No.37461[Last 50 Posts]
The Suicide of Saul was painted in 1562 by the Netherlandish Renaissance artist Pieter Bruegel the Elder. Do you notice anything weird about it?
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No.37462
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No.37463
Gondola to the side of the "floating" castle.
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No.37464
>>37462
>>37463
Epic memes, but wrong.
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No.37479
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No.37481
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No.37503
>>37461
They are riding Dinosaurs (Dragons). Awesome find!
Marco Polo documents them in his travels. His travels took place from around 1271-1298.
"Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city….Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length (about 30 feet), and ten spans (about 8 feet) girth of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."
The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;
http://www.forbidden-history.com/marco-polo.html
They were around until quite recently.
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No.37505
>>37503
The painting could be poorly painted camels. While they do look like brontosauruses, they have no tails in the painting.
Marco Polo is of greater interest. I've heard of arctic dinosaurs but not dinosaurs that can't handle the heat. I looked at the book on Internet Archive and tried to find where the locations are today but I couldn't find an exact match. Sichuan province is all I know.
If Marco Polo was right about their gall being used as medicine, then you can assume the dinosaurs were hunted to extinction. The Chinese sure do have a habit of eliminating species.
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No.37506
>>37503
where are their skeletons my dude
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No.37507
>>37506
I keep it behind the counter in powder form. It is ready to sell to you.
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No.37515
>>37505
>The painting could be poorly painted camels. While they do look like brontosauruses, they have no tails in the painting.
/x/ busters resolved their first mystery! Congratulation! Now we have other pseudo paranormal events to debunk, Guys !
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No.37521
>>37503
>>37505
Check out this thread I made last year.
https://8ch.net/x/res/28780.html
It's about dinosaurs being described as dragons in an ancient Greek book. I quoted all the relevant chapters in that thread and added my own comments below. The text is quite explicit in its descriptions, and it says that dragons were not only common around those times, but they were also routinely hunted by Indians. I didn't know they also made an appearance in Marco Polo's journeys, I figured they were all dead by that time. The implications of dinosaurs coexisting with man are potentially huge, I wish it was a more popular subject.
I remember reading about an ancient English coin that supposedly depicted a dinosaur, but I've never been able to find it.
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No.37737
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No.37739
>1562
Yes, it sucks for Renaissance art, even from the North where they were still shit.
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No.37786
No one in the right mind can deny those look like dinosaurs, and the rest of the evidence within this thread, but dinosaurses had feathers and you don't hear about that in those mentions of them. I'll research different dinosaurses because of this thread and maybe some didn't have feathers but while the evidence is great there's still reason to doubt
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No.37787
>>37786
Based on what I've read, the cold blooded herbivores had rough skin, while it was the warm blooded carnivores that were bird-like.
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No.37810
Just saying, it's not unlikely that these were large Birds. There were Moa in New Zealand that were approximately the same size and we are in pretty much the same Climatological as the Danes are
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No.37820
>>37810
>four legged birds
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No.37832
Could the Tombstone Thunderbird tie into this at all?
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No.37836
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No.43059
Wasn't there a story some time ago about a T-rex fossil that was still fresh? They said they had found soft tissue attached to the bone.
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No.43126
Okay, I've found the story, and wow, I think this nicely sums up why you should take everything scientists say with a grain of salt.
tl;dr They really did find T. rex flesh dating back from 68 million years ago. But instead of wondering whether their dating methods are flawed, or whether maybe some dinosaurs did survive until recently, what did they do? First they tried to explain it by saying that it wasn't really T. rex flesh, but some sort of bacterial invasion.
Then when that didn't work, they're now saying the iron content in the fossil somehow managed to preserve it for tens of millions of years. They tested this hypothesis by soaking ostrich blood vessels in iron-rich liquid, and since it was still 'recognizable' after 2 years, they declared the mystery solved.
Apparently this isn't the only find of its kind, and some fossils are even older. At least they're not destroying them or trying to deny their existence, but I really wish there was an actual scientific debate on this issue.
https://www.livescience.com/41537-t-rex-soft-tissue.html
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No.44616
Found pic related. Translates to 'Galerix'
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No.44622
>>43126
Most of science is backed by government funding, AKA, the government gets to look at and clear all data before it goes out for public consumption
there were some ancient pyramids out in china that the chinese government paid farmers to do work on, there's lots of shady things out there regarding historical facts.
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No.44623
>>44622
the chinese government paid farmers to obscure some ancient pyramids sites - to be more clear
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No.44625
>>37505
Were medieval camels known for having necks longer than a man? That's a really badly painted camel if it is one. Remember that if there were any dinosaurs alive 65 million years after the Cretaceaous, they could have looked pretty different from the dinosaurs you see in museums, possibly even to the point of not having noticeable tails.
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No.44628
>>37503
He was literally describing some kind of theropod, probably a tyrannosaurus (short arms). Amazing. I wonder how many stories like that exist in the ancient chronicles, but we're just never told about them by historians, because they refuse to believe what's right in front of their eyes? I think I'm going to do some research on this.
>>44622
I don't think there's even any need for the government to censor their findings… scientists already do that by themselves.
>>44625
Yeah, the neck is way too long for them to be camels, and they're quadrupeds, so we can rule out the 'big birds' hypothesis.
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No.44633
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No.44637
>>44633
No idea what it means, either a prehistoric species of hedgehog-like animals, or some liquidated Latvian company.
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No.44638
>>44637
>>44633
My mistake, it's either Gallerix or Garlerix, depending on whether or not the third letter intended to have a second dot on the end. Still no idea what it means.
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No.44648
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No.44668
>>44616
Looks digitally overlaid if I'm being honest. Any fullsize scans of the painting available for scrutiny?
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No.44669
>>37503
The one key factor that would add credence to the dinosaur theory though is absent. Height. Marco Polo makes no mention as to whether or not these creatures were biped. They could easily be giant crocodiles or komodo dragons.
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No.44672
>>44668
I checked the wikipedia page, it's present there. I had assumed that OP had put it there. I should have known that OP wasn't clever enough to do something like that.
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No.44792
>>44616
Yes, I am sure that the artist put a Morse code message in the painting 300 years before it was invented
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No.47098
Those are fucking horses
Inb4 phonefag
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No.47106
>>47098
In your screenshot, yes, but not whatever the guys in the distance are riding.
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No.47125
>>47106
could they be camels?
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No.47152
>>47125
maybe camels and giraffes. probably filling an arc
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No.47153
>>37461
Beaky Buzzard.
that overlooking cliff is his neck. eyes and beak are the castle and hill in the background
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No.47157
>>47125
>>47152
Probably. I doubt the artist had a good idea of what a camel looked like, so maybe he just winged it?
The painting is supposed to depict a Biblical scene, yet the environment is not one you would associate with the middle-east; it is green and lush, river and pine forests, and the armour is distinctly European medical armour! The artist drew on what he knew from European landscapes and armour, and he probably didn’t have the faintest idea what a camel was supposed to look like – maybe a brief description of it to work with – so he put them in the background and painted what he thought they looked like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism
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No.47162
>>44616
Galerix is a website that creates high-quality scans of paintings. That's their watermark.
https://en.gallerix.ru/
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No.47260
What a fascinating thread.
>>43126
To contribute something for the thread:
I will never forget this video, because it pretty much confirms how inaccurate is "science" and "history" as we all know it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXcge5YUPLo
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No.47274
Cool shit. I love Bruegel but never saw this
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No.49960
This is another painting by the same artist, showing a "wild man" - the ancient European name for Bigfoot. Was Bruegel /our guy/?
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No.49963
>>49960
holy shit this made me laugh so hard
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No.49971
>>37786
Mainstream science is moving away from the "feathered dinosaur" theory.
>There is evidence that in at least some cases these so-called feathered dinosaurs are really misidentified birds. Also, most of these fossils are from China, of which they are known to have a fake fossil industry. This places a question mark on all such finds. While some evolutionists believe that dinosaurs are ancestors to our modern day birds, there is no evidence to prove it, but all the evidence against it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaur
I'm adding this only because I always thought the "dinosaurs had feathers" thing was true until someone else informed me recently that this is no longer the case.
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No.49980
What about the "they lived in waist-deep water" theory? It's based on the idea they would have wasted too much muscle energy holding up those huge tails, so maybe the tails were floating.
Which further suggests (as fossils suggest a large range) that the Earth once had a lot more water on it, covering a large part of the land (or what maps of plate tectonics guesstimate to have been land given the same sea level. If humans were around further back than is commonly accepted, could a folk memory of all this water have contributed to the Biblical flood story?
Also some things about humans, such as the way our body hair lines up, suggests a relatively recent "aquatic" phase in our evolutionary past.
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No.49982
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No.49990
>>44792
>sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic -some faggot
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No.49991
>>44637
>>44638
>esotericism intensifies
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No.49992
>>49971
>China, of which they are known to have a fake fossil industry
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No.50000
>>49992
Yeah, that took me by surprise too. I've heard christians talk about fake fossils as part of a conspiracy to convince us that dinosaurs were real, and always dismissed it as faith-induced stupidity, but apparently this kind of thing actually happens, although for different reasons…
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No.50004
>>50000
Is there anything that China doesn't make fakes of?
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No.50006
>>50004
The point is, I had no idea that this was even possible. How do you fake a fossil? If the Chinese are doing it, could some Western scientists be doing it too?
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No.50007
>>50006
A fossil is literally just a bone-shaped rock. It can't be too hard to re-shape a rock into the shape of a bone.
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No.50008
>>49971
The quote in this post was removed from the Wikipedia page after this comment was posted. I guess that was a little too much truth from the Wiki censors!
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No.50009
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>50006
The process of fossilization can be accelerated but I don't know what material they would use.
>>50007
Not quite, and yes, but fossils still retain structure so it's not like a regular rock.
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No.50012
>>50006
I got an unexpected red pill while visiting a dinosaur fossil exhibit years ago. There was a plaque explaining how the museum acquired its fossils. Back in the early 1900s, Andrew Carnegie, one of the richest and most powerful men in the world at the time, financed an archaeology dig in the middle-of-nowhere Utah. It was from this dig that a small and well-financed crew "discovered" a bunch of dinosaur fossils and shipped them to Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh where they are still on display.
Now let's read between the lines. This was the early 1900s in rural Utah. There were no phone lines or cameras. If the archaeology crew found anything "inconvenient" to the mainstream narrative (such as human fossils next to the dinosaur bones), it could be quietly disappeared or hidden away with the public none of the wiser. Or maybe there were no fossils and what's on display in the museum is indeed a hoax. The point here is that this archaeology crew was in a position to either cover up or create whatever hoax story they wanted. How could the public prove them wrong? The small archaeology crew that "discovered" them was on Carnegie's payroll and unlikely to divulge what they really found out there in rural Utah.
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No.50020
>>50012
>This was the early 1900s in rural Utah. There were no phone lines or cameras.
nigga plz
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No.50023
>>50012
Hiding them away is one thing - and this certainly happened with giant human bones, for example - but fabricating fake fossils? That's harder to do, and quite risky. Some other paleontologist, maybe a rival, or simply a honest man, could expose your hoax and ruin your reputation. Unless every paleontologist is part of the conspiracy, which is very hard to believe.
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No.50026
>>50020
'Rural Utah, Anon. Hundreds of miles away from any city in the middle of a barren desert. Hell, I'd be surprised if there was landline service out there now in 2019. The nearest phone from that archaeology expedition was probably hours away, making it far more difficult for a snitch to sneak off and alert people to any shady doings.
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No.50030
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>50023
>>50026
Loosely related to the desert wilderness and spooky bones, I watched this interesting video yesterday about a place near Phoenix.
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No.50053
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No.50056
>>37461
What is that bloody mark on the upper left doing here?
Did the "author" made someone draw this shit up to 85%, made him suicide, then left the mark with the corpse blood?
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No.50887
>>37737
Thats looks like a Deep One
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No.50899
>>49960
Holy shit, it's a negro!
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No.50900
>>50012
There are literal tons on fossils of the same species at multiple museums.
You only saw the first to be uncovered on display.
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No.54220
>>37786
>No one in the right mind can deny those look like dinosaurs,
they look like camels the on the far right has its hind legs clearly visible and that looks exactly like a camel, the head is a bit small but then a northern European would probably not be intimately familiar with camels.
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No.54226
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No.54227
>>54226
Here is a clearer image of said sauropods in painting.
The skeptics are going to say that these are fucking camels!
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No.54228
>>54227
Whatever this thing is?
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No.54229
>>54227
>The skeptics are going to say that these are fucking camels!
As I said in >>47157 the artist likely had only a vague idea of what a camel looks like, but I think that is what they are supposed to be. This is a painting of a Biblical scene after all.
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No.54230
>>54229
His camels look like shit.
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No.54247
>>54227
The thing that makes this look like a dinosaur is the "legs" which if you look closely are just people standing in front of it at just the right spots. Seriously, look for their heads (white dots) right above them, every single "leg" is actually a person. This could be camels.
Kind of looks like emus to me
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No.54284
Here's a great essay on this topic.
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No.54285
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No.54301
>>37481
They were crap at drawing things back then, but they at least had some consistency in regards to the size of people. Why then is there a silver man/knight thing at least three and a half times as tall as the other people? Screwing up the size or perspective of one body part is the kind of mistake artists and painters made back then. Drawing one person amongst a group that much bigger is not.
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No.54305
>>37481
>>54301
>>54226
>>54227
>>54229
I've been checking out Medieval renditions of camels, and if the artist did not ever actually see a camel in his life; I assume that they would have gone by Medieval crap drawings to create what they believed kind of looked like a camel…especially since it is from a distance.
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No.54306
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No.54821
>>54306
the camel faces look so human lol
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