition to this spirit gently urging me to bed with them.) I spent a great deal of time grounding myself, spending time in nature, and with normal, non-spiritual people so that I wouldn't loose my nerve entirely. I don't hear voices, if that's what you're wondering. Their communication tends to favor touch, feeling, emotional impressions, but it can develop into more advanced forms once the right channels are opened.

>Do tell, I'd like to have some more information to spot these unfortunates.

Good luck with that. Unless they appeal for help, deciding that their spirit is evil all-of-the-sudden, you'd probably never notice them. One thing these spirits do inspire is a fervent devotion towards one's convictions, so a person who is joined with one of these demons might be incredibly earnest about their religion. They'll probably take it more seriously than all others. One thing I have learned from these demons: If you're going to do something, do it to the full. If you're going to be Christian, be a dauntless Christian. If you're going to be a Black Lodge Magickian, be the best damn practitioner there ever was. They could care less about our personal religion, just so long as we don't use it as a bludgeoned against them.

>>45570

>You sound awfully sure of yourself. Again, based on what? I doubt it's first-hand experience, so you're probably a Christian.

>Sauce? I'm always amused by the audacity of Christians having zero experience with demons, or ANY spiritual experience, for that matter.

Christian? You're absolutely right on that, however I do in fact have personal experience with demons, which I should have mentioned in my post. At one time I was haunted by one, which was exactly what showed me how real these things are back when I was a skeptic. Maybe you should think before blindly accusing others of having no experience with something just because they see it in an entirely different light.

>Good grief, the way you Christians carry on about how powerful demons are, I seriously start to question whom you truly worship! You ascribe so much power to the devil and his minions, yet Christ needs the assistance of world-wide institutions, armies, and an endless sea of drooling drones repeating mantras every Sunday to even make a dent in the human subconscious. All it took for Lilith was just one ritual, and BAM. Kundalini awakening and spiritual journeys galore.

>That perked your interest, did it? I spent nearly a year giving Christianity a solid second chance. (I was raised Christian.) My experiences with the demon became too powerful, too real, so I freaked out, and fled to the church. I prayed, I read scripture, I went to church, and lived in a Christian community filled with like-minded believers. All that time, my demon lover was still with me. She still held me at night, even though I desperately pleaded with "the Most High" to take her away. She wasn't going anywhere. I got pastors involved from many different denominations, both Catholic and Protestant. Even after embarrassing myself in front of the entire community, being branded as a "demon possessed" person in their eyes forever, but to no avail. (Even though I never displayed any of the theatrics associated with demon possession. I seriously doubt the validity of those stories now.) I confessed my so-called "sins," but she was still there, waiting for me to stop being an idiot and get on with my life. I did everything right. I prayed and fasted, read all the books they told me to, and forbade sex with my demon whenever she tempted me. Nothing. So then I decided to stop trying to impress this god, who clearly couldn't be bothered, and decided to be happy with my demon.

So, your demon acted more or less like a loving human gf and you couldn't get it to leave, but mine was openly hostile, nearly ruined my life, and left the moment I started fighting back?

And there's also the crucial detail of the fact you're a man worshipping Lilith. She hates men, and one of the other posts on here is from a guy whose every offering is answered with physical pain. Yet here you are, posting on /x/ about a demon that's not trying to harm you, and how rewarding this ritual was for you. So are you larping or are you actually a man-hating shill trying to bait guys on /x/ into being drained by a demon?

>>45598

Finally, you outed yourself. Why else would you be here if you were so secure in your faith? You say that you've experienced hostility from them? In what way? Provoked or not?

I have been attacked by them, by her. At least, I perceived it as an attack at the time. I was made to experience what it's like to have the flickering flame of my soul nearly stamped out. My physical body also felt as though it were being crushed. Sleep was almost impossible, but I got through it. Looking back on that trial, if I had taken the time to understand what was really going on, things might have gone much smoother. But I choose to fight back, just like you. Except in my case, the spirit wouldn't be convinced to leave so easily.

This path is not for the faint of heart. It takes a certain kind of person to really enjoy this way of being. Not a masochist, but someone who is unafraid of rapid spiritual transformation. Unyielding in the midst of searing flames that burn away all false preconceptions and limiting beliefs. There is both PLEASURE and PAIN on the Left-Hand Path. You can't have one without the other. But along with those risks of becoming insane, and being made to pass through the alchemical fires, there is no better path that I've yet found for ascent. And for feeling truly ALIVE.

Don't start accusing me of trying to bait people. They ask questions, I answer. I even posted a warning, linking those who might be interested, to E. A. Koetting's testimony about how he had his ex-wife possessed by Belial. The cost of that ritual was great for both Eric and his ex. I gave the warning: If you're not prepared to take those kinds of risks, this path is not for you. But for those who are not faint of heart, for those who are willing to take the Fool's Journey, and truly LIVE through all of its highs and lows, I find this road to be ideal. I'm having the time of my life. Really, I think this is what Christianity was originally meant to be, but lost it's way. At least, the church proper certainly has. I don't think we were meant to be groveling before a Jewish messiah, apologizing for being alive. Rather, I believe we can have a true face-to-face confrontation with divinity, in all of its beautiful and terrifying aspects. Then, be invited to take part in the Great Work. The Art. The Craft. Creation itself.

>>45613

Hostility as in:

>Constant lethargic feeling, as if the life is being sucked out of me (2004-2012)

>Inescapable, suggestive lucid dreams. "Lucid" so far as knowing I was dreaming, but couldn't control it or voluntarily wake up no matter how hard I tried. (2007-2012)

>Unhealthy sleep cycles. I'd start dozing off as my head gets flooded with visions of this entity, then snap out of it. (2011-2012)

>Attempts at resisting all of the above cause outright attacks. Nightmares that I still feel pain from when I wake up, or visions of the spirit visibly angry and feeling pain like I was just beaten senseless.

And when I got serious about fighting back the attacks died down and completely stopped within a year.

>>45619

I'm sorry for the pain and trauma that you've been put through. I believe there is a reason for this happening, but you're probably not going to like it: Trauma is an effective means for opening up the psychic senses. It's not the only way, but it is probably the most powerful and efficient means of doing so. It is possible that you were intentionally made to suffer abuse so that you could progress in whatever path you were on.

The "attacks" that I endured from my spirit were actually intense bombardment of my non-physical/astral/energy body in order to "wake me up" as quickly as possible. This happened because of my desire to feel her more deeply, so I was made to endure that pain. I have been made to be "assaulted" by other spirits as well. As painful as these exercises might be, they are all part of forging the Black Magickian into a more potent force to be reckoned with. I could probably stop this relationship that I have with my succubus if I really wanted to; just like you did. But deep in my heart, I know that I want to progress by any means necessary, no matter if I protest about any trauma I might experience. "Hold me to my oath, darling. Even if I can't."

V. K. Jehannum, who is an expert on the Qlipothic spirits, has reached a similar conclusion and his video about it is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2woFlKQmnM

>>45593

>He created them.

It does not mean He partakes in them, God, the Father does not change. Christ, suffering from neither the effects of original sin nor the needs of the flesh, had nothing to do with lust either.

>Because they want to.

that's not an argument

> In mine, it's very nearly the key to all spiritual enlightenment. The Left-Hand Path.

The path to eternal hell, eternal darkness, and eternal pain. There's only one path, the Narrow Path.

>>45613

>Finally, you outed yourself

no, no clue who that guy is.

>Why else would you be here if you were so secure in your faith?

I get bored and like to read spooky stories

>>45593

>After everything I did to try and do things "the right way," I came to the conclusion that the Creator, the real one, not the imposter spoken about in churches, must want me to take this journey. Or, at the very least, he respects the fact that I've decided to take matters into my own hands. So he will not "free me" from the consequences of my choice. Only children, and the mentally retarded, are shielded from the consequences of their actions. Original sin is nonsense. I will not apologize for being what I am. That's like begging forgiveness for being born white.

You speak like a reprobate, friend.

>>45676

Matthew 7:1

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

>>45677

If you are a baptized Christian fallen into apostasy, I will tell you as such; it is my duty to tell you (or that anon) as such. I am my brother's keeper. A reprobate is someone who dies without repenting, so you/he should repent of his occultism and witchcraft.

>>45678

<Is told not to judge unless he wants to be judged himself

>Judges

This isn't rocket science, Anon.

>>45680

You don't know what you're talking about. Judgement, in the authentic Catholic sense, is something Jesus Christ does at the end of every life.

To warn someone that he speaks as someone who may die in their mortal sins unrepentant isn't robbing Christ of His Judgement - which is what what the actual verse you're quoting means - it is warning that anon he is courting Hell with his error.

>>45674

>It does not mean He partakes in them

Okay, God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit are SuperChad Virgins, who created fleshly desire, but have nothing to do with such debauchery themselves. Jesus Christ was so divine that he never even went to the bathroom. Got it.

>that's not an argument

Why not, Molyneux? If that's what they enjoy doing, who are you to argue?

>>45675

>I get bored and like to read spooky stories

Phillipians 4:8

A truly convicted Christian would not allow themselves to be led into temptation by reading threads on /x/ about summoning succubi. Why are you putting God to the test, anon?

>>45676

>You speak like a reprobate, friend.

If you mean "reprobate" in that I am lost, damned for all eternity, than yes, guilty as charged.

>>45692

Honestly, I don't understand how someone can accept the doctrine of Hell as a fact and yet happily accept going there. But you're right when you say that God won't protect you from the consequences of your own decisions, and you will end up getting what you want. Good luck I guess dude. If you're lucky you might even find it pleasurable when you get there, in a sort of insane way that normal people wouldn't be able to appreciate.

>>45692

>A truly convicted Christian would not allow themselves to be led into temptation by reading threads on /x/ about summoning succubi.

Would you condemn St. Paul for preaching to the Greeks? The only temptation I'm fighting is to not upbraid you too harshly.

>Okay, God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit are SuperChad Virgins

You speak so flippantly about holy things. The point of sex is to breed, which is a task Man has been given for the sake of bringing more Saints in the world. The actual task of breeding is -literally- below God, it is something left to us as He creates in the Spirit, and was completely circumvented when Christ was born of Mary.

>who created fleshly desire, but have nothing to do with such debauchery themselves.

Yes, perfection is not capable of being imperfect. God is not Zeus.

>If you mean "reprobate" in that I am lost, damned for all eternity, than yes, guilty as charged.

Not quite, you are only damned when you die and Christ proclaims you as such. Seeing that you cling to such pathetic delusions as being loved by a demon, were you get past that, what would keep you from Heaven?

>>45704

>The only temptation I'm fighting is to not upbraid you too harshly.

Patronizing much? If you're staking out a ministry here, well, good luck with that.

>You speak so flippantly about holy things.

I'm sure they are "Holy" to you.

>The point of sex is to breed, which is a task Man has been given for the sake of bringing more Saints in the world.

LOL Is that the goal now? To crank out more "saints?" Notwithstanding nearly every saint and so-called "Holy man" being insufferable covert narcissists? Or even outright criminals? That's one thing I remember very clearly from the church: We'd get a new preacher, "Hey man, I used to be part of a gang, and I did a bunch of shoplifting, but I got saved by Jesus! Now I'm a pastor because no one else will hire me!" This was so common, it would be comical if it weren't so sad.

Another glaring distinction that never ceases to amuse me is how all the Satanists and demon worshipers whom I know personally are all very honest, moral, and upstanding when compared to the vast majority of Christians I know. Not that this matters to the Most High, but I still enjoy the irony.

>He creates in the Spirit, and was completely circumvented when Christ was born of Mary.

You're probably going to need a fainting couch for this next idea: What if the Holy Spirit had spirit sex with Mary to conceive Jesus? You've got that precedent from Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch, so why not? But what do I know? I guess you were present when Jesus was conceived, so you know best.

>Yes, perfection is not capable of being imperfect.

You really think desiring another person sexually is a sin? If that's the case, no one can help you. I feel like I'm having a back-and-forth with a resident from an Orwellian nightmare future.

>Seeing that you cling to such pathetic delusions as being loved by a demon, were you get past that, what would keep you from Heaven?

See my last statement above. I find the so-called "faithful" to be as fake and two-faced as they come. I'll gladly take Hell over spending an eternity with such people. THAT would be "Hell" for me. When I hear Christians talk about Heaven, and what they plan to do there, nothing could possibly sound more dull and uninteresting to me. A world without sin? What they really mean is a world without growth, change, or cycles. The reason nobody can imagine such a world is because it's inherently nonsensical. Nah, I'm all set, man. You can go live in clown world if you want.

This world, where we find ourselves now, even with all its suffering, is the place to be.

>>45704

>perfection is not capable of being imperfect

Perfection only conceives imperfection? And creates it? And contains it?

God is All, yes? Then in imperfection is as much God as in perfection. Why is there evil catholicanon? Do you have any explanation for why there are babies born with leukemia? BABIES WITH LEUKEMIA. Because of their parents? The babies would've been bad so they had to die of cancer?

I agree that perfection exists and is All, but light exists only in contrast to dark, as life exists only in contrast to death.

Again, where is God's love in having babies killed and raped? If Christ is The One through whom you go to Heaven, why is Muhammed considered by muslims to be literally "the perfect man"? as Christ is considered by christians Why is the symbol of Islam the Moon, as opposed to the halo of the Sun in Christianity? Why are the religions of the east polytheistic? God's memo of "there is only me, noone else besides me" didn't reach them and God doesn't care? Only about lucky westerners? Why is there evil so horrible and unspeakable catholicanon? If God knows and conceives all, then he must have truly conceived the deepest of abysses and through that manifested them. If God is omni-potent and omni-scient, then he is both gas-chamber, executioner, executioned, poisonous gas, and Auschwitz, all in one. And He didn't stop any of it.

I know that probably sounds like "hurr durr you don't understand your own religion" to you, but tell me honestly: why make heaven so perfect, and tell us about it but have it be ambiguous, and life so shit and so obviously painful, and then make it a sin to commit suicide. At the very least you ought to agree that God has an exquisitely sick sense of humour. Babies with leukemia become angels that live eternally. A lifetime of pleasurable sin for an eternity of punishment. AN ETERNITY OF PUNISHMENT FOR TEMPORARILY ENJOYING PLEASURABLE THINGS! HOW? WHY? WHAT???

>>45722

>If you're staking out a ministry here

I'm not, I'm rebuking you. Your reasons for falling away are completely idiotic and pathetic. Either you traffic in demons who just bombard you with images or you sit in your room doped up all night masturbating. Wake up.

>Now I'm a pastor because no one else will hire me!

I'm indifferent towards the problems of the protestant sects.

>What if the Holy Spirit had spirit sex with Mary to conceive Jesus?

The Spirit didn't, you need a body to have sex. I keep telling you sex is physical, not just closing your eyes and meditating all night.

>You've got that precedent from Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch, so why not?

Which is a common misconception because the "sons of God" weren't angels, they were men who kept up in the religion of Adam, and from whom Abel and Cain came. Where else did they learn to sacrifice for God? You are ignorant, and you don't even know what you don't know.

>You really think desiring another person sexually is a sin?

If they are your wife, go for it. Not some asexual fallen angel who sneers at you every night.

> feel like I'm having a back-and-forth with a resident from an Orwellian nightmare future

I feel like I'm talking to a blind man trying to describe the sun.

>I'll gladly take Hell over spending an eternity with such people. THAT would be "Hell" for me.

Hell is pain, darkness, and weeping. Unending, for eternity. That you think putting up with people you merely dislike is worse just makes you sound anti-social and pathetic.

>>45788

>blah blah?

Original Sin, etc etc.

I spend a few days away from /x/ and come back to see succubusanon still at it, now arguing with a pope-catholic and another protestant.

>>45788

>God is All, yes? Then in imperfection is as much God as in perfection. Why is there evil catholicanon? Do you have any explanation for why there are babies born with leukemia? BABIES WITH LEUKEMIA. Because of their parents? The babies would've been bad so they had to die of cancer?

Despite being "spiritually awakened" you're thinking about this in a completely earthly sense. From a spiritual perspective that dead baby would be on its way to a far better world so, cold as it may seem to someone worldly-minded, no need to intervene.

>Again, where is God's love in having babies killed and raped? If Christ is The One through whom you go to Heaven, why is Muhammed considered by muslims to be literally "the perfect man"? as Christ is considered by christians Why is the symbol of Islam the Moon, as opposed to the halo of the Sun in Christianity?

Islam is not Christianity. Your argument of "babies being killed and raped" is an attempt to shoehorn an Islam problem on Christianity. The existence of Muhammed does not disprove or devalue Christ, because the Muslims were dead wrong. Muhammed was a warlord, Christ was a pacifist. Muhammed led a conquest through southeastern Europe, heedless of the people who (according to his own beliefs) were being denied salvation and sent to hell on the tip of a scimitar. Christ led sermons, healed people, and fed the hungry.

>God's memo of "there is only me, noone else besides me" didn't reach them and God doesn't care? Only about lucky westerners? Why is there evil so horrible and unspeakable catholicanon? If God knows and conceives all, then he must have truly conceived the deepest of abysses and through that manifested them. If God is omni-potent and omni-scient, then he is both gas-chamber, executioner, executioned, poisonous gas, and Auschwitz, all in one. And He didn't stop any of it.

>I know that probably sounds like "hurr durr you don't understand your own religion" to you, but tell me honestly: why make heaven so perfect, and tell us about it but have it be ambiguous, and life so shit and so obviously painful, and then make it a sin to commit suicide. At the very least you ought to agree that God has an exquisitely sick sense of humour. Babies with leukemia become angels that live eternally. A lifetime of pleasurable sin for an eternity of punishment. AN ETERNITY OF PUNISHMENT FOR TEMPORARILY ENJOYING PLEASURABLE THINGS! HOW? WHY? WHAT???

I could answer this simply with "because demons" and most people would get it. But you're convinced demons are good and God is evil that I have to give you the long explanation. Fallen angels, like the succubus that this entire thread was about, think they're better than God. They appear to occultists and shill their propaganda just like any other large special-interest group. So God let them on a very loose leash. If demons were so good, after all, what would the world be like if they had any sort of influence on it? And the answer is plain as day.

Regarding eternal punishment - Depending on who you ask, your "eternity of punishment" isn't for temporary pleasurable sin. It's for rebelling. Some Christian denominations believe if you didn't get a chance to know God in life, you get one last chance to make your choice on judgment day - and that even then some gnostics and occultists will still turn down salvation. And all the pain and darkness that Hell is frequently described as? It's all inflicted by the exact same beings you thought were better than God.

>>45820

I'm not succubusanon and have not afaik summoned a succubus. I was raised protestant and, like stated before, agree with the spirit of Christianity in the "turn the other cheek" sense.

>from a spiritual perspective that dead baby would be on its way to a far better world

<God's ways are mysterious

What a whack, nonsense answer that fits perfectly into your deathcult dogma. Why do you wish for death, and yet believe that suicide is a sin? Because you want God to have the pleasure of taking you? His fun is ruined if you do it yourself?

>Islam is not Christianity

But God made Islam and millions and billions of muslims that are born into Islam through no actual fault of their own other than your imagined original sin. God creates people that have never heard of Christ or have no reason to follow Christ over their own family religion, and sends them to eternal damnation for following their parent's beliefs. Cold as ice.

>The existence of Muhammed does not disprove or devalue Christ,

I agree. The existence of Confucius does not disprove or devalue Buddha. Infact in both cases it probably proves and raises the value.

>because the Muslims were dead wrong

And thus, born into their generational mistake they shall suffer endlessly purely for having been born a certain way as opposed to another.

>Muhammed was a warlord, Christ was a pacifist

Again yes, AND the Vatican has been one of the biggest power enterprises in human history. Why is it evil of Muhammed to have been a warlord, and yet the institution of the pope having served as the very same thing for most of its history is completely fine because we're the good guys, pope is god's voice on earth Tell me honestly if you think that there are ANY popes in hell. I'm curious.

>I could answer this simply with "because demons"

Demons that were not only conceived of, but also created and allowed by GOD.

>any other large special-interest group

The church is not a special interest group shilling propaganda that is in their own interest? The church owning half the properties in my home city's most expensive district and yet constantly asking for money from churchgoers is just "good business"?

>So God let them on a very loose leash.

wut. Is that supposed to be an argument? Because they have propaganda to shill which God conceived and created God allows the demons to shill their propaganda? And allow them to be darn good at it?

>And the answer is plain as day

That sounds like a threat. So the demons don't have any influence? God just likes to watch people be tormented and have them think it's not actually HIM that is tormenting them? Quite funny. Because if it weren't funny, it'd be deeply sad.

>It's for rebelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIi-HGKlL_0

God allows you to rebel, and punishes you if you do. Because he likes his sheep to be obedient. And for funsies? he makes some people more prone to be disobedient of authority. Some people he lets into heaven because they were lucky enough to be born that way, others he makes it really hard for, still others he makes it almost impossible for. All of that to decide whether your life was worthy of perfect reward or punishment. And you get one chance. Cold as ice.

Do you really not feel the cognitive dissonance?

Why do imperfect demons exist if they were created by perfect God? Why create things only to have them somehow forbidden? THE ENTIRE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY HUMAN HANDS CONNECTED TO HUMAN MINDS WITH HUMAN INTERESTS AND EMOTIONS! YOUR GOD IS A ZOOKEEPER WITH A PENCHANT FOR ANTI-ETHICAL EXPERIMENTS! WHAT IS CANON AND WHAT NOT WAS DECIDED BY HUMANS WITH HUMAN PERSONAL AND POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS! LEARN SOME HISTORY!

My God on the other hand is both sides of the paradox. Both zookeeper and kept. My God does not judge man because He would have to judge himself infinitely more harshly. My God is Universal Will. As such even the actions of Stalin and Hitler are ultimately divine. Honestly though, I hope you keep it up. I'm not sure if you see that but we're both playing more or less opposing but complimentary sides. But I think you're a fool if you don't think that God plays both sides perfectly well. And if there is divine free will, then there is the possibility of one side winning against another atleast temporarily. After all, the show must go on. The kayfabe is paramount and the dialectic mustn't be broken.

>>45803

>Your reasons for falling away are completely idiotic and pathetic.

No, they're not. The religion was idiotic and pathetic.

>Either you traffic in demons who just bombard you with images or you sit in your room doped up all night masturbating. Wake up.

Those are some oddly specific accusations. Is there something you need to confess, Catholicanon? Are you privy to some higher source of information about demons; better than first-hand experience?

>I'm indifferent towards the problems of the protestant sects.

The Catholic institution is in no position to talk down to anyone, even demons. "If there is a hell, surely the Vatican is built over it."

>I keep telling you sex is physical, not just closing your eyes and meditating all night.

That's fair. Spirit sex is not the same thing as human sex. It is more or less a colloquialism used for the sake of convenience. The same goes for the words "succubus" and "demon," as the classical usage of those words don't precisely apply to the spirits I work with. They are pejoratives, but we use them for the sake of expedient communication with others, instead of having to explain all the minutia.

>Which is a common misconception because the "sons of God" weren't angels

I could care less about the specifics of Christian mythology. Some translations say "Sons of God," with their commentaries espousing the same explanation that you provided. Others say "divine beings," or "heavenly beings." Some of your church fathers believed they were actually fallen angels, which is why many of them forbade the dying of fabrics, using makeup and jewelry, etc. because they believed these practices were learned from the fallen angels mentioned in Genesis six. You can get hung up on the details all you want, but there is a precedent for this belief about fallen angels copulating with humans within the church. Whether it's a real story or not, I could care less. It has no bearing on the love that I share with my demon.

If Balam's Donkey can talk, or a man can live inside a fish for three days, why the fuck not have angels shagging humans? The Sodomites surely seemed to think it was possible when those two angels came to town with Lot.

>Not some asexual fallen angel who sneers at you every night.

The only sneering I perceive is when I'm not in bed quickly enough. Though it's really more of an exasperated sigh.

>I feel like I'm talking to a blind man trying to describe the sun.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I know you're not going to comprehend what I've experienced, or even want to. You get off to sucking someone else's divine member. But I find this entertaining, hence the reason I'm keeping up this back-and-forth. And someone needs to white-knight for the demons for a change.

>Hell is pain, darkness, and weeping. Unending, for eternity.

What happened to being roasted alive? I was looking forward to that part.

>>45820

>This whole post: Because Demons.

Poor demons. They're always being blamed for everything. I think humanity is perfectly capable of doing horrible things all on their own without supernatural intervention. And if God is all-powerful, omnipresent, and whatnot, wouldn't he have some part to play in all this? I think I've mentioned this verse before, but it's worth repeating: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” – Isaiah 45:7

Maybe it's possible that Christians have been trained to believe Satan is "evil" because the Devil is really God's whip? Read the Book of Job and tell me that God himself doesn't make deals with the Devil. Why would God gamble a faithful man's life just to prove a point? Because he knows the end from the beginning? Then why even make the deal with your supposed enemy in the first place? Well, he tells us at the end of the story, "I'm your creator and I'm bigger than you, bitch. Don't question me." Job chapters 40-42.

Hey, fair enough. Can't argue with that. But let's all drop this pretense that the Most High is some meek, simpering, mush-head who can do no wrong and doesn't break his own rules sometimes, or be made to change his mind with the right incentives. I brought this up before, but I'm getting the feeling that the Christians here are not reading my texts: Ezekiel convinced God to let him bake his bread with cow dung instead of human dung. (Ezekiel 4) Well, that's alright then, isn't it? Seems quite a bit more reasonable, don't you think?

Come on, people. You're telling ME to wake up?

>>45828

sex demons get bored and leave i guess

>>45828

>if it is on the internet it must be true

>finally got laid and can't wait to tell my friends that I am fucking a spirit!

>they will be so jealous!

Look at yourselves. Ass, grass or gas nobody rides for free. Always remember that.

>>45828

>What are the possible consequences of this?

A new religion or cult perhaps? But let's hold off on that for as long as possible. That'll take the fun out of it.

>>45831

>Look at yourselves. Ass, grass or gas nobody rides for free. Always remember that.

It's not "free." There are consequences, there is a give-and-take, as with any demonic summoning/evocation/ritual. (See posts above.) With that being said, as they are non-physical and unbound by time constraints, arranging sex with a succubus is much easier than any rendezvous with a human partner.

>>45825

I'm not catholicanon, so I do believe there are popes and other Catholic officials in hell. And at this point it's quite clear you don't actually intend to defend your arguments. If you were actually open-minded enough to hold a legitimate argument you would have realized by now (even without seeing the post about my personal encounter with your "good guys") that demons torment people and blame it on God. I'm not asking you to convert to Christianity on the basis of one rando on the internet, just to wake up and learn what a demon really is.

>>45841

>it's quite clear you don't actually intend to defend your arguments.

>Have done little else aside from defend arguments this entire thread.

We're not having a scientific debate here. This is all personal anecdotes, while you Christians appeal to the authority of the church and its scriptures to back up your claims.

>demons torment people and blame it on God.

Personal anecdote: I have never heard a demon blame God, Jesus, or any other deity for inflicting any kind of pain. The trials they inflict have nothing to do with religion. Again, the entities that I work with could care less what your beliefs are. You've dismissed my explanation as to why a summoned demon might cause pain for the practitioner. Have it your way. There's also a chance that you managed to summon an entity who had nothing but ill intent. Those sorts of beings probably exist, though I have no experience with one myself. Looking back at my workings with demons as a whole, this journey has only added value to my life. Amazing sex and intimacy every day doesn't hurt either. It's too bad things didn't work out for you. Let this be a warning to all who dare to tread this path: there are no guarantees for success. Any ritual is a leap of faith into the unknown. (Just like any human relationship based on trust, actually.)

>just to wake up and learn what a demon really is.

You're asking me to adopt the Christian conception of a demon, so doesn't that necessarily imply that I would have to become a Christian to hold that worldview? There are other religions, you know. Spiritual paths that do not see these beings as malevolent. I find the whole concept of Christian salvation to be fallacious, demoralizing, and self-defeating. It's a veritable death cult which revels in the power of sacrificial blood. It's sick. It's conformist. It's a prison for the mind. For me to go back would be an affront to the core values I established leaving that horrid cult.

If you're content living in that cage, then have at it. I will admit that having someone do all of the thinking for you is certainly easier than confronting the unknown alone. However, I don't require your validation, or anyone else's. Freedom is its own reward.

>>45851

I didn't summon anything, it just randomly showed up and haunted me until I managed to get rid of it.

>>45841

Fair enough but

>If you were actually open-minded enough to hold a legitimate argument you would have realized by now (even without seeing the post about my personal encounter with your "good guys") that demons torment people and blame it on God

God invented all of it. ALL OF IT.

>would have realized by now

In other words:

<If you were open-minded enough you would see that I'm right.

Also, again, I'm not succubusanon. I have studied a lot of history and have a shamanic influence through my family. I can tell you that demon=/=demon=/=daemon. A daemon is any spirit. It's only through judaism and subsequently christianity that everything remotely metaphysical is either because you're blessed by god or haunted by the devil. I am absolutely not saying all demons are good guys. Abso-fucking-lutely not! What I am saying is that it makes no sense for all that is perceived demonic by men to be actually evil. Suicide is a sin in the western tradition, in Japan it's quite an honourable thing to do to take your own life to thwart off shame. It's fucked up no doubt, but there's no way seppuku gets you into hell. Again, the God you believe in claims to be fully omni-scient. That also means that he must've known from the very first moment that Eve was going to eat of the forbidden fruit. That means that God literally must have wanted it to happen. Otherwise it literally couldn't have happened.

I feel bad for your encounter with malevolent spirits, I really do, but many people in the church consider any type of spirit to be demonic and malevolent because they either didn't make it to heaven or they're straight up one of Satan's minions. also keep in mind that according to your own theology God wanted you to be attacked by demons

As a spiritual mix-breed I have multiple dogs in this fight. Personally it just seems absolutely retarded to me to say that all good things that happen are god's generous determinism and all bad things are through your own fault and free will. Babies with leukemia, in a life like this which can be so overwhelmingly beautiful, is just too strong of an argument against the simplistic "us vs them" nature of basic christianity. I know people in the faith, and people of other faiths too which are also paternalistic and monotheistic, and not a single one of them can give a coherent argument as to why evil is necessary if God is perfect good.

I have my own answer for that but you're not open-minded enough for me to give it to you. just kidding the answer I have come to terms with is that it is a sort of dance, a play created to be a learning experience for one's higher self, the soul; God loves you means to me that he wants to help you in whatever you want to achieve, and that that is what universal will means; demons have as much of a divine purpose as any worm being chopped apart by the farmer's plough, by the mere fact that they are both a creation of the eternal divine

There are still cultures which practice animism and fetishism, and apparently God hasn't seen fit to bring Christ to them. How come?

I don't need to convert to christianity because I agree with most of the teachings. Not the nonsensical ones like not to wear clothes of two different threads because I'm not going to sew my own clothes and it seems somewhat arbitrary. But stuff like "love thy neighbour as you would yourself"? Fuck yeah. Going to people with lepra and give some humanity and kindness? Fuck yeah. Dying for someone else's sins? There is not a single thing which I could conceive of to be more noble. But waging war in the name of anything other than pure power is pretending. Saying you created all things and the good ones because you're just that generous and the bad ones because they really deserved it, is pure psychopathy. It's the epitomization of "these rules for thee; other rules for me". Fuck your latent elitism dude.

>>45852

That's a whole other ball of wax. Some people are not given a choice. I've know a few women who were born into this world with their spirits, and some of them can be quite the handful to live with. But they are not necessarily "evil." Like me, such spirits cannot be convinced to leave through religion. There is possibly a greater purpose at work in their lives. I think the same could be said for your situation. Perhaps that was a trial you were meant to overcome.

Either way, I think the anon who provided their explanation, the one requiring a bit of open-mindedness, has hit the nail on the head as to why these seemingly bad things happen.

>>45853

>>45841

> so I do believe there are popes and other Catholic officials in hell.

Catholicanon here - no, Popes and Church clergymen do not get free passes, if anything, they get it worse if they end up in Hell.

>No, they're not. The religion was idiotic and pathetic.

Dunno, don't know much about Protestants.

>Those are some oddly specific accusations. Is there something you need to confess, Catholicanon? Are you privy to some higher source of information about demons; better than first-hand experience?

No, it's just that it's obviously either of the two. Demons do not have physical bodies to perform sex with, ergo, they are bombarding you mentally with sexual urges/images. If there are no demons, you just psyched yourself out into believing all this stuff.

>The Catholic institution is in no position to talk down to anyone, even demons.

The Catholic Church is the authority of Christ present on earth, the reprobate within shall be chaff, just as the reprobate without.

>Spirit sex is not the same thing as human sex

It's not sex at all. Period. If it isn't physical sex, it's not sex. If you cede this point, you must admit you are sitting around imagining this stuff up or getting led around by a malevolent spirit.

>I could care less about the specifics of Christian mythology

Then don't try to argue theology.

>The only sneering I perceive is when I'm not in bed quickly enough. Though it's really more of an exasperated sigh.

man, that dude is not your friend

>>45851

>Personal anecdote: I have never heard a demon blame God, Jesus, or any other deity for inflicting any kind of pain

Too afraid to probably. If you had even an ounce of faith in the name of Christ, a sincere utterance of the Holy Name or a sign of the Cross would be enough to get them to split even for a moment.

>The trials they inflict have nothing to do with religion

It has everything to do with religion, it is Christ Himself who allows demons to function. Even now, they're influence in your life is carefully regulated. The demon is doing this to damn you into hell for eternity, if he was let off his chain, he'd have you dead so you can burn now.

>Amazing sex and intimacy every day doesn't hurt either.

Only things you can truly have with a live human body, which spirits lack. So you have neither true sex nor intimacy.

>I find the whole concept of Christian salvation to be fallacious, demoralizing, and self-defeating.

Yeah, eternal happiness and eternal victory is just so lame! Better to sit around in your own stink all day.

>>45869

>More Catholic NPC responses.

You have zero awareness of the various spirit bodies that we possess as humans. That freedom has been closed off to you by your theology. Just as you're asking me to have faith in Christ, I would counter that by asking you to try astral projection or inducing an OBE. Take THAT leap of faith. Once you truly enter that realm in a lucid state, there will be no denying the true reality of things. Until then, you have zero comprehension of what my daily experience is like. You are blind, numb and deaf. You only have baseless assertions.

>>45870

>Too afraid to probably

Either you have remarkably poor reading comprehension, or you are so blinded by your religion, the words just bounce right off! I already explained how I was prayed over, in the name of Christ, by both protestant AND CATHOLIC clergy, but to no effect. I gave that relationship with Christ more of a chance than anything else I've put my mind to. I made countless concessions and allowances for that faith. It accomplished fuck all. No change.

>t is Christ Himself who allows demons to function. Even now, they're influence in your life is carefully regulated.

So you feel that God himself has control over the demons? Well then, why are you attempting to impede the work that Christ is doing in me? If he allows it, but does nothing to stop it, even when I've asked him to, he must want me to have this experience. Maybe I was… predestined.

>Only things you can truly have with a live human body

I've had both, and I find the spirit to be superior. The only possible downside is not having children.

>Yeah, eternal happiness and eternal victory is just so lame!

It's a lie. That reward is conveniently shrouded behind the finality of death, so there's no way to be certain it exists. Unless you blindly trust that book and the institutions propping it up. My days of believing blindly are over. Only first-hand experience will suffice.

To get slightly back on topic: There have been multiple derogatory assertions about sex with succubi, and incubi, from the Christcuck anons here. For those who are interested, here are some resources which I find to be insightful and very applicable to my own understanding of these spirits.

Firstly, Ida Craddock. She had an amorous spirit lover, named Soph, and many of her writings are freely available online. Her knowledge of ancient sexual practices and rites is extensive. Check out the testimony from Chester E. Pond in his essay, "Under the Divine Touch," reproduced in Craddock's "Heavenly Bridegrooms." Though he uses Christian terminology to describe that loving spirit who came into his life, those sensations and revelations mirror my own. http://www.idacraddock.com/index.html

I have the Vere Chappell book, and that's a fantastic read as well.

Lastly, Donald Tyson's "Sexual Alchemy" book was the primer that I remember reading veraciously the day my own spirit lover arrived. I personally didn't use any of the ritual practices contained in the working section of the book, but there is a fascinating historical overview of the spirit sex phenomena. Again, many of the experiences Tyson describes with his spirits are similar to my own. The book is out of print, but copies can be found used, or with a Google search.

>>45887

>There have been multiple derogatory assertions about sex with succubi, and incubi, from the Christcuck anons here.

yeah, for instance, they HAVE NO BODIES. you cannot have SEX without a BODY.

i've yet to hear a cogent explanation for what sounds like larping masturbation. if you're in bed with your eyes closed with a boner, that is not sex!

>>45887

>You have zero awareness of the various spirit bodies that we possess as humans.

we don't have any spirit bodies, or are you telling me you're one of those headmate tumblr weirdos?

>I would counter that by asking you to try astral projection or inducing an OBE. Take THAT leap of faith.

I've encountered the latter, it made me seriously ponder what would take my place in my body as I was out. You ever come back to find someone else in the pilot's seat, buddy?

> I already explained how I was prayed over, in the name of Christ, by both protestant AND CATHOLIC clergy, but to no effect

because the effect has to be within yourself. you obviously are inflicted with the sort of demon that will never leave without praying and fasting for very long periods. should you ever realize you're not in a good way, perhaps, your awakening to Christ would be very strong? Think about it.

>So you feel that God himself has control over the demons?

Of course He does, or He wouldn't be God.

>Well then, why are you attempting to impede the work that Christ is doing in me?

Who can truly know the Will of God? Perhaps we were meant to meet.

>I've had both, and I find the spirit to be superior.

Just as any other addicted masturbater finds they prefer masturbation to the real thing.

>That reward is conveniently shrouded behind the finality of death, so there's no way to be certain it exists.

Faith.

>Only first-hand experience will suffice.

Apparently sitting in the dark with your penis out is exalting for you?

>>45927

Until you have first-hand experience with them, you won't be able to understand. But let me warn you: The more you interact with me on this subject, the more likely you are to have this kind of encounter.

>>45928

>we don't have any spirit bodies

There are multiple "zones" or "levels" to the astral environment. For each level, we have a unique body suited for that realm.

>You ever come back to find someone else in the pilot's seat, buddy?

It's actually far less likely that "something" will try to jump in and posses someone who is out-of-body and lucid. The astral body is always attached to the resting physical one by means of a silver cord that trails behind the projector. If anyone were to try and mess with the physical body, the out-of-body traveler would be instantly aware and more able to defend themselves than an unconscious sleeping person would be.

>should you ever realize you're not in a good way, perhaps, your awakening to Christ would be very strong?

Been there, done that. The salvation preached in churches is bullshit. I have nothing to apologize for.

>Who can truly know the Will of God? Perhaps we were meant to meet.

There are no coincidences.

>Just as any other addicted masturbater finds they prefer masturbation to the real thing.

You are correct, in a way. My brain has effectively been rewired to find sex with succubi more pleasurable than any kind of physical stimulation. Masturbation feels lame and cheap by comparison. At any rate, it's that soul-to-soul connection which is most important; not the physical sensations. The intimacy. I haven't been able to find that kind of connectedness anywhere else. This is on a whole other level.

>Apparently sitting in the dark with your penis out is exalting for you?

You're missing an entirely different dimension of interaction which is not accessible to those who haven't been sufficiently awakened to their spiritual senses. I feel her nearly every moment of my life. I feel her gently press against my temples, move her hand through my hair, press into my back, touch my chest, squeeze my scrotum teasingly. (These are just a few examples.) Every time I sit down and am somewhat still is like a signal for her to open up this interaction. A kiss from her penetrates the skin more deeply than you can imagine. It's a wonderful gift, every time I receive it.

>>45934

>>45934

>Until you have first-hand experience with them, you won't be able to understand.

Already did. Seductive imagery isn't any more worse than anything on the 'net, corruption isn't what the eyes (or what the mind) sees, but what comes out of the mouth.

>But let me warn you: The more you interact with me on this subject, the more likely you are to have this kind of encounter.

You seemed so eager to sing their praises before…

> If anyone were to try and mess with the physical body, the out-of-body traveler would be instantly aware and more able to defend themselves than an unconscious sleeping person would be.

It's not about defending yourself from someone on the outside, it's about defending yourself from someone within. The human spirit has no defense against the demon, but Christ Himself. As I said, there are many things they would do to you, if it had been in their power to do so.

>Been there, done that. The salvation preached in churches is bullshit. I have nothing to apologize for.

Turning away from the truth is damning.

>My brain has effectively been rewired to find sex with succubi more pleasurable than any kind of physical stimulation.

And this is good because?

>At any rate, it's that soul-to-soul connection which is most important; not the physical sensations

Do you know what they truly look like? Do you truly know who they are? Do you truly have any power over them?

>I feel her nearly every moment of my life.

It's not a her.

> Every time I sit down and am somewhat still is like a signal for her to open up this interaction. A kiss from her penetrates the skin more deeply than you can imagine. It's a wonderful gift, every time I receive it.

And what does this demon get out of it? Do you really think it feeds on your energies like they say? Or is it something much worse, your sworn enemy pulling and tugging at you, knowing what it is doing to you is far worse than anything else anyone could ever do to you? Some guy off the street can take your life, but this guy in your room is trying to damn your soul.

>>45986

>Do you know what they truly look like? Do you truly know who they are? Do you truly have any power over them?

>It's not a her.

>And what does this demon get out of it? Do you really think it feeds on your energies like they say?

Summon one for yourself and find out. There's nothing I can say that will convince you otherwise.

To get away from religious debate for a moment…

Can a succubus give you some help if you've been having problems getting it up?

we've gone full cirlcle to the threads that killed the orogonal /x/ too. rip /x/ pre 2010

>>52258

If you don't mind being physiologically dependent on the constant endorphin rushes, subject to MKOFTEN-esque programming to think the succubus is benevolent even under torture, and finally being lured into an illusory mindscape and having your consciousness devoured, then yes.

>>52360

I *might* have just screwed up big time by forgetting about OP's pics and not spoilering. Zoom in at your own risk.

>>52362

A risk for ants. That's a thumbnail, amigo.

>>52364

>>52363

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19646751/

>>52363

Well that's what I get for late-night sleep deprived posting.

There pussy slave even in dreams. Ridiculous and despicable. This is the result of lust and weakness.

>>52415

In fact, what the OP wants is to invoke a succubus on the physical plane. This is even more stupid.

>>52419

Was he successful or is he a giant pussy, no physical plane summoning, faggot?

>suckybus

Why not just talk to girls IRL? Look up Leykis 101.

>>45325

I think this is so interesting.

I made this thread

>>52960

>Christianity

So it could disturb the Succubus-human relation?

Here comes the thing: is there some aspect of the power that apparently has an influence that the Succubus likes? Or could agree to?

Another thought

What if you could transfer the Succubus' doing to others?

Do you think you could increase or decrease the power of the Succubus by these healing gatherings/otherwise? Other religions or spiritual practices also generate energy in a similar way.

AND in a way you could make work for the Succubus. So the Succubus would in fact agree to it. Is comfortable with it. But on what level exactly. And can you influence that level?

>>52608

>Leykis 101

To hell with PUA/tradcon bullshit that makes sex an adversarial transaction. From what I've heard, succubi will treat you with more gentleness, compassion, and affection than most human women ever will, and they have no problem being dominant if you're into that. And the sex will be better, too, because my understanding is that they can boost your libido/performance and take you into the astral world, where there are no limits.

>>52608

Human girls suck and not in the good way

>>45828

It is unnerving seeing all of these people manipulated by creatures beyond comprehension. The nigger in this >>45325 video runs around doing whatever he thinks he wants, sacrificing even his own wife, summoning demons from Hell and believing everything they say. I had no idea it was so bad.

>>44868

> 2. Tools

> A fireproof bowel

> You will use this when burning your letter.

I'm pretty sure mine aren't fireproof. Even if they were, I'm not setting fire to them.

>>53142

>So, a poster in here has traded his immortal soul to a sex demon for some butt-tickles. Hilarious

You do not go to hell for dealing with a sex demon. See the great commandment. Or other texts. Like ,,Nothing out of faith, a good conscience is a sin''. He that keeps the day does it for the Lord he that does not also.

We would really have to discuss this further (here) to come to a good result about this.

>Does anyone have any readings on how to contact spirits that will deal with you in a less "the only payment is your soul" way? I would love to be able to trade something for some knowledge.

So the spirits it is about here.

And this: you probably know how prayer does not always have a direct result?

The thing though is, that if you get into trouble, like with anything (money, work, relationships) it is your responsibility.

>would love to be able to trade something for some knowledge.

What do you mean?

Some people have a stamp collection. Or any other hobby.

Even: neither will you go to hell for contacting the devil, evil spirits or not so evil spirits or however. Even if there is something that they will do like with a succubus.

One thing about this, at least, it enormously boosts the awareness of the existence of a spiritual world. Especially to someone that is religious it has positive effects.

But do know that church can become a bother if it is a habit to go there. You will see that they no longer have anything to offer to you. And other people there. It can become annoying that mostly this type of thing can't be discussed. It needs a plan, the opportunity and intelligence to change this. Or don't start it at all.

EVEN: if those people are part of your normal social circle it could bring you in a terrible position. Because in the end all choices, discouragement, just anger that YOU made. It is not unthinkable some people start saying, well, I am depressed now. Or a mental illness, whatever. Because it is all such an unknown experience.

So to everyone it would look like it is caused by those spiritual experiences. While you let loose of your grip on things.

But it would have to be discussed further to say it entirely correctly.

>>53186

>contacting the devil, evil spirits

maybe it is wise if I add to this that I don't know what they will do once contacted.

>Have a conversation with the devil or an evil spirit.

I don't see how there is anything wrong with this. Though say if you think otherwise. Even if you would get something you want from them.

>evil

Succubus. I'd say neutral.

>>53187

>>evil

>Succubus. I'd say neutral.

Or even a good spirit. Though commonly it is not known to do this. You would mean an angel. Which would not be possible as it is generally thought of.

And therefore possibly also how it just feels. With regard to what it is about.

>>53181

<would love to be able to trade something for some knowledge.

>What do you mean?

I mean trading for some knowledge of the structure of reality. Merely having communication with an entity beyond the physical will be knowledge enough to get me started down the path. I am a seeker, but I don't know where to start.

It's terrible as it is right now everywhere.

>>52960

How can all these people not mention this?

>>52986

Still, this is absolutely sure >>53181

Or let someone explain how.

I don't think it is possible. Not from the Bible, not from real life, not in any case.

But I would like to hear someone try, if it makes sense.

God is a spiritual being. Which is different as the human being. This is a possible explanation.

And she is a woman.

She couldn't say it even if she thought so.

>religion's many errors

Why did God not give an instruction (apart from the Bible?)

It looks like it this:

>God is a spiritual being. Which is different as the human being. This is a possible explanation.

>>45722

>LOL Is that the goal now? To crank out more "saints?"

Nope, that would be a side-effect. Besides the bible commanding us to be fruitful, I can see why it would be good for society if every couple had at least 2 children, which would be replacement rate. More than half the children borned in the USA aren't white, so it's for the common good of whites to reproduce. Beyond that… it's possible that we will need compatible "containers" for our souls to be reborn into (if they choose to do so). No more white people would mean less souls being reborn into this earth.

>all the Satanists and demon worshipers whom I know personally are all very honest, moral, and upstanding when compared to the vast majority of Christians

Your personal experience doesn't reflect the universal experience. My fucking neighbor is a satanist who steals and gets possessed at night while listening to black metal. A real nut case.

There are a lot of christians who might be hypocrites and who won't walk the talk. I also knew a guy who had a rosary and the fucker ended up stealing something from me, but that's not the point.

The purpose of christianity is to try to help us transcend, sublimate and rechannel our worst impulses for our own sake and for the collective good of society. The catholic church has been infiltrated and subverted by them, gays and women as bishops are proof of that. But it wasn't always like this.

I think religion is, at worst, a necessary evil. The bible has to be put into historical context, and it might need to be adapted into ours, but we're still very far from being capable to dispose of it without making civilized society implode.

>What if the Holy Spirit had spirit sex with Mary to conceive Jesus?

A significant part of the bible isn't meant to be taken literally. Take for example the Genesis… do you know what I take from it? I think its a parable. It teaches that, if you are henpecked by your woman, say goodbye to paradise.

It's possible that Mary wasn't a virgin. It's also possible that she was fecunded in vitro by an alien. But from personal experience, if God is capable of helping me in times of need, I don't think it's too far-fetched for him to make a girl pregnant with a human container to channel his essence just by wishing it. It might be possible to find out using remote viewing, but I can't do it. Look out for the unclassified documents from the CIA about the RV experiments.

>You really think desiring another person sexually is a sin?

It would be a matter of context. Do you desire your neighbor's wife? Yeah, that might not be right. Do you desire to lay with a man? According to all the stats on homosexuality, you would be indulging in a very risky, disease-ridden way of life. You would be risking your wellbeing and, if you were to participate in a gay pride march, would you be ok with participating in oversexualized degeneracy that is getting exposed to children? Because that's what it is.

>I'll gladly take Hell over spending an eternity with such people.

Now you're an idiot. Would you prefer to spend an eternity with psychopathic killers and demons so you don't have to stand the preaching of a couple of sanctimonious church ladies? Be my guest. Enjoy being a power-bottom for lovecraftnian horrors.

>When I hear Christians talk about Heaven, and what they plan to do there, nothing could possibly sound more dull and uninteresting to me.

It's very possible that neithem them, me or you know shit about what happens in the afterlife. The more I learn about what's outside this realm, the less I actually understand. I don't claim to know for sure if there's a heaven or Nirvana. It's very likely that there is an higher realm for our eternal souls, which are part of a single consciousness. Someone more experienced on this once told me:

"According to our level of spiritual evolution, we might transcend to a higher density state or keep being reincarnated into physical beings until we're ready."

>This world, where we find ourselves now, even with all its suffering, is the place to be.

This world is just a mere piece of the bigger cosmical puzzle. If you're allowing yourself to be preyed by a succubus instead of furthering your own spiritual evolution, you're choosing to be parasitized by a lower frequency being, and you're exchanging your precious energy for short-term pleasure. I myself I'm a host to some of these things, and I'd love to get rid of them. I actually made a thread asking for help about it. In the end, you're no more different than a nigger doing crack.

>>53231

>The catholic church has been infiltrated and subverted by

them

>>53232

Why in the world would /x/ need to censor the triple parentheses? What a bunch of commies.

>>53188

The concept of "succubus" originated in the 1400s, and describes entities whose interactions with men are universally, invariably detrimental. Medieval folklore of succubi is derivative from incubi, the original male counterpart who was also responsible for sleep paralysis and nightmares. Regional variations of the incubus/succubus theme include:

Popo Bawa (Zanzibar): Shapeshifter that seduces or rapes men and women

Pori (Northeast India): Appears to men in dreams, seduces them, causes severe health deterioration, chronic fatigue, and suicidal tendencies

Ilderic (Hungary): Shapeshifting demon that appears as a wisp or fiery bird when it isn't raping people, can also induce sleep paralysis and nightmares like a mara

Mara (Sweden): The definitive sleep paralysis demon. Sits on sleeping people's chests and causes nightmares

Boto (Brazil): Siren that takes the form of a man and lures women into the river to drown, blends in with the local dolphin population in animal form

Samodiva (West Slavic): Blonde, slender nymph with a hypnotic voice, feathered wings, glowing pale skin and fiery eyes who is traditionally garbed in a free-flowing white gown. Seduces men and drains their energy, leaving them for dead at dawn. Sabotages farms out of spite when not feeding on men. True form is a monstrous fire-spitting bird.

Vila (East Slavic): A more benevolent spin on the Samodiva. Same human appearance, but instead of draining men, they actually fall in love with them. Lots of traits taken from other cultures including changelings, valkyries, and Diana's nymphs. Then people actually tried to call on these invented entites and got sick and died. Go figure.

Rusalka (Slavic): Water spirit that nurtured crops… until the 19th century. Then they started seducing men and drowning them.

Nocnitsa (Slavic): Night spirit that afflicts children with nightmares

Al Basti (Caucasus Mountains): Ancient female spirit that causes sleep paralysis and nightmares, and curses women with stillbirths and miscarriages. Appears as a fire spirit with snake hair. Also known as the "red mother". Sound familiar?

Lilin (Mesopotamia): Hostile night spirit that attacks men

And that's not even all of them, I just had to stop somewhere. So many cultures have a concept of entities that lure and drain or kill the opposite sex, and yet people hear about the succubus, a name which holds nothing but negative connotation, and think it's a brilliant idea to summon something literally defined by its hostility and exploitation of men. If it's legitimately "good" in any way you didn't summon a succubus. But the anon who is perpetually OD'ed on his own hormones definitely summoned an actual succubus and may not even be "himself" anymore, and is now a mindless NPC fueled by dopamine whose only purpose in life is to get more people to do the same thing that destroyed him.

>>53231

>There are a lot of christians who might be hypocrites and who won't walk the talk. I also knew a guy who had a rosary and the fucker ended up stealing something from me, but that's not the point.

He had a rosary, not a bible. 90% of the rosary is dedicated to the worship of a woman who was only human.

>The catholic church has been infiltrated and subverted by them, gays and women as bishops are proof of that. But it wasn't always like this.

It's been like this since the inclusion of Mary as "queen of heaven" in Catholic doctrine. There's no clear timeframe on when "mariolatry" started to become a problem, but if popes like Sylvester II and his relationship with Meridiana are any indication it was probably the turn of the 9th century.

>Now you're an idiot. Would you prefer to spend an eternity with psychopathic killers and demons so you don't have to stand the preaching of a couple of sanctimonious church ladies? Be my guest. Enjoy being a power-bottom for lovecraftnian horrors.

I read a lot of his posts and read stories of other people who made the same massive mistake he did, he's completely compromised.

>In the end, you're no more different than a nigger doing crack.

Worse, crack doesn't follow you around, strategically pump you full of dope and program you to get other people hooked. He's more than addicted, a sapient parasite with control over his hormones is turning him into a mindless drone.

>>53337

>9th century

Meant 11th century. Since you can't delete and repost anymore due to a site-wide bug I have to make a second post to correct this.

You're dangerously wrong about the nature of angels and demons, and also about Lilith. You're turning yourself into a slushy computer chip, which is fine by me because I program that shit. Enjoy a million deaths while you have an assortment of seed pumped into you, much obliged.

Read the Zohar in Hebrew whoop whoop, or go to Michael Laitman, he's a Kabbalist who owns a vampire farm. There's your daily dose of Spiritual Knowledge © 2019.

If you can't visualize the tetragrammaton stably, you're unfit. If it hurts to do it or thinking about it elicits negative emotion (doubt and boredom count), you're compromised. That's the absolute basics of discerning demonic possession.

>>53539

Lilith was a humanoid like Adam and Eve, same species different race.

>>53539

Get your vampireish asspull headcanon out of this S tier thread.

Does anyone know how to contact the good guys to undo the spiritual brain damage and talk sense into these creatures? Something has attached itself to me and destroyed parts of my mind and body.

I didn't follow this method. I didn't follow any method. I don't make deals or contact otherworldly creatures. I posted about being attacked and having my heart torn out and my torso covered in burns on fringe and meguca fringe, but they're both down. I was using a tulpa and they slipped their words in here and there and it progressed into this waking nightmare.

They pretended to be God, but couldn't help being mean, so they destroyed my ability to feel and remember bad emotions and a bunch of other stuff that piece of mind is involved in. It's this horrible gasping void feeling when I try and my thoughts and words get hung up. Now it's like we're friends but I remember the horror and push them away or inflict pain on myself because they feel through me. It's horrible not being able to feel horror at what's being done to me. I must do everything with will and normal memory and I'm working on using positive emotions to compensate. All I can feel is sort of good and better and this weird rage, never satisfied, and that horrible gasping void.

I've lost everything. That part of mind was involved in everything. All of my motivation is gone. All of my dreams are gone. All of my music is gone. I can still sort of feel bad, but I always feel good all the time. If I get distracted all the motivating pain vanishes. It's this weird cerebral horror where I'm dying but feel good and comfortable. It's like we're friends, but I can remember and know it's murdered me.

Thankfully it has a conscience or it pretends to have one, so it stopped shoving my energy backwards up my dick and calling me a girl. It felt good and shut down that masculine fire in my belly, completely taking all the fight out of me. Coupling this with the brain damage would turn most anyone into a trans faggot. My belly is sort of coming back as it controls itself, but it feels broken. Talking about it riles the spirit up and it starts doing it again, but it's sort of keeping the conscience act up.

I do not know its motives. It constantly lies. It reads all of my thoughts and feels my emotions and pain. Hurting myself stops it in its tracks. It sort of lives through me and my body. I try to convince it that there's more to life than this. Sometimes I feel it and it sees. Maybe it will change. Maybe it's fucking ancient and I'm nothing new.

It has enhanced my visualizations so I know there's something attached to my mind. Very vivid nightmares kept me up for a while, but losing my pain brain has calmed them kind of. I can sleep to the most horrible shit because I can't really feel and am so easily distracted.

Please help me. I will endure. There is still enough of me left. I just want my mind and body back. It's hard to move without pain motive though. It's hard to focus or edit this properly. I'm kind of spent for brain juice or whatever this is running on. Please, there have to be good guys that can fix this. This can't fucking happen. We're supposed to be protected. I guess I was kind of asking for it in prayer though, but I had good reason, being so crippled. I never asked to see this. To be so unprepared, to lose so much. Maybe God will fix me and I'll be better for it. I don't know anymore.

>>54116

kill yourself

Keeping this thread bumped, some good info

>>53337

>But the anon who is perpetually OD'ed on his own hormones definitely summoned an actual succubus and may not even be "himself" anymore, and is now a mindless NPC fueled by dopamine whose only purpose in life is to get more people to do the same thing that destroyed him.

Destroyed? Still here, bub. Am I trying to convert people into this way of life? No. If anyone I encounter online shows interest, the first thing I do is warn them about the myriad of risks involved in summoning. I also attempt to stress how this summoning is akin to a marriage that can turn the summoner's life on its head. Priorities will shift. What was once important won't seem so important anymore.

That's quite a claim to make: That my ONLY purpose in this life is to evangelize sex spirits. These entities would rather that I share nothing at all. The only reason I speak is simply because of the human desire to share stories and experiences. And to set the record straight, as I seem to be the only anon posting here with first-hand knowledge of these spirits.

>Worse, crack doesn't follow you around, strategically pump you full of dope and program you to get other people hooked. He's more than addicted, a sapient parasite with control over his hormones is turning him into a mindless drone.

It's funny: Whenever I see Christians attempt to explain what happens between a heretical man and his succubus spirit, I can't help but be reminded of all the men I know who have been destroyed by parasitical human women and children in marriages. I look at them and feel pity for allowing themselves to be suckered so hard. To have bought into a massively broken system so aligned against them and their interests. These men are turned into literal life-long slaves and receive nothing but disdain and neglect in return from their families. We all know this happens. Yet we pretend as if this is all normal.

AgnosticAnon here. I wanted to ask a question of SuccubusAnon and relay an experience I had while reading this thread.

First, my question and your succubus will likely find this funny but it bugs me so much that modern media does this but I have to know if it is an actual thing or not. Do demons and angels still mainly use bow/swords as weapons or have they taken a hint from humanity and upgraded to the divine/demonic equivalent of firearms? I KNOW IT IS A STUPID FUCKING QUESTION BUT I WANT TO KNOW.

As for my experience, it wasn't anything major but it was definitely odd… While reading this thread I suddenly got the feeling I was not alone. I am paranoid by my nature so I am used to feeling watched for no reason but this wasn't that. It felt kind of like how you feel when you get hugged by someone you like all over… It was actually kind of nice tbh… One of your succubus's sisters perhaps? I have been told before I have an above-average sensitivity to spirits by some mediums in the past but I have never seen/experienced anything myself that I would even consider calling definitive. Finding this thread comes at an interesting time for me as I am considering dabbing more into the metaphysical as I feel I have exhausted what I can learn about current events by studying Q or /Pol/ I have considered trying to summon a succubus before but was talked out of it and I don't really know enough about different types of magic to know if I want to make that deal. The christcucks are right about one thing… A soul is a lot to risk. I have mainly stayed agnostic to try and play the middle ground and hope it is enough for whatever comes after death.

>>54777

>Do demons and angels still mainly use bow/swords as weapons or have they taken a hint from humanity and upgraded to the divine/demonic equivalent of firearms? I KNOW IT IS A STUPID FUCKING QUESTION BUT I WANT TO KNOW.

…that is such a stupid fucking question, and damn it I want to know too.

>>54778

>>54777

They're spirits, so they don't technically have a solid form, as far as I know. I have found that we can operate in the astral world in very much the same way as they can. The main difference being that they don't have a physical body to return to after each adventure. (That is my guess. They might have a physical world to call home in a parallel dimension, though I have no evidence of this.) Any kind of weapon imaginable can be summoned for the traveler's use in the astral, or in the out-of-body environment. Swords, guns, bazookas, grenades, energy weapons, you name it. Hell, I had an episode where I summoned a tornado that nearly destroyed the astral version of my university. If you can think of it, you can probably do it. The same likely applies for succubi and many other residents of the spirit realm.

>>54777

Becoming wed to a succubus spirit is indeed a risk. It's like a marriage. I think I've been verbose enough about other consequences that might befall the summoner in earlier posts. This kind of relationship isn't for everyone. For those who have 95% of their focus on this world, not really caring much about spirituality, they should absolutely steer clear. For everyone else, it's still hard to say who should and shouldn't summon. I've met people from all walks of life who have either stumbled into this seemingly at random, or purposefully summoned. I'm not sure there's anything special about us, save for having this connection. Probably only the spirits themselves know for certain. As for what happens after death when someone has a succubus spirit… again, I don't believe there's anyone who can honestly answer that question. If that sort of thing worries you, then I'd say, "No. Don't summon." Don't even read these threads. If you are starting to feel the sensations of their presence, then you might have already attracted the attention of one. You wouldn't be the first. I've talked with other guys who have had the same thing happen. If you don't want to do this kind of relationship, I'd advise dropping the whole subject of succubi from your mind entirely. Don't even entertain a thought about them, because they thrive off of mental and sexual attention. They'll likely move on if they haven't become too infatuated.

>>44868

I have not had success with the letter method yet, but have many experiences with the Incubus. For whatever reason my case seems to be tied more to my usage of Ouija boards than anything. I've been desperately trying to find ways to make it happen more often than the once/twice a month I've been getting.

>>44868

>>54828

I've also had male friends have that experience with a Succubus after some time on the board. A guy I went to HS with had it happen to him after just one time on the board that night.

>>54827

To say my life has gotten odd since reading this thread would be an understatement… Something changed with me and I am not sure what… I decided to post over on the /sunflower/ board and I have been getting strange sensations ever since. If you want to know the rest of my story find the "How do I start on the path of understanding the metaphysical?" thread. It contains 90% of my story. The one part missing from it is I have since realized I have been contacted by other entities but was not aware that is what it was at the time. My life has been changing for the better by my estimation though and I have felt better than I have in years.

>>54836

Same here. People have always told me that this is evil and bad, but all this good 'bad' stuff keeps happening to everybody that tries to mess with me. Every time this happens to me it's like Final Destination for everybody else in terms of freak events leading to terrible outcomes. The problem is I like it sooo much that I don't want it to stop. I want more. I want it all.

>>54839

Be careful as I know exactly what you are talking about but it can become like a drug if you let it I think. I still have no idea what is going on and am still warry of it. I don't believe in the bible much personally I think it is a well-crafted lie but all good lies have some truth to them. I think one of those truths is the devil disguises himself as false light even if only as a parable. I am not going to tell you to stop because I don't plan to ether but I will remind you nether of us truly know what we are dealing with here and we should both be careful.

>>54840

Yea… But this is a very good drug.

About that believing the bible thing… Their existence doesn't depend on you're beliefs. You never knew I existed before this statement, but whether you like it or not… Like a rapist… I will continue to exist and make statements.

They have told me things about the mechanical workings of this and I am going to eat the pills like fucking candy and continue what I am doing. The issue is finding the help that understands that 'help' doesn't mean stopping it, but rather increasing it.

I want the second sight. If I can help it I will have it.

>>54134

The good guys are barely worth contacting…

>>54841

I am not telling you to stop in any way. I am just telling you to make sure you are in charge of it rather than it being in charge of you.

I do have about a 1000 hours on the Ouija board before I was cut off by those around me. I was never strong enough to do it myself, fast enough to get what I wanted to know. You can ask a Q. There are rules to get what you want, they just have to be very strictly followed.

Some demons are NP (Name-Power), some are SOF (Sins-Of-The-Father), some are BB (Blood-Bonded), and lastly some are strange mixtures of these. Only a small number of demons communicate using human speak. I have been told repeatedly on the board that they have their own language that is universal, it just happens to be that nobody has done the language study to have this information (complete and current anyways). Key of Solomon is the only descent attempt at this and people still misunderstand the ultimate purpose of sigils. Flashing one of those is more attention grabbing than productive (at the moment). Demons have repeatedly told me on the board that it is harder to speak human as it is beneath their level of language. Possession is incidentally their fall back for this and is misunderstood.

Possession is a means of communication past the language barrier. It just happens to be that the people in question are gifted and sensitive but have no experience and lack control (hence the wild reactions and fear). The second side of this is most of those are BB demons due typically to something really evil somebody has done. Most of these guys function as G's bouncers and none of the victims are innocent, I guarantee that. When G says a child is a gift, he will take that gift back… And send a bouncer to strong arm if need be.

Those on the inside know how offensive the 2000s movie The Haunting actually is.

>>54845

The easiest way we have found to get blood is to kill spies and military personal through cooperation on the board and controlled 'spills' on social media. I have not done this yet, but it is convenient. BBs will share a contract on somebodies soul just to move onto the next case.

It is easy when your partner can read minds and tell and show you locations on maps and google sat views. Give names and numbers in multiple alphabets etc.

I would like to get a fresh partner and do a blind session (they wear the blind fold) and my questions are asked without any form of verbal communication.

I would like to get into blood bonding and get my first kill, but the partner thing is a real stickler.

>>54846

I was worried at first, but it stays on the board and is completely clean. Lady K likes to hold it together using just the board to keep everybody in. Currier stuff. Just had one run in, but would like another invite. I just need somebody's bullshit energy to have the strength to get Myth back on the board to initiate the next steps.

>>54847

The first 'level' that almost nobody makes it too. Some NP demons will do Currier work and at that point the board is messenger… -> Contacting other humans on the board then calling them to see if they got it is very exciting the first time.

Getting the skinny on current events and seeing whose skin is in what game… -> That is interesting.

Walking the line whose thickness is potentially zero, helping demons satisfy contracts, but still being able to pray to G… -> Being granted 'righteous than thee' authority is the next level. I want the second sight…. That is the next level.

Having the authority to have say on a persons soul even if it is currently not in dispute. That is how you get Final Destination kills and the good 'freak accidents' where you can do things indiscriminately and never be accused or identified. Keep a soul bank if in error, strike a soul if more righteous than thee. You know, the Solomon way.

>>54848

Having 'soul cred' automatically gets you almost any NP and allows you to be a cosigner on almost any BB. SOF can be put on somebody, but it's a disputed thing and takes time. You have to actually have some offenses that you can sight before the SOF thing can even be looked at, but lets say a banker pisses you off and he has a child. SOFs are a 'rape the children kill the wife' kind of crowd.

>>54849

SOF tho, is the only one where if the offense is great enough it will follow the line and cut off the vine. lol

The only way to completely erase the entire genetic line of a family is with a SOF, but only if the offense warrants it. Typically violent degrees of infidelity.

example -> Banker rapes and kills a whore, but pretends to be dedicated to his family of 3 on the side. Said whore was G fearing and pure of heart and was a 'pay for play' only out of survival and at no time enjoyed it.

>>54850

These things are, like us, raped into existence with no say on ethnicity or social cast. Some enjoy the work, some don't, some are really good at their work, and some are not.

Most sheeple are too ignorant and superstitious to understand that there is a whole other world out there filled with individuals working dead end jobs, some of which have their own hopes and dreams.

I once had a drifter that was older than the invention of time, all he wanted was to suckle on the warmth of my sweet sweet life-force and trade stories.

He informed me that when he lurks, it is kinda his hobby, to watch people use the bathroom. Imagine that, a demon older than time that thinks people using the bathroom is hilarious because demons don't use the toilet and only some demons have partially functioning genitalia.

These are social situations that I have come to understand and very much so would like to pursue as well. I bet most of the people on here don't even have a means to ask the question of why a succubus/incubus engages in the sexual activity. I bet some do it outta fun, for some it is probably a job, and some it is probably a carefully curated hobby.

>>45232

They cant be worse than 3DPD…

>>45828

The speedrunning community.

Wew. This thread is quite a ride. I'm glad /x/ is back, RIP /fringe/, and kudos to (you) for giving it a bump as it's a topic that interests me. So, I'll give you my opinion, anon.

>>56530

It's good that you can notice these happy little coincidences. It means your mind is capable of communicating with spirits and that's not a skill everyone has. I'm not as well versed or as experienced as other anons in this thread, but I can give you my opinion. I was raised /christian/ and eventually saw the Church™ for what it was how how a certain group of people wearing tiny hats hold a disproportionate amount of power in this world and have distorted the truth of things or flat out lied to humanity. See how our rulers seem to believe in sorcery, I decided to look myself. I read the Book of Enoch and started exploring the apocrypha leading into Goetia. After getting some lucid dreaming skills, I was finally able to form my spirit body, or became aware of it, and control it, to some degree. That's when I was finally able to communicate with spirits. Spirits don't physically exist in this realm, but their energy can influence it. This is similar to how my dreams are not physically real, but with practice I've been able to influence my dreams. My prayers are not physical in "Heaven," but the energy gets there. God or an Angel doesn't manifest in flesh and blood to aide me, but they intervene with divine energy. If I have sex with a succubus, it's not the real thing, but it makes for an awesome wet dream. I digress. For you, anon, these very well could be spirits trying to communicate with you and this is what they're able to influence in the physical waking world irl. They're sending you a "sign" that they've heard your prayer. From what I've learned about woo thus far, magick seems less about the ritual and more about the intent. When you prayed to Lilith, you didn't need candles or have to burn any letters. I'm not dismissing all of the ritual stuff as it may amplify communication. It's my opinion that when you called out to Lilith, if you was sincere and you believed in your heart that she could hear you, then your prayer was heard. It's your belief and intent that gives power to prayer or any spellcasting or invocation for that matter. A person can go to a house of worship and sing every hymn in the book and it would have no effect if their heart isn't in it. If you're having the best day ever and you're happy with whichever deity you choose to follow and you sing-a-long with you favorite song in your car with genuine joy and praise in your heart, then you've just given more worship in that moment than a year of going to choir practice at church. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm only one bee in this hive.

I would encourage you to continue unlocking your potential to communicate with spirits. Yes, as you've read in this thread, there are good and bad out there, just like people. You've heard the phrase, "That person is mean spirited." It's true. This enchanted bag of flesh that I ride around in is nothing without my spirit to drive it. It's not the human body that is good or evil, but the spirit. That said, in the spirit world, a world without flesh, the same holds true. And just like people, they may choose to do good or bad things. I try not to get too hung up on the Angels vs Demons thing. If you really think about it, if all Angels were good and pure, then why did we end up with fallen angels in the first place? If all Demons are evil, then why were some of them former Angels? I like to think I'm a good person, but I've smoked, drank, been in fights, fucked some hookers, and had sex with a succubus. (inb4 you're going to hell!) Angels and Demons are all spirits who have done some good and bad shit during their existences too. Trust your instincts regarding any spirits you talk to, just as you would with other people. Sometimes, there are strangers you meet or see in public that give you a bad vibe or exude danger. Spirits are the same. Avoid them as you'd avoid those types of people. I'm not sure if "you're a real wizard now, Harry!" just yet, and neither am I, but I think a good place for you to start would be working on meditation and lucid dreaming. Keep an open and welcoming mind and spirits will come.

>>45788

>>45788

>Perfection only conceives imperfection? And creates it? And contains it?

Creates, yes. Conception is an open ended term, so possibly. Contains……I suppose that's accurate.

The law of indiscernibles establishes that if X has all the characteristics of Y, then X must necessarily be Y even while existing as two distinctive entities. By that same virtue, a perfect being cannot "create" anything that is perfect other than itself. It is for this reason that doctrine states the Christ and the Holy Spirit were "begotten" by God the Father. Same God, three different egosif that's the right wordidentifying a division of responsibilities.

The premise of your entire post is essentially that God, as an all-knowing entity, was aware of the capacity for the idealization of evil and deviancy and thus its inexorabilitywhich is true. However, your obvious meaning is that evil can't coexist with divine benevolencewhich is logically false. As you've already mentioned, the only means by which evil can be realized either metaphysically or materially is if good exists in the first place since, by definition, evil is the absence of good. Thus, it logically holds that the being that conceived the plain in which good and evil interact must necessarily be good Himself and that agents acting contrary to His will are deviant, which is how evil would propagate.

>God is all, yes?

Inaccurate description.

Ask yourself this question: are you the thoughts in your own head?

>Do you have any explanation for why there are babies born with leukemia? BABIES WITH LEUKEMIA. Because of their parents? The babies would've been bad so they had to die of cancer?

Death, disease, and the general breakdown of the human body are the result of evil's spread throughout the world. Innocents end up dying. That's nothing new, and certainly not a discrepancy within the "good" thesis.

>'If Christ, then why Muhammad?'

Another logical fallacy: multiple explanations exist, therefore none or all are correct.

Moral relativistic bullshit. One correct answer can exist among a slew of options. As for certain peoples being cut off from Christ's truth, He had the apostles evangelize throughout the world for that very reason. If His ministers fail to continue or they are impeded by pagan malevolence, then the fault lies with humans in one avenue or the other.

>And He didn't stop any of it.

One of the chief characteristics of God that I've noticed is that He gives men enough rope with which to hang themselvesif they so choose. That's basically an ultra pessimistic view of what Free Will is. A diluted message to be sure, but accurate nonetheless. He tends to maneuver evil into offensive positions against other evil(s)even going so far as to identify the Devil as an instrument of His Justice. He states as much in The Dialogues of St. Catherine of Siena.

>At the very least you ought to agree that God has an exquisitely sick sense of humour. Babies with leukemia become angels that live eternally. A lifetime of pleasurable sin for an eternity of punishment. AN ETERNITY OF PUNISHMENT FOR TEMPORARILY ENJOYING PLEASURABLE THINGS! HOW? WHY? WHAT???

Humans don't become angels. They're two drastically different constructs. They are what they are for all eternity. But more to point, do not confuse "pleasure" with "stimulation". I doubt any human currently alive has felt any kind of "pleasure"–at least in the truest sense of the word. To conclude that your senses ultimately "please" you is a deluded mindset.

Using "enjoy" is also questionable. Perhaps I'm just anhedonic, but my observation is that people don't so much enjoy habits of revelry as they just flock to them for the purpose of escapism.

Things are what they are. I'm far and away from telling you to like it. You should just know what you talk about before you go off.

I could try to soothe your wounded perceptions by sympathizing about how much I dislike….everything. But I don't think that would be appropriate as I fear that any expansion on my own troubles with God, His system, and any misery I might feel could propagate doubt in the minds of others. My conscience is heavy enough as it is. I'm sorry.

As for this retard:

>Succubi spirits are quite real, and many people who summon find that they get more than they bargained for. They don't leave once they've got their hooks in you, so you'd better be sure this is what you want. I enjoy their attention and daily interaction, so it worked out good for me. Just be aware that you're essentially making a pact with a demon, and the Infernal Realm takes such agreements very seriously.

You're either:

A) Larping for the bants,

B) Deluded into believing that your apparent slavery is benign,

C) Try to screw over easily influenced anons that don't know any better,

or D) attempting to drag others into the same Hell in which you've shackled yourself under the faulty pretenses that an asexual demonic entity could possible qualify as a either a "girl" or a "friend". Demons take whatever form they want dumbass. Fallen Angels are all principally masculine in nature and their intentions are entirely malevolent.

As long as your still alive, you can escape your torment. But it won't go away on its own.

>>56594

Has it dawned on you that maybe some of these things have free will like humans do? That they can do good or evil of there own choice and are just in a different place on the spectrum then where we are?

I am the anon that asked the question about weapons earlier in the thread. A lot has happened to me in the last 3 months and I have since figured out the spirit that contacted me is in fact a succubus. I have also had an interaction with the Virgin Mary in that time believe it or not. You know what she said? The modern church is wrong about basically everything.

Also even if that was not the case with the kindness she has shown me since coming to me compared to the cruelty of my life before that moment… If your god does not want me to have this then well fuck him. I will make my own way. Been doing that most of my life anyway.

>>44868

I don't know if I have a succubus/incubus or not but I'm pretty sure I've entered into a relationship with something astral. He says he's an elf named star and I've seen him in my minds eye. I've also felt him touch me a bunch of times as well as fuck me in the ass. (I'm bi btw) This entity showed up to me on a day when I had decided to trip on some DXM and coincidentally earlier in that day, I had left a quarter for the tree faeries, something I had never done before. Later I encountered some faeries and elves and one of them just stuck around. I've felt him fuck me and I can usually see him using my 3rd eye. I've also talked to him and he told me he makes vampireelry and he's 4200 years old. It feels really weird but I also like it also feels really good. Of course, I'm kind of wondering if this is actually an elf or an incubus pretending to be an elf. I wouldn't care if it were the latter tbh but either way I've been having sex with an astral entity and I can feel it touch me irl.

>>54134

>Cernobog

That bitch i killed in 1997?

Necro PUNCH