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5d47b0 No.16879835[Last 50 Posts]
>Doom 2016 now a direct sequel to Doom 64
>Doom guy almost lost his humanity while staying in hell to fight demons
>Demons and Makyrs hate humanity because the Father Aka god in the doom universe abandon them for humanity
>Makyrs aren't angels, they are parasites who fools everyone posing as them since hell made it so.
>Demons and Makyrs are salty with humanity because they kicked their asses in the past, and the Father loves mankind over them
>it’s why doomguy received the seraphim's blessing and became the Doom Slayer
>People formed a religion over the doom slayer seeing him as a saint or even second coming of christ
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b7d041 No.16879840
>>16879835
>The church of Doom Slayer
huh.
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56ca27 No.16879841
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0453a7 No.16879846
>>16879840
I think the story sounds pretty neat for a doom game. I like idea of doom slayer is doom guy that gotten angelic powers because of his self sacrifice.
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641e83 No.16879853
>>16879835
>Makers look like angels and are associated with god
>aren't angels
Pretty convoluted plot
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bdaa05 No.16879855
>>16879846
I don't. He should've stayed just an angry guy who's so angry he turns it into strength.
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a2875c No.16879856
>Doom 2016 now a direct sequel to Doom 64
I was calling that at the time of its release
while everyone was crying about how it couldn't have been a sequel to Doom 2 due to incongruities between 2's ending and 2016's beginning, I noticed that the beginning slotted quite nicely after 64's
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c41595 No.16879859
That's actually not too bad. I was expecting them to fuck it up, like B.J Simpowitz in the new Wolfenstein games.
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641e83 No.16879861
>>16879855
He should just be a man with the determination to fight hell, not some superhuman demigod
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5d47b0 No.16879865
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>>16879855
>He should've stayed just an angry guy who's so angry he turns it into strength.
I think it’s still works. In the same way goku had to mad when he first turned into a super saiyan.
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686de2 No.16879868
NuDoom fucking sucks and I knew the plot was going to be fucking retarded from the moment they introduced angels but that doesn't make this any less irritating to read. Who the fuck thought any of this cringeworthy nonsense was a good idea? This is all rooted in the decision to make doomguy into a full on fucking demigod instead of just a tough as nails soldier, and that decision was such a fucking mistake.
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667a07 No.16879871
>>16879835
>Makyrs aren't angels, they are parasites who fools everyone posing as them since hell made it so.
Good. I was having a real aversion to this game because of the worry angels & by extension God would be enemies in the game. Especially in [CURRENT YEAR] with shit like Castlevania becoming anti religion.
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e6e549 No.16879872
>>16879865
But super saiyan is triggered by severe emotional trauma.
At least in the brief moment where dbz writing wasnt shit
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282446 No.16879878
I’m glad they didn’t go the route of making God the bad guy. We get enough of that from JRPG’s.
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571472 No.16879879
>>16879871
>>16879871
>Castlevania becoming anti religion.
Netflix castlevania still very pro Islam. It’s written by Warren Ellis after all.
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d607f0 No.16879882
>>16879871
That's not Castlevania. That's Netflix and Warren Ellis puppeting its corpse while normalfags clap.
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ec46e2 No.16879883
>>16879859
I think someone high up at Bethesda decided to hedge their bets and keep the rainbow hairs from atleast one of their games. Looking at how 76 turned out that may be the only thing that keeps them afloat.
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571472 No.16879884
>>16879868
It could’ve been worse compared to Nu-wolfenstien and rage 2. Doom stayed apolitical. If this is the root that the rumored love action Quake reboot will take. I am okay with that.
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b69810 No.16879887
hope this is true. I was really afraid DOOM Eternal was going to go the 'fuck all religion' route when I saw what looked like Angels in the trailers.
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282446 No.16879888
Did they keep the whole demons=refugee dialogue?
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5d47b0 No.16879889
>>16879882
I don’t think even normalfags even like Netflix Castlevaina compared to Aggretsuko and devilman cry baby. Especially after season 3.
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5d47b0 No.16879890
>>16879888
>Did they keep the whole demons=refugee dialogue?
In game text called him mortal challenge referencing the zombies.
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6cc6e5 No.16879900
>>16879865
>In the same way goku had to mad when he first turned into a super saiyan.
Nigger what? Super Saiyans were originally just saiyans powered up from some grueling hardship, they weren't genetically endowed gods predisposed to their power-ups.
Or at least that's how it was until pic related came out.
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c639cb No.16879907
Doom confirmed most christian game.
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c41595 No.16879909
>>16879872
>But super saiyan is triggered by severe emotional trauma.
I always thought that was just something Goku needed because even though he had the power within, his morality meant he was subconsciously holding the transformation back, and someone like Vegeita and Cabbage wouldn't be subjected to that.
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6cc6e5 No.16879915
>>16879909
No, all Super Saiyan is (was) massive strength gained after suffering some emotional debilitating hardship that causes a Saiyan to let loose with their unrestrained rage and power.
>someone like Vegeita
His hardship was letting go of his pride for 2 seconds after nearly dying to train to surpass Goku
>Cabbage
Retcon bullshit from Super doesn't count.
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8b626f No.16879924
>hooktube
I swear to god, I know you're not newfags since we're basically the ones who discovered it. but you might as well link to youtube proper since its the same shit now. Use invidio.us instead.
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40f14b No.16879945
>YHWH, the god of Israel and of Seraphim loves the Doom Slayer
Based Besthesda.
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5d47b0 No.16879946
>>16879924
>Use invidio.us instead.
Pretty sure invidio.us was compromised now.
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479bff No.16879960
>>16879946
It still gives Jewgle your info but doesn't count views.
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5d47b0 No.16879968
>>16879960
>It still gives Jewgle your info but doesn't count views
I thought you wanted to do the other way around? Give views but not information.
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6b6b30 No.16879970
Well, I don't mind it.
The savior comes, not to help your immortal soul, but to defeat evil with loadsa guns.
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8b626f No.16879992
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016869 No.16879993
Sounds pretty neat actually, doomguy ascended due to being very fucking angry.
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ab6326 No.16880002
>>16879835
This sounds like dumb fanfiction.
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811376 No.16880004
>Lore.
>In Doom.
Sounds stupid. I'm sure there will be plenty of walking cutscenes so you can't skip the story either.
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b12480 No.16880062
Is Isabelle Doomslayer's waifu?
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bb4cf1 No.16880063
That sounds dumb, doomguy didn't need explanation
I liked nu-doom having complicated lore that was contrasted by the silly 90's cheese premise, it was kinda charming that all that demon magic shit and corporate plots and ancient struggles were based around the core of just some shootman in action figure army guy armor being so angry that he survived a universe reboot and became a figure of worship that was locked away in a coffin for everyone's protection like a fucking elder vampire
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4cdb7d No.16880069
>>16879855
You can only take "angry guy with guns" so far before you have to give up and admit that yeah, he has some sort of super natural power backing him up and letting him do this shit. Otherwise the only other option is to just say "actually Hell is super overrated and not as dangerous as we thought, and the demons and devils that mankind has feared for thousands of years are actually just huge pathetic pussies that can be utterly destroyed by something as mundane as shotgun shell to the face."
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479bff No.16880084
>>16880069
>You can only take "angry guy with guns" so far before you have to give up and admit that yeah, he has some sort of super natural power backing him up and letting him do this shit.
Or maybe everyone here is an angry guy with a gun and the original was made for them while this game is made for redditors who have never seen a firearm in their lives.
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4688e0 No.16880092
>>16880069
>You can only take "angry guy with guns" so far before you have to give up and admit that yeah, he has some sort of super natural power backing him up and letting him do this shit.
No, you don't. You just make him the guy who "breaks" the natural order, and causes everyone to re-examine everything that they know because he's someone who's doing the impossible, and showing that it is possible. Going "Hell is a pushover" is not doing Doomguy justice. It's like saying inviting Usain Bolt to the Special Olympics, and stating that "These races are a push over" because he's able to run the 100 meter dash in under 10 seconds while the rest of the kids are digging for gold.
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bb4dbc No.16880093
>doom guy is an angry Jesus' half brother adopted by God to kill demons and not-demons
I'll take it and only because it's a nice break from the whole emo/goth fallen angel shit that's been popular for the last 20 years or so.
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edd523 No.16880097
You know what? Compared to the landscape being filled with political garbage and what happened with Wolfenstein, I'll take this. It could have been a hell of a lot worse.
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811376 No.16880099
>>16880069
I have been playing Doom on and off for 20 years and I have never once thought "You know, maybe this guy is secretly a demi-angel." or whatever. Also your "only possible alternative ever" tells me you always play Easy mode.
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e0ad95 No.16880114
>>16880099
This.
Except I am a babby Doomer who mostly only plays mods like BD.
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811376 No.16880119
>>16880069
>Armies of demons who exist only to kill are not a threat if corporeal weaponry can kill them.
How new do you have to be to not have at least heard of 40k?
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ec2c4c No.16880121
STOP MAKING EVERY-MAN VIDEOGAME PROTAGONISTS INTO GAY ASS MESSIAHS
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33a84c No.16880151
>>16879840
>Doom 2016 now a direct sequel to Doom 64
For fucks sake.
At least it's over the top and not edgelord tier. Not like the game will be worth playing the first place.
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05f98f No.16880160
>>16879835
>Doom 2016 now a direct sequel to Doom 64
Worst game in the series is now a sequel to the best game in the series.
Not sure how I feel about this.
Doomguy doesn't need fucking blessings or to be chosen by special angels, he needs to be angry and punch things until they explode into mist because he's so pissed off.
Having him as just an angry force of nature is more appealing than knighting him with a sword from some heavy metal album cover.
>>16879865
>In the same way goku had to mad when he first turned into a super saiyan.
Don't you know? Goku's constant near-death battles (and his actual death) led to a large build up of midichlorians S-Cells and it's the S-Cells that allow a Saiyan to go Super. And that's why Trunks and Goten could go Super so easy, because they were conceived by Saiyans who were already Super.
Aren't retcons fun?
>>16879909
Get out of here with your plot and character building. FUCKING NANOMACHINES SON!
>>16880069
>You can only take "angry guy with guns" so far before you have to give up and admit that yeah, he has some sort of super natural power backing him up and letting him do this shit.
You can only take it so far, that's true, and Doom only needs to take it so far, because that's all Doom fucking is.
>>16880114
Nothing wrong with Brutal Doom as far as gameplay goes (although I do turn reloads off because Doom isn't about fucking reloading)
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c5514e No.16880206
>>16879835
>Demons and Makyrs hate humanity because the Father Aka god in the doom universe abandon them for humanity
>the Father loves mankind over them
Sounds like a generic episode of Supernatural.
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c7c8a9 No.16880211
Why in the nigger loving fuck does the player character always have to be "the chosen one™"? Why can't Doom guy just be a grunt blasting demons? It's exactly like the shit Blizzard did between Diablo 2 and Diablo 3, instead of just being a regular adventurer the game went
>NEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEMNEPHALEM
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33a84c No.16880212
>>16880211
Because being cool on your own merits and effort is yucky and is for losers. Why it even shows in the gameplay. Why have an entertaining challenge when you can just go "uuuh every enemy is a blood pinata press the button and watch the cool moves™ happen"
Fuck me even the Doom4 TC for Quake sucked dick.
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e0ad95 No.16880217
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f3bfe6 No.16880218
>>16880069
>Armies of demons are evaporating because of super advanced weaponry
<It must totally be the guy that's breaking the natural laws
I've fired rifles and machinegunsthe one type they allow / order us at lower infantry ranks for basic army training and I can tell you, if people had the weapons Doomguy has and they were that lightweight, you'd go around shredding everything as well. The only reason to assume Doomguy ever could tank so many hits and could do bullshit dashes was power armour and it wasn't that much of a stretch in either the OG games nor Doom3.
>>16880211
Because after Gothic it's forbidden to think like that anon, don't you know that Master Chief is kewl and does the dewrito so you have to do so too to be speshul? Or like how you're the super special awesome military guy in all the games?
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bd1dc5 No.16880219
This is a misleading post, op made it sounds as if the game as a whole got leaked. Also hey at least we get more doom 64 levels that and normies get to try out Doom 64. Another thing, is I used to also be upset with the new direction of Doom until I realized realisticly they could never release Doom just like they did back in the day. At least we get this unique gameplay style instead of the generic garbage that Doom 4 was going to be originally.
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bd1dc5 No.16880220
Another thing, complaining about the story in a Doom game seems like a waste of time, unless that story gets in the way of gameplay.
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8c032d No.16880221
>>16879835
What the fuck is this gay shit? Give us back the angry meathead marine that kills monsters and doesn't afraid of anything. Not this fucking teenager's heroic plot.
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33a84c No.16880222
>>16880217
I haven't played it. But Testaments really had the same issues as regular Doom 4.
Lack of enemy counts, fights that end way too quickly, lack of clever use of terrain, lack of enemy specializations or weapons that aren't just straight up upgrades and those obnoxiously loud possessed deafening you and overshadowing every other volume in the game. Maybe it's just the demo but I think I'm passing.
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d82c9a No.16880224
Did Sandy Petersen write the plot?
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e0ad95 No.16880227
>>16880222
Testaments? Wuzzat?
I've played a few levels of Maps of Chaos with this installed and I had more fun with it than I did that one time I played D4, or the VR version for that matter. Not as good as Brutal Doom.
I think I'll stick with La Tailor Girl though.
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e0ad95 No.16880228
>>16880227
>that spacing
I think it may be time to stop posting and not sleep.
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33a84c No.16880229
>>16880227
Slayer's Testaments, the total conversion for Quake. It's just a one level demo but I wasn't impressed.
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1d30fa No.16880275
>>16879945
The Talmud is satanic.
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acf03e No.16880280
>>16879856
>>16879868
>Doom
>Plot
>>16879924
what happened to Hooktube?
>>16880219
NuDoom's main flaw for me, is the "horde" system. I don't have an issue with Serious Sam style games, but often when playing Doom 4, I find myself at full health then just suddenly dying for seemingly no reason. I can only assume that some demon spawned behind me and I didn't know, or there's some Shotgun Zombie way off in the distance.
I'm about halfway through the game, got the BFG. Gave up on one part in particular because the checkpoint is right before you take down a small horde of pinkies and those slow moving things. But it's right before a "Demonic Invasion" lockdown, so you have to be careful not to lose any health and save ammo, forcing you to take it slowly. Then, once that demonic invasion is done, it doesn't save and there's another fucking horde you have to take down after all your resources are used up. I hate that shit. I'd rather run down hallways blasting demons with my shotgun.
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acf03e No.16880287
>>16880283
That sucks. Too bad vidliii can't be embedded.
https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=4VbDbYTTxlr
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d4c169 No.16880292
>>16880119
Aren't the imperial guardsman borderline cannon fodder in the 40k universe?
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30f4c4 No.16880294
>>16879835
That doesn't actually sound that bad, I expected way worse.
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8581a5 No.16880299
>>16879835
Pretty boring. I liked the idea that 2016+ Doomguy was literally the fucking guy and the 1st wave security forces on Mars that got killed first, thrown into the revenant machine, but due to all of them literally dying knee-deep in the dead and with their last memories being FUCKING DEMONS coming out as a frankenstein's monster fuelled by twisted demon souls and the spirit of unyielding hatred and wrath for the abominations of hell, having jumbled thoughts that are nothing but FUCKING DEMONS and pretty much continuing their jobs, completely unaware they they are the demons. Doom 1&2 dude is somewhere else, probably.
Would compliment Doomguy's cut Quake lines very nicely.
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e0ad95 No.16880303
>>16880292
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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4688e0 No.16880304
>>16880218
>don't you know that Master Chief is kewl and does the dewrito so you have to do so too to be speshul?
The thing about MC was that he was one of the LAST members of the Spartan II program. While the inital trilogy does set him up as an almost "god-like" characters, the rest of the series makes out just how badly the UNSC was losing the war. The original reason for the Spartan II program was even started was to quell an upcoming civil war in the outlying systems, but, once the Covenant arrived, that all changed. In fact, perhaps the entire point of Reach was pointing out that being a Spartan wasn't something special because that entire game is about watching the literal "home" for those guys being glassed into oblivion (Because all of the Spartan IIs were kidnapped into the military as a child), with all the Spartans being slaughtered left and right.
When it really comes down to it, Halo is a downright depressing series.
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4688e0 No.16880306
>>16880219
>normies
Leave newfag!
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f3bfe6 No.16880325
>>16880304
That doesn't erase his Gary Stu status, it just makes him even more of a Stu since he know has the special cool backstory of being the special survivor and shit. Halo is dumb, always been that and Reach or 343 lore raping isn't going to suddenly make it sad.
And before giving (you)s to obvious bait, you should try to conceal yourself better, (((fellow anonymous)))
>>16880303
Oh, I'm sorry anon, did that retard's mistake ripped your ass in twain? That's fine, wait until the hordes of newfags come here and think that Warhammer has to do with the diverse kids that invent stuff to fight the orcs and how they are endorsed by the BLACK ED Library as well when the Marvel crossover happens.
Or are you gonna pretend that any WH40K shit after the first Edition is any good, especially when the space furries entered the realm and people started taking things seriously like the faggot /k/ and /pol/ larpers we often get in here
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e0ad95 No.16880350
>>16880325
I just watch the Bruva Alphabusa videos.
I played a single game of WH40K in a Gamesworkshop when I was twelve because my mom wanted me to get out more (topkek). I wasn't really enthralled by a hobby that costs more than M:TG, nevermind the fact that I was shit at painting models.
The lore is both the best and worst part of the whole thing.
In short I was just Sly Marbo posting.
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c0cc4b No.16880380
>>16880304
>>16880325
Only the first Gaylo was good and didn't treat MC like a fucking God that could handle the vacuum of space, teleport everywhere and survive atmospheric drops.
The first Halo was guerrilla fighting Ayys through a mysterious ring world that is implied to be built by ancient humans while finding an even bigger and scarier threat than the Ayys that are bringing Humans to extinction.
Despite all the fellating in the manual and back of the box advertising,you are special, but not on the grand scheme of things, and the Captain is a much more important figure, you're still fragile and you barely survive.
Shits a enjoyable pulpy SciFi
The sequels are rushed formulaic Hollywood type trash huffing their own farts, Halo 2 makes half of the first games efforts absolutely meaningless in the first 5 minutes, it's pure garbage.
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de5adc No.16880382
>>16880380
Anon, real people have survived atmospheric deops without equipment
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479bff No.16880395
>>16880382
Have any of them survived terminal velocity?
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479bff No.16880474
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SgtMark dislikes NuDoom and NuDoom 2 and thinks they're consoleshit games
All the DoomWorld and cuckchan trannies are assblasted while pretending they don't care about his opinion.
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5d47b0 No.16880508
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>Polygon already assblasted over Doom not being political and racist against demons and undead
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1727cb No.16880518
>>16879882
If you don't think the sony made reboot isn't going to follow the netflix series to the word you're kidding yourself. That is Castlevania now.
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479bff No.16880519
>>16880518
> the sony made reboot isn't going to follow the netflix series to the word you're kidding yourself. That is Castlevania now.
The fuck are you talking about?
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743d30 No.16880520
>Doom 2016 now a direct sequel to Doom 64
I figured this was gonna happen after it was confirmed that the new Doom 64 port was getting a new chapter
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56ca27 No.16880525
>deathmatch removed because (((Pete Hines))) says such a gamemode is too old and shouldn't be in the game just because Doom had it decades ago
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fbfd45 No.16880530
>>16880519
Sony is trying to buy Konami IP's to keep the Kojima Cult going. They're so out of ideas they just want to prop up Kojima and have him make Silent Hills. They also want Castlevania for some reason and given that Sony is headed by a bunch of Califonian Jews I don't think it's a stretch to say they probably love Netflix's gay take on Castlevania
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479bff No.16880537
>>16880530
>Sony is trying to buy Konami IP's
Source?
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4688e0 No.16880542
>>16880474
Sounds like the guy's overall criticism is that nuDoom and Eternal are first-person "character action" games instead of being an actual first-person shooter.
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54604f No.16880547
>>16880518
>That is Castlevania now.
No it isn't.
>>16880530
There's no way in hell that Sony is going to be able to make a Castlevania game that won't completely fail. Hell even at the end Konami couldn't make a good Castlevania game what with the Lords of Shadow reboot failing.
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b546e4 No.16880548
>>16880474
>All the DoomWorld and cuckchan trannies are assblasted while pretending they don't care about his opinion.
>Based your opinion in games on a YouTube e-celebs
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b546e4 No.16880549
>>16880530
>they probably love Netflix's gay take on Castlevania
Sony now ran by Californians that run Sony picture. They will probably make Netflix castlevania canon with gay anal sex and all.
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abebc1 No.16880551
>>16879872
Does Vegeta throwing a chimper-tantrum count of "severe emotional trauma"?
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56ca27 No.16880552
>>>/v/16880548
>youtube e-celebs
He's the creator of Brutal Doom, you cuckchan rapefugee.
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7864c3 No.16880553
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>Doomguy is just a regular guy
Why does he die in the first game and keep fighting, then?
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479bff No.16880555
>>16880542
>The werewolf can grapple you
>Instead of boring ass press X to get free you actually have to shoothing quickly to get him off
>You can dodge shoot
>That lighting
>Those animations
That's pretty cool, is the game any good?
Looks right up my alley and much better than fucking God of War
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479bff No.16880556
>>16880548
>YouTube e-celebs
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e0acfd No.16880557
>>16879865
From worst to best, except for the Team Fourstar faggotry which is only slightly better than the bad Japanese voice acting and distracting out of place bad Japanese soundtrack.
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479bff No.16880560
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>>16880557
>bad Japanese soundtrack
You shut your whore mouth
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17ef0e No.16880562
>>16880069
No, you really don't. People love the idea of "Man too angry to die". Look at everyone's favorite example, Guts. Oh, sure, Guts has supernatural armor that causes this, but that's just for the convenience of the viewer just like how the Eye of Sauron was a physical eye in the LoTR movies.
Guts would have been written as too angry to die regardless of if he had the armor. It's kind of similar to Doom Guy in a way. Even before Bethesda fucked it up with this Seraphim's blessing shit, Doom Guy was already written as a man of pure rage who wants revenge on all the demons for the loss of life they've caused.
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74f436 No.16880586
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479bff No.16880587
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>>16880562
>Guts has supernatural armor that causes this
Except when the manga was actually good and he didn't have bullshit literal plot armor along with magic deus ex cancer.
It was Guts vs Demons in the fringes of society and it was good.
Now, it's generic shounenshit with top tier art which is still worse than the art that came before.
Imagine actually doubling down on Puck like characters.
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54cca3 No.16880588
>>16880525
Doom deathmatch is literally the easiest most basic shit to make. Make maps, scatter weapons in map, get to gibbing. It doesn't even have to be great, just a simple arena deathmatch.
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faa867 No.16880598
>>16880562
Guts' armor is only supernatural in that it lets him go berserk, dulls his pain, and keeps his joints in place. It only lets his body do things he wouldn't, not what he couldn't.
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b1b7a2 No.16880603
>no mention of doomguy's pet rabbit whatsoever
That sucks. I know this would be a goofy and less serious plot, but it would have been nice if the Angels/Makyrs had been behind Daisy's death. Whether it was because of an accident, a sacrifice or just doing it for shits and giggles wouldn't matter as now Doomguy is angrier and more determined than ever to kill the Makyrs, without even realizing they're not actual angels.
Might as well add shit like this if you're going to make doomguy fight some weird ass doppelgängers instead of just demons, at least then it would have been more connected to the original game's plot.
>>16880525
>too old of a gamemode
>for a game that was dickriding the small resurgence in popularity the original DOOM games had in first place
>team deathmatch is the future goyim
Fuck that mutant. I swear even Todd Howard is like Jesus in comparison to that faggot.
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efad0d No.16880612
>oneangrygamer doesnt know how to remove the disclaimer
https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1239994893482639361
What a fucking idiot. 😂😂
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7fdb2d No.16880613
>>16880218
>don't you know that Master Chief is kewl and does the dewrito so you have to do so too to be speshul?
Master Chief was never the special chosen one, until 343 started lore raping the franchise with Halo 4 onwards.
>>16880597
Even funnier since everyone was praising the previous game for not focusing on the story and having very few cutscenes.
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4688e0 No.16880615
>>16880603
>I know this would be a goofy and less serious plot, but it would have been nice if the Angels/Makyrs had been behind Daisy's death. Whether it was because of an accident, a sacrifice or just doing it for shits and giggles wouldn't matter as now Doomguy is angrier and more determined than ever to kill the Makyrs, without even realizing they're not actual angels.
>Might as well add shit like this if you're going to make doomguy fight some weird ass doppelgängers instead of just demons, at least then it would have been more connected to the original game's plot.
Don't forget that Doomguy is a virgin as well, meaning that the guy has no interest in romantic relationships. So, the only real attachment he had in the world was Daisy, and losing her caused him to snap.
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479bff No.16880617
>>16880603
>>no mention of doomguy's pet rabbit whatsoever
There is you idiot
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5d47b0 No.16880620
>>16880603
There a major Daisy Easter egg.
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5d47b0 No.16880621
>>16880612
Was this the website that didn’t know Superman red son was a anti-communist story?
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39373a No.16880622
>>16879871
>>16879868
Reminder that demons are just the angels that that decided to follow Satan in saying fuck you to God. So it's no surprise that some of them still look like well, angels. I'm gonna be disappointed if they haven't taken inspiration from actual biblical demons and angels though
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efad0d No.16880625
>>16880621
I don't know but what I do know is that he should calm down and be more level headed.
Maybe then he would know never to trust leaks until they have been proven correct, because fake leaks leak out all the time or may end up being rather different all together by the time the game comes out, especially with properties such as smash bros.
That blizzard employee leak though, was a fucking goldmine.
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4688e0 No.16880628
>>16880622
>I'm gonna be disappointed if they haven't taken inspiration from actual biblical demons and angels though
When have they ever?
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39373a No.16880636
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e6e549 No.16880637
>>16880621
Is this about the movie? not only did it butcher the source material but also added fucking gays in a soviet union story.
What a joke.
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bd1dc5 No.16880638
I feel Sgt Mark IV summarizes it well.
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bd1dc5 No.16880640
8kun keeps on not letting me embed youtube vids so here's the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTL-y_6s4Vg&feature=youtu.be
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5d47b0 No.16880642
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>>16880637
>Is this about the movie?
I figure they ruined red son. But no. I was talking about no bullshit. Didn’t he write for one angry gamer at one time or I am thinking about someone else? He pretty much soyboy the quartering. And that’s saying something.
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bd1dc5 No.16880643
They keep making comics liberal because their autistic fanbase keeps on giving them free press by complaining about it. >>16880642
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e6e549 No.16880646
>>16880643
Press that does fuck all, since the sales have been tanking for years.
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bd1dc5 No.16880647
>>16880646
Well it's corporate stooges trying anything, I'm just saying why they do it.
I don't understand why people have to complain about a new thing existing when they could spend time doing anything else. Like it's just people sitting in their own annoyance.
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80eb58 No.16880654
>>16880647
American capeshit comics have always been jewish and they have always pushed the same agenda, they don't do it for sales.
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b03a79 No.16880658
So, nuid completely missed the point of Doomguy entirely? Doomguy as Romero stated was supposed to be us, the player. It was us who tore through demons and hell itself and sent them packing and now instead of being Doomguy we are instead playing as some unkillable Gary Stu blessed by God himself.
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bd1dc5 No.16880666
>>16880654
Ok that conspiracy sounds retarded and insane. Capitalist mega-corps make things to make money. If comics made no money they wouldn't do it. Why would they make propaganda for a for a form of literature that a small portion of people read. They clearly are making enough money if they still making comics, it sucks that the cape shit fans are being excluded but they clearly have a new audience.
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a1916b No.16880673
>>16880666
Propaganda doesn't rely on profit, Satan.
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39373a No.16880674
>>16880666
>Capitalist mega-corps make things to make money.
I wish
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bd1dc5 No.16880680
>>16880673
Explain to me what the propaganda is.
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80eb58 No.16880681
>>16880666 (satan detected)
>Ok that conspiracy sounds retarded and insane.
It's not a "conspiracy" and this is really a matter of fact.
>Capitalist mega-corps make things to make money.
What's the point of making money? Power, if you can exert power but lose money then that's a decent deal. These entities may lose money on the absolute dogshit they publish, but since they have such a control over the market they don't have to worry anyway. They're making bank on licenses and reprints of older and less openly hostile comics. There's like two gigantic publishers of capeshit in America, so there's barely any competition.
Do you really think Microsoft only want to give you the best product imaginable when they sell you their OS? I swear, you marxist-liberal autists and your retarded focus on money as some kind of god is so tiring.
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bd1dc5 No.16880683
>>16880681
Here's the thing with mega-corps, they actually hate progressive values, they posture them for money and pr. Progressive values are against monopolies. These mega-corps are those things. Why do you have to call anyone who disagrees with you satan?
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bd1dc5 No.16880685
I just realized, this is getting off-topic from doom. Lets drop this.
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080f78 No.16880690
Fuck, I see "leak" and get immediately excited for an NSP. Gay ass story.
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44458a No.16880692
>>16880666
nice gaslighting satan.
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39373a No.16880693
>>16880683
>>16880685
>it's another case of some boomer trying to "deradicalize" those ebil nazi gamers
More talk about killing satan, less fringe economics.
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80eb58 No.16880694
>>16880680
Their usual slop, feminism, blood libel and anti-white shit, muh holohoax, orange man bad, men bad, and so on.
>>16880683
>Here's the thing with mega-corps, they actually hate progressive values
No, they enforce and disseminate them. "Progressivism" is completely tied with the interests of globalism and the interests of transnational corporations. No borders means cheaper labor that they are free to move around, no ethnic or cultural identity to create better consumers not loyal to other things than consumerism, gays are better consumers, etc. "Progress" is a meme entirely pushed by the mercantile aristocracy and the financial sector. As for the satan thing that was due to your trips.
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bd1dc5 No.16880698
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80eb58 No.16880701
>>16880698
No wonder you're so brainwashed. Mark will probably ban me soon, but before he does I'm going to recommend this book to you, lad. You will need to read more than that to get a grip on things, but maybe it will set you a little more straight.
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acf03e No.16880703
>>16880698
Then you're either a newfag or started posting here when you were 14. Oh well, guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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39373a No.16880704
>>16880698
That certainly explains why you're currently espousing an inherently globalist ideology despite the outbreak of a pandemic made possible only because of how globalized the world has become.
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4688e0 No.16880705
>>16880666
>Ok that conspiracy sounds retarded and insane.
Well, Satan, it is an exaggeration, but it isn't a retarded assessment. There was American capeshit long before Supes and the Bat. However, both of them were created by the Kikes, and basically ruined comics there afterwards with help of Communists thanks to the creation of the Comics Code Authority.
>Capitalist mega-corps make things to make money.
No, companies exist to provide a good or service for the public to use. They don't make money, they earn it.
>If comics made no money they wouldn't do it.
Control, because, when you can control the media, you control public perception.
>Why would they make propaganda for a for a form of literature that a small portion of people read.
Because the moment you give the opposition a means to have a voice, no matter how small, someone will listen, and that person talks to people who talk to people who talk to people, etc. And, it's much less about having the loudest, and more about making sure that you're the only voice in town.
>They clearly are making enough money if they still making comics
No, companies still produce products even when running at a deficit. It's just that they pay yesterdays bills with money that isn't suppose to arrive until tomorrow. And, that's on top of the fact that companies can support their divisions that are losing money with the profit that is coming in from their divisions that are making money.
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000000 No.16880711
>>16879835
>caring about any nugame made by the perpetually impotent/marxists at Bethesda
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8b8959 No.16880716
>>16880380
>He never read The Fall of Reach
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16f9c0 No.16880727
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a4758c No.16880731
nuDoom is the gayest shit.
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9b1ba5 No.16880736
>>16880731
If only doomguy was a real woman and not a tranny if they actually try to do that for real.
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afde84 No.16880737
>>16880069
Technically that's true, but it doesn't have to be remotely focused on because humans have a certain thing called suspension of disbelief for fiction
Its powerful enough to disregard plenty of shit when its clearly not that important, (at least implied by the authors not to be)
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a4758c No.16880753
>>16880736
The female variant of Doomguy is Crash from Quake 3. Tbh I'd rather see Hunter get her own game instead.
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39373a No.16880756
>>16880731
>>16880736
Might make for an okay coop character idea at least. Something like having crash, black doomguy, and the vengeful spirit of his pet rabbit fighting together would be neat.
>>16880735
>not just fighting demons, but fighting their unholy offspring with humans
>getting to see exactly how much degeneracy it takes to make God essentially start over
>having to get back to the ark within a certain time ala Fallout 1
I'd play that.
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39373a No.16880761
>>16880756
oh wait, he was called phobos- wasn't he?
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a4758c No.16880763
>>16880761
Phobos, Phobosguy. Doomguy was just called Doom in Quake 3 IIRC.
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8859f5 No.16880768
>>16880753
isnt this the girl from the "Dragostea din tei" video?
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c1a8a7 No.16880796
>>16880622
The more explicitly Christian the game might be, the less they can sell it to jews, muslims, and China. The entire reason why they are doing "makyrs" is so they can bring in angel not-angel iconography without going too far. Including staving off complaints from Christians deserved or otherwise.
Seeing how much and far back backlash exists for "subverting expections", from Star Wars, to Diablo, kind of curious as to how that might have that influenced id to not go full current year with the plot.
>>16880508
That's because they are satanists.
>>16880658
Which is why starting to come around that it is okay that they aren't calling him Doomguy anymore. It's not Doom, it's not Doomguy. Just a Doom influenced Halo.
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4688e0 No.16880810
>>16880796
>Just a Doom influenced Halo.
Halo is about fighting a losing war across the sprawling landscapes of ruined cities and dead civilizations. It is nothing like Doom. Speaking of which, what about Marathon? I've yet to play that, but I remember people summing it up as "Doom for Mac".
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a4758c No.16880813
>>16880810
It's 2.5D Halo for Mac.
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b45971 No.16880817
>>16880810
Marathon has some cool DEEPEST LORE and some interesting weapons, though it's not quite on par with Doom. Marathon Infinity is borderline experimental and worth a playthrough for its batshit nonsense at least once.
Only way you can play Marathon on PC is through the Aleph One sourceport, which you can download alongside the game for free in one package. Make sure you apply the increased FOV fix, because the default FOV is motion sickness-inducing: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Marathon#Field_of_view_.28FOV.29
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bb4cf1 No.16880824
>>16880587
>literal plot armor
lmao
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9146cb No.16880828
>>16880810
Marathon is doom with rocket jumping and platforming despite having no jump button.
Its worth a try.
>>16880817
>Marathon Infinity is borderline experimental and worth a playthrough for its batshit nonsense at least once.
Oh man, it had some ideas, but not many great ones.
I can't help but expect 343 to try and rip off Marathon Infinity for Halo Infinite and be shocked when it turns out bad.
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d6d543 No.16880829
>>16880160
>Worst game in the series is now a sequel to the best game in the series.
Doom 3 still exists
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d82c9a No.16880842
>>16880525
>>16880586
>>16880588
>>16880603
Did any of you fags like 2016's deathmatch? I wouldn't want a sequel of that.
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efad0d No.16880850
>>16880731
Theres nothing wrong with a pair of well toned glutes anon. A strong muscular ass is healthy and manly as fuck and if you think its gay to have an ass like that, then you may just have the gay, anon.
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e2fab3 No.16880857
>>16880615
So essentially he has wizard powers strong enough to purge hell
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c1a8a7 No.16880885
>>16880810
>the sprawling landscapes of ruined cities and dead civilizations
Called it Doom influenced Halo for a reason anon.
>nothing like Doom.
Which is a major complaint about nuDoom.
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efad0d No.16880894
>>16880885
How the fuck is Doomguy going to win against an ENTIRE PLANET full of demons? In fact how did he whup the shit out of hell?
I know the odds are always stacked against him but this is fucked.
>>16880698
>Born after 2000
>2001 baby
I bet you didn't even 9/11. That doesnt make you a real american in my book.
You better stop embarrasing yourself and start lurking or else I will take the place of your dad, come over to your house and give you a spanking you fucking child.
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b936c3 No.16880895
>>16880885
>First two pics
Almost thought that was art for Sonic '06.
>Third pic
Okay, yeah, they're ripping off Halo. But, it's not even Bungie's Halo that their ripping off by the looks of it. It looks more like they're ripping off 343's Halo.
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a2875c No.16880902
>>16880761
Phobos in Quake 3 was not Doomguy but he is part of Doom's story
from wiki:
An experienced veteran, he led the invasion of the demon-haunted tunnels of Phobos. There, he was betrayed by superiors who thought they could learn more from watching him die than by studying his reports.
A courageous, determined soldier, used to command, Phobos has got that "officer and a gentleman" esprit d'corps. Unfortunately, his last mission taught him about betrayal and sabotage. He trusts no one and nothing except his training.
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39373a No.16880904
>>16880902
Hence black doomguy.
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c41595 No.16881017
>>16881007
>Gmanlives
Nigger's been on the take since at least January, when he bragged on his channel about having been sent the first three levels by Bethesda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkAxD_DX2N8
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c41595 No.16881027
* https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=FkAxD_DX2N8
Also if you watch that video, it's clear he signed a contract, because he mentions not being able to really talk about the game. Clearly he's not going to be allowed to dispairage it.
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66e855 No.16881038
>>16880612
>Doom enteral somehow now based on Gnosticism because God is called Father in the doom universe
>christians never reference god as a father
>Downplaying Doom guy becoming a Messiah
figure after being blessed by literally god
>Not to mention biblical references like Lucifer name gets references in lore in doom 216
So-called anti-woke journalists just as dumb as regular game journalists? Not saying doom a Christian game but enteral and 2016 clearly having fun with that meme.
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eab5d1 No.16881045
>>>/v/16881007
>cuckchan wojack
go home faggot
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eab5d1 No.16881046
>>>/v/16881027
>not embedding
>not downloading and uploading as a webm
you too
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66e855 No.16881048
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16880842
>Did any of you fags like 2016's deathmatch? I wouldn't want a sequel of that.
I’m with youZ The maps were good but glory kills mechanics don’t translate with death-match. Bad multiplayer games can be saved by good maps. Look at Medal of Honor 2010 and black ops 2.
>>16879871
>Especially in [CURRENT YEAR] with shit like Castlevania becoming anti-religion.
Biblical devil gets reference in Doom 2016 with Lucifer bane. I doubt Doom would be used fedora topping like Netflix Castlevania or political shit like Wolfenstein any time soon. All
The flaws of new Doom. It at least stating apolitical. A better question would Quake reboot be used for political pandering shit?
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479bff No.16881068
>>16881048
Medal of Honor 2010 multiplayer was ok as it was Bad Company 2 lite.
Black Ops 2 however is horrendous no matter the map, which will inevitably be Nuketown either you want it or not.
Every single CoD shat out by Treyarch has to have that cancerous map.
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54cca3 No.16881072
Generally speaking, from what I've seen the art looks a lot cleaner and more appealing than NuDoom. Looks like there may be a bit more actual level design involved too. Hopefully it will be worth the pirate. What's the turnover for big-name Denuvo games these days anyway?
Also does anyone know if it will support Vulkan like the other one did? I've got a decent setup now, but I remember that shit worked some magic and I was able to run 2016 on my fucking 7770 with a pretty stable framerate.
>>16880842
Yeah but if the reason they're going with (even if it's not the real reason at all) is that the multiplayer felt disconnected, it would be piss-easy to implement a proper Doom deathmatch. Designing a basic arena shooter out of a single-player game is what nearly every game did since Doom started that shit. In many games- even the famous examples, multiplayer was an afterthought. I can't think of any games that utilize the arena design where people feel it's a total waste or detriment to the overall package.
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ec46e2 No.16881108
>>16881099
>pointing out the cuckchan meme and telling you to make a webm is defending a jewtube faggot
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10529a No.16881115
>>16880810
I've been playing Marathon 1 recently. So far, the levels are a lot more knotted and labyrinthine, the atmosphere is nice and weird and spooky, the lore is deep and the combat is decidedly more primitive. Fixed save points and health stations scattered around the maps that always heal you to full. Really floaty movement that lets you skip some bullshit switch puzzles. Worth playing if you're a Bungie nerd or you're a classic FPS fan tired of playing doom mods forever.
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158e13 No.16881130
>>16881116
>I am intimately familiar with how cuckchan's wojak works
>therefore you are a shill
Are you retarded?
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aec184 No.16881144
>>16880474
That's funny considering NuDoom is just Brutal Doom 2, something he has been incredibly salty about ever since its closed-doors Quakecon reveal.
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c25fe8 No.16881173
>Church of the Meme slayer
BUT WHY
WHY DOES EVERY GODDAMN FPS PROTAGONIST NEED TO BE LE EPIC JESUS 2
YES HALF LIFE 2 DID IT BUT THEY DID IT FIRST WHICH IS WHY IT WAS FINE BUT EVEN THEN IT WAS A BLATANTLY DUMB CHOICE THAT TO THIS DAY IS STILL CITED BY IT'S DETRACTORS
Doomguy was always just the lucky lone survivor of like a squad of five right? Gordon Freeman wasn't the only person who was a pro in Half Life 1, Barney, Adrian, and the two girl scientists all did well and survived. In fact it's implied the only reason most of them did was because of their suits and abilities. This is why Doom 3 WAS A HORROR GAME maybe not survival horror but Doom guy was vulnerable damn it. Even good games like Scp need some meme explanation like "HURR DURR QUANTUM IMMORTALITY SPIRAL."
There's no underdogs anymore, no more vulnerability, or sensation of earning a victory. It's all just playing God. The worst part is this design choice was taken from the shitty "Rip and Tear" meme from that shit tie in comic, and Bethesda took it seriously, imagine if Bill fucking Wilson becomes a major character in the new Batman movie because studio execs actually think people think the Plane Scene is unironic kino beloved by cinephiles and not mocked because the dialogue was awful.
Now imagine the entire film community coming to it's defense and actually taking Bill Wilson as a serious beloved character and went to see the sequel in droves so they can all clap like retards when he and Bane meet and Bane winks at the fucking screen as he says "For you."
That's Nu-Doom.
Fuck you Tood.
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33a84c No.16881199
I've realized that since 2016 I have not seen a single arguement in favor of Doom 2016, or in this case eternal, besides the vaguest of DUDE BRO IT'S AWESOME IT'S BADASS IT'S LEGENDARY AF.
I really, really want to understand why faggots outside this board really like 2016 and will no doubt worship this one.
Oh well, I guess the pirate will have to wait until the inevitable denuvo removal.
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586163 No.16881265
>>16881199
>asks why anyone would like to play nudoom
>talks about pirating it after denuvo is cracked in the same post
Why do people do this? If you don't like a game then don't waste your time with it. You can't call a game trash and then be desperate for a pirated copy. I don't care if the game is arse or actually good, just be consistent.
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33a84c No.16881273
>>16881265
Gotta give it a fair try before writing it off as complete shit.
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586163 No.16881282
>>16881273
Why? Because it has the Doom logo slapped onto it? Would you eat my shit if I put the Doom logo on a turd? You already know the previous game was trash so why do you expect this one to be any different? It just seems like such a dumb attitude to have, the previous game sucked and this will probably be complete bullshit with how artificially and totally organically this new dumpster fire is hyped, so I gotta play it! Just why?
There's an ocean of games out there, great shooters that most people have never heard of, untold treasures in Doom wads and mods. Yet you are going to choose to spend your time with a game you're probably going to hate and aren't that into going in? When there are enough quality games around to last you a lifetime? Either you're really hyped up for Doom Eternity and just don't want to admit it, or you're some kind of moron and I'm not sure which is worse.
I'm not going to sully my HDD with some kind of console shooter that's likely bloated as fuck in filesize and not very good just because it has the Doom branding, but if I did I wouldn't try to cover it up by acting all tsundere. Omg, this game will be so shit, I can't wait to play it. Fuck you Bethesda, pls jizz in my face. That's shit is just stupid.
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8c3932 No.16881306
>>16881282
I'll never understand why retards like you can't fathom why somebody should form their own opinion from their own experiences instead of just buying into the echo chamber and making sure to LISTEN and BELIEVE.
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641e83 No.16881307
>>16881173
>WHY DOES EVERY GODDAMN FPS PROTAGONIST NEED TO BE LE EPIC JESUS 2
Can you give me some statics that show the majority of FPS protagonists are Le Epic Jesus 2?
>mocked because the dialogue was awful
To be honest, I don't see how the dialogue is awful
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33a84c No.16881308
>>16881282
These "undecided" games act as a nice break. If it's good, then it's an unexpected surprise. If it's bad, then it makes the next, better game in my backlog better by comparison.
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d6d543 No.16881338
I enjoyed 2016 it just had no replayability whatsoever. Since upgardes seem to be persistent and the game has master levels Eternal already looks like it's gonna be better. I'll play it and I'll probably enjoy it for what it is.
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a0d42d No.16881339
>caring about story
>on fucking doom
Didn't Big Man Carmack himself said that story in vidya is like pron, it's just spice to gameplay?
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56ca27 No.16881341
>>16880842
I never played 2016 so I wouldn't know, but the reason it pisses me off is due to their reasoning that deathmatch is "too old", I bet they will tack on a battle royale mode later on because they are fucking trash.
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60ba45 No.16881342
>>16881339
Yeah, but I actually like some story in my porn.
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33a84c No.16881347
>>16881342
Might I know what type of stories, just out of curiosity?
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3afa0d No.16881353
>>16881199
>I've realized that since 2016 I have not seen a single arguement in favor of Doom 2016
The reason I downloaded the first one is because I played the free Demo on Steam and liked it. I had a very "oh well" feeling about the "Demonic Lockdown" sections, deciding that while they weren't very Doom-like, that doesn't mean they weren't fun. And then there was a section where you go outside in the demo and from what I recall there enemies who were placed organically and not spawning at random. In any case, I remember walking along the map and seeing enemies just standing there already, which is what I wanted from Doom, so I was happy
Then I got to the full game, and I actually enjoyed it up until halfway through. I like the enemy AI patterns and I like how most enemy encounters require lots of player movement. I'm the kind of guy who vastly prefers Quake 1 over Doom, so FPS games where you have the jump around and shoot rockets at enemies from various different heights in the span of a minute really appeal to me. But later on, the level design just got really lazy and there were no more organic encounters, and the hordes just started getting terribly designed. That's when it started having the exact same problems as Shadow Warrior 2013, where the game's idea of difficulty is to take a mini-boss from a previous level and then just start throwing a bunch of them in there for every encounter.
OK, CAN YOU TAKE ON 5 HELLKNIGHTS, A SUMMONER, AND 4 REVENANTS?
The first Doom games didn't just constantly overwhelm you with powerful enemies, it gave you hordes of weaker enemies and then the more powerful enemies were properly spaced out. Walking through Doom 2016's corridors, knowing that I'm invariably going to have to fight some Summoners/Mancubi/Hell Knights every 10 minutes is tiring, and I only ever feel like playing the game one encounter at a time because of it.
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3feeaa No.16881357
>>16880551
>Does Vegeta throwing a chimper-tantrum count of "severe emotional trauma"?
Sort of. He pushes himself so far he basically risks his life and nearly dies in the middle of nowhere, and loses his shit because he thinks his pride got him killed, so he rages at himself for not being as strong as Goku, for being weak, and basically has a tantrum and gives up, and that "letting go" is what triggers his ascension.
>>16880553
>Why does he die in the first game and keep fighting, then?
Where do you go when you die, anon?
To hell.
>>16881342
>Yeah, but I actually like some story in my porn.
Me too. I actually got bored of video porn and started reading stuff at literotica. There's a lot of garbage out there but you find some authors who really know there stuff.
I remember one that was basically a novel about a detective tracking a succubus. It was great.
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c5514e No.16881363
>>16880842
It wasn't great at launch but it got better once they rebooted it (the DLCs became free, new progression system that rewards people for playing instead of the lootbox crap). The multiplayer was made by the same subcontractor who made the multiplayer of Halo 4.
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c5514e No.16881364
>>16880850
Nice but I'd rather see his BFG if you know what I mean.
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ba2b36 No.16881367
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c5514e No.16881372
>>16880525
I bet that the real reason is that Certain Affinity was too busy delivering content for other big games.
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c5514e No.16881385
>>16881007
I wasn't expecting Gmanlives to actually defend those shitty changes. Doom doesn't need sprint/dash and out-of-character cutscenes.
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4c07d7 No.16881432
>>16881199
Well I've seen people saying it's a character action game mixed with an FPS. That in itself is a good selling point and has me tempted to at least pirate the game. That said I was playing through NuDoom earlier, and it plays more like a Halo game than it does a DOOM game. If NuDoom 2 fixes the issues NuDoom had, then I'm fine with it as its own thing. However I also thought RAGE 2 looked like Halo with super powers, and after playing the Psychic WAD, I was hoping to have an actual game like that, but instead what I got was an empty sandbox, boring guns, barely any powers and just a subpar experience in general. With NuDoom 2, I'm not sure what to expect since the "hype" is at a maximum high, however they pulled the same shit with RAGE 2. I'll probably give it a pirate or use the upcoming corona cash rather than buying it with my own cash.
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4c07d7 No.16881433
>>16881339
The fuck are you talking about? Playing with Fire 2 had a great story.
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667a07 No.16881490
>>16880622
Angels & demons aren't really described in the Christian bible though. Most interpretations of demons come from the 'Ars Goetia'. While angels were described in 'De Coelesti Hierarchia'/'On the Celestial Hierarchy'.
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2b6369 No.16881500
>Mark shoa'd some posts in this thread
OK
>>16881432
I didn't like NuDoom very much, but I'm a huge sucker for FPS games that have you moving and jumping a lot, so that might be a redeeming feature for Eternal, considering the "grappling hook" they added.
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ec2c4c No.16881509
>>16880548
>have opinion
>some guy makes video essay formulating stuff you were already thinking
>this is bad because….
>see video essay
>agree yourself and can't think any major counter-point for it
>you can't use is because…..
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6f5c36 No.16881518
>>16880474
>Caring about the opinions of Brutal Doom dev
nothing of value here
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5b5262 No.16881693
>>16879835
Not going to like. I like doom in 16 bit art style.
>>16879841
I hate to think what he will look like in the Disney live action remake.
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5b5262 No.16881696
>>16881068
>Medal of Honor 2010 multiplayer was ok as it was Bad Company 2 lite
Pretty much this. I have a feeling bad company 3 will be the next big monkey paw wish.
>>16881509
>It’s okay to post e-celebs Faggoty when I do it.
>>16881339
Implying doom eternal doesn’t have the best plot of any modern ID titles?
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479bff No.16881719
>>16881696
Bad Company 1/2 were made by the DICE division that made Modern Combat.
They were then integrated into the mainline Battlefield games after those and just like most OG DICE devs they're gone now.
Bad Company 3 would not only be shit but a pozzfest as well.
>Doom
>Plot
Fuckoff with that shit, Doom had aesthetics and scifi concepts, nobody ever gave a shit about lore outside easter eggs.
But of course they have to pander to the Soulscuck redditors.
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39373a No.16881720
>>16881038
Doesn't seem to be Billy this time however. I kinda thought all the other people left OAG to be honest.
>>16881072
As far as I can tell, this one might be Vulkan-only.
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5d47b0 No.16881797
>>16881719
>Bad Company 3 would not only be shit but a pozzfest as well.
Modern combat alone had a better campaign than 3 and 4. Funny because to think about a battlefield 1 don’t seem pozzed compared to battlefield Vagina.
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5d47b0 No.16881799
>>16881500
>>16879993
>doomguy ascended due to being very fucking angry.
Didn’t this happen in that doom comic?
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d607f0 No.16881812
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33a84c No.16881856
>>16881812
If you're going to put sourceports as a drawback then you might as well call Thief shit too. Or Duke/Quake since he's so keen on waving them around.And that's ignoring how Brutal doom is apparently a requirement for Yahtzee.
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4688e0 No.16881859
>>16881812
None of his statements feel genuine. It's almost like he just looked up a series of other reviews of the original Doom, took the most common points, and then strung them all together. And, all the actual "gameplay" comments made can be derived from just playing the shareware release and not the full game.
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479bff No.16881863
>>16881797
Battlefield games shouldn't have a campaign in the first place, but
>Consolefags
Happened and instead of eternally fun bot wars we get pimping hot trash.
>battlefield 1 don’t seem pozzed as Battlefield Vagina
It's just as bad
>Nigger on the cover
>Art design all over the place
>Game design not like WWI at all like Screaming Steel or Verdun
>Niggers in general
>Women DLC when only about 100 of them saw combat for about 2 days
DICE is EA at this point
>>16881812
14 year old me used to think he was funny
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539068 No.16882025
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edc004 No.16882096
>>16882090
>Defending wojak
Get out of here, Cuckchan. No one wants you.
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81a45b No.16882112
>>16882025
remind me why is everyone going apeshit over the new doom? the last doom game was absolute garbage and no one liked it, so why do people like this one? did they remake the originals?
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55085b No.16882124
>>16882112
>remind me why is everyone going apeshit over the new doom?
big release for normalfags to be excited for becasue pete hines said so and if you're not excited you're a loser doomer, boomer
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8c147e No.16882127
>>16882112
Retarded normalfags who never played DooM but liked the rip and tear meme loved it, anon.
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81a45b No.16882133
>>16882125
what? what the fuck are you talking about? doom 2016 was universally hated by anyone who wasn't a fucking redditor or resetera, and those guys like things that whites hate.
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c41595 No.16882137
>>16882125
>My (((Fellow whites))) loved the reboot
Kike get out.
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aec184 No.16882149
>>16882125
A couple of people in id wrote a really dumb story for Doom, which Carmack thankfully convinced them to throw out, because it was stupid bullshit that would have dragged the game down. And coding is an art, fag.
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55085b No.16882183
>>16882127
Epic doot guy will milk and meme glory holes with his glory fists getting sick nasty glory kills to glory heal
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55085b No.16882186
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3feeaa No.16882199
Heartwarming message from the Animal Crossing art director about the Doom/ACNH art.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/03/animal_crossing_new_horizons_director_thrilled_by_the_isabelle_x_doom_slayer_artwork
can't archive since this is a hit and run mobile post
no bully
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2d5297 No.16882235
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5d47b0 No.16882285
>>16882121
Looks like a hybrid of multiple ancient written languages
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aec184 No.16882321
>>16882293
Romero is a great level designer. That doesn't make him a good writer.
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6b36f1 No.16882332
>>16880622
>Demons look like angels
But they don't.
Well they don't really have a "real shape" being spiritual but their default choices are often different.
In the Book of Revelations, Satan appears, and he's described as looking like a sort of Hydra-Dragon. Why? Apparently he changed shape because of the Pride inside of him, and now all his heads have crowns to represent his desire to become God.
Meanwhile Angels I forgot why Angels look like that sorry. I think it was something about the purpose they were given, but I forgot how exactly that was displayed. Like Thrones represent carrying God's knowledge because of the light inside of them or something? Whatever.
So canonically, Demons choose forms based on their own will, and Angels just look based on the purpose God gave them, which makes sense.
Moving on.
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641e83 No.16882342
>>16882285
Looks pretty arabic to me
Sentinels bear a superficial resemblance to crusaders, did crusaders write in arabic?
>>16882125
>Everyone knows that Doom cared tons about story and lore. Romero written tons of backstory behind Doom
Doesn't change the face that nuoom is shit and Doom guy should be a man instead of some tryhard superhuman
I bet all the Nuoom apologists and Nuoom EteANAL shills are from know your meme
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479bff No.16882359
>>16882293
Romero is currently raising his wifes sons and raising money fro Transfat charities.
Hes a faggot
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d9634a No.16882363
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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811376 No.16882373
>>16882332
>But they don't.
2 Corinthians 11:
"13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."
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064c80 No.16882705
>>16882342
>Nuoom EteANAL shills are from know your meme
>not calling it Doot: Forever
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7dd747 No.16882758
>>16880666
Even before they became outright propaganda, comics were basically a loss leader for the bigger corporation to make adaptations and merch based on the characters and stories introduced in the comics. It's a small enough industry that it was good for basically nothing but testing out concepts for other media. So they weren't paying attention when SJWs got in and tried to destroy it with their propaganda. All the suits know is that comics were only like 0.01% of their income to begin with. Now they're 0.000001%, and if they ask, the SJWs just tell them it's the same natural downturn, even though it accelerated immensely when they decided to sabotage the industry.
The people doing this openly brag about low sales and scaring away their old audience. They pretend they're catering to a new audience, but that audience doesn't exist, as evidenced by the sales.
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56ca27 No.16882765
>>>/v/16882749
>throwing a fit because nobody wants your degenerate wojak edits straight from cuckchan
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479bff No.16882778
>>16882749
>>16882774
>Facebook Frog
>Wojak
Get in the trash cuckchannel tranny, it's easy to filter your kind this way.
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4bdba6 No.16882783
>>16882778
Actually, you know what. If you like mods deleting shit they just don't like, maybe 4/v/ is more up your alley.
Rejecting "wojak" purely on the basis that he's popular on 4chan right now makes you a retard.
Fit in harder, newfag. I can tell you weren't around in 2015 or 2016.
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33a84c No.16882799
So to take this thread in a better direction, what game do you anons think is Doom but in "true" 3D? Quake always felt like it was missing something.
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5a55ae No.16882815
>>16882799
none and I dont see a big deal about it because there's no need to have a doom in 3d
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233706 No.16882817
>>16882799
Well, Doom is essentially a power fantasy about mowing down zombies with your shotgun and darting across the level. Run n' gun. Quake has overall the same structure as Doom, but the combat is obviously a bit more strategic. The enemies have higher amount of health, they move around a lot more, and instead of having a priority on quantity they have a priority on placement and variation.
I don't know how well actual Doom-like run n'gun mowing would translate to true 3D. A lot of the appeal for Doom comes from the fact that you can open a door, and then blast your shotgun at 4 different enemies in one shot. Put actual verticality in there and you have a real mess.
And an /agdg/ anon made a 3D Doom clone, called Hellbreaker. It's okay, feels kind of stiff but I think it managed to pull off Doom's run n' gun style pretty well.
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479bff No.16882819
>>16882783
>I can tell you weren't around in 2015 or 2016.
I was here in October 2014 crossposting giganigger, fuckoff back to your goddamned shithole.
>>16882799
Dusk is the only thing that comes close even if it's heavily influenced by Quake
>Quake always felt like it was missing something
The enemy quantity and the more constrained level design
Before Dusk I'd say Serious Sam
Always felt like Doom is closer to a SHMUP in it's design.
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282337 No.16882830
>>16882794
Stop being a whiny little cunt you faggot
>>16882799
There aren't really any other games quite like Doom in 3D, but there are great true 3D FPS games.
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b28a94 No.16882833
>>16882799
>Well, Doom is essentially a power fantasy about mowing down zombies with your shotgun and darting across the level.
wat
Doom is hardly a power fantasy, have you played Thy Flesh Consumed on UV? It kicks your ass every chance it gets.
Saints Row 4 is a power fantasy.
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282337 No.16882834
>>16882819
>>16882831
Jesus christ shut the fuck up already
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b28a94 No.16882839
>>16882831
>>16882835
ok retard
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479bff No.16882850
>>16882835
>>16882840
Eat shit and die
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667a07 No.16882882
>>16880666
DC is owned by WB which is now owned by AT&T. Marvel is owned by Disney & in the early 2000s had to sell IP rights to various studios to avoid bankruptcy. Comics have not made money for decades. Licensing them out to various studios to create stuff out of them does. The comic divisions were only barely kept alive by niche fans & their parent companies. But that's changed as they pandered more to people outside their niche audience. So rumors are constantly swirling parent companies will shut down these divisions to trim the fat.
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282337 No.16882905
>>16882840
>>16882849
>>16882854
Made this for you
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8b626f No.16882951
>>16882882
>DC is owned by WB which is now owned by AT&T
That explains why Mortal Kombat and DC went to shit. The CEO of AT&T is literally an evil CEO. Look it up.
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d6d543 No.16883016
So I played for about an hour and it's alright for someone not expecting to play Doom. Glory kills are faster, you can even turn down the pickups brightness which makes it a lot more tolerable since they were so much in your face than last time. Weapons do a lot more damage and they often kill enemies without even getting the chance to glory kill them. The addition of weak parts on enemies is great and you find enemies organically a lot more throughout the levels but battle arenas are still in, although they seem a lot more varied than last time in terms of layouts.
The game does look like shit though, I like the art direction more but it seems like AA is forced on and everything looks blurry as hell, it also runs like shit and I imagine denuvo isn't helping matters
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bac8de No.16883025
>>16882951
Because all evil ceo are jewish….NO Wait!
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a8f221 No.16883143
>>16883025
Well it's beyond just being Jewish, the guy flat out supports black lives matter and the death of America
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6b36f1 No.16883157
>>16882373
>Literally only taking his former form to mislead people.
I'd say his appearance on Revelations curbs it.
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665b8d No.16883225
>>16881693
>I hate to think what he will look like in the Disney live action remake.
He would be retconed from an alien to a non binary furry nigger.
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d82c9a No.16883228
>>16883016
>Doom 2016 but better
Best we could have hoped for, thanks for the review.
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201b38 No.16883236
>>16883016
Is it now filled with those horizontal jumping poles and climbing walls?
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d6d543 No.16883262
>>16883236
Sort of. Climbing walls are used to either get to secrets or to advance to another area. Secrets is… fine I guess but halting my progress with a half assed gimmick isn't. It offers nothing to the game to have those walls in front of me so I can progress instead of a bridge or something. I wonder why the fuck it made it into the game in the first place.
Jumping poles on the other hand seem to be mostly used as another tool offered in battle arenas or to get to secrets and they flow well with the gameplay. I don't mind them.
But yes there's been a decent amount of them so far. Mostly monkey bars.
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5d47b0 No.16883273
>>16883225
>He would be retconed from an alien to a non binary furry nigger
Sounds believable considering safe space and snowflake from marvel.
>>16882799
>Quake always felt like it was missing something.
I want quake to be Lovecraftian again.
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667a07 No.16883284
>>16882951
Well no Mortal Kombat is bad because Netherrealm is bad. Sure the higher ups may have tried to push wokeness agendas in the games but I'd say it's more just Ed Boone being an incompetent boomer.
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443015 No.16883289
>>16883262
Sounds like their replacement for box puzzles or ledge platforming.
I'm pretty sure there's some unintuitive route for secrets in most of those routs you're talking about.
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96b0fe No.16883321
>>16882778
That image is a fake. It's been debunked multiple times. It was a false flag to get people to stop using the edits there.
Many OC makers saw their OC included in it and were the first to call it out.
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e572b8 No.16883507
>Bethesda released Doom Eternal with Denuvo
>Forgot to put Denuvo in their Bethesda.net release
Absolute fucking KEK.
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15b32a No.16883513
>>16879835
Imagine doomguy fucking Tom Nook with a single hand around his entire waist
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8c147e No.16883520
>>16883507
Wait, again? Didn't they make that same mistake last time?
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80eb58 No.16883524
>>16883507
Piracy doesn't hurt sales, pretty sure that was intentional. DRM is just to fuck paying customers in the ass. This is just free advertising for their game.
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e572b8 No.16883536
>>16883520
They sure did. It's been confirmed by multiple cracking forums that they straight up released a Denuvo-free executable.
>>16883524
>This is just free advertising for their game.
Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars licensing Denuvo and having your engineers splice it into a game isn't "free" by any possible interpretation. This was clearly a colossal fuckup on their end. It was cut-and-dry incompetence.
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88bd71 No.16883544
>>16883536
Again, DRM is for paying customers and piracy doesn't equate to lost sales. If anything it propels the hype engine with people pirating it and then telling their friends about it, sharing stuff on the Internet and just making free advertising for the game unknowingly.
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eb98e0 No.16883550
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5d47b0 No.16883632
>>16883513
>Imagine doomguy fucking Tom Nook with a single hand around his entire waist
Pretty sure you describing a fan art.
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46dc4d No.16883634
>>16883550
>actually wanting to play Bethesda garbage
Why?
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8d2fd1 No.16883653
>>16883507
Just came by here to say that, check cs.rin.ru for a link or something.
It's constantly amazing how Bethesda keeps fucking up. It's a talent at this point.
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33a84c No.16883656
>>16883016
Does the game still spawn like 6 enemies maximum?
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05f98f No.16883675
>>16883016
To me Doom 2016 always felt more like Action Metroid Prime than a Doom game. Does it still retain that feel?
>>16883273
>I want quake to be Lovecraftian again.
Fuck yes. Episodes 2 and 4 of Quake remain some of my favourite atmosphere in an FPS. Seeing a proper descent from spess mehreens to lovecraftian horror could be so fucking good.
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df9a5d No.16883681
>>16883653
Maybe it's 4d chess since they keep doing it. Perhaps they just want people to make bethesda accounts.
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8a10ea No.16883701
>>16883507
Holy shit the sheer retardation of Bethesda is absolutely amazing also here the magnet if anyone is interested.
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7b5c75 No.16883709
>>16883701
>why hello there, why don't you try out this free new hot game and tell your normalcattle friends how great it is? You want to bankrupt Bethesda, right? Remember that every single copy downloaded is a lost sale, so seed it forever and promote it all over the place.
>I want you to play it all week long, stream it, talk about it, upload gameplay of it and share it
>and when a new patch is released and you just can't wait to get it, then maybe you might even buy it haha
>it's such a bad game you might spend an entire month with it while you're hiding from Corona-chan, playing levels over and over again and hating every moment of it
>you know better than to give Bethesda your zogbux, you instead want to give them your time which is even more valuable useless, what a bunch of losers
>and when you finally put the down after 100%'ing it then you can just sigh and talk even more about how terrible the was, so terrible in fact that you simply must get the sequel as quickly as possible so you can find out just how terrible that is too
>you could have fallen for the clever ruse to spend your time on a quality game which was worth the money instead, but you're just too clever for that, you beat the system by pirating this shitheap, clogging a great section of your HDD with it
>so please smirk and laugh with me a little, we're going to btfo Bethesda by torrenting their crappy games, isn't it hilarious how ingenious it all is? Mwahaha, I bet they're crying, seeing us play their awful games for free 😂
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92e71e No.16883723
>>16883709
Todd, I'm going to play your game and share it with friends who had some interest in it, and none of us are going to pay for it. And we'll enjoy it more that way.
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48a51e No.16883725
Genuinely having a blast with Doom Eternal. Compared to 2016 it is easily way faster paced and the versatility is through the roof in terms of weapons, upgrades, and movement mechanics. Still haven't hit the grappling hook and I'm already pressing like 10 keys on my keyboard. Very manageable feel though.
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4283c2 No.16883764
>>16883507
>implying it wasn't on purpose so people buy it for 100% directly from them
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48a51e No.16883784
>>16883748
Even if they dont want to support Bethesda because of the shit they've been pulling lately, financially supporting their GOOD venues will force them to focus on those venues instead of trying to pull shitty consumer practices. It's almost as if Anons have the power of demand and supply!
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80eb58 No.16883790
>>16883748
If they don't whine about nitpicky stuff then they can't justify pirating the game. Most anons are just cheapskates making up bullshit reasons to make it moral. Not that I advocate buying games from Bethesda nor do I think this game nor /v/'s taste in vidya is any good, but it's pretty clear where this stuff comes from.
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0ea78b No.16883796
>>16879835
I'm okay with this. Doomguy should be stayed just an angry human filled with rage. But it's okay.
It could be worse. Much more worse. Bethesda tier worse.
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d6d543 No.16883808
>>16883675
I'd say even more so now with all the powerups you get. Upgrades have been streamlined a lot and don't feel much like bloat anymore but something that you'd see in metroid.
>>16883656
I'm not too far into the game so I can't say but so far it's already more than 2016 although optimization has taken a dive (could just be denuvo) and I know the master levels spawn a shit ton of enemies, there's already one of them out.
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645c28 No.16883828
>>16883796
I can always be worse. And it can always be better. So why settle for shit?
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92e71e No.16883830
>>16883748
I only make really small exceptions for games with Denuvo like DMC5, I'm not purchasing this one even if I do like it for that principle alone.
I haven't played it but here's the deal, out of every modern shooter I still would rather play NuDoom over all of them. That being said that one still had a lot of issues that need to be improved, the most painful thing for me was how empty the levels felt in terms of enemies, 90% of the times demons just spawn in and there's very few moments where you see some walking around besides the regular fodder zombies, not enough destruction, look at F.E.A.R on how to do it right, basically after every chaotic encounter in NuDoom the environment looks almost identical to when you started, stuff like corpses de-spawning way too quickly and lack of environment feedback makes it feel like your actions barely had an impact even though you're fighting huge fucking demons, it sucks because the weapons actually do feel very powerful but shooting at anything else that isn't a demon does jack shit.
Boss battles sucked dick holy shit. And there's still the occasional Bethesda mark of quality, enemies getting stuck, quest objectives not working forcing a checkpoint reset, the fucking shitty checkpoint system.
Outside of the glory kills I think the overall gameplay of 2016 was fine, if you're wondering why people don't like them it's because they are way too frequent and way too beneficial, they can give you armor and health, they are also ammo efficient early on, as monsters still have around 1/4 of their health once they are in a "stagger" so it makes them all the more frequent. So ignoring them isn't really an option until you get some of the big guns.
Not to mention that you barely even need to worry about your supplies, be them health, armor or ammo, if you're low on health the next enemy you kill will drop a pinata of healing supplies so you just save up a fodder zombie or an imp for last just in case you run dry, if you need ammo just use your chainsaw that also gives you a free kill depending on how much ammo it has.
>Gameplay focused
<Adds third person cutscenes
<Gives Doomguy a voice
<All he does is spout "haha rip and tear haha huge guts reddit haha pls upboat we put meme in game"
No, they are still Bethesda and they are still fucking up, just because now they are trying to pander to me doesn't mean that I'm now going to suck their dick.
At least they are skippable now, but I really dislike what they are doing with Doomguy as a character, I'm fine with him becoming God's messenger of demonic death though.
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92e71e No.16883834
>>16883830
>need windows 10 in order to upgrade drivers in order to play
Well nevermind then, guess I won't play it.
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8c3932 No.16883855
Holy shit these faggot writers can't come up with anything better than this? They tried so hard to come up with something and all of this dialogue and worldbuilding is terrible, and they leaned so hard on the lolrandomxd memery it's grating to the mind.
Despite my gripes with 2016 I enjoyed it, and my fears of the devs shoving their heads up their asses with Eternal have come true. From my experience playing on Ultra Violence, they've made the prescribed gameplay loop the only option. I could play 2016 without having to rely on shitty canned animation kills for the most part, but they purposefully gimped the amount of ammo you can carry in Eternal to force you to constantly have to chainsaw enemeis. After max ammo upgrades you can only carry 24 shells. TWENTY FOUR SHELLS. That's 4 more shells than what you could carry at the start of the game in 2016, and after maxing your ammo in 2016 you could carry 60 shells. And the amount of ammo you can carry is criminally small across all of your weapons.
So what does that mean? That means that after using a weapon that you want to use in the situation you're in, you immediately run dry after which you're caught either using a weapon that is poorly equipped for whatever scenario you're in, or you're running away trying to find a walking ammo bag fodder demon to chainsaw for maybe a fourth of the max ammo you can carry for the weapon you need to replenish.
And why is it like this? Because that neckbeard fat faggot dev has made clear from all of the interviews he's done since Eternal was announced that he's entirely gamed out the way that he wants everyone to play the game, the faggoty little 'doom dance' he refers to the aforementioned gameplay loop. They've engineered the game into a laboratory refined spectacle endorphin producer where you're constantly running low on resources to constantly cause a scramble and put you in perpetual state of 'whew that was a close one.' Not to mentioned they've locked in almost all of the various enemy types to the one true method to defeat them, because if you aren't following the script all you're doing is wasting even more of what little ammo you have. I don't care for the stickybomb launcher mod for the combat shotgun, they actually made the combat shotgun really fun with the full auto mod and I'd prefer to use nothing but that, but that doesn't really matter. Because if you want to kill a spider demon, a mancubus, or a caco you better use a stickybomb otherwise you'll waste an entire gun's worth of ammo just trying to kill one of them.
Add in retarded gameplay decisions like sticky floors that stop you from moving more than a crawl or walking oh yeah that's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for in a fast paced shooter, a berserker pack button with that lame ass sword they were hyping, endless disjointed nonsense story that feels like everything is just randomly happening with no build from one event to another I'm sure you're meant to pour over all of the 'lore collectibles' if you want a damn thing to make any sense, at least in 2016 what little story was there made sense and other general foibles all I can say is wasted potential.
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f13fa9 No.16883945
Is there like a mod for Doom 2016 that removes the glory kill mechanic and adds in health packs?
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54cca3 No.16883963
>>16883945
It's not like that would fix anything. The game doesn't have proper levels. They're just a series of lock-down arenas which would be alright if the game had more interesting mechanics or was like Serious Sam where you fought a retarded amount of enemies at once. Even then, the enemy design is so bland and uninteresting that there's nothing really to make use of.
Speaking of shitty enemies, does anyone know if they fixed the Revenants?
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33a84c No.16883976
>>16883945
The weapons mod you could find lying around replaces glory kills with a buffed siphon grenade with a long cooldown.
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e6e549 No.16883978
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201b38 No.16883995
>>16883855
>After max ammo upgrades you can only carry 24 shells
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b45971 No.16884015
>>16883748
This, it's a major improvement:
>weak spot system improves weapon diversity and target prioritization
>much lower max ammo across the board, forces you to diversify weapon usage to make the most out of each chainsaw charge as it refills half of each weapon type, so you can't just spam Super Shotgun, RL and Siege Mode like you could in 16
>the speed boost of Blood Fueled now lets you go full SANIC compared to 16
>rune challenges are thankfully gone
>assault rifle scope is actually worth using
>super shotgun is no longer OP like in 16 and its grappling hook is cool as shit
>arena -> hallway -> arena structure is arena -> platforming segment -> arena now, which is at least more engaging
>Gauss Rifle/Ballista is no longer as broken
>Plasma Rifle is actually useful now, OP Stun Bomb has been repurposed as the Ice Bomb with a much larger cooldown
>dashing and monkeybars allow you to more consistently dodge melee enemies and projectiles
>heavy enemies will actually fuck your shit up and appear much more often
>new super-heavy enemies are great and add a lot to combat
>grenade is actually useful now that it falters enemies
>arenas have more variety through environmental hazards
>cutscenes are actually skippable now
>levels waste less of your time with aimless exploration of WALK FROM A TO B and focus more on the action
>revenants have their homing missiles back
>blood punch gives you an actually useful melee option
>more enemies will actually dodge your shit
>>16883995
That's a good thing. In 16 you had so much fucking max ammo that you could spend entire fights using nothing but the Rocket Launcher or the broken Super Shotgun. Now that your max ammo is so low you are forced to switch things up and make intelligent use of your Chainsaw to replenish ammo.
>>16883978
That one's way too tl;dr. This one is more to the point while being just as informative
https://critpoints.net/2020/03/15/doom-2016-review-guest-post-by-durandal/
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31a71f No.16884025
>>16884015
>gun juggling
>fun and engaging
Oh boy, just like every other generic shooter.
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f9317f No.16884026
>>16884015
>In 16 you had so much fucking max ammo that you could spend entire fights using nothing but the Rocket Launcher or the broken Super Shotgun. Now that your max ammo is so low you are forced to switch things up and make intelligent use of your Chainsaw to replenish ammo.
What game were you playing? Ammo was always low in the reboot, couldn't stick to any weapon to the point that the Chainsaw was a three use max deal that replenished ammo after killing a demon with it. Force selecting on a playstyle that hard, especially on a single player game is a sign of bad design in general. The original doom DID NOT need to do that because it didn't rely on enemies for ammo pickups, it was strewn across the level.
The whole game is flawed because their idea of getting the player to move around isn't because you need to dodge shots or deal with high priority targets, but because you need to move towards what you're about to kill in order to melee kill for extra ammo and resources, that's it.
The game significantly slows the fuck down because of this. This on top of the much lower walk speed.
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a1916b No.16884034
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b45971 No.16884035
>>16884026
>What game were you playing? Ammo was always low in the reboot, couldn't stick to any weapon to the point that the Chainsaw was a three use max deal that replenished ammo after killing a demon with it.
What game were you playing? Max ammo upgrades in 16 would increase your max ammo by 50/30% while also increasing your max chainsaw fuel capacity by one. When you fully upgraded max ammo, you'd end up with 60 shells, 30 rockets, 300 bullets, and seven (7) Chainsaw charges. You never really had to worry about ammo, especially once you factor the in-arena ammo items, and you could forget about the Chainsaw. Compare this to Eternal's ammo progression where instead of going 20/30/40/50/60 like in 16, it goes 16/18/20/22/24. Which makes sense, as you already have a weapon that can refill half of all your ammo types by killing enemies, and are now forced to think about ammo management and weapon switching. Sure, it is forced, but if it forces you to play in a more interesting playstyle as opposed to "hurr durr spam super shotgun and rockets" like in 16, what's the problem?
>Force selecting on a playstyle that hard, especially on a single player game is a sign of bad design in general
wat
Literally every single player action does this to some extent, the only exception really being sandbox games.
>The original doom DID NOT need to do that because it didn't rely on enemies for ammo pickups, it was strewn across the level.
What is shotgunners dropping shotguns on death
What is chaingunners dropping chainguns on death
>The whole game is flawed because their idea of getting the player to move around isn't because you need to dodge shots or deal with high priority targets, but because you need to move towards what you're about to kill in order to melee kill for extra ammo and resources, that's it.
And what is inherently wrong with this? Instead of the game arbitrarily telling you to move because of enemy attacks, it is arbitrarily telling you to move towards enemies for ammo?
>The game significantly slows the fuck down because of this. This on top of the much lower walk speed.
In terms of movement speed (if you're not factoring in the massive speed boost when Glory Killing with Blood Fueled equipped), probably, but Eternal has inarguably a higher required APM to play effectively than the originals.
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a7cf57 No.16884040
>>16884035
>dropping X on death
You seem to be missing the "relies on" part.
>arbitrarily telling you to move because of enemy attacks
Living is such an arbitrary thing isn't it.
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b45971 No.16884048
>>16884040
>Living is such an arbitrary thing isn't it.
You can't live if you can't dodge, and you can't live if you have no ammo. There being more unrealistic and abstract approaches to do the latter doesn't somehow make it worse.
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a7cf57 No.16884054
>>16884048
Except glory kills are clunky and unnatural, dodging danger is obvious.
Just because you can group things doesn't make something the same.
Its a crap mechanic that gets dry very quickly, a flaw reboot doom had in droves at least in 2016and i can't be fucked to play "better 2016"
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b45971 No.16884055
>>16884054
>Except glory kills are clunky and unnatural, dodging danger is obvious
Chainsawing enemies somehow turning them into ammo pinatas is unintuitive, sure, but something being unintuitive doesn't necessarily make it a bad mechanic.
>Its a crap mechanic that gets dry very quickly,
It actually makes you think about ammo, situational awareness where you have to leave behind or seek out fodder enemies to chainsaw, and it forces you to diversify weapon usage in order to make the most out of the ammo dropped by chainsaw kills. From an objective standpoint it increases the depth and engagement level of the game compared to 16.
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a7cf57 No.16884061
>>16884055
>but something being unintuitive doesn't necessarily make it a bad mechanic.
>necessarily
>it increases the depth and engagement level of the game compared to 16.
Not all depth means much, it doesn't take much thinking to run to a fodder to gain some ammo.
It might technically be an increase, but its not like reboot doom has a huge amount to take account of anyway.
Being better than a mediocrity can still end up being mediocre.
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8c147e No.16884085
>>16884055
Can you guys at least work from home, or do you still have to come in to office for your "influencer" job?
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bd1dc5 No.16884089
I think it's just people are upset that its not like the original doom games. Realistically I don't think you could get a good triple A game with mechanics just like the old days. Normies don't like it.
I feel like Doom Eternal is the best case scenario of a game that necessarily has to be different but is in a very unique way.
>>16884085
Just because he can articulate his thoughts well on why he likes the game doesn't make him a influencer.
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b45971 No.16884095
>>16884061
>it doesn't take much thinking to run to a fodder to gain some ammo
On Nightmare, you can't just spam Glory Kills or Chainsaws like that because enemies will often kill you right after it ends. If you do a Glory Kill near a Mancubus or Hell Knight, that's guaranteed damage.
The problem with having the player rely on ammo items is that it forces them to disengage from combat in order to scour the arena for ammo and slows the game down in its own way, which goes against nuDoom's whole push-forward combat idea. By tying resource management to combat, you are less reliant on memorizing ammo item placement in arenas to get by. Chainsawing enemies 'takes away control', yeah, but it's the same principle behind being unable to move while charging an (unupgraded) Siege Mode shot in nuDoom. You exchange situational awareness and mobility for damage/resources. If Glory Kills gave you no invincibility, then this dynamic would have been more obvious.
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33a84c No.16884096
>>16884089
>I think it's just people are upset that its not like the original doom games.
I don't mind that at all, it's just that 2016 really failed miserably in my opinion even as an arena shooter, the entire time playing it I would have much rather played Serious Sam instead.
It's the same with Eternal, I would not mind at all if it's very different from Doom since there's a fuckton of wads ready to scratch that itch, I just want a game that's good, not mediocre, not above average(where the average is utter shit), good.
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4688e0 No.16884097
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8c147e No.16884107
>>16884089
>uses normie
>we're totally not media influencers though, silly boys~
You deserve the rope.
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645c28 No.16884112
>>16884055
>Chainsawing enemies somehow turning them into ammo pinatas is unintuitive, sure,
stopped reading there, agreed
>it makes you think about ammo
How about you let me play the way I want to play instead of:
-enter arena
-start running around with an automatic weapon
-fire every hard hitting weapon at a damage sponge
-keep running circles around the arena until everything is dead
-walk through story exposition finding obvious "secrets" necessary to upgrade your character
-enter arena
I had fun with nuDoom ONCE when you entered hell and got the Railgun. That was it, everything up until that point was unwieldy or unsatisfactory and everything after that was a repeat of that fight.
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b612b0 No.16884116
>game has secrets
>they're all marked as ? on the map
Here's a bigger secret
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b45971 No.16884126
>>16884112
>How about you let me play the way I want to play
I don't get this line of thought
nuDoom didn't "force" people as much, and what happened was that people would just use one or two weapons for the whole game because hey, even though it's boring, it lets you win the game.
What Eternal forces you to do is get out of your comfort zone, make use of all mechanics presented to you, and actually use more than one weapon. Eternal is built around the presumption that switching weapons is fun, and if you don't like that, then I'll paraphrase Hugo and say: "go play another game".
What happens with games that don't force you to play their way is that people end up playing in some counter-intuitive and boring way which somehow still lets them win, and then they complain that the game is boring. It's like people using healing items in DMC and Bayonetta and then saying that the game is piss easy, even though the score ranking heavily discourages that.
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d6d543 No.16884191
>>16884089
I like eternal and you're still a faggot who uses reddit spacing.
The only thing that's killing my enjoyment of Eternal right now is how shit it runs. My pc isn't a beast but it isn't bad either. It shouldn't justify the game dropping below 60 on medium settings. It's probably denuvo that's causing it so piracy wins again.
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b841d4 No.16884212
>>16884191
You do realize the game comes with a non-Denuvo executable, right? I'm running the game with an almost 5 year old processor and DDR3 RAM, only the graphics card is relatively modern, game runs pretty consistently for me.
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d6d543 No.16884226
>>16884212
Steam version doesn't. So that serves me right I suppose. I'll probably have to download the nondenuvo exe
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b841d4 No.16884229
>>16884226
Its floating around on cs.rin.ru, shouldn't be hard to find, you still have to sign in with a bethesda account, you can skip it once you give it a shitty fake account by creating a shortcut and adding +com_skipSignInManager 1 onto the target
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33a84c No.16884230
>>16884191
Curious, have you tried the "instructions" in this anon's image >>16883653
Also holy fuck the torrent is slow as ass. Looks like I'm leaving it to download overnight.
I truly, truly hope the game is good.
>>16884226
Supposedly it's this exe, I got it off cs.rin
https://pleease don't uae link shorteners /tpl5to71izl9.html
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645c28 No.16884233
>>16884126
>I don't get this line of thought
then go watch a movie
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33a84c No.16884235
>>16884230
Whoops. Give me a minute to upload it to a mega for a faster DL.
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4688e0 No.16884241
>>16884126
>nuDoom didn't "force" people as much
Wasn't the entire game pretty much forcing the players to glory-kill their enemies or be punished for it?
>what happened was that people would just use one or two weapons for the whole game because hey, even though it's boring, it lets you win the game.
So, you're saying that those who were complaining about FPS games in the 2000's that restricted the player to two or three weapons are being hypocritical?
>What Eternal forces you to do is get out of your comfort zone, make use of all mechanics presented to you, and actually use more than one weapon.
That reminds me of when I played nuMedal of Honor. Long story short, like every other FPS game, the title gives you the option to switch weapons with those laying around on the ground during the campaign. HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO DO THAT!!! In each level, there is a friendly NPC who is able to provide ammo for the player if you run out for your starter guns. If both of your main weapons were picked off the the corpses of the Taliban NPCs that you just killed, then you're shit out of luck when your out of ammo and the player is then resorted to having to use the pistol since that has infinite ammo because your friendly NPC buddy CANNOT help you resupply when you run out of THAT kind ammo.
Tell the player to get out of their "comfort zones" DOES NOT MEAN it automatically makes the gameplay better.
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33a84c No.16884265
>>16884235
#!gwlDWaZC!fOXq_S2PeZqbJxvucc24oHRKyCQvMOeOYaJihlF0-Nk
>>16884241
Actually Glory Kills aren't forced on you at all. The only time you'd actually need to use them is when you have the BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL. On lower difficulties it's to remove the shitty effect, on higher difficulties it's because the amount of health you get is inversely proportional to the amount of health you currently have, so you can go about playing the game and using it to top yourself off when you're low. It functioned better as a "fight ender" but it still wasn't a good idea considering how fights never seemed to actually start. Same thing with the music of 2016 I suppose, the music all felt like it was just the buildup to the actual soundtrack which never arrived.
I still maintain Overload's Smash Attack was infinitely more satisfying to use as a health siphon melee attack in an FPS.
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d6d543 No.16884303
>>16884265
Thanks, I might use that but I figured out what was causing the awful performance. The steam overlay. After I disabled it I got double the frames.
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21b2a5 No.16884304
>>16884265
>Actually Glory Kills aren't forced on you at all
on babby easy, maybe, but on higher difficulties yes they are
t. faggot who finished the game on ultra-violence
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15b32a No.16884323
Okay guys how about this: demon penis
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4688e0 No.16884329
>>16884323
Only if it's attached to a girl. Otherwise, it's gay.
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f5bde8 No.16884340
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b28a94 No.16884371
>>16884323
Come to >>>/demonp/ faggot. We're heavy stocked on that shit.
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1dfd1c No.16884376
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f5bde8 No.16884385
>>16884373
No I'm not surprised but calling them out when they try to pretend they aren't from cuckchan and/or Reddit is still funny to me.
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4688e0 No.16884393
>>16884376
>BFG gameplay
fucking normalfags, GET OUT!
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15b32a No.16884394
>>16884376
Doom 3 sucks more cock than I do lmao
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4b178a No.16884406
>>16879884
> love action Quake reboot
put in animu meidos for some harem hijinks and shit will sell gangbusters
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3aa6e5 No.16884427
so is the game any good or is it the same cineshit that 2016 had
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74f436 No.16884439
>>16884427
bethesda pozzed it
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641e83 No.16884456
>>16883790
>Most anons are just cheapskates making up bullshit reasons to make it moral
Copying and pasting isn't theft, that's all the justification needed buyfag.
>b-but those poor developers won't get their shekels
That doesn't magically make copying and pasting theft, sorry. Devs lose very little if any sales to piracy due to the fact that most anons who pirate games would otherwise never play them. Not that "losing sales" would make it immoral either.
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3aa6e5 No.16884459
>>16884439
so its more shit than 2016?
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b612b0 No.16884534
>>16884459
Marginally less shit than 2016
>>16884486
>people who worked their ass off
I was inclined to believe you until that line.
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96b0fe No.16884540
They're trying way too hard to insert as many doom memes as possible. It was bad enough that they stole the doot revenant meme which must be LOLSORANDOM for normalfags, but seeing their take on the huge guts meme and ensuing cutscene play out was unironically cringe-inducing.
> need redditslayer to have a PTSD flashback
> "guts…huge guts…kill them…kill them all…" in gravely speech
Bravo bethesdID. This is how memes die.
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80eb58 No.16884550
>>16884534
>I was inclined to believe you until that line.
The game devs certainly did work hard, the industry is a shit place to work in and they probably crunched hard during the final months or so. Not that they will see any of the money if you did spend some on the game, I already said I don't believe in the free market oogum boogum. That kind of argument only works when it's indie devs, since you're actually giving the people who worked on the game money directly and not the publisher.
Even so, games take a shitton of manpower and time to get made. If you just want to enjoy the fruits of that and not spend any money then more power to you, just don't pretend it's not worth anything to you. Time is a much bigger investment than money.
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641e83 No.16884632
>>16884486
> if they are shit games then you shouldn't play them to begin with.
I meant that most anons wouldn't buy a game even if it was good and that if piracy was made permanently impossible they would simply never play games that cost money again for the rest of their lives.
> don't make the argument that it's not worthwhile if you're fucking playing it, because you obviously think it is.
I never made that argument, you just erroneously assumed that the only reason someone wouldn't pay for a game is if it was bad. Do you think people who watch shows online via free websites only watch shows that are bad?
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545d49 No.16884657
I don't care much for Dood Eternal at the moment, as Doom 64 finally got a proper rerelease.
Is the new Doom 64 port any better than the old EX port?
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7ca3af No.16884671
>>16884540
This is a game made by it's marketing department, in case you just weren't aware.
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0e4d92 No.16884684
Is the OST more mindless screeching and djent brown note chugging?
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80eb58 No.16884686
>>16884657
Didn't Bethesda fuck up the port of the orignal Doom and censored it and shit? I'm just going to assume the old port of Domm 64 was better.
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3ae28b No.16884740
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74f436 No.16884816
>>16884802
Nobody:
Bethesda:
Let's add nonsensical cutscenes and tutorials. Also lets add a bunch of overcomplicated faggy mechanics and while we're here lets add parkour. THAT'S HOW DOOM WORKS RIGHT.
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b612b0 No.16884823
>start a bossfight
>pop up screen with the subtelty of porn site adware explains in detail in both text and animation on how to defeat the boss
MILK AND MEME, EPIC DOOT GOY DOOM SLAYER IS UNSTOPPABLE MANCHILD OF PURE RAGE AND DEMON KILLING HAHA HUGE GUTS
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ec46e2 No.16884824
>>16884816
>just make the old game again
>jewtube memes
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74f436 No.16884838
>>16884824
I just don't want to be forced into a particular play style.
>>16884826
I haven't gotten to that point in the game yet, but sure.
It's "fun", don't get me wrong, I just think 2016 was a better modernized DOOM.
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fff153 No.16884861
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wots the ost like?
is it jus more nu-thrash + electronic shet?
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282446 No.16884897
So did this leaked plot end up being true?
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201b38 No.16885099
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>>16884684
Man, I totally forgot about the music in nuDoom. I turned that shit off pretty much right away. It was the first more hardware demanding game I tried with my new computer and I wasn't sure if there was something wrong with my motherboard audio (because it sounded like the audio buffer was stuttering or something) or if it was part of the music.
They advertised the game with some nigger rap music, so I wouldn't expect any sort of quality from the soundtrack either.
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33a84c No.16885201
>>16884897
Perhaps. There's a collectible key type that's supposed to grant you access to the "Unmaker" so it's very possible this is related to D64.
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a7a8a2 No.16885242
Urdak feels like they tried to hard to make a "unique" Heaven, it doesn't feel like a Heaven for Doom
Hell in Doom works because, due to just being different shit mixed together and the lack of "lore", it can be both Actual Fucking Hell (considering the trash metal and DnD inspiration and that one mormon dev that didn't give a fuck about people complaining about satanism in videogames) and its own version with a variety of science fiction, technology, fantasy, the supernatural and more, hence why it's so easy to make custom content and mods for a setting like Doom's
A Heaven in Doom could share some similarities and differences to Hell, so it'd look like actual Heaven and not be afraid to namedrop Jesus and shit, but also have its own weird and unique elements, since a metal angel with an exposed brain and "Heaven tech" could've work if it was just a portion of it (because even the nuDoom Hell has some variety and shit like pentagrams and looking like Hell)
A wad like Eviternity may have a proper Heaven in Doom, but one could argue it's too simple and doesn't really parallel Hell in the series, so it's more in line with a "Heaven for Doom 64", since that game had a more gothic approach to Hell, lacking the FIREBLU's, flesh walls, metal wires and more
In fact, a Doom Heaven could even have its equivalents to iconic Hell objects like the evil eye candles or skull keys
So much could be done, Heaven should have been a thing in Doom for years
If the original id team made a Heaven in Doom, it'd probably be a combination of "Urdak" and Eviternity's Heaven and maybe more than that
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a7a8a2 No.16885245
>>16885242
Also, original id could have come up with shit like "Cyber Jesus" or "Angel Mastermind" as a name for the Kahn Maykr
They could have gone "Bayonetta/SMT in Doom" or something
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f3bfe6 No.16885398
>>16884740
>nuDoom has so much money they could pull off a Brutal Legend and actually get all the tracks Bobby Prince used as "inspiration" to have an amazing experience
>Instead makes noise because Bethesda are retards
Fuck everything.
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8b626f No.16885466
>>16885398
>We will never get a Brutal Legend like soundtrack in a game again
Mr. Shitface can go to hell, but he DID pick a good selection of songs. Perhaps it was the record guy he worked with rather than Schafer himself.
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c748c0 No.16885497
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a89394 No.16885557
>>16885245
Does anyone really want them to pull an SMT, though? I'd rather see them just make shit up than for Doom to start to feel (more) like it was developed by Japanese devs.
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7fdb2d No.16885621
>>16884823
>explains in detail in both text and animation on how to defeat the boss
Just like in the original Doom. Amirite fellow oldskool gaymerz?
>>16885099
>posting the edited trailer
Here's the real one. :^)
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5d47b0 No.16885854
>>16885242
>Doom Heaven could even have its equivalents to iconic Hell objects like the evil eye candles or skull keys
If I remember correctly the Doom books had holy weapons.
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158e13 No.16885857
>>16885854
The Doom books were also some of the worst-written dumpster fires I've ever read and this is coming from a no-taste piece of shit who likes Stephen King.
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a1916b No.16886014
>doom 1 and 2 are unlockable
>doom 1 you get by completing the game
>doom 2 requires a cheat code
>launching them crashes the game
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP DOOM
HOW
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