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Almost nothing for fort mode

>Can pet animals in adventure mode

Lol, it's fucking nothing. Niggerfrog stop developing adventard mode.

>>16823957

Did he add more tranny stuff?

>>16823966

Damn anon you're fast.

I was just about to ask that too.

Also when the steam release coming out so I can pirate it?

I can't stand looking at the graphics of the original game.

>>16823957

>Tranny Dwarves are not possesed by evil spirits of a dead lizard people, put in fel moods to craft bone armor and use alchemy to make rudimentary hormone replacement potions

After playing more roguelikes, i can articulate why i don't like the game as much. Its the cursor. You do a lot of movement, selection etc, while other games are centered around one entity.

Also the tranny shit isnt bad per se because you can segregate them and starve them or do whatever fun things to them. Remember when they removed the ability to make merfolk skull totems? Mod stuff in and get fucking creative.

>>16823966

No.

These will be added around medical revision, probably.

>>16823975

Just get Lazy Newb Pack after it get updated.

Around in few weeks or so.

Anyone tried that mushroom kingdom mod? I saw a kruggsmash video on it and I'm not sure but it looked kind of interesting.

>>16823957

>Aquifer nerfs

Oh come on.

>>16824037

I never tried out the game before.

I hope that its fun.

>>16824079

Whats the problem anon???

The game in that case, will still be free, wont it?

I just like the look of the steam version thats all.

>>16824085

Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom is really fun. I almost never play dorf fort without it.

>>16824091

>almost never

Interesting. It doesn't appear to have been updated in a while but fine by me.

>>16824095

I recommend rolling Koopa and going on a genocide crusade. Just don't forget to build a hospital very, very fast.

>>16824104

Hot tip. I liked how brutal it actually seemed from that video I watched.

>>16824202

If you think degeneracy started in the 20th century Ive got news for ya.

>>16824202

Sounds like a good way to generate bastard children with a claim to a throne.

>>16824219

Nice strawman.

>>16824268

Fuck off commie homo

>>16824320

The real magic was the cuckoldry we had along the way!

>>16823990

>Also the tranny shit isnt bad per se

It sets an unhealthy precedent. The fact that you can use it for memes and outrage fuel is just a loophole that will be fixed.

>>16824332

>>16824332

I'm just trying to cope with every vidya game getting pozzed and destroyed. WC3 remaster shows that even classics aren't safe, indies titles are taking the pozpill, and new games are broken out of the gate

>>16824320

Either in 2024 or by using mods.

tranny dwarves

>>16823957

What interesting patch notes. I can't wait to turn off all of the new features and take a baseball bat to the settings and beat the game into a crippled state so that I can actually play it at a reasonable frame rate, since polyamory was a higher priority than multithreading.

I shouldn't struggle to play an ascii game with one of the most powerful CPUs on the market, yet here we are.

>>16824598

Are you saying you can't play video games without steam, anon?

>>16824083

>playing video games

Can you get kobold refugees when going on Raids? I somehow got a goblin poet running around my fort and I want a Kobold to keep him company.

>>16824807

>multithreading at this point is not possible without rewriting most of the code.

Okay, so do that. There’s literally no fucking excuse for this bullshit 13 years after the commercial adoption of multithreading. Every computer of any note that is still running has multiple cores and uses multithreading. This has to be fixed.

>>16825052

Toady is more interested in implementing alphabet community dwarves than actually fixing his game.You're better off just waiting for the steam remake, if the game is even worth bothering with at this point.

>>16825072

Distances are abstracted. Also, you didn't jog 100 yards, you sprinted it. I used to do football sprints and that shit is exhausting.

>>16825072

The game's probably balanced, if it's actively balanced at all yet with regard to that, for fortress mode.

>>16825067

>Remake

It's probably just an up to date version of the game with a new tileset.

>>16825067

I can’t see DF dying off (except through political shit like this). I love the concept of DF; no other game I’ve found has its depth, complexity, or style. Some variations are fun (Rimworld, for example), but I’d really like to play DF because no one else seems to be autistic enough to actually model everything that it does. If I’m wrong, let me know. I want to play a game like it that doesn’t have its hang ups. It’s just that it barely runs at all on my 8 (physical) core processor because the autist doesn’t care about the last decade and a half of computing. And that’s just pathetic.

>>16824807

>because multithreading at this point is not possible without rewriting most of the code

It would obviously not be easy, but unless it happens, the game is only going to be less and less playable as more half-baked features are added in. The longer he waits, the more painful it is going to be to add. If it never happens, the game isn't even worth working on at this point, and he's just harvesting donations from people who haven't seen the writing on the wall.

>Theres shit you could offload to threads

The second best alternative would be just to tack things like temperature, pathfinding, and other fort-mode calculations. That would be a lazy solution that would also make forts significantly more playable.

>>16825337

>It would take several years

It could take two decades and it'd still be a required task. Updating fort mode is pointless when I have to cut my population, embark on an undersized chunk of land, never play with any liquids, disable caverns, disable temperatures, disable cave-ins, and use third-party tools to help clean/decompose excess items. I spend more effort deliberating on the frame rate impact of an action than whether actions are fun or fit what should probably happen. I've never been desperate enough to use that mod that removes all the material types and compresses everything into a generic material, but I've considered it. I've also considered going back and playing 40d on an i9, just to see if I could actually make progress.

And it's frustrating as all hell, because I want to play the game. It's actually a good game. But the chief issues are mechanics that don't fully function and the game not being playable while utilizing even half of the game's features. Military storage from the 2014 update still doesn't function to this very day, and frame rate death is the ending of the majority of my own forts, but Toady sits down and spends weeks coding fucking polyamory. It makes me question why I even care about the game.

>>16825360

did toady ever say anything about making it open source? it's free anyway so people would still keep paying him for development - except now all the people the game attracts could actually contribute their weaponized autism.

>>16825360

>I've also considered going back and playing 40d on an i9, just to see if I could actually make progress.

I can play 150 dorfs, 4x4 embark at 80 FPS on an i7 from an NVME no problem, current version. Make a RAM disc and its even faster. Good luck not using DFHack or the rapist.

>It could take two decades and it'd still be a required task.

Read the rest of the fucking post you dumb. By the time he would rewrite the entire dorf code to multithread, we`ll have cache sizes to load the entire game into it.

>>16825377

Source will be released when he dies, unless there's reason to believe he was killed to get the source.

I'm not even kidding

>>16825396

ah, vaguely remember something in that regard. on one hand makes sense if he just wants to do his own shit without having to deal with others, even if it would improve the game. otoh it's a surefire way to make people wish he'd die…

>>16823960

What a fucking joke. Almost as ridiculous as tranny dwarves.

>implying she doesn't suck gob cock with consent

>implying she will ever be loyal to you

That's why you gotta date girls that aren't women. Because all women are whores.

This thread was mistake.

>dwarfy thread

>no dwarfy, only rape

Hello and goodbye

>>16825557

goblins don't have sperm, they have spores

>>16825360

>I spend more effort deliberating frame rate impact

EXACTLY. I have that same problem with Rimworld at high enough populations (but it’s “not designed” to have high population) or when attempting to run an FOB concurrent to my main base (for exterminating all raider settlements from the map).

>I want to play the game. It's actually a good game. But the chief issues are mechanics that don't fully function and the game not being playable while utilizing even half of the game's features.

FUCKING FINALLY. Someone else shares my problems and desires. I was beginning to think that I was “entitled” for wanting a game that wasn’t designed for the Apple ][.

>>16825379

>writing code contingent on CPU cache size

>this side of the fucking millennium

Look. I’m the last person to call for loose code. I still remember the late ‘80s and early ‘90s when I could look at a piece of developed software and be stunned at how beautiful it was despite having to deal with no more than a 256 byte (yes) cache and 2 megs of RAM. But this isn’t that. Toady doesn’t have hardware restrictions causing him to make the game single threaded. When he started development, he didn’t even have hardware restrictions that caused him to rely on CPU cache. There was no excuse for it then, and there’s sure as shit not one now. And look, cache sizes have been roughly doubling roughly every 5 years. How big is DF? Because there’s no way you’re loading the game into cache in less time than it would take to rewrite the damn thing the way it should have been the first time.

imagine crying this hard over variations of dwarves in your fantasy autism simulation. the mere EXISTENCE of them.

>>16825072

I have a feeling game programmers aren't exactly good references for physical pursuits, so by programmers reference 100 yards is a feat of great endurance for a fat programmer guy.

>>16825557

>

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>>16825316

Well, there IS a steam remake in the works, though the jury's out on how long that will take. I personally just moved onto greener pastures when Toady started sperging out and blocking critics, I drift from roguelike to roguelike these days now.

The fact of the matter is, however incompetent the optimization and groundwork for the game, the guy has dumped decades into developing this game, and there's just not many games on the market with that kind of constant development. In searching for a substitute, you're likely going to have to make a compromise of quality vs. detail. If you're willing to be flexible with that tradeoff, it's entirely possible to find a game that offers comparable if not superior quality overall, albeit one that does not contain every feature you'd ideally prefer. If you're willing to make that compromise, it's worth finding a better game. If not, well I'm afraid you're stuck with Drag Queen Story Hour: Dwarf Edition.

>>16827032

Is it a real “remake” or is it just “the steam version” with a built in tileset? And how is it being “remade” if Toady refuses to release the code?

>>16827038

I have no earthly idea. I thought I'd heard it was going to be a complete remake, but maybe it is just going to be a glorified graphical overhaul. Are they seriously unable to commit to a release date for a glorified fucking resource pack? So much for that particular point of optimism.

I stand by my previous comment about abandoning Dwarf Fortress being the more prudent option at this point.

i think it's gonna be a new way for graphics to be rendered and processed as a whole, making it possible for more variation

>>16825377

>implying anyone would be able to interpret his autism code

>>16827370

Note also the complete lack of an argument and the appeal to platitudes it doesn’t even understand.

>>16826992

>imagine

Truth is beyond the realm of its comprehension. It cannot even fathom the concept of anyone holding any views other than its ✡orthodoxy✡, as presented to it by its masters.

>crying

Infantilization of opponents in an attempt to delegitimize beliefs.

>this hard

Implying (erroneously) that any degree of deviation from its ✡orthodoxy✡ would be allowed.

>variations

Implying that faggots and trannies are equal to sane people.

>fantasy

Implying that any objection to the existence of faggots and trannies should be handwaved simply because this is a “constructed world” where the objections “wouldn’t exist.”

>autism

Yes, of course DF is autistic, but here the word is being used specifically to insult and demean anyone against the ✡orthodoxy✡.

>mere

Implying that faggots and trannies aren’t a public health risk, a net tax drain, and an existential threat to themselves and others in the society.

>existence

And finally, implying that faggots and trannies have EVER cared simply about “existing” alongside real people. All faggots and all trannies publicly call for the genocide of that which is natural. A disease doesn’t have the right to exist. A disease has no rights at all.

>>16828215

I haven't dealt with them, no. Is that the "heavy" aquifer or just a regular one? Heavy aquifer is supposed to be equivalent to the old style, so I can't imagine that the old aquifer-piercing tactics wouldn't work with them. Unless, that is, Toady changed the water propagation mechanics when he made the aquifer changes.

>>16828257

The embark screen said it was the light variation, it seems to be much more like pockets in swiss cheese or something along with slower flowing.

>>16828281

It's not exactly an uncommon opinion around these parts, and the IDs aren't helping because they hint at the same not-so-anon making multiple other serious posts in the thread.

Or maybe not, they could all be 6 different anons using the same VPN, or even one anon posting normally and another who spoofed his ID to troll.

>>16828302

Typical gay ops, likely one homo attempting to consensus crack, nobody is going to get less tired of their shit.

>>16828281

>>>/reddit/

Kill yourself, subhuman.

> “Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there–because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that’s a lie. The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change. And again, I don’t think it should exist.” ~ ✡Masha Gessen✡, lesbian activist; interview; 2013

>The gay community has never in my lifetime put children first as anything other than a piece of property, a past mistake, or a political tool to be dressed up and taken out as part of a dog-and-pony show to impress the well-meaning… Neither my mother nor her partner worked although they were ‘active in Gay Liberation causes’ and this was very important work. The partner drank an entire bottle of alcohol a night. My mother did not drink as she was more progressive and preferred whatever drug was in style. Drugs were plentiful in the gay community and no stigma was attached to them and they were taken openly. Meals were infrequent and when they were made they were either burnt or raw. I weighed 80 lbs. at age 16. But perhaps the hardest aspect was the fact that I had to pay constant homage and attention to their gayness. ~ ✡B. N. Klein✡; amicus brief excerpt from his torture by faggots

> “When we institutionalize same-sex ‘marriage’… we move from permitting citizens the freedom to live as they choose to promoting same-sex-headed households. Now we are normalizing a family structure where a child will always be deprived daily of one sex’s influence and the relationship with at least one natural parent. Our cultural narrative becomes one that, in essence, tells children that they have no right to the natural family structure or their biological parents, but that children simply exist for the satisfaction of adult desires.” ~ Katy Faust; amicus brief excerpt from her torture by faggots

> “We must aim at the abolition of the family, so that the sexist, male supremacist system can no longer be nurtured there.” ~ Gay Liberation Front Manifesto; 1971

> “Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex and family, and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society… We must keep our eyes on the goal… of radically reordering society’s views of reality.” ~ Paula Ettelbrick; National Gay and Lesbian Task Force; 1987

> “[Transsexuality is] part of a larger agenda we are seeing across the country with bills attempting to give government officials the power to unconstitutionally censor the speech of licensed mental health professionals, usurp their professional judgment, and take away the right of parents to raise and care for their children.” ~ Nicole Theis, Delaware Family Policy Council president & executive director; Statesman Journal; May 2, 2017

> “If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual… then I would not call it pathological in any way.” – ✡John Money✡, guy who created trannies

> “Pedophilia should be a part of the gay movement. It must be legally recognized as a wider sexual liberation.” ~ Gary Dowsett, deputy director of the Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health, & Society (ARCSHS); Gay Information, issue 11, p. 34

> “The ultimate goal of the gay liberation movement is the achievement of sexual freedom for all–not just equal rights for lesbians and gay men, but also freedom of sexual expression for young people and children.” ~ David Thorstad, NAMBLA spokesman; Male Intergenerational Intimacy; 1991

>>16828302

>truth is a matter of opinion

Oh look, a torpedo lying. Again.

>>16828753

dismissing all tards as 4d chess schemes is silly, usually an idiot is just an idiot

Want to talk dorfs again, twit? This sort of thing is very infectious. (You) thought bringing it to /v/ or /pol/ was some major orgasm.

Small number, for (you).

>>16828215

Is that a strip mine?

You should have 2-tile thick walls in between your tunnels, a 1-thick is redundant since the tunnels reveal all adjacent tiles anyways

The Dwarf Fortress 0.47.02 is out now

They fixed AI bug where babies were using their mothers as mounts.

Also 20 other bugs.

>>16836688

Bogeymen also got unspecified upgrades. I don't know if we're going to get those answers until the autists start actually playing the game and finding things out. I honestly have to wonder how Toady is going to decide when this overarching villainous plots thing is working as intended. I mean, is he going to think "not enough insurrections on level 5" and tweak some variable after playing a dozen games himself, or rely entirely on reading player stories, or just sorta throw it at the wall and move on to something else? It's getting to the point where some of those more esoteric power goal things might actually be realized, but is he just going to rely on them maybe being theoretically possible? It's just tough for me to imagine how something with scope like this gets fine tuned–myself, I'll run two or three worlds, look at legends, and it's just a bunch of nondescript wars and whatever. Although that one library that got burnt with some 10k artifact books being destroyed was kind of neat.

>>16836653

It's like I'm really playing Elona

>The site explodes before i can download the game

>>16826944

What you perceive as FPS death from a CPU clock bottleneck is actually latency from chache misses which is the actual bottleneck. Dwarf Fortress isn't even affected by CPU speed, making it faster through multi-threading won't change anything because the game is waiting on what is being written and fetched into the cache.

Even the steam version, which may actually rely on the CPU "the conventional" way would probably only be like how sound is handled, which would be on a separate thread from the rest of the game.

Oh yeah guess I should point out the sound is multi-threaded.

>>16840342

CPU cores generally have their own L1 cache, so even if cache misses are the only problem multithreading would still be a speedup. Not to mntion how your CPU generally processes other stuff if possible while waiting for cache, which is more likely to happen when multithreading.

>sound is multithreaded

It's nigh-impossible to not multithread sound, since it has to update at tens of thousands of "frames" per second compared to for instance 60 for graphics.

Also, Steam version is almost certainly only adding UI and the tileset they're making for it, plus tranny dwarves.

>>16837004

That's the problem with a math PhD deciding to become a programmer without learning basic computer science.

>>16840558

They're a planned feature for the Steam release.

>>16840558

Its a long story, TL;DR:

>faggotry is introduced

>marriage and breeding mechanics dont account for that

>result is dwarves and animals practically dont ever breed

>takes a long time to fix for some reason

and thus the ebin trannydwarf meme was born in the time when faggotry actually affected games on a mechanical level

fags are about 1% and bisexuals about 5% of sentient population, and technically also animal population but the tag is ignored for animals

it got revived lately because theres rumors of increasing the faggotry in coming updates, and Im sure someone will post a link to the specific roadmap entry if there actually is one

>>16836653

>babies were using their mothers as mounts

that wasn't a bug

>>16840572

https://twitter.com/Bay12Games/status/1107118932077346817

>>16840591

as long it's optional then good for programmer.

>>16823960

Adventure mode is a barely comprehensible dead-end, does ANYONE like it? Fort is literally the only thing worth a shit that he's put out and he's studiously ignored it for years.

>>16840709

>Simulating mental illness that has 0 gameplay effect

>good for programmer

Not in any sense of the word.

>>16840727

People mostly use adventurer mode to check out locations and people they're interested in from Legends mode, or to go see their own forts after they eat too much candy.

I also think some jewtuber storyteller-letsplayers use it to influence events for roleplay.

>>16840727

I enjoy it briefly with long intervals in between. There's nothing to do unless you make it yourself, but some of the autism scratches an aut-itch.

>>16840543

It all boils down to accessing memory. Its as follows RAM latency, RAM speed, cache size (you need at least an> 256 mb L3/L4 cache). In fact, assuming you did manage to commit the miracle of multi-threading without untangling the spaghetti code the game's speed would shoot up so high it would be unplayable from the Dwarves dieing before you could react, but that is just a neat hypothetical hopefully anyone who would seriously try and multi-thread Dwarf Fortress would throttle the calculations on purpose so that doesn't happen.

Fix your shit Codemonkey.

>>16840732

>geting heat up over shit like this

ok lib

Incidentally does anyone have any interesting Necromancy/Demonic experiments to post about yet?

>>16841868

Yeah I'm not sure what is going on with the mass number of Necromancers and Werecreatures in my migrant waves now. I think its a wee bit unsustainable, plus they keep resurrecting the dead.

>>16842938

Wereliggery has been ridiculous in my current game, its almost as if they spread their curse like vampires now because for every wereligger killed 3 wereliggers are created. Ive got a perfectly good fortress eating shit with -20 dorf waves of wereliggery to the point it seems pointless to even try playing a larger fort.

Also necros are ridiculously common to the point random skillless recruits are dropping meatballs uncontrollably and start resurrecting the entire corpse pile every time a honey badger enters LOS.

>>16843174

Weren't werefaggots pushed to late mid-game in recent update?

I thought you need at least 80 dwarfs for these to actually show up now.

These are reason why I always make fortified bunker above ground with few crossbow squads.

also what the fuck is a dismal butcher?

>>16843186

>what the fuck is a dismal butcher?

Necro made abomination/experiment.

Necros got major power boost in this version as even goblins can lose against them.

>>16843181

Propably 60 dwarves, but historical figures can also be werefaggots and negros. Last time I played werefaggots were pushovers, now if you get into melee with them you might as well exile your entire squad and half the fort with them.

>>16843187

Wew. So basically the last half an hour in my fort it was necros vs wereliggers all along.

>>16842938

Unintended consequences. Necros get a power boost, build bigger, spread books further, more people read the books, more necros. Or if it's not knock-on necros but the original ones, I dunno. But it's not surprising that they get tweaked and suddenly there's some butterfly effect shit with them showing up all over the place. It's got to be nearly impossible to get this enormous simulation even something like balanced without obsessive autistic testing.

>>16843181

Religions now have a power boost, so gods will curse people even more now. Including the 20+ gods your Dwarves worship.

>>16843328

It's kind of silly for them to throw curses like this, without any sort of counter measure though.

>>16843376

Well Necromancers at least can be controlled through the number of secrets value. If it's zero then no necro towers.

Update 0.47.03

Major bug fixes

Cleaned up equipment tracking issue for returning fort-mode raiders

Made historical spies drop possibly divisive cover identities when arriving as regular fort citizens

Stopped patients that have been in traction for a week from requiring diagnosis repeatedly

Made dwarves inside hospitals return to rest if rest is cancelled

Supported doctor's guildhall to fix broken petitions

Fixed freeze related to forbidding doors/hatches

Fixed crash related to starting modded fort mode critters with natural skills

Stopped crash related to artifacts/books placed on adv pack animals

Fixed crash related to deleting zones in adv mode site planning

Fixed unretirement crash in adv mode

Fixed bug causing you to become a different historical figure when unretiring

Fixed w.g. crash related to imprisonment by civilizations that have lost their capitals

Other bug fixes/tweaks

Allowed placement of altars in fort mode (they have no specific function yet)

Added person-seeking behavior to socialize activity and to jobless milling about in zones

Changed stress calculation for high vulnerability personalities

Made mummies control tombs more fully so allies couldn't call on zombies to fight themselves

Stopped mercenaries from being hired to attack their own forts

Fixed problem causing w.g. people to falsely befriend themselves for information

Fixed xml log for entities acquiring buildings

Fixed xml log for entities breaching the underworld

>>16845485

And there I was hoping there would be something about the amout of negros and wereliggers in there.

>>16845502

Toady knows about excessive amount of Negros and their pets trying to steal shit.

Not sure, what he can even do to tweak number of wereliggers though.

>>16835330

thanks anon

>>16845744

Welcome to Dwarf Fortress, your dorfs are idiots. Especially now that they'll commit embezzlement while the whole fortress is in the middle of being torn apart by a civil war between cursed werelizards, necromancers, and sometimes a vampire. And rain, fucking rain.

>>16845485

>Still no fix for childrearing horsemen.

Seriously toady I appreciate the Eraserhead-like metaphor for having children when you're not ready but approximately 50% of my fort's dwarves are female.

>>16846675

That was already fixed in 0.2 >>16836653

>>16825360

> Updating fort mode is pointless when I have to cut my population, embark on an undersized chunk of land, never play with any liquids, disable caverns, disable temperatures, disable cave-ins, and use third-party tools to help clean/decompose excess items.

> I spend more effort deliberating on the frame rate impact of an action than whether actions are fun

Yup, this is why I don't play DF anymore. Like, what is the fucking point of adding more and more stuff for the game to process if it can't handle what it already has? And why the second you bring this problem to the forums it gets immediately shut down?

It won't just go away on its own and instead of starting to finally tackle this problem, the 'genius' behind this game wants to waste working hours to please the 1% freaks that were never invested in the game to begin with and will probably play for 30min before dropping. What a sad joke.

>>16846753

oh.

neat.

>>16846769

Catsclysm DDA is objectively superior to df in every way, ESPECIALLY DEVELOPMENT.

>>16848113

Bullshit.

>>16848113

They aren't even in the same genre.

>>16848113

>apples are better than oranges!

>>16840591

>10 years later

>tens of thousands of dollars from SJWs

>trannies implemented at very low percent

>all other dwarves have a built in hatred for them

>shunned until they die

>41% suicide rate

I doubt he has the balls to do something like this though.

>>16848295

>>16848362

You can compare two different things, that's the entire point.

>>16848416

so how is Cataclysm better than Dorf Fort Anon?

>>16848416

Explain to me how Cataclysm's fortress mode is objectively better than DF's. I'll wait. No, you building an autism vehicle fort doesn't count.

>>16848113

CDDA, while less ambitious and consequently less demanding to start with, ABSOLUTELY DOES bog down due to completely embarrassing code architecture that was never intended to handle its current features.

Try turning on multiple simultaneous Z-levels, and read a book or sleep, the game will grind to a halt. Even playing too long will cause the game to slowly asphyxiate under its own girth, requiring a quit/reload to purge its convoluted Dbs like a modern web browser with multiple tabs open too long.

>>16848113

>>16848416

>ESPECIALLY DEVELOPMENT

CDDA is one giant mess of open source spaghetti coding, essentially anyone can add shit to CDDA via forks and if its popular enough and good enough then you can expect your contributions to merge with the main game and never be credited properly for it or properly bug tested to be fixed unless you volunteer to do it again. Its just like SpaceStation13, a monster born from a shitty outdated codebase but with such meticulous detail that nobody can port it over to anything better.

Toady's way of doing things is frustrating but it isn't because its the wrong way of doing it, its the fact that he is doing it by himself. All the meticulous and constant testing should be handled by multiple people but you should be doing meticulous multiple runs to make things work properly, multi-threading shouldn't even be on the table if you're not a good coder and Toady knows he isn't good enough so props to him, and the memory thing makes it more like those simulations they use for research which is fine because Toady explicitly is making a simulator and not a game.

Most of the hate for him now is pent up resentment for him relying on pop science magazines for statistics and turning into the same ilk that you'd find anywhere.

sorry for my noob, but it's so fucking annoying navigating random water pockets underground. Every fucking wall is damp and prevents me from digging deeper. This is without an aquifer. How do I deal with this? Is there a way to stop the "damp wall" warning cancelling my orders?

>>16851845

If youre new to the game, get the lazy newb pack. Its packaged with DFHack, which will make your life a lot easier, its packaged with Dwarf Therapist, which is an external UI that allows you to manage jobs in a much easier fashion, and it comes with a launcher that has all the .ini settings in a UI, of which "dangerous dig alert" is one.

Or just fix up the .ini manually.

>Finally decide to go in this balls deep

>Get Kruggsmash's Tileset

>Cock it up, learn my monitor/tablet or whatever the fuck this mutant bargain black friday piece of unresponsive bare minimun 64-bit piece of shit does not like DF fullscreen & can't seem to fix it- stuck with windowed mode

>Suffer through two lengthy tutorial youtube videos

>Understand I#m completely fucked if I can't get my dorfs underground in time

>Fucked ass tileset/sleecting an are dosn't flash like in the youtube videos, no idea why

>Can't build stairs to save my life

>Dwarves don't fucking listen to me

>Place some florring in my undergrounf established zone

>Utterly fucks the secondary pair of stairs to the fort

>Only one dwarf in there, the only miner who dosn't fuck off to fish for no reason despite me changing peoples jobs to ensure they don't bother with that useless profession

>Moving at a snails pace, press d and udesignate/remove construction- takes forever, dosn't seem to fix stairs, so underground is still unaccessible

The fuck is with the stairs in this? I just want to dig down for fucks sakes

>>16860247

First of all, good luck playing without at least an i5.

>Get Kruggsmash's Tileset

use Ironhand or Phoebus

>Fucked ass tileset/sleecting an are dosn't flash like in the youtube videos, no idea why

zones are selected with (i), stockpiles with (q)

>Can't build stairs to save my life

stairs consist of an upper and lower part, b C u if you wanna build a stair upwards, b C d if you wanna build a stair downwards, an upstair on a lower level must be connected to a downstair on an upper level, you can build stairs that go both ways but its more of a convenience because they fuck with pathfinding calculations in large forts

if you wanna DIG a stair out, d j for some reason, same logic applies

and remember, shit carved out of stone and earth is ALWAYS better than built

>Dwarves don't fucking listen to me

use Dwarf Therapist and make sure every critical job is handled (mining/woodcutting/carpentry/masonry/growing/cooking/mechanics/architecture/assorted crafting), go to (n)obles and designate a MANAGER, build a 3x3 room, put a chair, a table and a bed in it, assign to manager

when manager has a room, press j m q and type in whatever you want to have crafted

you want

<30 beds

<60 chairs/tables/coffers/cabinets/doors

<12 wheelbarrows

<60 rock blocks

<12 rock mechanisms

<30 wooden barrels, alternatively rock pots

<30 wooden bins

<60 rock statues

<perpetual cook

<perpetual brew

<perpetual process

<perpetual rock craft

and youre set for the first 2 seasons

>Place some florring in my undergrounf established zone

if the floor is made of stone, smooth it, only lay down floors on soil

>Utterly fucks the secondary pair of stairs to the fort

it probably got destroyed by the floor, just build a new one

>Only one dwarf in there, the only miner who dosn't fuck off to fish for no reason despite me changing peoples jobs to ensure they don't bother with that useless profession

if you had enough food they wouldnt fuck off to fish

>>16860247

There are a LOT of janky things in DF. The wiki has a decent explanation of stairs but you're going to hit up against unintuitive things one after another. You can't let it discourage you. It's more or less "learning curve: the game."

>>16848775

I always end up sealing them in a room, doomed to constantly resurrect and die forever.

Any news when the steam version will be launched?

>>16863745

Does it matter?

>>16863793

Kinda.

>>16824935

>start new world

>goblins invade and kill all my life stock (my primary investment)

>design high tech goblin removal device

>remove 2 more waves of goblins with ease

>suddenly goblins stop attacking

>goblin poets and shit coming to my inn

>nani the fuck

>send dorfs to attack

These fuckers drop good metal to feed my weapon/armour industry, peace is no longer an option.

>>16826865

>>16835524

this

>>16825557

goblin slayer is poop animu

>>16863893

When Villains is finished getting bug tested. So no ugly ass Steam tileset for you.

>>16840727

It's a decent rogulike in and of itself, but it's even more poorly balanced than fortress mode. Mass murder and monster slaying in adventure mode are surprisingly fun, but that's really all there is.

>>16874845

It's a decent boy's anus in and of itself

>>16865575

goblin slayer gave me AIDS

>>16848091

Hundred South Florida Fist!

>>16872026

villains was lined to be last major update before magic so sit tight buckeroo

>>16874929

Florida is for faggits.

>>16875041

All of them?

>>16875041

tranny dwarfs were more important.

My sieges are ending instantly (they pop in the map corner and leave instantly). Why are the undead so afraid of my fortress?

>>16879193

Make a 30zlvl deep moat. Make it 5 tiles wide and put pillars in the middle to bait climbers. Then pelt them with crossbows as they try to leap over and watch the organ fireworks.

>>16879641

too late, already making a pitfall trap with water tanks on the sides to flush anyone who didn't dare stepping on the bridge

>necromancers create intelligent undead now

So, what happens if a fortress necro get's a fell mood, and drag's off a n undead dwarf for the construction? Sentient undead chair?

where the FUCK are the updated 0.47 tilesets

i just want to play this game w/ perfect squares

>>16884416

try this

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13407

>>16884120

females have no balls to chop my dude

>>16884539

Tbh anyone who doesn't set up a well-lit area for their military to train is setting themselves up to be gagged and fucked. I mean sure it's funny the one or two times you have some dorfs come out of the hole and paint the entire entrance green with puke, it becomes less funny when they get their heads chopped off for it

>>16884539

>above ground fortress

>>16885095

You don't have to engage the enemy outside. Just let them come to you. Make the only surface entrance to your fort a well- guarded tunnel.

>>16885157

>Drowning trap

>Not glorious new-age cave crocodile drowning trap

>>16885178

Tell those lazy fucking lizards to stop chilling in the corner and fall in my cages and maybe i will add them