/x/ - Paranormal

yeah, can't wait for it, really

Solar storms, gamma ray bursts, asteroid impact, wandering black holes - the universe is creepy alright.

>>29555

>>29559

I don't think so, kids. Radiation poisoning is a horrible, horrible way to die.

>>29565

God will save us all!

By mutating us into battletoads I'm sure of it.

>>29565

i would kym before that happens tho

>>29572

kms*

>>29574

It's not really nature's fault that we have built a civilisation that's so vulnerable to solar storms. A pre-industrial society would have nothing to fear from them.

>>29575

we would be vulnerable to global scale radioactive poisoning even if we didn't have civilization

>>29584

The radioactive poisoning in this case would come from the fact that hundreds of atomic power plants around the world would stop working all at once.

>>29549

And this is why the current policy of "no more nuclear plants" is so stupid. In order to ban new nuclear plant construction, they added the requirement that any design submitted be "provably 100% safe under all conditions". That is, of course, not possible, not for a nuclear plant, not for a coal plant, not for your car, not for a washing machine, not for getting out of bed in the morning. Nor can we shut down existing plants, because we need the power. So we keep running along with 30 and 40 year old reactors, all designed the same and approved way back when. Meaning they need an outside source of power for cooling water. We could have much, much safer modern designs, like molten salt reactors, or thorium designs, which are difficult if not impossible to "melt down", and some types can burn the waste from old style reactors. We could have plenty of cheap, safe, non-fossil-fuel-using electricity to get us by until practical fusion plants are possible (at that point, our ability to generate energy becomes essentially unlimited). But no, fucking hippies who don't understand how life or science works want us all to run around unbathed spreading STD's and smoking ganja.

>>29586

The reason we don't use thorium is not because of "hippies", it's because thorium is cleaner than uranium and the military wouldn't be able to use radioactive waste for their weapons if we used thorium. Anyway, the smart thing to do would have been to never build atomic power plants in the first place, and to switch to a system that doesn't require constant growth. Our energy consumption keeps going up, which is mathematically, physically not a sustainable strategy [1]. At some point we will be forced to stop growing, and it won't be pretty. If we're lucky, a solar storm will wipe us all out before that happens.

[1] http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2011/07/galactic-scale-energy/

>>29549

Is this why elites are building bunkers?

>>29612

This is why I've bought an old farm and built a bunker under the barn.

this is why I love using energy all day BRING ON THE END TO THIS FILTHY PLANET MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

>>29612

I think they're more worried about civil war, they realise shit could hit the fan soon and they don't want to be there when it happens.

>>29624

Sorry but if hundreds of atomic power plants all had a meltdown tomorrow, your bunker wouldn't save you. Radiation levels would become deadly pretty much everywhere. The whole planet would be Chernobyl, except there would be no-one to fix it. That's why this scenario is so scary.

>>29586

sure dumbass shill, blame the hippies who eat organic and vegan and avoid fluoride and don't trust the government and the media and it's lies. blame the only people awake enough to know what is going on and insult them with a stereotype while your at it. fucking retard.

Go read On The Beach and get your cyanide pills ready. No level of bunker will enable survival. Get to the moon, or GTFO. Solar storm might also kill you on the moon.

Has no one brought up how void coefficients work?

>>30904

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>>30905

Basically it's not as simple as "coolant lost reactor meltdown." If the reactor has a positive void coefficient, then when coolant is lost its reactivity will increase. (see: chernobyl). If it has a negative void coefficient then when coolant is lost reactivity will decrease.

HOWEVER, if there's some coolant just sitting around inside the reactor without the pumps working, that can lead to a meltdown for both types.

>>30926

Okay, thanks for explaining. But since we're talking about 440 power plants, the chances that we're all going to die are still quite high, right?

>>30928

I think it's less of a problem in newer reactors and western countries because i believe most of them have modest negative void coefficients and sit in such away that in the event of a power failure the water drains away from them, but this is just from memory so I may need to research a bit to see if I'm right.

Basically what I'm saying is saying all 440 will meltdown for certain if/when a solar storm hits may be a bit of a stretch. Partial meltdowns, however, could still be an issue.

>>29588

Well, that and throium is so corrosive there's no real way to build a reactor that would last worth a damn.

>>30687

Solar storm would definitely kill you on the moon, since there's not even a thin sheet of atmosphere to save you.

>all the nuclear power plants are gonna blow up!

the only people that think this are 90 year old ladies and actual children. Do you think hacking can make your computer blow up too? That disaster happened because of a series of problems, not just because they lost power to pumps.

Dont believe everything you see on the Simpsons. Nuclear power so far has a pretty good track record. Hell, the US Navy has been using it for how long with no problems? Of all the fucking things to worry about, the nuclear power plants that are nowhere around me are nothing to lose sleep over. Also how in the fuck hell is every plant melting down going to kill us all???

You mean from the resulting chimpout when niggers cant use their EBT cards because of the power loss?

>>30982

>You mean from the resulting chimpout when niggers cant use their EBT cards because of the power loss?

I forgot about that. Maybe solar storms are worse than I thought.

>>29549

Just do like everyone else does, go about your life as if nothing is ever going to happen to anything.

If you start letting every little thing that can happen frighten you, then you will be as paralyzed as that deer in the headlights.

Solar storms, gamma ray bursts, comets, asteroids, nukes, earthquakes, plagues, terrorists, etc….

Quite frankly, you could get hit by a car while out shopping for groceries. Stay inside and you'd probably succumb to Radon or carbon monoxide or home invasion.

When your number is up, it is up. If we're meant to get hit by a solar storm, C'est La Vie. There is absolutely, positively nothing that can prevent it, stop it, or take care of its aftermath. Period. It hits, we die. simple.

So relax, have a beer, tell friends you love them, hug your kids, have that hamburger or steak, smell those flowers.

Life's a stupid joke and death's the punchline, so get out there and soak up some sun!

>>30510

Is this bait? I can't tell anymore.

Life After People

Wonderful mini-series on TV discussed what would happen when the reactors are left unattended. The bigger problem is the spent rods. They have to be kept in cool circulating water. Without people, eventually the water stops getting pumped through, heats up, evaporates, the rods are exposed to the air, start to burn, and huge radioactive clouds enter the atmosphere.

Don't worry though. Most people will have been killed by the riots, looting, and suicides from not being able to Facebook every two minutes by that time.

That pretty much is the good side of it all, getting to see all the i-People jumping, dying first, or morosely staring at a small blank screen and crying as they walk into the rivers and oceans never to be seen again…. ah, sweetness.