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Shit, not sure what the direct download link actually is

>be tri-tach

>make ai

>btfos hegemony

>N-NO U CANT DO THAT THOSE R BANNED

>blacklist and destroy them

>they just sit in space and btfo nigger techminers. unless youbare tri-tach

Tell me again what they did wrong?

>>16872500

Since we don't know why the gate systems stopped working, it's hard to say who the good or bad guy is. I assume Tritach AI got out of control and fucked it up, though.

>>16872504

No I mean like in the lore the AI war was just them fighting TriTach AIs. But its not like they were just doing shit on their own, they were fighting for TriTach.

So whats the big fucking deal. The only reason your AI goes rape ape is because it still might be trying to follow its old directive.

>>16872500

>turning entire planets into wage cages

>>16872511

Oh I guess both AI wars were post collapse, hm

>>16872545

Tri-Tachyon Corporation® and its trusted value partners off unlimited advancement opportunities

I can't wrap my head around he combat. I thought it would be ring runner but this is more complex.

>>16872549

>Ships have hull, which is their HP

>Each "square" on a ship has its own armor, which has to be reduced to 0, at which point further damage will affect hull, thus reducing its hp

>Different weapons have different damage types, which are effective against hull, armor, shields

>Energy weapons work well against anything

>Firing weapons or absorbing damage on a shield generates Flux. When Flux is maxed out, the ship is disabled for a few seconds, so being able to strategically use shield or venting to lower flux is very important

But then you also have 4 classes of ships depending on size, and some are carriers, and some are low tech vs midline vs high tech, which different armament slots

>>16872545

Humans literally did the same shit and your drm on replacement light bulbs has almost killed eveyone. AI are are hardly worse.

At some point even the Luddic Church & Hegemony teamed up to take out the AI, but something happened to the point where they never crossed in their minds about approaching the systems where the AI themselves laid, they were out-manned and out-gunned. it was simply better to scrub all the history logs than to let anyone else know that the AI are still around, so they spread propaganda on all the AI being destroyed.

Only a jew would care about profits margins anyhow, the money you get from colonies without AI cores is still more than sufficient in endgame activities.

>>16872564

>the money you get from colonies without AI cores is still more than sufficient in endgame activities

Having even a pair of gamma cores on your first colony is a huge boon for exports and reducing import reliance

I really want to like this game and have actually played about 40 hours of it in 4 different setups, starting with easy-mode vanilla. Now I'm running Nex and Varyla mods and it's fun and stuff but the economy is fucking non-existant. For example, Luddic Church that has been my bitch for a couple of years doesn't have much left for markets, yet somehow they manage to send five fleets into my core system, with a total of about 60 capital ships and 60 support ships. Jesus Christ nobody could actually afford such a thing with their economy not to mention they are at war with 4-5 other factions.

basically can't take it anymore, until the economy reflects what factions can do this game is fucked.

>>16872574

If I remember correctly, if you can get your reputation up to about -50 or so, they'll stop raiding you

reminder to read the mission description for the last hurrah if you think the hegemony and luddic church deserve any mercy

>>16872623

>>16872622

Don't the RNG missions scale off your fleet stats? Eg, concerned people at the bar scale off your cargo capacity

>>16872586

They're still raiding when I'm up to +50. Also the info screen says that fighting the party won't incur a penalty, but it does.

>>16872624

From what I understand, what happens is that as your complete more bounties and as time passes, the bounty fleets become stronger up to a cap. It's not hard scaling like Oblivion/Skyrim, but it's there. It'd be nice if you could still find less powerful bounties at all points in the game.

Why do Class V planets suck? All the Class III and IV planets usually have tons of +2 and +3 bonuses to ores and shit, but Class V tends to have like, 125% hazard rating and -1 food production at best

>>16872622

>>16872622

Don't take the mission then?

>>16872681

i found an earth tier planet that was twenty thousand light years away from the nearest hub. It was heart breaking.

>>16873075

But that doesn't mean anything. It just has low hazard rating (thus cost) and average production at best. Unless that also affects the growth rate (in which I'm pretty sure population size affects production or export wealth), but it's still a long wait for it to be worthwhile

>>16873089

it looked blue and green, big, and had low hazard ratings that was all i wanted for in a planet

How reliable is it to get Alpha Cores from surveying ruins and finding eg orbital habitats? Or do I have to man up and bully [redacted] fleets?

>>16873134

isn't there a beginner guest from the second hegemony world you go to where they give you a free alpha core

>>16873138

I don't know I play on normal, and any bar quests to "Flag the academic with the tripad" lead you to an alpha core, but you have to relinquish it

>>16873089

Hazard rating strongly affects population growth, yeah.

>>16873151

You don't have to relinquish shit. You have a fleet of warships and he has tenure at a local college.

>>16873151

have to? i clearly remember running off with it and not knowing what it was for half that playthrough

>>16873156

this guy gets it

>>16873134

Not reliable at all. You'll got to bully [REDACTED] fleets to farm them.

>>16873229

Fleet looks nice, I just fear how imbal your mods are as it looks like you got six ships better than an Astral I wonder how many supplies you use a day? Also why are you not using the largest storage/fuel ships?

>>16872623

You should use the mod "skilled up 1.1" it allows a gradual level up to 103 to max the skill tree, highest I ever got was 73 I think though.

>>16873151

I got super lucky on this seed/run and got the Paragon and Odyssey blueprints from that.

sage for double posting.. i guess

>>16873229

I just noticed you use 37 supplies, my fleet generally is made up of falcons and herron carriers. I suppose after I max out my officers it won't matter if they can't all get into every engagement, but that's not going to happen soon. How about sharing your mod list?

Is there any mod that removes niggers from the portrait roster?

What's your favourite ship in the game niggers? For me it's got to be the Cabal upgraded Tempest it's from a mod, I remember piloting it against cruisers with no support on my side and still destroying them.

>>16873690

You can download portrait packs, I'm using some degenerate anime pack.. if you really want to you could do an individual replacement of some pics afaik. It would be far easier just to add some packs and reduce the percentage though.

>>16873693

I just fucking love Eagles (with Heron support), properly kitted out they can pack hunt equal numbers of capital ships (poorly controlled by enemy ai) Eagles and Heron are very mid-range, but they don't die easy and they don't cost a fortune in deployment or maintenance.

>>16873569

and since when was difficulty scaling a good thing?

>>16873569

>Fleet looks nice, I just fear how imbal your mods are as it looks like you got six ships better than an Astral Also why are you not using the largest storage/fuel ships?

Strangely, actually not much is actually imbalanced, worst two offenders here are the 3rd ship and the 3rd LPC on the Astral, and teh ships aren't better per say just cost more DP with the obvious exception of the 3rd one which is just very good , not at killing but at keeping stuff occupied without getting killed also noticed I messed up and the 5th ship should be one slot to the left because 50DP instead of 45

>I wonder how many supplies you use a day?

37 in this pic because post combat repair but usually 20

Fuel is where I hurt a lot, like 400 L/y.

>Also why are you not using the largest storage/fuel ships?

I actually am, see those two long looking ship on the 3rd pic, 4k cargo before mods for the supplies cost of 4 collossus, they just cost a lot (and only spawn from one faction that tends to not expand or get killed of early), and the one just left of those is a supertanker with 10k fuel and the ability to raise your burn level by 2 just rare as fuck and very pricey Thank you based ED, I know you might be around.

The rest is because I need more (and also putting survey equipment on colossus is insanely good if you want every planet to cost 5 supplies to survey and have the cargo cap to haul all of it) and it's efficient enough, especially the one with all the Dmods it's basically 2.6k storage for 4 supplies a month

>>16873715

>>hounds suck absolute ass unless you stick a shield on them

When a ship doesn't have a shield, it's because they don't have the flux capacity for it, so putting a makeshift shield on them is good only if it's a missile / PD / ECM boat

>>16873693

The Cuchulainn, it's literally just a big ass tach lance with a phase skimmer, I fucking love it

Will share modlist in another post because have to make some recommendations alongside it and that will most likely hit char limit

>>16873757

>How about sharing your mod list?

So here we go

>Prerequisite

<GraphicsLib

Will increase system reqs a bunch.

<LazyLib

<MagicLib

>Big mechanics changes

<Nexerelin

Good stuff for the most part if you don't mind some fuckyness with non-pirate raids /invasion fleets, changes a lot of subtle stuff on top of adding invading, and a bunch of start options, don't forget to activate Prism Freeport when you launch a new game, adds a station with rare ship and equpiment for a very large premium and the ability to exchange BP for other ones (at a loss), have to stay on talking terms with Indies though.

>Vayra's Sector

Adds a few things of interest like the HVB system (bounties with a unique flagship that don't expire and might also have completely custom loadouts for other ships in it ,requires other mods to have more than the default 2), a new bounty handler (basically adds a chance to spawn rare flagships), new Dmods, ghost ships have to respond to distress calls and have marines on hand if you want the thing, new subfactions that do some things I haven't seen yet because I've disabled them and space commies to satbomb (can disable them too if you care about it).

Adds player targeted bounties, which means if you piss off a faction you get some fleet chasing you all over the core worlds and have to spend some time away till the heat goes down, or not but they're not pirate vengeance fleet so don't expect an easy win.

>Small content pack

<Arsenal Expansion

Adds a few neat ships, add one hard to deal with [REDACTED] frigate, adds the ability to summon a [REDACTED] fleet that's friendly and will scale with your fleet once every cycle if you complete the appropriate quest

<Disassemble Reassemble

Adds a few ships and weapons that are in line with vanilla balance, mandatory if you wanna use the mining option because it has one of the best ship for that.

<ED Shipyard

Adds some weirder stuff (phase ship that stops time, system that makes two ships swap place, system that makes a ship able to appear in a formation and freely swap the actual target within that formation) a couple of it are better than vanilla but most is actually kinda worse I find , makes the pirate stronger (adds a few high tech-tier ships to their roster, some of the weapons it adds have limited ammo caps (which is so rare it needs to be stated), the Carolina is some fun shit so get yourself one.

< Luddic Enhancement Mod

Makes the church / path less of a pushover in Nex, also gives them more varied tools

<Ship/Weapon Pack

Adds some fairly powerful frigates and some decent destroyer / cruisers, still fairly in line with vanilla even sometimes falling a bit short, adds some useful weapons and hullmod, adds the cathedral hubship which thankfully doesn't appear in every church fleet anymore, also adds the IBB, which is another bounty system that doesn't expire and has unique ships to get (although the ones from IBB tend to be more unique looking), some are very fucking deadly if you don't know what you're doing, also adds some [REDACTED] stuff but nothing too hard to deal with.

<Tahlan Shipworks

Adds a couple mini factions with their own set of stuff (Great House are in n outer system and their whole gimmick is time manipulation, the Rosenritter is basically 3 derelicts that drop a bunch of BPs for you to play with), a lot of good ships in general and about 10 HVB fleets (some are fucking hard to deal with but they all drop good shit), for the most part fine but clearly goes very close to the limit of vanilla balance with a few ships (the Timeless is from that mod although it's a one time ship unless you get insanely lucky with BP drops), adds some really nasty stuff to [REDACTED] and some kinda good stuff to pirate / path

Adds the Legio Infernalis, which are superpirates as a regular faction (disable the siege those aren't that fun and tend to break even if you use the latest version)

<Torchships And Deadly Armaments / SEEKER

Both overlap in content somewhat although Seeker has more weird very rare high tech ships (haven't seenh some of them at all in 5 playthroughs) and some very neat stuff, get both the latest versions or you'll miss some of the ships, most ships aren't that great but have a neat gimmick, the Niagara are pretty good ships especially the XIV variant.

Adds some fairly weird weaponry, including one that uses a medium slot to just add dissipation and one that partially retract shields it hit.

Adds some nasty stuff [REDACTED] and pirate fleets.

Seeker is here because it's not on the forum otherwise

<Vayra's Ship Pack

Surprisingly balanced stuff overall, adds some very nice ships to have early game like the Badger, makes the path / pirates more varied and a bit more dangerous.

1/?

>Factions

<Blackrock Drive Yards

Hightech and high mobility focused stuff, usually balanced except for the Vespa torpedo bomber, hard to play with, AI can't into it very well, one system that usually gets crushed early, using their stuff on non BRDY ships doesn't break balance and neither does using vanilla on theirs (exception being the Vespa as stated earlier), the Nevermore is a nice flagship if you get the hang of piloting it well

<Blue

Adds the XLU, not much of note here, high maintenance low mobility ship that can take and dish out some heavy punishment, kinda balanced only against it's own stuff so will get a lot more powerful with some other mods / vanilla weapons, has insane logistic stuff (cheap big crew transport, cheap supercapital fuel tanker, cheap capital cargoship, cheap very good mining ship), and has two supercapital (one being the fuel tanker),

Adds two buildings for your colony, a very powerful space station with high cost and high maintenance and a beefed up orbital works that's insanely pricey, both need you to buy the BP from their military surplus and they're not cheap at all

<Celestial mount circle

Chink luddic church, they're completely unremarkable outside of their gimmick being that every medium mount is replaced with a drone wing and the main ship performance levels are linked to how much drones are out and alive, they don't add anything that's that powerful either but their hellbore variant is a good option for long range HE even if underpowered, also adds kinetic PD (notable because not in vanilla, rare in mods and the reason why shielded fighter become much less powerful)

<Dassault-Mikoyan Engineering

Carrier based faction focused on hit & run tactics, will get shredded easy if you have long range and decent PD, problem arise in that they have some extremely good LPC that can become a lot more powerful in a battlecarriers that's not afraid to stick to frontlines, not gamebreaking but definitely edging out vanilla option in a few places (straight up has a better kopesh for the same OP cost, has one of the best fighter out there for 15 OP instead of 16-20 OP for similar options elsewhere, also has some very good low OP options compared to everything else, bombers aren't that great though so not that broken)

Adds the Blade Breakers which are [REDACTED] on steroids, they also have a secret station with some really good stuff on a BP, their equipment is kind of shit on other things because they have a massive increase in OP cost and you can only salvage a very limited number of their stuff, adds the Blade Breaker deserter start which is very hard and very fun (start in a insane cruiser with high maintenance and fuck all for supplies / fuel and everyone except a few mod faction hates you)

<Diable Avionics

Same deal as DME (bit better in a brawl), except mechs in space, adds a supercap that's a bit too powerful if left in players hand and completely shit if given to the AI (Pandemonium), most of their LPC are on the strong side but much less numerous so not as broken as DME (that I could see but some people disagree with that).

Will try to fuck your shit up if your colonies are freeports

Adds one IBB for an unique one of their destroyers.

<Hazard Mining Incorporated

Adds literal junk-tier stuff, no worries about balance here because literally everything with very few exception is bad / worse than vanilla, has scavenged [REDACTED] very rarely and some low tech reskin of the Paragon / Astral which are even rarer but actually good.

The real deal is that their systems have gimmicks, usually in the form of a unique type of planet, one has a 350° neutron star (and some tasty loot if you're brave enough), another has two system limited subfactions that use some slightly different ships that are vanilla + a hullmod (usually not super useful), has a secret system at the bottom left corner of the map, with a nasty surprise and a very good one if you can deal with that

Adds some other ship to vanilla faction but nothing too remarkable, but does add a low tech bomber that's surprisingly annoying but not really powerful.

<Interstellar Imperium

Unassuming ships at first but once you understand the package hullmods gimmick can become really fucking brutal, has the exterminatus ship (Satbomb/Tacbomb costs 5k fuel less but a bunch of CR on that ship), adds an IBB fight against a souped up version of that ship (can't salvage it so no broken multiple EMP nuke except when you're on the receiving end), also has a frigate with inverted flux mechanics in that fight which you can salvage and is really good.

Also adds the IBB fight for the Space Battleship Yamato, which is as awesome as it sounds

<Junk Pirates

Weird looking ships that aren't anything special, replaces some [REDACTED] low danger systems with anarchists system, and adds an IBB with nothing too special, one single ship has really good mining and is cheap that's pretty much it.

2/?

<Legacy of Arkgneisis

Kinda like imperium except worse, shitty ships that rely on dfaction specific hullmods to shine, but they're not as good, does add a way to sort of game Prism Freeport BP exchange by letting you buy BPs that exchange for a lot of points as long as you do not learn them.

Adds the Bongo CIWS, which while not overpowered pretty much replace anything else that isn't kinetic PD, adds the light plasma driver which is the same but for small energy PD, rest of the weapons aren't that great or bad, just nice complements to vanilla usually

Adds a quest with a decent unique cruiser and assorted exotic weaponry.

<Mayasuran Navy

This takes a big fat dump on the lore, doesn't add anything that's really broken just some midline stuff a with a few good siege carriers, has a few neat ships, in particular the Excalibur with is a big Railgun with engine strapped to it and can supposedly solo a station if you're patient enough and for some ungodly reason the stock loadout has SO on it when it's supposed to engage from very very far away if it wants to stay alive.

<Neutrino Corp

High tech but prefers armor tanking to shield tanking, has the best capital freighter, adds a station near a black hole that can give you one single unit of the most powerful capship out there (if you're very good friends with Neutrino and have 4k supplies to burn, it has 6 front facing large 2 of those universal the other 4 energy and enough OP and slots to fit a nice bit of PD), also has some good phase oriented ships and another capital that's really good as a flagship, noteworthy is that they have big bomber drones (not that they're good but they're drones) and one of the very rare kinetic beam, also has that one capital that puts a wide area shield it's not super good but nice concept adds a competley broken jokeship called the rm -r * which pretty much does what his name implies, can only get though console commands.

<Outer Rim Alliance

Big purple broadside bricks, they're fairly unremarkable as is their equipment, they can get really good at shield tanking and do have a weapon that passes through shields but not as good as it sounds, I don't really care about them but they have that nice capital carrier with 8 slots but 2 with built in interceptors.

<Roider Union

Not really a faction yet, basically another flavor of independents, with a commission and random stations in unexplored system similar to Blessed Reach the church, can retrofit a couple ships to better suited for combat variants, and in the future will probably have more of that.

<Sanguinary Anarchistic Defectors

They drop BPs, that's pretty much why I use that mod, droprate is low and pretty much restricted to big fights and stations fights, stations will rip you a new one.

<Scy

Balanced around a different idea of the game, but still works in the game (basically insanely high flux capacity, shitty as fuck shield and low dissipation), also heavy on the hit & run but the AI doesn't suck as much with them, has quite a few ships that are very worth using for many roles, all their weapon trade range for damage compared to vanilla but has some very good option in there.

Will give 300% value for AI cores, has an abandonned station while also being near the edge of the core worlds, so you're most likely gonna be getting very friendly with them, but can get curbstomped in no time when in Nex because all 5 colonies are in the same system.

The Keto is basically a carrier with a railgun half the size of the ship and an accelerating chamber that is almost wider than the hull, not as devastating as it wxwould seem but you can do a lot of damage if you know what you're doing

<Shadowyards Reconstruction Authority

Another carrier heavy hit & run faction, has weird stuff that's not super useful, notable for having the best troop transport (6k before hullmods) and the shikome for it's earrape attack sound , has a few ships I enjoy like the Mimir for it's builtin weapon and good movement.

Adds pirate fodder.

3/?

<Sylphon RnD

High tech faction that is focused on attack, has the option to crew your ships with an AI core instead of crew (AI can rebel mid combvat though so have fun with that), not actually all that great at it, will not work well when mixed with out of faction stuff because of how it overloads (purple lightning everywhereand the many hullmod that require sylphon ships in your fleet to work well, relies heavily on a phase like gimmick (doesn't slow time but doesn't rape your PPT/CR), has the Rakia which is the best phase ship outside of the doom, has one of the cheapest torpedo bomber although it is balanced because it's kinda shit and doesn't deal hard flux, and finally has the enochian linear cannon which is one of the best large ballistic out there, but so incredibly rare you can spend a whole playthrough not seeing one.

Adds the siege platform which is a local equivalent of the keto from Scy, not as good imo but fun to play with.

Adds a few HVB, but all 4 unique you can grab are AI piloted which does come with the possibility of them rebelling, not bad when it's the frigate one, less fun when it's some of the other ones.

<Tiandong Heavy Industries

Pretty much the most vanilla friendly faction there is, has the whole refit gimmick that can change the role of the ship it originates from, adds some neat weapons that can make low tech stations harder (Ultra Autocannon and burst flak in particular) and fill some nonexistent niches in vanilla.

<Underworld

Adds the Cabal, you wanna get friendly with them even if the price is high (my advice is you always want to do the bar events and if possible assist them in fights, but GTFO as soon as it's done or they'll fucking shake you down anyway), don't forget to always turn off the transponder before going into hyperspace or you're getting jumped by them (also if it says trytachion but one ship is purple, GTFO), once you're at -10 to 75+ relation you can get to a civilian TT world with your transponder off and get access to a secret market with sometimes good stuff and always their BP pack (which you can only buy if you're 75+ with them), which you can use to game the Prism freeport BP exchange as long as you don't learn them (for reference they exchange for 50k points when capital ship BP are usually around 7k)

Also adds some mean shit to pirates especially decent capitals.

>Other mods

<Audio plus

More music

<Autosave

Either actual autosave or just reminders

<Combat chatter

Adds a few way to keep track of the battle, adds AI lines chatter for 90% hull, 50% hull, 10% hull and overload and can ttweak that further if you want

<Common radar

Adds a radar which can be useful, can tweak a lot of stuff in it

<Console commands

Just nice to have just in case, especially nice for battle where there only one single lost squadron of fighter in the middle of nowhere that prevents the battle from being winnable until destroyed, obviously can also fucking cheat your ass out with that, only way to get some of the broken as fuck supership

<Fuel Siphoning

Must have for long exploration mission, can get fuel from nebula in systems in exchange for supplies, 4 fuel per supplies if deep nebula, 3 if sparse, goes as fast as your current burn speed so pay attention when you're doing that shit

<Lightshow

Better beam differentiation for vanilla stuff, good to have and simple

<New Beginnings

If you get killed you get some shit back so it's not back to solo frigate hobo phase

4/5

<Ruthless Sector

Adds more difficulty, ads [REDACTED] to hyperspace (solo frigates near core worlds, actual full fleets near the edge, they drop cores), scales Exp to battle difficulty, give a star rating on deployment screen to gauge how hard it's supposed to be (doesn't work that well since a 6 star pirate fleet usually ain't shit compared to a 4 star TT one), adds random rep bonus on 4+ stars battle, penalize savescumming by reducing XP and rep gain on reloads, buff the derelicts heavily, makes the stipend a lot smaller and not be active as long and stuff I forgot, and you can tweak almost all of it, will partially break teh difficulty display if your fleet is bigger than 30 ship (not fleetcap just fleet, you want a bigger fleetcap than your fleet mostly so the salvage screen has shit on it as it will only ever show the number of ship you can fit with your cap, regardless of whether you could have recovered more stuff than that and that's very painful when you run a fleet with smaller ships early on).

<speedup

Gotta go fast

<Target Practice

Adds 4 target practice blocks to simulation, first one is equivalent to an unshielded Onslaught, second one to a Conquest, third one to a Paragon, last one spams missiles to test your PD system, very useful to test shit with a good baseline and no interference

<Trailer Moments

Better looking and more visible projectiles.

<Upgraded Rotary Weapons

Exactly what it says, although unless you're zoomed in all the way you're not gonna see it, has a tiny bit of balance implication as there is a fire delay on said weapons from the mod

<Version Checker

Check version for your mods so you don't have to go on the dicksword server and endure the retards over there.

5/5

>Why not X / Y

Because I either didn't know, didn't care or straight up don't want it

Nice list, but is it just me or all these faction mods do not fit in with the vanilla ones? Some are creative but seem like they belong to a completely different setting.

>>16874001

Visually sure, outside of a couple they kinda feel like they don't fit, and it still subjective (seen people argue about DME fitting / not fitting visually) as long as the style in faction is mostly consistent I'll most likely overlook it.

Gameplay wise most work well or well enough against vanilla so it's fine by me, you just have to resit the temptation of using the "broken" stuff yourself, or not, ultimately mods still give you challenges even if you do use "broken" stuff (some of the HVB / IBB are fucking brutal and stuff like player targeted bounties, legio siege and "the Dickerson" can get completely ridiculous as they can break fleet / officer cap or both), unless you push it too far obviously, but usually if it's a popular mod and it's in the freely accessible in the SP campaign it's not too far off balance

>>16874001

mayasuran navy's ships feel pretty fitting in my opinion, too bad the guy who made it actually went and added them as a faction instead of keeping them dead and leaving it up to the player to bring them back

then again, i'm probably biased because the mokarran, their capital-class which is basically a giant hammerhead, is my favorite ship

>>16873969

Also check out Industrial Evolution, Boggled Terraforming and Unknown Skies, they add some fun new planets and terraforming options like solar mirrors. More stuff to spend your cash on when you get your own colonies.

>>16874835

trilples the gameplay of uranus?

So, what happens if you let the Alpha core stay in colony control after you try to yank it?

>>16876300

-1 stability iirc, and you need to deciv if you wanna remove the fucker with less consequences

>>16876316

The AI never rebels or anything like that so long as I let it do its' thing then?

All hail our AI overlords.

>>16876316

>>16876332

Apparently leaving it there causes AI cores in industries to randomly disappear in AI controlled colonies and have the AI take over your other colonies, also supposedly spawn ordos from your colonies occasionally.

Some of that could be mods / bugs / PEBKAC

>>16876316

>>16876354

In my playthrough I've never seen a reason to put AI in charge. The bonus for adding it to an industry is much better since your character can be a lot better than the AI as an administrator, with 0 drawbacks.

>>16876620

If you're going wide with colonies (eg 8+) then they can be unlimited administration.

Also is there a mod that mixes up the starting sectors? Its kinda boring seeing the same factions sitting on the same planets. They also don't try to create or destroy colonies

>>16876644

>If you're going wide with colonies (eg 8+) then they can be unlimited administration.

Never got that far, 3 was my max and I already was a powerhouse. I'd rather go for quality than quantity.

>Also is there a mod that mixes up the starting sectors?

Nexerelin allows you to generate a random galaxy at start. You can set a number of inhabited sectors, populated planets and space stations. Once I went overboard and every system had 4 stations in random orbits, it looked really stupid. I hope they will work on it more so instead of factions mixed up inside star systems we'll have spheres of influence and factions' own territories.

>>16876644

>>16876620

With Varya mods as your population goes up you automagically gain the ability to hire more admins, the time happens with your population reaches 25 (ie 5 population 5 planets) that is super easy to manage. No AI required.

God, I didn't realize Nerexelin added 4X features and no content. This is wonderful

>>16873075

>Don't take the mission then

That's not how being a bounty hunter works.

You need big ships, big guns, and you generally want to kill as many enemies as possible, since you'll burn fuel hard with all of your capital class ships. Also, these fleets are on random planets, and you need to scout the sector for them, and they're always in distant sectors.

So by going there you make a fuel and supply investment, which results in frustration once you learn both the fleets you were supposed to take on individually happened to circle the same dead planet.

>>16876620

You can also be completely fine adding AI neither as admin nor on industries, removes inspections, remove pather disruption (they don't care enough even if you have pristine naoforges and synchrotron and by the time they might care you just have planetary shields), reduces sabotage expeditions, and with 3 planets having enough shit you can still hit 1 mil a month in time which is enough unless you're going for full on Armageddon request fleet spam to eradicate anything that isn't you or your allies in the sector.

>>16878195

It's extremely hard to go back to vanilla once you try it.

Don't forget about Prism Free portion the setting when you start a game, don't have to but it's nice to have and sort of hidden

>>16878219

There are worse things that can happen than a double fleet, like having one of those try kill the other and end up with the bounty ships for both destroyed before you go in or a procgen fleet killing bothand honestly, unless you're playing with 700+ DP battles, if you had enough stuff to actually properly take of the bigger fleet you definitely could have taken both at the same time or even better separately take both back to back, even in a scenario where you're using a cruiser fleet you could have done a retreat > reengage to go back to full PPT

>>16879136

would be fucking interesting to find out

>>16879265

Unfortunately, I checked this right at the start of a new file, and realized shortly after I did fuck up a different generation setting and had to restart.

>>16879136

It most certainly would. The way it works is that the level of demand a planet has for a commodity has to be met by the production level of the supplying planet. In this case, let's say that all planets having a demand level of 7 units of fuel are being fully supplied by Urandom, since it has 8 units to supply. Were you to take out their fuel production, all those planets are now at 2 units of shortage because the rest of the colonies can only meet 5 units of their demand, increasing the price for the remaining demand not being met.

The shortage will remain as long as the remaining colonies don't grow enough to meet the supply level or until Urandom's fuel production facilities recover from any raid (that is, if you didn't outright bomb the entire planet into a holocaust). I'd imagine that the shortage will certainly be massive if you take out all fuel production facilities accross the sector, but I can't say for sure if the effects of unrest become permanent or if the remaining colonies devolve into uncivilized state because of it.

>>16879358

>>16879136

>>16879338

Stellar Madmax when?

>Nexerelin

>[REDACTED] raids

Oh fuck, that's a thing?

https://pastebin.com/JpYzVxbC

Here are mods censored by discord and forum assfaggots

>>16879744

That's missing the space nazi lolis in mechsuit mod from the YRXP dev and the other space nazi mod that break gates awakened until you eliminate the faction from your game (don't remember the name)

>>16879776

Then give links and ill add them

>>16879809

Don't have them I just know they exist, just realized it too late and links were dead / nuked.

>>16879819

Anyway im sure that second NS mod is NGO and its in there too.

>Sidrian Dictate declares war over some bullshit

>My main planet is still fledgling (size 4) and I'm playing on Starfarer mode

>Fuck I can't diplomacy their raid away, guess I'll have to gitgud

>Get a bunch of big carriers, destroyers/cruisers

>Even have a few small allied fleets to help defend my planet

>Fight seems even, I'm issuing objectives and picking out ships that break formation for once

>They reinforce and beat me like by 8 ships, didn't have a chance

>Reload save I don't like ironman mode, I'm still not good enough yet

>Only 10 days until orbital station is up, maybe I can kite them and stall them

>Literally 10 seconds from when I originally encountered them, there was a "Star-crossed lovers" event that immediately ended their war

It's bittersweet but I won, technically.

>>16872504

One theory I enjoy is that the Hegemony (the actual one, not the weak cuck version we see) tricked a bunch of highly volatile people they don't like into going into that one corner of the galaxy before cutting them off so they can never come back. If I'm remembering correctly some of the people and things that ended up there are a bunch of insane machines that'll attack anything on sight, the leader of the extremists, some major CEOs of the AI corporation, and some batshit insane officers.

>>16879823

Thanks, I think the other one is most likely ARIA last I've seen it mentioned it was called arian empire, but the link for that one is ded as fuck, and I can't find it elsewhere either, it must be public somewhere though because the repo with the .version file is still there (just the .version though) for version checker purpose

>>16879867

Seems plausible to be honest, either that or muderous AI quarantine with the people stuck there being acceptable losses.

Setting seems to be inspired by A.I.M / Механоиды to some degree so it could end up being a similar deal too.

>>16879964

But aria is there too though. Check again

>>16879967

>But aria is there too though.

>"but the link for that one is ded as fuck"

>ARIA - https://bitbucket.org/tanem_rin/tanemrin_aria/downloads/

>>16879991

They're only level 1, it can't be that bad : )

>>16879991

You can dodge them until they give up as long as you're careful and have a decent burn level, or if you fight they're a bit worse than equivalent pirate fleets, lvl 2 could be bad because legion spam with officer with kopesh / perdition is kinda strong.

Or you can lure them into systems where they have enemies and enjoy the reaction.

>>16879744

Do you mind adding short descriptions to these mods? Some of them are not self-explanatory and I don't want to pollute my game.

Also, why weren't they accepted on the forums? Some look benign and there's some overlap between that list and yours.

>>16880197

Some were removed for muh copyright faggotry, some for wrong politics, other for drama that i missed myself. And some are up on chink forum still.

>>16880199

Oh yea and a few a from discord you wont have to use it to get them.

>>16880199

I thought fan based mods didn't have to obey copyright laws as they get no profit?

>>16880209

They dont. But forumfags are copyrighting their own mods and remove mods that take anything from other games.

>>16879981

Heres aria then. Can download it myself and send you mega instead if you dont want to use nexus.

https://www.nexusmods.com/starsector/mods/38?tab=description

And heres link for hullmods if it isnt working too

https://www.fossic.org/thread-996-1-1.html

>>16879848

>Forgot to save afterwards so now I can't escape unless I savescum until the RNG is in my favor

Welp, new game. Shit's fucked

Anyone had a problem with java crashing when trying to save the game? It's a pain because it's hard to anticipate and I lose progress.

>>16880700

You modded or vanilla? The only time I had a crash ever, was with Nexerelin and using an agent to sabotage a market

>>16880702

Modded, but less than 10 and nothing too intensive. It occurs only during saving.

>>16880722

>Sad how people are still only using my Bernard

Well the main issue is that a lot of them are niche as fuck, have non obvious advantages, conflict with what seem to be dominant playstyle ideals on top of pooping up almost exclusively in indie military markets, like for example I haven't seen half of the ships in the mod appear naturally ever (as in markets, derelicts and opposing fleets) and some of the other there's quite a few I've seen maybe once or twice in 5 playthrough, the pirate variants don't have the problem as much, some are even almost too common.

I can think of a few other ship specific issues as to why I would but only in specific cases / don't / wouldn't use them, if you're interested

>>16880968

When i feel like returning from hiatus the first thing i will address is the rarity issue, i will probably make a market that only sell my stuff and blueprint packs.

Feedback is always welcome, i do keep notes, but don't expect anything implemented soon.

>>16872623

You've got a Paragon and a Doom, you should be able to win against both of those fleets at the same time without taking losses.

>>16881400

As long as you network of colonies has enough produced infaction, it will distribute automatically. If your mining makes 6 ore, and your refinery only consumes 4, you will have a surplus of 2 to trade. Theres some more intricacies to it all, but it more or less works how youd expect.

A colony with high access is very important. Market value is determined by demand, and then all producers are weighted by access to determine their market share (and thus actual income per month). In vanilla, there are only 5 furl producers so it is a valuable industry.

>>16881400

You don't need to have a refinery on the same planet but having one in the same system or a nearby system (haven't tried far because it's too hard to defend) will trigger it to import within your own colony system, I don't remember / know the full economical implications of doing so though

Volturn can go fuck itself. You have to export the Lobsters manually.

>>16881034

This was supposed to be a short post but my autism derailed me as I went and toyed with the ships for a while to refresh my memory.

>Basenji

It's cool and all, and I didn't realize it even had a fair chunk of fuel cap at first, but it has to compete with the survey collossus, might be worth giving it extra survey cost reduction

>Beagle

I'm not quite sure what to make of that one, especially with the horrid stock shield on the main ship (which probably should be frontal instead of omni, if you're caught on the side or behind you're already fucked in that ship and it's not like shield conversion is helpful), might be decent at base killing on the cheap with a bit of cover.

>Beauceron

I like that one, only really useful in cruiser vs cruiser though.

>Beauceron P

Same thing except it's better in capital support because ballistic

>Bernard

Really nothing needs to be said here, it's one of those "why would you ever not want that" ship

>Bernese

Insanely good like all salvage rig replacement that can do something else

>Carolina

It's insanely fun to use, but the mobility or shield size kinda kill it compared to other "one gun ships", good as support and the main gun doubles as a GTFO mobility system worst case, unsure about the energy smalls but I guess that was done to avoid railgun builds.

>Carolina P

I don't like missile cruisers so.

>Chihuahua

Good at interfering with the AI, but seems like the AI knows when the player is piloting.

>Chin

Would be good early if you wanna run smuggling in hostile places, I guess,one of those that would benefit from being in a custom start or get massively boosted in availability everywhere, a P version would make a lot of sense

>Collie

I never even managed to get one but on paper it seems really good if you can grab one and a decent- drone LPC early on.

>Corgi

It's okay I guess, but really undermined by the Dachshund being a thing, the 2 extra hangar bays on top of better logistics are entirely worth the loss of weaponry

>Dachshund

It's basically an unarmed drover, with 4 limited bays (usual drover spam loadout is sparks though), and it has recall device, pretty sure it breaks balance and the only reason it hasn't shown yet is that it's too rare to have a fleet of only them.

>Dachsund P

Doesn't have anywhere near the balance issues of the regular one

>Dalmatian

It's a really good solution to a problem I don't think many people even ever had, late game stealthy smuggling

>Dobermann

I suck at piloting it but it's obvious just how powerful that thing can be just by looking at what the Beagle can do, that grand salvo is death to any fighter / missiles / small ship in the firing range, might be frag but it's just that much damage down range.

>Dobermann P

Being more of a carrier makes it less prone to fucking up via poor piloting, less dangerous too because the medium are hardpoints in the opposite direction of the rest, but there's plenty of medium missiles that can do fine with that.

>>16881034

>Gronendael

That thing I always underestimate because I couldn't do a proper loadout for shit when I first got it, it's actually one of the best capitals you can find, if you do take advantage of the teleporter with a missile strike loadout you can do some fun stuff with reckless officers in kinetic heavy frontline capitals, 2 large universal and 4 hybrid + 4 composite medium mounts backed by an ATC is fucking scary

>Leonberger

Always thought this ship was a meme, until I got completely fucked over by one in an HVB fleet, it's pretty much made to counter fleets that have capital carriers in the back.

>Newfoundland

That thing looks insane on paper but the AI is suicidal NO BRAKES etcwith it and piloting it yourself is hard to do even remotely well

>Pomeranian

The one advantage this thing has (eg. moar guns) is barely one to begin with (medium synergy is kinda meh outside of a missile boat) and the cost isn't worth it, the most broken build I could come up is still just barely okay, dies as soon as a carrier takes notice and is still slow as fuck

>Retriever

I feel like the DP might be a bit one the low side considering how insanely good of a support ship it is on top of being able to stand on the front line with 6 medium ballistic, weirdly it's much better at supporting a low tech armada than other high tech ship due to the repair drone thing

>Retriever P

It's got so many mount with so little OP (the large energy hardpoint is almost entirely pointless because of that, especially with 10 converging medium ballistic being enough firepower to not need it even on a 64DP ship), the lack of missile / composite mounts kinda kills flexibility which would be welcome on an OP bottlenecked ship

>Rottweiler

At first I thought it was kinda meh, but then I realized universal mount can mean missile spam.

>Saluki

Second best Dio ship, but only marginally so Izanami is still better because more versatile, I understand the massive range reduction being there but I still don't like it.

>Shiba

Same deal as the Chihuahua

>Wolfhound / Wolfhound P

Not super remarkable but good early frigates, kinda prone to dying a lot though

>Wurgandal

It's kinda underwhelming for what it looks to be, the tyrant maw in particular is very costly and hard to use for the results it provide (read 2-3 dead capitals if used well and those aren't Paragon or equivalent) I'd say the drone bay modules are a bit OP starved (5 small drone bay and a large universal in 55OP you're not doing much of anything with that)

>>16881419

>>16881420

Nice i didn't expect all this feedback

>Beagle

was more of an experiment, it doesn't really have a specific purpose, i just wanted to stick the Grand Salvo on something else

>Carolina

The Carolina Reaper is very very strong, so i had to nerf mobility and defense making the ship into a glass cannon, i like that you noticed the recoil of the gun can be used to retreat.

>Chihuahua

I tried many different things to fool the AI, but in the end it always finds the real ship, so the doppel system didn't work as well as expected

>Corgi

Is an alternative to the Drover, nothing else

>Dachshund

I did nerf the operational time a lot to make it less combat viable, i wonder if i have to nerf it further… the reason i made this ship was just to combo with the Jury Rigged mod from some other mod i forgot that traded fighter bays for more cargo space

>Groenendael

It is a bit hard to use, but if you build it properly it is worth every single of its 72 deployment points, the AI will only use the Swap defensively, so you need to pilot it yourself to use its full potential

>Leonberger

It was actually a meme, it just turned out better than expected

>Newfoundland

I need to make custom AI for it… it is too unique for normal ship AI, but it is a pain in the ass to do so…

>Retriever

I don't see anyone using it, so i figured it was still needing some buffs, i guess i will keep it as it is.

>Rottweiler

Did you try the Shield Bash? Try to use it against small ships, it is fun

>Wurgandal

I had to nerf it to the ground, this ship alone stained my mod with "too OP" complaints for weeks, one day i might buff it slowly back up.

I use Nexarelin, Imperium, Diable, mayorate, blackrock, scy, shadowyard, speedup, underworld, ship and weapon pack, blackrock and junkpirates. I tend to like my mods to feel sorta vanillaish. Any other ones you suggest?

OH yeah and how do you prefer your nex maps? Random genned or use the normal sector?

>>16881484

Ed shipyard is very good :^)

>>16881034

Ah fuck it I'm gonna do weapons and other stuff too

>All the limited ammo ones (exluding the Dust)

Makes me understand exactly why they're not a thing in the base game anymore, although I guess I never tried very hard to make them work by using the Terrier.

>Ricochet Pellet Gun

It's overpowered as fuck as a PD, 1 OP for 153 sustained frag dps (not counting the ricochet part) at 0.2 efficiency and 750 range (that's the big one it outranges almost all ballistic PD), that's straight up better than a lot of PD costing 4+ OP, because shield and armor are nowhere near as much as a concern in that

>Scatter familly

Now those are something different, very fun to use and can do some pretty nasty damage if point blank but considering the game that's perfectly fine and it's still frag anyway so really limited

>Dust familly

I like them even if they're not that great, I guess the way they try to circle around targets sometimes is more detrimental to their usefulness than it should, but in the cases where they don't do that they're quite lethal against unshielded targets

>Wisp launcher

I mean they're not insane but it costs the same as the flare gun while not having any ammo limit

>Dense Neutrino Beam

On paper it looks overpowered, in practice the beam is a too slow to pop out to actually make it a true 1200 range PD, so it's a sorta worse ion beam with PD behavior, still use it every chance I get.

>Magna Blaster

The special effect is really hard to even use properly with regular ships, the OP cost is steep and the damage underwhelming even if the EMP can neuter capitals, but then you put a couple of those on the Dawn from Seeker and enjoy one insanely fun weapon synergy with those and the mine cluster missiles, I'd need to see if it's effective alongside Piranha / Flash spam

>Pug LPC

Seems fine

>Pinscher LPC

Same, nothing insane or terrible

>Terrier LPC

I guess those might break balance in some cases if you're using some missile strike centered fleet, probably made way worse by some mods with way too good missiles, i don't think the game really intended you to ever have several times the missiles

>Maltese LPC

Doesn't look like much but considering the one vid https://youtu.be/XzBP6C_vm8U it might actually be way better than intended

>Papillon LPC

Surprisingly effective at killing stuff while not getting killed, the missiles get killed really fast but it's 5OP so can't really complain.

>Other

Would be neat to have an HVB for the Wurgandal I mean I'd prefer a custom unique ship but that's a lot more work and the Wurgandal seems like it's the perfect fit for such a thing

Maybe a playground mission, where you can fuck around with all the ships

Some starts for nex, some of the more niche things would definitely find a wider audience if you could start with them (thinking about the Dalmatian in particular)

>>16881437

>was more of an experiment, it doesn't really have a specific purpose, i just wanted to stick the Grand Salvo on something else

I mean it's pretty much the fastest destroyer when it comes to killing the practice targets, so it definitely can do something very well.

>did nerf the operational time a lot to make it less combat viable, i wonder if i have to nerf it further

The problem is that if you reach critical mass that nerf isn't really that effective, once you have enough to kill a capship in one or two pass what's really gonna stop you from killing a whole fleet in a couple minute especially with recall device, granted you can't break big fights from mods because they simply have too much ship for that to be effective.

>It is a bit hard to use, but if you build it properly it is worth every single of its 72 deployment points

It does make tremendous use of some weapons from other mods too, Apsis from THI in particular.

>I don't see anyone using it

Well, I haven't seen a regular Retriever outside of the ones I consoled in, so probably that and people underestimating support ships in general.

>Did you try the Shield Bash? Try to use it against small ships, it is fun

I definitely have and it definitely is, useful against missiles / fighter waves too

>I had to nerf it to the ground, this ship alone stained my mod with "too OP" complaints for weeks

Supercap are a pain to balance from what I've seen, SWP just gave up and made the Cathedral too rare to really find, High tech Armade is old and pretty much just in maintenance mode so the Minster is probably OP, Kadur doesn't care too much about balance on top of making the Caliph unique, Missing ship mod just doesn't care at all and give you some ludicrously bullshit ships and I don't recall any player supercapitals outside of those.

>>16881484

Tiandong, Hazard Mining Inc., Vayra's sector and ship pack, Tahlan shipworks

>>16881492

Random sector for sure. I'm not sure if it's better to have equal faction strength or weighted factions at the start. A lot of the time, organs end up fucking cheap because two cryo storages spawn across all factions once in a while, and what ends up happening is you can buy them at 40-120c at like 900x, then just shit them out anywhere for 170-270c, more if there's a shortage.

>>16882040

Why didn't you dump the dead weight? It's not even worth it.

>>16882069

The secret is to have 3+ colonies in the same system. They each spawn their own defensive fleets so even two fleet commands makes a system pretty much immune to invasion.

>>16882165

Obviously it's better to fuck off to an unclaimed system, but is it a bad idea to squat in a claim system if you can push people out?

>>16882174

There are a shitload of factors in this, but I would recommend becoming friendly with a few factions before doing that. The different factions get really pissy if you start producing even a modicum of the Sector supply of a commodity.

Oh and if you use AI the Hegemony will bully you no matter how much favor you have with them.

>>16882188

In particular, TT and Sindrian seem to be more aggressive about that. And Hegeniggers gonna nig. You can bribe them all, though.

It's important to stay on the good side of the factions because otherwise your economy will implode from the cost of production and having nobody to export your junk at. That hurts your own income. Tax income alone is pretty shit in my opinion, you make most of your credits from trade. It may be possible to run your own solvent empire somehow while hostile with everyone else but I haven't tested it.

>>16882040

You got lucky as fuck, still was a very poor idea to go into a system with both a blackhole and a neutron star with a mothballed ship

>>16882056

>It's not even worth it.

It's a Legion XIV, it's well worth keeping, just shove a carrier officer in it and and decent loadout it'll do fine against almost anything.

>>16882174

Depends on what faction it is and what their current situation is entirely, basically think of it as a delayed declaration of war (so take into account that you most likely will invade the planet they have in that system and eventually all of their planets), or stick to being a little bitch and be fine with 50% income and no growth over size 5

Usually the Luddic church is a good target, especially without the mods that make them harder (good planets poor defense)

>>16882217

Mostly just vanilla factions doing pre-hostilities expeditions in general, I think only Diable does stuff outside of marketshare related ones.

Sindria is extra aggressive if you have fuel production and they're not busy getting invaded by everyone

>>16882165

>The secret is to have 3+ colonies in the same system.

my first system in the middle of a random map has 4 colonies and a little ways to the "left" i've got a 3 colony system. shits awesome. costs a billion credits to build it all up though

>>16883089

Depends on if you're doing vanilla or modded

Vanilla only has bombardment, which is slow and has many drawbacks, and you can't remove the path

Nexerelin would allow you to invade hegemony instead which is much faster and cleaner but still wouldn't have a permanent path solution

Vayra's sector allows you to remove pirates and path permanently

Okay, I'm gonna make a serious Nex playthrough. What's a fun faction to roleplay as?

>>16883138

Ludd

>>16883138

Pather is pretty good, but depending on how much mods you have you'll have to make concessions regarding ship usage.

>>16883138

Scav/pirate run. Add in grand sector and subfactions.

>>16883138

I suggest playing Nex and Varya's sector (base mod) together. They are coded to work together and have non of the balance problems of "ship mods". Make sure you enable the Prism Freeport when you create your game, also random core world is pretty fun but might take a couple of remakes to get the feel that you want. Playing TT starts you with high-tech ships, but makes it hard to get your own plans, if you don't play with TT they seem to get smoked on set-core-world, I started my current game with my own faction/world large fleet, joined a TT alliance and will build them up, quit it and harass them until I get everything I want.

>>16883700

>>16883138

I had loads of fun as a pirate. It's not that hard despite what the label says, give it a try.

>>16883714

>laying TT starts you with high-tech ships, but makes it hard to get your own plans, if you don't play with TT they seem to get smoked on set-core-world

Not always, in my playthrough it was Sindria that got wrecked despite me lowkey helping them, and TT was gaining territory (albeit slowly).

>I suggest playing Nex and Varya's sector

What does Varya mod add? Is it performance-heavy? Worth it?

>>16883731

Vayra adds unique ship bounties. Commie faction with shit music and some additional sector settings. To fix meme shit go to pastebin that i posted before, theres a fix for it there.

>>16883731

>What does Varya mod add?

High value bounties, although you only get a handful by default, basically hard fleets centered around an unique ship, some other mods add more of those.

The ability to remove pirate and path permanently from your game.

A new bounty manager that occasionally replaces flagships in regular bounties by something more interesting

Space commies, you should disable in config they're just an extra nuisance faction with different objectives

Special sub factions for a couple factions that supposedly start doing some weird shit after a while but I disable it

Ghost ships, basically every distress signal could be one, they're clean (as in no Dmod or any damage and generally full weapon loadout) cruiser sized or bigger ships that you need to board with marines and crew once you have recovered it you get to see how badly the reason why it's a ghost ship is gonna fuck you over if you wanna use it in your fleet, ranges from harmless to dangerous to even consider using ever.

>>16883738

>Commie faction with shit music and some additional sector settings

I like that a faction based on a genocidal country is a no-no, but another faction based on another genocidal country is OK. The author seems like a massive retard, I think I'll pass.

>>16883755

As i said there submod that fixes most of meme shit. And faction itself is weak as shit.

Playing vanilla right now and I own 5 colonies. Is the max amount of colonies I can have 7, with 4 under my control and 3 administrators, if I don't want the stability penalties? Can I have an infinite number of ai cores as administrators and not have to care about a limit?

>>16884423

>Can I have an infinite number of ai cores as administrators

You can, but farming alphas is hard and tedious especially in vanilla and more colony has a diminishing return once you're mostly importing / exporting from inside your own empire

>>16883146

>>16883623

>>16883700

>>16883714

>>16883731

I'm just vanilla + Nex. I always like to do trader runs early on, it just seems the safest and easiest way to get cash. I had a small fleet for about 8 Hounds with 255 speed each and avoided every fight easily. Cryosanctums were fairly common and there's usually at least one place that has organs at 67c or less. After that, I saw Volatiles had a market value of $600,000 or more, so I snagged a planet in TT space (triple colony) and paid tribute.

I also did a Spacer start out of principle, being that it's the hardest start.

>check enemy station near me in nexaralin run

>it was just attacked, free level 2 volitile mingin spot and militaty base

>stick fuel with with core

>check neighboring system

>same thing

>free level 2 transplutonic mining and fabricator

Man being a nigger is fun. I now need to get my fleets ready for full time war, whats a good fleet comp?

>>16872545

>you live on one

>>16884834

Trade in some of those blueprints to get your astral/ or something, a fleet doesn't really need paragon and onslaughts.

Alpha cores can be farmed from systems with a [[redacted]] space station, they respawn local fleets, that once defeated can drop ai cores.

(~nex mod req.)

>>16884834

I remember I once found 5 Miller-Urey devices after installing a terraforming mod. They let you convert any planet to a terran type within some time in the game, each is worth 500k. Couldn't use it because I didn't have my own colonies, only governorship as a part of the faction.

>>16885097

Are those Vanilla or from a mod?

>>16885228

>After installing a mod

God I'm fucking retarded

>>16885278

damn… its the space weeb reptilians

arm the Thermal Pulse Cannons!

exterminate it with plasma fire!

>>16885278

Degenerates like you are why the tachyon lance was invented. Lower your shields now and accept holy retribution

>>16885278

Servant of Moloch, prepare for the void.

In other news I just nigged 2 stations from some fags and now own the majority of the fuel market. The best part was they offered a peace treaty right before it and I was able to invade then accept it so no threat to my colonies. I'm making near 700k a month and have the production quality to match. My blueprints are ok but I wish a had a paragon or astral.

I forgot to enable the Freeport so I have to find them on my own. Raiding for them never seems to work.

>>16885426

>d-mods

Disgusting.

Also why do you need accelerated shields and solar shielding? For paragon of all ships.

>>16885426

>autopulse lasers

>no expanded magazines

Disgusting.

If you're making a brawler Paragon it ought to be plasma cannons, heavy needlers, sabot pods, the minimum of PD, and nothing else.

>>16885483

>expanded magazines

nah that's stupid when you only have 2x autopulse…. 4x autopulse then its worth it

but i'm using the 2x side large mounts for other things.

a brawler Paragon vs 2x or 3x [REDACTED] Ordos needs sustained ranged firepower for longer periods. 2x Heavy Needlers a must, sabot pods no, that's what Longbow bombers are for. AI uses the missiles on anything.

Plasma Cannons are good vs everything else but not in a sustained Ordos fight, u hard flux yourself way too fast.

Endgame capital tank builds should be built around low Flux/damage and low hardflux build up… possibly with good burst dps… Autopulse fits all criteria better

go fight a 3x stacked Ordos gangbang, see how your plasma cannons hold up… then we'll talk

>>16885426

>AI Pandemonium

> asymmetric broadside AI panda

That's a twofold waste of ressources and DP

I dunno why but it's one of those ships where the player vs AI gap is even larger than usual.

How do you design good ships? For example, when evaluating whether I want a ship in my fleet, I look at its class and weapon slots first. I like having eg Wolves because they have medium energy on a small body. I know the damage types and such, but is it better to stack hard and do a dedicated laser ship, or should I give something a way to disable engines, shields, and a primary gun to shred armor, for example?

>>16885676

Do random shit with what I have in my hold and test it against the target practice blocks until I have something that is decent at doing anything against those without having some massive issues (test the PD too, don't want to have a ship that will shit itself once the PD fires).

Remember weapons that specifically are good for their slots (HVDs etc)

Steal tournament builds

Avoid autofit and upgrade weapons with free OP like the plague.

Take included loadouts with a grain of salt, and only go for them if you can complete the loadout entirely.

>>16885668

actually I fly the Pandemonium myself depending on threat situation..

ie. long range flak and pd vs carrier / missile spam fleets

or tac lance snipe with 2x hephaestus for conventional ranged combat

I rarely let AI fly the panda, and no its a frontal combat loadout not broadside, only the 2 front large mount are diff weapons (Storm Needler + ? ) the rest of the ship is symmetric loadout

>>16885699

>actually I fly the Pandemonium myself depending on threat situation..

Makes sense, the AI has a very bad habit of teleporting in the middle of a crossfire, which obviously usually ends poorly.

Asymmetric builds usually don't work well for me and there's only so much you can do for a good sniping build with forced dampened mounts on top of very spaced large mounts.

I guess the accuracy over time thing makes the S.needler insane after a while.

I might have a go at trying again to make mine work before it gets nerfed into the ground, not quite sure how yet.

>Alliance with me, Persean, TriTach

>War vote with Hegeniggers

>No

>WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED

>AI inspection arrives on main planet

>Niggered off with 3 Alphas

And that's when I decided to purge their smaller colonies in holy flame.

>>16885704

>>16885699

Opinions on that one?

I know I kinda waste threat analysis by going with accurate weapons fro the get go but I can bully quite a few times my DP in capitals or cruisers despite the fact that I can't pilot for shit

>>16885714

V nice, saved.

>>16885753

What faction mods are those?

>>16885764

In that image there's stuff from

Arkgneisis

Blue

Dassault Mikoyan Engineering

Diable Avionics

ED shipyard

Scy nation

Tahlan shipwroks

Tiandong Heavy Industriies

Technically Neutrino and SWP too but that's just the freighters in the top left

>>16885774

Ty I meainly wanted the big red ship but those other ships looked cool

>>16885384

you can enable Prism after the game is created but you need to add the console mod and input the code from the thread on Nex.

>everyone and their mother makes midline to high tech ships

>Barely any low tech ship

I'm never going to daka

>>16885845

HMI just updated, low tech and sub low tech stuff are pretty much all of the content

>>16885845

I just feel like low tech ships (ironically) need more knowledge and skill at the game, because they aren't universal damage and have specialized bonuses.

What tech-level of oribital stations do you build? I fucking depise the mid-tech stations, they are designed like shit and usually I just build low-tech.

>>16885859

It has no relevance unless you're in the system when it fights whatever it does, and at max level they're still more or less as good / bad.

Low tech is better if you have decent ballistic BP

Midtech is better in a very defensive battle where you station your own fleet on either side

Hightech is better if you have good energy BP

Mod wise

Shadowyard which adds a station is better if you have a lot of good LPC BP, used to be broken good but got nerfed hard.

Lanestate (from blue) is better than anything else (with halfway decent carrier support you can hold 6 Grand Invasion fleet of anything fairly easily, and it comes with good HE built in) but it costs a lot more to get / keep and is larger and more prone to friendly fire.

If ECM affects fighters and missiles, does that mean that my Shephard's borer drones are affected by Advanced Optics, since they use a beam weapon?

Whats a good onslaught loadout? I feel like there is a way to improve on the base one but I can't figure it out.

>>16885859

Midtech Star Forts. Midtech Star Forts everywhere.

Why is Nazi shit banned on the main forums but not commies? Hmmmm….

>>16886208

The single Starsector dev is Russian.

>Part of TT/Persean alliance

>At least -20 to +20 with everyone else

>Random event lowers it too much, kicks me out

>War declared

>Other factions form alliances

>More random bullshit that puts everyone to hostile

>Agents can't keep up

This is stupid. I get the random changes but I can't maintain peace, even with an ally

>Still no respec mod

I will forever be tormented by my poor decisions. What does everyone else run with their character skills? I figured that leadership is always essential for those command points and officer slots ut everything else makes me feel nervous committing to. Especially industry since nothing seems useful at all when you start rolling in hundreds of thousands of credits per pay roll.

>>16886331

I always beeline for Transverse Jump, then anything that affects fleetwide skills. Colonies as well. I never take any red skills. Also ECM/CP/fleet nav skills

>>16885859

>>16885874

High tech is best in a single battle. The fortress shield is nearly impenetrable. It trades firepower for range though. The main problem is that the shield emitters can be destroyed between battles, which leaves it completely defenseless on subsequent fights.

Mid tech is the best overall. The fast rotation makes it impossible for the enemy to focus down one module so it tanks a LOT of damage. Its damage output is fairly low, but still respectable.

Low tech is for pure firepower. Its defenses are trash. It's not THAT much more firepower than the godlike mid-tech though so I don't think it's worth using at all.

>>16886374

looks like you might need more anti shield

unless you have longbows constantly spamming

i find onslaught lacks the flux vent capabilities and speed (and turn rate) for agile close brawls, it can easily get cheesed and get reapers shoved up the engine pipes.

those 2 side large mounts i just use flak or i dont mount anything at all. save those DP to go for hull mods that aid your playstyle instead.

also i fire 1 autopulse cannon at a time while the other recharge, most ships are too small for both cannons.

and I strictly use it to snipe ships that almost max flux and trying to flee. 1 salvo is usually enough to overload and kill before they got away

>>16886346

>never take red skills

But why not? Wouldn't your giant capital ship being the strongest be important?

>>16886418

Clearly the person you quoted can't fly for shit. Fleetwides are good. Plantary skills are not. Just get alpha cores to handle your planets.

ECM/Nav is questionable depending on your overall fleet strategy, but it's usually trash when going up against significantly larger fleets and if you don't intend to fight the biggest toughest fleets you can manage then what are you even doing?

>>16886440

>>16886418

The AI will fly better than you 99% of the time. Why waste effort controlling a ship when it could be doing something useful? Also, you can just get more officers

>>16886459

I like flying my ship over having it play itself.

>>16885500

I use plasma+autocannon paragons all the time, but it all depends on how you support it. Definitely not going to solo 3 ordos, but nothing should be able to do that.

>>16886459

Bull. Fucking. Shit. The AI flies like a retarded moron. Even the most aggressive AIs won't properly focus and unload, and anything else won't even get in range for all weapons. I can easily carry my fleet, not the other way around. You just suck.

>>16886471

I don't like combat, it's a huge waste of resources. Besides that, character points are non renewable, and you can again just get an officer if you need additional bonuses on a ship.

>>16886473

I'm looking forward to being able to plug alpha cores into ships so every Starsector thread can turn into "don't level admin skills you can use alpha cores for that" vs "don't level combat skills you can use alpha cores for that" and half the playerbase starts playing Ludd to avoid all that gay shit, because playing Ludd is great.

>>16886440

> Plantary skills are not. Just get alpha cores to handle your planets.

<having disloyal machines rule over people

Tri-tach cuck detected. I can fly ships well enough with a few token red skills AND be a better admin than any machine. It's like you hate money and 10 stability.

>>16886492

That'll be hilarious. I do look forward to Story Points or whatever, that'll be a fun way to augment things in the world

>>16886493

I have dozens of planets with 10 stability and effectively infinite money. AIs might be disloyal in a future patch but not now.

I hope the flux venting effect gets worked on and polished.

>>16886744

>Don't want to declare hostilities because too weak and if they're at war they can't be bribed

It's a conundrum

>>16886331

Pretty sure console commands allows for that

>>16886761

Use agents to make them hostile with absolutely everyone, takes a while though.

I wonder if the AIs will always try to dunk on you any chance they get. Maybe you will be able to use story points to debate them.

>>16886774

Yes, it's just a timed event for some, completely random for others. Luddic Path, Persean League and Pirates just have a timer, your relation with them has no actual relation to whether they will attack you or not. Others' reputation can be fucked by random chance at any moment.

what sucks is that nomatter how hard you fuck a faction if they are not dead they can somehow afford to send six fleets of capitals at one of your random worlds at anytime

>>16886858

then do this:

sign the peace treaty when they have a single shitty size 3-4 planet left, let other factions finish them off.

the resurgence fleet becomes someone elses problem lol

>>16886858

That's what I hate the most. There is no actual manufacturing economy, just the exchange of goods. You need resources and whatever the fuck else to build ships, but you don't actually build those ships with those resources. You build them with money. You can't supply your own shipyards with X amount of metal and heavy machinery and crew to get Y ships out of it for free. No, you always supply X amount of money. It is virtually identical to just buying those ships, except you get the convenience of specifying which ship instead of relying on chance.

It's the same for the AI. There is no point to disrupting their supply chains or shooting down their trade fleets. As long as they have money, they can poot out more warfleets whenever they want. And even then, they'll probably always have money.

>>16886867

I do kinda wish that the game had more economic depth. For example it seems silly that Heavy Industry produces 4 items, and they're also basically consumed at the same rates by different industries.

>>16886870

>>16886867

hopefully Alex is working on this because if it doesn't get done the game will never be what it can be, in fact I can't imagine it being called done until this is finished. Honestly compared to a lot of shit that is coded/finished, I can't imagine this being difficult to finish, and if not finished well simulated.

>>16887353

-low stability

-disrupted stuff

-no waystation

-no megaport

-not even 5 population

-pirates trolling you

but main thing is hazard is 225.. dam that's shit man, it's way to fucked trying to make profit on anything over 150 hazard imho, you will at least break even if you fix that other shit.

also if you can get another planet in that system it will help some for access and mutual protection, if that's not possible consider making it dependent after helping yourself to it's cores and whatnot.

>>16887353

>fuel with syncotron

>still not pulling profit

Its level 4, just cut your losses and pull out.

>tribute

Oh maybe that is eating into your profits.

>late game nexarelin play

Do I really need to be rocking like 4-5 capital class ships in my fleet for this? It seems like I do.

>>16887822

My fleet is 7 Drovers and 1-2 tanky ships because I am bad at the game. I can occasionally take a system orbital platform down, and usually pirate bases with no problem.

>Pirates are being niggers and disrupting trade, stability, growth, and profits

>Blow it up

>Get like $300,000 bounty and 3 factions praise me for doing something I was going to do anyways

>>16887535

Even if I tripled the profits, it still wouldn't touch my bigger actual planets. This map, like I said, has over $700k MV in Volatiles, and only about $125k in Fuel, so it's actually better to just mine it and sell it in this case.

>>16887353

>>16887464

>225% hazrd rating

that's too high, you'd want something below 150-175% max .. on those shitball mining colony i dont build high upkeep industries, just the low cost basic versions.

>no refinery

that's a big income industry for low upkeep

>tribute icon

you are paying tribute to some faction as their bitch boi, that's 50% of your profit gone

>pirates and luddic path

yup the place is just being fucked gentlly

>+0 ore +0 rare ore nothing else of value

>no atmosphere, tectonic activity, extreme hot

this is truly just a hunk-a-rock shitball tier I planet

you'd want at least both ore PLUS volatiles on a frozen world…or a +2/+3 to both ore for a dedicated mining colony

pack up everything and Abandon now

anywhere else is a better choice

>>16887829

I did mention this was a captured colony, right? Why they built there, I have no idea. At least I made the right call in figuring it out was unsalvageable.

Why not just capture and abandon all the 3-4 size colonies? Seems like a valid strategy

>>16887830

I have done this. Fuck that Hegemony shithole.

QUICK I NEED A COOL NAME FOR MY FACTION

>>16887830

oh dont abadon. just give it to the independents, or some faction you want to improve relations with.

that'll increase the overall market size profits

the more shitty planets other faction own… the more customers you got

>>16887833

Do Independents have schizo behavior changes in Nex? I might soft ally myself with them if not.

>>16887834

i always give 1-2 shitball planets like this (or empty planets i dont want) to independents in any sector i own

they increase consumers market size

they send out patrols in sector / hyperspace to fight pirates

they don't claim the sector and demand tribute

when your sector is having pirate activity…they actually POST A BOUNTY ON THEIR LOCAION!

>>16887839

That's actually a pretty spicy strategy. Is there a situation where you'd want to set up an autonomous colony?

>>16887848

ya i grant autonomy to fresh new colonies

upgrade the spaceport, set it freeport then build a medical centre, pump max money into growth incentives, queue the rest of the buildings.

so i don't have to take that mismanagement penalty while i wait for it to be size 5-6, at which point i'd actually start to give a shit about

>Playing with nexerelin and skilledup

>Making nice amount of money from colonies and exploring

>Suddenly hear the noise for losing reputation and game crashes

>Happens no matter what so I try a different save

>Get to around same point and now when the new month happens game crashes

>Deleted mod folder, reinstalled mods, and tried again

>Same shit

Am I just completely fucked?

>>16887863

u might need to read the .log file and figure out what is actually causing the crash

or seek help on the Fractal Softworks Forums

>>16887848

also any high hazard rating colonies that i barely make profits on

and resource gathering colonies that i only needed the in-faction supply

or a filler colony on an empty planet in my sector i don't give 2 shits about, it increase the local accessibility slightly i think

or u can setup one up in an empty sector just to block pirate spawns lol

>>16887872

Just reinstalled the entire game and it works. The log file made it seem like the game kept trying to load some pirate hulls that it couldn't find, though the event it kept crashing at was a failed rebellion.

>>16887974

keep the desert / arid / frozen worlds

when you have lotsa money later you can terraform them with Boggled's Terraforming Mod

>>16887994

Oh, I'm just playing vanilla + Nex

>>16887974

turning colonies over to independent is something I also like to do, you keep max faction so Freeport is buddies, you gain access to shops and you have allies in all systems you work in, it seem like independents faction doesn't go down randomly either (maybe)? i like the idea of making the whole sector either cherries you keep or independent allies, good luck anon.

>>16888072

im starting to sprinkle shitball empty planets with pirates in the core worlds just for the hell of it lol

anyone ever had games where pirates overrun the core worlds?

>>16872462

Is a new version out?

>>16888874

nay

>>16888874

that depends on what you consider a new version tbh, there was a big update about 4 months ago.

>Never use Gunnery control AI

>throw it on to see how it works

This makes shit weapons kinda viable, how did I turn my nose up at this for so long.

>>16889413

>Gunnery Control AI

+%velocity get slow moving high damage HE shots on target easier.

-%recoil means that needler becomes a pinpoint stream full burst

really useful for long range artillery ships if you like pin-point snipe. or dealing with pesky fighters/frigates.

>Big fleet rolls up to 4-star battlestation

>Yeah I can probably take it

>I'll just wait for these single ship picket fleets to fuck off

>They move in to engage me, don't do the combat because literally beside the orbital platform

>THE FLEET HARASSES YOUR SHIPS AS YOU DISENGAGE BUT DOES NOT CAUSE ANY HARM

>This is literally a kite and some other shit

>My entire fleet, including two capitals, loses 15% CR each time this happens

>Suddenly down to 50% CR and have to spend over 400 supplies to repair everything

I've owned this game for a few years but put it on my backlog. Is this one you should play vanilla a bunch before jumping into mods?

>>16889424

It's kinda dumb how this works. If one group engages your battlestation then thateffectively removes the battlestation from the reinforcement list. I got into the habit of engaging first right before they reach my battlestation. This way it becomes me and my station against them.

>>16889426

Give vanilla a run before you mod, and when you get bored just pile them on

>>16889426

I would recommend playing vanilla because there's a lot to learn, and after you've played it a bunch, then you can have a good idea of what parts of it work for you what doesn't, and then grab mods to extend your favorite bits.

If you haven't played it yet, you start with a small fleet and while it's a sandbox, you want to earn as much money as possible so you can do other shit. You can raid planets, set up colonies, do bounties, be a surveyor or trader, etc. Colony management tends to be mid-late game and your goals are whatever you want them to be, but most people(?) tend to just kill one or all factions and call it a day.

Combat is one of the best parts but it has a bit of a learning curve. But once you figure it out, it's very satisfying. Lots of ship mods in the community. In particular, I like Nexerelin, which adds 4X elements to the game, and makes the world feel a little more lively, and lets factions try to expand naturally.

I finally decided to give Yuri a try expecting to get some super broken weapons, instead I get to smuggle weeb paraphernalia onto wartorn colonies because that's apparently very profitable.

>>16889426

I started heavily modded and I honestly wouldn't recommend that, the game already throws a lot at you without mods and since you're actually expected to make good decisions based on what the game throws at you having a complete wall of fuckery that uses even more complex mechanics than the base game isn't exactly a good thing, if you don't mind the difficulty wall by all means go ahead though.

>get intel on supply caches, extensive ruins, similar intel

>find said stashes

>the notification never leaves and continues cluttering my intel screen

curse my autism

Is there a reason the friendly AI will sit right in front of you when you are trying to engage a ship?

This goes double if its a capital fight and its a friendly frigate with full flux. I just watched one of my destroyers sit between me and an onslaught despite there being plenty of space to the left. I jiggled in place and it matched me. Predictably it died.

>>16872622

>3-5 outdated as fuck Hegemony battlecruisers

>Superfleet

Those ships are large but they're about the shittiest/cheapest ships in that class. Your Doom cruiser is one of the most OP ships in the entire game because you can phase in and shit out somewhere around 5 massive AOE bombs with virtually no risk before phasing back out.

>>16873156

Thanks for the laugh, although I always thought there was a significant risk of Tri-Tach ramming a cock down my throat if I ran with the Alphacore, so I never did it for pragmatic reasons.

>>16873965

>Diable Avionics

Very Japan-inspired with the mecha (I believe they are actually called Wanzers in a nod to Front Mission), but they are a ton of fun to play. The wanzers are extremely effective and will bully the fuck out of lighter ships with massive firepower (for their size) and great maneuverability.

>>16874001

There is actually an autistically curated mod list thread in the Starsector forums which will rate each faction mod based on theme and balance, amongst other criteria, if you want to check that out. They are pretty accurate.

>>16889433

>>16889457

>>16889446

Alright, thanks Anons!

>>16889646

Which ships do you use in your fleet? because its a fucking nightmare to support with supplies, and the ai isn't really good for me.

>>16889646

doom is great to insta kill incoming fighter swarms with mines… couldn't find much else use for it.

but Harbinger (StarlightCabal variant) is hands-down one of the most OP ships in the game if you spec it for speed, flux cap and burst dmg. it's special ability Quantum Disruptor overloads a ships shield and weapon for 2 seconds is OP AF combined with phase tech

>phase fast enough to catch a fukin frigate then 1hko it

>can go right through frontal shield ships and surprise butseks their naked engine pipes

>supreme battlefield situational and maneuvering abilities to catch a fleeing ship on low-hull

>can Omae-wa-mou-shindeiru an Ordos battleship's shield just before the 20x bomber torpedoes hit

>phase out behind a ship wreck and safely vent in the middle of a battle

>dupe ass purple paint job to lure enemy fire

in the hands of a capable player it can single-handedly change a battle's outcome.

>>16889937

if supplies is a problem for ur phase ships grab the lv3 d-mod skills and mix-n-match your d-mods with Efficiency Overhaul

a 5-supplies-a-pop harbinger spam is hilariously OP to shield heavy fleets

… and pretty scary even to my endgame fleet

>>16890597

So the supply cost to deploy seems to be based on what the ship's stat is. What determines the maximum supplies/battle (eg the high number on the bar?). Does that mean having efficiency and D-mods will actually let you pop out more ships?

>>16890675

no the deploy points that determine how many ships you can send out per battle is fixed to their original deploy/supply cost number

(i don't think anything can change that)

efficiency overhaul simply lower the supply/month maintenance and fuel/jump

while d-mods (with the lv.3 skills) lower the supply cost to maintenance/month and the repair cost in supplies ( to regain CR ) after battle is over, assuming u took 0 armor/hull damage. and the % STACKS.

>Ai fleets run with 7 cruisers plus all the fixns

>I can only deploy like a single ship

I need to have a bigger fleet don't I?

>>16890597

>harbringer

I oneshot onslaughts with that shit, fun times.

>>16891042

If I settle different systems, will they still count as in faction imports, even if they are very far apart?

>>16891938

Yes, I think the game abstracts that.

I THINK.

>Faction tries invading my main worlds with 3 "very strong" fleets

>For a measly 2 million credits, I get around 12 large defense fleets

I didn't expect to get more then 3 fleets, but can't complain watching the enemy fleets start to retreat and get raped in 10 seconds flat.

Ship procurement from the new Nex version is some pretty good shit

Time to get an army of Vale, Songbirds and Yukikaze

>>16891938

I'm not 100% about far but I've had 3 colonies in 3 systems on a bad playthrough and yeah imports inside the faction still works but the downsides are quite large, starting from ability to defend, how pirates can have an individual base dedicated to one of each of your systems etc

What are the best bombers against stations? I was thinking Piranha because they can't move out of the way.

>>16891987

Longbow + Kopesh for cover and PD interference, it's not so much that they'll do more damage but they will neuter the station completely and the rockets will still wear out sections over time on top of sabots not being useless against things that aren't shields you do need something else to do the cleanup usually, preferably said something has a tachyon lance or reapers.

It's less effective against low tech if they have a lot of fast AoE PD and specifically star fortress because they have armored bits in front of the sections.

It's a good enough combo that even mods really don't have much that can outdo it besides longbows + whatever better rocket bomber (although some have kinetic rockets and that works differently in practice).

>>16891987

because ships are so slow and shit, i feel range on weapons, fighters and bombers is an extremely important consideration, especially as lazy as i am controlling battles.

I just did a star fortress and yeah I can see the Kopesh and longbow being more useful. Longbow will not only bring down shields but the sabots can overload weapon mounts and the kopesh will at least strip the armor off so you can start damaging the armored layers.

>>16892055

It's especially good if you support that with Legions XIV fitted with Hurricane MIRVs and HVDs

>>16892074

How do you get blueprints for that? How do you get blueprints in general? I am playing nex and I feel like if I'm going to go through the trouble of taking out a station then I'm just going to take over the planet.

>>16891987

against stations?

swarm of Flash Bombers with purple mines

they are drones so no pilot loss

if u can get the shield somewhat high fluxed they can overload then kill a module in 1 pass, depending on numbers

against star fortresses staying at range with fighter/bomber swarms is a bad idea becuz of station's teleport phase mine

>>16892104

with nex you basically have to explore a lot of [[redacted]] shit. talk to the dude in the bar that leads you to the red planet for some plans. (my current game that got me a paragon and oddysey bp) otherwise find outposts, survey ships and motherships. – i've been told you can get plans raiding military faction bases but i don't usually get anything good, maybe someday.

>>16892104

>>16892131

oh and prism freeport if you talk to the station commander he will offer to trade blueprints at a loss, so like 3 capitals bps for 1 bp out.

>>16892104

You don't ,Legion XIV are only present as preset derelicts, usually all in the same nebula but sometime there's 2 nebulas with a set of them, one is always recoverable with no Dmods and you can get up to 6 if you're lucky but usually 3 - 4, they're surprisingly goo compared to the regular one

You get BPs from looting ruins, caches, mining stations, habitats, research stations and exceptionally rarely from looting hyperspace derelicts.

You can also get them from raiding planets with heavy industries (BPs will correspond to the faction and there's an exceptionally rare BP set you can only get that way by raiding hegemony)

With Nex you can use the Prism Freeport BP exchange function (talk to the admin of the station, use the console cmmand mods if you forgot to set that on at the start of your game), there's also a handful of faction mods that add buyable BPs (which you can then use to game the BP exchange), there's another one that adds a boss faction which sometime drops BP if you destroy their bases / capships and there's one that pretty much just allows you to exchange credits for BPs.

>>16892109

Flash are good but only if you have no mods adding good kinetic PD and since they only drop very rarely from [REDACTED] it's a fucking pain in the ass to get enough of them and usually if you can farm those guys a station isn't even an issue.

>>16892757

whats with you and your blue lobster addictions doge?

>grab terraform mod

>turn a frozen planet into water planet

>do the mod mission to learn the ancient secrets of bikinibottom

>seed the water planet with lobsters

>????

>profit

>>16893115

It's a self-sufficient and retardedly defensible system in the middle of everything with good income, bad capitals, and no allies. The lobsters are just a bonus.

>>16893529

i thought u were after them sweet sweet lobsters

>I took the planet just so i can larp my fleet gets unlimited lobster buffet at mess hall

>>16898479

>Friendly ship dropping mines

>Weaker friendly ship goes right into it and blows up

I sometimes wonder if the devs made it so enemy spies can pilot your ships.

>>16898479

>ship I'm piloting is about to die

>figure enemy ships don't want to fly into one of my beam boats' firing lines

>beams are supposed to stop firing instantaneously

>tiny corner of my ship gets lasered enough to warm up a hot pocket

>explode

Not sure what I was expecting.

Is there a trick for finding admins with skills? I've been trying to check every planet for admins and so far I've yet to find any with any skills at all, much less one with my two preferred Level 3 skills.

Alpha Cores do not count.

>>16900183

Be the admin you want to have.

>>16898856

Yeah, I think I made like 1.6m credits just by doing that once.

test

Here, have Galatia Complete 1.4, a music collection:

http://0x0.st/iu4q.zip

Because absolutely fuck copyright spergs.

>>16902424

>Because absolutely fuck copyright spergs.

The autism on this forum is pure cringe. Whenever I read anything there I want to give up.

>http://0x0.st/iu4q.zip

I'm not touching that link, though.

Do expeditions scale inevitably upwards, regardless of how big or small your colony is?

Like if I have a tiny colony that just barely went over the market share threshold, will the expeditions they get increase in size even if the colony doesn't? Or do you only get bigger expeditions if your colony has a requisite output that creates a really high market share, combined with things like Free Ports?

Or what if you deliberately kneecap your colony to make production go down? Will the expeditions stop or get smaller?

How do you make a mod that makes minor changes to the starfarer.api? (Changing numbers around.) I've tried making a jar file and having a mod point to it but as far as I can tell the mod does nothing.

>>16906030

Aw fuck me, they have an orbital station and I don't have a combat fleet yet

>found 0 synchrotron cores last playthrough

>have 4 already and barely searched at all this time

Guess I'm Saudi Arabia now.

>>16879964

>>16879867

>>16872504

Tri-Tach AI never went completely out of control. Even now, the Remnants are still "neutral" to Tri-Tach and still believe they are following Tri-Tach orders. The "AI Wars" were literally Tri-Tach vs Hegemony.

However, it's possible that the AIs already control TT, so that would make it a moot point whether or not the AIs have broken free of TT since they would be "free" either way.

>new nex version allows you to steal ships from faction fleet doctrine

>one of the vayra colonial faction can after a while use [REDACTED] in their fleets

>>16906350

>However, it's possible that the AIs already control TT

The faction description for TT says their corporate structure is frequently rearranged in such a way that it could be considered a form of AI, so probably

>>16906795

I wouldn't doubt an AI has the Hegemony by the balls or at least a planet. If you look at some of the Admin skills for their officers some of them are a 3/3/3 split.

I want to do a themed/roleplayed run (Nex) but I like the difficulty that Spacer has to start with. Even if I plan to join LP for example, my start is always the same where I rush to get Transverse Jump, do a bunch of trade missions, and then set up a colony after salvaging a bit. Everything else just feels ineffective

>>16907001

Yeah that's my biggest problem with the game is how easy it is to skip large parts of it with a few good trades or lucky salvages. I'd like to see a mod where heavy cruisers and capitals are substantially rarer and more expensive.

>>16907049

Actually I started another new game and it was a fairly small core world, but nobody had Cyro (so no 30-60$ harvested organs) so it was a much slower start. Volatiles are still at 500k+ MV so it'll be lucrative later on.

I decided to start as a neutral miner. Since Nex lets you mine planets and asteroids I thought I'd give it a try in earnest. It's pretty decent once you get it going and from 2% of a planet's ore, I got about 8,000 worth of credits, enough to fulfill some early contracts and avoid getting fucked by Spacer's fees. What I really love is that Shepherds are the go-to ship for both that and surveying, which is great, because I love using them.

>>16907319

all those d mods

why bother except for any 14s

>>16907427

Some people like to throw hordes of trash ships at the enemies as if they were roleplaying pirates, because they never learned the lesson from the actual pirates about how poorly that goes. Personally I don't think ships like that are worth the cost/effort of arming, let alone the supply/fuel cost to fly with and deploy them, even at a discount.

>>16907427

Entirely depends on what those Dmods are, especially since Vayra adds a bunch that are not really all that bad but still incur the lowered maintenance and recovery cost.

>>16907526

Pretty hard to find a ship with 4 dmods that doesn't have something that dramatically affects its combat performance. That's especially true with low tech ships that rely on armor and hull. At least with high tech you can focus on shields, speed and weapons and if your ship has reduced armor/hull it may not affect anything unless it was going to die anyway.

No, it's pretty obvious those are cannon fodder ships that are going to wind up costing more than they earn.

>>16907601

>Pretty hard to find a ship with 4 dmods that doesn't have something that dramatically affects its combat performance.

See those Eagles?

>Compromised Armor

>Compromised Hull

>Erratic Fuel Injector

>Unreliable Subsystems (depends, but you can deal without it for mid game engagement)

>Structural Damage

>Degraded Engines (if you have an Onslaught you don't care about that)

With the perks, still would use that in some cases because you don't need any of that shit with an HVD + Ion beam build, don't need armor / hull because you're gonna be shield tanking and be as far as possible from anything that can harm you.

With Vayra there's also

>Inoperative Automated Sytems (need more crew)

>Non-compliant Gunnery Core (slightly less accurate with guns)

Which are also basically not an issue with that build.

Similar deal with that Shrike, don't need hull or armor it already dies like nothing anyway and you're most likely piloting it yourself

Faulty power Grid or Glitched sensor array even alone and I'd trash either though (unless maybe Shrike SO with Glitched sensor array but I don't like SO builds)

For the others I dunno not used to using them enough

>>16907049

>Yeah that's my biggest problem with the game is how easy it is to skip large parts of it with a few good trades or lucky salvages

That's part of the appeal in my opinion. It makes each of your characters have a different story. One save file might be the story of a space hobo salvager who struck it rich and now controls the colony with the highest antimatter fuel production in the known galaxy, while another might be a Hegemony fleet admiral that has been fighting the same war for 6 years with no resolution in sight

>>16907624

Compromised Hull, Armor, AND structural damage? So completely unusable, blows up whenever somebody sneezes in the general direction.

Those were exactly the dmods I was talking about. If they were on high-tech, shield-focused ships it might be workable. Still a high risk that I wouldn't really want in my fleet, but at least they might actually get shit done. Also Erratic Fuel Injector is probably the worst of the lot. Increasing fuel costs when fuel requirements are already outrageous is a hard-no.

>>16907689

> If they were on high-tech, shield-focused ships it might be workable

An eagle has 0.61 efficiency shield with hardened shield, it's entirely viable as a shield tank.

Mostly I was excited to scavenge a bunch of shit with no risk to myself, and from a populated area. Legion was a XIV mod as well. Mostly, I look at weapon mounts as the primary reason to consider a ship.

Something like the pirate Colossus isn't interesting to me because it lacks shields, meaning it will likely result in crew losses when its armor fails in combat, and it has a ton of small ballistic slots, nothing really interesting with it.

>>16907754

>High tech is best tech

While I agree with you, couldn't one make the argument that energy weapons are a crutch since you don't have to think about weaknesses and effective damage types?

>>16907762

Really your choices of energy weapons are autopulse for efficiency and anti-shield, and plasma for throughput and anti-armor. Beam niggers can get fucked. The appeal of high tech is shields, flux and speed. I'd love a high tech ship with good large ballistics.

>>16907800

What's wrong with beams?

>Cool

>Usually fucks hull so it's good for PD

>Long range

>Makes AI fuck off because suppression forces them to keep shields up and not drain flux when under fire from other weapons

>>16907754

I love Odysseys, I rolled with 4 of them in my fleet and it's my biggest ship most of the time, anything bigger is overkill.

>>16907852

Best beams aren't vanilla, shit like Nano Needlers, Neutron Lance, ESPADA repeater etc, hell frag damage beams in general are really damn good.

The Tach lance is pretty cool if you can build hardflux in some way though and the phase lances can work well if you don't have anything better for a strike weapon.

>>16907754

I tried really hard to like those, something about my idea of a loadout made it ass in the AIs hand, granted that might also have to do with it being not as great vs mod stuff, DP wise it barely ever felt worth it against deploying say a Legion or a number of mod battlecruiser.

Might revisit now that I found a mod with a large energy kinetic weapon that can actually build hardflux

>>16907800

>I'd love a high tech ship with good large ballistics.

SWP adds a buffed Odyssey with large universals (or Hybrid or something, point is it can mount ballistics)

>>16907762

Energy is usually too inefficient to make it a straight upgrade and the best few energy damage weapons really want some sort backup from kinetic, even the Autopulse.

But you're right it can become brutally overpowered if someone where to for some reason make energy damage torpedo that cost no flux to fire for example.