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You should explain what the fuck the game is like, for newfags who haven't played the first one

>Make a loli

>Has to marry

Uhh…. I prefer to make a male character and marry a cute girl that has a noble bow.

>>16905077

It is the fucking shit bro. You should play Warband. You don't have to right now though because bannerlord is 200 years in the past so you don't get plate armour and warhammers and stuff like that.

Bannerlord is not really finished so maybe Warband might be better to play so you can get some hype for when Bannerlord is finished it is really rough at the moment but enjoyable.

Does it run now likt shit right now

>>16905083

It is working much better now after 1 week there have been almost daily patches. You can give it a play now and then forget about it for 6 months.

Any mods with guns? how do they play? i hope the game lets projectiles ignore shields like a bullet would do.

How is the multiplayer? Same as before? worse? better?

>northern empire

>southern empire

>western empire

why the fuck did they add so many of these?

I tried play it but it got stuck in loading after press campaign I think it's because I tried play on an onboard, did they fix it that?

*finished

Fuck

>>16905123

Okay, but

>3 nearly identical factions next to each other that use the same troop tree

what the fuck niggler, that does not look fun

When are they going to improve the performance? I know my computer is shit but I'm not the only one who's been complaining about performance

>>16905136

its one big faction split in 3, they fractured a bit before the player enters the game.

>>16905142

When you're making a game, the last thing you think about is performance. So I'd say in 2 years.

>>16905116

They are in a civil war.

>>16905078

There's a mod to let your loli marry girls.

>>16905133

Year+

>>16905156

Neat.

Banner in OP pic. It looks cool, but light green gets really tiresome on armor.

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>>16905206

You skipped the part where they actually made tournament rewards not complete shit.

>>16905236

They capped those at 2k didn't they? How is that not shit? Not to mention the nerfs to the money and xp, and the renown being worth less than bandits.

>>16905244

Who cares about the money, they made it so that they give more than the same 5 swords and horses.

>>16905250

So completely worthless and a waste of time. Time that should be spent on bug fixes and fixing the broken fucking perks instead of nerfs to shit that didn't need to be nerfed.

>>16905254

Tournaments not giving XP and giving jack shit were one of the main complaints. If you have specific issues you want to see fixed, go on the forums and complain there.

>>16905255

>Tournaments not giving XP and giving jack shit were one of the main complaints

Wtf are you even talking about? That didn't even get fixed. They nerfed the xp gain and they made the rewards shit.

reminder to smash people on horseback with the fine menaviliton for 280-300+ damage, become the lawnmower of your dreams, who needs couched damage?

I wonder how will the multilayer affect the singleplayer this time around? With how big it is right now and how many people are playing online I can easily see people complaining that this or that is overpowered and the devs would be changing things to please the ones playing online and meanwhile fuck up the singleplayer.

>>16905476

I see no reason why they can't just balance each separately. Also a lot of people played the multiplayer of warband and nobody complained about the balance.

>>16905069

>What kind of character are you playing?

I'll be playing all of the factions eventually, but right now I'm doing Batannia.

>What are they doing?

Trying to survive since I started a new save because the king suddenly went to war with three factions at once and got fucked hard. There's no recovery once you get your shit pushed in hard enough and I didn't feel like sitting that one out or joining another faction.

The renown grind is killing me right now.

>>16905476

I'm pretty sure they balance both independently.

>>16905486

>There's no recovery once you get your shit pushed in hard enough

My biggest problem with singleplayer right now. Once your faction becomes the strongest on the continent there is no longer any competition at all. Diplomacy between states to create alliances between the weaker nations dont exist yet and the mercenary system just makes everything worse because instead of being employed by the nations that need mercenaries usually the strongest faction just gobbles them all up and never gives em back so they can run around with 3 1k armies while the enemy struggles to keep up 1-2. Only time my faction actually lost a city was while being at war with 3 factions at the same time and we still made a net gain of 2 cities that war. Atleast the game goes on for longer than 150 days with the war attrition mod but there should really be new ways for weaker factions to make a comeback like making their ai prefer getting the mercenaries or implementing alliances because right now if 2 factions are at war and there is a 1000 or more total strength difference the war is basically decided.

Can i be a merc fighting for others just going from battle to battle and buying shit for myself or the game is still completely focused on managing a army and trying to become nobility?

anyone figured a reliable way of increasing reputation with villages?

or making the village leaders become more influent, so their troops improve?

>>16905523

>Can i be a merc fighting for others just going from battle to battle and buying shit for myself or the game is still completely focused on managing a army and trying to become nobility?

You can remain a merc but it'll be boring as shit because most of the battles are one sided as fuck. The only way to have any fun is to fight armies 1:1 on equal footing. In those battles its really fun but they're rare. Same applies with Sieges.

>>16905629

>Local lord herding his peasants

>bannerlord is 200 years in the past

So that is why in every single gameplay video I've watched your troops look like fucking sub 50 IQ peasants? I wanted to play Bannerlord to build outer heaven and a colossal veteran army of full-armored warriors. But if all we get is shitty leather armor and chainmail then there is no point.

>>16905647

Meant for >>16905081

>>16905647

there is better armor, you can see it on high tier empire troops and nobles but i have never seen it spawn

>>16905629

It's good to see the AI accurately simulates the IQ of medieval peasants.

And peasant bashing is a grand tradition of Mount and Blade. They had to replace the feeling of having plate armor for the first time and strolling right into the nearest village to single-handedly burn it down while slaughtering all the inhabitants and only taking a single point of damage somehow, what with the armor nerf.

>>16905691

install the war attrition mod from nexus so peace is declared after about 2-3 sieges. I HEAVILY recommend it to make the game take longer to conclude. There will still be 1-2 factions that will become objectively the strongest but there is a chance for this to be turned around if they get to war with multiple other ones because smaller factions get some peacetime to rebuild their armies

>>16905680

>You can find the best bows and shields in towns with carpenters, and tanners make the best light armors. But it all takes time to appear.

Can you now build multiple businesses in a single town or are you relying on the AI for these/farm multiple cities?

>Fixed a bug that allowed players to repeatedly create and destroy new parties after reaching each clan tier to take the starting troops of the new party into their own. Player created parties now start with just 1 hero.

>Kingdoms at war with powerful enemies will now offer higher payments for mercenaries. In addition to this, the ruler's economical situation is important too while determining payment. With this change, mercenary factions will now generally prefer to take a contract from factions which have powerful enemies and rich rulers

>Mercenaries are less likely to join kingdoms immediately and will instead wait for a decent offer. With these additions, there is a bigger difference between payments offered by different kingdoms to mercenaries (changes between 30-300 denars per influence).

>Players can now hire mercenary factions to their own kingdoms via dialogue (using the same formula as above)

actual nice things in 1.0.8

but 1.0.7 is so trash it's not enough yet

>>16905753

Submit bugs on the official forums if you want them fixed.

>>16905865

it was not bugs, it's gay shit like -65% horse drop and making tournaments even worse

>>16905123

>I guess that means i can no longer cheese entire armies with 2 huscarl shields

They still work mostly the same as before in terms of coverage, but the directions give you more options for blocking. It seems that they tried to make the attacking and blocking more dynamic. For example spear users can now stab from different angles so they aren't completely fucked by anyone with a shield, or anyone who can block downward.

>>16905483

>nobody complained about the balance

Don't make me laugh anon. Almost everyone complained about 2h spam and 1h spam with no shield.

>>16905883

>spear users arent completely fucked

hahah no they still are if they are not using a head sized shield

How the fuck is the mangonel actually useful in sieges? unless im controlling it wrong the wall mounted mangonel literally cannot hit the invading army whatsoever and half the time the things are pointed at the gate (but cant actually land a shot near the gate)

>>16905887

I've only just started playing because I was waiting to see how compatible it is with Proton. Turns out I can get it to run just fine. It's possible that spears still have a hard time on anything other than horseback or against horseback, but I was glad that you can stab from different angles. Hopefully the overhead stab will let you get over some shields at least.

>>16905887

I haven't had the chance to try the siege weapons on the defending side yet, but you know you can set the range on it, right?

>>16905901

where do you interact to do so quickly?

>>16905912

You get on it and, if I remember right, use W and S or the arrow keys. You should see a metal slide on the wooden beam with notches on it to roughly indicate the range.

>>16905102

>i hope the game lets projectiles ignore shields like a bullet would do.

I was looking through the module files, and it looks like there is a flag called CanPenetrateShield used for items like the fire pot that you can't block. To make any item pierce through shields, all you have to do is add CanPenetrateShield="true" to any of the weapons. Things like the details of loading a weapon are already in the game, so the only thing keeping a genuine gun mod from existing is having the mesh/texture actually be imported into the game, since the code obviously supports them already.

Side note, I've been looking through the files to find out why I've never found a crossbow other than the generic "Crossbow". Has anyone found other crossbows? There are heavy, light, bound, fine, and hickory (empire) crossbows, and even an arbalest (vlandian). But I haven't found a single one of those crossbows, and neither have any of my friends. I can't see anything that would keep these items from spawning.

>>16905969

I hate it and it's uncanny, 10/10

>>16905969

Looks like a massive bitch.

>>16905680

>I am about 12 years into the game

How long would you say a bannerlord year in real time including things like tournaments and battles?

>>16905989

My save states that it's approximately a thousand days, but I'm in year 1097. That would make each in-game year roughly 80 days. I haven't really watched the calendar, but it's currently "Spring 18". I guess it's 20 days of spring, summer, autumn, and winter. I fast forwarded time and it switched to summer on the 20th day, so I think that's about right. Aging seems to occur 1:1 with in-game years, as my children are aging up as I'd expect. My baby factory recently gave me a stillborn, so I assume her fertility is dropping with age, although I don't know at what age she will stop producing children.

Or are you asking how long I've physically played per year? If that's the case, each year varied a lot. I did a lot more tournaments when I was younger, and peaceful years went by a lot faster. Wars actually cause time to progress faster. Fighting large battles and war planning take time, but I pass so much time sieging and marching armies. My total playtime is over 90 hours. I am having fun.

>>16905969

looks more greek than asian.

>>16906021

So a character could live for around 8 irl years?

Seems like the newest patch might have fixed the main (or all) memory leaks.

Is it worth pirating for the singleplayer or is M&B meant to be enjoyed in multiplayer?

>>16906397

No it is meant to be enjoyed in singleplayer. Only niggers play multiplayer.

Hello fellow merchants,

When in the trade menu looking at trade rumors some rumors are faded text, but I haven't figured out what that means, anybody?

>>16906406

I'm assuming it means the rumor is less recent, meaning the price will likely be different once you get there depending on how long it takes you to travel.

>>16906420

seems likely enough, but in my experience even the regular rumors can be well dead before you arrive. so, ii'm not sure what the point of faded old rumors would be.

>>16906428

Yeah, I've noticed the same. All depends on if any caravans arrived before you did with the same wares you were planning to sell, I think.

Started a new game (round 2)..

took me 70 days to get 17k gold so I could buy a shop. Way better than last game but still feels like shit considering I didn't do anything else but whore trade routes.

Man this game is a mess, what the fuck happened to slavers, bounty hunters and patrols, and why don't the stacks scale anymore, it's hard to find a 60 stack of looters for fast levelling, and on top of that passively levelling your units is no longer a great exploit to raise fast armies of tier 4+ units, which used to let you easily dunk on enemy parties which were normally 50% recruits

I found a neat trick, you can stock up any of your properties by filling your milita with your own units, it lets you keep units to defend a base and they won't cost you a cent. You can also take milita from those stacks if you have at least 1 unit of the same type in your party. You can exploit this by removing militia and placing them in a single well stocked location with those understocked militias producing multiple units per day, this will allow you to stock up your main bases with hundreds if not thousands of units making enemy armies unable to actually conquer your towns, and all it cost you was a whole lot of tedium.

>>16906453

You need to figure out what towns actually want, I can normally buy a shop by Autumn, also you should plan what shops to actually buy, I know Epricotea has 2 iron mines, Jaculan has 3 olive orchards.

>>16906453

Are they even worth it now that they fixed the money glitch and nerfed profits into the ground? I never earn more than 100~150 denars from them per day. I'd make much more just manually running trades.

Are caravans any more profitable?

>>16906461

>Are caravans any more profitable?

yes, but cost an follower, which then you can't use as governor

Trade tip: items with the same icon share supply and demand. Iron ore shares the same supply and demand as crude iron and steel, and charcoal shares it with hardwood. A place like Lycaron that grows a high demand for iron ore will pay absolute fuckin' premium prices for steel ingots, whether you refine it or smelt down weapons. This also applies to horses, so selling a horse will reduce the price for any other horses you also are selling.

>>16906461

>Are caravans any more profitable?

My caravan earns between 500 and 2100 gold every day, and runs 300 gold in maintenance. Profits usually drop shortly after a war declaration, presumably because my caravan stops trading and begins fleeing to a safe location. My caravan has never been defeated once. The only downside to caravans is the cost of a companion, because it paid itself off in two weeks.

>>16906459

How do you interact with your militia? I can interact with my garrisons, but you still pay upkeep for garrisons, and every 20 garrison units reduces the food for the city/castle by 1.

>>16906299

Well, I suppose. I don't know what the old age number is in bannerlord. I'm already in my 40s. Time goes by faster and faster the more I understand the game, so I'll probably die of old age if I end up playing another 150-200 hours. I assume in that case that I choose one of my children as my heir on my death bed.

>>16906480

>Trade tip: items with the same icon share supply and demand. Iron ore shares the same supply and demand as crude iron and steel, and charcoal shares it with hardwood. A place like Lycaron that grows a high demand for iron ore will pay absolute fuckin' premium prices for steel ingots, whether you refine it or smelt down weapons. This also applies to horses, so selling a horse will reduce the price for any other horses you also are selling

Can't you abuse the shit out of the system with it?

Also, remember kids, caravans share the prices with cities, so you can fuck with a city that really needs iron by buying all it's iron and then sell steel to passing caravans, extra bonus if you sell to leaving caravans rather than when they come in

holy shit 8chan is fucking dying, can't post

>>16906480

When you enter a town there's a little red panel next to the panel with the people of importance of the town, select that, then the militia and choose to donate units, it's great having massive garrisons that cost you nothing, I hope this exploit doesn't get patched out.

>>16906480

>My caravan earns between 500 and 2100 gold every day, and runs 300 gold in maintenance. Profits usually drop shortly after a war declaration, presumably because my caravan stops trading and begins fleeing to a safe location. My caravan has never been defeated once. The only downside to caravans is the cost of a companion, because it paid itself off in two weeks.

I haven't played much yet, so let me ask this one. About the the companion you assign to the caravan, I heard it is good if it is a strong fighter type, though isn't if the caravan is somehow caught anyway it would be over? Is there any point in arming the person you assign to it?

>>16906492

>meat is 40g

<laughs in Imperial

I can get it for less than 25 easily.

My horses are nowhere near that cheap though. This game has a working economy so the same trade strategy does not apply everywhere. I mostly trade in salt and wine in my local area (southern Empire) when I can, but I just got enough money to start participating in wars as a mercenary with a semirespectable party and that is far more lucrative. I got 1200 denars just from the plundered gold in one battle. I basically maxed Leadership focus during chargen and it seems to be paying off now.

>>16906459

>What the fuck happened to slavers, bounty hunters and patrols

Aren't those the various single party independent factions roaming the map everywhere?

So they caped the amount of money a shop can produce to 200 right?

>>16906498

>>16906492

meat base price is 30 I think

goes green at 24, not sure when it goes red

or was it 24 base price goes green at 18?

need to check prices dude

Money isnt a concern in this game anyway. Bully some looters or do 3 quests or so for starting money. Then start trade route of your choice. Personally I like selling iron to the sandniggers and coming back with beer because its a very short trip and they almost always need iron which is the main profitmaker in this. By the way dont be retarded, buy everything in villages for trading dont buy in towns, they just mark up the price. Cutting out the jewish middle man saves tons of money. Once you got enough for 2 caravans which are way better than workshops at the moment you can just go afk and get money for free. Make some more workshops and caravans if you can spare the companions. Get into a faction and farm influence until 300 so you can win a fief vote almost assuredly. Once you get your first city you will never have money trouble ever again

t. Imperial millionaire

>>16906516

>By the way dont be retarded, buy everything in villages for trading dont buy in towns, they just mark up the price.

You sure they didn't patch that? When I looked, everything seemed more expensive there.

>>16906504

>>16906498

Yeah of course it fluxulates, but it first game I made some good coin trading in the dessert, Askar has grain for 4 gold and mules for 75-ish, sumpter horses for 50-70g, plus all the regular shit to trade. But after a few thousand gold it feels dried up here, profits going to shit so moving on to something else.

>>16906516

Yeah, it feels like killing looters is same-ish gold as trading, plus XP for troops.

>Somebody give me the gist of marriage. Do I want to marry a fighting lady or domesticated child factory?

>>16906501

>single party independent factions

Not the same thing, I haven't seen single party factions but I have seen independent factions, but these can be vassalized like other clans.

>>16906489

The caravan starts with a few caravan guards and armed traders, but if you catch the caravan in town, you can trade units with it. Otherwise, my caravan leader has recruited soldiers from the towns they have went to, which is why their wages are so high. I would assume a fully staffed caravan would prevent the occasional mutant bandit blob of mountain raiders or steppe bandits from even trying to chase it, so I haven't intervened. She's been trading on her own for approximately a decade without being captured. I haven't bothered to try, but I would also assume filling the caravan with nothing but cheap cavalry units would give it a big speed boost, generating more money while making sure they can outrun anything.

For a caravan leader, I guess higher trade skill just results in more profits. Higher scouting would let them detect threats sooner, but since nobody has actually caught my caravan, the movement speed from scouting is probably more valuable than the scouting radius. I started my caravan early in the game, so I just threw a random rogue hero on the caravan.

>>16906521

>Somebody give me the gist of marriage. Do I want to marry a fighting lady or domesticated child factory?

Both. Your wife can be a high-quality hero in your party while still giving you over a dozen children. Seconds after child birth, my wife is pregnant again. In fact, since you have to be at the same location as your wife to make children, having them be useful is a good idea if you also want to have a lot of children.

>>16906521

>Yeah, it feels like killing looters is same-ish gold as trading, plus XP for troops.

You gotta find one of the trade routes that never dry up, then you can make gold much faster with trading. Just beating looters is easy too but it would take way too long for my tastes

>>16906528

>>16906521

Personally I found that going from town to town and buying whatever's green, and selling whatever is not, is better because wiping out hideouts seems to be good gold and XP and you need to keep moving all over for that. I'd frequently get warhorses to sell, or expensive armor. And it raises relations with everyone nearby.

>>16906533

if you see an hideout with a single party

Immediately go over it

It will end instantly into that 'boss' fight which ends in a single swipe of your glaive/axe

I do it for the reputation alone, since gear is much easier to get from enemy lords by playing mercenary for someone

>>16906763

Yeah the relations bonus alone is worth it for sure. Just make sure you have guys with shields if you're going to attack forest bandits. They kinda have the advantage in those scenarios because they will surround you and shoot you from all sides sometimes.

What difficulty are you guys playing on? I don't want to switch to Easy but Realistic is honestly pretty tiring in the early game.

>>16906772

recruit, movement and player damage on easy, everything else realistic

>>16906772

Just play on half damage. The difficulty spike from Easy to Realistic is massive unless you want to resign yourself to trade and auto battles. I've played M&B since before it was known as Warband and I still don't play on Realistic, but I'm also rusty.

>>16906772

I like realistic other than player damage, which is at 2/3. Gives you enough leeway to jump into combat without dying to a single stray arrow, but not enough to go and solo a siege or anything.

Anyone know how to make more money from worshops? My wood workshoponly makes about 230 at most (give or take).

Also, i can't find any forest bandits. I want to find a small amount of them so I can get a free bow and some arrows.

>>16906772

Realistic, but that's because I'm a glutton to punishment.

>>16906772

2/3 damage for me, realistic for my troops, speed and recruiting on easy. Death enabled, but I honestly don't know if it does anything.

>>16906830

You're earning the max money you can from workshops. The devs nerfed them into the ground because no fun allowed.

>>16906772

2/3 damage to player everything else on max is the most fun. I played on realistic for 10 hours and realistic damage you just die way too quickly so you're forced into fighting very conservatively.

>>16907206

>everyone is taking the easy route while i'm on all realistic

What the fuck.

>>16907212

I would play realistic if armor actually did something, but i took 65 damage from a javelin with 50+ overall armor and 1/3 dmg, this kind of bullshit is simply not fun.

>>16907212

I started like that until I spent most of my time on the map chasing starving looters while i had a trillion horses for my men. Now I play on realistic with boosted move speed. Fuck 3.0 speed

>>16907206

that horse is fucking jacked

>>16907259

Let's not lie, I'd jack that

>>16907084

>Workshops nerfed

>Caravans earn 3k per day

hm…

>>16907345

Having to send one of your limited companions to do it doesn't seem worth it to me. Not when you can just kill a bunch of peasants and melt down their shit.

only crossbow I've seen requires a 20 skill.

Does that mean if you don't start with crossbow skill that you can't ever use one?

Why do highlanders britiannia have no fucking armor at all?

What's the long game for becoming a faction leader? I can't seem to make a dent when I join a smaller faction like I could do in Warband (and you don't get dibs on shit you capture anyways) I don't think it's possible to solo snipe/hold a castle is it?

>>16907368

>Does that mean if you don't start with crossbow skill that you can't ever use one?

Tourneys and brawls give XP now and the weapons there dont have requirements.

>What's the long game for becoming a faction leader?

You can technically become king but its not implemented yet. You can not do diplomacy and you cant do kingdom management. Fief management is also borked. TL;DR there is no long game because there is no game at all.

>>16907377

oh. hmm. I was mislead by something I read about the dragon banner quest, I read if you left a kingdom and kept your fief you would be at war, but if you complete the quest the war would stop or something. So it sounded like it was all in-game.

One of the things I dislike about rpgs though I'm not saying its bad is the whole "build" paradim, mostly because I'm indecisive and don't know how to make good builds. Looking at the one handed and two handed skills the first options for both are either more health or more damage. It would make sense to boost the damage of the weapon I'll use for the rest of the game and take the health from the other one but I don't know which one I'll end up using, I know what I'm using now but that may change in the future.

>>16907212

I'm on all realisic except for health which is half damage

Realistic is a bit of a misnomer considering that armor is more protective in real life

>>16907386

If you have the banner and leave the kingdom with your fiefs, youre at peace and can never declare war or negotiate peace, you can only get war declared on you or enemies suing you for peace. So basically if you found your own kingdom you softlock yourself from the actual game for several hours until someone declares war on you.

Is chasing around looters and auto fighting SERIOUSLY the only way to level troops? God damn, this is aids. What happened to the trainer skill from before? I have the perk that gives xp "boosts" to various units but I don't know what that means. It's clearly not a daily boost, so it must mean an increase in exp gained from combat, but it hardly feels impactful.

The unfun learning cap system needs to be redone

Change attributes and focus points into skill bonuses and leave the learning rate at maximum for all skills at all times

>>16907259

>8 legs

Imagine.

>>16907493

90% of the game's mechanics need to be redone. I'm seriously thinking of going back to Warband and giving Bannerlord a few more months of patches.

>>16907469

Use the Bannerlord Tweaks mod. It helps with that and other stuff.

>>16907516

you gotta walk around town and talk to the respective people.

caravan guy is in the market somewhere and you can hold down alt to find the workshops.

>>16907511

no but i saw a noble who was friends with one baby and enemies with 3.

>>16907355

Honestly I'm amazed more fantasy settings don't depict women as Greek heroes that can shit out babies and be fine the next morning. It explains their ability/willingness to fight.

>>16907469

I think you may have chosen the wrong perk. I made a guy with high starting leadership and was able to passively train recruits. I believe you can also assign a companion to complete an issue and the men you send along with them will gain XP.

>>16907519

Thanks, invested in a caravan but it hasn't really payed back. Been a good two weeks now. It's only gotten a few more guards, other than that 0 income. Probably needs more time but is there anything else I could do with it?

>>16907716

I think that means your caravan is being chased off or waylaid by bandits. If they can't get to where they need to go, they can't make money.

New update is here. Mostly crash fixes, nothing really exciting. Beware though, it seems like it broke my save files as none of them will load now. If you care at all about your progress it might be better to stay on 1.0.9.

>>16907771

Yeah, that happened to my first save as well. The last update broke it because it causes the game to crash every time I go into the party screen for some reason – I think it happens when it tries to load the portraits of one of the Aserai soldiers. It's early access so I'm not really that surprised, but I would have thought the saves would break less frequently. Hopefully they become less frequent as development goes on.

Been going on a killing spree of the desert men. Got them down to a dozen lords, including mercs. One unfortunate problem I noticed with this is the game is overly broad on who gets a penalty. Killing mercenaries impacts your relationship with their current employer, killing employers impacts your current relationship with mercenaries, and anyone with any positive relationship with the executed (even a +2 from compatible traits) is instantly your worst enemy. This means killing Hidden Hand mercs made the Aesari my enemies, killing the Aeserai made the Legion of the Damned my enemy, and killing the Legion of the Damned made the leader of the Western Empire hate me (thankfully just him) because one of them casually met the guy. It also means a lot of random notables in Aesari teritory hate me. Reported as a bug.

>>16907587

That perk does pretty much nothing without mods. It adds like 1/30th of the XP needed for basic recruits to promote ONE unit.

>>16907838

>It adds like 1/30th of the XP needed for basic recruits to promote ONE unit.

Hmm. I guess it could have just been the battles I fought. Maybe there is some scaling with the amount of XP troops gain after battles. I know that's a bonus the Vlandians get.

>>16907855

I'm pretty sure that's a bug. I've seen it happen sometimes, then stop happening at other random times. Also, my character has high trade so I would expect to be able to see that if they somehow nerfed it or gated it behind a higher skill.

>>16907838

>That perk does pretty much nothing without mods. It adds like 1/30th of the XP needed for basic recruits to promote ONE unit.

one mod fix the amount to be 1x for each unit rather than 1x for each stack, and each party member contributes to the amount

>>16907855

>>16907865

Yeah, I've had those comparisons stop working and then start again. No idea why.

It wouldn't make sense to gate that behind a skill because it's just a UI convenience. The information is all still there anyway, the tooltip just saves you the trouble of looking back and forth between the two weapons.

>>16907871

I bet it's a conflict with the trade skill implementation

Because it always works at the start of the game for me, then stops working

So I bet it's when you take the trade skill to highlight the price, it overrides the default equipment comparison

>>16907855

Good to see the guy who was told by his dad he wasn't a fucking dinosaur grew up into what he wanted to be

>>16907513

>>16907551

I noticed my brother was in the same place, I think he might be carrying their bodies around

>>16907498

Yea I've stopped playing for the time being. Everything's way too broken or needs serious re-balancing which is still months away.

Anyone tried that dismemberment mod? Seems to be a lot of people complaining about crashes..

Are forrest bandits an endangered species in every playthrough or just mine? I'm trying to get a free bow but I can only find groups of 10 forrest bandits at maximum and the game is so stingy with the bow drop rate that it won't drop a bow for anything less than 20 bandits.

It's been so long that I have more than enough money to buy bows, but I refuse to do so out of principle.

>>16908800

Get the mod that increases the bandit/peasant count. I'm using the x3 version myself, but I think it goes as high as x5.

>>16908800

Ranged weapon calculations are borked to the point some bows will never drop due to their calculated price. Basically bow prices are being increased exponentially which is why you see 77k bows in the market despite being somewhat eh.

>>16908414

>270 reach glaive

i could parry that with my hand, do you have any idea how awkward that thing would be to use

>>16908924

>He doesn't play as literally Lu Bu

e.1.1.0 Beta Branch is out, the patch is a whopping 2.3 gigs.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/261550/announcements/detail/2199387653447817592

>>16908924

So awkward that it was glitched, i reloaded the save today and the speed dropped so much it started hitting people like a wet noodle, had to craft a new smaller one.

>>16908800

Try looking in the massive forests around Phycaon or however it's spelled. It's near the starting point in the Empire area. There's always forest bandits there when I play. You might just have to look for a hideout though.

>>16909012

If you read their post, they aren't really doing anything special in terms of their pipeline, they're just exposing more parts of the pipeline for download via Steam. This isn't really any different from many pieces of community software like Wine which have a stable, development, and staging branch. On the plus side, their beta branch seems to address what a lot of people in this thread are complaining about

> Level 1 characters now start with 120 skill points.

>Reduced XP required to learn higher skill levels.

>Troops can now upgrade more easily.

Reduced wanderers' skills outside their main area of expertise, making them easier to level up.

>Range weapon prices have been re-adjusted.

>>16909014

that seems much more in line with reality

sorry to ruin your fun anon

I just did some custom battles

500 archers vs 500 horse archers

Seems horse archers win hands down every single time no matter what you do

Most often your own archers can't fire because they are too close toguether, even when you can convince them to spread, they don't do it enough

Meanwhile the horse archers are all automatically spread apart thanks to having horses, and their extra height from horses might or might not help even further

>>16909076

Bruh 500 horse archers shit on everything, just like in real life. I would be surprised if there was a scenario you could set up in the game where 500 horse archers wouldnt wipe the floor with whatever you throw at them.

>>16909079

One thinking in VIDEOGAMES would assume that 500 archers should win against 500 horse archers if both are just staring at each other shooting

Yet the horse archers, without using the mobility advantage, still wins

>>16908775

Unfortunately most of it is cut out.

>>16909089

>>16908775

>>16908901

I attempted to re-size it. Unfortunately the retard who made that site didn't add a simple select-all and re-size tool so I had to re-make the thing. It's obviously not as good but hey, let me know how it looks like in-game now. I could probably do better but the half-assed site design pissed me off.

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>>16909079

>500 horse archers shit on everything, just like in real life.

Plate armor defeats even long-bows. Shitty mongoloid-tier sissy bows horse-archers use will barely make a dent. Then, you defeat the horse with either:

>Your own archers

>Spears/Polearms

>Your own cavalry

Horse archers only work when the enemy is retarded and didn't spend a single minute to come up with a counter.

>>16909135

>Plate armor defeats even long-bows

I was about to find some videos shitting on that, but actually, I found two that conforms to the idea that plate armor shits on arrows, even huge ass double lever crossbows can't penetrate, they bend it, but the wearer would be using so much padding below, that he wouldn't even feel it

>>16909069

Honestly two-handed weapons were always OP as fuck to anyone with a degree of skill in this game, they didn't really need any more help.

>>16909079

Horse archers can't use the bows with real penetrating power on horseback, like noble long bows and shit, because they are too large and have too high a draw weight. They're also worthless in sieges. Otherwise yeah, they're excellent, just be sure you aren't fighting cataphracts or sieging a castle.

>>16909148

Common misconception is that longbows were amazing because they annihilated the French at Agincourt. The French got annihilated because their knights were cocky and impetuous after a successful campaign and charged without orders across a huge muddy field when the English had set up an excellent position. Then the archers just aimed for their horses. Many of the knights died from being trampled or suffocated in the mud as a result and the infantry just mopped up the rest. Longbows were useful in the late medieval period, but not for the reason most people seem to believe.

Beta performance fixes seem to really do the trick when it comes to stutters, feels a lot smoother. Anyone else tried it yet and fought some larger battles?

>>16909185

It definitely seems to make a difference. I haven't done any huge battles yet, but all of the scene transitions seem to be much faster and it adds up. Even saving the game seems to be faster. I think notice the difference in levelling speed as well.

>>16909184

All my settings were on the lowest because of the shitty performance in sieges last week. I'll change it now to see how it looks

>>16909185

No stutters is definitely great. It's also a bit faster when transitioning into combat.

>>16909184

>completely ignoring the fact that they couldn't siege shit and were gradually losing ground.

funny, because my horse archers excel at siege, since I don't send them until they finish pelting every single archer on the walls, then I just mow down the gate and bully the peasants holding line.

The siege AI might be good against a charging AI, but against a player, it is useless

>>16909210

They must have changed how sieges work then, because if I recall right in Warband you couldn't really hope to hit shit if you were on the ground shooting up at the walls. Especially if they had a ton of archers shooting down at you.

>>16909213

Charm seems to go up turbofast just by increasing relations and doing jobs now.

>>16909218

>They must have changed how sieges work then, because if I recall right in Warband you couldn't really hope to hit shit

The strategy of bullying defenders with archers has been a thing forever, I've been using it in warband too

There are some requisites though:

1 Having lots of archers (At least 75% of how many defenders there are)

2 Having better archers rather than mostly militia, like the defenders

3?(Bonus on Warband) Abuse the wonky terrain and find higher ground than the castle walls, happens more often than it should

3?Or taking so little amount of people that the enemies rush out to get pelted

>>16909235

I believe the amount of experience you got up to this point is saved, and when getting any exp, you will level up to whatever level your current saved experience will let you

>>16909002

Beta? Isn't there a ton of stuff that needs to be reworked like bow drop rates?

>>16909063

> Level 1 characters now start with 120 skill points.

>Reduced XP required to learn higher skill levels.

>Troops can now upgrade more easily.

So should I restart?

>>16909358

I did, but I think the changes apply to saved games too.

>>16909262

Now the player can finally not just be a weakling who's worse in every way compared to an npc.

>>16909383

That was always how you started out in M&B/Warband though. Much like Gothic or Morrowind

>>16909396

In Morrowind you could be a demigod within ten minutes of starting the game.

>>16909400

Technically you are a god the very moment you finish creating your character.

It doesn't seem like the banners in game are acutally centered properly, which is annoying. 0,0 is objectively the center of the flag but the game doesn't display it that way.

>>16909429

Yeah, it's annoying. I'm glad they finally fixed the broken symbols though.

>>16909416

How intoxicating

>>16909400

Yeah, but that's only primarily because of magic items. If you didn't have access to those, your stats are shit compared to virtually every NPC except the designated shittiest tier of bandits/slavers

>crashes before every battle

>crashes after every battle

>permanent loading screen on some sieges

>crashes if you leave it sit on your screen untouched for more than a few minutes

>completely fucking unstable

Literally unplayable. Eight fucking years, still in alpha, and still this bad. If anyone's still questioning the worthlessness of nonwhites, here it is.

Which is a shame, because I really liked the first one and I'd like this one too, if it wasn't such irredeemable garbage.

>>16909396

In the old system you pretty much hit the limit of growth really quickly so that you were always a gimped character that was significantly weaker than most npcs. Now they've re worked it should be theoretically possible to reach a similar level as them.

>>16909486

Have you tried the beta branch of the game?

>>16909486

>f anyone's still questioning the worthlessness of nonwhites, here it is

Making it about race all of a sudden made me laugh. Thanks

>>16909486

>Eight fucking years

Acktuhalaly it only started development four years ago

>but it was announced eight years ago

Yeah, and they only started working on it four years ago, from what I gather it was do to the company spliting or something

I'm using a laptop and I haven't had any of these problems

Did this patch make the game playable as in no more snowballing?

>>16910518

any sources anon? just curious how Euros Slowly adpated and beat the mongols at their game

>>16910549

it's mostly what i picked from my general knowledge for history, heavily reliying on what was the 8chan /his/ board before some psycho /pol/ac claimed the board, but as i stated, Europe didn't fought much aganist the Genghis Khan Khanate, its was mostly eastern Europe what held the ground from the few attacks that the mongols threw before the Great Khan's death. But the superiority of nomads/ or raiders over settlers in the battlefield is a recurrent trend in history, you have Sparta, the Early Islamic Caliphate (arabs), the Aztecs, think about how Romans in their early republic period had to endure Gaul raids using militia and then they stomped them when they had a prosfessional and organized army, if you read any battle were the Romans were caught by suprised and disadvantage and somehow won is because htey quickly adapted their formation held and didnt rout, no matter the loses. If you study Caesar conquest of Gaul, you can see the Roman complexity of supply chains, camps, chain of command while the Gauls had only levies and some smart leaders.

>>16910549

>just curious how Euros Slowly adpated and beat the mongols at their game

Nothing, really. After a while they just kinda fucked off and never came back again.

How good are legendary weapons?

>>16910801

+1 to +6 to random attributes

Step 1: start new game

2: immediately court noble

3: sell their top tier gear you don't intend to keep

4: enable companion death

5: repeat

>>16910717

>After a while they just kinda fucked off and never came back again.

The Golden Horde harassed hungarians, russians, poles and turks after the fall of the Mongol Empire, but nations like Poland and Hungary and the Russian kingdoms had experience dealing aganist horse nomads even before the mongols because they shared borders with the Tartars tribes who were also slave traders.

>>16910683

the thing that really stopped the khans was infighting. every time the big khan died they all had to run back to the homelands to decide who the next boss would be, this happened a bunch of times when the were almost rolling over another civ but they all just fucked back home. after awhile (3rd generation+) they started fighting each other, kind of like western and eastern split of rome later.

>as far as bannerlord

fuck this game until it's more balanced

>>16911864

>trump meme in this year

fuck off with your force meme

>>16911990

My image folder is disorganized and I am lazy. It was the first relevant image I scrolled across that describes my feelings playing the game.

I'm surprised, the last patch actually improved the game by a lot. You gain EXP much faster, it runs better, you can make it look less grim-dark, armor feels more useful (still does jack shit against missile damage though) and companions also seem better. Now they just need to fix Kingdom management along with a million game breaking glitches and it's about as good as Warband.

>>16911386

Is that good?

>>16910801

What, where?

>>16913372

He means when you Smelt weapons Anon

>>16912335

I once got a random companion who had

something like 10 unspent perk points left, it would be nice if all of them were like that.

>Loaded up Warband today after playing Bannnerlord on 15fps. Seems like it was really good training because I'm a fucking killer on the field now.

>>16913649

there is a mod that respect all companions you hire

they get all attributes set to zero and all focus points returned

>>16913173

I haven't seen these weapons myself, but if they give you bonuses to attributes (Vigor, Control etc) then yes, that is quite good. You will level up that attribute's linked skills much faster.

>>16914311

>not using the "S" rune for an s

>>16914386

its Yea rather than yes for ye olde feel.

>>16914633

sounds like the perfect time to do some horseback divide and conquer if you have a steed, alternatively grab your spatha and shield and go out in a blaze of glory shield to shield.

>>16914690

I was blindsided by two lances while trying to run interference for the ranged troops I was commanding unfortunately. It's actually gotten even more insane. I noticed you can actually end battles if you're unconscious in the tab screen, so I did so. Now our armies are evenly matched in numbers, but I have 1% health so I can't participate, and now I realize that joining an army makes it impossible to leave a battle once they are engaged. It takes me back to the world map screen, but the only option I have is to send my troops in – I can't leave. This took me by complete surprise because I'm pretty sure you can leave a battle any time you end one of the battle "scenes" in Warband. Now I am sadly savescumming until the battle simulator rolls a victory for us, and it is infuriatingly close. I would have been happy to just fuck off and do something else but that doesn't seem to be an option anymore. I also wouldn't mind being captured so much if I didn't just agree to be the ward of the son of the king of Sturgia. And naturally we would totally win this battle easily if I could fight it instead of auto resolving.

>>16914633

>Vlandians are the biggest vaginas known to man

Well that's disappointing. Tthey're supposed to be Normans

I am making a mod that changes how attributes and skill focuses work, they will give bonus to the skill instead of more skill gain (so you never get locked out of skills and adding attributes and focuses is always nice, and you don't have to hold yourself from trading or smithing until you get 5 focuses on them, etc)

Going nice so far, already figured out how to change the effective skill value (equip horses with base riding 20 + 40 modifier = 60 effective skill)

Now I need to change the skill gain multiplier and change the character screen display to change the green bar to show the effective skill

I assume it should be ready in two days. How much bonus should each attribute/focus give? I am thinking of 5/10 respectively, should I decrease the exp gain? (since you don't need attr/focus anymore) I plan on leaving it "exp gain as if you had 10 attr/5 focus on all skills"

>>16914732

I thought the vlandians were supposed to be visigoths.

>>16914808

Well, they're based in particular on Normans

>>16914860

Didn't they say they wanted to try ships/naval combat as an expansion? That could be bolted onto the base game, since every faction but one has access to the ocean or a sea that feeds into it except one (which only has a bit of sea). In-fact, looking at the way the map has changed over the years, adding more water has been a consistent change.

>>16914884

If that's the case, a module focused on the Dutch, British and Spanish mercantilism in the Caribbean would be fantastic. As I recall, there was a bare-bones mod for Warband already, but extremely buggy and the naval boarding mechanics were complete ass.

Never really played Warband before a few hours fucking around on the map chasing raiders I just captured my first castle and declared myself a new faction and I'm not really sure what to do next.

How do I take more land without getting crushed by all these huge factions that surround me? I have ~150 personal troops and the weakest castle around me has 300 troops in it.

>>16915150

also, some fights favor auto resolve and some don't, you always want to defend a castle manually when you got the right forces because said right forces will murder the invaders really hard. some mods like perisno, i auto resolve attacks because i lose a few troops, but trying to take the castle manually ends up being a fucking blood bath even with top tier dudes.

So are those elite batannian archers as OP as I've heard?

>>16915212

Imagine you have a laser rifle. Now imagine you have several men armed with them.

>>16914860

>hadrian hears a jew.png

I wish there was a difficulty option that only affected missile damage. I don't want to be an unkillable tank, I just don't want to get one shot by some random faggot every 2nd battle.

>>16914860

Why not early colonies to conquistador era? Alternatetly, the Hussite wars would make for something we don't get much of in games.

I'm searching for a companion that apparently doesn't actually exist and it's driving me nuts. The encyclopedia in game says "last seen in rovalt today", any time I'm not in rovalt, but he's never actually there. If I wait in the town it changes to last seen x days ago (however much time I wait), and as soon as I leave again it goes back to last seen today.

>>16915212

Battanians are unique. They can't get archers normally through progression, because only noblemen learn it. You have to go around finding Highborn Youths which are much rarer than the regular Volunteers. Volunteers can only upgrade into skirmishers, which are pretty good right now anyways because javelin damage is insane. However the Highborn Youths eventually upgrade into badass motherfuckers with splint armor, two handed swords and longbows

>>16915534

That would be interesting, now that you bring those up. The Reconquista could be quite fun to play around with. Have northern Hispania be Asturias and the rest the squabbling Islamic invaders and Catholic rebels. Maybe put "mercenary" bands of Francia reconquista forces throughout Asturias held lands for hiring.

>>16915664

damn it this makes me want to make a KANGZ flag now.

Ok so nothing makes money quicker than smithing right?

1 Wood + 1 Iron + 1 Charcoal + 60 skill in smithing = 10k per item. I just bankrupted 4 cities in a few minutes.

>>16915688

What are you making? Because when I smith shit at 60 skill it's only worth around 600

>>16915735

Actually correction, the crafted 2h sword I made is only worth 73 before penalty.

>>16915735

2 Handed Executoner Axes net me between 10-20k. I make multiples. I made over 100k in one run. Be sure to buy up a shitload of Iron Ore and Hardwood it'll take a while to grind but its worth it. I'm still yet to craft a weapon though that's better than what I can reasonably buy. I'm also on 1.1.0 btw.

>>16915741

you need to be using Tier 5 parts. If you can make a weapon that is all Tier 5s it makes a fuck load of money.

>>16915688

>>16915735

You don't even need to make weapons if you don't want to. If you have Trade skill, smelting and refining gets you a ton of cash just by selling the ingots, assuming you actually try to sell in cities that have high iron prices. I abused the fuck out of this in one of my campaigns because it was a town that had fixed iron prices thanks to the (((Merchant's Guild))). I got one of those "local resources are too expensive" quests from the smith. They seemed to realize pretty quickly that the only person this policy served was the Arab-looking trader carting tons of iron into their town that was already flush was iron supply for assloads of gold because the price went down a couple of weeks later.

>>16915578

>nerfs

It's a really old screen shot, I have been busy getting my ass handed to my by the nerfs in Perisno .99 instead.

>>16916085

Why not get your ass handed to you by the nerfs in 1.0 tho?

>>16915664

>The jizz is a fish

heh

>>16915735

Javelins, 2H axes are also good. But the Javs have really low material cost too.

>>16915905

Yeah this is the way to go if you don't want to "cheat". But if you just want to get the most out of your materials, make javelins. 1 Iron is worth 10k, but yeah that shit is clearly not intentional and they will most likely fix shit like that.

>>16916597

>1 Iron is worth 10k,

Except all the tier 5 stuff requires Fine Steel, and usually a lot of it.

>>16916673

You don't need tier 5 stuff to make money that way. It's all low level (60 smithing, tier 1 and 2 parts) and only takes 1 iron 1 wood and 1 charcoal to make.

>>16916731

tier 1-2 parts are only worth ~100 for the complete weapon. The only reason to smith tier 1 shit is to try to unlock higher tier parts, but even then the odds of unlocking increases drastically when you smith higher tier shit.

>>16916756

Nope, I'm using the beta branch. It's the damage that gives the outrageous prices. It's the same for the 2 handed axes too, close to 70k for each.

Just for anyone else that didn't know and was just randomly attacking villages to start wars like me, that console command mod lets you declare war without fucking up your influence by raiding villages like a dumbass.

>>16917102

Couldn't you just randomly attack caravans instead? Way more profitable anyways.

>>16916765

Still havent managed to unlock anything with great prices. Best I can do right now is about 3291 for a polearm with all tier-5 parts, costs 2 steel, 2 fine steel, and 1 hardwood (plus charcoal). I also just discovered that the Artisan Smith perk, which is supposed to reduce trade penalty by half, does absolutely nothing at all.

shit.

So i got this waifu lined up… we get married, she loses the leadership bonus from her clan going from 95 to 65 troops (also my pathetic level 1 clan tier).. but also, i need to pay her troops salary and something called "party help" i have no idea what is but it was another couple hundred gold. I literally can't afford to be married, as she costs me 500g a day. My two workshops just barley covered my own shit. On top of that, I can't even seem to make her join my party? How make babies? What do? I'm thinking about post phoning marriage until clan level 3 so I can least army up? I have no fucking idea.

>also

any tips for companions, it seems like most of them are not that great, and those that don't suck will freeze your skills (ie: scouting, medicine), otherwise the "warriors" always have some weird ass skill ups.

>>16917210

I am also interested in the baby making issue, just married the princess for 10 horses

>>16917210

>any tips for companions, it seems like most of them are not that great,

Not sure what you mean by this. They're just normal troops that you can give good gear and they never die, which is insanely useful. Did you set your roles correctly? I think that will alleviate your skill-freezing issue. Otherwise just make sure they're getting stuck in so they can get XP, because they can't die unless you turned on the option for it.

>>16917249

This intrigues me. If you're both on the same patch and get wildly different prices for smithing weapons, I wonder if either of you continued a save from before the last patch? Maybe it's a compatibility issue. That, or the prices are actually determined at world gen (or maybe dynamically in the world) and there is a bug related to that.

>>16917254

weapon prices certainly vary between cities, so maybe one of you got cities with very errant values for city weapon demand

>>16917254

Forgot to mention I'm on patch 1.0.11. He's on beta branch 1.1, both of which are "current". I only started playing on patch 1.0.10 and had the same "problem" then.

>>16917257

Also not true. Every city offers EXACTLY the same price for my weapons, and they aren't affected by supply/demand either. The price is always 3291 for my polearms, no matter where I go or what I do.

>>16917261

that can't be correct, I've seen scythes for 132, 110 and 66, recently even started seeing for 54 (but my game have looter groups of 300, so supply for looter weapons is pretty vast)

>>16917265

For looted weapons maybe. Crafted weapons however seem to be completely fixed price in my game.

>>16917257

The city price issue is an interesting one, because I know there are cities with fixed prices for commodities. If you find one of those "Local materials are too expensive" quests, you can also just dump all of the resource that the tradesman is looking for at the same town for the same outrageous fixed price he is talking about.

>>16917265

>>16917267

That's bizarre, considering I've seen cities that seem to mass-produce a specific piece of gear (cavalry shields for instance) and it will be slightly cheaper than the norm.

>>16917312

Bizarre in terms of world logic perhaps, but obviously gear created by smiting skill and gear generated by the game are tracked differently.

>>16917323

Yeah, but that shouldn't necessarily be the case. I could understand if you got a penalty to your weapon prices because you're not in the local guild (in real history you wouldn't even be able to do business), but it seems like they use completely different algorithms. The weapons in game seem to all have a fixed base price whereas the crafted weapons have a scaling price based directly on your weapon stats. Which is why I can make spears that sell for 6 denars even though no other weapon is that cheap.

>>16917323

>but obviously

not necessarily, they all could be tagged 'weapon' and therefore be all counting towards the 'weapon' supply demand

>>16917330

>based directly on your weapon stats

Based solely on part-tier, stats have absolutely no impact for me.

>>16917335

craft a bunch of weapons, all kinds of combinations of part tiers, then check whose stack and whose do not stack and the prices.

then we will have a clearer vision of what's happening

>>16917345

Alright, tomorrow probably. Today I'm still working on unlocking as many parts as possible anyway, so I'll have more to work with when I go to test that.

holy shit is everything expensive now, how the fuck is a nigger supposed to gear up

>>16917398

you talk like money is hard to get

>>16917398

Just raid a couple of caravans

>>16917423

>no more silly pointy helmets

I think they're supposed to be Kievan Rus, which are the result of immediate intermingling between the Norse migrants and local Slavs. I like the look, you can look like a proper boyar.

>>16917438

Legion of the Betrayed already has a Triarii

If you marry the daughter of a faction leader, will she remain loyal to you even if you start your own faction and take over the entire map?

>>16917448

Yes, she is now in your clan, he father is just a friend now

So while smithing has been a major bust for cash, all that time I've spend just camping in one city has made tons of money off of caravans and workshops. I'm earning about 6k per day on average just sitting here, and I don't have any threats or responsibilities to worry about at this stage of the game, so I can literally do this forever.

>>16917460

Do merc work, its fun, you can quit whenever you please and you can use it to raise relations with lords by let them go once you beat them

>>16917478

Yeah I tried that briefly. I really enjoyed the way "army" battles work, so I'll definitely be doing more of that. But first, I must smith a legendary weapon. 250 skill now, hopefully I don't hit a hard cap before 275.

I've made the mod I've been crying about since the game launched about

Skill focus and attributes are now bonuses to skills rather than unfun experience multipliers

If anyone is interested. Now I will see if I can have so that holding ctrl held when pressing Smelt can repeat the action until it fails

www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/541/?

>>16917533

>Now I will see if I can have so that holding ctrl held when pressing Smelt can repeat the action until it fails

Just bind left click to scroll wheel

>>16917540

then you can't change weapons

>>16917171

>>16917249

I don't know what to tell you, there's a bunch of other people that are making the same Javs and getting the same prices as me. This is a new save for me on the Beta branch. Did you start a new game when you moved patches? Or is it an old save?

Only thing I can think of is that it's related to prices on an older patch.

>>16917257

Same price for my weapons in every city.

>>16917583

I started playing the game for the first time on patch 1.0.10. I dont have access to beta because there's no crack for beta shit afaik

>>16917550

>>16917533

Was actually super easy

www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/580

>>16917585

Well shit, I have no idea.

So are you playing 1.0.11 or 1.1 now?

>>16917620

1.0.11.

>>16917550

>>16917587

I hope you did it for refining too, that's what I needed the scroll wheel bind for. I just turn the bind off when I'm done smithing though

>>16917643

yep, and just finished ironing out some bugs too

So I just had a glitch happen when I opened my Inventory on the world map where it placed 10 of every item in the game on the discard side of the loot screen. Should I take some shit or discard it all?

>>16917981

Use the cheat console, pick crossbow skill during character creation, or level up in tourny's:^)

>>16917701

>>16917697

It's because cheat mode is enabled.