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>>16877078

I remember that there was some Anon who actually DID compile a list of all the Star Wars that came out and ranked from best to worst. However, I cannot find that image at the moment. Although, in general, you could just about pick up any of the games to the series and still have a rather decent experience (Not to mention all the mods that exist for other games).

So, what are you looking for?

>Lego

>Bioware

Stop playing that gay shit.

Play Dark Forces, then Jedi Knight, then Jedi Outcast, then Jedi Academy.

Alternatively, play Tie Fighter.

>>16877120

Here it is I think

Republic Commando is the only Jew Wars game worth playing, fuck you faggots. KOTOR sucks mad fucking dick, including 2.

>>16877126

>Jedi Knight isn't worth playing

Go away nigger

>>16877120

I have been playing through the Super Star Wars trilogy recently and I must say that I've been neglecting it for like a decade. I used to think of them as simply alright license platform games but they're more than that. They're balls to the wall hard, they have magnificent art and effects. Having played "retro" indie games on the PC for too long I had forgotten what the real deal felt like playing. The game is intense, there's no hint of the open world bullshit or metroid crap here, just a thrilling adventure, no bloat.

>>16877132

The prequels are just as good as the original trilogy tbh, they share pretty much all the same flaws and qualities across the board. In both trilogies the middle was the weakest. What Disney shat out was just a bad remake of the OT with current year crap stapled onto it, there was no creativity at all involved. I wish Lucas had gotten to tell the last part of the story, but now he can't even talk about it since he sold the outlines to Disney and they quickly dumped them into a fire.

>>16877126

nice filename

>>16877129

>>Jedi Knight isn't worth playing

No

>>16877139

>>16877140

No one is going to go back to play TIE Fighter in this day, it was good then but now it does not hold up.

>>16877152

Did everyone really change all their filenames? It's been more than a decade and I still haven't done it.

>>16877170

>it doesn't hold up

You never played it. You don't know.

>>16877191

Ok nigger. The jew wars nostalgia fagging has always been a circle jerk of unimaginable proportions and it's evident it will continue until the end of time.

>>16877251

Also:

>original trilogy: the annoying critter is faking it and is actually the legendary jedi luke was searching for

>prequels: the annoying critter is just an annoying critter

>>16877170

do you even hit backspace?

>>16877328

>>16877324

>he doesn't know jar jar was planned to be a secret master of the dark side of the force before the poor reception made Lucas change his plans

Lol, you probably don't even know Padme was really going to betray Anakin in RotS.

>>16877126

>State opinion as fact.

>No facts to back it up.

Influence lost: Kreia.

You failed to manipulate me.

NEED A REALLY BIG GUN?

>>16877694

You suck dick.

>>16877788 (checked)

We need to just gas Disney.

>>16877438

ESB is the most reddity one, it starts off with a bang and Yoda gets introduced, but Leia and Solo have pretty much nothing to do until they get to Cloud City. Besides the beginning and the end the film isn't as good as the previous one or the sequel.

RotJ starts with a proper planetary romance adventure when they go get Han and the conflict between Luke, Vader and Sheev is great. The horrifying man eating teddy bears who were inspired by the gooks in 'nam are underrated. It's often regarded as the worst of the OT on reddit and bigger platforms, but if you ask me it was the peak. What was rather basic in ANH had evolved into something grander and there was a great sense of finality to it all, it was a satisfying and memorable conclusion. I know the Ewoks might be a bit off putting and that the sequence when they surprise the imperial forces may seem silly. But it contained one of Lucas favorite themes, nature versus industry, and the cuddly appearance of the flesh eating Ewoks were to make them more likable and so that you cared when they got their shit kicked in by the imperials.

>>16877418

It was much more than that though, it was a smaller story put against the greater one. Which was the fall of a Republic, the fall of the jedi. The prequel trilogy is a descent while the OT is the ascent and they have a chiastic story structure which makes the two parts mirror one another. Both in the big events, such as a tribal and primitive people fighting against the forces of industry and while almost losing manages to pull through, to the reflections of the personal story between Luke and Anakin, the choices they make. That's what the poetry thing was all about, Lucas wasn't being pretentious or anything.

If the personal story of the prequels wasn't centered around the father of Luke then it would no longer be a generational story and the parts that rhyme would lose their meaning. The prequels took a pulp story and turned it into a proper space opera, not as in soap opera but in the truly operatic sense. If you actually watch the entire saga from beginning to end and pay attention you will be amazed how these things interlock.

>>16877379

>To have a hope of being good TPM needed to be not a fucking kids film and they made it exactly that and that's why it was not as good as the originals.

They were both made for the same age group and are tonally almost identical.

>The originals had elements kids liked but virtually anyone could watch it and genuinely like it, the same cannot be said of TMP or AToC.

Yes, they can. The prequels are actually better at this for a variety of reasons, such as an increased sophistication which will likely be lost on kids. It's funny, because usually the complaint is that the prequels are too mature and boring for kids.

>Empire shits on all the prequels from a great height.

Actually try watching these films sometime instead of just getting high on nostalgia. ESB is slow and not in a good way, very little happens in it. Only redditors claim it's the best one.

>>16877078

There's only one Star Wars game. Search your feelings. You know its true.

>>16877346

>you probably don't even know Padme was really going to betray Anakin in RotS.

Wait what? Explain, I am super curious.

>>16877947

No. Hutt-cucking is the point.

please for the love of god just take me back to my CH

>>16878054

>Bane

>>16878130

Will we ever have a good Star Wars game now that Disney and EA have the IP?

Jedi Fallen Order is shit, you spend 90% of the game killing big bugs with a glowing baseball bat.

>>16877959

Not that anon, but Lucas originally planned that she'd betray Anakin both personally and politically. They filmed a bunch of scenes where she set up what would become the Rebel Alliance, I think only one of them made it into the actual film. Some other stuff was planned but never filmed, such as her trying to assassinate Anakin at Mustafar, which would have given the ending of RotS more weight. But unlike the memes on reddit Lucas wasn't surrounded by yes-men and after feedback decided to cut it. Which is why it seems Anakin is overreacting at the end, it would have made more sense as it originally was, but that would have been darker. That art he posted is official concept art btw.

I think some other stuff was also planned on the personal betrayal front, but I don't remember any details and it was probably changed in the pre-production phase constantly. Lucas did some setup of this conflict in AotC actually.

I think that the biggest flaw of the prequels is unironically that they are too complex for the original trilogy. Yes they have slightly wonky dialogue, but if anyone tells me that the fight scene between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader wasn't the cringiest fucking shit, I'm going to call them retarded. The originals had equally as wonky dialogue and yet people only complain about the prequels.

The problem with the prequels was that they added far too much gray into what was a black and white, hero vs villain story. They tacked political intrique, philosophy and a gray war where no one was really the good guy onto a monomyth which was about a space wizard fighting an evil space wizard.

No longer were the Jedi pristine heroes, but ineffective cold buddhist-like organization that was just as corrupt as the republic they defended.

The emperor was not only a threatening bad guy anymore, but a charismatic, interesting politician who conducted everything from the shadows, basically breaking apart a corrupt republic, making you wonder if he was such a bad thing in the end.

The light side was not just equivalent of good anymore, it was now equivalent of cold stoicism, while the dark side was equivalent of emotional passion.

It was no longer the story of heroic Luke and heroic rebelion fighting against an evil empire, it was now a story about a morally conflicted Jedi Anakin, being treated like shit by his superiors who didn't know how to deal with it until he finally snapped, manipulated into worse evil by Palpatine. It was tonally very different from the simplicity of OT, no longer a legend of hero but a intergalactic drama.

So in short the prequels are too complex, and too well written for a trilogy that was a well done, but relatively simple story that being said, they were worth it seeing how much good games, stories, comics, shows and other shit we got

>>16878296

That's a valid critique tbh, that Lucas took Flash Gordon and turned it into Dune when he got complete creative control. That the two modes don't fully mesh. Well written post, anon.

>>16877931

>ESB is slow and not in a good way, very little happens in it.

Fucking what? Go and watch Michael Bay movies you underage retard. Please don't breed, I don't want Episode 1-3 to be the new definition of good.

>>16878964

>Because nothing happens in AOTC and its embarrassing.

AotC does a shitton of legwork, it sets up the clone army, Anakin dealing with the death of his mother, the forbidden love between Anakin and Padme, Anakin's frustration with the jedi and so on. It's packed with things going on.

If we look closer on the action then shit happens all the time throughout the film, you have the Blade Runner inspired chase at the start, you have the noir investigation of Obi-Wan getting more and more tense, culminating with a fight against Jango that he barely makes it out from. You have the John Carter style shenanigans on Geonosis, the heroes one after another getting captured. Then you have the big battle at the end with clones and jedi fighting against a new 'droid army and the heroes getting their shit kicked in by Dooku. Anakin goes Tarrant on some sand people in the middle of all of this.

The only area where the film slows down is when it establishes the relationship between Anakin and Padme, which is very important to the narrative because that's where his fall begins.

>>16878963

Pacing is important, you can have a slower film such as A Field in England be absolutely spellbinding if you just make sure it's paced right, if it wasn't it would have been a slog to sit through. Good pacing doesn't mean there has to be fights and explosions every scene, it means things that you see should be given enough time to do what needs to be done, not more and not less. That they should matter.

Jew Jew Abrams pace things too quickly and doesn't let scenes have time to breathe because he knows his scripts are bullshit and don't want you to think too much about what happens. The middle part of ESB adds filler because it doesn't have anything for anyone else but Luke to do, but wants to keep the characters around. This makes the film boring, because everything about Han and Leia was already established on Hoth and then actually developed in Cloud City. So it's not slow because of long takes or nobody punching or shooting at someone else, but because it's all very static.

>>16879244

Honestly, if you for whatever reason hate the prequels and love the OT then Disney gave you exactly what you demanded from George all those years, rehashes of the same old story. Only this time you've got woke politics added, more "diversity" and womyn stronk moments, but it's all just retreads over what the OT did.

>ANH is about a young man getting out of the sandy shithole he's in and discovers that he has special powers and goes to fight the big bad and wins, even if the victory isn't final

<TFA is about a young girl getting out of a sandy shithole she's in and discovers that she's a mary sue and goes to fight the big bad one on one, and wins even if the victory isn't final

These two films are almost identical in a lot of the story beats and what happens, not in the chiastic way the prequels rhyme with the OT, but straight up copying it.

>ESB is about the rebels on the run after they alluh snackbar'd the death star, Luke gets training and the conflict is if he's ready or not to face Vader, a battle which he loses due to a lack of training

<TLJ is about the rebels on the run after they blew up the planet sized death star, Rey tries to get training from Luke, but since he's a man he's now an old bum and refuses, instead she goes to face her enemy and wins

Again, the structure is more or less the same between the films, only the copy is worse. The ending of RotJ is also pilfered, so that instead of getting beaten by Weeb Vader they defeat the not-Sheev and she fails to get him to the light side of the force instead of getting her ass handed to her. Because she never had any training and has already beaten him in a fight, so that plot point doesn't work for these movies.

>RotJ is about the heroes first rescuing their friend and then about facing off against the empire in a conclusive final battle, Sheev gets killed and Luke redeems his father before he dies

<RoS is about the heroes hunting down a gimmick in the most convoluted plot ever to then face off against the empire in a conclusive final battle, the Sheev is killed for a second time, third if you count Gollum-Sheev, and Rey redeems Weeb Vader before he dies, in a more convoluted version of the same scene.

Basically everything about the Disney trilogy is what you get when you remake the OT but without George Lucas at the helm. This is what the "the prequels are the worst movies ever" crowd wanted, and it is what they got. No "boring" politics or worldbuilding, people make Joss Whedon style quips instead of the more sombre dialogue of Lucas, less focus on the Skywalker family and the generational tale about them, no clear themes or motifs. No talk of about how the force works, it just does whatever. Everything people whined about when it came to the prequels were "fixed" and you got the precise antithesis to them.

>>16879342

>people make Joss Whedon style quips instead of the more sombre dialogue of Lucas

This is the biggest reason movies suck nowadays. Every fucking film writer feels the need to shove in one liners and le funny quips every five minutes.

Jokes are fine, sometimes a one liner can really accentuate a good scene, but not when every fucking scene involves one. It's like they think I'll notice that the movie is completely dull and uninteresting unless they try to keep making me chuckle at stupid jokes, which I suppose is the point.

Hell, even the one liners in the prequels were natural and sounded like something their characters would say at the time. Everything Obi-Wan said for instance

>you were right about one thing: the negotiations were short

>hello there

>so uncivilized

Compare to the first fucking scene of TFA

>do you talk first or do I talk first?

That character, don't remember his name, sounded like he forgot his fucking lines.

That's the nutrilogy in a nutshell: actors saying things rather than people talking.

Also what's the sauce on that pic

>>16879405

>Also what's the sauce on that pic

General Buta.

And yeah, the dialogue was terrible, like straight from a capeshit movie. Even considering that, Lucas always wrote his characters to be slightly more refined and in a different mode than most other films use, this made the Star Wars films feel different. Which means some would say they talked like aliens or whatever, but it was a part of what put the setting of the film into "a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away …"