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File: a722d51bf4a3fff⋯.png (442.11 KB, 710x568, 5:4, 1589008552611.png)

d7378d  No.16935110[Last 50 Posts]

let's all thank Jim and Ron for contributing for normalization of this bullshit

if you have to look up nerd game wikis to claim the picture is child porn it is not child porn period

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35db8f  No.16935117

>>16935110

what faggots…

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1e16db  No.16935166

Remember when nerds used to cheer as their hobbies became popular? This is what you get.

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15a85b  No.16935174

>>16935166

>Remember when nerds used to cheer as their hobbies became popular?

lmao no?

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0bde35  No.16935181

Since when did nerd shit entail pandering to pedo scum? Many fantasy and sci-fi books, shows, comics and games did not do this. Funnily enough, only weeb shit. So its a Nip issue and even then, a small one as most stuff doesn't feature the cringe inducing pedo bait.

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2cfd75  No.16935182

>>16935174

Yeah, there was a time. Insecure 20-somethings desperate for validation of their hobby so they didn't have to feel like such shitheels for liking either grotesque murder sims or kid's toys. They were desperate for games to be "art" and to be taken seriously by the wider culture, and jumped at the chance for games to catch on with the wider market and be accepted like movies. I remember getting "don't be a gatekeeper" lectures as far back as 2006. All of this progressive shit came from the inside, ultimately. Outside forces preyed on people's insecurities to further their own goals as the medium grew more popular, but dorks either just wanting to not be punching bags for parent/religious groups or desperate to sit at the cool kids table are the ones who invited them in with open arms.

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10bc72  No.16935183

>>16935181

this erroneous line of thought is the reason that things are completely and totally fucked up in the world today. this entire post stinks of outrage bait. You preach like a faggot and there's an implication that if i disagree with you that i'm somehow supporting pedophilia. I'm not. let me establish that. and nobody is who draws the line in the sand at this kind of censorship. I dont support nip or weeb games. In reality japan has a lower child molestation rate than the UK where the laws regarding this material are arguably the worst and most strict. things like this are an outlet at WORST for the people who might actually be pedophiles. what actually are the consequences of allowing this mod or others like it to continue to exist other than it continuing to offend you and others like yourself? you should be upset on principle that this kind of thing continues to happen. these are pixels. its imaginary. what's the worst thing you've ever thought up in your stupid little head? I bet it's worse than this.

none of this shit makes sense. nobody is making you use the mod. nobody is forcing you to play the base game in an altered manner. how is this pandering to pedos?

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15a85b  No.16935184

File: c74ffb64dbcfb95⋯.png (80.34 KB, 344x344, 1:1, Manlet_Spy.png)

>>16935182

What in the good fuck are you even talking about?

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3bc286  No.16935185

File: 116fbb2e537b16c⋯.jpg (192.12 KB, 968x681, 968:681, front_huddersfield_groomin….jpg)

File: 662bcdb338f4ebd⋯.jpg (51.02 KB, 380x265, 76:53, england_4.jpg)

>>16935183

>In reality japan has a lower child molestation rate than the UK where the laws regarding this material are arguably the worst and most strict.

Those laws only apply to white men, and Japan doesn't have roving gangs of "Asians". The argument is still valid, but I'd like the see the numbers at least corrected to account for England's Muslim cuckoldry.

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9a4f66  No.16935186

>>16935182

I'm a 44y/o gen x faggot so I can tell you from first-hand experience living through 4 decades of vidya history that you're talking out of your ass.

The hobby became mainstream around '75, before I was even born. By 2006 gaming was already a multi-billion dollar industry, the PS2 sold about as many units as the entire population of Japan.

Gamers were never the ones that wanted gaming to be taken seriously as an art forum, that was journalists and sometimes devs/publishers. The average gamer didn't and still doesn't care.

Your post and its weird tangents sounds like projection maximum.

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1e04ff  No.16935188

>>16935181

Go away /pol/.

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0f13e7  No.16935189

File: f7b84004efeafb6⋯.mp4 (47.67 KB, 140x140, 1:1, mp4.mp4)

Aww, iz de iddy widdy pewo in dewail angwy?

I don't care either way. If real cp is deemed socially unacceptable, any media portraying it should be too. The West made the choice long ago.

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412d2e  No.16935210

>>16935110

So what was the mod?

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b5e57c  No.16935221

The funny thing is that she ain't no fucking loli and has the basic body type and face of typical anime chicks.

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c68c6e  No.16935235

File: 0930bbc2b85485e⋯.jpg (76.9 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 3517909_youngblood_01.jpg)

File: 683beacdda5a913⋯.jpg (673.03 KB, 3840x2160, 16:9, Wolfenstein_Youngblood_201….jpg)

File: 45531f4c3e43fee⋯.jpg (127.8 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1144.jpg)

>>16935221

that's the point, this is a form of "protectionism" they won't do this to any of the ugly western shit. (well, at some point they will citing the "male gaze" and its wrong to sexualize any strong female that don't need no man) but the point is all anime/manga now can fall under this shitty rule. they will continue to move the goalpost until everything is at the standard of mk11 or gay Wolfenstein and last of us 2: dykes vs trannys, this also shows us the tumblr fixing anime meme wasn't just a meme after all.

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68da47  No.16935237

>>16935189

>drawings are real people

Have a (you)

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5b3651  No.16935241

>no archive

>no transcript

>no idea what the mod even fucking does

Please learn to post. And try to ignore the D&C in this thread. Man this board is completely fucked now

That said, this is completely absurd given that the outfit shown in the image is in the vanilla fucking game. What is in the mod, the trampstamp?

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5b3651  No.16935243

File: 45eec449f6e7736⋯.png (448.04 KB, 1272x627, 424:209, NonNude_TrialsofMana_Mod_R….png)

File: 568455f8e6ba6a0⋯.jpg (222 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, NonNude_TrialsofMana_Mod_R….jpg)

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File: a47a051e905c0d5⋯.png (167.8 KB, 998x627, 998:627, NonNude_TrialsofMana_Mod_R….png)

Here OP, let me do your job for you. This is from Sankaku Complex by the way.

>NexusMods has seemingly kowtowed to modern day politics as the video game modding site has expunged a Trials of Mana mod – one that removed a little bit of clothing and didn’t even make the character nude – and claimed it “sexualized a minor”.

>The mod page apparently contained a few things for users to toy around with and a screenshot indicated that the page was hidden from other users due to it violating the site’s Terms of Service; the message noted that the mod violated the rule regarding the sexualization of minors and that the only character in the game above the age of 18 is Angela (image 1)

>The mod for Riesz (said to be 16, according to the Japanese Wikipedia page as character ages don’t seem to be listed in-game) was considered the problematic one, despite it only removing a belt and some frills and adding a tattoo (image 2)

>A conversation with some of the moderation staff of NexusMods via Discord revealed that the platform is attempting to adhere to “UK law guidelines” (even though the characters are fictional), with one mentally unstable moderator predictably seeing fictional underage girls and real underage girls as one and the same (images 3, 4, 5)

>Not even the modding community is safe from those attempting to conflate fiction and reality as the same thing, with such insufferable puritans seemingly invading every hobby and niche in an attempt to control creative freedom.

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c68c6e  No.16935249

File: 4356d850745897b⋯.png (249.66 KB, 710x399, 710:399, b031592aee2ac6b5cbce037267….png)

>>16935241

> this is completely absurd given that the outfit shown in the image is in the vanilla fucking game.

do you have eyes? look at her fucking gut! the mod removed the belt and added a womb tattoo.

>Womb Tattoo

A Womb Tattoo, or Inmon 淫紋 (lit "lewd crest" or "sexual demon tattoo"), is a tattooed crest or magical rune located on a character's crotch or lower stomach that, as a trope, indicates sexual power emanating from or being forced upon the character. As a trope, the presence of an inmon on a character's body signifies that the character is incredibly lewd and erotic, sexually powerful, or has a curse or magical power influencing them into being lewder than normal.

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5b3651  No.16935250

>>16935243

Just now reading this Dicksword trannyscript.

>rules are rules

>=/

>JUST FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES GOYIM AND STOP ARGUING

>b-but all video game characters are fictional (how the fuck is that even relevant)

>we'll just have to agree to disagree and by that I mean I'm right and you're wrong so this mod is being taken down anyway

By their logic they should just take the whole game off the website. She is already sexualized by the outfit. The mod just removes negligible amounts of clothing.

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5b3651  No.16935251

>>16935249

Then it shouldn't matter since apparently this website is operating under UK culture rules and what you just described is exclusive to Japanese culture, proof being that I had no idea what the fuck that meant before you posted it.

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5b3651  No.16935253

>>16935249

>>16935251

By the way what you described is a fetish. That is similar to saying that any mod removing Riesz's shoes is illegal because it sexualized her for foot fetishists.

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0f13e7  No.16935255

>>16935237

>photos are real people

Let me just commit suicide by deleting a picture of myself.

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68da47  No.16935259

File: 8d667cd32689e05⋯.png (6.6 KB, 500x250, 2:1, Oekaki.png)

>>16935255

>drawings are photos

I guess i should be banned for this

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7f5f2b  No.16935260

>>16935255

Reminder every time someone defends a loli, a real pedo comes out of the woods with his snarky comment.

Demand creates supply, nigger.

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0f13e7  No.16935261

>>16935260

>hurr durr ad hominem

>cant defend cp without being a pedo

Oh you so deserve every attack, mob and deplatforming that will come your way. Ron was right to ban hypocrite lolifags.

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0f13e7  No.16935263

>>16935259

>moving goalposts

Nice try. Nobody said drawings were photos. Looking at a photo and a drawing does exactly the same amount of harm. Either you ban none or both.

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68da47  No.16935264

>>16935261

Want to know how I know you don't belong here?

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c68c6e  No.16935265

>>16935260

demand for what? the outfit is already skimpy as fuck. its a fucking bikini you numb skull.

>>16935261

stop arguing with your sockpuppet you schizophrenic yid.

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e9c24a  No.16935266

>>16935110

<hurrdurr sexualising Angela is OK but Ryez is a minor hurrdurr even though they look exactly the same

>Be a modder

>see this kind of retardation

>tweak you mods so that any lewd character skin also change all mentions of age in the lore to 18 or above

>even the loli is justified because canonically she's 15 but looks like a child because she's half elf

dear god can people be retarded, i would understand it if they just targeted the loli, or all females with no distinction, but to base your targeting on something as random as canon ages in the plot is apex stupidity

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5b3651  No.16935268

>>16935266

Yes, exactly. You could successfully eradicate every loli image on the planet. Then someone will just take a pic of an existing 18 year old anime girl and write a paragraph of fetish ero text about how they're actually 16. What the fuck even is the point? The only logical solution is to eradicate all anime and manga art on the planet. Which is what I believe anti-loli fags want. The art is too simplistic in almost every case to be able to tell the age of a character just by visual interpretation. Often the margin of error is more than 10 or 15 years. And as you mentioned canon ages are just as retarded, I could then be a pedo for being attracted to a character who looks like a big titty ara but is canonically 3 years old because shes a biological experiment or some shit.

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e9c24a  No.16935271

>>16935268

here's a thought experment

>an isekai trapped in an MMO anime

>skimpy clad ultra sexualised loli character is, according to the plot, a 300 year old dragon

>the player trapped inside that loli character is an FBI agent trying to bait pedos

>you are a censor

what do you do anon

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5b3651  No.16935272

>>16935271

License it under the Toddlers and Tiaras IP.

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d7378d  No.16935279

>>16935271

ban the pig and ignore reports on other players using loli avatars

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6991c5  No.16935284

>>16935260

T H I S

S T H I

I S T H

H I S T

Ban all porn, ban all anime. All of it is nothing but a slippery slope that leads pedophilia.

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68da47  No.16935287

>>16935284

>everything leads to wanting to fuck kids

You projecting something there?

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349634  No.16935295

>>16935189

>If real cp is deemed socially unacceptable, any media portraying it should be, too

<If violence/murder is deemed socially unacceptable, any media portraying it should be, too

Let's just ban all video games (except walking simulators I guess) because clearly there is no difference between reality and fiction.

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000000  No.16935309

>>16935110

That only happens because there are not enough jews and leftists being killed.

Kill more.

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949d0e  No.16935319

File: cac8f01966eafae⋯.png (159.35 KB, 344x339, 344:339, 1357857447279.png)

>>16935284

back in the good old days people would have a problem with porn because it usually derailed threads, now we honest to god have faggots like you towing some moral line

its fine to roll your eyes when some horny dipshit starts posting dragon cocks or some shit, but cmon dude, you're screeching about a slippery slope when you're advocating for an even worse one

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824020  No.16935328

So have any alternative to nexus mods popped up at all?

I have an old account there, I don't need to pay for shit, but I'd still rather not go there at all anymore.

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000000  No.16935333

>>16935328

loverslab was created back in the day specifically because nexus banned porn mods of any kind. Of course they also banned pedoshit as soon as it got popular, and I don't think there's any general adult modding site or forum these days that hasn't. I think I remember some .legacywaste site people kept talking about in relation to loli, but that was a long time ago and IIRC it was just some dude who hosted updated mods from before loverslab ban days. Maybe someone who's still into modding skyrim knows more.

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2ddf75  No.16935367

What I find funny is that I've been calling for years that modern day gamergate was about ethics in loligagging, but told it wasn't. Funny how gamergate disappeared once loli was banned.

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c68c6e  No.16935394

File: f801a2a173c80c8⋯.jpg (499.49 KB, 1024x640, 8:5, jpg.jpg)

>>16935367

gamergate died when the internet aristocrat died. /v/ has always hated sjws or anything that was anti-free speech or anti Japanese games. (loli's are a staple of Japanese games) its that simple.

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1e04ff  No.16935395

>>16935367

It's funny because you were wrong?

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302b41  No.16935405

>>16935295

>Let's just ban all video games

This. Video games are for faggots.

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804779  No.16935410

>>16935243

this is mega retarded

they allow nude mods of the RSChildren of skyrim no problem.

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295bc9  No.16935420

File: 1c78b0813abcead⋯.png (265.63 KB, 440x498, 220:249, ayaya.PNG)

>>16935328

All The Fallen, but they ONLY host lolicon content or similar. They would probably also not allow this outfit hosted on their website because they would laugh at you for her being too old and not possessing a flat chest.

Btw kiwifarms really hated them back in the day for daring to circumvent protections of skyrim's sexlab, i got a chuckle from that one.

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45b257  No.16935436

File: c34bbf786db76cc⋯.jpg (10.95 KB, 320x290, 32:29, 1d0af0971b0a6310f60343b386….jpg)

>>16935394

The fuck you talking about? Jim's around Twitter and YT under a different name, and has basically been the same dude, when he's not talking about the c-virus.

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fca04c  No.16935453

>>16935110

So what, loli is banned now? Way to go, just came back and it seems this place is rulecucked. way to accelerate the descent into irrelevance.

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000000  No.16935454

>>16935410

Get the fuck out. Links or it didn't happen. I could possibly see it if that's be a functionality of a bigger modpack that made everyone nude, but still. I call bs.

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0ed264  No.16935481

>>16935284

>All of it is nothing but a slippery slope that leads pedophilia.

maybe pedophilia is the natural way of things then, if you think about it. if you need to purposefully cripple all forms of creativity because it all leads to pedophilia, maybe pedophilia isn't actually wrong and you've been bullshited into believing its the worst thing ever by people trying to keep you in the dark?

>>16935110

i'd like to know where to pirate the game for a start. i tried some method of downloading the demo and replacing files that i found in some forum but it didn't work.

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03660e  No.16935482

>>16935436

Jim became /cow/ incarnate, including being a massive lolcow himself.

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50f632  No.16935520

>>16935188

Reported for leftist spam. Commit suicide, yid.

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e37285  No.16935521

>>16935482

>jim

>cow

Ten bucks on you being a asshurt furry faggot

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804779  No.16935540

>>16935454

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2650?tab=files

What's funny about this is that the game stops treating NPCs with this race as children and instead makes them into regular npcs which is why people go with this when it comes to using sexlab because sexlab checks if you're trying to have sex with a kid.

They make the character model naked for a children race.

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dc1aaa  No.16935543

>>16935521

For what it’s worth, when he was fighting with the skeptics everyone acted like a retard.

Jim’s at his best when he’s covering cringe or doing shit like his photon marathon and follow up interview stream. He’s at his worst when being a doomer or roasting people with actual mental illness(even if the Ross stream was crazy, it made me feel bad as that fucker legit needs psychiatric help).

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537890  No.16935544

>>16935110

It added a womb tattoo, of course it's pedophilia.

>>16935253

If it had "BLACKED.COM" marked on her, then you would see it for what it is.

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277c7d  No.16935548

>>16935110

That's not Charlotte.

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505f09  No.16935551

>>16935544

>of course it's pedophilia.

<being unable to separate fiction from reality

You know that is a bad sign, right?

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0dbac3  No.16935554

File: cb72db774d15351⋯.png (29.83 KB, 144x195, 48:65, _confused_internally_.png)

>>16935551

Fictional influences people more than reality.

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505f09  No.16935558

>>16935554

So are you saying Jack Thompson was right? That violent video games cause school shootings and violence in the world? Because thats also be proven to be bold faced lie as well.

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5b3651  No.16935561

>>16935544

>If a completely hypothetical situation that I just imagined was happening, then you would disapprove

Yeah, that's true. However, I personally find tattoos disgusting. Most people in Japan associate tattoos with criminal gangs, not necessarily prostitution. The "womb tattoo" is probably at best a niche hentai fetish. It sets a dangerous precedent if we are suddenly going to decide that because a minority of people get off to something, it is not allowed. I rarely even see womb tattoos on real 3DPD pornstars. The lower-back tramp stamp is far more common and I would kind of understand if they didn't like that. However, as I said in an earlier post, it makes no sense that they would draw the line here and not at the obviously sexualized outfits which are already included in the game. It is too late to play the policeman now, you already added the game to your website catalog. This is a game with frequent gratuitous upskirt camera shots during cutscenes on the same character. I know because I already beat the game with Riesz and Angela in my party and I was not expecting it at all. It is actually even more sexualized than the original game if you take a holistic stance (i.e. not counting the removal of the one ass spank move).

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0f13e7  No.16935562

File: aa2dff6c56a4c6e⋯.png (718.04 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1520029799241.png)

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>>16935551

>fictional bestiality is called bestiality on any porn archive

>fictional rape is called rape

>fictional "insert any kink other than pedophilia" is called by its name

>the culture the term originated in made up lolicon specifically to describe pedophilia

>"It'S nOt PeDoPhIliA mAn!"

>>16935554

That is actually true in some cases. If the recipients of a piece of idealized fiction are mentally ill, aka not sound of mind, there is higher chance of them being influenced by that media than the average joe.

>>16935558

Glorified violence is in almost all of the cases across the entertainment landscape applied to prevent further harm within the context of that piece of media. With glorified pedophile media, the idea is to pretend the harm sex with a minor can cause is nonexistent or even beneficial to the child.

Same with bestiality. Furries get a pass since they pass the harkness test. Any porn based on nonconsensuality gets a pass as long because the depicted individuals are potentially able to consent and could be merely roleplaying rape.

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3591c3  No.16935567

Damn, this place is completely done for. I thought posting would go back to normal in a week or so but it has been a while and it’s still a disaster.

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5b3651  No.16935569

>>16935562

>He unironically posted that test as an argument in his favor, not against it

The joke is that the creatures in both of those images look the exact same. The problem with lolis in art is that they are very frequently ambiguous due to artistic style. As is in this game's case. Pedophilia is ultimately in the eye of the beholder, not the fictional image itself, especially in the case of a character such as Riesz who doesn't really look any different from any other teenage moe character. As I said before, there is no discernable difference between a 16 year old anime girl and an 18 year old anime girl in a style that is relatively simple like Trials'. Images can be interpreted, and a number that someone wrote down on a wiki somewhere does not dictate sexual attraction for many viewers. If you are enamored with the idea of having sex with minors, then you will interpret the image that way, and not if you are not. It is ultimately something that comes from within. You may have an argument if it is a full cerebral narrative which actually goes out of its way to glorify pedophilia, but for a simple image of a character, there are countless ways you can interpret it. Good luck dictating the age of a shortstack goblin, for example.

What if I were to see some fanart of Riesz naked, without any knowledge of the series or contextual knowledge about the character? Am I a pedophile if I fap to the character? That's really the problem with trying to get rid of loli in particular. You won't solve the issue because lolicons or pedos or whatever you would like to call them will see 18 year old anime girls and just create a narrative in their mind that they are minors, or 18-year old gnomes or some shit. Elin in Tera Online are also another great example of how the test you posted is a joke. Add tails and ears to lolis and say they're sexually mature and suddenly it's morally okay.

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505f09  No.16935575

>>16935562

>staggered caps

You need to be 18 or older to post here.

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098cd6  No.16935580

>>16935562

>Furries get a pass

This place is finally dead. I can rest.

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20c1aa  No.16935584

>people here saying loli is cp

Imageboards are dead.

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2982ca  No.16935586

>>16935584

fictional cp. It's no big deal.

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ad2e14  No.16935595

>>16935584

pedos in denial never had a monopoly over imageboards, its the ones that say loli is cp and therefore ban it becoming the norm around here that signals a culture shift.

this place used to be full of people who were free speech extremists that believed even illegalizing CP created a slippery slope of censorship and now here we are with nothing left but normalfags all the way to the administration chomping at the bit to jump down that slope head first

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c68c6e  No.16935597

File: f3fd0fbd5bce67f⋯.png (264.89 KB, 500x456, 125:114, 88.png)

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a2c30b  No.16935602

>>16935597

Oh am I supposed to make sure I stay on the same IP so I can be datamined by jim and you can use my thread ID to try and build a profile on me even though the whole purpose of anonymity is to stop that from happening? Where the fuck do you think you are to be so obsessed over identifiers on an anonymous platform?

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505f09  No.16935603

>>16935602

>build a profile on a faggot

The FBI would rather fuck with the election than waste time on that.

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c00bb5  No.16935605

>>16935603

Not the FBI, anyone. Like I can use your ID to start building a profile on you of being a lolicon loving pedo that only faps to drawings and thinks so long as he relegates his sexuality to the realm of fiction and prostrates himself that the pedo hate mob will just roll right over him and he won't end up savagely censored.

Now with only a couple posts to work with I could be totally misinterpreting it but thats the whole point, the more you post under the same ID the more accurate the profile you're building of yourself.

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505f09  No.16935610

>>16935605

And you couldn't possibly be further from the truth you paranoid schizophrenic.

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d194e0  No.16935611

File: f2030e4a8beb894⋯.jpg (106.1 KB, 700x1188, 175:297, EXndVqzWoAY0oow.jpg)

:^)

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0f13e7  No.16935612

>>16935611

What's with him anyway? Is he some boogeyman for weebs or what?

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505f09  No.16935613

>>16935612

Hes a twitter paragon of cultural defense. He shitposts in defense of people finding interest in japanese culture while simultaneously complaining about it.

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0f13e7  No.16935616

>>16935613

I mean I like eating food, but I hate cilantro.

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648c2c  No.16935629

>>16935567

It is like this everywhere, userbase got fractured.

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aea854  No.16935636

That's ironic considering the game is already with sexualized minors. Have you seen all the boobage and cleavage in this game?

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599ab9  No.16935637

>>16935185

Then look at Scotland or Ireland. Even worse rates than England despite no sandniggers. Russia has a worse murder rate than America despite no niggers.

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599ab9  No.16935639

>>16935268

Most popular anime girls, even the ones with big titties, are usually under 18 though.

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599ab9  No.16935642

>>16935328

ATF hosts loli mods.

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5b3651  No.16935671

>>16935639

I'm fairly certain that the most popular anime girls for porn are those from shounen like the female characters from Dragon Ball, or Yoko Littner, the vast majority of which aren't underage. SOL and moeshit still isn't really mainstream anon. Also third worlders seem to love Dragon Ball porn, and they represent a large portion of the world's population. The one exception you could argue for are My Hero Academia characters, but they still aren't as popular as older shounen characters.

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35c3e0  No.16935676

All these fucking Qoomers here. Go back and pray for the mole children.

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ea63ee  No.16935684

>>16935110

Fuck this gay Earth.

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aea854  No.16935732

>>16935676

uh wat?

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aea854  No.16935733

>>16935249

literally that is the whole point of Angela's character. She is set as a promiscuous character.

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c68c6e  No.16935735

File: 88daf4a234755df⋯.jpg (117.17 KB, 735x981, 245:327, 7361834d6db2507cbaa91ba230….jpg)

>>16935567

>I thought posting would go back to normal in a week or so but it has been a while and it’s still a disaster.

still no board owner (Ron should just take it over at this point) not enough vols to clean out the all glow in dark niggers that keep shitting up every thread. I say fuck it! if 8kun's management wants cower in fear. that's fine I get it. I believe this is more about what Jim (Watkins) said officially he is anti-loli (and /v/) at this point. I can respect that. all this fucking around talking to half baked lawyers that can't account for every scenario was a waste of time. (if it was up to Ron I'm sure he would have just moved servers, problem solved)

If anything, this very thread and numerous articles of news shows us that “loli content” isn't even the real target of any of this crazy draconian shit. (its collateral damage and a great misdirect by agent provocateurs, 8kun has been infested by them lately and the mods that are still here need to step up. Ban the black pills and pedo screacting glow niggers. Unless you want a dead image board) the Anime/Japanese art style itself is under attack (see this fucking thread!) even non-lewd western art that's not fat bitch sjw approved is besieged on all sides (we even have Sony shill on 8kun attempting to defend the flaming shit pile that is the “Last of Us 2” (they DMCA’d an entire thread!). Lofu2 is another great example of how they are attempting to push this fucked up ajenda of ugliness and self hatred . (((they))) are even censoring old comic books and movies! (see disney plus and dc all access) images of adult body's, not even being close to pornographic!

A majorly huge effort to shift the overton window is underway; this is about what's acceptable and attractive by the standards of human society. (covid is being used to hide lots of serious shit, EARN IT Act is just one part of the puzzle) the ultimate goal is tighter control, lowering the bars of health and beauty and turning fictional thoughts into real prosecutable crimes. (all while “real living people” are victimized at immeasurable rates)

Ron is the site admin and the rules as they are written (by him, for now) state no "hardcore" or "uncensored" loli. But he has said that loli “uncensored discussion/text” is fine and posting of loli images in most forms should be fine too… so I say let's take this opportunity to do what anons do best.. Get angry and shit post to the extreme. Let's take back our internet, our mods and our fucking image boards!

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e7fbce  No.16935745

>all this blatant IP hopping, even admits to it

>>16935735

>Ron should just take it over at this point

And have it filled with glowniggers? This is what ruined /pol/, which had schizos rise up and get us deplatformed. Ron is a constant fuck up as evident by the state of this board.

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000000  No.16935750

Anyone wanting to laugh at pedos lurk julay, they're having a fucking shitshow over there. It's way more entertaining than when 8kun banned loli. Their boards will only last a few more weeks before being removed, and this slow death that has them importently raging and spamming boards, burning any remaining bridges between them and whoever was left that sympathized with them as people get collateraled in permaban waves.

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5b3651  No.16935758

>>16935733

But someone wrote that Angela is 19 in a profile somewhere so she's "safe."

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806f2b  No.16935788

Do we have a new site already?

This shithole have the same PPH as cuckchan have per second because everyone is spread around 40 dead sites

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0dbac3  No.16935789

>>16935597

(2) :^)

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c68c6e  No.16935804

File: 0a009c711249922⋯.png (657.51 KB, 783x1200, 261:400, 28f742bc7ea6bcf0f649ddc55f….png)

>>16935745

>This is what ruined /pol/,

No, /pol/ became a "global" board with basically no owner. Ron said /v/ is his favorite board, if he keeps a line of communication open with users and stays transparent I don’t see a problem with him as a BO. (especially since 8 kun's /v/ population looks like it's going stay small outside of big events like an E3)

>>16935750

>laugh at pedos

>lurk julay

>It's way more entertaining than when 8kun banned loli.

yet they are keeping the baby diaper porn, so it's not quite the flex on "pedos" that you claim it to be tor-pedo.

>>16935758

>>16935733

I don't think it really matters, Hex Maniac has no real canon age and most artists draw her as a big titty goth milf. yet the fucks are trying to ban art of her with the same logic as the ban on this mod. (see patreon, and deviantart) We've already seen mod sites and file lockers (like megaupload) banning mod files for anime games saying the mods are "sexualizing minors" even if the mods in question are just big tits and ass mods. The pedo scare shit is just a temporary red herring. eventually it's just going to be the same excuse the blue check marks on twater use… "Where Are Her Organs?" and "you can't be allowed to draw women like this!" and "if you want stuff like that go watch porn!"et etcetera et etcetera. this is all designed to demoralize and have a chilling effect on what whats posted online.

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ad2e14  No.16935805

>>16935750

julay is planning on sanitizing itself of all porn within a couple months, if you think its porn posters that should have to kowtow to julay in order to have an imageboard to post on and not julay that has to kowtow to the porn posters in order to still have a userbase left to post on their imageboard then you have another thing coming.

there is nothing special about hosting an imageboard, it was done by half a dozen different people the moment ron decided to ban loli so you are in no position to try and twist the arm of your userbase to act in the way you want them to act when theres nothing holding them to use your site and not all the others begging people to use them.

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b432a1  No.16935809

File: 521f5bca31fe341⋯.png (2.27 KB, 201x199, 201:199, idontevenknowwhostrollingw….png)

Plot twist: Ron and/or Jim are the ones defending and attacking loli in threads like these.

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5b3651  No.16935811

>>16935804

I know it doesn't matter. I was channelling the faggots who actually think that is a valid line of defense. If an autist like me can't tell the visual difference between a legal age manga girl and an underage one, then I know the clowns trying to ban loli can't.

Also, I wonder how society will justify this when 16 is the age of consent in many, many civilized nations, even some states in the US. How is fapping to a fictional 16 year old wrong if it's okay to fuck real 16 year olds? You may have a point if it was. a 16 year old girl entering the porn industry, but she's not real so it isn't.

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3f59db  No.16935960

File: 0f7825b7a55e355⋯.jpg (80.19 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 0f7825b7a55e355f98e3a74c44….jpg)

>>16935166

You mean they used to cheer for the cute girls, as their hobby became popular. Don't blame nerds fo what some trendhopping kikes pushed onto the masses. They had no control over any of that. You gotta bop those jews and their children until there is no one left to bop.

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cdfe7e  No.16935970

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2982ca  No.16935971

>>16935597

cretin.

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ffcd4f  No.16935979

>>16935584

loli is cp

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b184c1  No.16935982

File: 83bb66afd681924⋯.jpg (1.01 MB, 3541x5016, 3541:5016, ROLL_FROM_MEGA_MAN.jpg)

>>16935979

if only you actually believed that. you wouldn't even be here ;^D

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a67c03  No.16935984

>>16935982

Wait, you don't know? Or is this another level of ironic posting? In either case, jump shit, this site is shit.

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2982ca  No.16935988

>>16935982

what would you call porn that involves underage characters?

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b184c1  No.16935991

File: eb38b62cad777de⋯.webm (15.91 MB, 320x180, 16:9, Loli_Fox_Konko_cute_PON_P….webm)

>>16935988

do you also call video games virtual snuff films? drawings and polygons have no age, no life, and no intelligence.

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19c009  No.16935992

File: 36c43e1697a9eaa⋯.gif (528.1 KB, 500x483, 500:483, 1459556562829.gif)

>>16935804

/pol/ exactly died when it became a "global" board, the turkroach might have been a faggot for banning /SIG/ and book threads but we had OC, we had >>/8diamonds/ and >>/bmw/ linked on the top of the page. The globals banned OC threads and /pol/ culture threads off the board, fuck them all.

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2982ca  No.16935994

>>16935991

maybe something like manhunt or tlou 2. wasn't the torture scene in gta5 compared to a snuff film?

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b184c1  No.16935996

File: 9dc7e93a30643c4⋯.png (405.5 KB, 1237x793, 1237:793, 9dc.png)

File: c546437b38d58a2⋯.jpg (66.35 KB, 800x793, 800:793, b1e.jpg)

>>16935992

the problem with every version of /pol/ is it gets filled to the brim with glow niggers and JIDF. still it shouldn't have been that difficult move to /pol2/ or /pdf/ and regroup. from what I remember around that time when /pol/ turned global(-ist) nothing was stopping the OG mods and janitors from just starting over without imkempf.

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b184c1  No.16935998

File: 71e5228d413a337⋯.jpg (110.61 KB, 800x518, 400:259, ISIS_execute_Taliban_fight….jpg)

>>16935994

if you've been on images boards or just the internet long enough you already know that video game violence is always cartoony and exaggerated. it looks nothing like actual murder/torture plenty of IRL gore threads have proven that.

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67ae13  No.16936000

File: 96a73636b77cf1e⋯.png (151.1 KB, 686x720, 343:360, 02_01EN.png)

>>16935991

If all you did was fap to standalone images of them and imagined in your head they were of age then thats one thing, but you know damn well you're going on exhentai and finding doujins where some sweaty fat guy preying on and exploiting children and masturbating to that because thats what almost all lolicon is about.

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a67c03  No.16936001

>>16936000

>The professor is a nigger

>Blackmailing

I am not surprised, although this seems like a recolor, so I'm willing to bet it's some western faggot projecting. Niggers are disgusting and borderline bestiality.

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2982ca  No.16936005

>>16935998

> video game violence is always cartoony and exaggerated

depends on the game. I wouldn't call the violence in tlou2 cartoony in any way. not every game is trying to be brutal doom.

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67ae13  No.16936006

>>16936001

Japanese artists typically make the male like that so it fades into the background while the loli which is supposed to be the focus pops out, the face just looks like a typical japanese mans.

They just aren't obsessed with identity politics like the western world is so I'm sure they don't think of it the way you do.

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a67c03  No.16936007

File: 6a6d520f74ea65a⋯.png (105.52 KB, 577x574, 577:574, 6a6d520f74ea65af37a296675d….png)

>>16936006

No, it's called edits and they are done by western niggers. Black wouldn't fade with the background, what fades with the background is usually gray, which is possibly the intended color for the character. The whole scene looks like trash, though, but at the very least, you can know for sure that gay isn't a nigger. There aren't even niggers in japan, and the ones that are there are shunned by society for very obvious reasons.

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67ae13  No.16936009

File: bdd8872315eb194⋯.jpg (109.27 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, 121_3_10.jpg)

>>16936007

Its not an edit, you have no idea what you're talking about and clearly you've never drawn or colored anything in your entire life to know if you want one thing to pop out in an image you don't surround it with exactly the same color.

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a67c03  No.16936010

File: 4ead6b90f1e3dfc⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 73.14 KB, 515x392, 515:392, Captura2.JPG)

>>16936009

Whatever you say, nigger lover, kill yourself.

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67ae13  No.16936012

File: 84c248cc080aaf7⋯.png (996.44 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, Untitled_1.png)

>>16936010

Like heres a quick and dirty edit of that image since its going to get deleted in a minute anyway, you can clearly tell why the artist chose to make the male the way they are and it has nothing to do with identity politics.

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a67c03  No.16936014

File: cc7d18b08387ecd⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 5.79 MB, 3435x2494, 3435:2494, P136_P137.png)

>>16936012

Yeah, this one is better. Now kill yourself.

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67ae13  No.16936016

>>16936014

You think its better because just like anita's feminist lens she sees everything through ruins her perception of everything you have an identity politics lens that ruins your perception of everything, it all comes down to brown man bad and white man good and the quality of the art or anything else thats more important to most people just falls to the wayside for you.

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15a85b  No.16936017

File: 46d01521225dd5a⋯.png (137.21 KB, 284x337, 284:337, _coughs_.png)

>>16936000

>>16936006

>>16936009

>>16936012

>>16936016

I've never seen somebody go total cuck mode so quickly after entering a thread before

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a67c03  No.16936019

>>16936016

I think is better because the original pic is an edit on it's own, made by westerns. Japs don't draw niggers, and the ones that do are cucks in the first place. Darker skin for contrast reasons is one thing. Drawing a nigger is another.

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67ae13  No.16936020

>>16936017

Using that definition any porn with men is cuckold porn.

>>16936019

Is this your own imagined conspiracy where any brown person drawn by a japanese man must be an edit because you're a weeb that has this grandiose opinion of the japanese?

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5b3651  No.16936021

>>16935994

>>16936005

Virtually no game gets realistic violence right outside of cutscenes which were animated by somebody, which are just movies anyways. TLOU2 and new Tomb Raider, which I really think is just some creeper's guro fetish, are good examples of that. When it is violence committed by the player, the player's own agency ironically takes you out of the moment in just about every game I've played. A simple example of that is messing around with ragdoll physics, even inadvertently. GTA5 additionally portrays its NPCs as South Park-esque caricatures of annoying and stupid people so you don't feel bad about killing them.

However, that is neither here nor there. The issue of loli is unique as it is necessarily tied to the anime/manga art style, which has very simplistic faces and often makes up stupid rules as it goes along. There is obviously a point where an artist is probably fetishizing a child, but the problem is that the rules you would have to enforce for it would necessarily create tons of collateral damage due to the whimsical nature of the artists. And for what? I have yet to hear of a pedo who was arrested that actually had loli art on his disk drive. They always go straight for the real shit. Combine that with Japan's low crime rate and something is clearly not adding up here if you wish to wave loli around as the big bad ugly influence. I would say it has much less to do with influencing and much more to do with the pre-existing fetishes of the viewer and artist. When was the last time you decided to change your sexual preferences simply based on porn you were looking at?

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b184c1  No.16936022

File: 877900a97e11d19⋯.jpg (124.26 KB, 720x618, 120:103, 3619686_1990262_brainiac.jpg)

>>16936000

>If all you did was fap to standalone images of them and imagined in your head they were of age then thats one thing.

ok with you so far…

>but you know damn well you're going on exhentai and finding doujins where some sweaty fat guy preying on and exploiting children and masturbating to that because thats what almost all lolicon is about

>all that hypothetical feminist style hysteria and projection.

you are advocating for thought as crimes. (with the way the west keeps emulating china i'm sure you'll get your wish) and spouting the same "every violent video game is GTA or Mortal Kombat" and gamers are just blood thirsty killers and perverts, such a tired argument we've heard for years. millions of people are playing M rated games and less then 0.1% percent of them ever end up killing anyone (and when they do its (almost) never related to video games). Loli/Shota content has a similar number, millions upon millions of people ingest manga, anime, games and doujin offerings with Loli/Shota themes, yet we don't see millions of rapists or molesters. and when we do find such people the vast majority committing these crimes have never even accessed such media. you are worrying about a minority of a minority. a statistical anomaly that barely merits any discussion. (let alone the exaggerated fear based one you want to have).

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67ae13  No.16936023

>>16936022

Where did I say I wished for it to be criminalized or that it raises the rate of sex crimes? I just want people to be honest with themselves.

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b184c1  No.16936025

File: 2856febb320f7f3⋯.jpg (56.61 KB, 1000x563, 1000:563, CP_man.jpg)

>>16936023

>Where did I say…

aren't you in camp that says its equivalent to CP? and by that logic virtual representation should be treated as real things? if not what was the point of this post?>>16936000

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67ae13  No.16936026

>>16936025

The debatable reasons for possession of CP being illegal can't be applied at all to drawings, the point of my post is to try and make people be honest with themselves.

To me its like some person who plays GTA all day as a murderous psychopath that then turns around and says he thinks violence is disgusting and deplorable and anyone who likes it is a sick fuck that should go to prison.

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5b3651  No.16936027

>>16936026

That isn't a valid analogy at all, because tons of people actually do that. GTA is designed to make it rewarding for you to kill random NPCs because of the funny noises they make all the time. The increase in wanted level is usually what the person playing the game wants, it makes it more exciting for them. You are trying to moralize a purely Pavlovian response to stimulus; haha, funny man dies and gets launched 50 feet into air, haha.

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2982ca  No.16936031

>>16936021

you have me completely wrong. I never said loli should be banned or artists prosecuted for drawing it. I'm simply trying to call a spade a spade. it's fictional cp, since it's porn where the characters are underage. nothing wrong with that, it's fictional and hurts nobody. just like killing someone in gta. i'd still call gta a violent game, even though the violence is fictional.

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67ae13  No.16936035

>>16936027

I can't believe I'm watching the same bullshit arguments being used to try and disconnect gta from violence as well.

Violent video games and movies isn't something every single person enjoys in the same way reading stories of children being molested with illustrations drawn by a japanese man isn't something every single person enjoys.

Does that mean it should be illegal? No, but it does mean you should be honest with yourself and admit you enjoy a bit of violence or get off to the idea of kids being fucked since that is actually what you're doing.

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50f632  No.16936037

>>16935110

Remember when whites didn’t do what jews wanted them to do? Remember when brain dead subhuman faggots didn’t claim that jewish deconstructionalism was “freedom”?

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c6df0f  No.16936039

>>16936037

Remember when /pol/ stayed in /pol?

me neither

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0f13e7  No.16936040

>>16936031

That's what these delusional fags don't get, or rather, know deep down to be true and just don't want to accept. They're pedos, there's no two ways about it. Loli is semantically speaking cp, just like a drawing of a guy fucking an animal is bestiality, or a sexualized drawing of rape is semantically rape porn. Funny how people into these and any other kinks don't seem to mind their porn being classified accurately.

But I guess this is the result of people who are in denial so hard they throw any other kind of pedo under the bus in an attempt to be seen as part of the "in-group" aka normalfags when it comes to hatred of child sexualization. It's prime cognitive dissonance that Western lolifags have created to protect themselves from the reality of their nature. It's both sad and funny. Hilariously, the louder they scream "I'm not a pedo, this is not cp" the more they bring attention to themselves, and the more quickly they're being ostracized and shove underground with pedos who like real kids.

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b184c1  No.16936041

File: 5a2ba90a9d3a570⋯.jpg (41.27 KB, 640x430, 64:43, powdered_wig_5.jpg)

>>16936037

>do you remember what life was like hundreds of years ago?

>>16936039

most of theses ass-hats aren't even /pol/

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c6df0f  No.16936042

>>16936041

Qboomers, /pol/, whats the difference really its all just a bunch of conspiratorial nutjobs obsessing over their own personal boogeyman.

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5b3651  No.16936043

>>16936035

>admit you enjoy a bit of violence

I have literally never hurt anyone intentionally. I threw a punch once in high school because I was provoked over a long period of time. It ended poorly because my fist collided with a grated locker door and cut myself badly. I do not enjoy violence, but violent games happen to be well-designed. This isn't difficult to figure out if you aren't a fucking psychopath who cannot figure out the difference between fiction and reality, such as yourself.

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67ae13  No.16936044

>>16936043

I don't enjoy farming games but I've seen how well designed they are, still doesn't change the fact I have no interest in playing one because I don't enjoy the gameplay.

Your argument is tantamount to saying "yeah I don't like scat porn but all the artists are so good that I just have to masturbate exclusively to it"

Get fucking real with yourself man.

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62f7c8  No.16936048

>>16936044

Violence in most games is really nothing like violence in real life, and conflating the two is the sign of a very sheltered person.

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5b3651  No.16936049

>>16936040

>Loli is semantically speaking cp,

Not really, it is a very poorly defined term at this point in our zeitgeist which even the people fapping to it can't seem to agree on. Here's a fun exercise: Imagine you are a legislator, and you are the one writing the bill to ban loli. How would you do it? How would you define loli, in legal terms?

>just like a drawing of a guy fucking an animal is beastiality

<Who are furries? Never heard of 'em. No ambiguity there.

And then he caps it off with

>You just want to be a normalfag

Nice one dumbfuck, that's definitely why I'm here posting on this site, right now, defending sexualized 16 year old anime girls. Thank you for your diagnosis Herr Doctor, may I please have my crazy pills now?

>>16936044

Wasted dubs. You're a fucking joke. I can't take you seriously if you're going to argue that I like hurting people because I play violent games. Just leave, get the fuck out. You are Jack Thompson.

>I didn't enjoy the gameplay

Right, and the gameplay of many ultra-violent games is good. Not my fault. You wanna change that, be my fucking guest and make a game. There are plenty of good non-violent games out there as well.

>b-but lolis

Lolis don't look like real people you massive fucktard. Real kids never have bat wings, or anatomically disproportionate massive tits. Yet both of those things can be considered loli too. That is the point you are failing to grasp. I have never once been under the impression that when I look at a loli, I am looking at a real child. I have never once felt sexual attraction towards real children. You are just like every other overbearing statist who believes that no one is capable of analytical thought but themselves, or maybe you are just projecting your inability to separate fiction from reality onto others. You may as well be a fucking Solipsist.

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67ae13  No.16936051

>>16936048

Using your hand to jerk your dick off to drawings of naked kids is nothing like fucking a kid either but wanting to do that alone tells you enough about a persons interests.

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67ae13  No.16936054

>>16936049

Why is it that you think the gameplay of farming simulator is bad and the gameplay in ultra-violent video games is good? What makes non-violent video games more popular among women and violent video games more popular among men? Could it be that an interest in violence is much more common in men for obvious reasons?

I don't care whether or not you'd like hurting real people, I get off to rape porn but I wouldn't want to hurt a real person in that way, still doesn't change the fact that the thought of forcing myself on a woman makes my dick hard so I'm undeniably sexually attracted to the idea of raping someone.

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b184c1  No.16936055

File: fc6bbc6359737b2⋯.jpg (112.49 KB, 800x557, 800:557, 56093_harvest_moon_snes_fr….jpg)

File: 97308727d770dc6⋯.jpg (68.77 KB, 640x652, 160:163, 013388210312.jpg)

File: 1c52bb369089e7d⋯.jpg (146.75 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, 18j4a5at3tgdrjpg.jpg)

>>16936040

>>16936054

>Why is it that you think the gameplay of farming simulator is bad and the gameplay in ultra-violent video games is good?

I play both harvest moon and resident evil, yet I've never once wanted to work on a farm or spend time shooting zombies.

> I get off to rape porn but I wouldn't want to hurt a real person in that way, still doesn't change the fact that the thought of forcing myself on a woman makes my dick hard so I'm undeniably sexually attracted to the idea of raping someone.

that might just be your own thing. I've fapped to almost every type of hentai, but I have no need to see any of that shit IRL.

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5b3651  No.16936056

>>16936051

Your problem is that you equate "loli" to "kids" conceptually but many of the artists and people who label their art do not. See this pic I just posted. It's considered loli on the booru I pulled it from. Have you ever seen a child that looks like this? This demonstrates how ridiculously broad the term is.

>>16936054

>Why is it that you think the gameplay of farming simulator is bad and the gameplay in ultra-violent video games is good?

Because the farming simulator is designed to simulate something that is fucking boring in real life, whereas the other game is designed to be fun? It's kinda, y'know, in the fucking name of the genre. No, that couldn't possibly be the reason. I must secretly be a bloodthirsty killer.

>Could it be that an interest in violence is much more common in men for obvious reasons?

Looks and themes drive sales. You are trying to equate gameplay constructs with real-world actions. In other words, you're like one of those moms who thinks that Doom teaches you to shoot a real gun.

>Could it be that an interest in violence is much more common in men for obvious reasons?

You're talking about an extremely deep issue with many factors influencing it and blowing it off like you know the answer. Men like competition because competition is a way of presenting the best genes for potential mates. Shooting people with guns is a form of competition that is easy to program in video games because running a check to see if a bullet hit you is much, much less complicated than designing melee attack animations and then hitboxes for those animations. You're obviously completely fucking ignorant of game design and its history, but trying to act like some kind of Sigmund Freud. It's utterly ridiculous.

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5b3651  No.16936058

File: f122b495a3df089⋯.jpeg (64.83 KB, 680x680, 1:1, loli_example_1.jpeg)

>>16936056

Forgot my pic, whoops.

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67ae13  No.16936061

>>16936056

Oppai lolis are a totally different fetish removed from reality in the same way monstergirls are, and if thats all you fap to then I don't see anything pedophilic about it at all, see: >>16936000

If farming simulator is so inherently fucking boring then why is it so successful? Plenty of people find it fun and you only being entertained by high octane violence doesn't devalue their fun.

I'm just baffled that this has come full circle and now theres people trying to separate the violence from violent video games to cover their own ass in the same way they separate the pedophilia from lolicon.

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71798e  No.16936062

File: 97c81fe6a0887ed⋯.png (26.12 KB, 913x600, 913:600, ClipboardImage.png)

UH WHAT IS HAPPENING TO JULAY

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67ae13  No.16936063

>>16936062

Works on my machine™

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5b3651  No.16936066

>>16936061

>Oppai lolis are a totally different fetish removed from reality in the same way monstergirls are, and if thats all you fap to then I don't see anything pedophilic about it at all

But they're still called lolis. That's the problem. The issue isn't really with what you or I think lolis are, the issue is with what society in general thinks lolis are. I don't want to commit a Loki's wager here, it is obvious that some of the art fetishizes children. But when the term is muddied by shit like this it becomes extremely difficult to draw a line, especially in legal terms.

>I'm just baffled that this has come full circle and now theres people trying to separate the violence from violent video games to cover their own ass in the same way they separate the pedophilia from lolicon.

I'm baffled by your perspective and your use of semantics. Pedophilia implies that someone has an urge to commit sexual acts with minors, whether they act on them or not. Only upon viewing the most heinous acts committed by real people have I ever had the urge to commit violence. Violence can be justified, but only in very specific circumstances, for both moral and practical reasons. Violent video games aren't designed to fulfill a violent fantasy for people who want to commit violence. They're designed because the game developers looked at what was popular at the time and conceptualized something they thought would sell and would be easy to develop. It's really a matter of expedience. Not to heap too much praise on Nintendo here, but they are really good at coming up with novel game concepts which are very fun but don't involve much violence. Most developers don't put in that level of creative effort because it requires some thinking outside the box, and developers were even less willing to put in effort before games became mainstream because there was less incentive. You can argue that society has an interest in violence because of the media that informed video games (movies, music, books, legends, etc) but I don't understand why you single out video games for that argument.

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2982ca  No.16936067

>>16936056

>Your problem is that you equate "loli" to "kids" conceptually

the term loli refers to depictions of characters between the ages of 4-15, so yes, it's a very broad term, but it still specifically refers to minors, because no one uses it to describe adult characters (other than jason schreier). the pic you posted is called an oppai loli, which is simply a loli with magically enhanced breasts. it's in the same ridiculous fantasy tier as dickgirls or people with multiple dicks.

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67ae13  No.16936068

>>16936066

I don't care what you think the word pedophilia implies, what it actually means applies perfectly to the people who get off to what lolicon represents.

Oppai loli still being called loli is irrelevant in the same way that dickgirls having the word girl in it is irrelevant, its a totally distinct fetish that is attractive to different people.

Yes game developers looked at what was popular and decided a lot of people like violence so we should make violent video games in the same way japanese artists look at whats popular and some decide a lot of people like kids getting fucked so they drew that. I fail to see what the point here is supposed to be, why does it matter whether they set out specifically to fill this niche or that they're just filling whatever theres demand for?

Also I'm not singling out games, I did mention movies at one point its just that games are more relevant to this board.

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980e99  No.16936070

>>16936062

Same problem

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505f09  No.16936071

>>16936062

can't get to it on TOR either, hosting service probably pulled the plug from the CP spammer.

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67ae13  No.16936072

File: ae7cfefd2fd6863⋯.jpg (139.49 KB, 1064x870, 532:435, Image.jpg)

>>16936071

Its a you problem.

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45c012  No.16936073

>>16936068

>some decide a lot of people like kids getting fucked

Jesus christ, you fucks can't comprehend anything outside your sick world view, huh?

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5b3651  No.16936074

>>16936067

>the term loli refers to depictions of characters between the ages of 4-15

OK. Let's say that's a law (not because I'm saying you advocate for banning for it, but to demonstrate). "No pornographic drawings depicting characters between the ages of 4-15." How do you decide what age a depiction is? What about characters who are canonically minors, but look like adults? Are you a criminal if you fap to that? If canon doesn't matter, how do you visually determine the age of a character? What about Riesz, who is canonically 16 and the original topic of this thread? Is she loli?

>>16936068

>Oppai loli still being called loli is irrelevant

No it isn't. Call your mom and try explaining to her the difference between loli and oppai loli. We can argue about the semantics of this ad nauseum, but the opinion that matters on this is not yours or mine. The restriction of loli will result in massive collateral damage to all Japanese styled depictions of girls due to the lack of interest by society at large who will only care about bashing a secret niche of pedophiles that barely even exists.

>I fail to see what the point here is supposed to be, why does it matter whether they set out specifically to fill this niche or that they're just filling whatever theres demand for?

Because if the demand was for My Little Pony characters shitting gumdrops at each other, that's what Doom would be styled as and we wouldn't be having this discussion. But there isn't any particular reason why the gameplay wouldn't be the same.

Many violent games, namely early FPSes, offer a pretty unique style of game design. They're sort of like bullet hells that take place from a different perspective and have more open map design. You have to position yourself well while thinking quickly. Designing good levels for these games is a respectable skill that is not common, in my opinion, whereas designing a level for an RTS is relatively easy because you are usually thinking only on two dimensions, and there aren't as many resources (power ups and weapons) to think about. The ultra-violence is just a style, these principles of game design are what I really care about and enjoy about the game. It just so happens that the most talented people decided to go with ultra-violence for their chosen theme because that was also the media they enjoyed before video games. The best work is done when creative and talented people freely exercise themselves and draw inspiration from whatever they like, and American media was saturated with violence since before the end of WW2, going all the way back to Westerns.

Primarily, I take umbrage with the fact that you would suggest these games are interesting to me because they are violent and I'm a violent person, not because they have meticulously designed sets of rules. I have studied them at length because I wanted to be a professional designer at one point, but went back to regular software development because the career choice was a terrible one. These games are not just power fantasies designed for deranged people, they are worthwhile executions of craftsmanship and ingenuity, and that talent is not directly tied to the level of violence.

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505f09  No.16936077

>>16936072

guess it was, restarted and it just werks now

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2982ca  No.16936078

>>16936074

i don't fucking know. i'm not arguing it's legality.

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67ae13  No.16936079

File: 1a28d5033166626⋯.jpeg (275.62 KB, 985x1400, 197:280, 1a28d5033166626ac3a5e8abb….jpeg)

>>16936073

Comic LO for example specifically points out that its supplying an outlet for pedophiles, this disconnect between lolicon and pedophilia is a purely western invention.

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50f632  No.16936080

>>16936039

>OY VEY I ACTUALLY THINK ANYONE HERE WILL EVER SUPPORT ME

This isn’t cuckchan. Your tranny jannies don’t control the website. We have always posted EVERYWHERE here. We post fact. You post judaism. You don’t have an argument.

>>16936041

>no argument, just autism

>hasn’t read a book in his life

No, please, defend the institutionalized rape of children some more.

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e432cd  No.16936082

I wish "is loli CP" discussions would just be banned. They serve no positive purpose at all and derail every thread they start up in. No one cares and no one's changing their mind, they're just trying to win the argument on technicalities.

>>16936062

Doesn't work for me either.

>>16936071

I didn't even notice there was one unless you're talking about loli. Wasn't looking at most threads though.

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5b3651  No.16936083

>>16936078

It's not even about legality, it's just about defining a term that people can use which isn't vague as fuck. This is why anons have been arguing about this shit for so long and why it is so easy to instigate arguments on this topic. You will argue forever if no one even agrees on the terms of discussion.

>>16936082

I do actually care, I would hope that much is clear from my autistic posts. Mostly because shit that I like will be caught in the collateral. Sadly the "They came for the Xes and I said nothing because I was not an X" quote is actually true here.

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505f09  No.16936084

>>16936082

The meta thread last night had someone spamming legit irl CP out of spite to the allowance of lolicon.

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a67c03  No.16936085

File: 6ba2f6456d4fd72⋯.jpg (461.54 KB, 1081x1600, 1081:1600, 6ba2f6456d4fd7278c61e12f5f….jpg)

>>16936079

That doesn't mean that lolicon is CP, faggot.

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67ae13  No.16936087

File: c3bcdda742bce9c⋯.png (2.9 MB, 1209x1661, 1209:1661, cb2c5301b77387e1c52c1766f0….png)

>>16936074

I never advocated for a restriction of loli and I can't see what explaining the difference between porn genres to my mother has to do with anything.

I don't even know where to begin with your MLP analogy, as if a game like that would still be a twitch shooter.

Kind of reminds me of that "counterstrike for kids" video back in the day, beyond a mod why on earth would a game be built from the ground up with violence in mind and then have all the violence removed?

Someone whos not into lolicon can still admire the artistic value of something like pic related just like someone whos not into violence can still admire the meticulous design of a video game, but if you're not into what they're depicting you can't enjoy them like the people who are into them can.

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67ae13  No.16936088

>>16936085

So the comic book thats self described as being for pedophiles isn't full of pornography that pedophiles would like?

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5b3651  No.16936089

>>16936087

>beyond a mod why on earth would a game be built from the ground up with violence in mind and then have all the violence removed?

Because it's… fun? What is Chex Quest? See, you're just conflating gameplay constructs with real-world impulses again. I'm not sure how else to explain this to you anon. Clicking a mouse in a video game doesn't give you the same feeling as ripping a small animal's head off. I don't think this discussion is going to go anywhere if you can't wrap your mind around this. Maybe try making a simple game of your own and see how works?

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67ae13  No.16936090

>>16936089

Chex quest is just a mod of doom so not a good example, as for the "clicking a mouse isn't the same" see: >>16936051

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5b3651  No.16936091

>>16936087

>>16936089

To elaborate slightly, it seems like you're trying to say that if Doom didn't exist, nobody could possibly have made a game which is themed around dodgeball, but plays exactly like Doom. That does not make any sense, especially considering that gameplay elements of dodgeball and Doom overlap extremely significantly. I don't understand where you get the idea that you have the authority to make this vastly sweeping claim about the human psyche.

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71798e  No.16936093

File: dbeddda9f4982a4⋯.png (65.57 KB, 366x401, 366:401, AAAAAAAA.png)

Please god don't let Julay be down for good I swear to fucking Christ if it's been taken down by that fucking Jew

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67ae13  No.16936094

>>16936091

dodgeball is violent too

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5b3651  No.16936095

>>16936090

OK. So can you prove that, for example, the guy (Gersh (((Kuntzman)))) from NY Daily News who shot an AR-15 and then cried, never played or doesn't like violent video games?

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67ae13  No.16936097

>>16936095

Can't see how enjoying using firearms is a requirement for enjoying violence or vice versa. I can enjoy watching a good bar fight knowing that if it was me I would get my shit kicked in.

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5b3651  No.16936099

>>16936097

But according to you, if Gersh likes violent video games, then he must necessarily enjoy violence. He would get a thrill knowing that he is controlling a weapon that could commit the ultimate act of violence. But he doesn't. Why? Come on, use your amazing psychological skills you've been putting on display. You're really going to say that Gersh would get tangled up in a bar brawl but would break down in tears firing a gun (which has very little recoil, by the way)?

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b184c1  No.16936100

File: df3ca8fb3056aa9⋯.png (204.42 KB, 510x840, 17:28, gtfo.png)

>>16936084

>CP spamers out to fuck over loli

yeah its pretty fucked up, all this anti-loli shit is some really obvious schadenfreude from legit chomos.

>but if you're not into what they're depicting you can't enjoy them like the people who are into them can.

How do you explain idorts?

>I wish "is loli CP" discussions would just be banned. They serve no positive purpose at all and derail every thread they start up in. No one cares and no one's changing their mind, they're just trying to win the argument on technicalities.

they were already proven wrong on almost every level and point (to bad Ron made that thread cyclical so everything relevant was deleted) not to mention its the same tired shit they keep repeating. (it's like talking to lefty/pol/). unless they have an open mind and want a real discussion (so when hell freezes over) its best just to tell them to fuck off. (pic related)

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2982ca  No.16936101

>>16936083

what's vague about it? kids aged 4-15. it's an universally agreed upon definition. "but what about Dizzy??????" dumb fantasy crap.

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67ae13  No.16936102

>>16936099

The same reason I enjoy rape porn but the idea of going out and ruining someones life to get off doesn't appeal to me.

Wanting to do something and being willing to go through the steps it would take to actually do it are two entirely different things and saying that if you aren't willing to do it then you don't actually want it is just flawed logic.

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2982ca  No.16936103

>>16936100

i'm not against loli dipshit. and all you've been doing is olympic level mental gymnastics to circle around the fact that the characters you get off are meant to represent children.

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b184c1  No.16936104

>>16936103

nobody was talking to (you) numskull.

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5b3651  No.16936105

>>16936101

>what's vague about it? kids aged 4-15. it's an universally agreed upon definition.

You must be severely mentally handicapped if you do not understand that a cartoon does not always directly translate into a real life representation on a 1 to 1 basis. That margin of error is called "interpretation" and it is different with every viewer.

I feel like I'm getting a rare glimpse into the mind of a real legislator. It would explain why so many of these sorts of obscenity laws are total shit.

>dumb fantasy crap

OK, please do your part by convincing the otaku/weeb community to stop calling fantasy lolis "lolis" then. Thanks in advance, partner. You'll thank me in a decade when you want to play a Japanese video game and it isn't banned from sale.

>>16936102

Ya know, I'm going to be blunt. I think you're just projecting your rape urges onto everyone else. I don't know what else to say since you keep insisting that I am a violent person, despite a lifetime of enjoying violent video games and not having urges to commit violence. And the funny thing is, I actually come from a family with anger issues. My uncles have almost hurt me and my mother a few times, and I used to have a shorter temper when I was younger. I don't want to shoot demons, they'd probably tear me to shreds. I don't want to shoot soldiers because I don't want to fight in a war and I don't believe most causes in the real world are worth fighting for. I certainly don't want to hurt completely random bystanders that I've never met but I have done that in GTA5 to hear their silly voice lines. People are different and most of them do not have these urges.

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505f09  No.16936106

>>16936105

>a cartoon does not always directly translate into a real life representation on a 1 to 1 basis

Further evidence is jesse from pokemon. Acts and looks like someone in their 20s yet shes written down as being fucking 12.

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67ae13  No.16936107

>>16936105

When did I even say you had urges to commit violence in real life? Have you just been arguing with a strawman this entire time?

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b432a1  No.16936108

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16936087

>counterstrike for kids

More like CS FOR PUSSIES!

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2982ca  No.16936109

>>16936105

jesus you are a fucking imbecile. i don't even know what to say anymore. "characters who look and act like kids aren't meant to represent kids man they are 3000 year old dragons."

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5b3651  No.16936110

>>16936107

>The old "Haha I was wasting your time this whole time buddy did you really think I was saying that"

>Even when he cited the post where he said this just a few posts ago

<Using your hand to jerk your dick off to drawings of naked kids is nothing like fucking a kid either but wanting to do that alone tells you enough about a persons interests.

>"You are interested in committing violence because you play violent video games."

The joke's on you because you wasted as much time as I did.

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2982ca  No.16936112

File: f002406077070e1⋯.png (1.29 MB, 1200x1788, 100:149, b2757472a0869224e54e12aeaa….png)

you can't even guess the age of this character man it's impossible

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5b3651  No.16936113

>>16936109

>i don't even know what to say anymore.

That makes two of us, partner. Maybe try actually reading the topic of this thread and realizing that it is a borderline case that doesn't fit into your completely brain dead black and white worldview instead of jumping into an argument without any form of context.

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67ae13  No.16936114

>>16936110

Yeah you've just been strawmanning, I never once said you're interested in committing violence in real life or have urges to do it, simply that you enjoy depictions of it the same way pedos enjoy the depictions of naked kids that the japs are pumping out.

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5b3651  No.16936115

>>16936112

>Oh shit, I realized that my point was completely retarded, quick inject a cherry-picked example

Great, now you just have to debunk the uncountable other types of "loli" pictures out there.

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2982ca  No.16936116

>>16936113

>more mental diarrhea

ok.

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505f09  No.16936117

>>16936116

Your entire argument has been nothing but mental diarrhea.

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5b3651  No.16936118

>>16936114

Then why do you keep comparing it to your urge to rape women?

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2982ca  No.16936119

>>16936117

my entire argument is that kid characters, who look like kids, who behave like kids, and who are canonically kids, are indeed kids. your entire argument is denial that this is the case.

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302b41  No.16936120

File: a6e913062338c2a⋯.jpg (147.66 KB, 600x800, 3:4, 1589232155_1.jpg)

>>16936087

Depends. If it's made by a Jap its shit.

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2982ca  No.16936121

>>16936115

>cherrypicked

as opposed to your oppai loli.

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67ae13  No.16936122

>>16936118

I don't have an urge to rape women, on the contrary I stated I have no urge to rape women at all because I don't want to ruin someones entire life just to get off, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still into rape and looking at rape porn gets my dick hard.

Yes if it was between me and some subservient simp with a femdom fetish I would be the potential rapist of the two of us just like if it was between you and a pacifist monk thats never even killed an insect in their entire life you would be the potential violent offender of the two of you.

Whether or not that potential actually amounts to anything isn't even relevant.

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5b3651  No.16936123

>>16936119

No. Your argument is that "loli" is a clear-cut term. It clearly fucking isn't.

>>16936121

Yes, because I only needed one example to show you that "loli" does not mean "kids." That's how burden of proof works.

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67ae13  No.16936124

>>16936123

Thats like saying posting a dickgirl is proof that women can have penises.

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2982ca  No.16936125

>>16936123

>Your argument is that "loli" is a clear-cut term. It clearly fucking isn't.

it is. you being in denial about it is completely separate.

>"loli" does not mean "kids."

poju boys have impossible anatomy too. they are still young boys. and the artist isn't in denial about it.

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5b3651  No.16936126

>>16936124

Jesus Christ, it's like you two have never argued with another human being in your life.

Language is a thing that changes as people use it. If a significant number of people use "loli" for weird art that does not correlate to real kids, that is easy to demonstrate. "Dickgirl," similarly to "loli," is a term that is never used to describe women in real life, so your analogy does not even begin to make any sense. The term used is "tranny" or "trap" and the definition of both of those things are very clear because they are rooted in biology, a system which does not change. There is no such grounding system in the abstract space of cartoons.

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505f09  No.16936127

>>16936124

>Your evidence doesn't count because I say so

Are you fucking 4 years old?

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67ae13  No.16936129

>>16936126

Language changing is the entire root of the problem because the western world has taken a word that literally translates to pedophile in japanese and bastardized it because the pedo hysteria in the west is too much for them to just accept who they are.

>>16936127

His evidence doesn't count because just like oppai loli isn't proof that lolis aren't kids dickgirls aren't proof that girls have dicks.

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5b3651  No.16936130

>>16936129

>>16936125

Well, gee, if you're going to make it that easy for me, then I'm just going to cite Retard #2's post over here:

>>16936109

>"characters who look and act like kids aren't meant to represent kids man they are 3000 year old dragons."

How many checkboxes do I need before the character isn't a kid to you. Is giant balloon tits AND being a 3000 year old dragon not enough? What about having a face that looks like a fucking beanbag with two eyes that are half the size of their face? Is that still too realistic for you? At what point do I get to throw you in a mental asylum for your lack of ability to discern cartoons for reality?

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505f09  No.16936131

File: 5c92bbfa47f3f0b⋯.gif (1.18 MB, 353x300, 353:300, 5c92bbfa47f3f0b60ecfab9593….gif)

>>16936129

>just like oppai loli isn't proof that lolis aren't kids dickgirls aren't proof that girls have dicks.

None of that made any sense, stop arguing from emotion already.

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b432a1  No.16936132

File: 7d186f9d79be238⋯.jpg (82.81 KB, 1962x1362, 327:227, mijngodreagerenjullienogst….jpg)

ITT:

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67ae13  No.16936134

>>16936130

Being a 3000 year old dragon is totally irrelevant actually, if you took what you were most attracted to and changed nothing about their body or personality except that they've only been alive 2 years would your dick instantly shrink inside your body?

Oppai loli isn't lolicon in the same way dick girls aren't vanilla porn, they appeal to entirely different demographics.

If you go to any loli thread anywhere and start posting oppai shit you will get fucked 6 ways from sunday.

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5b3651  No.16936137

>>16936134

>Being a 3000 year old dragon is totally irrelevant actually,

You think no one gets turned on by the idea of fucking a being who is so powerful they are 3000 years old and can change their shape at will? Buddy, you've got a lot more interneting to do.

>if you took what you were most attracted to and changed nothing about their body or personality except that they've only been alive 2 years

How do you do that without compromising the mental image of the character in the viewer? As I stated just now, yes, this would necessarily annihilate the attraction because it goes from a fantasy of being used by something powerful to taking advantage of a kid. Sexual attraction does not come just from visual stimulus even in men.

>Oppai loli isn't lolicon in the same way dick girls aren't vanilla porn, they appeal to entirely different demographics.

Probably, but if I don't defend "loli" then "oppai loli" will get vanquished too, in all likelihood.

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b184c1  No.16936138

File: d11c90ad7285a6b⋯.jpg (43.36 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 5454.jpg)

>>16936129

>Language changing is the entire root of the problem because the western world has taken a word that literally translates to pedophile in japanese.

that's incorrect loli is a take off on "Lolita complex" they have a medical/physiological term for pedophile (ペドフィリア) loli and lolicon are completely separated from this word. please stop spreading misinformation

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67ae13  No.16936139

>>16936138

Explain why this image is phrased this way then: >>16936079

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5b3651  No.16936140

>>16936139

That comic book publisher is not the definitive authority on sexual psychology.

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b184c1  No.16936142

>>16936139

I already did, the term is derived from the English phrase “Lolita complex,” lolicon describes a fascination with "cartoons" of very young-looking girls engaged in varying degrees of erotic behavior. (The word can be used to describe both the genre and its aficionados.

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cb9b6f  No.16936143

>>16936137

If someone is fapping to those characters just because they're thousands of years old and thats whats getting them off then that doesn't really pertain to what we're talking about does it?

Aside from that in a world where physicality, personality, and age are mutually independant why would it be relevant if the big titty hentai babe riding your dick was literally born yesterday or not? If simply not asking their age is the answer to the problem then its not much of a problem if you ask me.

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cb9b6f  No.16936144

>>16936142

>A happy healthy life can be lived by people who are satisfied being lolicons in their imagination only

Heaven forbid they go out and molest those cartoons, right?

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b184c1  No.16936145

>>16936140

>>16936139

its meant to be a joke, if you see how the characters are styled and the loli looks like a parody of a famous anime character.

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2982ca  No.16936146

>>16936142

>before you think of suicide or commiting a crime consult a doctor

what crime could it possibly be refering to I wonder?

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599ab9  No.16936147

>>16936062

Esther won. Julay is dead.

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b184c1  No.16936148

File: 306fd30721968ac⋯.png (793.24 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, fx1Q4oD.png)

File: 40bef22a3446d5a⋯.png (5.75 MB, 2660x2048, 665:512, 773d4c70304a725f326ce95603….png)

>>16936146

if it was serious the styling wold be different and they would use the word (ペドフィリア). if you have ever watched a loli anime you would know that extreme gilt and social awkwardness are all played for laughs. (check out Ryuuou no Oshigoto!) (pics related)

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a67c03  No.16936149

>>16936147

That's the game anti-loli fags are going to play now.

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cb9b6f  No.16936150

>>16936148

>>16936145

No way all those disclaimers and mental health tips are all an ebin maymay, they're legitimately trying to help the pedophiles they know are the ones interested in lewd doujins featuring kids.

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0f13e7  No.16936238

>>16936150

Of course they are. Lolicons are pedophiles, and while it might carry a stigma to admit being one in Japan, it's not a complete social suicide like it is in the rest of the world. Not yet anyway.

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e7fbce  No.16936249

>>16936132

It's just three qboomers being retarded

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