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0348ae  No.16891140[Last 50 Posts]

2020 seems to be a big year for JRPGs so lets have a thread on them. The obvious big names coming up are:

>FF7 Remake

>Trials of Mana

Then you have the games that SUPPOSEDLY have a release window for 2020, but we've had very little information on them

>Genshin Impact

>Tales of Arise

>Granblue Fantasy Re:Link

Don't forget you're stuck playing JRPGs forever.

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932072  No.16891158

looking for the mega pack with all translated jrpgs on snes

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07bc7f  No.16891161

File: 666bfac74b2cbc9⋯.png (293.23 KB, 1170x1080, 13:12, 1150871_PedoBear_meme_spur….png)

How can i get into FF? Every time i try to play one i get bored. Same with Persona, Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana.

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0348ae  No.16891184

>>16891161

Which ones have you tried? Personally for me everything under FF9 is dated, and everything above FF12 sucks.

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b36a7b  No.16891187

>>16891161

maybe jrpgs are not for you anon, dont push yourself

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0348ae  No.16891210

>>16891197

Is it not? Last year wasn't, and the year before that wasn't. I also could've counted Persona 5 Royal but honestly that's just P5 with a few extra shit.

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07bc7f  No.16891222

>>16891184

FF10 is shit.

>>16891187

Does Dragon's Crown and Demon's Souls count? I just don't like turn-based combat excluding some exceptions.

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37131d  No.16891224

File: 320eb33a16fe8e6⋯.jpg (935.36 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, Switch_BravelyDefault2_120….jpg)

Bravely default 2 has a demo that is out for the switch along with the game's release date being set for this year.

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3aacca  No.16891226

>>16891161

depends; every FF is different in tone, content, and quality

4 and 6 are solid entry points (4 for the closest to traditional fantasy, 6 for steampunk and magitech), 7 is babby's first, 9 is either the best or terrible depending on taste but either way it's one of the longest, 10 is also a good entry point but comes off as weird compared to the rest of the series

>same with…Chrono Trigger

JRPGs probably just aren't your bag if you found yourself bored with the best-paced of them all

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3aacca  No.16891231

>>16891222

Dragon's Crown is a belt-scrolling brawler with level ups. It's basically the modern successor to Golden Axe and the Capcom D&D Mystara games

Demon's Souls is more of a WRPG in presentation and tone, and a successor to classic dungeon hack series King's Field

both have RPG elements (DS moreso), neither are properly JRPGs

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07bc7f  No.16891243

>>16891231

I like Hylics, i know that's not Japanese but it's turn-based. Any JRPG similar to that?

Don't you say Earthbound you motherfucker.

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c8ba3a  No.16891311

>>16891161

Unironically, you might be the target demographic for the FFVII remake.

Combat is completely redesigned, being closer to an action RPG then old FF.

Problem is, without getting into a debate about story or characters compared to other entries, SE are being absolutely ridiculous, where only a fraction of a fraction of the game is being released.

>>16891222

Souls titles are japanese action RPGs, but not JRPG in a heavily regimented genre sense.

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311135  No.16891346

File: 16597c86ccb50a8⋯.gif (498.39 KB, 300x222, 50:37, 165.gif)

>>16891140

>FF7 Remake

>RPG

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3aacca  No.16891356

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>>16891243

>Hylics

well shit I have a new game to play

Citizens of Earth

as the newly elected Vice President of Earth, stave off your overthrown political rival's tantrum protest and save the world from aliens

I know what you're thinking, but the game predates Trump deciding to run for election

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70ffd6  No.16891366

>>16891311

They outright stated recently that nuFFVII absolutely had to be episodic to meet current visual parameters if they didn't want to cut shit while adding content. Which I assume means they're wanting to avoid any sort of reasonable asset compression and optimization (hell, I kind of wonder if there will even be a scaled overworld in the parts past midgar, or if those are apt to be 1:1 size as well between the screen character and environment, and the lack of freedom that comes with that) to squeeze as much money from prospective new fans and absolute drones as they can.

As if needing two blu-rays worth of space, plus what I assume to be required install to HDD, just isn't satisfactory on it's own. Still think if they were going to remake the game, it should have been for the PS2.

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94259d  No.16891371

>>16891184

>FF 7 & 8 feel dated

<9 doesn't

Nigger 9 has got to be the most forgettable, with the most unoriginal combat system of practically the entire series. 7 and 8 still feel fresh in comparison since their settings and battle systems were original and ambitious, 9 was just a stale throwback. And don't give me that muh grafix are what feel dated, 8's realistic style is easily prettier and anything on the ps1 looks dated by modern standards anyway. Honestly, XIII >> 9, the setting was interesting and combat very satisfying at times

>>16891224

Thanks buddy very much looking forward to this, hadn't heard about it.

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3aacca  No.16891372

>>16891366

>Still think if they were going to remake the game, it should have been for the PS2.

it was in consideration and a battle stage tech demo was made

they also could have remade it for PS3; you know, like that real time tech demo of the opening sequence they made

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70ffd6  No.16891377

>>16891372

And yet they didn't, because they weren't financially desperate enough yet. And now they're even claiming the game should be remade yet again in another ten or twenty year, because nuFFVII will be "outdated" the way they've been saying the fifth gen original is now.

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07bc7f  No.16891384

>>16891356

I like Hylics because it Inseticide aesthetics, weird but chill music and weird dialogues and story overall (Can't wait for Hylics 2). Citizens of Earth looks more like Earthbound. I'll give it a try on my vita though.

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0348ae  No.16891387

>>16891371

The only thing I could stomach from the XIII series was the music. I would rather play FF10-2 than those games.

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ed430c  No.16891515

Ys 9 PC when?

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98f5d8  No.16891532

>>16891224

Didn't Bravely Default have a sequel named Bravely Second? Why is the third game named "Bravely Default II"? This is retarded

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ca9b61  No.16891538

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>>16891140

>Tales of Arise

I misread that as "Tales of Arse". For a brief moment there, I had false hope for the series.

>>16891161

>How can i get into FF? Every time i try to play one i get bored.

This is perfectly normal, don't worry. You're better off not playing them.

>Same with Persona

Persona is the best Persona. Start with that one, then move to P2.

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06306f  No.16891541

>>16891371

you're a nigger for your spoiler, but I will agree that FFIX does not feel as good as seven nowadays.

>>16891532

They wanted to signify the jump from the 3DS to the Switch I guess.

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500176  No.16891542

>>16891532

Bravely Second is the name of the series' gimmick special attack that is more powerful than Bravely Default, so maybe there's a chance of one day seeing a Bravely Second II lol.

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98f5d8  No.16891556

>>16891542

I see. That's convoluted

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3aacca  No.16891611

>>16891538

>Start with that one, then move to P2.

you need to refine that to specify that Innocent Sin comes first, followed by Eternal Punishment

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056fbd  No.16891641

Anyone know if the SMT DDS games emulate well? I know its considered "playable" by the emulation communities standards, but I also know it has a shadow glitch, and that the emulation communities definition of "playable" is often what I would call "passable".

>tfw never beaten a main series FF game.

The farthest I have gotten was the disc 3 of FF9 as an adult, and I stopped playing because I screwed up a sidequest.

I gave up on 7 as a kid when Aerith died which made me really depressed.

I gave up on 8 multiple as a kid because I didn't understand the difficulty scaling and would end up in situations where I just couldn't progress.

I gave up on 10 as a teenager because Tidus was annoying as fuck.

I returned 12 as a teenager because I didn't like the combat at all.

>>16891184

What aspect of 9 did you find dated?

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298ae9  No.16892086

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>>16891538

It's worth noting that Persona 1 has two versions: the original and the psp remake. The remake adds QoL changes and gives a much better translation than the PS1 western release got (which also changed a lot of the cast to make the more "american", such as making Mark a nig nog.) It also adds in the snow queen route which was absent in that version. However, it replaces the original soundtrack with a newer one that's more similar to Persona 3 and 4, which completely kills the atmosphere. It also has about half as many tracks as the original, with many of them repeating in areas that used to have different songs playing. Pick your poison, I guess.

Luckly, Atlus learned their mistake when they made the Persona 2 remake, giving a more faithful remake of the soundtrack and adding the option to switch between the two.

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be68d3  No.16892192

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>>16891161

The main thing with Jrpgs is that you have to follow a story/plot that you tolerate and a specific game mechanic that you enjoy (Collecting Pokemon is one for example). If you do not have these two things, or atleast one, it's not worth your time, because in all, JRPGs play very similarily. For example, while Persona, Mario TTYD, and The Stick of Truth are all JRPGs, you may only find one of these games interesting or enjoyable.

>>16891538

How is SMT different from Persona by the way? I know Persona is an offshoot of SMT, but what are the differences in the gameplay?

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680b8d  No.16892217

>>16891653

i'm glad someone is able to get enjoyment out of this shit

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3cd350  No.16892219

>>16891184

>Personally for me everything under FF9 is dated, and everything above FF12 sucks.

You'd have to be a supreme idiot to not appreciate FF6. New JRPGs aren't half as good as SNES era stuff.

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056fbd  No.16892365

>>16892192

>but what are the differences in the gameplay

That's a complex question.

In terms of battle systems alone SMT 1 and 2 combat differed from Persona 1 and 2 in that SMT had a front row and back row system, whereas Persona 1 and 2 had grid systems. A more important difference however, was that in SMT you play as a squishy human who has to essentially be guarded by demons, in Persona you are typically no less squishy then your party members.

Both series however, have merged to a certain extent with a homogenized single line combat system. They tried to keep things separate during the early PS2 era with Persona 3 having AI allies and SMT3 not, however, the AI allies were fucking retarded and they have since removed it in later releases.

What currently keeps the combat different is the fact that in SMT you can make your part out of yourself and 3 of any demon in the game, but in Persona the player has to choose 3 of a limited pool of allies that have a set number of skills while the MC alone can choose from any demon persona to use in battle.

That said the real difference is

>The Stick of Truth are all JRPGs

ur a faggot

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f895f1  No.16892374

>>16891224

I really didn't like the first Bravely Default. Aside from the titular battle mechanic, which isn't even all that big of a deal, it's a poor man's FF5 that turns into Groundhog's Day in the second half because the developers needed to pad out the game's length. Are Bravely Second and Bravely Default II any better? What about Octopath Travelers? From what I understand that's made by the same people.

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cd503f  No.16892388

>>16892192

I've never played later SMTs so they probably fucked it up but in SMT you don't have to go to high school or talk to irritating retards to level up your skills and there's no ingame time limit.

>>16892374

Don't even waste your time with Bravely Second. Square censored tons of WRPG like chocies so nothing bad can happen. (But for some reasone (((Game Journalists))) never mentioned this and portrayed all criticism of this as the big bad gamers being perverts)

Don't know much about octopath traveler, all I know is that it's pixel art is ruined with shitloads of bloom and camera filters and one of the main battle mechanics is ripped from Bravely Default.

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a1147d  No.16892417

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>>16891346

Fuck, I just downloaded this; been minding my own business and only just now bothered to get the demo. Fucking classic mode is journalism/auto-fight mode? I at least hoped it would be nearer to Parasite Eve (dodging/avoidance until gauge built up) but Cloud is just doing whatever the fuck he wants and now this piece of shit is telling me Cloud auto-mantles too. This shit's a walking simulator for LGBTQ modern anime fags or will it have some strategic depth? Oh I fucking can't

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0348ae  No.16892492

Not sure about anyone else but I'm honestly looking forward to playing Trials of Mana more than FF7 Remake.

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500176  No.16892520

>>16892492

Trials of Mana looks like it's doing what FF7 would do if FF7 didn't have Nomura as the director. Though I do have to knock on Trials of Mana for, so far according to the demo, being a lot easier than the SNES version. And the SNES version is sort-of easy to begin with. Though none of this stops my excitement for release day.

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d274a9  No.16892533

>>16892520

Trials of Mana's being done by the same team that the the Secret of Mana remake, right? So it ought to look, act, and feel pretty similar to how that one did or didn't work, if that's so. And that remake isn't changing the genre the original game's in. The FF7 remake is basically making a game with FF7's story and characters but which plays completely differently from the original.

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98f5d8  No.16892536

>>16892533

Trials of mana is a real remake,it's very different from the Secret of mana remake (which was actually just a graphical update with minor stuff). The game is actually pretty different from the original too, all things considered

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0348ae  No.16892564

Any JRPGs you guys currently playing while waiting for the new releases? I might torture myself and give Tales of Zestiria a try and see if it's as bad as people make it out to be.

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c1931a  No.16892610

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>>16892564

>I might torture myself and give Tales of Zestiria a try and see if it's as bad as people make it out to be.

Do NOT! I knowy ou're better than that and there are millions of games out there far more deserving of attention that aren't actually so bad like whoa just waiting for you to play them

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62112b  No.16892676

>>16891184

I've been playing FF6 and it doesn't feel dated to me at least.

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7b77ce  No.16892680

atlus nigger where is smt 5

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a11c90  No.16892775

>Granblue Fantasy Re:Link

I hope they get it done right.

>>16892492

The Mana remake is looking great, FF7 not so much.

>>16892495

I'll have you know Valkyrie Profile 2 is both of those and a masterpiece.

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cac230  No.16892780

>>16891538

persona 1 is in fact the best persona

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012c82  No.16892787

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>>16892760

>Every one of these gay weebshit japrigs released after 2004 are godawful dogshit

>implying Steambot Chronicles isn't the best RPG on the PS2

>implying that Steambot Chronicles isn't, with the exceptions of Ace Combat 4, 5, and 0, the best game on the PS2 period

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1d32e5  No.16892844

Don't you fags ever get bored of playing watered down Wizardry clones?

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5fdca9  No.16892925

File: 1c224507c253b56⋯.png (275.87 KB, 609x593, 609:593, Leaning_Faggot_Loli.png)

>>16892904 (you)

Here's your (you).

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fd4319  No.16892938

>>16892787

>play game

>Kinda interesting rpg

>can bully the shit out of main squeeze and she will still want that cock

>terrorism

I still need to beat it.

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15736f  No.16892956

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

The trails of Zero fan-translation is finally finished for almost 2 weeks now.

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e372f1  No.16892981

Mark purge the fucking thread from cuckchaners wtf are you doing,i know you got blessed but send someone else.

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bd043e  No.16892996

>>16892919

it's mostly niggerpill, taking care of it now

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40d29e  No.16893015

>>16892365

Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. Stick of Truth has jrpg elements so even though it wasn't made in nipnong land it can still be considered a jrpg. I think even Trey and Matt said the game was influenced by Paper Mario and Mother.

>>16892388

That's great. What really irked me about Persona is the boring highschool/interaction part of the gameplay. I don't know why nips obsess over highschool so much. Maybe it's because they love to remember the days before they worked suicidal hours wageslaving.

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0348ae  No.16893058

So the thing about Genshin Impact which I just found out about after looking up more stuff about it is it's an always online basically gachashit, but not an MMO. That kinda sucks. It actually looks like a decent game looking at the gameplay and I didn't even care that the world palette looked like it copied Zelda BOTW. It'll be free so I guess I'll check it out but I wish gachashit games would hurry up and die down, but that will most likely never happen.

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ef5c5c  No.16893249

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>>16892947

What JRPGs have you even played? Some of the things you said don't make sense. For one, JRPG is just Japanese RPG. More like a combination of all types of RPGs but made under Japan or at least with some sort of JP style/twist to it. This includes things like Action RPGs (Star Ocean/Tales series, Seiken Densetsu series, Dragon's Dogma), Dungeon RPGs/Dungeon Crawlers (Etrian Odyssey, modern Wizardry, Demon Gaze, some MT/SMT games), and your average RPG like Dragon Quest. This is why barely any games in this thread have the same type of gameplay. Even Final Fantasy, which is one of the most iconic JRPG IPs, doesn't have the same type of gameplay. It's why FF fans can never agree on what's the best game since FF barely even has a consistent identity besides a few things like Chocobos, summons, and giant crystals.

>The leveling system is always extremely basic.

Heavily depends on the game. Some games have it to where the leveling system is just a way to make yourself slightly stronger while there are many more mechanics that flesh out how you actually progress your character. A great example is Tales of Graces F. Maxing out gear you makes gives you stat buffs from them and "Titles" determine what skills you get. You can make a tank, DPS, or glass cannon with these. Meanwhile Titles give you certain passives, abilities, and different ways to chain attacks. In NG+ you won't care about levels and only about what Titles and gear you equip.

>You have no freedom to be good, evil, or somewhere in the middle. No choices that change the story.

There's a whole series dedicated to this called Shin Megami Tensai, though Law/Chaos doesn't mean good/evil. I agree more JRPGs in general could use more choices. Meaningless choices are something that should be purged though.

>It's always the same good vs evil story with religious imagery shoved in so writers and players feel intellectually intellectual.

That's so broad that applies to most vidya that revolves around constant action. Anything that wants to stroke off people's intellectual ego will reference religion, politics, morality or philosophy.

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ef5c5c  No.16893256

>>16893058

>it is it's an always online basically gachashit

Where did you find that out? Any source?

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0348ae  No.16893296

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056fbd  No.16893354

>>16893015

>I don't know why nips obsess over highschool so much

High-school settings sell well and Japanese businesses are so risk adverse that they will not invest in anything unless they know it will sell well.

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056fbd  No.16893405

>>16893249

>Meaningless choices are something that should be purged though

Meaningless choices are fine so long as the choices don't appear to be important. There is no reason to not give the player a chance to roleplay while still not having a large impact on the story.

What does need to be purged are choices that seem like they should be meaningful but don't mean anything.

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742753  No.16893422

File: 8de38b8e46c5a60⋯.png (1.37 MB, 640x918, 320:459, ClipboardImage.png)

This game is really fun and has some good ideas, but it's the little things that ruin it.

>the idea of choosing which MS to build disappears by mid-game because the game showers you with so many free suits that out-do anything you can build (for example, a couple cut scenes after you can build Hizack and GM II you're given a Gundam II)

>world map is huge, but empty of anything but random encounters

>you need large energy cores to build an MS, but there's a limited number in the game and not enough to build everything unless you know exactly which suits to build and which you'll get for free, which ruins the ability to mix and match parts

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ef5c5c  No.16893467

>>16893296

Thanks for the source. That's disappointing to hear but not terrible. I was hoping more for a full product and not a F2P game.

>>16893405

You said it better than I did. That's more of what I meant. Seeing what people say to certain choices may not matter in the grand scheme but it can be pretty interesting.

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f72413  No.16893498

>>16893015

> I don't know why nips obsess over highschool so much. Maybe it's because they love to remember the days before they worked suicidal hours wageslaving.

That's a big part of it. High school is culturally ubiquitous in part because it's something everyone goes through, so it doesn't call to more specific experiences like setting something in college or working in an industry. For the target demographic of shonen manga/anime, it's something to look forward to (or so they're sold) and a setting that allows things to be "grown up" but without dealing with mundane adult concerns like toiling away for their employers or trying to pay bills. For older audiences, it is probably genuinely nostalgic because life does nothing but get worse from there. For girls, it's a setting that facilitates youthful (cute), exciting, and relatable romance and human drama. It's an easy setting because a lot doesn't need to be communicated to the audience, it's got a little something for almost any specific audience, and like >>16893354

said, it's marketable.

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0348ae  No.16893590

File: 96c2140d6df5485⋯.jpg (1.1 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Project_Sakura_Wars_201908….jpg)

Oh and Sakura Wars. I think it's been out in Japan and comes out next month for the west.

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346efb  No.16893601

How come we've never or at least rarely gotten a crpg or elderscrolls inspired jrpg out of Japan? I would love to see an anime take on Baldur's gate or morrowind scrolls that maintain the same quality in terms of lore, characters and story as these games.

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ef5c5c  No.16893623

File: c0a587a9e0f8f39⋯.png (283.54 KB, 756x634, 378:317, c0a587a9e0f8f3915533860e3e….png)

>>16893590

Thank goodness NISA isn't doing the localization.

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0348ae  No.16893656

>>16893623

That's good to hear. I'm curious to see how it'd compete against FF7 Remake and Trials of Mana seeing as how they all release the same month.

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81e6c8  No.16893914

>>16891532

It’s because Bravely Second took place in the same world and was just a continuation of Bravely Default 1. Bravely Default 2 is going to be in a brand new world with new characters and story, hence calling in Bravely Default 2 instead of something like Bravely Third. It is indeed convoluted at first but makes sense when you understand the reasoning. Also, if anyone has any interest in the series, make sure to play the demo and do the poll their going to release a bit later to tell them how good/bad the game is. I wish more games did this and I think it worked wonderfully for Nioh 2.

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ecb134  No.16893918

>>16892192

>How is SMT different from Persona by the way? I know Persona is an offshoot of SMT, but what are the differences in the gameplay?

SMT is a streamlined post-apoc Wizardry 4 clone based around 80s Japan doomsday cult bullshit with a monster fusing system instead of tarot card bullshit.

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f83d5c  No.16894218

File: a8298dde7505ef3⋯.png (318.09 KB, 181x752, 181:752, Persona_original_trilogy_I….png)

File: 8cc319c5a18b3a5⋯.png (215.38 KB, 191x493, 191:493, Persona_Evil_Phone.png)

File: f3d0225ce8013f3⋯.jpg (2.58 MB, 4819x2811, 4819:2811, Persona_Velvet_Room.jpg)

>>16892192

>How is SMT different from Persona by the way? I know Persona is an offshoot of SMT, but what are the differences in the gameplay?

When it comes to old-school Persona, the main gameplay difference from SMT is the party design.

Summoners and demons have separate party roles in mainline SMT, whereas in Persona the summoner directly evokes the summon from their own body, so each party member has the combined utility of both.

Persona started as a spinoff of SMT mostly in terms of theme, story and tone. There wasn't a huge amount of gameplay distinction until Hashino took over.

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cb677d  No.16894348

>>16891140

>>Genshin Impact

>JRPG

anon…

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0348ae  No.16894379

>>16894348

Now I know >>16893058

It looked like a JRPG when it was first presented though

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459d50  No.16894406

>>16894379

The real issue is that its chinese shit

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f62989  No.16896287

>>16892680

Hell if I know. Atlus has probably canceled it behind the scenes in favour of more Persona 5 milking as far as anyone knows.

>>16892610

Why do you post like this?

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1594fa  No.16896289

should i play final fantasy 10 for the voice acting and story alone?

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49d0bc  No.16899504

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I wonder if square'll have the guts to show this in the remake. It's funny that people focused so much on some rather insignificant details of the game, like tifa's breasts and whether or not cloud would crossdress, when honestly there are more graphic genuine depictions of violence in the game, which are key to the story.

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500176  No.16899521

>>16899504

>which are key to the story.

They're already rewriting the story to accommodate the spin offs. Changing everything else to suit modern tastes is a definite likely.

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500176  No.16899530

>>16899521

>It's funny that people focused so much on some rather insignificant details of the game

Forgot to add that's because FF7 is among the top normalfag games, meaning most "fans" have either never played it, or never played far into the game.

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98f5d8  No.16899610

>>16899504

It's been so long since I last played, I don't remember this scene at all. When does it happen? Is it optional?

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49d0bc  No.16899629

>>16899610

It happens at the end of the forested temple. After cloud gives the black materia to sephiroth.

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98f5d8  No.16899640

>>16899629

Thanks. I really don't remember it so I'll keep an eye out for it since I'll replay the original soon. And yeah they will probably not include that scene or at least heavily alter it in the remake, doing otherwise would probably be corporate suicide nowadays

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0348ae  No.16899701

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98f5d8  No.16899711

>>16899701

So the first part really is just Midgar. I really doubt they can cram in so much content into it to make it worth a full price release

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0348ae  No.16899717

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e9d30d  No.16899733

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16896289

Yes, but only if you play with this mod installed.

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500176  No.16899801

>>16899711

Check out the rest of the videos. They're getting around the whole game being only Midgar by cramming in a lot of the late-game plot in FF7 into Midgar. This isn't a remake. It's a completely different game wearing an FF7 skin.

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a1bdeb  No.16899857

File: 32d6051a0f403a7⋯.jpg (61.67 KB, 405x700, 81:140, what_sorey_should_ve_been.jpg)

>>16892564

Zestiria is a shitshow in both game design AND development. IIRC, Rose replaced Alisha as the heroine because the director wanted to fuck Rose's seiyuu. Even with Alisha, though, the game wouldn't be any better.

As for the game itself, it tries to be more Graces-esque than Xillia while still using the TP system instead of CC, and feels worse than both. It would've been mediocre if it weren't for

FUCKING ARMATIZATION

As much as armatization is cool on paper, it's awful if you have three friends who play with you, because the game is designed around basically having two people play most of the time. Or maybe I'm just a shitter who relies on it, who knows. Point is, you're getting crippled HARD from a party of four merging into a party of two. It would be sick to see the concept worked into a better game, though. Tales of Xillia 2 had armatization be better and worse, where it's much less of a constant core mechanic and more of a "fuck shit up" button, but only Ludger is usable when it's activated. Even if it would make game balance a nightmare, I'd love to see it return regardless, but as something everyone in the party can do without restricting the party. Make it more Kamen Rider and less Dragon Ball Z, if that makes sense.

I will say, however, that despite all the fujos literally fagging up Mikleo and Sorey's bond, Mikleo is the best right-hand man in the franchise. Yes, more than Guy in Abyss, though I'll admit I'm biased to the fact that Water is the best element. Also, Edna is pretty nice aside from being voiced by Runkachunk, and Laliah has bigger jugs than you'd think. Dezel and Zaveid didn't grow on me, no, Zaveid's role being expanded in Berseria doesn't affect Zestiria in a vacuum, i.e. the first time you play, though I do admit it made me like him more, Alisha deserved better, Rose is lame, and Sorey is shitty Lloyd with Raine's fetish for ruins.

On an aside; if they wanted to make Sorey be somewhat less idiotic Lloyd, they should've went all in with at least three swords for 300% power, something among the lines of Date Masamune in Sengoku Basara, which actually got crossover costume DLC in 4 Sumeragi, and I only am going on this final tirade to post it.

Zestiria 2 never ever, Velvet is never getting out.

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98f5d8  No.16900161

>>16899801

Yeah, I checked, it's a clusterfuck. I can already see the shitstorm, they even shoehorned in the Cloud vs Sephiroth fight/setpiece from the very end of the game

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500176  No.16900192

>>16900161

Seeing the cast already fighting Sephiroth and flying around like endgame demi-gods makes me think there will not be a full sequel. My guess is the sequels will be DLC and truncate a ton of the content between Midgar and the final Sephiroth fight. That, and/or a theatrical movie, because that idea is stupid enough to have a chance of happening.

Either way, I do not think the sequels will be full 40+ hour games, because of how early Square is blowing the plot load. Though I suppose it could be done if Square would rewrite basically everything to merge the side games and main game into one canon.

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0f71d8  No.16900195

>the villains of the game are the mystery niggas

>except they actually did nothing wrong just want the game to be an updated remaster of the first

>they go out of their way to help the party and even prevent the party from getting killed at multiple points

>everyone hates them and wants them to die, with Cloud even calling one a bitch

They literally did nothing wrong.

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a6f9ad  No.16900200

File: fc2eae6b0c385d5⋯.webm (1.43 MB, 676x928, 169:232, rean_coldsteel.webm)

Trales of Coldsteel 4 to NA when?

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0348ae  No.16900326

File: 9cfd85021124c9d⋯.webm (2.66 MB, 1086x610, 543:305, nomura_is_a_faggot.webm)

????

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500176  No.16900357

>>16900326

>That visible disinterest.

Heh.

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49d0bc  No.16900722

File: 7ea02387547ba24⋯.jpg (794.98 KB, 3000x2176, 375:272, Amano_Cloud_Aerith_Edit_30….jpg)

>>16900326

That looks so awkward. I don't know if it's the weirdness of japanese body language, shitty animation or shitty scene direction, but this cutscene just looks silly. Is sephiroth meant to seem menacing in this? He looks like he's trying to play-wrestle with cloud, or molest him. Fucking body language is straight out of a shitty jav porno.

pic unrelated but kinda related

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0348ae  No.16900908

>>16900722

Nomura wants the fujo audience.

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500176  No.16901053

>>16900326

According to YouTube comments, Twitch is now banning accounts streaming early release copies of FF7R because they contain, get this, spoilers. Spoilers! For a game over two decades old! And spoilers for a 20+ year old game every "gamer" allegedly knows about, but don't, because they're whining about spoilers for a 20+ year old game every gamer supposedly knows about.

The FF7R release generates salt without being publicly available. I hope this means the release will be a bigger mess.

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144edc  No.16901819

>>16901053

It's publicly available in Ozland. Twitch was banning them probably from DMCA related stuff by Square, based on the ban SE put on until April the 10th, which was temporarily removed then reinstated.

From what I've heard and seen, there's a lot more expansion on the story, for better or worse. Sephiroth shows up incredibly fucking early and I think the game ends with a battle against him, because of course.

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d274a9  No.16901996

>>16901053

>>16901819

Didn't Nomura or one of them come out and say that some plot or other things would be different in the Remake? That gives them carte blanche to claim that the Remake isn't the original game and therefore it's not a 20 year old game that's being spoiled. Of course Twitch is subservient to the wishes of a huge publisher like Square. They're probably not even waiting for DMCA requests.

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49d0bc  No.16902001

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

The last trailer for this garbage is out. I've acquired a new pet peeve about it. I think the voice acting is cringe and just generally bad, but I guess that's subjective, but it's also horribly mixed.

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49d0bc  No.16902008

>>16902001

Also, there's dementors in the game now.

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d274a9  No.16902042

>>16902001

They've got a generation of how-characters-sounded-in-my-head-ism to combat. Actually, there were the voices in the other parts of the FF7 collection to get people ready for this, come to think of it, but I'm not autistic enough to go comparing voice actors between this and Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core or whatever.

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62112b  No.16902046

>>16902042

They're actually different VAs so that's thrown out the window.

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d274a9  No.16902052

>>16902046

It's not really a surprise. I guess none of the spinoffs were really big and successful enough to associate a particular actor with a particular character.

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2e848b  No.16902075

>>16892192

>How is SMT different from Persona by the way?

The main SMT games are good, but not great, dungeon crawlers with a gimmick where you can recruit certain enemies and fuse them together to make other monsters. The first one is the best one. The first two Persona games are fairly standard JRPGs while Persona 3, 4 and 5 incorporate dating sim elements into the mix, a little bit like Thousand Arms. Both series' main draw is that they have darker and edgier(I don't necessarily mean that in a derogatory way) themes than other JRPGs. The combat in all of them is more complex than most JRPGs to varying degrees but they all basically become games of pattern memorization once you figure out what you're doing.

Most of /v/ will tell you that Persona is shit but that's just because it became more popular than the mainline SMT games, to the point of becoming popular with normalfags. If that had never happened the /v/ hive mind would regard them as 6 or 7/10 niche games that are fun for what they are, the same way they view most RPGs made by Gust.

Also Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar is unironically a better dungeon caller than any of them. Don't let the sapes and melonheads tell you otherwise.

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62112b  No.16902103

>>16902052

They did a fine job at least imo. Kinda annoyed tbh.

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06306f  No.16902108

File: 428e1ae115ad5f6⋯.jpg (31.17 KB, 474x790, 3:5, aii.jpg)

>>16902075

I can't for the life of me get into fp dungeon crawlers. Aside from strange journey, ever other one of them I dropped, I got turned off. This is all despite the only difference being the camera angle in how the games present themselves. That said, while Nocturne holds a special place in my heart, my experience with the rest of mainline has not been too good, like the SMT4 duology was mediocre. DDS, Raidou and Devil Survivor are all really good games however.

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c8ba3a  No.16902314

File: e163bfca8df98bb⋯.jpg (445.26 KB, 1200x1705, 240:341, fec20fd7006bed0650bc0977b7….jpg)

>>16901053

>>16901819

>>16901996

Rebuild of FF7 is such a shitshow, that it can't even be close to be called a remake, has its own thread now. >>16901712

There are spoilers, because it wildly deviates from the original game, apparently to the point it is written into the actual plot.

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5d873f  No.16903157

>>16902314

The FF7 remake outdoes what Atlus has been shitting out of their remakes, it's honestly impressive.

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81e6c8  No.16916837

So I played the new Bravely Default II demo, had some things I liked and some things I hope they changed, but what really stuck out to me the most was that the characters seemed to be much more uncanny valley-like in their designs. I wouldn’t say it got to the point it unnerved me, but I would keep noticing how off-putting they looked, especially around the mouth when they talked, almost like I was looking at wax puppets or something. Did anyone else notice this or is it just me? I didn’t have this problem with the previous two games at all, but maybe it’s because they were on a much lower resolution DS while I’m playing the demo on my much bigger tv, so I can see the characters much more clearly.

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