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 No.26498

In my life I learned that science is as much a religion as religions are a religion, and as religion in its limited perception of the universe is imperfect; therefore so is science.

I'm presenting this from a the standpoint of someone with an enlightened "take a step back after considering everything without truly believing any of it" perspective. I'm not 100% loyal to religion or science at this point in my life. they can and do overlap between the lies.

https://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Firmament

http://biologos.org/blogs/archive/the-fir mament-of-genesis-1-is-solid-but-that’s-not-the-point

http://www.kjvbible.org/firmament .html

http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-7 .htm

space is a giant ocean

that's why astronaughts train underwater

algea was found on the international space station

if space was a giant near-vacume (low pressure compared to everything else) our planet couldn't sustain it's atmosphere. just think about how foolish it sounds when they tell you "oh its because gravity holds all the air down") if space is a vacume or near-vacume then all of the earths air would have been vacumed up into space instantly. there is nothing stopping it from doing that.

think about how resilliant a bubble of air is under water. did you ever see a bubble at the bottom of a glass of water you were drinking? did you ever think "wow bubbles are pretty badass for holding up under all that water". It makes much more sense that we are a giant air bubble in a giant ocean of water.

 No.26499

File: 5baeb22c9544193⋯.png (1.38 MB, 1294x952, 647:476, 423454342236.png)

think about why the ocean looks blue when the sun shines through it. think about how the sky is also blue, makes sense? and troll science bro's with big fancy pieces of paper from the establishment claim "its rayleigh scattering, and the sky isn't actually blue it just looks blue but it isn't because reyliegh scattering just trust us"

every single image of earth from space release by nasa has always been a composite image. they will never release a true non-edited picture of earth from space.

go back and watch any video of a rocket takeoff. why do ALL the rockets always go upwards for a moment and then start to veer off course and curve off the side? they can't keep going straight up because they will hit the water and if they go much deeper they will crash right into the firmament. they always curve to avoid it. ALWAYS. the rockets always land somewhere else out of sight or people are told it's just a retrieval of parts, but you know what the truth is.

bible mentions "the waters above and below"

the whole world is a flat dome shape that doesn't move. the earth is fixed in place and doesn't move. if the earth was spinning as fast as they say it is, we would have been launched off of it.

look up operation highjump and operation fishbowl. they nuked the firmament to test if they could break it.

they only thing that every country on earth ever agreed on and never broke their promise, as they all promised together, was to leave antarctica alone. the north pole is the center of the landmass and the south pole is actually a giant ring around the outer edges of the earth. it's illegal to fly there without permission (almost nobody ever gets that permission) and so it is conveniently incredibly difficult to prove or disprove this once and for all. what a coincidence.

anyone who has ever gone to the tallest skyscraper and looked 360 degrees all around the horizon will notice that it is always flat and never curved even at that hight, when it should be.

ancient pyramids and stone structures are found all over the world with similar architechture and impossible standards of perfection

the whole world is atlantis and that's why we can't find it, because we are standing on it.

bible says that God created the sun, and the moon, and the stars. they are mentioned seperately.

stars are not suns that are far away, they are something else.

all ancient records religions or otherwise all remember the great flood, but doesn't even matter because we were always under water anyway.

all kinds of very closely related pyramids and structures all over the entire world that defy explanation come from the same group of people.

God sent the flood to destroy the previous Globalist society, and God promised with the rainbow that God would never send a flood again.

the whole world was the tower of babel, and now CERN is the new tower of babel. they want to/ claim to have found the "godparticle"/higgs boson. they want to believe they can control God, and they worship the false idol "destroyer" statue at CERN.

Globalism/ the goal of the global elite cult is "the tower of babel"

links to other people talking about similar things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/eu-parliament-building-tower-babel-common/

http://www.texemarrs.com/011998/un_builds_tower_babel.htm

http://yournewswire.com/is-cerns-large-hadron-collider-the-modern-tower-of-babel/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8KTzGHQFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjcggsxKeqY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2iSwEMJ_-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56YW8FhKyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifxXEtT41iU

this is why they are "happy" at CERN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Lt9yUf-VY

because they think they are winning by making the bernstein/berenstain effect


 No.26500

what does /x/ think?


 No.26519

>>26500

There's a thread on pol with a bunch of good flat earth vids at the end.


 No.26520

>>26519

Also silicon trees and Norse Cosmology are true


 No.26551

>>26519

>doesn't link thread

>>26520

what do you mean

what are silicon trees?


 No.26557

>>26551

Some people believe that once upon a time, trees grew up to be 60km tall, and that most mountains are actually the petrified remains of those trees.


 No.26581

when God destroyed the world with the flood to destroy the globalist empire this is also when God changed everyones languages. with the technology available now, translation is becoming extremely easy. we are at a point where the global elite cult is rebuilding the lost empire, where everyone can get past not being able to speak each others languages, and a world in which they control what they believe is the "god particle" even though they are misled to believe they have found anything important at all. the vast majority of all mandela effects witnessed by people who notice the differece (the people named "the unforgotten" who have the "reading steiner" from steins;gate and hold memories after the shift/shifts) are changes of corporations, their brand names, and their logos. I believe that this may be God challenging the global elite cult by showing them that their logo's are false idols and mean nothing. there have also been changes to the bible, and I believe that this is indicative of God telling people that the word of God comes straight from God, and not a book. I believe that they next step may possibly include mandela effects changing money.

political and corporate groups are without a doubt aware of this phenomena, as hillary clinton mentioned feeling like she is in an alternate universe in the same video where she opens the supposedly "pre-opened" pickle jar to prove to millions of people she isn't very very sick


 No.26583

>>26557

that's an amazing legend


 No.26584

>>26557

do you have links and other sources on this? I want to know more, this sounds just so extremely cool.


 No.26590

>In my life I learned that science is as much a religion as religions are a religion, and as religion in its limited perception of the universe is imperfect; therefore so is science.

Religion is a subset of science (or more accurately the scientific method) in that it relies on empirical information for a faith based system to form. If you can believe that the words you're reading in a book are true and consistent, you believe in empirical data. If you believe in empirical data, you de-facto believe in the scientific method.

Ergo religion is a subset of science.

However information control is an entirely different matter, and on that basis you could make these arguments as no one single human being could collate and personally test every single scientific fact against the scientific method, leading to belief in the knowledge of others as truth given in much the same way that religious truths are given. This is where the problem stems from and where science starts sitting too close to religion for there to be any purely logical distinction, however science as an idea created by the logic of man is above religion.

Just an important distinction to make to avoid any further spread of ignorance on the issue


 No.26596

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>26583

Sorry, I should have been more clear. It's not a legend, it's more like a really weird alternative history.

>>26584

This is the video that made me aware of this theory.

>>26590

Everything relies on empirical information in the form of sensory input, but science relies on empirical evidence and research, which is a different thing. Religious people don't deny the existence of the physical world, but unlike scientists they also believe in a metaphysical one. It also seems weird to claim that religion is a subset of science, when the former is a lot older than the latter.


 No.26691

>>26596

she never said who or what cut down the silicon trees or where all the mined material went


 No.26795

File: 665b1b3854e6d78⋯.jpg (31.65 KB, 608x607, 608:607, b4c4b7ac8f721155a0baa3320c….jpg)

Get this garbage out of here, firestarter media.


 No.27479

>>26596

That one was of the worst videos I have ever seen. The amount of dis-information and leaps and bound in their logic is crazy. I looked up the wikipedia articles and they clearly didn't even read what they said about it. If someone believes this without doing any research of their own is very stupid. Do they not think that if you were to visit these locations that you would not be able to tell that it was rock? They even said themselves that wood and trees being petrified is fake and nonsensical, so how would one explain that it is made out of rock? If trees were to get to this size anyway how could if find the proper nutrients so survive and grow to that height? I did not watch the whole thing so I don't know if they answered that question but in the half hour that I watched this is one the worst conspiracy videos out there. Flat Earthers make better claims than this.


 No.27487

>>26691

It's implied that it was ancient aliens.

>>27479

Petrified trees do exist, it's due to a phenomenon called mineralisation I think. I'm not saying I agree with the theory, but the point is that the only reason we don't recognise those trees as such is their unbelievable size.


 No.27500

>>26795

why do you think firestarter media is jewish exactly?


 No.27502

File: baee37e09d38bee⋯.jpg (692.94 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, CerroAutanaNorthExposure.jpg)

>>26584

The tepui, according to several local native mythologies, are the remnant stumps of the tree of life.


 No.27514

>>27502

silicon trees from before the kikes came to earth


 No.27530

>>26499

>the ocean is blue and the sky is blue

>makes sense?

It's funny how when water is outside it's blue but when you take it inside it's clear


 No.27550

>>26498

>In my life I learned that science is as much a religion as religions are a religion

It's not, and that means you clearly need to go back to school. Kill yourself.


 No.29034

>>27550

Not sure if bait and not OP, but if you can't see at least a few similarities or are unwilling to draw connections then perhaps /x/ isn't your bag.


 No.29049

File: 40d305f4d1cd049⋯.jpg (81.94 KB, 780x569, 780:569, 8hNVxPb.jpg)

>>26498

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/aug/21/sea-plankton-have-been-found-on-the-international-space-station-but-how-did-they-get-there

>He said the marine micro-organisms were not native to blast-off site Kazakhstan, and may have been “uplifted” to the station at an altitude of 420km.

>420km


 No.29053

Space is not an ocean, dipshit. It's a empty space, which is different from a void.


 No.29054

Also, Flat Earth theory is completely wrong and retarded.


 No.29055

I mean… do you even know how Foucault's Pendulum works?


 No.29057

The bubble is electromagnetic. The void is full of photons, a literal sea of light, we are well balanced on our iron rock.


 No.29079

>>29054

I spent most of my life thinking the same thing, then decided to debunk it because it would not go away…..

Lets just say that the more you look in to it the deeper it gets.


 No.29097

>>29079

So if the earth is indeed flat, why do you get more daylight in the summer and vice versa in the winter the further from the equator you go?


 No.29100

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>29079

Flat Earth Theory Status: Rekt


 No.29148

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>29054

I spent most of my life thinking the same thing, then decided to debunk it because it would not go away…..

Lets just say that the more you look in to it the deeper it gets.>>29097

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8>>29097

This animation shows a possible model that makes sense on a non ball earth.


 No.29149

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>29100

Nice.

Good visuals in this video too, and most anything Hollywood throws at us to do with space or sci-fi is now hyper realistic.


 No.29155

>>29148

Under that model you'd see significant changes in the amount of daylight close to the equator as well as away from it, which is not the case.

Try again, flatfag.


 No.29162

>>29155

ok, here's another one to ponder. Curvature of the earth explained by atmospheric lensing. Skip to the 10min mark if you just want to see the demonstration of the effect (references Toronto Sky Tower meme) he reproduces it on his table top at around 11 min.


 No.29163

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>>29162

Sorry forgot to embed


 No.29170

Hey, so I just wanted to correct some stuff that OP said about vacuums.

The reason that the near-vacuum of space doesn't "suck up" our atmosphere is because in a sense vacuums actually never really "suck up" anything on their own. The whole saying that nature abhors a vacuum is actually misleading, and suggests that matter is driven by some special force to fill empty space. This is not why vacuums suck matter.

All liquids and gases are composed of molecules moving around. These molecules constantly collide with one another, and therefore tend to want to disperse just based on their random motion. If you fill a sealed container up with oxygen, the molecules will collide with each other and the container walls. If you then somehow instantly add more space to the chamber, say by opening an empty compartment, the oxygen will seemingly "be sucked into" the new empty space, as if the vacuum is pulling the oxygen. What's actually happening is that the oxygen is sort of pushed that way by the oxygen's own pressure, as the random motion of the molecules ends up bouncing them into the vacant space until the pressure is roughly equal. The pressure is always fluctuating slightly in a fluid, and equalizing the pressure is not a goal for the molecules, but a necessary outcome of their random motion.

Let me talk about drinking straws for a second to make sure I got the point across. Water in a glass is constantly being bombarded randomly by air molecules. In fact, everything is being struck by air molecules in basically all directions, and that's air pressure. So when you put a straw in a glass of water, the air inside the straw is pressing against the water just as the air around the straw is pressing against the rest of the water's surface. When you suck on that sexy thing, you remove the air from inside the straw, but not from around the straw at the rest of the water's surface. This causes the atmospheric pressure to work on the rest of the surface, but not the inside of the straw, which results in the water being compressed by the air and forced up the straw, the path of least resistance, into your horny mouth. In essence, the vacuum does not pull the water up the straw, the air pressure above the glass pushes the water up the straw.

The reason the atmosphere does not escape into space is because gravity is pulling it toward the earth. There is no force that would cause it to escape into space other than the atmosphere's own kinetic energy, which actually has and does cause gases to escape the atmosphere, mainly the lighter ones like hydrogen which are less affected by gravity. It is not remotely foolish to believe in the atmosphere, and I highly recommend you read up on physics to learn more.


 No.29171

>>29170

How dare you bring science and logic into a perfectly good flat earth thread? Shame on you!


 No.29185

nice shilling attempts. desperate for attention.


 No.29191

>>29171

None of that stuff matters. Spherical trigonometry proves the earth to be flat, because we can see things from distances where they should be below our line of view if the earth was round (for example, lighthouses from 50 miles away). Math, the hardest science, proves the earth flat.

I must say, I was shocked when I read about that. It took a while until that information soldified in my brain; perhaps I haven't fully accepted it yet. So many years I and everyone else have been lied to, how could it have happened? How could such a lie spread unopposed? But it's true - we really live on a flat earth.


 No.29194

How can the earth be flat if it's hollow? Checkmate, flat earthers.


 No.29195

>>29191

You can see a lighthouse that's 50 (and more) miles away if you're high enough above the earth's surface. This page has a nice table that explains the relationship between height and distance.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/15/how-far-away-is-the-horizon/


 No.29282

>>29163

>atmosphere is made up of drops of water

Stopped watching right there.

Water vapor does not form drops, because surface tension, the force that causes the formation of droplets, is a property of liquids, not of gasses.

Also, refraction only happens when light passes between mediums, such as from air to water in the classic broken straw observation.

>muh atmospheric particles

That gives you clouds, and any time water droplets form around those it turns into some form of precipitation, not a giant magnifying glass that plays tricks on our eyes.


 No.29295

ITT:

Idiots who don't know how anything works .


 No.29314

>>29295

How would _you_ know how everything works?

Have you ever been to space?


 No.29490

File: 0ce5bad1ce65a76⋯.jpg (34 KB, 479x338, 479:338, AA.jpg)


 No.30322

File: 2436b776dcc94bd⋯.png (12.46 KB, 255x255, 1:1, 7ce7447ed1870e664c18a0534a….png)

>>26581

God must be stopped


 No.30323

File: 5fa33695fb42b05⋯.jpg (112.78 KB, 890x668, 445:334, 1488028915327.jpg)

>>29314

Have you ever seen Jesus? have you ever seen God? Have you ever caught a good guy, like a real superhero?


 No.30326

>>29314

I'm moving through space right now, kiddo. What you gonna do about it? Yeah, that's what I thought.


 No.30337

Earth isn't flat, you're just being manipulated by a psyop that has been lying dormant for decades waiting to be unleashed for when people started getting a bit to clever for their own good. It can sound very convincing I'll give you that as many people have been sucked into it, good honest people. You can go on a plane yourself and see the curvature, don't buy into the "warped glass" bullshit. Take a camera, film some reference points on the ground to show a straight angle then film in the air. If you draw a line over the picture/film you will see it yourself. This is a very big crowd that has basically exploded over the last few years and it is totally intentional. They prey on the ignorant who are either to lazy to do the experiments themselves or are just unable to for whatever reasons. All those flat earth maps in the background of media, the UN flag and other such symbolism are entirely intentional.

Now with that said it is true that many treat science as a type of religion (9/11 NIST report, not peer reviewed but taken as fact. Definition of non-science, easiest example) and NASA is very likely full of shit for at least the information that is released to us common folk. Space *might* have the water element depending how deep you want to go with the firmament thing and I entertain it just for the Lunar Wave phenomena (it might be bunk but its almost predictable and mutiple people have captured it, don't think the same event have been captured by mutiple people though). The moon itself is very fucky as it emits its own cooling light, which you can do an experiment with yourself (this would also account to why meat rots if you attempt to cure it in the moonlight), the whole "moon reflects the sunlight" gimmick seems to be totally false. If they're lying about that, what else are they lying about right? Also could be the electric universe thing which a lot of people seem to be buying into, I'm not to educated on the subject matter myself though past the basics but information is out there.

Its debatable if we have even left this prison planet, at this point after over a decade down the rabbit that we've either never been to the Moon or we have people on it right now, Mars as well and god knows where else. Where else would all that black project money that i just whisked off into the night go to? You can only spend so much on the military complex and human trafficking, although it could just all go straight into underground bases.

Either way OP step back from the flat earth thing, plenty of shit you can waste your time on researching but you'll go no where with FE, its a giant echo chamber that relies on /b/ level shitflinging to keep its viewer base. I've found most people who push it are either hardcore scripture guys (which are entertaining for that) or the types who push the same bullshit out and spend more time insulting other people "LOLSODUMBBALLESTLOL" over anything else. Its unproductive. I'd bet money on the Earth being hollow way before being flat. Do research on that topic and see where it gets you. Its riveting stuff.

Its not unintentional that people who get deep into the FE think only of the FE, it consumes people like some kind of demon. Not because of the grand conspiracy and they're in the know, but manipulation.


 No.30379

>>30337

Actually, the universe is in actuality completely flat.

Space is bent, so we have the illusion of round.

Try wrapping your flat head around that!


 No.30409

File: 2c723e97c90e9cb⋯.webm (753.29 KB, 720x576, 5:4, FE - rocketinspace.webm)

>>26498

> if space is a vacume or near-vacume then all of the earths air would have been vacumed up into space instantly. there is nothing stopping it from doing that.

Exactly and not only that but the science behind how rockets are supposed to work in a vacuum doesn't make any sense.

Think about it, they claim that based on the 3rd Law of Newton, you can get a reaction force but they don't tell where that reaction force comes from. If we push against against a giant vacuum space, can we expect it to push us back?

This non-sense is very well illustrated in this webm


 No.30410

File: 0ab2ffb63cc2ca7⋯.webm (1.16 MB, 720x576, 5:4, FE - scubatank in space.webm)

>>26498

>algea was found on the international space station

This is a private joke between hoaxers, they love to rub it into the public's face.

There is no ISS, everything is made in their giant neutral buoyancy pool at the bottom of which the real ISS is seated.

This is hinted by all the bubbles visible in NASA spacewalks and in that specific one I attached you can even see a scuba tank appearing out of nowhere during a spacewalk, a specific model used by their technicians working in the giant pool.


 No.30411

>>26499

on the topic of the liquid above and blue sky.

You may want to watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNmj-JmrR8

When the rocket reaches 250,000ft, temperature reads -358F, that's way below the point of oxygen and hydrogen liquefaction, meaning that rocket could actually be in a sea of liquid oxygen at this point which would explain why it stopped spinning and climbing without even going through a deceleration phase.


 No.30412

>>30411

forgot to add that liquid oxygen "coincidentally" is pale blue like the sky.


 No.30414

>>30337

The only psy-op is the globe, globalists depend on it. Follow the money


 No.30415

>>30409

They move forward because they propel matter backwards causing them to be pushed away. That's why it's called fucking propellent you dumb cunt.


 No.30446

>>30415

> because they propel matter backwards causing them to be pushed away

That doesn't work when you propel matter into a vacuum because you get no reaction force.

According to Newton 3rd Law of motion

>This means that for every force there is a reaction force that is equal in size, but opposite in direction. That is to say that whenever an object pushes another object it gets pushed back in the opposite direction equally hard.

This means a rocket's action is to push down on the ground/air with the force of its powerful engines, and the reaction is that the ground/air pushes the rocket upwards with an equal force.

Without the vacuum, the toy in the clip moves forward consistently with Newtons law but as soon as you apply a vacuum all the thrust is spent without any reaction force and the toy won't move.


 No.30525

>>30446

Your video has the guy SUCKING AWAY the air being pushed out of the balloon. I understand you might be functionally retarded but vacuum cleaner and vacuum are not the same thing.

Fuck man you don't even have to look far for actual examples simple enough that even you dipshits will understand. Youtube is full of vacuum chamber videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du0opEpGQtA has a can of soda on its side explode in a vacuum and you can see it propel itself with the ejected soda. This is exactly how rockets work: they propel (take the hint) matter out the back, ignited by fuel. Space doesn't magically suck that matter away and negate the motion.

Jesus fucking Christ.


 No.30544

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 No.30547

>>30379

Are you saying we're all 2D characters?


 No.30601

>Any theory implying "Earth"

t. Flat American


 No.30603

>Any theory implying "Earth."

t. Flat American


 No.30670

>>26498

Yeah I've seen this exact same thread on /fringe/.

Only retarded autist would indulge your nonsense.




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