/x/ - Paranormal

Bumping for interest

I doubt we're living in a simulation. The computational power required to create a simulation of the scale of the universe would be ridiculous, and it would be a tremendous waste of energy. A civilisation capable of such a feat would have nothing to gain from it. And even if we were living in a simulation, from our point of view nothing would change, since we would be part of it.

>How come you were born in the first place?

Cause and effect.

>How come you exist in this body and aren't just a rock on the Moon? Why are we trapped in this body even though there's no logical explanation behind it?

Physics.

How would we even break out of a simulation? It would be like cartoon characters breaking out of your TV.

>>32475

If you seriously believe Buddha was talking about quantum mechanics when he talked about the illusion of life, you're deluded.

And if you knew anything about physics, you'd know that reconciling classical physics and quantum physics is one of the major problems of modern science. You can't just deny physical reality because we don't yet have a theory that explains it all.

>>32459

The danger of using analogies like 'simulation', 'tv', etc is that they can be misleading, because they're not perfect analogies. The nature of reality is infinitely more complex than a piece of 20th century technology. For all we know, there might not be a clear separation between our 'simulated' universe and the original one. It's also possible that our consciousness exists in both realities simultaneously, which might be where the idea of transcendence comes from.

>>32450

>> What if the great war Revelations was talking about is actually happening

>> What if this is a simulation designed to prep us for our rolls on the other side

Not particularly a believer in magic but, the way it works as I understand

>> Believe in something hard enough and that will make it legit

>> What if those are just dev options or something similar

>> Ever since a few threads on back ground characters, it's become impossible to notice that many people are extremely similar to NPCs

>>32486

This

Doesn't the world technically not exist (from your perspective) if you're dead? Without senses, there is no color spectrum, no vision, and no audio.

In my opinion, the world might not be a simulation, but there is so much more to it than the mere physical/material level and this leads me to believe that there are more dimensions to the 3rd one (even the 4th one if that one is time) so we do not know or are unable to understand all the mysteries that we would like to know.

We as beings have a relation with all dimensions and project ourselves on every single one of these, but we are unable to have direct conscious contact with them since we are entirely limited by our senses (and for some, partially to the limits of their understanding). The world might feel like a simulation at times because those dimensions have an effect in our life, like strange synchronicities or the feeling that you are out of your body.

I think Magic might apply change on a dimension that we don't understand, our Spirit and Astral body also exist/have contact with higher dimensions, quantum physics can be understood (or seen more 'clearly') on other dimensions too, black matter and black energy might be in a state related to other dimensions, etc…

I do not have a strong empirical argument, but it is sort of ignorant for humans to think that the entire universe is composed of a certain limited number of dimensions, let alone that even the majority of that arbitrary number could be dimensions that are within the grasp of our mental comprehension. We would be like a point being ignorant that it's part of a line and being even more ignorant that it could form three dimensional matter. Maybe even the word dimension is wrong, and saying something like 'planes' is more exact, but I hope you get my point.

>>32540

I don't know, I've never died before.

>>32453

computer power advances so fast that a few years ago a computer took up an entire room and cost millions.

now we have shitty generic cell phones that cost 10$ and are more powerful than hundreds of those computers from back then combined.

>>32482

>If you seriously believe Buddha was talking about quantum mechanics when he talked about the illusion of life, you're deluded.

no! don't make any connections! stop discovering! stop realizing!

shills

>>32453

>I doubt we're living in a simulation. The computational power required to create a simulation of the scale of the universe would be ridiculous, and it would be a tremendous waste of energy. A civilisation capable of such a feat would have nothing to gain from it. And even if we were living in a simulation, from our point of view nothing would change, since we would be part of it.

forgot to quote.

>>32670

>heaven (real reality, also is God):

>real

>no bad limitation (freedom)

>eternal (outside of time and lasts forever)

>good

>earth universe (hell simulation):

>fake

>limitation (everything is such a problem)

>temporary and temporal (time bound and doesn't last forever)

>bad

If anything, if the universe is in fact a simulation then all the more reason to care even less for our surroundings.

>>32675

Without limitations, how can there be freedom? You're only free when you're able to break through or bypass some limitation.

>>32694

freedom is when you can be yourself and be happy without effecting others in ways they don't want to be effected. basically everyone is happy and everyone is free and nobody gets anything they don't want, while getting everything that they do want. very complicated, can't happen on earth.

>>32686

you're suppose to try your best anyways.

>>32695

That's impossible in any case. Conflict is unavoidable.

>>32699

then you don't know heaven m9

>>32453

You're applying our universe's rules to the situation, though. Imagine if little sentient pixel-men on Atari 2600 arrived on current gen consoles. Their minds would be blown seeing the graphical improvements. If this is a simulation, the way we see things here may be nothing but pixels to outside observers and the observable universe could very well be simulated with such low graphics. We could literally be Dwarf Fortress running on some alien NEET's toaster.

>>32450

Simulation theory is blackpilled and it's not worth thinking about tqbh.

>>32739

what exactly is "blackpilled" and why should we stop talking about extremely interesting subjects?

>>32738

this is a really interesting way of describing it.

(don't edit your post!)

that's why I say this:

>>32674

because when you wake up into real reality, everything is mind blowingly real and beautiful.

>>32450

>How come people seem so content with their lives and uncaring of the world beyond?

I believe this is from mental masturbation of so many things in our culture of surplus.

People have been pushed into a corner of uninterest from having all the social interaction they need online as well as any curiosity that they could imagine.

Just like how masturbation to porn dulls your drive to find a man/woman to mate with, the abundance of quick answers from the internet does something similar.

With porn and whatnot you dont get any experience with being romantically intimate with a person as well as loose the experience of getting to that point.

In the old days for information you would have to look thorugh multiple books and talk with people who you think would know and become even more interested as you learned deeply about a subject and were able to learn about things surrounding the subject (I.E. How to plant tomatos could turn into you learning about the whole biology of how plant species evolve, or possibly what local plants are edible that you can find in the wild) but now what you do is just do a quick google search to find the answer and it rarely goes farther than that for the normal person, occasionally you will go down the rabbit hole of info but usually it will just end in you watching webM comps.

I believe this is one of the possible reasons why people just sit around, uninterested with whats going on around them.

>>32796

>How come people seem so content with their lives and uncaring of the world beyond?

>I believe this is from mental masturbation of so many things in our culture of surplus.

>People have been pushed into a corner of uninterest from having all the social interaction they need online as well as any curiosity that they could imagine.

people have been pushed into a corner but it's not the one you're talking about.

it's a nice theory coming from someone who has no idea what's going on.

>Just like how masturbation to porn dulls your drive to find a man/woman to mate with, the abundance of quick answers from the internet does something similar.

>With porn and whatnot you dont get any experience with being romantically intimate with a person as well as loose the experience of getting to that point.

nofapper detected. porn isn't the cause of the disease of our world, it's just a symptom, if not a remedy to a largely dissatisfied and burnt out population that is just sick of low quality people. if there were better people around, the people who enjoy porn and learned so much from it would be better lovers. sadly, there are not many good matches for intelligent people around.

>In the old days for information you would have to look thorugh multiple books and talk with people who you think would know and become even more interested as you learned deeply about a subject and were able to learn about things surrounding the subject (I.E. How to plant tomatos could turn into you learning about the whole biology of how plant species evolve, or possibly what local plants are edible that you can find in the wild) but now what you do is just do a quick google search to find the answer and it rarely goes farther than that for the normal person, occasionally you will go down the rabbit hole of info but usually it will just end in you watching webM comps.

I do agree with this. would be nice to have both the good information combined with the positive social interaction, but the problem these days is that human beings are just deathly uninteresting to be honest. most people are "normies" and it's a miracle we got trump elected.

>I believe this is one of the possible reasons why people just sit around, uninterested with whats going on around them.

people are sick of the world, sick of life, and sick of the imperfection of humanity. school is brainwashing, jobs are wage slavery, getting married is a sick cruel joke, and having kids is another. people have played enough of this videogame and are simply waiting for the quit button to appear when God drops down the menu for them.

this is the great awakening. we don't go out with a bang, or a whimper. we go out with a slightly agitated yet confused half mumble with total acceptance of the end, and beggining of being reunited forever with eternal perfection.

>>32797

>nofapper detected. porn isn't the cause of the disease of our world, it's just a symptom

I was just using it as an example, like how social media does a similar thing with autists. It they become more social online, but dont really get better in their ability to socialize in real life.

I understand the thing on low quality people, but you have to redpill people man or at least discuss things with them enough to raise their quality. A realationship should get better with time and not worse, something like porn is not that bad, but it reinforces these ideas that the person you are fit for spending the rest of your life with is going to be a 9/10.

> if there were better people around, the people who enjoy porn and learned so much from it would be better lovers.

>learned so much from it

>would be better lovers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfJSflf57eI

>>32798

>I was just using it as an example, like how social media does a similar thing with autists. It they become more social online, but dont really get better in their ability to socialize in real life.

that's not always the case at all though, it does happen to some people but it's not common enough to be a consistant example is it?

>I understand the thing on low quality people, but you have to redpill people man or at least discuss things with them enough to raise their quality.

to be fair this works with some people, very VERY slowly. alot of people are just stuck being stupid or evil. I hate saying that but I know from experience on that at least.

>A realationship should get better with time and not worse,

I like that wordplay "realationship". I don't disagree, but it only gets better when the people are happy and compatible.

>something like porn is not that bad, but it reinforces these ideas that the person you are fit for spending the rest of your life with is going to be a 9/10.

only if you're extremely ignorant and shallow. some of the most intelligent people just watch porn, and understand it's just entertainment. they know they aren't getting a 10/10, or really even a 5/10 because societies view on what a 10/10 is and a 5/10 is are completely different than the view of the intelligent individual who has a totally different understanding and rating system for the people around them.

I might look at a 10/10 model and if they like me enough to go on a date with me I might quickly discover that their personality is horrible or realize how brainwashed they are. as soon as I realize this they are a walking pile of trash to me. personality and morals and beliefs are as important if not more so than just shallow looks. I don't care how beautiful someone is if their soul is shit.

>if there were better people around, the people who enjoy porn and learned so much from it would be better lovers.

>learned so much from it

>would be better lovers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfJSflf57eI

I don't have a chance to watch right now but I'm guessing it's an example where one couple didn't work out right? I'm sure there are some cases where people just fail sex out of stupidity… that is true to be fair but probably doesn't represent everyone. I know I've learned amazing moves from watching adult entertainment but I also think I'm never going to get to use those things because of how rare getting into an intimate relationship really is.

if I want a girlfriend who is beautiful, and intelligent, and has good health and personality, and isn't brainwashed, and isn't a gold digger that just wants to marry and divorce to rape me in court and take away my house and all my money and my dog, I and pretty much every other guy are shit out of luck. It's not happening. might as well stay a virgin forever. we can't meet our equals because everyone is shit.

Anyone else's vision fucking up lately? It's the weirdest shit; every now and then my vision, like, flashes scanlines or whatever so it's like I'm looking through an old TV. Am I breaking the sim or should I quit role-playing for a second and see a doctor?

I have two thoughts on this matter

Firstly the odds of us being in a simulation are painfully high, assuming our reality is modelled after the outside reality, intelligent life is stupidly rare. Within the observable universe the number of planets that can harbour life is pathetic. But now consider how many simulations we as a species have made in the past 20 years.

Sure our simulations aren't as smart as us, but they soon will be, and each simulation will be as conscious as those who made it. When you factor in that we can make millions within a year, and compare that to the low number of intelligent lifeforms in the universe, it becomes glaringly obvious that life is more likely than not, a simulation.

And my second thought on the matter is that it really doesn't matter.

If this is a simulation there isn't anything we can do about it, this isn't like the Matrix, it's like the Sims, yet referring to us as digital life seems shallow, so the best way to look at it, in my opinion is to refer to them as separate layers of reality, of which we can only effect those below us. To the layers of reality above us, of which there could theoretically be an infinite amount, we are nothing but sparks and circuits that our software interprets as life, the same as we see something like AI in a game. Any thinking about the subject is time wasted, because either we are or we aren't, and if we are we weren't created to fully comprehend the layers of reality above us, and if we aren't then it's a fruitless endeavour.

>>33023

Cool friggin' beans, I can't wait.