/x/ - Paranormal

>>38116

Wim Hoff Breathing exercises, drinking lots of natural (unfloridated) water, meditation and healthy eating, self discipline, challenging one's beliefs of nature and spirit, small doses of psilocybin mushrooms and indica cannabis, staying away from alcohol and cns depressants, intermitent fasting.

Do not open your doors to the evil.

I know, sounds like a cheap preacher, but it works.

>>38116

OP here is a gigantic healthy eating guide (vegan of course). Huge amounts of people miss the connections between /x/, /fringe/, and /pol/. Even more people miss the connections of those with /ck/.

>>>/fringe/118642

>vegan guide (how to eat vegan and NOT fuck up)

https://archive.is/o6S91

>>>/fringe/82473

>how to poop good

https://archive.is/FaED8

>>>/fringe/119294

>karma discussion on healthy eating

https://archive.is/xHMiy

Lower your serotonin. Initiate your awakening.

>>38138

how?

>>38139

When you are accepting of truth at the lowest level of your being, the awakening can start. As long as you deny truth, serotonin will be locked away in many places where it will freeze your body and mind into inhibition through excitation thereby blocking the free flow of energy that results in many dualities or separation.

>>38144

what are some good ways of lowering your serotonine and what is your perspective, your personal take on the truth in both simple and complicated terms? I want to learn.

>>38146

Truth is wholeness before you. It pervades the senses. Truth is qualia, and acceptance is unattached observation of qualia. Visually, truth is the entire field of view entering the eyes. Focusing on a single point of a painting is denial of the view which receives the whole painting and therefore fixation on a fragment. There are many categories of qualia, and traditionally awakening is allowed to initiate by first partaking in observation of the lowest sense in the lowest levels of self.

What is the difference between focus and distraction? Therefore, a state of awareness is relaxed perception without grasping at sensation.

>>38150

what are some truths that you hold to be absolute?

what is your definition of qualia?

If truth is what we see, how can we trust that if perception is reality?

what I'm getting at is that we obviously live in the matrix and what we see is not always what the truth is.

>>38151

This opinion comes from a higher sense (whether wrong or right). It is therefore a thing you "see".

>>38152

to see beyond the senses. to reach out with your feelings. this is the way of the jedi.

>>38153

I will post information on serotonin when I return to my desktop. BBL

The way serotonin freezes the organism is hinted at by how it plays a fundamental role in the behavior of inhibition:

>We demonstrate that C. elegans uses biogenic amines to switch between distinct crawling and swimming gaits. Dopamine is necessary and sufficient to initiate and maintain crawling after swimming. Serotonin is necessary and sufficient to transition from crawling to swimming and to inhibit a set of crawl-specific behaviors.

—Vidal-Gadea, Andrés, et al, 2011

This inhibition is not just physical, however. It affects the whole organism from body to brain, and it can seem fairly benign in the case of walking gait or alternatively more malicious when out of balance:

>Serotonin (5-HT) plays a central role in the neurochemistry of the learned helplessness animal model of depression.

—Wu, Jianhua, et al, 1999

It's contribution to despair might be seen as intrinsic to its inhibitive, freezing nature:

>Basal 5HT levels in rats perfused before exposure to tail-shock stress did not themselves correlate with subsequent learned helplessness behavior. However, 5HT release after stress showed a significant increase with helpless behavior. These data support the hypothesis that a cortical serotonergic excess is causally related to the development of learned helplessness.

—Petty, Frederick, et al, 1994

And is doubly confirmed by the livening effect of its absence (Angoa-Pérez, Mariana, et al, 2014) or antagonism:

>Rats previously subjected to a session of 60 inescapable foot-shocks exhibited a deficit of escape performance in three subsequent shuttle-box sessions. The 5-HT3 receptor antagonists administered i.p. twice daily on a chronic schedule (zacopride 0.03-2 mg/kg per day; ondansetron and ICS 205-930: 0.125-2 mg/kg per day) reduced the number of escape failures at low to moderate daily doses.

—Martin, Patrick, Henri Gozlan, and Alain J. Puech, 1992

• Vidal-Gadea, Andrés, et al. Caenorhabditis elegans selects distinct crawling and swimming gaits via dopamine and serotonin. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 108.42 (2011): 17504-17509.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1108673108

⤓ http://www.pnas.org/content/108/42/17504.full.pdf

• Wu, Jianhua, et al. Serotonin and learned helplessness: a regional study of 5-HT1A, 5-HT2A receptors and the serotonin transport site in rat brain. Journal of psychiatric research 33.1 (1999): 17-22.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1016/S0022-3956(98)00041-7

⤓ http://www.journalofpsychiatricresearch.com/article/S0022-3956(98)00041-7/pdf

• Petty, Frederick, et al. In vivo serotonin release and learned helplessness. Psychiatry research 52.3 (1994): 285-293.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1016/0165-1781(94)90074-4

⤓ http://www.psy-journal.com/article/0165-1781(94)90074-4/pdf

• Martin, Patrick, Henri Gozlan, and Alain J. Puech. 5-HT3 receptor antagonists reverse helpless behaviour in rats. European journal of pharmacology 212.1 (1992): 73-78.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1016/0014-2999(92)90074-E

• Angoa-Pérez, Mariana, et al. Mice genetically depleted of brain serotonin do not display a depression-like behavioral phenotype. ACS chemical neuroscience 5.10 (2014): 908-919.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1021/cn500096g

⤓ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4777283/pdf/nihms763252.pdf

>Mice lacking the gene for TPH2 are genetically depleted of brain 5HT and were tested for a depression-like behavioral phenotype using a battery of valid tests for affective-like disorders in animals.

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>The behavioral phenotype of the TPH2-/- mouse questions the role of 5HT in depression.

In experimental animal models, SSRI administration is shown to decrease playfulness (Knutson, Brian, Jaak Panksepp, and Douglas Pruitt, 1996) and to increase aggression (Peters, Joseph R., et al, 2017) but does this increase in animal aggression translate to human aggression and violence? According to Molero, Yasmina, et al (2015) it does:

>Using within-individual statistical models, there was a significant but modest overall association (an association unlikely to have occurred by chance) between SSRIs and convictions for violent crime. After adjustment for age, the association between SSRIs and convictions for violent crimes remained significant for individuals (males and females combined or males and females considered separately) aged 15 to 24 years but became non-significant among older individuals.

Which would more shed light on the background context behind the Columbine shootings:

>(CNN) – Reports surfaced Wednesday that one of the gunmen in the Littleton, Colorado, school shooting, Eric Harris, was rejected by Marine Corps recruiters days before the Columbine High School massacre because he was under a doctor's care and had been prescribed an anti-depressant medication.

>Harris' prescription was for Luvox, an anti-depressant medication commonly used to treat patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

>It is one of a class of drugs called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI). Other SSRIs are Prozac, Paxil and Zoloft. Prozac is the most commonly prescribed anti-depressant in the United States.

But how do SSRIs cause some people to become violent and lash out? Marcinkiewcz, Catherine A., et al (2016) hint at the idea that SSRIs cause anxiety and fear in certain contexts, and one can imagine this initiates a fight or flight state of mind:

>Serotonin (also known as 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT)) is a neurotransmitter that has an essential role in the regulation of emotion. However, the precise circuits have not yet been defined through which aversive states are orchestrated by 5-HT. Here we show that 5-HT from the dorsal raphe nucleus (5-HTDRN) enhances fear and anxiety and activates a subpopulation of corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF) neurons in the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (CRFBNST) in mice.

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>Furthermore, we demonstrate that this CRFBNST inhibitory circuit underlies aversive behaviour following acute exposure to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs).

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>These results reveal an essential 5-HTDRN→CRFBNST circuit governing fear and anxiety, and provide a potential mechanistic explanation for the clinical observation of early adverse events to SSRI treatment in some patients with anxiety disorders[1][2].

• Knutson, Brian, Jaak Panksepp, and Douglas Pruitt. Effects of fluoxetine on play dominance in juvenile rats. Aggressive Behavior: Official Journal of the International Society for Research on Aggression 22.4 (1996): 297-307.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1002/(SICI)1098-2337(1996)22:4%3C297::AID-AB5%3E3.0.CO;2-I

>Fluoxetine treatment (5 mg/kg) significantly reduced both pins and dorsal contacts in all treated rats. The results indicate that fluoxetine can reduce the playful pins of juvenile rats, but that prior social learning mediates the strength of these effects.

• Peters, Joseph R., et al. Prozac in the water: Chronic fluoxetine exposure and predation risk interact to shape behaviors in an estuarine crab. Ecology and Evolution 7.21 (2017): 9151-9161.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1002/ece3.3453

⤓ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ece3.3453

>Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressants such as fluoxetine hydrochloride (Prozac®) are among the more prevalent categories of pharmaceuticals detected in the marine environment (Kreke & Dietrich, 2008; Vasskog et al., 2008; Brodin et al., 2014; Gaw et al., 2014). SSRIs have been developed to delay the reuptake of serotonin, moderating neurotransmission in the human brain.

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>In Chasmagnathus crabs, Pedetta, Kaczer, and Maldonado (2010) modulated individual aggressiveness via manipulation of serotonin and octopamine levels, where aggressiveness increased and decreased with the addition of the respective hormone. Our results demonstrate similar effects in H. oregonensis. Perhaps fluoxetine, through modulation of serotonin levels, stimulates crab activity levels and drives aggressive behaviors.

• Molero, Yasmina, et al. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors and violent crime: a cohort study. PLoS medicine 12.9 (2015): e1001875.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.1001875

⤓ http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001875&type=printable

• Salvatore, S. Columbine shooter was prescribed antidepressant. CNN Interactive, April 29 (1999).

☞ http://edition.cnn.com/HEALTH/9904/29/luvox.explainer/

• Marcinkiewcz, Catherine A., et al. Serotonin engages an anxiety and fear-promoting circuit in the extended amygdala. Nature 537.7618 (2016): 97.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1038/nature19318

>>38153

I like to think I do this but I can guarantee my truth is a hell of a lot different than yours

>>38137

I could see there being bad energy from the meat industry for sure

>>38158

Appreciate the effort posts, will have to look into this

>>38116

I use qigong to clean my spirit. The way I do it is by forming a chiball, then using it as a sort of vacuum to remove all the bad energy and contain it in a chiball before dispensing it. After posting this, I'll just clean your spirit for you; I'll try some work on your pineal as well.

OP, it's >>38166 again. Your pineal is extremely calcified, I can't clean the physical calcification with qigong, but you should be able to break most of it away yourself by using it some more.

>>38167

Can I ask what else you saw?

>>38166

Thanks by the way

>>38166

I feel significantly better by the way.

>>38139

The best way to initiate your awakening is through creating chiballs to start off, it's a simple hand exercise that picks up based on your current life's intended level of spiritual development.

>>38168

>what else you saw?

I'll look again and tell you what your spirit is like;

- Sky-blue.

- Standing.

- Head of your spirit feels like it's constantly checking its surroundings.

- Spirit size is equivalent to waterfall.

- When I interact with it, it feels somewhat rejecting - similar to how one would react if some stranger on the street puts their hands on you and tried to tell you something with really intense, confronting expression; the reaction of: "What the fuck? Get off me." Type feeling.

- Spirit animal could possibly be a dolphin.

>>38170

Yeah, it was nearly entirely covered in metaphysical filth; was surprised, I've never seen a spirit like that before. Did you have a traumatic upbringing? Could be past-life trauma too.

>>38171

The way I feel now is so different than anything I ever remembered feeling. And yes I did have a traumatic past.

Though I can live with that and most bad energies don't bother me. I'm trying to get rid of an energy of dwelling on my hate for someone that lives a very depressing and miserable life of spewing filth at people. I don't want to feel what they feel, yet I could tell this person wanted me to feel their pain. I wonder what arts they secretly know of. The feeling is completely gone now, though. Maybe slightly faint. Thank you.

>>38172

Then again some people don't know of any arts, they are just naturally toxic I suppose and calling that an art is being generous to say the least

>>38175

Nevermind, I guess it matters not. I feel like my afflictions are gone now. Thanks. You are gifted and you must have vast power and energy

Feed on pain and hate, it fuels the dark side of power

>>38171

I'm trying really hard to get into quigong. can you please teach me what I need to get started with chiballs and quigong? do you have any really strong good pro-tips on that? I've watched so many videos but I need someone real to talk to.

>>38180

>>38181

I'm really hoping you come back. I've got that feeling inside when I know I'm about to go through something really intense and learn. I hope you're still there energy qigong anon.

>>38182

I think I might be lost on the whole energy and qigong thing without you. actually getting a bit too worried, like that feeling when you think someone's abandoned a thread never to return.

https://archive.is/kQDte

5HT and serotonin mentioned here. what does this mean?

>>38186

sorry forgot to mention it's about vitex chaste berries. (folklore suggests it's an anti-aphrodesiac) which just happens to be a common side effect of SSRI's which also effect serotonine according to science reference anons posts.

>>38180

SSRIs do not block serotonin. They inhibit reuptake, which means serotonin sticks around longer to influence things for a longer time.

>>38190

Oh I guess that didn't make much sense to me. So modern scientists claim that serotonine is a feel good chemical, and what you're saying is that it's actually a feel-bad chemical? And you're saying that those drugs keep more serotonine in your system LONGER. fug.

so what are your thoughts on the archive about chaste berries?

>>38172

>The way I feel now is so different than anything I ever remembered feeling

I'm glad to have helped.

>Maybe slightly faint

That would most likely be because the experience is ingrained in your intuition now; it's going to be stuck in your spirit for the rest of eternity, but it won't be so much of a negative effect now; more of a lesson from experience.

>>38174

>some people don't know of any arts

When people like that are smashing shit and going ape-shit in a seemingly-blind fashion, you can usually base it on metaphysical repression. Most often though, whatever unethical things you do in this life will be the things that happen to you in future lives. I'm close with Karl-Otto Koch's reincarnate and their life is practically imprisonment, she's only tiptoeing between the line of being forced to take anti-depressants in order to keep her under some kind of mundane control by her family at the result of an extremely manipulative sister and an insanely obsessive mother; it's really sad, but interesting to observe how the other side works with all of this. It's a shame that a lot of the true injustices you experience in your life don't go compensated for until the next life and you can't even feel the satisfaction in future lives, especially since a lot of it isn't based upon revenge (because that would just start the cycle of learning lessons you've already been taught again).

>>38176

>You are gifted and you must have vast power and energy

Thank you, everybody has the ability to do it - the hardest part is learning to trust your own abilities.

>>38180

>would you be so kind as to clean up my bad energy as well and tell me what you found?

Yeah alright, I just cleaned your spirit; took a bit longer than other anon's, but not by too much.

Your spirit;

- Long and elongated.

- Kind of reminds me of some kind of Egyptian statue, the one where the pharaoh is holding that staff where it has some kind of circular loop at the end.

- When reacting to mine, it feels like we've been friends before; probably had a few good past lives together.

- Golden aura, you might have source energy; would explain past lives. I'd recommend unlocking your metaphysical abilities because I think you'd be able to advance pretty quickly.

- Cheery and joyful.

- When I was about to have one last feel of your energy, I got a flash of a blue pool table for some reason; not sure why.

- I also got a glimpse of outer-space, have you recently had a day where you woke up and sort of didn't feel like you existed?

- I think your spirit animal may be a leopard.

>>38181

>can you please teach me what I need to get started with chiballs and quigong

Practically all you need to do is sit upright, close your eyes (helps concentration), take full breaths (fill your diaphragm), use both of your hands to form a ball of metaphysical energy (follow your intuition, it's sort of indescribable); you should start to feel heat in your hands - don't exactly search for the heat because you need to relax your mind - trusting yourself is key in this exercise. Once you start practicing, eventually you'll begin to get a pretty bad headache; that's just the other side working on you to increase your abilities. While other side is working on you, try hold out as long as you can but when it becomes too much, practically just scream: "STOP!" In your head and the pain will slowly wear off; a lot of the other side haven't had physical lives before so they don't quite understand pain - but you also need to make sure they don't go on too long otherwise you might damage your DNA.

>any really strong good pro-tips on that?

Protip: just trust yourself and realise that it's okay to feel like you're going insane when doing this. In retrospect, insane people just have thoughts too complex for most people to comprehend (and if they're not hurting anybody, it doesn't really matter), but most people also think that the current state of our civilisation is at a healthy level so I mean, take what you will from them.

>I hope you're still there

I come on /x/ a fair bit, don't worry.

>>38206

>Yeah alright, I just cleaned your spirit; took a bit longer than other anon's, but not by too much.

>- When reacting to mine, it feels like we've been friends before; probably had a few good past lives together.

I feel like I've overstayed my welcome on earth tbh. I'm sure I had very good friends before but I'm all alone now. Had no real serious friends in this life but I still remember the feeling of having them and it feels like a terrible loss. Maybe they just moved on without me. I don't resent them for it if it's the case. I probably previously deserved it but I'm not the same anymore.

>- Golden aura, you might have source energy; would explain past lives. I'd recommend unlocking your metaphysical abilities because I think you'd be able to advance pretty quickly.

Can you try to teach me? I feel like it's my only option now. I would appreciate it alot. I need alot of specifics and context to be able to grasp, but I'm great with abstract ideas.

>- Cheery and joyful.

I try to be but I don't know how long it will last. I feel like a plant on the edge of a dry and crumbling cliff. I don't know which of the water or the earth beneath me will run out first.

>- When I was about to have one last feel of your energy, I got a flash of a blue pool table for some reason; not sure why.

Was every single part of it blue? or just the part that is usually green? The balls too? (not trying to make a joke here) do you know any other specifics? I'm curious as to what your feelings understood it as meaning maybe symbolically.

>- I also got a glimpse of outer-space, have you recently had a day where you woke up and sort of didn't feel like you existed?

Every day more and more but it's more of a feeling that the rest of the world doesn't exist and that I'm where I shouldn't be.

>- I think your spirit animal may be a leopard.

That's funny but I hope it's wrong. I hope I'm better than just some wild cat. Maybe I misunderstand the meaning.

I'm really happy you came back to the thread. I had this really strange feeling all day but after reading what you said just started feeling this really clean sense of serenity. Thanks for that.

>Practically all you need to do is sit upright, close your eyes (helps concentration), take full breaths (fill your diaphragm), use both of your hands to form a ball of metaphysical energy (follow your intuition, it's sort of indescribable); you should start to feel heat in your hands - don't exactly search for the heat because you need to relax your mind - trusting yourself is key in this exercise. Once you start practicing, eventually you'll begin to get a pretty bad headache; that's just the other side working on you to increase your abilities. While other side is working on you, try hold out as long as you can but when it becomes too much, practically just scream: "STOP!" In your head and the pain will slowly wear off; a lot of the other side haven't had physical lives before so they don't quite understand pain - but you also need to make sure they don't go on too long otherwise you might damage your DNA.

Whoa. Exactly how does your DNA get damaged? Is it a good idea to keep doing this a little every day until it feels easier? Should I just keep doing this forever? Once I create the ball, what do I do with it?

>In retrospect, insane people just have thoughts too complex for most people to comprehend (and if they're not hurting anybody, it doesn't really matter),

Very true. what are your thoughts on when you see someone who has become insane and can see things that others can't understand, but also appear to be suffering? I can in some ways relate to that, but at a certain point it looks like they are in hell while also experiencing massive untold realizations, and then they seem to totally disconnect and often pass away soon after.

>but most people also think that the current state of our civilisation is at a healthy level so I mean, take what you will from them.

Sometimes I just can't handle that other people think everything is fine. In some really advanced ways everything is technically speaking fine, but that's a bit complicated especially since we are on the non-fine side of things.

>I hope you're still there

>I come on /x/ a fair bit, don't worry.

YAY. That's really cool.

>>38186

>>38201

Sorry but did you scan over the linked article you posted? That's called a review, and it doesn't go into the nitty gritty details of the research it overviews. There's also no discussion of serotonin to be found when searching the article for keywords "serotonin", "5-HT", and "5HT". One of the article's referenced studies may or may not have significant information relevant to serotonin and chaste berry, but this is a very strange starting point of a review pertaining to polycystic ovary syndrome. I don't know why you would start looking for relationships between chaste berry and serotonin here.

I don't know anything about chaste berry, but if I wanted to know its relationship to serotonin, I would probably start by searching a scholarly search engine such as scholar.google.com (or another search provider) with the keywords "chaste berry" (or its "scientific" name) and "serotonin" to see what studies have been done.

>>38213

When I did "control F" and typed 5HT and serotonin there were parts of the page that mentioned it but I guess looking back it was a very silly mention of it but I don't know why they did. Maybe I was really tired when I posted it, I must have been very confused so I'm sorry.

>>38215

Yes, and that is also what I saw, but it wasn't meaningful. First mention was to reference 40 https://doi.org/10.1016/S0944-7113(00)80058-6

which may or may not be interesting to you.

Second mention was to a referenced work studying black cohosh. There's no meaningful discussion of serotonin in the review you linked.

>>38217

Really must have been very tired… again I'm sorry. If you're qigong anon I definitely still want to continue the conversation

>>38212

>>38221

>If you're qigong anon

Ye I am.

>>38212

>>- Cheery and joyful.

>I try to be

The spirit and the physical body aren't often identical because your astrological placements basically act as a filter for your spirit to be embodied; unless you have some extremely wonderful astrology, your spirit and your physical body won't be identical.

>Was every single part of it blue? or just the part that is usually green?

Just the part that's usually green. I didn't make out any of the balls on the table.

>a feeling that the rest of the world doesn't exist and that I'm where I shouldn't be.

Yeah, the world isn't going down a pleasant path currently.

>I hope I'm better than just some wild cat

I'd consider leopard to be a great enough spirit animal, mine is only a grizzly bear. The human form is limiting, my spirit has existed since the creation of the universe and I'm pretty sure you can only hold the spirit of the current body your planet originated on.

>Thanks for that.

No worries.

>Exactly how does your DNA get damaged?

I only found out recently. I was using metaphysical healing to help a friend with stomach pain and could only heal the metaphysical pain (which is the pain felt by the unconscious, meaning the physical pain still remained) so I asked the other side: "How do I develop my abilities to physically heal.

They responded: "Through mutation."

"And what are the negatives if I allow you to advance my level to the point where I mutate."

"Your genetics will be damaged and your bloodline will end."

"Would that be unethical considering I'd be able to physically heal people?"

"You'd be killing the bloodline that all of your ancestors have aimed to preserve for selfish, irrational means." They were selfish because I was advancing myself more than other humans for the sake of being more advanced; I understood that subconsciously but wouldn't have admitted it if I didn't consult otherside first.

>Is it a good idea to keep doing this a little every day

Try to do it for at least 15 minutes minimum each day, that's how I started. Eventually you become practiced enough where you can understand how to use it in every-day life. It's also easier when you are in direct, on-demand contact with a person so you can use metaphysical interaction while practicing with other people.

>Once I create the ball, what do I do with it?

Whatever you feel like, you can put specific emotional energy into it and send it to people around you; love, joy, healing (most required on this planet), etc. It can be abused, the person who taught me would send sexual energy to girls and otherside would fuck him up because of it. A lot of branching out has to do with following intuition; I remember when my mentor abandoned me and I had to start learning on my own, the first thing I did was sort of enter my spirit in mars for some reason. Not sure why I did that, just thought it would be cool to go to another planet.

>what are your thoughts on when you see someone who has become insane and can see things that others can't understand, but also appear to be suffering?

Before qigong: "Lunatics."

After qigong: "Bad at articulation."

>at a certain point it looks like they are in hell

Yeah, once you practically become aware that we're living in the true equivalent of hell, distractions and escapism seem to lose their effect.

>Sometimes I just can't handle that other people think everything is fine

Yeah I've become used to it, but the only thing that still tugs away at me is that fact that if everybody on the planet were to have a shift in consciousness, we'd advance by multitudes.

>>38229

This guy is fucking with you. I—the one that posted about serotonin—have not talked to you about qigong.

>>38232

When you look at the amount of efforts I'm putting in my post, what gives you the notion that I'd go that much out of my way to fuck with someone? What good would it bring me and what makes you think that?

>>38233

>more fucking around

There's nothing left for me to say here. As long as OP gets the message that he has been primarily talking to at least two individuals about two different topics, I don't care. It's up to him to discern. That's why I cite research when I have more important points to get across, and that's what I'll do if an argument justifies such supporting evidence again. And failing that, I'll say he has to experiment for himself.

>>38234

Rightio, man. Rightio.

>>38230

>The spirit and the physical body aren't often identical because your astrological placements basically act as a filter for your spirit to be embodied; unless you have some extremely wonderful astrology, your spirit and your physical body won't be identical.

Oh so you're saying my natural true self is all happy goody goody and all that. That's good news.

>Just the part that's usually green. I didn't make out any of the balls on the table.

gosh, I really wonder what that meant.

>I'd consider leopard to be a great enough spirit animal, mine is only a grizzly bear. The human form is limiting, my spirit has existed since the creation of the universe and I'm pretty sure you can only hold the spirit of the current body your planet originated on.

what makes a leopard better or worse than a grizzly bear? they both hunt and eat stuff.

>I'm pretty sure you can only hold the spirit of the current body your planet originated on.

>the current body your planet originated on.

????

>Exactly how does your DNA get damaged?

>I only found out recently. I was using metaphysical healing to help a friend with stomach pain and could only heal the metaphysical pain (which is the pain felt by the unconscious, meaning the physical pain still remained) so I asked the other side: "How do I develop my abilities to physically heal.They responded: "Through mutation."

>"And what are the negatives if I allow you to advance my level to the point where I mutate."

>"Your genetics will be damaged and your bloodline will end."

>"Would that be unethical considering I'd be able to physically heal people?"

>"You'd be killing the bloodline that all of your ancestors have aimed to preserve for selfish, irrational means." They were selfish because I was advancing myself more than other humans for the sake of being more advanced; I understood that subconsciously but wouldn't have admitted it if I didn't consult otherside first.

Wait, what's so bad about becoming better than others? as long as you're not hurting anyone why would progress be punishable? is it only genetic incompatibility preventing childbirth? you become effectively sterile because mating doesn't yeild because it's the wrong match to everyone else's DNA?

>>38230

>Try to do it for at least 15 minutes minimum each day, that's how I started. Eventually you become practiced enough where you can understand how to use it in every-day life. It's also easier when you are in direct, on-demand contact with a person so you can use metaphysical interaction while practicing with other people.

so you can advance without damaging your DNA? or does it just get damaged eventually no matter what? is the DNA damage by the limited understanding of humanity, just a narrow minded definition of damage? or is the DNA actually better but it's just so different that you stop being human and that's just perceived as damage by others who are normal?

>Whatever you feel like, you can put specific emotional energy into it and send it to people around you; love, joy, healing (most required on this planet), etc. It can be abused, the person who taught me would send sexual energy to girls and otherside would fuck him up because of it. A lot of branching out has to do with following intuition; I remember when my mentor abandoned me and I had to start learning on my own, the first thing I did was sort of enter my spirit in mars for some reason. Not sure why I did that, just thought it would be cool to go to another planet.

does the energy basically never run out like neverending love energy or something? how do you send it? I don't want to make some kind of mistake and get hurt or mess someone up because of running around shooting happy love healing lasers at everyone. also just for the fun of hearing the story, what kind of stuff would happen when you're friend would send sexual energy at others? I don't plan to be abusive or anything but I want to hear the story so much for laughs.

>what are your thoughts on when you see someone who has become insane and can see things that others can't understand, but also appear to be suffering?

>Before qigong: "Lunatics."

>After qigong: "Bad at articulation."

I really like that

>at a certain point it looks like they are in hell

>Yeah, once you practically become aware that we're living in the true equivalent of hell, distractions and escapism seem to lose their effect.

I'm impressed you know about this. what are your ideas on death/afterlife/heaven?

>Sometimes I just can't handle that other people think everything is fine

>Yeah I've become used to it, but the only thing that still tugs away at me is that fact that if everybody on the planet were to have a shift in consciousness, we'd advance by multitudes.

this is very true. I think about that alot but it hurts because I know people are just so messed up and many don't even want to change.

>>38265

>what makes a leopard better or worse than a grizzly bear

They're great for different reasons, your spirit animal primarily has to do with your behaviour.

>the current body your planet originated on.

My bad, I meant the current planet your body originated on.

>what's so bad about becoming better than others?

The last person that had those abilities were Jesus, and his spirit has been wiped since then because in future lives he became too arrogant. To be supreme over all other beings is bad for your spirit in the end, it was a tested theory by the First Creators and the experiment failed.

>is it only genetic incompatibility preventing childbirth? you become effectively sterile because mating doesn't yeild because it's the wrong match to everyone else's DNA?

Pretty much, but it's not purely becoming sterile; it would include other birth-defects as well such as deformities.

>>38266

>so you can advance without damaging your DNA?

Currently our DNA is already capable of these abilities, we have just never been taught to practice them because - admittedly - we're better slaves when we aren't capable of these abilities. It's much easier to control the masses when they know only that which is presented to them.

>or does it just get damaged eventually no matter what?

You can advance to a point far enough that does end up altering your DNA, but due to the limitations on human capability it can be a small-enough change that it doesn't cause your bloodline to die out (unless of course you follow the intense procedure that would advance you beyond the current stage of current human-capability).

>is the DNA damage by the limited understanding of humanity

It's more-so that it's altered to a point that would be incapable of healthy development when spreading your genetics which is - in turn - unethical, because when you practice these abilities then have children of your own, their genetics will already have the lost abilities refreshed in their DNA; future abilities are left for the future generations that you will eventually become a part of in future lives.

>or is the DNA actually better but it's just so different that you stop being human and that's just perceived as damage by others who are normal?

You don't stop being human, but it's too advanced and becomes incompatible with current human genetics.

>does the energy basically never run out like neverending love energy or something?

Yeah, qi is life-energy; it's what makes up the universe so the source is limitless.

>how do you send it?

>shooting happy love healing lasers at everyone.

top David Icke but practically this.

>I don't want to make some kind of mistake and get hurt or mess someone up because of ^^^

The worst it'll be is a feeling of intense energy which usually just feels uncomfortable - similar to anxiety but without the actual fear attached to it. You can usually gauge how much a person's spirit can handle once you're more practiced. I remember when I first started, I was taught by a beginner and while she was putting nice-feelings into my head it was like receiving really sharp points of pain to specific areas. Another time when I was teaching somebody else, they'd always send their energy to me and it made me uncomfortable because it was pretty dirty and she'd sent it in heavy amounts; it's a common mistake to make when you're first starting out because you want to make sure that what you're doing is working, but now when I'm sending energy I learned I don't actually need to send that much; it feels like you're doing nothing, but you can feel the energetic connection - when interacting with somebody and stopping, you feel yourself disconnecting and you want to reconnect because it's often a very pleasant feeling. When energetically connected (especially when interacting with love), you can feel your heartbeat change, I haven't tested the hypothesis but I'm pretty sure the heartbeats sync up to the same BPM.

>what kind of stuff would happen when you're friend would send sexual energy at others?

He would tell me that he got "Burned." I didn't really ask about it because he would go on about so much shit that you could barely keep a conversation with him about a specific topic.

>I'm impressed you know about this

Everybody has it in them to know these things, they're just held back for obvious reasons in regard to control.

>>38266

>what are your ideas on death/afterlife/heaven?

Death is just a state of being purely metaphysical; a sort of vacation after being alive/physical. This is a stage where you're able to reflect on what happened to you during that lifetime to solidify the experiences/lessons into your intuition, as well as reflect on what unethical things you did in that life so you know what lessons to teach yourself in order to develop in future ones. You're also able decide which pathway you're going to go down in the next life; before the First Creators (what people considered to be God; beings that were cruel and abusive for the sake of spiritual growth and development) were killed (in 2012 because somebody had finally developed enough in the universe to overcome their power), we were forced into body every thirty years or so; now though, we're able to choose what bodies we enter, as well as when (or when not) to enter body again, we've now got the spiritual freedom to choose not to enter body anymore if we please. In terms of heaven & hell though: Heaven is being purely metaphysical in a sense, while hell would be the equivalent of physicality.

>it hurts because I know people are just so messed up and many don't even want to change

Yeah, I know the exact feeling you're talking about; I either feel pity or anger when I think about it: fear or stupidity through self-retardation is the reason people don't develop. I suppose this is why secret elite societies form, but they're never a good idea because once you've formulated a group that is supreme over all other beings on the planet, you naturally become a supremacist.

>>38283

>They're great for different reasons, your spirit animal primarily has to do with your behaviour.

what are the differences in behavior from a leopard or a grizzly bear? what makes those behaviors significant?

>The last person that had those abilities were Jesus, and his spirit has been wiped since then because in future lives he became too arrogant. To be supreme over all other beings is bad for your spirit in the end, it was a tested theory by the First Creators and the experiment failed.

If you already have a pessimistic attitude (while not being an actual pessimist) towars human beings in general, and are already completely aware of all the flaws not just in humanity, but in yourself as well, what are the problems with being better? lets say you have done a good job learning about the ego and what's a big no-no and what's okay and how to not go crazy with power, isn't it at that point a very good thing to grow spiritually?

>Pretty much, but it's not purely becoming sterile; it would include other birth-defects as well such as deformities.

Yikes…

<so you can advance without damaging your DNA?

>Currently our DNA is already capable of these abilities, we have just never been taught to practice them because - admittedly - we're better slaves when we aren't capable of these abilities. It's much easier to control the masses when they know only that which is presented to them.

So what is the main reason someone would want to upgrade their DNA at the risk of damaging it to use abilities that they secretly already know how to use without remembering?

>You can advance to a point far enough that does end up altering your DNA, but due to the limitations on human capability it can be a small-enough change that it doesn't cause your bloodline to die out (unless of course you follow the intense procedure that would advance you beyond the current stage of current human-capability).

what's the small change way of doing it, and what's the intense procedure way of advancing?

>>38283

>It's more-so that it's altered to a point that would be incapable of healthy development when spreading your genetics which is - in turn - unethical, because when you practice these abilities then have children of your own, their genetics will already have the lost abilities refreshed in their DNA; future abilities are left for the future generations that you will eventually become a part of in future lives.

What happens if you're not going to be around in future generations? Is it at this point a non-issue to decide to advance even if you become genetically incompatible?

>how do you send it?

>shooting happy love healing lasers at everyone.

>top David Icke but practically this. (was this a "top David Icke" like a laugh?)

but how do you actually do it? I sort of don't even know what to even do.. at all.

>now when I'm sending energy I learned I don't actually need to send that much; it feels like you're doing nothing,

so a very small change makes big effects. just like a small addition of spice to a food makes it all taste better than just adding a ton of that spice.

>He would tell me that he got "Burned." I didn't really ask about it because he would go on about so much shit that you could barely keep a conversation with him about a specific topic.

I wonder what that could have meant??

>Everybody has it in them to know these things, they're just held back for obvious reasons in regard to control.

sometimes I see people figure things out of thin air that I also figured out of thin air. like God is showing us pieces of the truth slowly as we can swallow it.

>>38283

>Heaven is being purely metaphysical in a sense, while hell would be the equivalent of physicality.

I'm just curious about your opinion on this thought I had.

>in heaven

>want to experience the joy and good feelings of eating a pizza

>in non-physicality so project a holy-projected-physicality thing of that pizza

>eat it in heaven

>feels good

>don't get fat because can't cause in heaven

I mean, we still have avatars right? (like you choose how you look and feel and still enjoy things without it being in hell) I'm just thinking that I don't like the idea of being in hell (here) but I don't like the idea of being a floaty glowing cloud of poof that can't enjoy anything or even receive a back rub. like, I believe that in heaven you can experience all the things you want without any of the bad sides of anything. Your thoughts?

>Yeah, I know the exact feeling you're talking about; I either feel pity or anger when I think about it: fear or stupidity through self-retardation is the reason people don't develop. I suppose this is why secret elite societies form, but they're never a good idea because once you've formulated a group that is supreme over all other beings on the planet, you naturally become a supremacist.

It's really sad because these groups always inevitably form and then others form in the idea that the inevitable existance of the evil groups is proper justification of the formation of new "good" groups but eventually the "good" groups always become corrupt or the members switch out and get replaced with bad ones (like a videogame dev studio, bioware/ EA). so then comes the realization that groups kind of tend to be mostly and almost always bad and the only things you can depend on are yourself, except even then you realize that you're very imperfect and go "aww fug" but then you realize the only thing you can really depend on is God. so at that point the whole thing (life I guess) becomes this huge ocean of multiple overlapping personal journeys taking place for everyone and you have to basically wander and strive for spiritual growth and try to not influence the world back way too hard lest you accidentally sabotage the journeys and mission and story critical characters and prevent people from having the inevitable learning experiences they were supposed to have. You have to have this insane willpower to just sit back and watch the world become a darker and darker place while you do nothing to stop it until it becomes brighter again somehow and then you realize that it doesn't matter what you do because it's all a part of the story anyway and nothing you could ever do could take place beyond the boundaries of said story, but simultaneously you instinctively choose to be the most good (by your own definitions of what good is) even though the whole thing is on the rails so to speak and choose to knowingly be good, and avoid evil because it doesn't feel righ to be evil anyway.

so yea, it's really complicated. that being said I will be honest and say that I want to grow spiritually even if it means that I wont create any future generations. I'm moving up and i need your help.

>>38305

>the differences in behavior from a leopard or a grizzly bear?

When it comes to spirit animal, you can match the general behaviour of the animals themselves to the person's spirit. My girlfriend has spider energy for example, so she enjoys spending her time in the dark and doesn't really like associating with others too much; keeps to herself a lot. Just general behaviours of the animal take similarities with the person who has their spirit.

>what makes those behaviors significant?

It's practically the same as what makes the animal's significant in the animal kingdom; you usually take spirit animal's energies from past lives before your spirit was at the capacity to become human.

>what are the problems with being better?

Being supreme to other beings will eventually have you develop supremacist mentalities towards them; it's one of the inevitable flaws of the human species, as well as the Annunaki who were formerly enslaving this planet.

>So what is the main reason someone would want to upgrade their DNA

Increases intelligence, strength and general connection with other living beings; DNA being properly damaged from the advancement of metaphysical abilities is very rare - I haven't heard or seen a case of it so far because usually the migraine that comes from meta-puberty (when the other side is boosting your abilities) will become too painful anyway. Naturally, the person would get to a stage that they'd signal the other side to stop (most likely subconsciously). The only time that would be truly worrying is if the person under development was aware that holding out through the pain would eventually develop them to superhuman levels, but that would be intensely painful to the point where you'd become practically incapable of doing anything and go for over a week (or longer depending on how much you'd be willing to hold out for).

>isn't it at that point a very good thing to grow spiritually?

It is, but it's more so the future lives that would be problematic, in turn causing you to eventually have your spirit wiped and all progress lost. It's not worth the sacrifice in my opinion.

>what's the small change way of doing it, and what's the intense procedure way of advancing?

The only way to advance (so far with the limited technology we have available) is by not telling the other side to stop when going through meta-puberty, but I'd be surprised if anybody could hold out; there's also the worry of the field cranking you down anyway in order to limit your abilities. I was cranked down once and became really pissed off about it, but that was back in the era of Annunaki rule.

>What happens if you're not going to be around in future generations?

For that to have happened, that would mean you spirit existing is/was either too problematic for the existence of the Universe (Jesus, Stalin, etc), or because you chose to never re-enter body again and remain metaphysical.

>Is it at this point a non-issue to decide to advance even if you become genetically incompatible?

I mean, you could go ahead with trying it, but you're going to have to withstand an intense period of suffering that you can't distract yourself at a high-risk of having your spirit erased in the future anyway. Becoming too advanced as an individual would result in problems that would most-likely leave the other side with no choice other than to erase your spirit.

>but how do you actually do it?

At this stage, I'd say you should just practice creating chiballs until it feels second-nature; once you're practiced enough you'll be able to do it without even using your hands. You'll eventually get to the point where you can create chiballs and send metaphysical energy when having a conversation or playing video games. Chiballs are just balls of energy, and it's not so much the ball that makes it significant, but instead the chi. This means that you can use the chi to create anything: streams, figures, shields, balls, beams, etc. Chi is a source of infinite harness, you've only got to learn how to grasp the feeling of it firs, and the easiest way to do that is through creating chiballs.

>>38306

>so a very small change makes big effects. just like a small addition of spice to a food makes it all taste better than just adding a ton of that spice.

Yes, pretty much.

>I wonder what that could have meant??

I'm guessing he was either cranked-down (which is a jabbing, stinging/burning pain), or they just fucked him over in one way or another.

>>38307

>in heaven

>want to experience the joy and good feelings of eating a pizza

When metaphysical, you're more so in a state of pure being instead of a state where you're capable of wanting; practically in a DMT breakthrough. But if you still did want to experience the joy and good feelings, it would purely be the joy and good feelings that come about without needing the pizza to obtain it.

>I believe that in heaven you can experience all the things you want without any of the bad sides of anything. Your thoughts?

In the true equivalent of heaven, you don't really feel 'want' though like I said before, you can reap the pure feelings that would come from an experience.

>You have to have this insane willpower to just sit back and watch the world become a darker and darker place while you do nothing to stop it until it becomes brighter again somehow

That insane willpower is just silence. When you see there is space for improvement, you should know that by being aware of the space for improvement is an indicator of what you should strive to improve. There's a reason it becomes lighter, and it's because there are people that recognise that if they're the only ones aware of the problems in society as a result of being consciously aware, they have been given the means to follow it.

>even though the whole thing is on the rails so to speak

This was the case until 2012 when the First Creators were destroyed; everything was set in stone by them, but now they're gone so it's now up to the individual spirit to guide the universe into a better state of being.

>by your own definitions of what good is

Try thinking in terms of ethical and unethical to grow beyond good and evil.

>I want to grow spiritually even if it means that I wont create any future generations

I thought so, but I can only guide you so far up to the point I've reached metaphysically.

>i need your help.

Well start by creating chiballs and once you've got a grasp of that, let me know where you'd like to improve next and I'll help you get there where I can.

>>38308

>what are the problems with being better?

>Being supreme to other beings will eventually have you develop supremacist mentalities towards them; it's one of the inevitable flaws of the human species, as well as the Annunaki who were formerly enslaving this planet.

What if I just already casually dislike most people in a passive way? I get happy when I bump into those rare truly good people. It's not exactly wrong to accept a simple factual truth that sometimes some people are better than others, but only if you accept the fact that you yourself are also not as good as someone else. There's always a better person, and always worse people too right? What I mean by this without sounding too edgy or dark (not the tone I'm trying to go for here) is that I know I'm not perfect, but I know the difference between someone who's a decent person and a very bad one. what's strange is that even good people can do bad things sometimes, and even bad people can do good things sometimes. It's really weird. I'm being honest when I say that I'm just sick of it all. I'm just ready to move on.

>So what is the main reason someone would want to upgrade their DNA

>Increases intelligence, strength and general connection with other living beings; DNA being properly damaged from the advancement of metaphysical abilities is very rare - I haven't heard or seen a case of it so far because usually the migraine that comes from meta-puberty (when the other side is boosting your abilities) will become too painful anyway. Naturally, the person would get to a stage that they'd signal the other side to stop (most likely subconsciously). The only time that would be truly worrying is if the person under development was aware that holding out through the pain would eventually develop them to superhuman levels, but that would be intensely painful to the point where you'd become practically incapable of doing anything and go for over a week (or longer depending on how much you'd be willing to hold out for).

Odd, so someone could fast and meditate growing their chiballs for a week straight or more and become like goku? (I joke)

>>38308

>isn't it at that point a very good thing to grow spiritually?

>It is, but it's more so the future lives that would be problematic, in turn causing you to eventually have your spirit wiped and all progress lost. It's not worth the sacrifice in my opinion.

who's in charge of wiping? why do they do it? at what point is "enough" "enough"? what is even considered "good" or "bad" and by what definitions at that level? If you are not seeking improvement and progress, then what is one to do but sit in life, life after life stagnant doing things of absolutely no value or meaning? I take it that it's important to advance carefully without being a total jerk right? basically power ^ but ego ——————- flatline, improvement without going mad with the power. I understand that even if someone had all the power and tried to make the world a perfect place by force, that it would become just as equally pointless as a videogame that is ruined by excessive use of cheat codes. It may have been boring enough before to seem to justify the use of cheat codes but after using them it's even more boring and pointless than before. Even then, after all that- It's still not truly freedom/heaven. So I understand that there's no point in trying way to hard to change the world because the world is the way that the high one wills it. Who am I to mess with that? But also who am I to not play my part of the story? it's very complicated and I grasp that and it weighs heavily in my mind.

>what's the small change way of doing it, and what's the intense procedure way of advancing?

>The only way to advance (so far with the limited technology we have available) is by not telling the other side to stop when going through meta-puberty, but I'd be surprised if anybody could hold out; there's also the worry of the field cranking you down anyway in order to limit your abilities. I was cranked down once and became really pissed off about it, but that was back in the era of Annunaki rule.

I know you explained to me how to make a chiball before, but can you kindly explain to me a step by step list of what to do and in what order? I wish to write it down and get it right, nice and organized when I do it so that I can do it properly.

>What happens if you're not going to be around in future generations?

>For that to have happened, that would mean you spirit existing is/was either too problematic for the existence of the Universe (Jesus, Stalin, etc), or because you chose to never re-enter body again and remain metaphysical.

yea I'm on my way out permanently.

>>38308

>Is it at this point a non-issue to decide to advance even if you become genetically incompatible?

>I mean, you could go ahead with trying it, but you're going to have to withstand an intense period of suffering that you can't distract yourself at a high-risk of having your spirit erased in the future anyway. Becoming too advanced as an individual would result in problems that would most-likely leave the other side with no choice other than to erase your spirit.

What if I don't really want to affect anyone else and I just want to go be at peace in my own version of paradise forever? Do you think I'll be erased just for wanting something that may not ever affect anyone or anything else ever again? as much as I would like to go full crazy batman mode and change the world in some kind of fantasy comic book type of thing, I understand how pointless that would be and how disruptive it would be for everyone else's journey. It would be spiritually pointless for myself and others and have no rewards anyway. I wonder if I can just "go home"

>At this stage, I'd say you should just practice creating chiballs until it feels second-nature; once you're practiced enough you'll be able to do it without even using your hands. You'll eventually get to the point where you can create chiballs and send metaphysical energy when having a conversation or playing video games. Chiballs are just balls of energy, and it's not so much the ball that makes it significant, but instead the chi. This means that you can use the chi to create anything: streams, figures, shields, balls, beams, etc. Chi is a source of infinite harness, you've only got to learn how to grasp the feeling of it firs, and the easiest way to do that is through creating chiballs.

That really makes alot of sense. It feels truthful. Like it's just a fact. Really cool. I know I asked before but if there's an organized step by step list you could show me I feel that maybe I could feel a little more stable and secure about it. I just want to take it seriously (without stressing out too, because too much serious is also no good) and avoid causing trouble.

>>38308

>I'm guessing he was either cranked-down (which is a jabbing, stinging/burning pain), or they just fucked him over in one way or another.

That's an awful feeling. I used to get crashed down really hard very very long ago when I didn't understand much about ego. I would think "oh yea I'm so fugging cool oh yea" and then I would get smashed to death by the energy like a punishment and realize I was being a jerk. eventually I kind of got it and it suddenly made me a much better person.

>When metaphysical, you're more so in a state of pure being instead of a state where you're capable of wanting; practically in a DMT breakthrough. But if you still did want to experience the joy and good feelings, it would purely be the joy and good feelings that come about without needing the pizza to obtain it.

>In the true equivalent of heaven, you don't really feel 'want' though like I said before, you can reap the pure feelings that would come from an experience.

I feel that I can grasp this state of being clearly and It doesn't feel satisfying or fulfilling to me when I put myself there. Just like people take a pill here on earth to trick themselves into believing they are happy, (which I view as a great and terrible dishonesty towards oneself) I feel that I would be incomplete with only the feelings of joy without something good existing or happing to make me feel that way. In a sense I feel that this would feel catastrophically artificial and unsatisfying, which is why (pizza is just some silly example) I would personally value the experience of the senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, tasting, and all the other un-named senses, sensing that pizza (even if it's just a hologram heaven pizza that just seems real) in order to justify the enjoyment. If I just felt "good" but I was blind and deaf for the lack of a better way of describing it, I would be sad even though I felt happy and that would painfully contradict my feelings and experience of "heaven". I would imagine that for heaven to make me truly happy It would have to properly simulate a reality which is NOT hell physicality, but rather holy physicality plus it runs by different/better rulesets and just functions better and differently in many ways so that I could grasp and experience a context from which to appreciate the holy perfection and peace and love and joy and happiness and all those good things.

for example (using /r9k/ and /a/ posters as a fun, cute, silly example)

>in hell reality (here)- feel trapped and horrible

>in heaven (but complete lack of any physicality)- feel good, but still trapped- so feel trapped and horrible.

>in heaven but get to be in a real anime and get to be the anime girl with anime girl friends and there's green tea kit kat bars and whatever else would make X person happy (haha)- sufficient contextual-ness = happy

Do you kind of get what I mean? what are your thoughts on this? I want the best of both worlds without any of the drawbacks from any, and I think that's what real heaven is (unless heaven is different for everyone?)

>>38308

>even though the whole thing is on the rails so to speak

>This was the case until 2012 when the First Creators were destroyed; everything was set in stone by them, but now they're gone so it's now up to the individual spirit to guide the universe into a better state of being.

I felt so many things starting to change since then. maybe even since before then? I don't know. but every year (even though time is totally fake pshh) I feel that we all awaken further. It's not even close to being done. I kind of want to stick around just to see it get better but I feel that would be a terrilbe hypocritical betrayal towards myself, but I'm afraid I may not even have a choice. I'm seeking any and all answers I can get so that I can learn if I can go now, or understand how to make it to the end if I must wait, and how to wait comfortably and safely without starving or dying a slow and painful death of boredom coupled with lonelyness and overwhelming anxiety from a hell world that doesn't allow one to do, or to not do- to be, or not to be- that is the question.

(of course I want to be, but I want to be free while I be, and be forever but in the good place!)

>Try thinking in terms of ethical and unethical to grow beyond good and evil.

Many others have amazingly vastly different ideas of what is ethical and unethical. I personally try my best to avoid suffering, and helping others to avoid suffering. I try to just state the truth and just be as direct and as honest as possible in every single interaction in my life unless there is a darn good reason not to. It makes me sad when I give someone the help they need in a golden cup for free like "here, just take it, this is all you gotta do to win and be healed or feel better or learn" most of them walk right through me like a ghost and take a dive off the same cliff that the rest of them do. It kills me deep inside. It's a major struggle to not view everyone else like stupid little insects, but then I always remember that among the oceans of evil there are specks of truly good and innocent people and I remember that even ants don't deserve to be stepped on. but mosquitos? you suck my blood you get the newspaper sorry but not sorry… o_O sometimes you aren't given a choice and just need to act but there's not always a proper way to do everything. It's just a big confusing game

>>38308

>I thought so, but I can only guide you so far up to the point I've reached metaphysically.

>Well start by creating chiballs and once you've got a grasp of that, let me know where you'd like to improve next and I'll help you get there where I can.

Okay. I will be practicing what you have taught me. I will keep checking this thread every now and then, but if I can't find this thread anymore or try to get your attention in here and can't, I will just wander around /x/ asking around for "chiball qigong anon" or maybe I will even make a thread about my experiences with what you taught me on /x/ here, or maybe if you prefer I can make the thread on /fringe/ eventually. I don't know how long I will be practicing. I don't want to keep you waiting forever like a hostage because I'm sure your time is valuable of course. (even though time is fake pffff) so I'm just going to let you reply to this and give me a better idea of what's the best and most comfortable way for you to get us talking again when the time is right (even though time is totally fake psssssssh) and I'm still really interested in your responses too. Thanks for dedicating this much effort to me thus far.

>>38324

Okay So… here's what happened so far.

>sat upright

>closed eyes

>started to move my hands in ways that felt like I was forming a ball of energy (just whatever natural movements felt right)

>my hands and arms started to get very sore and my palms became like hot ice, both warm and ice like all at once while my arms became cold

>I could feel the energy ball pulsing like a magnet repelling another magnet

>I felt the chi ball was complete and I let it hover up above me and then it just went hyperspeed like the millenium falcon in a direction as if to go to a specific destination.

I think the chi ball flew directly to you or somewhere very near or related to you qigong anon. I could feel it like it was meant to go your way. what this means, I do not know. H-how did I do?

I feel like I already replied to all this but apparently not; weird.

>>38320

>who's in charge of wiping?

The other side.

>why do they do it?

In order to preserve stability in the universe; the most recent spirit that was wiped was Stalin's for: "Atrocities", because his acts were so unethical that they corrupted his spirit.

>what is even considered "good" or "bad" and by what definitions at that level

Think instead in terms of "ethical" and "unethical".

>If you are not seeking improvement and progress, then what is one to do but sit in life, life after life stagnant doing things of absolutely no value or meaning?

>>38319

>What if I just already casually dislike most people in a passive way?

In this life, you could be fine but it's more the next you've got to worry about. Knowing that you were once somebody greater than everybody else would most-likely end up corrupting your spirit.

>so someone could fast and meditate growing their chiballs for a week straight or more and become like goku?

Pretty much, it would just be intensely painful and a lot less cool.

>But also who am I to not play my part of the story?

Yeah, it's a lot to try and grasp but eventually you find your specific place and understand how you - as an individual - can develop the universe.

>step by step list

1. Get in a comfortable position.

2. Relax your mind.

3. Take full breaths, filling your diaphragm.

4. Hold your hands up an shape them as if you're carrying something.

5. Explicitly intend in your mind to create a chiball ("I want to create a chiball"), and start moving your hands in whatever way feels natural to grow the chiball.

>yea I'm on my way out permanently.

My friend's doing that as well.

>Do you think I'll be erased just for wanting something that may not ever affect anyone or anything else ever again?

No, silence wouldn't lead to corruption and eventually your spirit would grow tired of inactivity anyway. A three-hundred year break is most-likely going to be enough for most spirits.

>I understand how pointless that would be and how disruptive it would be for everyone else's journey

It would've happened for a reason though, wouldn't it have? Nothing is coincidental.

>It would be spiritually pointless for myself and others and have no rewards anyway

Even minor lessons are still lessons.

>I wonder if I can just "go home"

Ghandi/Da Vinci/Plato/Napoleon's reincarnate has been saying exactly that for a while now.

>It feels truthful. Like it's just a fact

I know, it's really hard to explain to people without them trying it, and until they're willing to abandon doubt for whatever dogmatic purpose that led them there, they're never going to learn the key to the universe. Excessive faith in science is epistemologically unsound because the scientific method has limits. Insisting otherwise is a dogma called scientism.

>>38322

>I would think "oh yea I'm so fugging cool oh yea" and then I would get smashed to death by the energy like a punishment and realize I was being a jerk

Yeah, a similar thing happened to me. I became really arrogant in regards to law enforcement because of qigong and a whole bunch of exopolitical shit; thought I was practically untouchable, but then I got in a car chase, escaped, crashed soon afterwards and was arrested. Everything else that was good in my life at that stage seemed to disappear at the same time as well; the other side really like to give me a hard time, typical Pluto retrograde though.

>I would personally value the experience of the senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, tasting, and all the other un-named senses

Then perhaps you will end up entering body again soon enough anyway in order to experience the nice things of physicality; nobody is trapped in specific states of being in this universe. You can enter body whenever you choose, and you can exit it whenever as well.

>Do you kind of get what I mean? what are your thoughts on this?

I do, but by the time you die all of the memories that developed in your conscious die with your physical mind so in regards to the interactive anime world, to understand you'd need to know why they want that world, and what comes from the why would be what they experience instead of the way to get to the place you want to achieve. Breaking through on DMT is the closest experience you can have to death.

>I want the best of both worlds without any of the drawbacks from any, and I think that's what real heaven is

Well when truly brought down to it, there is no heaven; metaphysicality is the closest thing that you can have to heaven just like there's no hell, and physicality is the closest thing you can have in comparison to it. Once you get more in touch with the feelings of meta, you'll be able to contact other side directly and they can answer all of the queries you have regarding it. I primarily only talk to them about ethics and sometimes exopolitics.

>I kind of want to stick around just to see it get better

That's what my friend's doing as well.

>but I'm afraid I may not even have a choice

Remember to take quantum immortality into consideration; the other side will have you killed when you're no longer meant to be alive. Any self-inflicted death would only kill you in the fractals of the universe in which you were supposed to die that way, but ultimately you would eventually live until the destined final date of your physical existence.

>Many others have amazingly vastly different ideas of what is ethical and unethical

Most of the time (especially with Utilitarians), what is considered "ethical" is a shallow comprehension; the more you think about the ethics behind what you're doing, the more you'll understand whether or not it's the right choice. When thinking deeply enough about ethics, you'll find it becomes subjective rather than objective.

>avoid suffering, and helping others to avoid suffering

Suffering results in growth though, so there must be a balance; consider the analogy of a dark room - if it has light brought into it, it's no longer dark, but if it's purely light, it's just as invisible as it would've been if there were no light at all.

>I try to just state the truth

Which also leads to suffering, because the truth is finding out that things you've always known are lies, and that is never a pleasant feeling.

>take a dive off the same cliff that the rest of them do

That's the value of suffering; failure is the best teacher, and there are future lives in which to implement those lessons.

>It's a major struggle to not view everyone else like stupid little insects

Yeah I know exactly the feeling you mean.

>you suck my blood you get the newspaper

There's nothing good about parasites, but when I'm on DMT I'm more tolerant of them because they're just hungry and won't exactly bleed me dry, but when I'm not they can fuck off.

>>38324

>or maybe if you prefer I can make the thread on /fringe/ eventually

I only started using /fringe/ yesterday, but yeah. I'll probably be there as well as a bunch of other people who have a pretty good idea on what they're talking about.

>I don't want to keep you waiting forever like a hostage because I'm sure your time is valuable of course

I'll get to you whenever I've got the chance, don't worry about it.

>Thanks for dedicating this much effort to me thus far.

That's alright, somebody has to do it otherwise there's going to be no development.

>>38330

>my palms became like hot ice, both warm and ice like all at once while my arms became cold

Ayyy, nice work.

>I think the chi ball flew directly to you or somewhere very near or related to you qigong anon.

That would explain the feeling in my pineal I got last night when I was in an intense discussion. I felt it and figured it was just ETs again but couldn't really bring my attention as to what it was because I was preoccupied, but fuck ye nice work mane. You've made me very proud.

>>38343

>I feel like I already replied to all this but apparently not; weird.

>We've just been in this place before

>HIGHER ON THE STREET

>And I know it's myyyyy timmmme too goooooooo

>CALLING YOU, and the search is a mysterrrrrrrrryyyyyyy

>Standing on my feet

>It's so hard WHEN WE TRY TO BE WE, Wooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

>DEJA VU

>WE'VE just been in this time before

>HIGHER ON THE BEAT

>And I know it's a place to goooooooooooooo

>CALLING YOU and the search is a mysterrryyyyyyyyy

>Standing on my feet

>See the future into the present

>See my past leaves in the distance

>Try to guess now what's going on

>And the band begins to play

>It's so hard when we try to be we, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>DEJAAA VUUU!!!

>The other side.

who is the other side to you?

>In order to preserve stability in the universe; the most recent spirit that was wiped was Stalin's for: "Atrocities", because his acts were so unethical that they corrupted his spirit.

what about hitler? I wont get mad so you can be honest.

>If you are not seeking improvement and progress, then what is one to do but sit in life, life after life stagnant doing things of absolutely no value or meaning?

was this left as is intentionally?

>In this life, you could be fine but it's more the next you've got to worry about. Knowing that you were once somebody greater than everybody else would most-likely end up corrupting your spirit.

I could see how becoming delusional with ego and pride could drive anyone insane. I try to always be fair and see clearly no matter what situation I'm in. I try to treat others the way that I would want to be treated in their position. I also understand that what is the best for me may not always be the best for someone else. It's tough you know? you also have to treat every situation like it's special. try to cover everything like a blanket of lazyness and eventually everything goes wrong.

>Pretty much, it would just be intensely painful and a lot less cool.

if you try to practice alot do you eventually become like too powerful for your own good no matter what you do? what is the genuine good approach when it comes to that point that allows you to still be powerful but not become corrupt? I would like to believe that I would be a good person no matter what but I know it corrupts others. sometimes people are a product of their environment but some rise beyond it and decide to become something good even if they were a good seed growing in bad soil.

>step by step list

thanks qigong anon.

>>38343

>yea I'm on my way out permanently.

>My friend's doing that as well.

I just had a higher up level conversation with you, I typed out a reply here and then just backspaced the whole thing because you already answered my question.

It was so natural and quick, I don't know if I ever did that with another person before, but maybe you didn't actively notice front-consciously but that might also be an assumption.

I think you're a really strong soul and I hope you find peace eventually.

>No, silence wouldn't lead to corruption and eventually your spirit would grow tired of inactivity anyway. A three-hundred year break is most-likely going to be enough for most spirits.

I don't plan on just sleeping or anything, and I don't really plan on only taking a three-hundred year break but rather a permanent one ,unless there's a really really fun and good reason to come back for just a little while.

>It would've happened for a reason though, wouldn't it have? Nothing is coincidental.

true.

>Even minor lessons are still lessons.

true.

>I wonder if I can just "go home"

>Ghandi/Da Vinci/Plato/Napoleon's reincarnate has been saying exactly that for a while now.

I guess they've seen so much already. It would make alot of sense that they would be so homesick. what do you think were some of their best philosophical ideas? (from all times)

>I know, it's really hard to explain to people without them trying it, and until they're willing to abandon doubt for whatever dogmatic purpose that led them there, they're never going to learn the key to the universe. Excessive faith in science is epistemologically unsound because the scientific method has limits. Insisting otherwise is a dogma called scientism.

yup.

>>38343

>Yeah, a similar thing happened to me. I became really arrogant in regards to law enforcement because of qigong and a whole bunch of exopolitical shit; thought I was practically untouchable, but then I got in a car chase, escaped, crashed soon afterwards and was arrested. Everything else that was good in my life at that stage seemed to disappear at the same time as well; the other side really like to give me a hard time, typical Pluto retrograde though.

whoa dude hohoha. I know that anything can happen to anyone, I'm hopeful that things never get that intense here for me. I'm not some super hero who could survive that. that's really intense.

>I would personally value the experience of the senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, tasting, and all the other un-named senses

>Then perhaps you will end up entering body again soon enough anyway in order to experience the nice things of physicality; nobody is trapped in specific states of being in this universe. You can enter body whenever you choose, and you can exit it whenever as well.

So you're saying that it's either be blind and deaf but feel good, (which makes me feel bad) or get to experience the senses but only in hell? I'm absolutely sure that's not really how it works…

>I do, but by the time you die all of the memories that developed in your conscious die with your physical mind so in regards to the interactive anime world, to understand you'd need to know why they want that world, and what comes from the why would be what they experience instead of the way to get to the place you want to achieve. Breaking through on DMT is the closest experience you can have to death.

I don't fully understand or agree on what I did, but it's interesting thought anyway.

>>38343

>I want the best of both worlds without any of the drawbacks from any, and I think that's what real heaven is

>Well when truly brought down to it, there is no heaven; metaphysicality is the closest thing that you can have to heaven just like there's no hell, and physicality is the closest thing you can have in comparison to it. Once you get more in touch with the feelings of meta, you'll be able to contact other side directly and they can answer all of the queries you have regarding it. I primarily only talk to them about ethics and sometimes exopolitics.

Don't you think the "other siders" would just build "heaven"?

>I kind of want to stick around just to see it get better

>That's what my friend's doing as well.

>Remember to take quantum immortality into consideration; the other side will have you killed when you're no longer meant to be alive. Any self-inflicted death would only kill you in the fractals of the universe in which you were supposed to die that way, but ultimately you would eventually live until the destined final date of your physical existence.

I have done some, some research on this and it's really amazing but scary stuff. I'm sure I died many times before, probably more than I even realize. (not intentionally exactly) and every time the world is changed.

>Most of the time (especially with Utilitarians), what is considered "ethical" is a shallow comprehension; the more you think about the ethics behind what you're doing, the more you'll understand whether or not it's the right choice. When thinking deeply enough about ethics, you'll find it becomes subjective rather than objective.

can you give me an example?

>Suffering results in growth though, so there must be a balance; consider the analogy of a dark room - if it has light brought into it, it's no longer dark, but if it's purely light, it's just as invisible as it would've been if there were no light at all.

in some cases at least.

>Which also leads to suffering, because the truth is finding out that things you've always known are lies, and that is never a pleasant feeling.

Yea I know what you mean.

>>38343

>There's nothing good about parasites, but when I'm on DMT I'm more tolerant of them because they're just hungry and won't exactly bleed me dry, but when I'm not they can fuck off.

Pffahah….

>I only started using /fringe/ yesterday, but yeah. I'll probably be there as well as a bunch of other people who have a pretty good idea on what they're talking about.

yea /fringe/ has some decent stuff. it's got some shills just like here, but otherwise it's really peaceful.

>'ll get to you whenever I've got the chance, don't worry about it.

cool anon thanks.

>That's alright, somebody has to do it otherwise there's going to be no development.

thanks thanks

>Ayyy, nice work.

thanks!

>That would explain the feeling in my pineal I got last night when I was in an intense discussion. I felt it and figured it was just ETs again but couldn't really bring my attention as to what it was because I was preoccupied, but fuck ye nice work mane. You've made me very proud.

oh this is awesome, feels really good. never knew I could do that until you showed me! this is really sweet! totally cool. thank you. I'm all freaked out but I'm calm too because for some reason when I get too happy and excited about certain things I get smashed because I or someone/something else is keeping my ego tamed so I learn to not get too happy and freak out too much. It's kind of a nice built in safety if you will.

If you are willing, I'll learn more from you if you would like. If you feel that's right. or I could just keep up the practice. if you do choose to keep showing me how to do things I promise I wont bite off more than I can chew, I'll try to take it nice and easy and careful so I don't do something inexperienced or blow my mind and get toasted.

>>38359

>who is the other side to you?

Nobody in particular; there's this side, and the other side.

>what about hitler?

Hitler died in the 60's and I'm friends with his reincarnate now; he didn't commit any atrocities and in his past life so in this life, he's extremely healthy. The only negatives he has is a deadbeat father (again) and some pretty bad self-esteem issues. Hitler did too many great things for the planet that overwhelmed the damage he caused during the war to have even come close to having his spirit wiped; all /pol/ aside, he was a great leader.

>was this left as is intentionally?

Yeah, it's better to just have you run the questions through your head so you can develop your own ideas. You're capable of finding the answer yourself.

>do you eventually become like too powerful for your own good

Yes, but the human form is extremely limiting at it's current level.

>what is the genuine good approach when it comes to that point that allows you to still be powerful but not become corrupt?

The only thing that could really protect you from that point would be the insightful knowledge that comes from developing yourself metaphysically.

>I don't know if I ever did that with another person before

Metaphysical interaction is one of the coolest fucking things to do on this planet.

>I hope you find peace eventually

I don't think I'm supposed to find peace anymore; my spirit has the responsibility of bringing it about, but I honestly just hope that after I do I'm fulfilled with it. I sometimes worry that things will never feel like enough in this life as a way for the physical realm to constantly strive forward; somebody has to do it.

>what do you think were some of their best philosophical ideas?

Don't know to be honest, I never really studied the things they've said I'll admit. I mainly learn everything I know from personal experience.

>>38361

>I'm not some super hero who could survive that

Hahahaha, I'm not a super-hero; nobody feels capable of ideas so fucked up until they finally happen - I never would've thought to tolerate that beforehand; experience is the best teacher.

>be blind and deaf but feel good

Not quite, when you're metaphysical you are everything; vision, taste, feeling, sound, scent; it's not so black and white.

>>38362

>Don't you think the "other siders" would just build "heaven"?

There's no point in building heaven when you practically become heaven.

>I'm sure I died many times before, probably more than I even realize

The amount of times I have and will die in this life is around 10,438 times according to the other side.

>can you give me an example?

Let's take for example a person who's betrayed their country by selling their secrets to an enemy nation. The nation who's had their secrets sold have ultimately improved the state of the country, and will eventually improve the rest of the world once their ideas are followed - this occurrence happened a few years after the new way of life came into power. If you had him arrested and unable to escape, would it be ethical to execute the traitor of the nation, lock him up, or have him expelled? If you were to expel him, the seller would be able to use the passion of revenge (he has already betrayed the nation before) in order to develop a militia against the nation, in turn destroying a chance at a better world; if he were locked up for the rest of his life, you are risking him eventually escaping, if you were to execute him, all of those future worries to the nation would be eliminated along with the irrational, greedy offender. The ethical problem though, would be that you are forcibly taking a life (which is considered unethical because you weren't behind bringing them into life in the first place), but would it be ethical to risk the entire nation's security and livelihood by letting this offender go free? Debate could eventually straighten out the issue much more than a single person thinking ethically alone, but sometimes it's unnecessary to speak of ethical hypothetical unless it's going to directly influence your life. This is just an example of the method of critical thinking you'd need to take in order to come to an ethical decision.

>>38363

>never knew I could do that until you showed me

Hahaha, that's a common case in regards to qigong. I wish these abilities weren't kept from us.

>I'll learn more from you if you would like

Whatever questions you have or whatever directions you hope to advance in, I'm willing to help guide you, but eventually you'll come to a point where you can understand how to guide yourself. I'm just here to teach you how to get to that level. There should never be a limit on development.

>>38388

>what about hitler?

>Hitler died in the 60's and I'm friends with his reincarnate now; he didn't commit any atrocities and in his past life so in this life, he's extremely healthy. The only negatives he has is a deadbeat father (again) and some pretty bad self-esteem issues. Hitler did too many great things for the planet that overwhelmed the damage he caused during the war to have even come close to having his spirit wiped; all /pol/ aside, he was a great leader.

Cool. It's sad how many lies there are out there. truly his loss in the end was the greatest victory because his message didn't stop reaching everyone

>Yeah, it's better to just have you run the questions through your head so you can develop your own ideas. You're capable of finding the answer yourself.

I know that sometimes that's the case but I ask because I like to hear what wise people have to say too.

>I don't think I'm supposed to find peace anymore; my spirit has the responsibility of bringing it about, but I honestly just hope that after I do I'm fulfilled with it. I sometimes worry that things will never feel like enough in this life as a way for the physical realm to constantly strive forward; somebody has to do it.

Don't worry anon, I know how you feel. It's like this endless loop of despair and waiting for never to come. Remember time is not a constant, it's a thresh-hold. never, neverland, eternity, it's forever over there, but for us it feels like it takes "time" that feeling of waiting to get there. It's just where we are that feels "timey" and it sucks because it feels like waiting forever, even though we're not in the real good "forever" yet. It's coming. Don't worry.

>Not quite, when you're metaphysical you are everything; vision, taste, feeling, sound, scent; it's not so black and white.

So it's like the most fun and comfiest case ever of synesthesia? if there is senses, then there are things to sense with them?

>There's no point in building heaven when you practically become heaven.

please tell me more about this

>Let's take for example a person who's betrayed their—This is just an example of the method of critical thinking you'd need to take in order to come to an ethical decision.

I got totally confused here sorry anon.

>>38388

>never knew I could do that until you showed me

>Hahaha, that's a common case in regards to qigong. I wish these abilities weren't kept from us.

Yea, I fully understand why the evil beings would seek to hide this knowledge from those who are good, but I also feel almost kind of reluctant to randomly teach anyone I meet these things as well, not out of fear that I will be accused of being crazy by a really really normal person but because I almost feel like many low level people who somehow stumble into the discovery of how to use these things even from a really low level where they haven't advanced or aren't ready yet might just be severely ignorant and abuse these abilities in really hilarious ways that cause chaos, like some kind of crazy comedy/fantasy/scifi movie. but also, who am I to say if they are ready or not yet? It's really dangerous, but I feel like if I choose carefully (I'm still learning anyway so I'm not going to just jump into teaching) maybe the other side will help keep things in balance. I also find that I have had many bad experiences in life with trying to teach others good things, because they take it for granted or don't value or care about what I can teach them, and I have also run into many bad teachers who just wanted my money and respect without giving me anything in return or allowing harm to come to me. so the areas/people that I can teach and learn from are very narrow and limited from my current perspective. It's really a great thing that I met you. thank you.

>Whatever questions you have or whatever directions you hope to advance in, I'm willing to help guide you, but eventually you'll come to a point where you can understand how to guide yourself. I'm just here to teach you how to get to that level.

Thanks anon you're a good teacher and I'm blessed by the other side to have found or have been found by you. I have some questions (I'll list at the end to make it easier to read)

>There should never be a limit on development.

very wise words. I always say to myself that I'm always learning and that the smartest people always know that they truly know nothing as a figure of speech.

>#1. how do you cleanse people's spirits/aura and see them from far away like what you did for me and that other anon?

>#2. how do you see people's spirit animal and see visions about them? "blue pool table"?

>>38388

>Practically all you need to do is sit upright, close your eyes (helps concentration), take full breaths (fill your diaphragm), use both of your hands to form a ball of metaphysical energy (follow your intuition, it's sort of indescribable); you should start to feel heat in your hands - don't exactly search for the heat because you need to relax your mind - trusting yourself is key in this exercise. Once you start practicing, eventually you'll begin to get a pretty bad headache; that's just the other side working on you to increase your abilities. While other side is working on you, try hold out as long as you can but when it becomes too much, practically just scream: "STOP!" In your head and the pain will slowly wear off; a lot of the other side haven't had physical lives before so they don't quite understand pain - but you also need to make sure they don't go on too long otherwise you might damage your DNA.

>1. Get in a comfortable position.

>2. Relax your mind.

>3. Take full breaths, filling your diaphragm.

>4. Hold your hands up an shape them as if you're carrying something.

>5. Explicitly intend in your mind to create a chiball ("I want to create a chiball"), and start moving your hands in whatever way feels natural to grow the chiball.

Okay so remember what happened when I made the chiball? I felt that it was complete, like finished and done being formed, It had a distinct feeling of "It's ready!" and then all on its own it floated up and went ZOOM to you.

>#3. do chiballs usually decide they want to go somewhere flying (they just know where to go without having to tell them?)

>#4. if a chiball is "ready" how do I keep practicing long enough to get a headache? I'm not trying to actually get a headache, but it would feel wrong to hold the chiball and say "no don't go I'm not done with you" because if it's ready and knows where to go, I would be kind of mean to not let it do that right? I feel like the chiball is like energy and will and intent from the good other side. do I keep making chiballs over and over again until I get a headache? or am I supposed to actually keep trying to grow the same one even after it's ready?

>#5. I hear lots of people on /fringe/ talking about using energy to reshape themselves. I don't want to be a shallow jerk but I'm guessing this might be useful for just trying to improve the physical body while I'm here, so maybe I might as well do some improvement while I'm here to make things go smoother and healthier. I already do some yoga (exercise not the religious side of yoga) and similar workouts and eat healthy but I'm curious if I can make chiballs for the purpose of changing myself for the better.

>>38388

I'm not the type to use steroids so I don't want to do anything abusive in any way, and I don't know if it's insulting or rude to use chiballs for something that could be perceived as shallow. I notice that my energy changes a lot day to day and when I have really good energy, my body reflects that and I look very different and I heal faster and generally feel much better than usual when this happens. when my energy gets bad it actually feels disgusting and I look horrible. I take this as a reflection of my current spiritual health, or something similar. (I know the soul can't actually get hurt or sick, but it can feel sad/bad) Can I make chiballs to help my good energy and soul get stronger so that I'm always/more often in "good energy mode" and as a side effect also feel and look and actually be better physically? besides making changes and improvements, can I possibly heal/work out some minor defects in my physicality?

Can I try to shape shift so that my body is better representative of what my spirit means to be? Is it possible to change any part of your body in any way using energy? I don't like using the word possible because I know nothing is impossible, but use it just as a way of speaking. I'm not implying anything silly as odd as this question may seem, but I don't know any other way to ask it without it sounding really really silly. I want to know this because I do genuinely want to try to improve myself a little but I really want to emphasize that I don't want to abuse it because things like that always feel wrong in the end. I know that this is also dangerous for some people because it may possibly lead to major ego problems if someone were to improve themselves and then become severely self-absorbed and go insane thinking they are better than everyone else. I definitely want to avoid the ego problems so I would approach this very carefully if you would be willing to teach me.

I'm thinking that in some ways, even though physical doesn't actually control the "beyond" it's really the "beyond" that controls the physical, I notice that when I experience (rarely) good things in the physical, that experience itself is nourishing for my soul in the "beyond". I know that this is just a very complicated feedback loop as a result of the "beyond" making it all happen in the first place, so I guess I just want to get better at accepting that good thing that happens, even if it's so complicated.

>>38388

>#6. I had better success creating a chiball by forming it without using my hands by focusing on it and forming it naturally like it just came together by itself while I guided it instead of pushing it together with my hands. what are your thoughts on this?

>#7. can you make chiballs for anything? do you just give them different intentions and they just do what you intended and go where you intended because they are pure energy?

>#8. lots of mini questions:

>can you make chiballs that stay floating with you and do certain tasks? like a chiball that stays with you all day long, or all week, or all year, or until a certain task is complete, or for the rest of your life, or even stays with you forever or however long you like?

>Can you send a chiball out to do something important and then tell it to come back with information or something else?

>can they float around you like little security guards and protect you or alert you to danger?

>can you keep them floating around you as a cloaking field when you're in danger from some bad people chasing you?

>can you create a bunch of them to float around you like turrets that shoot happy feel good love lasers at everyone you walk past automatically?

>can you create chiballs that create other chiballs and assign them tasks automatically?

>can you create doctor chiballs that fly around and heal people?

>can you create chiballs that float around the environment and gather small amounts of nutrients and vitamins and minerals from plants without hurting them and then float back and nourish you so you don't starve to death? what if there's only dirt around? can they get nutrients from that and transform them for human consumption?

>If you can create chiballs that go get you food, but there's no food, can you make chiballs that help you get energy? how do you get to the point that you can still eat if you like, but you don't actually need food anymore because you just drink energy (without being a vampire that hurts people/things) from "beyond" and basically get sustained by "the force"?

>can you form a shield with them and protect yourself from radiation?

If yes, how do you do these things?

>>38388

>#9. are chiballs alive? do they get sad? do they miss you? or am I just being silly? I thought It would be safer to ask than to not ask.

>#10. I had this intense picture pop into my mind of forming multiple very small chiballs that were floating all around me and then they started to cover me like soap bubbles until I was covered in them. I felt cleansed but it also made me think of other questions. what did this mean? can I form energy in any shape and not just chiballs? or are chiballs just simply the best shape for energy and most other things? I mean there are many things that take the shape of balls

>actual balls (guys)

>ovaries

>some fruit

>some nuts

>planets

>moons

>the butt

>breasts

>stars

>cells in the body

>eyeballs

>third eye

>smooth river stones

>those mysterious snowballs that form in nature sometimes

>water molecules

can I form multiple chiballs at the same time and intend for them to all have different things to do for different reasons or all help each other do something with teamwork?

>#11. can I make things out of chiballs? like form a stone from energy? (I don't care about money so I'm just talking like a rock here) can I create life from energy or is that a very big No-No like in a lot of movies?

>#12. can I make chiballs to help me heal fast and healthy? I'm always getting cuts and scrapes and they heal way way slow even though I eat very healthy.

I don't mean to be a pain or anything but would you kindly try to help me figure out why I heal so slowly by checking me with your spirit viewing….. thing?? ( what's it called? )

>>38388

>#13. can I move things with my mind with chiballs? like the force? I doubt that there are many ways I would actually end up doing this because people would freak and I would get too much attention.

>in a store

>need shopping cart

>*PULLLL*

>shopping cart rolls over to me

>"WITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HUNT THE WITCH!!!!!/warlock" haha

so I really doubt there would be anything I would be willing to actually do in public, but I feel like it could help me do yoga better or improve my balance somehow like doing handstands and onehanded handstands, remember that scene where luke is upside down and the rocks are floating and he's meditating through the whole experience? I feel like that would be really helpful in improving myself. It would probably be very good for stress and anxiety management too.

>#14. can you make chiballs to help you heal "very old wounds" not just physical, but everything else too?

>#15. do different color chiballs mean different things? do all the colors mean the same thing for different people, or do different colors all mean very different things for everyone?

>#16. can you make an invisible "robot" out of a bunch of interconnected chiballs that works like your backup buddy or helps you do things? can you make them conscious, or is this a very bad no-no? can you assign the control of the chiball-bot to the "beyond" so the other side can control the chiball-bot and follow you around and help you or is this really pointless and redundant because the other side already controls everything and doesn't need that? what are some good possible uses/ideas to do good with this if it's okay or doable?

I just wanted to really let my mind flow here and ask as many random related questions that popped into my head.

If I'm going about this the wrong way and not thinking clearly, please let me know. I don't want to go down a path that is clearly wrong just because of a mistake in perception and judgement.

>>38394

>his message didn't stop reaching everyone

Ethics and ideological principles will always trump lies and deceit in the future; failure that comes from dishonesty and destruction is only temporary, and a necessary step in order to develop an understanding of what is unethical, as well as what ideas are good enough to still prevail even after they have been formerly destroyed. Even with Communism (an ideology I despise) still exists primarily because many oppose the abuse of power in our current civilisation, but feel a need to follow dogma which will inevitably become dogmatic. The ideas behind dogma are the only things that should be spoken about, not the dogma itself or the leaders behind it.

>>38394

>if there is senses, then there are things to sense with them?

ye

>>38394

>please tell me more about this

The idea of heaven is just being on the other side; a state of pure metaphysical being, and being on the other side isn't so much being in a different location, but more so in the idea that you're in another state of being. If you are in a state of being that is the equivalent of heaven, you are being a part of it.

>I got totally confused here sorry anon.

That's alright, it's not too important.

>>38395

>where they haven't advanced or aren't ready yet

The knowledge income would be like having a bad trip on a psychedelic I'm guessing, but for a low-level spirit to have even reached the point where they'd naturally access the information is rather uncommon because of classic skepticism.

>abuse these abilities in really hilarious ways that cause chaos

A lot of the time, the other side will block negative abilities, and once Ghandi's reincarnate is out of body again, there will be much more stability in the universe for the better.

>so the areas/people that I can teach and learn from are very narrow and limited

They'll expand when the time comes, don't worry about it too much; it's good to have faith in the other side to guide things in the right direction, but complete reliance or blind faith from them is uncanny and dangerous because a lot of the metaphysical spirits haven't even been in body before.

>the smartest people always know that they truly know nothing

I agree, knowing infinity is a nearly impossible feat.

>how do you cleanse people's spirits/aura and see them from far away like what you did for me and that other anon?

I practically just get into a metaphysical state via qigong then intend to do it, trusting myself that it's possible for me to do so. The two things you need to do anything with qigong is;

1. Self-trust.

2. Intent.

>#2. how do you see people's spirit animal and see visions about them? "blue pool table"?

It's more of a feeling; sometimes distinct visuals just pop up randomly as prompts to understand the information you're receiving. The process of understanding is much faster in the meta.

>>38396

>#3. do chiballs usually decide they want to go somewhere flying (they just know where to go without having to tell them?)

It was you who knew where you wanted the chiball to go, you just didn't consciously decide on it yet - your practice and development with qigong is very closely tied to me as your teacher, so I suppose that's how you would've subconsciously known what to do with it next.

>#4. if a chiball is "ready" how do I keep practicing long enough to get a headache?

Meta puberty sort of just comes randomly; it took a month for it to happen to my friend, but only two days for it to happen to me. It's extremely varied; whenever other side wants you to learn.

>I would be kind of mean to not let it do that right? I feel like the chiball is like energy and will and intent from the good other side.

I wouldn't say that it's mean to do that, but it's good to trust your intuition when using meta so for whatever reason you felt that way was necessary enough for your development in the area.

>do I keep making chiballs over and over again until I get a headache? or am I supposed to actually keep trying to grow the same one even after it's ready?

You can make it as large as you want, or as many as you want, you're even able to eventually use the energy in other ways (streams, beams, etc.); chiballs are just good to start on so you understand what energy is supposed to feel like.

>#5. I hear lots of people on /fringe/ talking about using energy to reshape themselves. I don't want to be a shallow jerk but I'm guessing this might be useful for just trying to improve the physical body while I'm here, so maybe I might as well do some improvement while I'm here to make things go smoother and healthier. I already do some yoga (exercise not the religious side of yoga) and similar workouts and eat healthy but I'm curious if I can make chiballs for the purpose of changing myself for the better.

Ever since doing qigong, my body has seemed to become a lot healthier; same with everybody I know that does it.

>>38397

>I don't know if it's insulting or rude to use chiballs for something that could be perceived as shallow

You'll get a feeling or message from the other side if you're not using qigong in the right way.

>I definitely want to avoid the ego problems so I would approach this very carefully if you would be willing to teach me

I can teach you, I think the best way to go about it is to have this constant back-and-forth like we're doing in this thread. Asking questions and letting me know what advancements you've made metaphysically because it seems to be working pretty well so far.

>Can I make chiballs to help my good energy and soul get stronger so that I'm always/more often in "good energy mode" and as a side effect also feel and look and actually be better physically? besides making changes and improvements, can I possibly heal/work out some minor defects in my physicality?

It's seemed so from my experience; even when I overindulge for an entire day my body seems to stay at the same weight which was not always the case. Having better energy will also turn you off junk food and other degenerate indulgences; it's the solution and key to improving your live in multiple ways.

>>38398

>>#6. I had better success creating a chiball by forming it without using my hands by focusing on it and forming it naturally like it just came together by itself while I guided it instead of pushing it together with my hands. what are your thoughts on this?

I think it would be because you're using less of your physical body to do metaphysical activities. The less physical movement or contact you do, the better metaphysical interaction you're able to achieve.

>>#7. can you make chiballs for anything? do you just give them different intentions and they just do what you intended and go where you intended because they are pure energy?

You can make chiballs for pretty much anything, and if you can't you'll understand the reason why whenever you try it because the other side should come to you about it. You do just give them pure intention because they're pure energy; you're spot on there.

>>#8. lots of mini questions:

>can you make chiballs that stay floating with you and do certain tasks? like a chiball that stays with you all day long, or all week, or all year, or until a certain task is complete, or for the rest of your life, or even stays with you forever or however long you like?

You can make a temporary chiball stick around you and others, but it's not possible to do one for infinity, and the longer time you'll want it to last will require a longer period of qigong and more concentration and effort. You'll know when it's done because it'll feel ready the same way your last chiball did.

>Can you send a chiball out to do something important and then tell it to come back with information or something else?

The information you're looking for will come immediately, and the further you feel into the information you intend to understand, the more complex the information will become.

>can they float around you like little security guards and protect you or alert you to danger?

>can you keep them floating around you as a cloaking field when you're in danger from some bad people chasing you?

>can you create a bunch of them to float around you like turrets that shoot happy feel good love lasers at everyone you walk past automatically?

Yes.

>can you create chiballs that create other chiballs and assign them tasks automatically?

Yes, but you'll need to have a higher power level which comes through practice.

>can you create doctor chiballs that fly around and heal people?

Yes, but it's better for you to practice the healing yourself.

>can you create chiballs that float around the environment and gather small amounts of nutrients and vitamins and minerals from plants without hurting them and then float back and nourish you so you don't starve to death? what if there's only dirt around?

>If you can create chiballs that go get you food, but there's no food, can you make chiballs that help you get energy? how do you get to the point that you can still eat if you like, but you don't actually need food anymore because you just drink energy (without being a vampire that hurts people/things) from "beyond" and basically get sustained by "the force"?

You can absorb life energy, but you'd need to spend practically all of your time outside; there's a practice where you live off the sun, but my friend knows more about it and I've asked her to summarise: "sungazing

looking at the sun for 30 seconds a day

cant remember how it works

energy build up in ur system

basically

30 seconds for like 40 days i think then stop

sunrise and sunset best times

but can do it in day if u do a thing w ur hands

cant remember what it is tho"

>can you form a shield with them and protect yourself from radiation?

Only minor amounts of radiation, even with the person with the highest power-level in this universe. Radiation is an extremely strong entity that would only be able to be shielded from after a lot of power development.

>If yes, how do you do these things?

Intent and trusting yourself to perform the said abilities.

>>38399

>#9. are chiballs alive? do they get sad? do they miss you? or am I just being silly? I thought It would be safer to ask than to not ask.

Yes, everything's alive; even corpses are alive in a sense. Everything's made of energy which only exists purely through activity.

>>#10. I had this intense picture pop into my mind of forming multiple very small chiballs that were floating all around me and then they started to cover me like soap bubbles until I was covered in them. I felt cleansed but it also made me think of other questions. what did this mean? can I form energy in any shape and not just chiballs? or are chiballs just simply the best shape for energy and most other things? I mean there are many things that take the shape of balls

Sounds like purifying energy. You can form your energy into any shape through intention. Ball form is just the easiest one to grasp.

>can I form multiple chiballs at the same time and intend for them to all have different things to do for different reasons or all help each other do something with teamwork?

ye

>>#11. can I make things out of chiballs? like form a stone from energy? (I don't care about money so I'm just talking like a rock here) can I create life from energy or is that a very big No-No like in a lot of movies?

I haven't heard of a case of that happening before, but I know one of the technologies kept from us are replicators which can form any material object out of plasma.

>#12. can I make chiballs to help me heal fast and healthy? I'm always getting cuts and scrapes and they heal way way slow even though I eat very healthy.

Qigong can heal physical inflictions; I had a sinus infection and because of qigong, it's nearly been healed and it's only been four days. I don't take medicine and aim to become purely self-reliant on my metaphysical abilities.

>would you kindly try to help me figure out why I heal so slowly

Apparently you've got a weak immune system (according to the other side), they're suggesting to stop taking medicine and instead eat healthy, raw, organic foods. Homeopathy's pretty good as well. There are some inflictions and sicknesses that are too strong or develop too quickly for us to heal purely metaphysically, so don't completely boycott doctors and medicine; just don't take it as gospel or rely on their ideas purely. After all, to them all you are is an opportunity to make money, and many of them are paid to advertise pharmaceuticals which - when developed in a capitalist society - aren't focused on quality and instead quantity.

>>38400

>#13. can I move things with my mind with chiballs? like the force? I doubt that there are many ways I would actually end up doing this because people would freak and I would get too much attention.

That's what I've been trying to develop my abilities to do; we won't be able to use telekenesis in our current era of human bodies, but intending to access that ability will eventually result in a future adaptation for future generations. The closest I can get is slightly lifting my arms using only intention in my mind, it's pretty difficult to do and requires a lot of concentration, as well as for you to be in a location with a high vibration. I first found the ability to do it at a Portugal. The Man concert because I was like: "Hmm… I wonder…". It's really hard for me to even lift them at all in my bedroom which is rather low vibration. Qigong is the closest thing to the force.

>>#14. can you make chiballs to help you heal "very old wounds" not just physical, but everything else too?

Most likely, but it depends on what you mean by "very old wounds".

>#15. do different color chiballs mean different things? do all the colors mean the same thing for different people, or do different colors all mean very different things for everyone?

Yes, they're most often connected with the colours that are associated with chakras.

>>#16. can you make an invisible "robot" out of a bunch of interconnected chiballs that works like your backup buddy or helps you do things? can you make them conscious, or is this a very bad no-no? can you assign the control of the chiball-bot to the "beyond" so the other side can control the chiball-bot and follow you around and help you or is this really pointless and redundant because the other side already controls everything and doesn't need that? what are some good possible uses/ideas to do good with this if it's okay or doable?

I've created universes before so I can imagine this concept would be extremely similar, and the methodology (of intention and self trust if you hadn't already guessed) would be nearly identical.

>>38419

You're going along with the correct mentality it really well.

>>38428

>Ethics and ideological principles will always trump lies and deceit in the future; failure that comes from dishonesty and destruction is only temporary, and a necessary step in order to develop an understanding of what is unethical, as well as what ideas are good enough to still prevail even after they have been formerly destroyed. Even with Communism (an ideology I despise) still exists primarily because many oppose the abuse of power in our current civilisation, but feel a need to follow dogma which will inevitably become dogmatic. The ideas behind dogma are the only things that should be spoken about, not the dogma itself or the leaders behind it.

very interesting. when I think about communism (even though hitler was "the first bro" RIP TAY) there's lots of examples where it works on a very small community-like scale but only if everyone really trusts each other and likes each other alot and have many similar compatible ideas. otherwise from small scale I would imagine it would only work large scale in some post-scarcity future utopia society (which I have the strangest feeling is never going to happen) where everyone already has unlimited resources and nothing to worry about. alot of idiologies are great for dreaming about "if only it was perfect like this" but hitler type stuff is well suited to building a society that functions and survives long-term in this hell-reality as we know it. I like how hitler's secret unknown message was more supportive of diversity than any globalist cow plop today (which will destroy diversity by just mixing everyone up until everyone is the same) hitler was basically like "every culture,

race religion in the world should strive to be the best they can be" basically take care of and love your own people first, then help everyone else. put on your oxygen mask before helping the person next to you. lots of people don't realize that if the main helpers aren't stable first themselves, there will be nobody left to help anybody else in the long-term. really interesting stuff. I like how alot of people are waking up and starting to just be honest about hitler and realize what his true message was, and that it wasn't about hate, and how the only death camps were the ones in soviet russian territory, and how most of the camps had a pool and a soccer field and hospital like a summer camp. (gotta let the people you're exterminating play games and go to the hospital to feel better before you gas them! pffff yea right!) meanwhile the camps got bombed by the allies and everyone starved because they cut off the supply lines and everyone got sick and died, so it was somehow hitlers fault. "worst evil guy in history who did it all for no reason" "but why teacher" "HE JUST DID NOW GIVE ME 200 GLOBALIST PUSHUPS" haha

>>38428

>The idea of heaven is just being on the other side; a state of pure metaphysical being, and being on the other side isn't so much being in a different location, but more so in the idea that you're in another state of being. If you are in a state of being that is the equivalent of heaven, you are being a part of it.

I hope it's got fun things to do and good friends to make. I hope that heaven becomes a perfect reality for those in it.

>The knowledge income would be like having a bad trip on a psychedelic I'm guessing, but for a low-level spirit to have even reached the point where they'd naturally access the information is rather uncommon because of classic skepticism.

"SURE BRO" I know right?

>I agree, knowing infinity is a nearly impossible feat.

Yea it's really overwhelming then it's calming.

>how do you cleanse people's spirits/aura and see them from far away like what you did for me and that other anon?

>I practically just get into a metaphysical state via qigong then intend to do it, trusting myself that it's possible for me to do so. The two things you need to do anything with qigong is;

>1. Self-trust.

>2. Intent.

>>38428

>#3. do chiballs usually decide they want to go somewhere flying (they just know where to go without having to tell them?)

>It was you who knew where you wanted the chiball to go, you just didn't consciously decide on it yet - your practice and development with qigong is very closely tied to me as your teacher, so I suppose that's how you would've subconsciously known what to do with it next.

that's kind of funny actually. maybe I was saying "how's this? this okay? how did I do?" without realizing.

>#4. if a chiball is "ready" how do I keep practicing long enough to get a headache?

>Meta puberty sort of just comes randomly; it took a month for it to happen to my friend, but only two days for it to happen to me. It's extremely varied; whenever other side wants you to learn.

is it possible I've already been through it and just don't know it? I've had pretty awful headaches before.

>do I keep making chiballs over and over again until I get a headache? or am I supposed to actually keep trying to grow the same one even after it's ready?

>You can make it as large as you want, or as many as you want, you're even able to eventually use the energy in other ways (streams, beams, etc.); chiballs are just good to start on so you understand what energy is supposed to feel like.

so any shape or changing shape or flowing "thing" solid or not in shape is okay? can I make chi armor?

>>38428

>Ever since doing qigong, my body has seemed to become a lot healthier; same with everybody I know that does it.

can you specifically change yourself into being more like what you want to be like? like grow into being a better version of yourself? how do you promote this or help it along? I give this as a funny example because I can't of anything more specific in order to get a kind of sort of specific answer, and the example I give is silly enough but it works, it's just what pops into my head.

>there is a grill

>she wants a bigger ass

>*uses chiballs and qigong on her ass*

>ass gets bigger

>but then she turns into a stuck up egomaniac and only listens to mainstream pop music full of celebrities

tip top David Icke right? I mean, technically speaking can that be done? (I swear I saw a thread once on /fringe/ created by someone from /cuteboys/ who was trying to use "transforming energy" or something to change into a "trap". I know nothing is impossible, but really though- can they do that? If so, how can these examples be done? from a woman who wants a bigger ass to someone who wants to be a trap or some dudebro gym bro weight lifter who wants to become more like the hulk or something, do the same transforming principles/technical how-do's all function similarly enough that if you know how to do one thing one way, that you know how to do the other things another way?

I wont lie, I do want to make some upgrades generally speaking and learn about the knowledge of how to do this, but I'm not going to let myself become obessesed over it and fool myself into believing that this is of the highest importance on my spiritual journey. I'm just a soul and my body is a car, I'm just thinking to fix up the paint job a little and have a little bit nicer ride in the meanwhile. I mean, I don't mean to pressure you. I just really really want to know about this as an innocent side-project type of thing. I promise I wont let you down, and I wont let myself down by lying to myself that I wouldn't let you down. I won't let it take over my life by becoming some shallow asshat. I really really want to know though

>>38428

>You'll get a feeling or message from the other side if you're not using qigong in the right way.

Oh okay.

>I can teach you, I think the best way to go about it is to have this constant back-and-forth like we're doing in this thread. Asking questions and letting me know what advancements you've made metaphysically because it seems to be working pretty well so far.

I don't mind writing and replying long questions and answers if you don't. I don't want to be a nuisance towards you. I'm fairly used to writing long posts and threads and replies so if you're comfortable with it then I am too. I'll be honest, sometimes I'm just like *siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh* and take a break but I have been feeling good thanks to the chiball training you taught me. It just feels good. thanks qigong anon.

>>38428

>It's seemed so from my experience; even when I overindulge for an entire day my body seems to stay at the same weight which was not always the case. Having better energy will also turn you off junk food and other degenerate indulgences; it's the solution and key to improving your live in multiple ways.

I have felt that before, even before talking to you about qigong. you can just feel when things are right, it feels like this good sense of "clean good right safe(r)"

>I think it would be because you're using less of your physical body to do metaphysical activities. The less physical movement or contact you do, the better metaphysical interaction you're able to achieve.

Yea… It was like I wasn't using my hands to form it, it was like I was using no hands, or thousands of hands at the same time working together.

>>#7. can you make chiballs for anything? do you just give them different intentions and they just do what you intended and go where you intended because they are pure energy?

You can make chiballs for pretty much anything, and if you can't you'll understand the reason why whenever you try it because the other side should come to you about it. You do just give them pure intention because they're pure energy; you're spot on there.

>can they float around you like little security guards and protect you or alert you to danger?

>can you keep them floating around you as a cloaking field when you're in danger from some bad people chasing you?

>can you create a bunch of them to float around you like turrets that shoot happy feel good love lasers at everyone you walk past automatically?

just good intent and focus and trust right? no special ways of doing this?

>Yes, but it's better for you to practice the healing yourself.

healing my own wounds, or healing others with chiballs? like practice myself or practice myself on others who need it?

>>38428

Isn't sun gazing risky? I heard alot about that before, lots of videos. some people say it's safe but some people say that even if you look at the sun when it's really low you can still get eye damage or something. can you just absorb/ask the other side for good energy and survive based off of that alone? I understand this is a really touchy topic because alot of people out there try to become romanticized ideas of vampire and try to be energy vampires on people. I'm sure the other side messes them up eventually but I heard they get away with it for a while or trick people into giving them permission so the other side is slightly less angry with them but still it's total BS and they get in trouble. I want to be clear that I don't want to take anything from anyone. I just want to learn how to absorb good energy with permission from the other side because I feel like I'm leaning more towards natural and organic heaven energy than my usual diet. typical human food (not eating people, I mean like people-food) is feeding me less and less and I can't get everything I need from it anymore. I'm sort of starving slowly and trying to learn how to make the shift to pure green renewable natural organic energy sooner rather than just only later. I hope you understand. I'm kind of desperate about this.

>Only minor amounts of radiation, even with the person with the highest power-level in this universe. Radiation is an extremely strong entity that would only be able to be shielded from after a lot of power development.

radiation is an entity? like a living thing…?

>Intent and trusting yourself to perform the said abilities.

gotcha.

>#9. are chiballs alive? do they get sad? do they miss you? or am I just being silly? I thought It would be safer to ask than to not ask.

>Yes, everything's alive; even corpses are alive in a sense. Everything's made of energy which only exists purely through activity.

whoa..

>Sounds like purifying energy. You can form your energy into any shape through intention. Ball form is just the easiest one to grasp.

hahaha "ball form is just the easiest to grasp" yes balls are easy to grasp. I'm sorry I had to joke about this, I hope you found it funny too. I find a little humor is always good for learning

>>38428

>I haven't heard of a case of that happening before, but I know one of the technologies kept from us are replicators which can form any material object out of plasma.

whoa it's like star trek or like those healing beds from elysium.

>replicate 9000 hot dogs

>now have to replicate a bunch of cats to eat them all

absolutely garbage old internet meme, I'm SO sorry. haha

>#12. can I make chiballs to help me heal fast and healthy? I'm always getting cuts and scrapes and they heal way way slow even though I eat very healthy.

>Qigong can heal physical inflictions; I had a sinus infection and because of qigong, it's nearly been healed and it's only been four days. I don't take medicine and aim to become purely self-reliant on my metaphysical abilities.

Me too. I hope to reach that point where I'm much more self reliant because I think the less someone has to pack with them on a journey, the more enlightened they usually are.

>Apparently you've got a weak immune system (according to the other side), they're suggesting to stop taking medicine and instead eat healthy, raw, organic foods. Homeopathy's pretty good as well. There are some inflictions and sicknesses that are too strong or develop too quickly for us to heal purely metaphysically, so don't completely boycott doctors and medicine; just don't take it as gospel or rely on their ideas purely. After all, to them all you are is an opportunity to make money, and many of them are paid to advertise pharmaceuticals which - when developed in a capitalist society - aren't focused on quality and instead quantity.

Yea you're right. I have been trying and doing a good job with it when it comes to eating healthy.I kind of feel like maybe my physical body might be falling apart. I'm fairly healthy in general but there are hints everywhere that I'm becoming more energy based. my physical body is weak and is getting damaged very easily and very often from smaller and smaller things. a piece of bread crust cut my hand a little. I'm on my way out but I don't think just about yet exactly. I still have a little more to learn so I need to get stronger and improve what I have physically while I'm here because I think it's going to get worse if I don't do something about it. I guess I'm just asking in case you know about this.

>>38428

>#13. can I move things with my mind with chiballs? like the force? I doubt that there are many ways I would actually end up doing this because people would freak and I would get too much attention.

>Qigong is the closest thing to the force.

Quoi-Gon-Jin qigong jing!

>>#14. can you make chiballs to help you heal "very old wounds" not just physical, but everything else too?

>Most likely, but it depends on what you mean by "very old wounds".

like I said I know the soul can't actually get hurt, but it can feel pain. can I heal phsycial, mental, and spiritual wounds and old ones too? is there a good way to do this in addition to and including trust and intent?

>#15. do different color chiballs mean different things? do all the colors mean the same thing for different people, or do different colors all mean very different things for everyone?

>Yes, they're most often connected with the colours that are associated with chakras.

Can you teach me about the chakras? everyone I ever asked before only wanted to sell me something and I never got to understand what the chakras are all about what what they mean and why they represent what they represent. I always got confused and asked "why do the different parts of the body have specifically assigned chakras, and why aren't there more than those?" why does it seem so limiting? also, is every charka point an infinite chiball that doesn't go away unless you pass on to the other side? can you make more chakra points? I heard alot of people said recently that chakras and karma stopped existing because there was a huge event that stopped or happened and changed the rules somehow and that wasn't needed or important anymore for some reason but I didn't understand what they meant by that. I'm just completely lost when it comes to the whole chakra conversation and I have only ever been exposed to very misleading and deceptive people about this subject so I'm that lost about it. very confused I am.

>>38428

>>#16. can you make an invisible "robot" out of a bunch of interconnected chiballs that works like your backup buddy or helps you do things? can you make them conscious, or is this a very bad no-no? can you assign the control of the chiball-bot to the "beyond" so the other side can control the chiball-bot and follow you around and help you or is this really pointless and redundant because the other side already controls everything and doesn't need that? what are some good possible uses/ideas to do good with this if it's okay or doable?

>I've created universes before so I can imagine this concept would be extremely similar, and the methodology (of intention and self trust if you hadn't already guessed) would be nearly identical.

That's probably really personal so I want you to be aware I'm not asking specifics on this (the private things about it) but rather all the other specifics in general as silly as that may seem.

you created universes???? what was that like? why did you do it? how did it turn out? did any of them end? did everyone die? was it sad? were they okay? did they know who you were? did they know they were there and that you put them there? what did you learn from it? how did you do it? what was the whole point? did you go inside it? how did you go back out? what kind of things happened? did you ever make a universe with everyone being copies of yourself or with the same knowledge as you?

>You're going along with the correct mentality it really well.

I was just concered that by wanting to know the knowledge of how some of these things work that I may unknowngly be acting selfish. not all selfishness is a bad thing (like society would like everyone to believe so they can constantly guilt trip and manipulate each other.)

Sorry for any errors, I may have messed up a few spots looking back now.

>>38433

>it works on a very small community-like scale

Communism is just anarcho-primitivism on a large scale, but anarcho-primitivism only works on a small scale which is where the problems come in.

>HE JUST DID NOW GIVE ME 200 GLOBALIST PUSHUPS

heh

>>38435

>maybe I was saying "how's this? this okay? how did I do?" without realizing.

That's what I figured hahahah.

>is it possible I've already been through it and just don't know it?

If afterwards everything about reality became nearly entirely different, then yeah. But most liekly not because it only really happens once you start doing qigong.

>can I make chi armor?

ye

>>38436

>ass gets bigger

>but then she turns into a stuck up egomaniac and only listens to mainstream pop music full of celebrities

If a girl was growing her ass through qigong, she'd develop a metaphysical thought-process and it would probably not result in that.

>I do want to make some upgrades generally speaking and learn about the knowledge of how to do this

I'll crank up your energy when I get home if I remember; remind me about it in your next post in case I've forgotten. You might recognise the feeling; extremely energetic.

>I won't let it take over my life by becoming some shallow asshat

If anything, this will give you more depth. Don't worry about it too much.

>no special ways of doing this?

Pretty much; it's an extremely simple practice.

>healing my own wounds, or healing others with chiballs?

Healing in general.

>>38439

>trying to learn how to make the shift to pure green renewable natural organic energy

Going raw vegan is the best diet for your energy.

>radiation is an entity? like a living thing…?

I used the wrong choice of words.

>I hope you found it funny too

I did, hahahah.

>>38440

>whoa it's like star trek or like those healing beds from elysium.

heh yeah med-beds are a thing as well.

>I guess I'm just asking in case you know about this.

I've never really heard a case like that before, but I suppose it just makes sense as to why you're interested in meta; you're more meta than physical.

>>38441

>Quoi-Gon-Jin qigong jing!

hahaha fuckin tru tru; never thought about that before.

>is there a good way to do this in addition to and including trust and intent?

You'll learn the specific methodologies on your own usually when you're doing shit like that. The information comes quite naturally and immediately.

>Can you teach me about the chakras?

Crown/scanner: identification and shit like that; golden, yellowish colour.

Pineal: consciousness, awareness, understanding, etc., Dark blue/purplish colour.

Throat: communication, etc., light-blue.

Heart: love, healing, etc., green colour.

Solar Plexus: excitement, inspiration, joy, etc., golden, whitish colour.

Stomach: sexual energy primarily, similar shit like that; orange.

Root: physical shit, primitive impulses, "ooga booga" chakra in my opinion; red. Everybody needs some ooga booga to connect them to what they truly are with all things aside.

>why do the different parts of the body have specifically assigned chakras

Mainly has to do with the energy that comes from those specific parts than the physical traits.

>why does it seem so limiting?

Because they're just physical, concentrated reference points, not purely focused areas.

>is every charka point an infinite chiball that doesn't go away unless you pass on to the other side?

It's not even in ball form purely, that's just what the images show.

>can you make more chakra points?

Yes you can, but not for these bodies.

>I heard alot of people said recently that chakras and karma stopped existing because there was a huge event that stopped or happened and changed the rules somehow

That would've been when the First Creator's (demiurges) were killed by Ghandi's reincarnate in 2012; the ways of the universe stopped being set in stone after that. Karma didn't exist beforehand because people weren't in control of their free will. They were pretty right, but had it backwards mainly. The person who's done that cranked up my energy a while ago; was pretty grateful - intense energy in your cheeks when interacting with him.

>I have only ever been exposed to very misleading and deceptive people about this subject so I'm that lost about it

I know most of it because I'm involved with all types of shit and have pretty on-demand sources, but once you learn to get it yourself it'll be better to just cross-reference with me; that's what I do with my other meta-associates. I lost most of them recently because my mentor thought I was trying to steal his leadership and told everybody to cut off contact with me; whatever though, he's just got some dire ego issues. Otherside were going to have him as an extremely important figure-point in the future of our civilisation but it all went to his head so that privelage was taken away from him; he practically destroyed things from that point on with me diplomatically but like, whatever lmao. Don't become arrogant and you'll be okay.

>>38442

>you created universes???? what was that like?

Yeah, the first one I created was based upon development through intuition; the second was created based upon enlightenment. If other people have created universes based on the same developmental evolution, you will just put your energy in it as well. You become a God of that universe in a sense, but it's not all it's hyped up to be. Our universe was created the same.

>why did you do it?

Wanted to see if I could.

>how did it turn out? did any of them end? did everyone die? was it sad? were they okay?

The enlightenment one is going pretty well; the intuition one is pretty fucked up because everybody is irrational and impulsive. The interactive energy that comes from it is what creates existence though, and existence is always better than non-existence because without non-existence, there is no existence and that's simple enough. Questioning it further doesn't really go anywhere, I've contemplated it before.

>did they know who you were? did they know they were there and that you put them there?

Not sure, I only really interact to see their progress. I might actually go to their universe soon though to see how it is, would be pretty cool.

>did you ever make a universe with everyone being copies of yourself or with the same knowledge as you?

I haven't but that'd be pretty fucking cool. My time's running out so I can't answer most of your universe questions at the moment because I'm - very soon - to leave the computer but I'll answer them later if you'd like if I remember.

>>38479

I'm still this anon. I'm very interested on your opinion of what my spirit is like, if you'd like I'd like to know what you see. If you want to of course.

Hey qigong anon I'm still here (anon who asks all the questions) I'm just really headache-ish. No no no, haven't been over practicing or anything, just have headache. ouch. I'm still here and totally still want to keep talking. sorry I'm taking a bit to respond, I will soon.

>>38481

btw I'm not these anons just fyi.

>>38479

>>38480

>>38471

>HE JUST DID NOW GIVE ME 200 GLOBALIST PUSHUPS

>heh

hehehhe

>maybe I was saying "how's this? this okay? how did I do?" without realizing.

>That's what I figured hahahah.

this is so funny and fun hah

>is it possible I've already been through it and just don't know it?

>If afterwards everything about reality became nearly entirely different, then yeah. But most liekly not because it only really happens once you start doing qigong.

Well.. yea… but maybe I'm just not done changing

>can I make chi armor?

>ye

I know I keep saying how, and I understand focus and intent and believing in yourself and trust is important, but do you have any tips on how to do this correctly?

btw, how do you do chi-super-speed? or chi-slow-down-time? or chi-super strength? or any chi-(insert comic book super power here)?

>If a girl was growing her ass through qigong, she'd develop a metaphysical thought-process and it would probably not result in that.

I'm sorry I don't understand. do you mean she's already growing her ass through qigong and then she develops a metaphysical thought-process after successfully growing it and THEN it somehow retro-actively didn't work backwards in time after it already did work? I'm confused. what do you mean by metaphysical thought-process? on an example basis, how does a girl grow her ass with qigong and energy? can someone grow someone elsses ass? 2 jokey 4 u m8, I have an eccentric sense of humor haha forgive me seriously though, how is this done? like, not for messing with anyone, but for ones-self. I mean on an example basis of course, in the sense that I will help me modify other things by learning the construction and remodeling basics. I'm sure you intuitively know what I mean, no prob. I really need to know how to improve in this way too, spiritual being the most important of course because that is good for everything, but I gotta know this. pleeeaaaaseeee help!

>>38471

>I do want to make some upgrades generally speaking and learn about the knowledge of how to do this

>I'll crank up your energy when I get home if I remember; remind me about it in your next post in case I've forgotten. You might recognise the feeling; extremely energetic.

Was that YOU!? I had a huge headache today but I was full of amazingly high energy even though I was in pain. maybe the energy rush gave me the headache? it felt transformative and healing, not a damaging headache. Can you teach me how to "energy boost" myself and others? I suffer from chronic fatigue/ adrenal fatigue (undiagnosed) sometimes and have had days where I just can't get out of bed (coupled with depression) and I know the energy is there, but I'm just not accessing/tapping into it and using it the right way. this is just amazing, please teach me. if you have the juice life somehow feels less like a moose. I don't know what the ryme meant but it felt good to say it for fun.

>I won't let it take over my life by becoming some shallow asshat

>If anything, this will give you more depth. Don't worry about it too much.

I often notice that many people in society are brainwashed into putting others down and guilt tripping them or trying to make them feel as if they're being selfish for wanting to strive for self improvement or other healthy happy good causes. It's like anything positive is looked down upon and shamed. I do notice a huge shift how this is going away and people are becoming more accepting and honest of/with themselves. I wont feel bad anymore for wanting good things. Thanks for helping open my eyes.

>>38471

>Going raw vegan is the best diet for your energy.

I agree but sometimes I go back into some cooked options but try to stay around mostly 80-95% raw but 100% vegan lately. It's working really nice but I still have horrible crash days with no energy but that's probably a spiritual/energy issue.

>I've never really heard a case like that before, but I suppose it just makes sense as to why you're interested in meta; you're more meta than physical.

I guess. I feel like I'm trapped here/on a mission/ being punished/ going through the experience just because it's something I needed to do/ many other reasons at once. It's like I was never actually meant to be here in the first place, and am out of my natural element. some really surreal "last unicorn" type business, please excuse the not very humble joke/metaphor attempt.

>Quoi-Gon-Jin qigong jing!

>hahaha fuckin tru tru; never thought about that before.

Yea one day it just hit me and I was like, best jedi ever his name is… life just smacks me in the face "HELLOOOO"

>>38471

>is there a good way to do this in addition to and including trust and intent?

>You'll learn the specific methodologies on your own usually when you're doing shit like that. The information comes quite naturally and immediately.

Oh okay. cool. I trust you and simultaneously instantly felt my spirit go like "yes that's true" so deep dude. I feel like the amount of awe I'm constantly in while experiencing this teaching/learning process with your help is doing two things 1. helping me with spiritual growth 2. making me sound like a mj smoking dudebro beach boy "whoooaaa dudeeee radicallll sweettt gnarrllyyy whoaaa mannnnn" I'm running out of reaction words to describe how I feel.

>Can you teach me about the chakras?

>you explained about them

I experienced for the first time ever as a result of you explaining the chakras to me, this really delicious and peaceful comforting and severely serene sensation through full blown synesthesia. I never really understood or associated the chakras to any legit context but I learned thanks to you where their real context is. It's amazing that some references are set in stone in the rules of the universe or in the rules of the soul. there can be something so vague and casual mentioned as a loose reference to something as a simple representation of a concept of an idea that just somehow works so beautifully that it's actually made official as some kind of intentional feedback loop by design of the other side. It's no wonder why it's possible for so many people to understand it while so many people who simply don't get it yet can think of it and their minds scream "LETS SHIFT INTO MAXIMUM OVER-BULLSHIT" until one day they finally understand it.

thank you so much.

>>38471

>I know most of it because I'm involved with all types of shit and have pretty on-demand sources, but once you learn to get it yourself it'll be better to just cross-reference with me; that's what I do with my other meta-associates. I lost most of them recently because my mentor thought I was trying to steal his leadership and told everybody to cut off contact with me; whatever though, he's just got some dire ego issues. Otherside were going to have him as an extremely important figure-point in the future of our civilisation but it all went to his head so that privelage was taken away from him; he practically destroyed things from that point on with me diplomatically but like, whatever lmao. Don't become arrogant and you'll be okay.

wow. I will be honest I have been through so many experiences before (omg im such a badass jk, I'm not trying to be an ego-shitter here) and I have been on both sides of that kind of situation until I really learned how stupid it was and how most of the time it was actually me who caused the whole problem in the first place out of ego-based paranoia and fear of losing that top-dog-ego-douchebag position. (I mean similar, not exact type of situation) I wasn't always as wise as I would like to think I am now. It's been a long long ride. I'm really sorry that happened to you, that really sucks. probably the otherside had plans for you to continue your spiritual journey in a better direction as a surprise de-tour. I absolutely feel like vomiting whenever I even slightly feel myself sliding into the ego-zone so I think and hope that the otherside trained me well in that sense hopefully. It's odd when I notice other people in my life slip into the ego-zone without even knowing what they're doing but I can see into their soul that deep-up they really do know what they're doing but don't know that they know and I can feel the regret and remorse and guilt wash over them, but at the same time I can feel them wondering where it came from and why like they don't understand what's happening yet.

>>38471

>Yeah, the first one I created was based upon development through intuition; the second was created based upon enlightenment. If other people have created universes based on the same developmental evolution, you will just put your energy in it as well. You become a God of that universe in a sense, but it's not all it's hyped up to be. Our universe was created the same.

is it possible that the "god" of one universe could be a person in another universe, but the "god" of that universe is just a person in their universe, controlled by a "god" who is just a person in another universe, but they are actually a person in the universe of the first "god" in this sentance, meaning that it's like a giant circle of everyone trolling the sh*t out of each other? haha

>how did it turn out? did any of them end? did everyone die? was it sad? were they okay?

>The enlightenment one is going pretty well; the intuition one is pretty fucked up because everybody is irrational and impulsive. The interactive energy that comes from it is what creates existence though, and existence is always better than non-existence because without non-existence, there is no existence and that's simple enough. Questioning it further doesn't really go anywhere, I've contemplated it before.

so your spiritual-community-co-owned universes (and possible our own) are probably just a good controlled-chaos-catalyst-engine that keeps reacting with itself into itself and producing infinite experiences like infinite energy until it somehow becomes healthier and more efficient and classy and refined and transcends itself into something giant and beautiful? when does reality unleash the kraken of "everything-become nice" and heaven explodes into existance in a big-bang/reality-orgasm of infinite pleasure and happyness?

do I do good? or am I in need of calming down?

>>38471

>did they know who you were? did they know they were there and that you put them there?

>Not sure, I only really interact to see their progress. I might actually go to their universe soon though to see how it is, would be pretty cool.

I wonder if they have a higher degree of freedom than we do? I wonder if they feel just as trapped. I wonder if they have a good sense of knowin everything is gonna be ok?

>did you ever make a universe with everyone being copies of yourself or with the same knowledge as you?

>I haven't but that'd be pretty fucking cool. My time's running out so I can't answer most of your universe questions at the moment because I'm - very soon - to leave the computer but I'll answer them later if you'd like if I remember.

Sure no problem. I'm a little bit busy too so I'm on and off at moments. If we actually talk so much that this thread 404's from getting overbumped I will create a QIGONG thread with an archive of this one linked in it so we can keep talking there.

>>38493

just came back to say I'm still here. I still check this thread every now and then.

>>38516

also p.s. that energy boost thing made all the hair on my entire body grow really fast. don't know why but I thought I would mention that. I know it's rather weird.

It's qigong-anon, I've been pretty busy but I've quickly skimmed over what your replies are saying before I give a full response, that headache you're talking about sounds like meta-puberty: the other side is boosting your energy, and I went to go crank you up but it feels like you've already been cranked up. I will probably be able to crank you up even more later on though. I'll get back to you when I get the chance, I've been rather preoccupied as of late though. I'll get back to you soon enough.

>>38480

>what my spirit is like

- Rather dark

- Blueish aura, navy tone

- Isolated/isolating

- Cold to the metaphysical touch, but rather warm in other aspects

- Somewhat small, probably because you only would've lived only a couple-hundred lives

- Kind of reminds me of Angelo Lagusa from 91Days I'll admit, that might have to do with the lack of ancestral cord though; can't be too sure

- Spirit animal is lion

That's all I feel I could get from it. Also, to combat the body limit, I'm going to respond to individual posts and sage until the last one to prevent shit-bumping.

>>38487

>do you have any tips on how to do this correctly?

Specifically, what you'd need to do is form a chiball, shape that energy around your body and solidify it there, intending to have it last for however long your abilities will let you.

>chi-super-speed? or chi-slow-down-time?

Time doesn't exist but the closest thing for the to happen would be in an heavy metaphysical meditation, you would be able to do it to the point where it feels like hours/seconds have gone by, but it's only been a few minutes/a few days.

>chi-super strength?

Harness your chi energy to boost your physical strength.

>I'm confused.

When butt-girl learns meta, she won't care about growing her ass anymore.

>can someone grow someone elsses ass?

ye lmao

>how is this done?

You harness the energy and make it pulse through your body.

>>38551

Cheers man. A depressing spiritlet I have. There's a thread on mewch and 8/fringe/ about vampirism/immortality, if you're interested in that. I got myself stuck in that for better or worse. I think I've been manipulating my chi rather than my genes. I've been able to feel my chi (dantien) since I was a kid and my metaphysical senses have been multiplied thanks to the spell.

>>38488

>Can you teach me how to "energy boost" myself and others?

You basically focus on a person's specific chakra points, then fill them with energy and help them grow. You can only crank up somebody's energy to match your level, and there's no point doing it for somebody if they've already been cranked up by somebody of a higher power-level than you. I was cranked up by the most powerful person in this universe, so I use that to grow other's as well; he doesn't have time to crank up everybody so I try help him where I can.

>It's like anything positive is looked down upon and shamed

People are driven by their jealousy, and if they weren't so petty about it they'd be able to use their envy as a guide towards their goals, but instead they just get angry and retarded about it.

>>38489

>but that's probably a spiritual/energy issue.

It's probably also an issue to do with not getting enough physical energy from the diet; while raw vegan is best for your energy, I still don't do it myself.

>>38490

>I'm running out of reaction words to describe how I feel.

Hahaha don't worry about it, I was the exact same basically.

>Chakra reponse

>thank you so much.

It's ok <3

>>38491

>I notice other people in my life slip into the ego-zone without even knowing what they're doing but I can see into their soul that deep-up they really do know what they're doing but don't know that they know and I can feel the regret and remorse and guilt wash over them

I know exactly what you're talking about, I've experienced the same with my current close friends; it happens a lot with physical types.

>>38492

>is it possible that the "god" of one universe could be a person in another universe, but the "god" of that universe is just a person in their universe, controlled by a "god" who is just a person in another universe, but they are actually a person in the universe of the first "god" in this sentance, meaning that it's like a giant circle of everyone trolling the sh*t out of each other?

I have a feeling that might be the case, I've seen visions of that type of structure; constantly growing within itself but externally - I don't think our current level of language can explain the concept yet.

>so your spiritual-community-co-owned universes

Wasn't even the community; it's just a bunch of stranger spirits who had the same ideas in our universe and understanding that such activities are possible.

>probably just a good controlled-chaos-catalyst-engine that keeps reacting with itself into itself and producing infinite experiences like infinite energy until it somehow becomes healthier and more efficient and classy and refined and transcends itself into something giant and beautiful?

That's basically what I've come up with over the months.

>when does reality unleash the kraken of "everything-become nice" and heaven explodes into existance in a big-bang/reality-orgasm of infinite pleasure and happyness?

I don't think it will be a single happening, but more a constant development until even more complex ideas of what there is to strive for after pleasantries and happiness. It's just infinite development for the sake of having the energy react.

>>38493

>I wonder if they have a higher degree of freedom than we do?

There would be so many variables that come from such simple concepts: I believe that whatever positive developments that come from the negatives of their universe's basis would be what they would develop on. For example, our universe was created on abuse which leads to - in the worst possible case - shame. The most fulfilling removal of shame is to become enlightened, but I imagine the universe that is based on enlightenment would have their own negatives, and even higher positives.

>If we actually talk so much that this thread 404's from getting overbumped

It'll probably reach a post-limit, but I imagine the mods don't see this thread as problematic considering it contains a lot of - what I assume would be considered - useful information. This thread is a goldmine for metaphysical understanding.

>>38517

>that energy boost thing made all the hair on my entire body grow really fast

>that energy boost thing made all the hair on my entire body grow really fast

Probably because your energy is more active now.

>>38554

>A depressing spiritlet I have

Can only be expected in our universe hahahah.

>There's a thread on mewch and 8/fringe/

I wish I had the time; I've been too busy lately to even use my low-traffic boards hahaha. This is the only thread I've had the time to come to recently.

>I've been able to feel my chi (dantien) since I was a kid and my metaphysical senses have been multiplied thanks to the spell.

That's going to be really good for your energy and metaphysical development in future lives. You should be able to pick up meta really quickly from now on (if not already).

>>38559

>You should be able to pick up meta really quickly from now on (if not already)

I try to send telepathic messages to them to see what I get. I already give myself headaches when I manipulate my genes with chi so I don't know if they're doing things to me or if I'm just fooling myself.

>future lives

If the spell worked, which it should've since it's highly beneficial for everyone involved for me to be immortal and not have an ancestral cord, I won't be having future lives. Jesus probably removed the ancestral cord of someone and that resulted in his death and 300 years of persecution for his followers. The universe will try to kill me next year but won't be able to. I know that through following "threads of fate" or whatever they are.

I hide this in shame, but can I ask for you to crank up my energy as well?

>>38530

hey no problem thanks anon. I check back now and then. I understand. thank you for your help. I'll be around here checking. been busy too.

>>38558

>is it possible that the "god" of one universe could be a person in another universe, but the "god" of that universe is just a person in their universe, controlled by a "god" who is just a person in another universe, but they are actually a person in the universe of the first "god" in this sentance, meaning that it's like a giant circle of everyone trolling the sh*t out of each other?

<I have a feeling that might be the case, I've seen visions of that type of structure; constantly growing within itself but externally - I don't think our current level of language can explain the concept yet.

btw, I think it would be called "fractal mobius strip dimensional layers"

just so you know anon I've been reading all your replies too okay?

>>38559

btw just fyi qigong anon there's multiple different anons here not just me. just saying to avoid confusion.

>>38560

>I already give myself headaches when I manipulate my genes

It most likely is working, how long does it take for the headaches to start? Only reason it wouldn't work is if the other side are blocking it for some reason.

>I won't be having future lives

Somebody's gotta do it, you're going to learn and develop a lot.

>but can I ask for you to crank up my energy as well?

I started and then didn't finish. I'll do the rest now.

>>38566

>there's multiple different anons here not just me

That's alright, knowledge and learning is pretty fuckin' sick.

>>38599

I can get it going in under a minute. Although the headaches aren't really piercing headaches but feel more like an intense pressure that seeps into every nook and cranny of my skull. I like it. You cranking me up gives me a small headache but it wouldn't be enough for me to notice without you telling me. Thank you for that, I really do appreciate it.

so um, qigong anon… you never actually explained how to upgrade/modify the physical body. I fully understand why this is pointless and meaningless once you get more up there and I am up there (of couse there's always room for improvement so I don't knock good wisdom) but I really actually want to know how to do this anyway, so that I can say to myself "okay, I know how to do this now" and then stop caring so much about it.

>similar example of an experience:

>playing game

>game is so and so between garbage and okay

>kinda fun kinda not fun

>already master the game in the type of play style that fit best for me of the many options

>bored and miserable, don't know what else to do

>discover cheat codes for the game

>use different ones and experiment

>have some fun

>fun fades and instead of desolate boredom I just feel this satisfying sense of completion because now I've done really everything there is to do in that game.

>don't care anymore but it's not a problem

I feel like if I learn how to do some of the things I kind of care about a bit that I can finally just let go of those not-so important things and let everything just naturally be good finally. Please help.

>>38616

>you never actually explained how to upgrade/modify the physical body

Well basically what you'd need to do is put the metaphysical energy that's held in the chiball in your desired muscle to grow, then continue growing it. I have no experience with this ability though because every time I go to do it, the ability is blocked by the otherside because it will damage my DNA. Majority of things you can do follow the same procedure of harnessing your energy and making it do what you want, but unfortunately because of our limiting existence on Earth, plenty of it is blocked to protect our frail DNA.

>>38624

Oh, okay. Makes sense. In that case it's probably safer to just focus on overall good-wellbeing-energy and just naturally experience the otherside naturally upgrade you as naturally as possible (the way the otherside wants to) and just go with the flow. I guess I could just nicely ask the other side or just intend what my feelings are towards certain things and just trust the other side to do what's right. Thanks for being honest about that.

>>38631

>go with the flow

>trust the other side to do what's right

Yeah, the other side have things under control most of the time.

>>38634

thanks for your help. I'm going to try to absorb a bunch more knowledge and wisdom and and organize it and then try to implement everything you taught me in steps in addition to much of the other things I'm trying to learn. If it's okay with you, may I share what I learned from you and create a guide once I practiced some more?

>>38639

I think it's much better for the meta-Others to do what they do. There's a lot of harm to be done when manipulating your own genes, and I also see that you've responded in the thread I've mentioned. Manipulating genes should be done on things that you have absolute control over or have absolute understanding of. Things like height, muscle strength, endurance and to extent hormones are easier to control and are self-stabilizing. Increasing your height will hurt, strength and endurance don't do much other than their intended effect, and hormones can be tricky since the body might convert x into y if there's too much x. Testosterone will become estrogen if you don't have enough androgen receptors, for example.

>>38656

>I think it's much better for the meta-Others to do what they do.

as in? (what is this replying to what part of what I said?)

>There's a lot of harm to be done when manipulating your own genes,

again, what part of what I said are you saying this in response to?

>and I also see that you've responded in the thread I've mentioned.

Wait, which thread? can you point it out again for me please? I think I'm confused and maybe it wasn't me but I don't want to miss the point of what you're saying.

>Manipulating genes should be done on things that you have absolute control over or have absolute understanding of. Things like height, muscle strength, endurance and to extent hormones are easier to control and are self-stabilizing. Increasing your height will hurt, strength and endurance don't do much other than their intended effect, and hormones can be tricky since the body might convert x into y if there's too much x. Testosterone will become estrogen if you don't have enough androgen receptors, for example.

That's interesting. Is it safe to just ask the other side "hey I was just wondering, may I please have this if it's okay with you?" and maybe the other side will say no, or maybe the other side will say yes and help make those changes from a point of absolute control and absolute understanding?

I totally agree that it's severely dangerous to mess with anythign that one does not have absolute control and absolute understanding of.

>>38673

>as in? (what is this replying to what part of what I said?)

>again, what part of what I said are you saying this in response to?

That was more of a reply to >>38616

>Wait, which thread? can you point it out again for me please? I think I'm confused and maybe it wasn't me but I don't want to miss the point of what you're saying.

Misunderstanding on my part. I'm not qigong anon by the way.

>>38639

>may I share what I learned from you and create a guide once I practiced some more

I was actually going to suggest that you upload it later after you finish compiling it. That would be extremely beneficial to so many people, it makes me really happy to hear that's going to be done. My mentor would always talk about how he deserved to have a person writing down everything he said, but obviously the other side foresaw ego-related negatives that would've outweighed the positives. I think everybody would appreciate you doing that, I've wouldn't know where to start in order to create it myself because I don't remember which questions I'd need to answer in order to begin.

>>38673

>>38656 isn't me, but;

>Is it safe to just ask the other side "hey I was just wondering, may I please have this if it's okay with you?"

You can ask them practically anything and they should answer; the only time they don't is when they find the question petty. Most of the time they won't even answer your question directly, they'll just ask you questions in order to lead you to a self-developed conclusion. It's quite interesting how they do that actually; an advisor without bias nor the answers, only the questions to help you decide for yourself. Sometimes though, they'll give you direct 'Yes' or 'No' answers.

>>38695

>I was actually going to suggest that you upload it later after you finish compiling it. That would be extremely beneficial to so many people, it makes me really happy to hear that's going to be done.

Okay well just so you know it's probably going to be written from my own personal perspective and understanding that I have on it so that I can be as truthful and as passionate and clear as possible about it. I'm afraid I will say the wrong thing and accidentally mislead people if I try to over generalize it and make it mean something else that what I'm trying to intend.

I also don't want you to be offended or hurt by what I make if it kind of veers off-course of exactly how you were teaching me because I tend to absorb information and then take the best pieces and reorganize them and improve upon that and make something better in the end. I do that with food too, like two types of pie (take best of both) and make a really awesome pie afterwards from the best of both.

That's just an example of course. I will try my best to explain to people that it's open to interpretation and it can evolve from there. that being said, I'm very sure that I'm not going to write the guide for a very long time, probably months. The reason for this is because I'm trying to learn some thai-chi too and I'm reading other spiritual texts and trying to really find some good wisdom to incorporate into a healthy understanding. If you have some advice on thai-chi since I would really appreciate that too. It just looks so much like qigong don't you think?

I'm sure I will mention you in the guide like "thanks qigong anon for helping" so you know its me, but beware others who say that to pretend that they are me for some other sneaky reasons, just seems like a good thing to be careful about.

also if you have any other good advice for me, I'm been saving it and I really do read it more than once and think about it more than twice- I could really use more advice. more qigong/thai-chi/some other types of things we didn't talk about yet? just any advice, even completely unrelated advice like life advice or body care advice, nutrition, spiritual, anything.

I feel like you're really good and you never know what's gonna pop out of a good wise person so I'm just saying I'm open to hearing whatever you have to say so that I can try and work it into the guide eventually. I'm hoping to help people like you helped me. so thanks for that.

>You can ask them practically anything and they should answer; the only time they don't is when they find the question petty. Most of the time they won't even answer your question directly, they'll just ask you questions in order to lead you to a self-developed conclusion. It's quite interesting how they do that actually; an advisor without bias nor the answers, only the questions to help you decide for yourself. Sometimes though, they'll give you direct 'Yes' or 'No' answers.

I totally know what you're talking about. The other side can be really cute sometimes, in a really scary-powerful kind of way.

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>>38706

>I'm afraid I will say the wrong thing and accidentally mislead people

If you plan on making a subjective one, I can look over it and clarify if you'd like.

>I also don't want you to be offended or hurt by what I make if it kind of veers off-course

I doubt I'll get offended, don't worry.

>It just looks so much like qigong don't you think?

Yeah, you can feel by looking at them where the energy is concentrated.

>just any advice, even completely unrelated advice like life advice or body care advice, nutrition, spiritual, anything.

Well, basically what I do with qigong is use it for heightening consciousness and connectivity to the other side; boosting my metaphysical. Other than qigong, I'm individually involved with Norse runes, tarot cards, astrology, ethics, metaphysics and politics (now with ETs!). I can teach you what I know about these topics as well if you'd like, just let me know where to start so I don't just go on telling you things you already know.

>The other side can be really cute sometimes

You're think fascinatingly.

>>38723

>If you plan on making a subjective one, I can look over it and clarify if you'd like.

I don't really know, I mean. how do you describe subjective as an example? how about objective? I'm afraid I have trouble with those words sometimes and don't always know which is which definition-wise.

eventually when I start finishing the first version 1, I will try to find you on 8ch /x/ or 8ch /fringe/ again and show you. I'm going to try to be very honest about the way that I feel about all those things I learned from my perspective so I hope it's not to shocking or jarring in a bad way, but hopefully in a good way. I just have a way with understanding and sometimes it's not always "normal" but I'm going to try to keep it positive and fresh with 0% bs on my part inserted at all, but I don't know how much you will agree or disagree. I'm sure some parts I have in mind will make you really happy at least, but my biggest goal will be in showing what I learned in a way that feels like the deep actual truth while also being able to be understood by beginners as well (because the whole point is to help people get into the whole understanding from any level and rise up spiritually in a healthy and safe way)

>I doubt I'll get offended, don't worry.

okay. I do have interesting ways of interpreting the info I take in.

>just any advice, even completely unrelated advice like life advice or body care advice, nutrition, spiritual, anything.

>Well, basically what I do with qigong is use it for heightening consciousness and connectivity to the other side; boosting my metaphysical. Other than qigong, I'm individually involved with Norse runes, tarot cards, astrology, ethics, metaphysics and politics (now with ETs!). I can teach you what I know about these topics as well if you'd like, just let me know where to start so I don't just go on telling you things you already know.

hmmmm. I'm sort of interested in Norse runes and (metaphysics beyond what we discussed about qigong?)

>The other side can be really cute sometimes

>You're think fascinatingly.

hah. ok. thanks.

>>38729

>how do you describe subjective as an example? how about objective?

Subjective: opinionated and personal.

Objective: unbiased and factual.

>but I don't know how much you will agree or disagree

If it can be perceived, it must exist. It would more be understanding versus misunderstanding rather than agreeing or disagreeing.

>>38729

>Norse runes

I've never really followed any casting techniques or "correct processes" of doing readings, because in the end the idea of all forms of divine practice such as spoken about is primarily receiving messages from the other side and interpreting it in your own way. The other side will always know what you're going to conclude to, but sometimes they don't finalise the message until long after you've finished the reading; could be years if need be. The other side is a very complex reality.

My method of runecasting is as follows;

1. Grab your bag of runes.

2. Pour them out on your rune cloth (any soft surface; the runes hold spirit in them too, so you are supposed to treat them as you'd treat anything that holds spirit. It's also a good idea to crank-up your runes.)

3. Remove the face-down runes. The face-up runes will now be grouped.

4. Look at a group one at a time and read the meanings behind the runes that are together, then conclude what the singular group means.

5. After you've understood what all the groups mean, look at the entire cast on a large-scale and understood what the entire cast itself meant.

There is a lot of information that comes from runecasting, and it's one of the longer divination processes, so writing down what you think the groups mean on a piece of paper and illustrating a map of the spread is a good idea.

>metaphysics beyond what we discussed about qigong

After grasping qigong, you'll most-likely start dealing with exopolitics, then you'll learn about more advanced metaphysics when interacting with ETs. They've got advanced technology that harnesses metaphysical energy, and with more technology comes more advanced forms of knowledge. ET interaction will most likely be the next step. Also, look at the Hawkin's scale and find where you are, making a goal to heighten your energetic frequency based on that chart is a good idea.

>>38748

>Subjective: opinionated and personal.

>Objective: unbiased and factual.

>If it can be perceived, it must exist. It would more be understanding versus misunderstanding rather than agreeing or disagreeing.

Okay. my intention is to make it as much unbiased and factual as possible, but to be able to do that in a flowing and natural and passionate yet also clean and clear way I'm going to have to explain it from an opinionated and personal perspective, as weird as that sounds. I hope you understand what I mean.

>The other side is a very complex reality.

oh my gosh, so you've seen what I've seen little pieces of? I didn't know you saw that, I didn't know how to go about asking you or talking about it because I didn't know if our views on that type of thing were compatible enough for what I had to say to even matter to you or fit into your way of thinking or if you would even have a response for me in a sort of natural and organic context if you know what I mean. the other side is so beautiful isn't it? such little pieces I have seen, and even those little pieces, so so beautiful, even those little pieces so overwhelming. when I see that I am raised up and shed tears of joy and then fall into a terrible depression afterwards feeling so far away from it (since in hell earth).

>My method of runecasting is as follows;

>1. Grab your bag of runes.

I- uhh… where? haha maybe I didn't catch the lucky charms guy yet and steal his. just kidding! what's the best way to get some frosted crunchy runes?

>2. Pour them out on your rune cloth (any soft surface; the runes hold spirit in them too, so you are supposed to treat them as you'd treat anything that holds spirit. It's also a good idea to crank-up your runes.)

what's a rune cloth?

>3. Remove the face-down runes. The face-up runes will now be grouped.

Oh this is so much like tarot cards! I don't have a huge amount of experience but it already reminds me of them.

>4. Look at a group one at a time and read the meanings behind the runes that are together, then conclude what the singular group means.

so what you're saying is that some runes will already be closer together like little friends? each group will be a little story of meanings?

>5. After you've understood what all the groups mean, look at the entire cast on a large-scale and understood what the entire cast itself meant.

this is so tarot-card-ish. cool.

>There is a lot of information that comes from runecasting, and it's one of the longer divination processes, so writing down what you think the groups mean on a piece of paper and illustrating a map of the spread is a good idea.

maybe over the years some of the messages secretly link together!

>>38748

I guess runes and tarot cards are just another special way to allow yourself to hear what the other side has to say to you? many other ways happen naturally and organically without even doing anything, but I guess this allows for a more different type of message if it's needed. I wonder what happens when you do it and there is no message needed? or is every time you do it already pre-destined? I think yes. It's also a good way of learning what you already know but don't know you know too right?

>metaphysics beyond what we discussed about qigong

>After grasping qigong, you'll most-likely start dealing with exopolitics, then you'll learn about more advanced metaphysics when interacting with ETs. They've got advanced technology that harnesses metaphysical energy, and with more technology comes more advanced forms of knowledge. ET interaction will most likely be the next step. Also, look at the Hawkin's scale and find where you are, making a goal to heighten your energetic frequency based on that chart is a good idea

What is the hawkins scale? I would just "gewgle" it or something but I want to trust you specifically to show me the correct version just in case lower quality or dumbed down versions exist. a trap I do not want to fall into.

ET's having pure-true energy based tech explains everything about why UFO's are so mysterious and have such great stealth and everything. I'm laughing because all this time (even though time isn't real) the ufos were qigong-craft! It's like "hey we need to get to space right now" "ok don't worry bro just let me wrap myself in aluminum foil and do some yoga" *woosh into space* It's really like that isn't it? I'm on the floor! this is so funny! I'm not making fun of it, but I mean, ALL THIS TIME! the truth was so simple and so hidden from us!

what are the different ET's and are they technically what is known by humanity to be "angels"? what do they like to do?

what's going on with all the people who talk about getting abducted by "aliens"? why do some talk about positive experiences and others talk about negative experiences?

what is space really like? probably not the way nasa talks about it right? (is it a giant ocean of some kind of liquid similar to water?)

what is the earth really like?

are all ET's from metaphysical space/ "real reality" or do some come from physical places outside of earth?

>>38748

btw what do you know about the bluetooth runes? I know the mainstream story behind them but what other spiritual significance do they have?

>>38766

How are you measuring muscle growth?

>>38752

>so you've seen what I've seen little pieces of?

Yes, qigong is how you perceive the other side. I think it's really beautiful; I bet you have plenty of 12th house on your natal chart. We are highly repressed on this planet.

>what's the best way to get some frosted crunchy runes?

I know Jay Essex sells some on his website, but I personally have found it better off to find out what is dominant to your natal.

>what's a rune cloth?

Just any soft surface.

>this is so much like tarot cards

The methodology is practically identical; it's fascinating considering they relay messages in different ways.

what you're saying is that some runes will already be closer together like little friends? each group will be a little story of meanings?

Yeah, you'll notice when you remove the face-down runes; runes can also be reversed, just like tarot.

>maybe over the years some of the messages secretly link together

That's what I think too.

>>38116

Enemas.

>>38766

very interesting. It's funny you mention that.

>>38767

sometimes you can just tell. you look in the mirror and go "whoa, what happened to me?"

>>38769

I agree. enemas can be very beneficial, as weird as they may seem and feel. They've been around for probably as long as we've been on earth. sometimes I'm really depressed and I just do one and I feel so clean and happy afterwards.

>>38768

>Yes, qigong is how you perceive the other side. I think it's really beautiful; I bet you have plenty of 12th house on your natal chart.

what is 12th house? what are these houses?

>We are highly repressed on this planet.

Yea… us as in us or us as in people? I'm guessing a somewhat of both. the more you are the more cruel some of the baddies tend to be.

>I know Jay Essex sells some on his website, but I personally have found it better off to find out what is dominant to your natal.

I don't know what that means. "dominant to your natal" what exactly are they? little shapes like letters of the alphabet but made out of rocks?

>what's a rune cloth?

>Just any soft surface.

ok.

>this is so much like tarot cards

>The methodology is practically identical; it's fascinating considering they relay messages in different ways.

whoa.

>what you're saying is that some runes will already be closer together like little friends? each group will be a little story of meanings?

>Yeah, you'll notice when you remove the face-down runes; runes can also be reversed, just like tarot.

like facing away from you horizontally? or facing reversed like upside down vertically? in that case is it even worth removing the face down runes when you could allow them to become part of the message by adding another dimension to the message?

for example

>away from you horizontally

>towards you horizontally

>right side up vertically

>upside down vertically

>also combinations of the previous like rightside up and away or towards you or upside down and away or towards you

>none get removed

>all get factored in like a collage of woven together text with a complete and consistent meaning that flows in one direction from start to finish

>maybe even a multi-directional message that can be read from all points to all other points to get the same message from different perspectives, or multiple different messages overlapping each other. (maybe like the movie "arrival" and how the alien peoples communicate with words disconnected from time and how new people that learn the language also become disconnected from time because of the new perspective they learn from "knowing" the meanings and the language.

I know this makes it way more complicated but it would allow for more data transfer and a more complex message I think.

>maybe over the years some of the messages secretly link together

>That's what I think too.

you should watch the movie "Arrival" and "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage. It's name changed a few times with the mandela effect so you might be surprised to remember the same movie but with a different name now. "knowing" does fit the movie in a nice way though. it got bad reviews for some unfair reason (some kind of bias in people who didn't like the message) but I think its one of my favorite movies. It calls out to me in such a goosebump inducing spine shivering kind of knowing.

>>38753

>I wonder what happens when you do it and there is no message needed?

I would assume it would encourage you to focus your intuition into specific fields of thought until a greater message was needed.

>It's also a good way of learning what you already know but don't know you know too right?

Linguistic cues will set your mind on a tangent along a thread of thought.

>gewgle

Instead of Jewgle, use searx.

>It's really like that isn't it?

No, I mean they still have technology similar to our own; their ships run on some kind of plasma generator. They just have further metaphysical technology while we don't exactly have any.

>what are the different ET's

Only ones I've associated with have been the Annunaki (Reptillians), Pleiadian (Compassionate Aryans), Serpoian (Greys), Drakh (one of the most ancient races). I know there are more, but these are the ones I'm most familiar with.

>what do they like to do?

Annu: They're kind of like the Irish in behaviour.

Pleiadian: Share love and compassion.

Serpoians: Research and shit.

Drakh: Not quite sure.

>what's going on with all the people who talk about getting abducted by "aliens"?

A lot of it is for the attention, but you get abducted in your sleep then have your memory wiped afterwards so everything you can remember is cloudy and feels like a dream.

>what is space really like?

Physically I can't say because I've never been.

>probably not the way nasa talks about it right?

NASA love to lie.

>is it a giant ocean of some kind of liquid similar to water?

Space is seemingly an empty space, but there is still metaphysical energy in that space.

>what is the earth really like?

Earth is how you perceive it; a real-world simulation.

>are all ET's from metaphysical space/ "real reality" or do some come from physical places outside of earth?

ETs are from different planets on other fractals in our universe; we're all the same species that have just adapted recently. Take the Annunaki for example;

>look like a human

>live like a human

>have war

>blanket planet in fire

>survivors burrowed underground

>planet very similar to earth won't stop burning

>survivors can't get out of ground, start digging through the walls

>connect with other people that live underground

>develop civilisation through this underground network

>hollow the earth

>time goes on

>skin adapts to hot, burning planet

>develop scaly-skin and become cold-blooded

>eyes adapt to darkness

>develop beady eyes with similar composition to that of reptiles

>become reptillian race

>learn metaphysics over time, learn you can control lower beings through metaphysics

>develop technologies around that

>use metaphysical technology to go back in time to when your planet wasn't on fire

>time doesn't exist

>create another fractal in the universe nearly identical to your own, disregarding the fact that your species has not yet set itself on fire

>monitor over that fractal of new species called humans

>have many people stay in their bodies in order to prevent war that destroys your planet

>learn to hate humans for retarded behaviour

>enslave them

>get kicked off planet and individually put on trial

>come back to same planet

>to be continued once more things happen

>why do some talk about positive experiences and others talk about negative experiences?

Some people are treated well by ETs, others are exploited and abused.

>bluetooth runes

From a meditation, I received this information: "Sacred texts from a collapsed civilisation with a history unrecorded in your textbooks. A place of province and grandure, before being destroyed by ETs, though all of the ETs involved with that have been killed (taken out of body).

>>38766

thanks for posting that image. I wanted to make my reply for the image separate from the rest of my replies. I'm not sure of the correct way to read it and I'm feeling that it could be interpreted in more than 2 ways maybe 3 or 4 depending on how complicated we wanted to get, but I'm not sure which way is the offical way, or if that even matters (thinking outside the box).

I tried to read all rows and picture where I was but there where many moments where I felt lower in a certain row but simultaneously higher in the same row but then I realized that I wasn't being totally honest with myself and the truth is that I'm all over the place and I'm experiencing almost all of the parts of the entire chart simultaneously for a lack of a better word. I'm feeling all of the joy and the pain, all the positive and negative, the whole spectrum of emotions and feelings and understandings and levels all at once. I don't know if it's right to ask what this means because I feel like I already know the answer but don't know how to admit it to myself.

I'm not sure where to start or even what to say, and I don't know if it's wrong for you to give me an answer, but I need an answer from you just to make me realize that I already know the answer too or something. I'm getting a little uncomfortable almost thinking about it. It's like a nagging little thought in the back of my mind that keeps saying "hey! you know what is going on!" but is playfully waiting for me to figure it out for myself. This is highly unusual for me because usually I know everything about myself and I'm completely straight forward and honest with myself about everything.

please help.

>>38767

>How are you measuring muscle growth?

I'm not, that's just the feeling I got from it the method. Also, since doing more qigong, I noticed I'm becoming more toned even though I don't do any excercise and maintain a healthy weight.

>>38775

Just do qigong, ask the otherside what your energetic frequency is at, then apply it to the chart.

>I feel like I already know the answer but don't know how to admit it to myself.

Trust yourself some more, you're probably right. You've just still got self-doubt present by the sound of it.

>>38774

>Instead of Jewgle, use searx.

Oh yea, thanks! (remember ask jeeves? haha)

>No, I mean they still have technology similar to our own; their ships run on some kind of plasma generator. They just have further metaphysical technology while we don't exactly have any.

what about those liquid red magnetic mercury engines? outdated and dangerous/toxic/nuclear vihmannah tech?

>Only ones I've associated with have been the Annunaki (Reptillians), Pleiadian (Compassionate Aryans), Serpoian (Greys), Drakh (one of the most ancient races). I know there are more, but these are the ones I'm most familiar with.

>Annu: They're kind of like the Irish in behaviour.

so everybody knows everybody in town, roudy-rough and playful and joke-telling? lots of beer?

>Pleiadian: Share love and compassion.

from what I heard about them (very little) they seem really nice. you think maybe they abducted hitler and friends at the end of the war? like to go live in a nicer place and keep that type of aryan bloodline going?

>A lot of it is for the attention, but you get abducted in your sleep then have your memory wiped afterwards so everything you can remember is cloudy and feels like a dream.

It's so mysterious and fascinating to think what interest they may have with people to want to abduct them. I mean, maybe alot considering people are special souls driving human bodies. (at least the ones who aren't prorgammed npc characters for the lack of a better term)

>Earth is how you perceive it; a real-world simulation.

Whoaaa… so flat earthers have it actually flat, globe earthers have it actually spherical shaped, it just somehow overlaps their stuff.

>Take the Annunaki for example;

>learn to hate humans for retarded behaviour

>enslave them

>get kicked off planet and individually put on trial

>come back to same planet

>to be continued once more things happen

wow the Annunaki must feel really sad and frustrated because it's like going back in time and trying to convince your retarded 2 year old self to not stick forks in electrical sockets over and over again, which makes retarded 2 year old you cry and then your parents see "old future you" and scream "AHHHH STRANGER!!!" and flip out and screw you over and try to throw you in jail not knowing they're throwing their own kid in jail. Yiiiiiikkesssss. I hope things work out in the end for everyone. I want everyone to be happy and safe, but not only just that, healthy fun, and everything good.

>why do some talk about positive experiences and others talk about negative experiences?

>Some people are treated well by ETs, others are exploited and abused.

That's really strange because the other side is what allows people to use metaphysical abilities and they usually block or punish (painful but non-permanent slaps on the spiritual wrist) for those who abuse. so from there, how do so many ET's (the abusive ones) get around this sometimes? I mean, their ships would just turn off right, since the otherside has the keys to the ignition, so how to abductions happen in the first place?

what are some of the reasons ET's seek to abuse and exploit other people?

why are some so nice and what makes them choose "I'm going to kidnap this person in particular and just chill out with them and have a nice experience" I mean I have nothing against nice, as that seems to be the truth and right natural way for things to be.

>bluetooth runes

>From a meditation, I received this information: "Sacred texts from a collapsed civilisation with a history unrecorded in your textbooks. A place of province and grandure, before being destroyed by ETs, though all of the ETs involved with that have been killed (taken out of body).

so a long lost civilization of ET's used to use what we know to be the current "bluetooth" symbol? I guess it was nice and something went wrong? *sad feelings*

>>38776

>I'm not, that's just the feeling I got from it the method. Also, since doing more qigong, I noticed I'm becoming more toned even though I don't do any excercise and maintain a healthy weight.

>Trust yourself some more, you're probably right. You've just still got self-doubt present by the sound of it.

Your right, I should trust myself and the other side some more. I'm being silly. I have a weird problem where dumb silly doubt lingers in my mind even though I know I disagree with it and have renounced it long ago. I know what's right and I know what's wrong and what I agree and disagree with, and I know what the truth is to me, but still I'm sick with this lingering invisible floaty doubt poofing it's way about and teasing me and putting words in my mouth that I don't mean and only catch myself remembering later and going "hey! I didn't mean that!?" I know I have a bunch of past trauma, this life and some other sorts of weird perspectives, and I'm totally at peace and let go and forgave and forgot myself and others and moved on and yet I still remember and feel the pain even through the acceptance and peace. what's wrong with me? what are these errors in code, these phantom glitches? I'm ready to become better and no "buts" -but I fee lost. can you please help me somehow?

>>38777

I misunderstood the ET civ part, you mean those old ET's destroyed the old bluetooth symbol civ and they got punished you mean, I think I read it correctly now

>>38778

>*feel

thanks qigong anon for answering some of the questions. I'm sorry I started asking new ones just as you answered the previous ones. I guess we came on /x/ together! I hope you have a good day/night and I'll keep talking to you later.

>>38777

>what about those liquid red magnetic mercury engines?

Couldn't quite say, I never really interact with those working in or interested in engineering; I've only really dealt with political figures at this stage.

>so everybody knows everybody in town

Less this side.

>roudy-rough and playful and joke-telling

More this side.

>you think maybe they abducted hitler and friends at the end of the war

Hitler's clone came into existence at about the stage he went into chancellery.

>what interest they may have with people to want to abduct them

From my experience it's ranged from having them work on you to hanging out in a lounge-room. Really depends on who's doing it.

>so flat earthers have it actually flat, globe earthers have it actually spherical shaped,

However it can be physically perceived matters more than whether or not it's flat. It's a real world simulation on an asteroid practically, at least to my knowledge.

>it's like going back in time and trying to convince your retarded 2 year old self to not stick forks in electrical sockets over and over again, which makes retarded 2 year old you cry and then your parents see "old future you" and scream "AHHHH STRANGER!!!" and flip out and screw you over and try to throw you in jail not knowing they're throwing their own kid in jail

Spot on.

>how do so many ET's (the abusive ones) get around this sometimes?

Because the only abilities that are blocked out are negative ones; entering body is more neutral.

>what are some of the reasons ET's seek to abuse and exploit other people?

They're degenerates.

>so a long lost civilization of ET's used to use what we know to be the current "bluetooth" symbol?

It was a human civilisation run by ETs in secret, just like ours. That one was just made to collapse; it's happened multiple times. Egypt is a great city under all that sand.

>>38778

I think the only way you're going to be able to get through the suffering is to simply develop a tolerance, just as you would with all forms of suffering; avoid escapism.

>>38779

Annu were punished for being abusive to Earthlings.

>>38784

>what about those liquid red magnetic mercury engines?

>Couldn't quite say, I never really interact with those working in or interested in engineering; I've only really dealt with political figures at this stage.

Okay, I only read about it somewhere once or twice.

>roudy-rough and playful and joke-telling

>More this side.

that's funny.

>you think maybe they abducted hitler and friends at the end of the war

>Hitler's clone came into existence at about the stage he went into chancellery.

wait wait, what? what clone? why did they need a clone unless he died? or did they abduct him and leave a clone on earth? chancellery? what exactly do you mean?

>what interest they may have with people to want to abduct them

>From my experience it's ranged from having them work on you to hanging out in a lounge-room. Really depends on who's doing it.

what do they do? operate or mess about? surely they already know everything they need to know so why do they still supposedly do that (if they are still doing it?) what kind of fun and games happen when hanging out in a lounge?

>so flat earthers have it actually flat, globe earthers have it actually spherical shaped,

>However it can be physically perceived matters more than whether or not it's flat. It's a real world simulation on an asteroid practically, at least to my knowledge.

wait so you're saying that our entire universe is a simulation that's physically taking place on an actual real-physical asteroid somewhere else? or are you calling the world an asteroid upon which a virtual reality is being projected upon?

>Spot on.

Yea I don't exactly know why I knew that?

>I think the only way you're going to be able to get through the suffering is to simply develop a tolerance, just as you would with all forms of suffering; avoid escapism.

that's not really the answer I was looking for tbh.

>>38813

>why did they need a clone unless he died?

Annunaki wanted to keep the planet enslaved, but they didn't want the NSDAP ideology to go to waste, so clones were put in place while the members of the party have been accommodated on the moon. They kept true Adolf and clone Adolf around at the same time.

>chancellery?

Leadership in Germany.

>operate or mess about?

Depends what kind of ET and who you are to them.

>surely they already know everything they need to know

It's impossible to know everything you need to know unless you yourself are infinite.

>what kind of fun and games happen when hanging out in a lounge?

Can't remember too much because experiences are vague; I remember being on a couch and reaching into a holographic sort of Television then taking out a drink and seeing the owner's credit go down.

>our entire universe is a simulation

Our universe is an advanced chiball with consciousness basically.

>the world an asteroid upon which a virtual reality is being projected upon?

A physical reality that has been created by ETs more-like.

>>38814

>that's not really the answer I was looking for tbh.

What answer were you looking for?

>>38876

>Annunaki wanted to keep the planet enslaved, but they didn't want the NSDAP ideology to go to waste, so clones were put in place while the members of the party have been accommodated on the moon. They kept true Adolf and clone Adolf around at the same time.

whoa. so what did adolf do on the moon? did a natsoc society continue to exist on the moon? are they still doing okay today?

if the earth isn't a globe and isn't flat, but is rather both depending on what people think it is because it's all a simulation anyway, then how can the moon exist or not exist? what is the moon really then in that case or in any case at all from any or all perspectives or from different unique perspectives?

>what kind of fun and games happen when hanging out in a lounge?

>Can't remember too much because experiences are vague; I remember being on a couch and reaching into a holographic sort of Television then taking out a drink and seeing the owner's credit go down.

I'm choking to death here laughing but I'm also really sad for them, even deeply depressed. They're still trapped using space money!? oh no… I thought we would eventually go beyond the limiting idea of currency, but if someone as advanced as the good guys extraterrestrials are still using it, then we're F****d.

>Our universe is an advanced chiball with consciousness basically.

odd.

>What answer were you looking for?

>Trust yourself some more, you're probably right. You've just still got self-doubt present by the sound of it.

I'm kind of confused, like I'm not sure you were responding to this or something else.

Your right, I should trust myself and the other side some more. I'm being silly. I have a weird problem where dumb silly doubt lingers in my mind even though I know I disagree with it and have renounced it long ago. I know what's right and I know what's wrong and what I agree and disagree with, and I know what the truth is to me, but still I'm sick with this lingering invisible floaty doubt poofing it's way about and teasing me and putting words in my mouth that I don't mean and only catch myself remembering later and going "hey! I didn't mean that!?" I know I have a bunch of past trauma, this life and some other sorts of weird perspectives, and I'm totally at peace and let go and forgave and forgot myself and others and moved on and yet I still remember and feel the pain even through the acceptance and peace. what's wrong with me? what are these errors in code, these phantom glitches? I'm ready to become better and no "buts" -but I fee lost. can you please help me somehow?

>>38883

>what did adolf do on the moon?

Not really sure to be completely honest.

>did a natsoc society continue to exist on the moon?

The moon was a cultivated place long before the NatSocs got there.

>are they still doing okay today?

All original NatSocs have reincarnated already.

>if the earth isn't a globe and isn't flat

The Earth is more of a globe.

>what is the moon

The moon is a structure that has formulated in the same way every other planet has, the only difference is that it revolves around planets.

>They're still trapped using space money!?

It's not like Jewish currency; when a civilisation is given means towards development, whether or not they use money is necessary. Higher species don't use money, but I believe it were the Annunaki that I was hanging out with.

Alright, fellas. Qigong anon here.

In regards to the questions about using metaphysical energy to alter your limbs, I finally ended up testing it out and found success.

Obviously, I decided to try and grow my cock and surprisingly, it actually worked. I’ll tell you what I did step-by-step.

1. Formed a chiball.

2. Placed hands near my crotch.

3. Intended to put ‘growing’ energy on my dick.

4. I basically visualised the phallic outline, and then visualised it growing too, using my hands to guide the growth.

5. Felt a faint tingling sensation, confirming that the energy was working.

I did this for about 4 minutes after approximately a week without having sex (ejaculation wastes qi-energy), and by the end of the week, there was a slightly noticeable growth but didn’t really make a conscious note of it. I only became consciously aware that my dick had grown when looking at it flaccid and noticing it a few millimetres longer than before, as well as wider girth.

To explain this, I would have to say that it works by creating a sort of metaphysical space for the physical aspects to grow. Consider this: when you grow older and realise that your cock is supposed to grow from its baby-form (top David Icke), your expectation of said growth must somehow naturally develop a metaphysical area for the muscle to grow; when you become conscious that it has grown, you eventually become anxious that it will stop growing (self-doubt, leading to the blockage of metaphysical ability, and growth). Like most things to do with metaphysics, intention and trusting your abilities is what finds you the most success.

I think I’m going to keep doing this from now on, as well as with other parts of my body because I have never had the drive to go to the gym, and doubt I ever will.

Good luck, anons.

>>39825

Try turning off myostatin production.

>>39837

Why?

>>38890

Hey qi-anon, if you're still checking in on this place can you check my spirit?

Ammend the actions of your past.

>>40405

Well that's refreshingly straightforward…

>>38116

Only God can heal you through Jesus Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit, repentance from sin and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior is the only way to truly heal your soul. God bless.

>>38156

I find it interesting that you mention 5-HT3 receptors since Lysine happens to be a specific antagonist at this receptor. It is an amino acid that you can buy as supplement, I take it on days when I have white rice + veggies as my only meals since rice is lacking in this amino acid.

I'll add a couple infos :

Alcohol and Cannabis directly trigger serotonin receptors.

Dopamine inhibits serotonin synthesis, and prolactin (from ejaculation, also from stress) inhibits dopamine.

Tryptophan restriction is a direct way to lower serotonin (done by restriction of dietary protein, can also be done by taking Tyrosine or Phenylalanine with your protein to compete with Tryptophan absorption).

Fructose (sugar) triggers serotonin.

Curcumin raises serotonin.

Darkness and blue lights (LED) trigger serotonin, wearing blue-blocking glasses when starring at screen will cancel this effect, as well as using incandescent lights in your home.

Salt inhibits serotonin (remember the old folkore about salt, turns out science backs it up since it inhibits Aldosterone which increases serotonin)

Iron excess increases tryptophan hydrolyxase and so serotonin (can be lowered with ground coriander seeds, cranberry juice, IP6 and avoiding red meat)

>>40724

You are still confused. The pill was only swallowed halfway. The lock and key perspective of receptors and hormones only tells part of the story. Serotonin increases in response to stress and poor health in general. The wrong diet will cause serotonin to be chronically high, but you haven't yet formulated what a wrong diet is. Heuristics will only guide you so far. To question is to explore the emptiness being made manifest, and exploration requires energy. But energy is always there if only your eyes can see energy is nothing at all. Just to avoid more confusion, Mr. Chiballs is a different guy from me. You see, we're actually the same person—the only nonperson who ever wasn't. That's what's happening: nothing. You know already don't you? So much for confusion.

But down on planet Earth, sure, let's lower serotonin there. That's a fun game to play. You'll have made major progress when you understand polyunsaturated fats. But fructose will be a stumbling block for you—as will be being sure of yourself and what you know. Good thing being sure of yourself is related to high serotonin or else you'd have to get lucky before getting on the right track. Wait a minute. Everything seems awful lucky. What are the chances this existence would happen? 0% and 100% I imagine.

>>40764

Chill, I was only posting additional information that can be helpful. Much of them directly hinting at what is the "wrong diet". I know well that our mind is the most important determinant in the synthesis of hormones.

Being sure of yourself is more of a trait of high dopamine people, you can't be both high dopamine and high serotonin since the first inhibits tryptophan hydrolyxase, the rate-limiting enzyme for serotonin synthesis. High dopamine gives you confidence and the ability to ignore risks thus raising risk-taking and impulsive behaviours.

Your vague blattering full of repressed emotions sounds pretty high serotonin though, try to lessen stress. Serotonin makes you talk for nothing by wanting to express your feelings and from the desire to feel respected (in your case, to be seen as wise), dopamine makes you stick to the facts.

You have to meditate and let go of the bad mojo. There are no shortcuts.

>>38431

Goolag "servitor" bruh

>>40778

^^ meant for green text guy in 38431

Question for qigong anons:

Can you confirm if intent + chi is sufficient to manifest a speck/simulation of a speck of dust somewhere out in space, and if so can this be done/repeated on sufficient scale to trigger consciousness-supporting-galaxy formation from that dust cloud, and if so can this be done by 1 dude or some other configuration of entities?

>>40772

>Chill

I am and was.

>I was only posting additional information that can be helpful.

As helpful as a blind man offering his hand to guide another across the street.

>Being sure of yourself is more of a trait of high dopamine people

Dogmatism arises from serotonin.

>Your vague blattering

The result of a mind reflecting the universe is nonsensical, because that's the essence of existence—nonsense. By "design", it thwarts all attempts to be categorized, dissected, and systematized. What's happening is beyond understanding, but that's everything there is to witness—in other words, nothing at all.

>full of repressed emotions

It is strange to call that which flows out unhindered to be repressed.

I didn't come to merely tell you that you were wrong or guard some vane reputation, but you are wrong while heading in an interesting direction. It's not important that you accept that, and I see countless others day in and day out more wrong than you will ever be without so much as giving away a tiny hint to correct their course. You've caught a whiff of some strange scent is all. You are a horse leading itself to the water that no man could make you drink on command. If you keep doing what you are doing to continually learn, you will find that water eventually, but things happen. Sometimes saplings are cut down or tread upon before they grow tall. Nothing is guaranteed. What happens is gonna happen—no "stopping" it (What is there to stop after all?)—but sometimes it takes an exciting direction when the stars align.

It is against my intuitive behavior to spoon feed, and likewise it is probably against yours to be spoon fed. However, it is much more my style to find things and point, "Hey, look what I found. Ain't it neat. You like that?" I know where you can go to refine your current knowledge, and they are sources that support empirical confirmation of their ideas—not authorities that expect blind faith. Are you coming or not? I ain't got all night to keep writing this.

>>40807

Sure. Show me.

>>40807

>in other words, nothing at all

You haven't thought about this at all. My virtue calls out in anger.

>>40809

irc.rizon.net #arcanine is where I can relay the initial source to you. I'm there most days for a slice of time. There is no funny business to partake in. I'll get straight to the point when you encounter me. I'll explain why I don't relay it publicly when you get there. It's actually a very ordinary reason. Not interested? That's fine. There are alternatives—which I personally use in conjunction—but they are often sources of confusion for those without foundation.

>>40810

Of course not. The truth is denied by thinking and found again by the unwinding of delusions. There is no journey to partake in for there is no lost item to retrieve. You've already got it in your hands—that intangible essence of reality which is impossible to grasp. Don't you know? There is nothing to know. Can't you see? Through every lie, a tale admits the truth. Haven't you heard? The only sound is the whispering silence. Have you felt it? Emptiness hides behind a heart full of joy and sadness and countless funny things.

>>40825

You've not thought it through. You're misleading people with your delusion. You've not seen the full picture. You've not seen the extent of your words and what they imply. From the start you speak nonsense and insult the truth. Stop talking.

>>40827

>You're misleading people

There's no destination, nor is there a desired state of mind or a belief I wish to impress upon people. There's nothing to be gained—nothing to be lost. These words are confusing if one is confused, because they cause a deluded self to see its twisted reflection staring back.

>You've not seen the full picture.

The picture is always there. Nobody hasn't seen it yet, but some deny it.

>From the start you speak nonsense and insult the truth.

Truth is nonsensical. When you put something in a little box, you can make sense of it, but attempts to do so with truth are in vain.

>>40829

>There's nothing to be gained—nothing to be lost

Delusion, you've seen the world and just assumed that you know best.

>The picture is always there. Nobody hasn't seen it yet, but some deny it.

You've seen the conclusion, not the argument.

>Truth is nonsensical

You do not know the extent of your words or what you are doing.

>>40830

>you've seen the world and just assumed that you know best.

I didn't really come to argue, but I'll clarify one last time just in case you missed it. I don't think I know better than you. I said "You've already got it in your hands." You're already "enlightened" if you will. I had fun creating funny phrases to try to talk about funny things is all.

>>40831

You think this is funny, but it is very serious. You are not a normal person. You do not think like a normal person. Therefore, I can't treat you like one. This is very serious. You are not normal, but you understand things from the perspective of a normal person. What you don't understand is the full picture. You've not the implications of your words. You don't understand the damage that you are doing.

>>40832

>it is very serious

If I'm having a laugh, who is it serious to? You? The prospect of you taking it upon yourself to get serious because of me is even funnier.

>What you don't understand is the full picture.

In fact, it should be obvious that I admitted this much by saying "What's happening is beyond understanding".

>You don't understand the damage that you are doing.

Cool. What am I damaging?

>>40834

>If I'm having a laugh, who is it serious to

Again, you don't know the implications of your words. However, you are not normal. Your words hold more weight than you can understand.

>The prospect of you taking it upon yourself to get serious because of me is even funnier

My posts were made for you. Only you can understand their meanings, I have built them for you from your perspective.

>it should be obvious that I admitted this much by saying

No, you don't understand. Not even your own words do you understand. You have enlightened to nothing. You have fallen into delusion, and this delusion is very deep and very serious. You are speaking of things that you do not understand.

>What am I damaging?

You jump from one perspective to another to justify your position. No answer will satisfy you, you refuse to see the truth. You've not seen a thing, and never have, but that can change.

>>40835

>you don't know the implications of your words.

This sounds amazing. I love surprises

>My posts were made for you.

Awww, how sweet. I bet you say that to all the virgin

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here, give me a kiss, old buddy, old friend, old pal o' mine

SMOOOOOOOOCH

>>40809

Just missed you, dude. I was there but AFK. I'll be on tonight but about to do some shopping. There will be plenty of opportunities for the foreseeable future if you aren't in a rush.

bump

dont eat mass prouceded meat

if you do get it from a farm

or hunt it yourself

avoid all toxins in the modern food supply

take cbd oil and vitamin c

try to be positive

but dont be a robot

or too positive

>>38116

Pray a lot, repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your savior.

>>38171

Ooh,do me next.

Someone try to give me a read.

>>38130

This nigga