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717849  No.16888136[Last 50 Posts]

What's your general opinion on anime games? All shit or are there some good ones out there? As shit as the anime is these Sword Art Online games have been pretty consistent in being decent. The only one's I've played were Hallow Fragment and Sword Art Online vs Accel World, both not bad but not great. Skipped Hallow Realization, Lost Song, and Fatal Bullet. Based on the trailers and gameplay Alicization Lycoris looks like it'll be better than the other games, but I can't say for sure since I didn't play some of them.

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e9863a  No.16888141

File: f5fde467169bdda⋯.gif (2.06 MB, 720x405, 16:9, wowowowowow.gif)

They're can be as KINO as any other game! Just because it's based on an existing franchise doesn't mean it has to be bad!

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c3d5fc  No.16888160

>>16888136

Wow, is SAO really ripping off Fate now?

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b7c5df  No.16888162

Do you mean games with an anime aesthetic or games based on an anime?

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717849  No.16888164

>>16888162

You can count the former if you want.

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6bbb62  No.16888169

>>16888136

SAO vs Accel World just made me sad Sunrise has been dragging their feet with AW season 2. Fucking Love Live idolshitter bux.

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f29fa1  No.16888300

>What's your general opinion on anime games?

They are shit just like anime.

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7ee867  No.16888301

File: 8f636d58334765b⋯.png (121.16 KB, 797x528, 797:528, shrug2.png)

They usually suck ass from what I've seen.

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290f5f  No.16888322

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Depends on the game

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ce7df1  No.16888451

>The only one's I've played were Hallow Fragment and Sword Art Online vs Accel World

I actually thought both of those were dumpster fires. Clumsy, slow combat, a clusterfuck of a menu system, difficulty was based entirely on how badly you were or weren't outleveled… The list goes on. Hollow Realization could have been a legit good game with a little more polish in its collision detection and if it weren't for the "minor" issue of a bug that readily and frequently corrupts your save file if you have the DLC (the DLC accounts for about 65% of the game's content, so the vast majority of people have it). This bug corrupts the backup save in the cross platform save feature, too, and is also present in the Steam version of the game, so if you haven't backed up your data on an external hard drive, kiss your save good bye.

Fatal Bullet managed to be much more competent in both its gameplay and technical issues, but the difficulty spike between the main game and last two DLC packs is pants on head retarded. Also, Sony seems to have pushed the devs to try to twist players' arms into buying PS Live by locking all the best weapons in this SINGLE PLAYER game behind its shitty, tacked on, multiplayer modes. Bonus rage points: you can fill your multiplayer party with NPCs to run it single player, but the menu to do this is locked behind a PS Live subscription. I suppose in current year I should just be glad the single player wasn't the tacked on afterthought, but I'll be damned if I support such shitty business practices.

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58d8a8  No.16888564

File: 3033181bbf52343⋯.jpg (146.47 KB, 800x1144, 100:143, operation_darkness_2016109….jpg)

>>16888136

>WWII with cute anime girls? looks ok

>Download demo and start it up

>Start marching my dudes up the street, take out a couple enemies

>Enemy's turn, dude runs up with panzerfaust and rapes my main character

>game over

I never did play the full game, was it any good? Seemed interesting by throwing together anime WWII with undead monsters and turn-based combat. Now and again I'll think about getting a copy and trying it.

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903dce  No.16888569

I seriously doubt that this is the kind of thing you can generalize to "anime games" in general. However, I don't play them. The modern anime aesthetic is basically always turns me off of a game. In fairness, I usually assume a game in this style is a VN and don't look into it.

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b7193b  No.16888636

>>16888569

Nigger what

since when does anyone assume 3D anime models = VN

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311568  No.16888655

It depends. There are many great eroge and moe JRPGs, but most vidya based off of actual vidya are shit.

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903dce  No.16888660

>>16888636

Lazy assholes like me who judge games from their splash images on DLSite.

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7ee867  No.16888693

>>16888660

For nukige that's a pretty good way to guess considering they usually just chuck a bunch of CGs into an image and call it a title.

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717849  No.16889318

>>16888451

I still actually haven't finished Sword Art Online vs Accel world. The thing about these games is they're Sword Art Online games, so they're supposed to also feel like an MMO right? For me Hallow Fragment felt a little bit like one. The only real thing I like about Sword Art Online vs Accel World is the music and some of the zones look nice. The combat is eh. The camera sucks. A lot of dungeons look the same. Like Hallow Fragment didn't even feel as copy pasted as SAO vs Accel World did, and I honestly preferred the combat in Hallow Fragment as slow as it felt. The boss fights in it also felt more MMO-like than SAO vs Accel World.

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73e919  No.16889320

>>16888136

The lewd ones are good.

Otherwise, they're overwhelmingly garbage

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894957  No.16889327

Dragonball Fusions for 3ds was good fun

a young saiyan and a customizable protagonist make a wish on the dragon for the ultimate martial arts tournament. What follows is a 5 on 5 tactical RPG running through various DB locations that have been crammed together as a result of the wish, fighting against a wide variety of originalthecharacters as well as time and dimensional traveling characters from the shows. And then Bulma invents a bracelet based on the potara earrings and fucking anyone can fuse

Ginyu Force are maximum bros

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1cce8d  No.16889463

>>16888655

>most vidya based off of actual vidya are shit.

Wew

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aec4ed  No.16889611

I have played several video games based off of the Detective Conan series and they've all been bad. The wii game is total trash. The GBC games are decent but nothing special, the first game is pretty straightforward but the sequel isn't worth the bother. The one good thing about the wii game was that it had dual audio.

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3fdefe  No.16891104

File: 8d440b57426c7b7⋯.png (1.74 MB, 800x1124, 200:281, ClipboardImage.png)

Was this any good? I've heard super mixed things about it

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717849  No.16891115

>>16891104

I heard it's really shit. Like you have to be a BIG Tokyo Ghoul fan to like it.

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3fdefe  No.16891203

>>16891115

yeah, that's more or less what I had heard. I'm about halfway through the manga right now and like it a lot, but the game looks pretty rough around the edges. It also has a massive discount on Amazon.jp which usually only happens with the absolutely shit anime games.

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bf793c  No.16891431

>>16888136

Alright OP, I've played a few here's my rundown

>Hokuto no Ken: Lost Paradise

Its a yakuza clone set in the Fist of the North Star mad max wasteland but featuring a post-apocalyptic city built around an old world high-tech shelter that provides the food and water. Its a Yakuza clone where you make people explode. Its okay, i'd say, the main appeal is getting really good at exploding people and being a badass like in the manga/anime.

>Attack on Titan/A.O.T.2

Pretty fun where you zip around in the air really fast with your vertical maneuvering equipment. Some people call it repetitive and it sort of is but killing titans in a single well-aimed blow is satisfying enough, though you'll have to do it around 30-50 times per mission which some people might find annoying, I was okay with it since I recognized it as the core gameplay interaction.

>Sword art Online: Fatal Bullet

I knew it was going to be mediocre at best going in but I still went for it since I was looking for a third-person shooter with character customization fix, which I still haven't really found please gib recommendations, the faces are wonky as fuck and the outfits are just that; outfits, not cool looking armors that reflect your progression in the game like I was hoping for. As for how it plays as a third-person shooter, I'd call it middle-of-the-road but I honestly haven't played it beyond the introductory sequence.

Basically the trend here among anime games is that they're typically middling and meant to exploit certain fanbases who will buy anything in the franchise. There happen to be a lot of those kinds of games this generation it seems.

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42e9e3  No.16891551

File: 0186267199a98d0⋯.png (33.98 KB, 700x373, 700:373, 83D2ACC7_B2F6_474E_9639_6B….png)

Speaking of, anyone know some good places to download manga? Nyaa has a pretty limited selection and most of the torrents are dead.

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de4ac4  No.16891566

>>16891551

I have this application on my vita that bulk downloads manga from a bunch of sites. I'll list them here but I don't know if you'll need to script the bulk dl yourself.

mangareader.net

mangahub.io

mangadex.org

mintmanga.live

readcomicsonline.ru

inmanga.com

rawdevart.com

readmanga.me

mangapanda.com

animaregia.net

desu.me

leomanga.me

lelscan-vf.com

scan-fr.co

mangatown.com

here's the github if it helps https://github.com/Creckeryop/NOBORU

I don't know of any Windows PC applications.

saging for offtopic

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3fdefe  No.16891883

>>16891566

You are wonderful, thank you very much

>vita can bulk download mangas

I swear, a hacked vita has got to be my favorite console of all time.

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42e9e3  No.16903265

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Speaking of anime games, I had completely forgot this was a thing

>a battle royale Jojo game that is exclusive to arcades

I can’t tell if it’s hilarious, genius, or sad.

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cfbb37  No.16903272

Most Anime games are shit because they're either just self referential or just flash you with tons of unskippable cutscenes mid game. Jojo ASB is the only one I've had any fun with because I got it when the last patch was rolling out with free DLC characters, and even that one is still not as good as a traditional fighting game. HttF is the only one worth playing.

>>16903265

It's just boring from what I've seen. You roam around the map waiting for someone to appear and then just punch him twice and they're dead.

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1a94b7  No.16903284

trash and they're all the same.

i used to like some really good IPs like BoF and wild arms but anime games nowadays are all this uguu moeshit and atelier peepe and atelier poopoo over and over again.

i cant even get into code vein because of how moeshit is even though its probably my favorite genre of game.

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bea37d  No.16903289

>>16891551

If you're okay to use android, I use Tachiyomi.

https://tachiyomi.org/

Just download whatever catalogue you want to, and then download the series you want to download.

The only thing is that the download is just individual images of each page, rather than a single file for each chapter.

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2f332e  No.16903292

Trials of Mana seems pretty decent from the demo. Obvious anime aesthetic, and they've kept decently close to the original designs while rendering them in 3D. I just hope the final game isn't a shitshow.

>>16903284

I don't recall any moeshit in Code Vein. There were cute girls but it wasn't like dating or gaining affection with them was possible. The best you could do was give people stuff so they would give you stuff.

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7fd8c0  No.16903299

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>>16891104

This game, hero academia, the latest one piece game and most other anime games feel like they place the exact same way.

I can't put my finger on what it is exactly but they do feel like copy paste jobs.

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717849  No.16903302

>>16903292

That Sakura Wars game that also comes out this month doesn't look bad either.

>>16903299

Most Bandai Namco anime games feel like uninspired cash grabs.

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c40784  No.16903451

File: 9b67f11004b8f4d⋯.png (25.14 KB, 112x112, 1:1, 543080048710778882.png)

They're pretty much the modern state of license game where they're almost all low quality but people who really like the properties will buy and defend them.

It's actually funny and sad when you see people nostalgic for those Budokai and Tenkaichi games because they were shit games but you can look at them and see there was at least an attempt with those games, then you look at like jump force, that BnH and one punch game see they couldn't even maintain Kusoge quality.

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614ea3  No.16903460

>>16888160

>Now

Reki Kawahara has been ripping off Korean Manga and Type Moon shit for more than 10 years now.

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614ea3  No.16903461

>>16903302

>Most Bandai Namco anime games feel like uninspired cash grabs.

That's because 99% they are.Bandai Namco are the EA / Activision of Anime games.

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42e9e3  No.16903475

>>16903289

I’ve been using Hakuneko and reading a ton recently.

>Fairy Tail

Really liked it even though it gets a ton of flak.

>Naruto

Great until the Shinobi War, then everything gets progressively worse until it’s pants on head retarded. Still not enough to ruin the previous chapters that made it good.

>Tokyo Ghoul

Not many complaints so far, not sure I dig the start of re but it’s enough to keep me interested. Feels like Kamen Rider Amazons got a ton of inspiration from this manga

>Bleach

Having a hard time getting past Ichigo’s character and pushing forward. He’s written like a Gary Stu.

I plan on throwing Magi, Zatch Bell, and maybe a VN in the mix.

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614ea3  No.16903480

File: f810b496fe5c3c0⋯.gif (591.55 KB, 500x281, 500:281, 1481426651934.gif)

>>16903475

>That spoiler

Anon?

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b46469  No.16903499

Fanbase and degenerate subject matters aside, Anime still looks like complete and utter shit. No wonder literal retards love it so much.

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894957  No.16903524

>>16903475

>Magi

you're gonna have a good time with this one

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9f95df  No.16903533

File: 37283c51b79af90⋯.jpg (45.77 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Eat_a_lemon.jpg)

Some can be good, like that kill la kill fighting game was pretty good. But anything with bandai's name on it will usually be trash tier.

Koei is hit or miss, and their DLC reminds me that piracy is a better option then most. AoT 2 was really fun, but that's because it is the first good spiderman game since spiderman 3 ps2 version.

Overall… still better then EA

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3fdefe  No.16903537

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>>16903480

HOW DO WE SURVIVE!?

>>16903524

I’m excited to get to it, my cousins been recommending it for a while now. I plan on starting it today after I finish Tokyo Ghoul re. It’s funny, for years I thought I had grown out of comics as one of my main hobbies when it turns out that comics just went to shit years ago long before the SJW infestation. Reading manga is like when you play an amazing vidya after only playing AAA shit for years.

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2dd773  No.16903567

anime games have a lot of potential for ideas that they could work out with, but unfortunately we get a lot of uninspired repetitive cash grabs coming out of Japan nowadays i wish we would had more anime games that take are more like diablo or baldur's gate 2 or open world action rpgs.

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f2f106  No.16903739

File: 5743ea9eb52ff3d⋯.jpg (60 KB, 583x358, 583:358, 5743ea9eb52ff3d7a7d4db2ae4….jpg)

>>16903567

Asking JRPG's to be more like classic WRPG's is like asking a chink to not be subhuman. It's just not possible. The closest they got was the *Souls series. The disparity between Japanese and Western masterpieces in vidya is very large and evident when you think about it.

The west has Deus Ex and System Shock. The east has… Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7, I suppose. Maybe Earthbound.

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614ea3  No.16903813

File: bb89ec9189ad9b4⋯.jpg (25.88 KB, 680x447, 680:447, my_nigga.jpg)

>>16903537

>Picking the most appropriate song

>>16903739

That's not really true now, is it? Xanadu Next explicitely tried to copy Diablo II, even if it ended up as something different. Same thing with Shiren, it tried to be Rogue or how about Baroque on the PS2? And its original on the Saturn? PS2 tried to be Rogue but without the turns and in 3D, while the Saturn version tried to be Wizardry without the menus. And so on.

Nips have been doing that shit for very, very long now that it's not exactly surprising. The thing is, a lot of them think of some cool idea because the most overhyped shit game over here has it and think it's the best thing ever and that they can work around without realising that the geniuses who worked in the past aren't even in the industry anymore and that their successors are people like Randy Pitchfuck and Todd. And when the old and new generation of nips tries to create a new wave of games now, they get cucked to hell and back from the shit ideas that come off as pandering. Ninja Gaiden 3 is the prime example and the biggest slap in the face the industry needed.

Think of all the old Nip only masterpieces and start comparing to the western masterpieces of old and you'll see that they aren't as different. Just like the manga of old were closer to franco-belgian comics of old in both storytelling and art instead of the divergent thing they have now.

Assuming you actually play games and aren't some newfag poser around here

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2dd773  No.16903866

File: 31637cb5758e0b8⋯.jpg (54.68 KB, 330x384, 55:64, WizGaiden1.jpg)

>>16903739

>asking jrpgs to be more like classic wrpg is not possible

except we have had nips make their own versions of classic wrpgs such as an wizardry gaiden, and etrian odyssey which are both pretty damn good im not saying that they should abandon jrpg as a whole nor should they make their games exactly like western rpgs but to bring new ideas and things into the genre. I dont see the harm in them making a game similar to something baldur's gate or icewind dale or even elders scrolls it still possible to make something of a master piece or outperform westerns in the genres they typical make games out of all the time.

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f2f106  No.16903962

File: 573cdaa24749667⋯.jpg (179.57 KB, 782x577, 782:577, 5ef6ccc256aed421d99ce26044….jpg)

>>16903813

I'm not saying Nip games are incapable of being masterpieces, just that the quality ceiling for nip games is lower than the quality ceiling for western games, if that makes any sense. Nip games have taken a clear direction more towards story-telling rather than gameplay (though, western games these days are guilty of the same thing). This wouldn't be a problem if Japanese storytelling was compelling but often it isn't. I'll admit that in terms of visual novels, Japs take the cake and eat it, too. But in genral, Japanese storytelling is cookie-cutter, even back in the glory days. You can almost bet money on a JRPG starring some singular entity having immense power or some evil god (lowercase g) taking over, or there being some scrawny character who is somehow capable of wielding massive weapons. Mecha/Gundam has the same problem. Armored Core is as close as they've gotten to being a more accurate and cool mecha video game series, though it still falls for the same gravity-defying design trope.

I'd also like to see Japs try some more innovate or relatively new genres. Especially nowadays, what Japanese indies put out can basically be summed up into Shoot-Em-Ups, RPG's, or turned-base SRPGs like Fire Emblem or Tactics Ogre. Rarely do I ever see a Japanese RTS/FPS/Adventure Game/Rogueli(t)e. Dungeon Crawlers akin to Might & Magic do exist in Japan, such as Etrian Odyssey, or if you want to be a bit more faithful, something like Nemuru Mayu - but those games are few and far between. Great Japanese dungeon crawlers, even further in between. There are only a few genres that Western game devs don't ever go near, such as Fighting Games or Shoot-Em-Ups.

Again, I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but there are many more Western masterpieces in video games (in much more diverse genres, mind you) than Japanese masterpieces.

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193a7b  No.16904072

>>16903475

>Having a hard time getting past Ichigo’s character and pushing forward. He’s written like a Gary Stu.

That's because he is one, and ironically it's not Tite Kubo's fault. The original Ichigo design and concept is out there (iirc, he was originally supposed to be an adult businessman with no hope that almost commits suicide but is stopped by supernatural events) but his editor basically informed him that the protagonist had to be an angsty teenager who can do no wrong. Because reasons.

According to the post-teenager-Ichigo original designs, Bleach was supposed to have ended with the Soul Society arc. But the Editors basically informed Kubo that if he didn't extend it, they would ensure he never got another job in the manga industry again. Kubo's own commentary on Bleach around the Hueco Mundo arc was "It's shit", and his appraisal is accurate.

My Hero Academia was another one that also had editors screwing up a potentially better plot. The plot originally wasn't about high schoolers, or children in general, the author is actually disgusted by the concept of children fighting and hates his own work (and it shows). The plot was originally about a salary-man with no power at all in a world of people with superpowers, a psychological story about being the powerless yet still pushing forward. Same editor as the guy who ruined Kubo's vision for Bleach, by the by.

Long story short, executive/editor meddling often ruins art.

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9e8088  No.16904074

>>16903475

>Having a hard time getting past Ichigo’s character and pushing forward.

Early Bleach (back when it was just urban fantasy and local ghostbusting) was still the best part, as was "five ambulances" street brawler Ichigo. Once he starts turning into a self doubting mess (and repeatedly at that) after Soul Society, he gets pretty annoying, until toward the end they make an entire arc out of just making him miserable. At best, shit should have ended with Aizen, and that should have been much, MUCH sooner than it was. You want something to be grateful of though, consider the fact that the entire series is over, and therefore you're not stuck with eighteen pages a week of extremely bad pacing and at least 2-3 pages being recap each time. There's a reason "nothing fucking happened" was a major complaint back when it was newly releasing.

Overall, Bleach a shit, and you could spend your time much better elsewhere. The openings/endings and OSTs are very good though (but being adaptation exclusive, have nothing do with the quality of the original writing).

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c43a46  No.16904077

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>>16888169

Accel World wasn't great but it wasn't fucking awful either unlike SAO. It's a shame that it's less popular than SAO, because I actually liked the characters. Yeah they were nothing special but they were likeable. And I have a thing for black haired dominant ambitious and morally ambiguous girls who geniuently love someone and stay loyal to them

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5faf6e  No.16904153

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Depends on the franchise.

>one piece

The games have always been terrible, just like the anime itself.

>dragon ball

Has a few legitimately good titles Advanced Adventure, Budokai 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 3, Another Road 2 well worth anyone's time, even if they don't know a thing about the series.

>berserk

Millennium Falcon is good, the musou is also fine if you like the genre, avoid otherwise.

>hokuto no ken

There's a couple 2d fighters, an adventure/beat em up for PS1 (sadly untranslated), two musous on PS3 and the newest one on PS4 which is kind of like the PS1 game. I can vouch for ken's rage 1 and lost paradise being good.

There's also that futari wa precure game on GBA (great, >tfw no more good precure games) and ghost sweeper mikami on SNES (pretty fun, the protagonist is cute and she changes dresses on every stage).

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a751ca  No.16904195

>>16888564

I haven't finished the game myself but I do lament that it won't get a followup as the developers intended a trilogy of games.

Combat is servicable but hampered by a clunky camera. Story is gothic horror meets WWII; vampires, werewolves, Frankenstein's monster and zombies. That kind of thing.

Worth a look but only if it's cheap for you to pick up.

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cc36b6  No.16904257

>>16904074

It's funny how people bitched about how drawn out the Bount arc was in the anime, but the whole series is way too long. I actually don't mind the story overall, but it should be a lot shorter.

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9e8088  No.16904287

>>16904257

Yeah, it's not like the anime didn't have its own problems, between the sheer amount of filler (like five fucking seasons worth in a sixteen season adaptation; I guess that says something on how often the show's pacing risked catching up), really fucking QUALITY animation/rendering at times, and increasing censorship of blood and gore as it went on.

I really do wish anime adaptations in general would wait until the source series is done or nearly done so as to avoid the typical issues suffered, but unfortunately it seems like there's more profit in capitalizing on early hype, whether it gets fully adapted or not.

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3fdefe  No.16904347

>>16903537

Whelp, finished Tokyo Ghoul re. I definitely see why some people hated it now. It basically just devolved into nonstop, hardcore guro, sadism, and torture porn. About the only thing I can say is that at least chapter 125 was nice I guess.

>>16904072

You aren’t kidding, sounds like both those takes are better.

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894957  No.16904366

>>16904287

>I really do wish anime adaptations in general would wait until the source series is done or nearly done

it's as easy taking a fucking break between seasons/arcs, something that some newer anime are actually doing (Boku no Hero Academia, Dr Stone), and something which English language TV figured out decades ago

no more unbroken runs means no need for slogs through filler, minimal burnout, and actual merit in catching up to the source material as you can plan with the author when the arc ends and the animators can take a break/work on other projects while he whips up new material

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621147  No.16904370

>>16904366

>something which English language TV figured out decades ago

Game of Thrones begs to differ (though that's over-rated normie trash). Most of the time, English language media just outright goes with it being an inspiration and deviates right out of the gate instead of making proper adaptations.

That said, I sorta appreciate the worst case example of this that was later fixed: Fullmetal Alchemist. I like the way the '03 series contrasts the better Brotherhood series, especially in relation to Scar ('03 had him continue down his path of vengeance, while Brotherhood looked towards redemption).

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894957  No.16904372

>>16904370

>FMA

>worst case example

actually that's probably the best case example for a deviation; they worked with the author to develop the entire alternate plot of the first series

early Brotherhood is paced in such a way as to assume familiarity with the original, and your best bet for perfect emotional impact and faithfulness to the story is to go with the first series up until the plot splits and switch to Brotherhood from that point

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9e8088  No.16904379

>>16904366

>it's as easy taking a fucking break between seasons/arcs, something that some newer anime are actually doing (Boku no Hero Academia, Dr Stone), and something which English language TV figured out decades ago

Yeah, but then you can wind up with shit like Index having, what, seven years between the second and third seasons, and having to pace shit be seasonal instead of just making a continuous tale and giving everything as long as it really needs.

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9e8088  No.16904383

>>16904379

>having to pace shit be seasonal instead of just making a continuous tale and giving everything as long as it really needs.

Especially when the studio doesn't know how much longer they'll keep getting funding to be able continue, I mean.

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894957  No.16904384

>>16904379

that's what risks catching up which in turn necessitates filler

a classic example: Rurouni Kenshin was catching up so they went and did the Kyoto arc and never returned to the main plot before cancellation

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90c5f5  No.16904399

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>>16903739

>The east has… Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7, I suppose. Maybe Earthbound.

Those are insanely overrated and nowhere close to Japan's best RPGs. I recommend the MegaTen series, Etrian Odyssey series, Dragon's Dogma and Valkyria Chronicles.

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621147  No.16904411

>>16904372

>>>16904372

>Good point. Maybe I should have said most prominent instead.

>Personally, I tell everyone to simply watch all of the '03 series first, because otherwise it will taint what is otherwise a good series. '03 isn't bad. It's still really, really good. It's just that Brotherhood is better. It's a lot easier to go from good to best, than to go from best to good, especially if you're using FMA as an anime introductory series.

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9ec8ea  No.16904417

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>>16903962

Either this is bait or you don't know shit.

I'm not going to be a weeaboo faggot defending the glorious nip overlords against the ebil westerners,but saying that their games tend to be shit is absolute bullshit.

>Story telling rather than gameplay

Stop pretending that Final Fantasy is the only JRPG franchise existing. And even in FF there are three games that are way more gameplay focused than plot (3 and 5).

But as I was saying,FF is just the most normalfag tier series around,more or less the FIFA of JRPGs. Fuck,just think about the series FF copied,Dragon Quest,and you'll find amazing games with a rock-solid combat system (if you don't think DQV is a masterpiece you clearly haven't played it).

You have the whole Shin Megami Tensei series,EXTREMELY different gameplay wise from DQ,along with its spin-offs (Devil Survivor,Raidou and DDS are all worth it).

What about Valkyrie Profile? Parasite Eve? Grandia? Lunar? Suikoden? The fucking mario RPGs? Romancing SaGa?

And those are all basic bitch titles. Don't act like an expert when you're ignorant in the matter.

>You can almost bet money on a JRPG starring some singular entity having immense power (…)

<Cliches only exist in JRPGs

>There being some scrawny character who is somehow capable of wielding massive weapons

Again,stop pretending that FF is the only series existing (by the way,even in FF Cloud is the only character wielding a giant sword up to the 10th game,so you're wrong even on that).

>Mecha/Gundam

Gundam is not the only mecha you know.

You're talking with a /m/ faggot here.

Just see the difference between Patlabor,Tetsujin 28,Gundam 079,a random Macross series (not Robotech for the love of God) and GaoGaiGar.

>Armored Core is as close as they've gotten to being a more accurate and cool mecha videogame series

<mecha

<accurate

Also this is just a matter of taste,if you like bulky mechs it doesn't mean that all other mechas are shit. Especially when some great games like Macross VFX2,Zone of the Enders 2,Bangai-O and Assault Suit Valken exist and feature quick mechas.

I love Battletech too by the way,but don't pretend that western mecha games aren't all "realistic" simulators.

>I'd like to see Japs try some more innovative or relatively new genres.

This is the wrongest thing you posted.

Leaving aside VNs,there are a fuckton of JP Adventure games,like Cing's titles (Hotel Dusk and Trace Memory are the best ones),Zero escape (ZTD doesn't exist),Phoenix Wright,Professor Layton,Famicom Tantei Club, Metal Slader Glory and the least goes on.

For roguelites/roguelikes you have Chunsoft that almost develops only them. And there are plenty of more obscure ones,like Cave Noire or Azure Dreams.

Also you're leaving out all of those games that are hard to describe in a genre,like Katamari Damacy,Trauma Center,Harvest Moon,Monkey Ball,Cubivore,Stretch Panic and shit.

>>16903962

>There are only a few genres that Western game devs don't ever go near,such as Fighting games

What the hell is Mortal Kombat then?

By the way,Jap horror games are miles better than western. Fatal Frame is enough.

West v East war is something that only idiots try to fuel,as they both have A LOT of masterpieces and what fucking matters is if the game's good or not.

Please refrain from posting shit like this,and instead go to play some good games.

The next time you want recs just ask instead of going full retard

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9e8088  No.16904425

>>16904384

Which is why if they actually care to make a proper adaptation from a manga, LN, or VN, wait until the work's done or almost finished. But no. Either it gets adapted in full with bad pacing (in either direction), gets episodes if not seasons of filler, an anime original ending/plot, or just gets dropped. And that's not getting into the 11-13 episode "adaptations" that intentionally only cover the early parts of the work, are rarely continued, and effectively just serve as advertisement for the original format rather than to actually bring the work to a different medium. Part of why I when it comes to anime I prefer watching series originally made for that format.

Oh, and about Index: the "Old Testament" (IE: first series) of the light novels had its 22nd and final volume released in Japan by October 10th, 2010. Season two of the anime saw it's first episode air out there only two days prior that. JC Staff was NOT hurting for material to adapt by that point, assuming they were to focus strictly on OT. And even then, season two and three would up pretty bad as adaptations compared to the first season.

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bf793c  No.16904426

>>16904399

Etrian Odyssey is a Wizardry clone. Wizardry being popular in Japan is one of the big reasons why they even started making games over there.

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a6c061  No.16904522

>>16904399

Actually think Bloodborne is System Shock/System Shock 2 tier.

>>16904417

Said it right.

>West v East war is something that only idiots try to fuel,as they both have A LOT of masterpieces and what fucking matters is if the game's good or not.

>Please refrain from posting shit like this,and instead go to play some good games.

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3fdefe  No.16904715

>>16904426

Etrian Odyssey is a low key masterpiece. The mapping system is as addicting as the rpg aspects.

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621147  No.16904884

>>16904522

The only point that was brought up that wasn't sperg bullshit was about how Japan doesn't do all genres.

For example, I can't think of a Japanese FPS. I'm sure there are some niche titles, but while we can compare western RPGs to Japanese RPGs, we can't do the same of all genres.

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b2c99f  No.16905383

>>16904884

>I can't think of a Japanese FPS

I think there was a first person brawler from Japan in the PS2, but that's about it. Resident Evil 7 is also technically an FPS, even though it's only because of the first person view and not the gameplay itself.

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b20f33  No.16907484

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>>16904417

You're a good /m/an of culture anon. Magnificently said.

>>16904426

Japan worships Sir-Tec circa Wizardry 1-5 to the point where they tried to get Woodhead to come to Japan and develop games with them.

>>16904884

> I can't think of a Japanese FPS

Lightgun games don't count? RE Survivor with a controller doesn't count? It's not that they don't exist, they are usually terrible outside of arcades.

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9e8088  No.16907523

>>16904884

>I can't think of a Japanese FPS

Doing a quick check, it seems there's a Metal Jacket for the PS1, but it was a first person mech shooter. Also a licensed Gundam shooter on the PSP (also mecha, obviously). But yeah, doesn't seem especially common, compared to them just bringing western developed ones overseas.

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cebf2f  No.16907642

>>16904425

>Which is why if they actually care to make a proper adaptation from a manga, LN, or VN, wait until the work's done or almost finished

From what I heard the anime is meant to advertise the manga, so that's why they do a few episodes, to give consumers a "taste" of the story/characters, and once the anime is over, they will go and buy the manga volumes.

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83bb87  No.16907647

>>16907484

>Japan worships Sir-Tec circa Wizardry 1-5 to the point where they tried to get Woodhead to come to Japan and develop games with them.

It's more that he married a Japanese woman and sold his shit easier to Japan.

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12cee4  No.16921376

>>16904366

Long-running adaptations of manga that have to insert filler to avoid catching up to the manga are a small, small minority of anime. Anime has always had shorter runs than American TV.

>>16904383

The studio gets its funding and marching orders from the production committee.

>>16907642

It all depends. The publisher benefits when people are given an incentive to buy the manga or novels, but publishers aren't the only ones who fund anime and not every adaptation is even the publisher's idea. They do profit from the anime too, so making more anime is also beneficial to them.

Making a one cour series is also less riskier. If it fails it's not such a big loss, and if it succeeds you can make more of it later.

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