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98082c  No.16819884[Last 50 Posts]

Anyone here game on Linux? What is it like? AMD or Nvidia? AMD or Intel? I'm planning on buying Ryzen CPU, haven't decided on the GPU yet, but I'm strongly considering switching to Linux because Windows has turned itself into more of an annoyance to be dealt with than an OS I can rely to for work.

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4d97cb  No.16819886

What type of work do you do anon?

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98082c  No.16819887

>>16819886

I spend most of my time in IntelliJ Idea, PyCharm and occasionally Android Studio. Sometimes I do stuff in Visual Studio Code, but I tend to run away from front end, so there is that.

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4d97cb  No.16819892

>>16819887

I'm fairly sure that all of those have linux versions, so a transition shouldn't be too much of an issue. Personally I'd recommend ryzen as I've had issues with Intel's iGPU overriding my dedicated gpu. Between Nvidia and AMD it kind of fluctuates on what you might be interested in, both have open source drivers but Noveau occasionally lags behind on utilization. Depending on how new your gpu is you may need to pick up a new version of mesa graphics to use them which may mean looking into Distributions that ship with newer drivers.

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98082c  No.16819893

>>16819892

as far as a gpu goes i'd go with either 1660 or rx 5600 for 1080p. yes, i know the ides i use have linux versions, but i also like to play games on the same machine so i've decided to ask a bit. thanks for the reply

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4d97cb  No.16819896

>>16819893

No problem, if you'd like you can check out winedb which has listings of reports for windows software that has been tested as well as notes on if adjustments need to be made for launching them, alternatively, if you'd like to use Proton which is currently integrated into steam they have their own database available to browse, however, the notes provided on reports there can be somewhat less helpful. Additionally you could look into Lutris which provides scripts to handle the setup of wine and native applications submitted by users.

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98082c  No.16819899

>>16819896

>Proton

i just googled it up

https://www.protondb.com/

well this thing looks impressive. thank you

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5e658b  No.16819909

>>16819884

I switched to Linux a couple of months ago. The transition can be painful but you eventually learn how to work with it and in the end I'm very happy that I switched. I've so far played Fallout 4, Doom 4, and GTA V on Linux and they all ran great. I've also fooled around with Android Studio and it has also worked perfectly fine. It's a good idea to go with AMD for GPU because the drivers are open source so they have a lot of support and they're always evolving.

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2659dd  No.16819959

File: 5397100d91492a2⋯.webm (7.06 MB, 640x352, 20:11, penguin insanity.webm)

I mostly play older games and many of them run better using Wine than on Windows (some of them even don't run at all on Cy+5 Windows).

I use PlayOnLinux for managing Wine bottles + Winetricks when needing some extra stuff for them.

And in distribution department, over the years I have been running Ubuntu, Mint, Arch and nowadays Manjaro.

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599741  No.16820040

I'm planning to, I took a lot of loose notes from the SteamOS thread >>16811850 and it looks like a bit less of a headache considering my interests. Hardly going to care about running anything new myself, more interested in still being able to run older stuff.

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599741  No.16820053

Not that I'm going to run SteamOS, just jotted a lot of the general tips about compatibility things like proton/lutric and distro suggestions.

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3d8fd1  No.16821001

you can run a bunch o games on linux. lutris is great for that. running it on debian and it's great.

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1eaaf9  No.16821002

>>16819884

>Anyone here game on Linux? What is it like?

It works, kinda. You have to keep in mind that when you play Windows games on GNU/Linux you are running a hacked together piece of shit software on an operating system it was never intended to run on, so considering that it is a miracle that anything works at all.

That said, I stick to older games (the most recent one I have is Witcher 3), so most of it runs well with little to no tinkering. If you are not afraid of messing around until things get working you will be fine. Just don't expect GNU/Linux to be the same as Windows, things are going to be different. Not just from a technical standpoint, but also from a mental one.

With that said, I still rather have to fight the occasional game to get it working, than fight the entire operating system to get anything working.

>>16819887

Those have GNU/Linux versions, so you'll be fine. I would recommend getting off the IDE drug anyway though, IDEs are bloated pieces of shit that make you dumb and dependent on them. Jet Brains is fucking cancer, they are trying to become the new Borland where they can effectively control the entire tooling for the languages. A plain text editor that's programmable can give you most of what the IDE gives you (look into the Language Server Protocol). Of course if your employer mandates that you use an IDE there is not much you can do professionally, but you can at least free yourself personally.

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6fc2cb  No.16821063

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>>16819884

If you're buying hardware for GNU/Linux, lurk for any firmware quirks that may require manual configs. Motherboards insist on you using Windows 10, so some things like Ethernet, temperature sensors, sound, and of course, WiFi won't work without any proprietary blobs that need to be installed manually to the Linux kernel. This won't be too much of a problem if you're using a distro that "just werks" like Ubuntu or Manjaro, but for a completely manual install like Gentoo or Arch, it's critical for getting everything to work properly. I tried to get Ubuntu running well, but my ASUS PRIME-X370 does not show temperature sensors due to some proprietary shit, and unfortunately it's not supported for this kernel module that I've found: https://github.com/electrified/asus-wmi-sensors

Which motherboard vendors are worth buying that just werk? All I know is that anything with Broadcom or Realtek is not going to work properly.

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162f42  No.16821086

>>16819884

I'm mostly playing pre-2010 games anymore and Linux has been awesome. It's like super Windows XP in terms of customizability and compatibility these days. Manjaro and WINE/ProtonVK will set you the fuck up. My current system running Linux has a dual core Intel CPU and a lightweight AMD GPU.

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180b86  No.16821115

>linux has no gaems

So this is a perfect opportunity for any aspiring indiefag to make some gaems for lelnux?

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4d97cb  No.16821121

>>16821115

If they wanted to, sure. Indies tend to make linux versions anyway as a lot of the GDKs they use can create linux versions

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180b86  No.16821135

>>16821121

but what if i wanted to make my gaems linux native? when i release the sourcecode niggers can just make their own wangblows ports, right?

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ad34e8  No.16821176

>>16821135

>not just making portable programs in the first place

i think you're retarded

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180b86  No.16821185

>>16821176

I just have assburgers

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1eaaf9  No.16821195

>>16821135

> when i release the sourcecode niggers can just make their own wangblows ports, right?

Sure, if anyone wants to dig through your spaghetti mess of a code in the first place.

>>16821176

Portable software is not always feasible (although I'm sure someone who writes such spergy post is far from that point). The trick is to wrap up the unportable parts behind a layer of abstraction with a thin interface. Then those unportable parts can be swapped out for different platform-specific implementations.

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180b86  No.16821202

>>16821195

lmao you sound mad as fuck, thanks 4 the advice faggot

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ad34e8  No.16821203

>>16821195

Yes, obviously when you're creating a simple window it's different on different platforms but that has already been solved by libraries and frameworks you can use, but there's also different architectures to consider and not just operating systems.

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ccaf09  No.16821273

>>16821063

>All I know is that anything with Broadcom or Realtek is not going to work properly.

uwot?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration/Wireless#Realtek

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration/Ethernet

especially realtek should be more than fine since they re-use the same chips for years.

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75ac82  No.16821283

>>16821273

I have a 6 year old laptop that I use Linux to dick around on and learn, and Broadcom wireless didn't work out of the box with either Arch or Mint. I had to get some updates via ethernet first (obviously could have done it via USB media as well) and then it worked just fine.

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162f42  No.16821302

>>16821135

> make my gaems linux native

You may not realize that a lot of excellent emulators (e.g. Retroarch, Dolphin, CEMU) are using lib libraries that originate from Linux efforts. I was just playing JYDGE that also appears to have used a lot of lib-based libraries and that game was very well made. If you make your game Linux native, it's basically going to use a lot of open-source utilities that are cross-platform anyhow.

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99a679  No.16821303

>>16821063

Got a Gigabyte X570 Aurorus Master, sensors just werk out of the box. WiFi didn't work months back before some kernel update with the drivers for the WiFi chip this board uses. Barely use WiFi anyway.

>>16821283

That's just the kernel being outdated. Support for some WiFi shit takes a while as well.

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3d8fd1  No.16821304

>>16821283

yeah, I know a bunch of people that force minimal installations when they don't need to. then they end up with that.

>start new job. first day with 2 other people

> we were told to install our own OS on company laptops

>one guy chooses debian netinstall. I brought the full image on usb

>dude can't do shit. missing modules, no network drivers (no ethernet at that time), and no gui

>dicks around for 2 days. accidentally sets up LUKS. now he can't even boot without that specific usb stick

>I install the same debian version via usb with non-free drivers on the same laptop model. justwerks.png

I'm all for removing bloat, but sometimes it's not practical

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99a679  No.16821306

>>16821304

Dude would be better off building his own ISO, but that's just my take

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3d8fd1  No.16821312

>>16821306

he did pull it off, though. it was just a huge pain getting there

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180b86  No.16821313

>>16821302

>open-source utilities that are cross-platform anyhow.

any good ones that i should use?

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588587  No.16821470

One of these days, I'll take the year required to actually find a distro that's not shit, find a desktop environment that's not shit, find software alternatives that work on said distro and aren't shit and learn the myriad of command bullshit needed to actually use it in such a way that it won't be a massive inconvenience on a daily basis. As it stands right now though, doing anything on Linux is a pain in the dick that could probably be addressed with time and effort on my part, but there simply is no need to do so now and hopefully there won't be for a long while.

I do hope that there'll be some effort to emulate Windows 10-only programs on Windows 7, because I know that 20 years down the line, when we're up to HTML7 or whatever, Win 7 certainly won't support that natively.

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4d97cb  No.16821503

>>16821470

Have you tried XFCE Mint?

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af45f3  No.16821506

>Linux

>gaming

Is never not going to be a dumpster fire. Keep Windows 7 for gaming and use Linux for a secure work PC.

Now that GNU has been co-opted by trannies, feminists, and other "woke" developers I don't have high hopes for its future either (which to be fair, is about the same amount of hope I have for Microsoft).

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4d97cb  No.16821509

>>16821506

It's not 2004 silly

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af45f3  No.16821531

>>16821509

>I mean, Wine isn't THAT bad

>okay there are SOME compatibility issues, but I can play games from 5 years ago with only minor problems

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4d97cb  No.16821535

>>16821531

Really the only snag that's major these days are Denuvo, Uplay, and a few anticheat systems. Otherwise it's fairly simple to run most things in Wine, especially if you use things like DX/9VK

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162f42  No.16821624

>>16821313

Lua and zlib are common ones I recognize. Check projects like GZDOOM and other open source projects and I'm sure a lot of common dependencies/tool modules will become apparent. I'm not a developer, just noticing some common tools I regularly need to check before trying to run gaymes.

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588587  No.16821645

>>16821503

I've tried Mint regular and Ubuntu with Gnome so far, out of necessity because I have a laptop (got it for free) that doesn't support Windows 7 and anything's better than Win 10. So many small things that piss me off, mostly being unable to actually install (admittedly obscure) software for no clear reason.

Is there some sort of easy way to compare all the distros between each other without just installing all of them? Aside for performance and bundled software (which I want as little as possible of), I don't even know what the differences between the many distros COULD be.

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b4e4cb  No.16821650

I'm gonna nut in the fucking penguin

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4d97cb  No.16821655

>>16821645

Well with the various ubuntu flavors it's mostly down to your Desktop environment and standard applications, and occasionally what drivers are preincluded (something like Mint or Pop!OS) an exception I might feel could be kubuntu/kde neon as the kde plasma desktop has such a high level of integration with it's included software. The LTS releases tend to be more stable, at the expense of age of included drivers/packages, but you can install a ppa backport including newer versions.

As for the Ubuntu Gnome issue, it may be a result of using 19.10+ derived distribution as canonical had made the MONUMENTALLY ABSURD decision to drop 32bit support (and packages).

If I remember a temporary fix for all the shit canonical broke is that you can re-enable 32bit support by enabling the architecture

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c4e448  No.16821696

File: 903a15e553e2d4a⋯.webm (1.16 MB, 640x480, 4:3, im going to get my gun.webm)

>Linux gaming

Every time.

Every fucking time!

Just give up already! It's shit! Don't you get it?! Linux gaming is shit!

Why not try to emulate Doom on your calculator? That's probably a better gaming experience.

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4d97cb  No.16821701

>>16821696

Don't know about you, but I'm having a great time over here.

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ca0e0c  No.16821703

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>>16821696

>t. retard

I dont even use Linux exclusively and I know it's pretty solid for the majority of games outside of triple a gameswhich I do play a couple. Andthere are distros that are pretty stable if you dont fuck with too much(and if you do, use a virtual box to test things before you apply it to your real distro).

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162f42  No.16821718

>>16821645

>Is there some sort of easy way to compare all the distros

Check out distrowatch. After clicking on 'Find/Submit Distro,' start looking through 'Based on' drop-down and doing some research. The most popular forks are Debian, Arch, and BSD. You can research what the differences are by reading and watching reviews of the different distros. Mint and Ubuntu and both based on Debian, which is why it's probably better to get a straight-up, customizable Debian distro instead of one or two additional OS'es layered on top (aka, bloat).

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5e658b  No.16821747

>>16821303

>sensors just werk out of the box

What kernel version? I'm on an Asus Prime X570-P and I didn't have any CPU readings until 5.4.0.

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736a3c  No.16821764

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Yeah, I game on Linux

By virtualizing windows and giving it it's own graphics card

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3d8fd1  No.16821943

>>16821764

I have that too. spent about a month setting it up properly. installed nudoom, and never touched it again. there's not much need for it since I can run everything natively or in wine.

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ca2eb9  No.16821995

>>16821747

Same anon differenf IP, but fuck if I know. Again I got a Gigabyte board, I suppose it uses different sensors.

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c875bd  No.16822393

If you installed one flavor of Ubuntu, but wanted the DE of a different one, would it break shit to install a new DE and remove/purge the other one?

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7a153d  No.16822411

>>16822393

As long as you use your package manager to remove things without forcing anything, all things required for any other program should remain installed. You can also just keep everything installed and merely tell your login manager to start the new DE/WM. Especially if you're trying out the new thing, so you can easily switch back if you decide you don't like it.

Or just learn how to install a minimal distro like Arch, the whole point of those is that you only have to install what you want. Removing things is always harder than adding them.

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5812d4  No.16822414

seems legit

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b204ef  No.16823208

File: 50ee11f54c43ead⋯.gif (1.51 MB, 240x256, 15:16, NO.gif)

>I can't install leenocks, I need to play the newest AAAshit!

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9c1ea9  No.16823319

>>16821696

fuck off

gzdoom on linux is way better than your gay ass switch, ps4, or xbox one

almost all of my games on steam run on linux through proton, i say almost because i havent played them all and there might be some that demand anti-cheat to work

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7f6d21  No.16823339

File: fa024c16cdc4e2c⋯.jpg (14.89 KB, 301x300, 301:300, 1185527625340.jpg)

install ioquake3

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0d0c89  No.16829310

>think to myself "I'm gonna dual boot Linux and Windows 7 for the best of both worlds!"

>install Windows 7 on its own hard drive

>Use Windows Loader to bypass product key check, but it says "unsupported partition table"

>something about MBR and GPT I have no fucking idea

>try some shit, but to no avail

God damn I'm gonna be too retarded for Linux, aren't I.

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588587  No.16829312

File: f70f3d2ec43c653⋯.png (466.12 KB, 619x465, 619:465, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16829310

It's an issue that happens sometimes with strange Windows installation from my experience. Try this activator, seems to work for me when Daz' Windows Loader gives me an "unsupported partition table" error.

https://files.catbox.moe/sc8idi.zip

>inb4 this is dolphin porn

The program is called Chew-WGA v0.9, you can find it yourself if you don't trust me. Pic related.

As for Linux, installing it was straightforward as far as I tried. Using it, on the other hand, not so much.

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387f66  No.16829318

>>16829312

I don't know, those tools all have tons of shady mirror sites and variations. Daz loader has an official release on a certain forum that I could hash check and compare reliably.

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588587  No.16829324

>>16829318

I can't vouch for much other than the one I uploaded, it's off of my personal flash drive, where I have a collection of these activator tools for different issues, and I've used it on at least three occasions with success.

The problem here was that Daz' loader wasn't actually working. Daz' also doesn't support Win7 enterprise or business editions, I needed to find a third program for those.

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3d8fd1  No.16829336

>>16829310

if you're dualbooting you probably want to use grub for both OSes

>install Windows 7 on its own hard drive

I assume the linux install has it's own hard drive? if so, point the bios to boot off of that one. you can set up the windows one on grub later

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387f66  No.16829346

>>16829336

I can't get to that step yet since I haven't managed to activate Windows 7, which will cause it to shit itself in short time. I don't know how to convert the drive from GPT into MBR which is what the activation tool wants, and my pea brain is having a hard time with the BIOS options and all that nomenclature. I am not good with computer.

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588587  No.16829348

>>16829346

Should be able to do that from either running diskmgmt.msc, using Aomei's disk partition tools or from the command prompt.

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3d8fd1  No.16829381

>>16829346

>I can't get to that step yet since I haven't managed to activate Windows 7

what does this have to do with the linux install?

>I don't know how to convert the drive from GPT into MBR

don't. why do you need to do that?

you are using efi right?

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000000  No.16831857

Here are some pointers

>GOG is your friend when it comes to Linux gaming.

>I would highly recommend using Ubuntu as your distribution in order for Steam to just werk as well.

>Lutrix is a great program all things considered as well.

>Be prepared for configuration hell for some games and some games to just flat out not work. Be flexible.

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0c4fa7  No.16831865

File: 035a23e1d3a5af1⋯.jpg (228.03 KB, 2560x1440, 16:9, XFEB_M.jpg)

Pretty sure most big budget games that warrant decent hardware isn't on linux, it's mostly old games, emulation and indie unity games.

Linux is really pretty fucking gay to use as a desktop OS though, it was made for servers and terminals, not personal computing. Wouldn't something interesting like RISC OS or TempleOS, or whatever unique OS designed for personal desktop use make more sense than linux? I mean, if you want to make life more difficult and not have access to standard commercial software then you might as well learn something and have some fun with it. You're not going to use any linux distribution as a proper workstation anyway, unless you only code or maintain servers.

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a680b7  No.16831920

>>16831865

Just tried the demo of that game. Not too bad from what I played but there was a bug where no button was responding after a puzzle so I couldn't finish it. Still looks decent if you're into PS1 era RE type games.

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0c4fa7  No.16831940

>>16831920

The demo was pretty much just released and the game itself isn't done yet, so some bugs are to be expected. I didn't have any problems myself though.

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99a679  No.16831991

>>16831857

Ubuntu is shit and lacks behind too much. I'd recommend Manjaro or PopOS

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4ed07e  No.16832100

steam on ubuntu isn't the worst thing I can think of – its the only option if you don't know how to enable contrib/non-free repos and manually configure graphics drivers / WINE configs.

you could very easily set up a retard with a ubuntu computer running steam and as long as you made it look like windows it would take them maybe a week to notice.

if steam isn't your thing, emulation, virtualization, WINE, and game engine remakes have you covered for the vast majority of games before 2010.

In all honesty, I don't believe in investing in linux as a gaming platform.

As long as the OS is made for developers, it will have game programmers.

Its once you try pushing too hard for proprietary software, DRM, desktop environments, etc. (dumbing it down) to attract normal-fags you end up pushing away developers that would be writing the games in the first place and normal-fags complain because they can't figure out how to run netflix.

If you're tech-savy enough to get linux working, its probably easier for you to set up a cracked wangblows pc and sandbox / firewall it.

Of all the benefits of using Ganoo plus Leenux, very few really apply to gaming that I can think of and all the traditional FOSS mentality goes out the windows when you're playing EULA botnets from EA/VALVE/CHINKGAMECO.

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0c4fa7  No.16832129

File: 934110126b6eef5⋯.jpg (152.95 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, SaintTerry.jpg)

>>16832100

Right, I don't get why people use Linux if they only play video games and browse the web. Linux can be fun to play around with, doing the stuff that it is actually good at rather than jumping through hoops to play games.

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7992df  No.16832321

>>16819892

>Between Nvidia and AMD it kind of fluctuates on what you might be interested in, both have open source drivers but Noveau occasionally lags behind on utilization

If this is the level of understanding itt then oh fuck.

Stay away from nvidia. The closed source drivers are an abomination and the open source drivers are a joke because nvidia REFUSES to allow people to make their shit work.

https://drewdevault.com/2017/10/26/Fuck-you-nvidia.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw

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803cc3  No.16832351

>>16832129

Yeah, but it's free though, and smart people already wrote out what to do in language even my failed out of middle school ass can understand.

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803cc3  No.16832353

>>16832321

Also I've heard this too that Nvidia sucks a great big fat cock and that's the reason Linux gaming on laptops sucks so much cock.

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7992df  No.16832373

>>16832353

Yes, I've run into that one first hand. Stay the fuck away from mobile graphics with NVIDIA particularly. If you have one already, for some god forsaken reason, you can make it work using bumblebee and the right amount of blood sacrifice, but it really sucks.

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739e60  No.16832400

>>16832373

Had an Alienware alpha that has an 860M that read out as some kind of unknown unknown chip, fuckin killed windows 8.1 that came with it around 3 years ago. Mint picks it up, but I'm pretty sure even the proprietary driver it recommends can't handle its weird bullshit.

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162f42  No.16832592

>>16831865

>Linux is really pretty fucking gay to use as a desktop OS though

Odd, I've been using mine for my work in medical science and it's been able to do everything, and sometimes better, than when I had Windows installed on it. Even now, gaymen on it is breddy gud.

>RISC OS or TempleOS, or whatever unique OS designed for personal desktop use make more sense than linux

You've never actually seen what TempleOS looks like compared to something like Manjaro with KDE, have you?

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abb1f7  No.16832671

File: c8720fa103f7e10⋯.png (329.47 KB, 408x427, 408:427, 230000683.png)

>>16832129

if all the games you wanna play already have a linux version or run with hardly any work (or all the shit you use for that matter), why not use linux?

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8e7f50  No.16832702

>>16832671

Most I could think of is nvidia bullshit. Though I can't really think of any reason to use any of their gpus over one of AMDs.

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5be65e  No.16833177

File: d43744fddfa7512⋯.png (11.62 MB, 5650x4382, 2825:2191, ClipboardImage.png)

If any of you anons want to try out Linux, you might want to get a different graphics card if you have a AyyMD R9 390. No matter what distro I tried, the live usb booted to a black screen. In order to even install a distro, I had to set a kernel parameter, and I still had to set a kernel parameter after installing a distro in order to even use it. I did some research and a lot of people have this problem with the same graphics. After getting a new graphics card, an Nvidia GTX 1660 Super, I don't seem to have anymore problems.

Despite that, I really like using Linux. Since I don't care for most AAA games and I'm much more interested in older games, emulation, and indies, Linax has been great for me. I'm glad to get away from Windoos and If I need anything from it, I'll just emulate it. My friends now think I'm more autistic than usual.

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162f42  No.16833407

>>16833177

>the live usb booted to a black screen

I think mesa is something you have to make sure is part of the distro you're trying to install; or your live usb creation is fucked up. Are you using Rufus or what, exactly? I've only ever run live USB on AMD hardware and had zero problems. I also specifically had your GPU at one point when I needed to use a live recovery USB.

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5cf4f3  No.16834250

>>16833177

what distro? amd especially needs new kernels for the driver

according to a quick search it should work by now: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/amd-r9-390-finally-usable-on-linux/131922

>I don't seem to have anymore problems.

nvidia will fuck you over in other aspects.

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5be65e  No.16834347

>>16834250

>usb creation

For that, I used balena etcher, but I made sure the installed isos had the correct hashes before using them.

>>16833407

>what distro?

Just about all of the ones I tried, even the rolling release distros. Whether it was the live usb or the actual installation, I had to set kernel parameters. Even after I updated the drivers in a post installation, it still did not work. Mint? Black screen. Memejaro? Black screen. Kubuntu? Black screen. The only distro that didn't give me a black screen on installation was Opensuse Tumbleweed, but that's because they use a special installer- and I still got black screens after installation.

>nividia will fuck you over in other ways

How so? I'm still a bit new to the Linux lore. Do they purposely bork their cards on Linux?

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162f42  No.16834412

>>16834347

I've never heard of Etcher, but my guess is that it's not preparing the right environment for the Linux ISOs you are flashing. I'd really recommend trying Rufus or LinuxLiveUSB and see if there is a difference in your outcome.

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5f5000  No.16835106

File: 92f68b4972efd23⋯.jpg (13.64 KB, 255x255, 1:1, Chestnuts_Roasting.jpg)

>>16821696

Damn near every game on Steam runs fine, or has a fix if it doesn't, through Proton. The only one I've encountered where there's no immediately searchable solution online is NiGHTS, out of the 20+ I've tried on this thing, since installing Linux.

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136925  No.16839324

>10+ year Win7fag

>try Linux Mint cinnamon

>looks like my old iphone or some shit

>mouse feels weird

>check out mouse settings

>it's somehow less comprehensive than mouse settings on windows 7

>look up how to turn off mouse acceleration (1 step procedure in win7)

>oh just create a fucking script on a hidden system folder for this basic functionality

Oh boy. This is gonna take some willpower for my caveman ass to learn.

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0c4fa7  No.16839327

>>16839324

Linux is a stupid meme, it has no business as a desktop OS.

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136925  No.16839328

>>16839327

I definitely don't want to move to Zogdows 10, though.

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16d527  No.16839330

>>16819884

Oddly I game on linux when I am stuck on a rig. Got an ancient Toshiba notebook I use to play DooM and Genesis roms with work mates. No issues at all. With Linux you are better just emulation old stuff.

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7ed1cf  No.16839337

>>16839328

Then dont?

Some people still use xp to this day.

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0c4fa7  No.16839342

>>16839328

It's not as if there's a huge difference between it and Linux, Microsoft and other big corps has tons of money invested into Linux and the backdoors are in your hardware. I'd either stay on Windows 7 or try out an OS actually made for desktop use. As far as video games are concerned you'd have to go with the latest windows to play what comes out, but if you dont care about that you can just stick with an older version. I have windows 98 running on my main gaming PC.

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136925  No.16839352

>>16839342

Is there another "OS actually made for desktop use" that's not Windows? 7 is the end of the road for me, so it makes sense to try and adapt into Linux. I don't give a shit about the newest and hottest games so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Cinnamon left me with a sour taste in my mouth with its mobile-tier overly simplistic settings, maybe I'll try Manjaro.

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0c4fa7  No.16839377

>>16839352

There are some alternatives to Windows that aren't Linux, yes. RISC is pretty neat if you have an ARM processor computer, like an raspberry pi or whatever. For regular use and gaming you'd be much better off just sticking to an older version of Windows than to migrate to Linux or going for one of the wonky alternatives. I mean, TempleOS or ReactOS might be fun to play around with but not much else.

Anyway, my point is that it Linux isn't much better than windows, particularly not for games or productivity. It only makes sense to go for it if your work involves networks or if you are a programmer and want to be able to modify and learn from everything you run. It's not strictly built for personal computing, TempleOS is actually far superior in this regard, even if it lacks software.

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5be65e  No.16839432

What opinions do you anons have on the Sparky Linux distro?

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d2d8fc  No.16839575

>>16839324

Try Mint MATE instead. It's slightly better for a variety of performance/vidya-related things though a bit clunkier for desktop use. Cinnamon is designed for office/productivity with the lowest amount of confusion. Hopping DE is much less of a pain once you're not set up and, assuming you're not retarded, there's no risk of losing any actual files you've got.

>Oh boy. This is gonna take some willpower for my caveman ass to learn.

Honestly if you stick with it editing config files/using the terminal become second nature. Biggest tip I can give you is to go enable unlimited length bash history and get used to searching your history for things you've done in the past (look up how to do it, it's easy).

I'd still suggest MATE for a fag that wants to play vidya though, assuming you're sticking with Mint at all.

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d2d8fc  No.16839578

>>16839575

>Cinnamon is designed for office/productivity with the lowest amount of confusion

That is office worker productivity or entry-level programmers obviously.

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136925  No.16839861

>>16839575

I hopped from Mint Cinnamon to Mint XFCE and didn't care for it either. I'm gonna go try Manjaro KDE and rack up more fuckups.

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059071  No.16839907

18.04.4 LTS soon fuckers

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ebe3fe  No.16840438

oh my god KDE is sexy

fuck Cinnamon and XFCE

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144f64  No.16843147

File: 957da593265c1aa⋯.jpeg (23.83 KB, 512x384, 4:3, 676b0a7011fedb92.jpeg)

>>16839861

I think I'm the only anon who actually likes gnome, despite absolutely hating it when I first used (and dropped) it. There's just no other environment that gets out of my way and allows so much functionality in one key press.

Anyway started playing Kingdom Come and the performance issues on it with gnome are completely gone. Totally playable now which is nice.

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059071  No.16843216

>>16843147

With Gnome the DE or with a Gnome based distribution of a distro?

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209dbd  No.16844331

Which low profile gpu can i use with my 4th gen intel? I am going loonix, don't really play intensive games, i tried rent shops and find it unenjoyable.

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162f42  No.16844354

>>16844331

1050 Ti is probably the best bet. I ran into problems with older GPU chipsets, even for some less demanding games, simply because my GPU had capped out support at DX10. The 1050 Ti will have the max support and it'll at least be solid for more demanding emulation, if you want that.

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835faf  No.16844481

If I only want to download vidya, music and film/tv, play, listen and watch said stuff, browse the net and funpost, what is the best option? Also it needs to be brainlet supported or minimal hassle.

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b3aa95  No.16844502

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16819884

Hello my fellow anons. I'm finally back. Things seem much livelier since I last checked.

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d06fea  No.16844538

File: 09788cb7c54f854⋯.webm (982.09 KB, 720x405, 16:9, mpv8.webm)

>>16839861

Gnome on Manjaro

>>16844481

I can only recommend what I'm used to and tend to like which is Manjaro. Probably the Plasma version. https://manjaro.org/download/

>>16844502

Yeah I just haven't been using image boards a whole lot lately. Might as well post some webms

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059071  No.16844624

>>16844622

If it were around the time of XP and maybe 7/8.1 I might be inclined to agree with you.

As it stands though, the sole issue I have with linux at this point is that Clip Studio Paint doesn't work on it.

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059071  No.16844765

Out of curiosity, what sort of state of fucked is the current release of Ubuntu (and forks, of)? I remember they broke fucking TONS of shit when they ripped 32bit support and a bunch of other libraries out, is it any more usable now?

Is VR shit in a less fucked position now?

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162f42  No.16844800

File: 6897b79bb5f41f6⋯.png (54.89 KB, 625x626, 625:626, 29786458793457895.png)

>>16844622

wasted dubs, retardanon

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ecb6ea  No.16845630

>>16844765

> I remember they broke fucking TONS of shit when they ripped 32bit support and a bunch of other libraries out, is it any more usable now?

didn't they postpone that or wasn't it just certain stuff? didn't hear much about it after they announced it.

>Is VR shit in a less fucked position now?

highly depends on headset, facebook and microsoft being shit isn't a problem of linux.

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921741  No.16845667

>>16845630

I more meant steam vr being busted as a result of 19.08 the dashboard was nigh unfunctional last time I tried it.

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708c99  No.16845677

I'm going to switch my main pc to linux once my hard drive dies

good luck OP

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921741  No.16845681

>>16845677

If you need any help, come on back.

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ecb6ea  No.16845893

>>16845667

iirc there was an update just a few days ago (on windows at least), no idea if that fixed it.

sure it was steam vr and not some other part?

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921741  No.16845997

>>16845893

Technically, it was an issue with Ubuntu 19.10 (and derivatives).

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5eb1f4  No.16847108

>upgrade to ubuntu 19.10

>no amd drivers for 19.10

Well shit.

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6bedeb  No.16847183

File: aebeccd51b6d606⋯.webm (6.51 MB, 900x506, 450:253, compare8.webm)

windows is so much easier to use bro

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2e7ad1  No.16847212

>>16847183

You could have typed "dis" enter right into the start menu and would have gotten there faggot.

Furthermore you'd just double click the nvidia driver in the tray anyway.

Anyhow you have a gay taste in music and window managers. Try KDE.

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2e7ad1  No.16847216

File: ca6af950aaf9d76⋯.webm (5.84 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Ubuntu_Causes_Girl_To_Dro….webm)

>>16847108

>using UBUNTU

Hahaha laugh at that faggot

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4d1bce  No.16847232

>>16847108

You what? Mesa drivers are included. Do you mean proprietary drivers?

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6bedeb  No.16847265

File: 64483f2e079a437⋯.webm (134.9 KB, 720x550, 72:55, tfw e3.webm)

>>16847212

>You could have typed "dis" enter right into the start menu and would have gotten there faggot.

…and still go through everything in that webm. Are you dense? The point was not to show the difference between clicking the gear wheel vs typing since both take about 1 second and the webm would've been over in 2. The point was to show the user has to go through 3 GENERATIONS of GUIs to reach 1 setting. XP, W7 and W10 menus all come up.

>Furthermore you'd just double click the nvidia driver in the tray anyway

Except nvidia is not installed on that system

<Having to rely on 3rd party, non-free drivers

<Needing expensive graphics cards to do basic display management

>Anyhow you have a gay taste in music and window managers. Try KDE.

Yeah your webm with better music, fairer comparison and more efficient DE was better. Oh wait

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6bedeb  No.16847290

File: ffbe8d331c500e2⋯.webm (6.1 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, squareone.webm)

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96e2f2  No.16847380

>>16847216

Well xubuntu but yeah. And I forgot to mention that xfce shat the bed when I upgraded as well so now I'm using kde plasma. Its fine but I still prefer xfce though.

>>16847232

Is the amd-core package the proprietary ones? When I try to install it, it errors out and says that it will only install on 18.4. The free drivers are only the mesa packages?

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162f42  No.16847390

File: aaa2317c8416475⋯.jpg (191.5 KB, 1600x1150, 32:23, 15239876559.jpg)

>>16847216

women and computers, in general - but then a Linux OS on top of that?

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2e7ad1  No.16847739

>>16847265

>Except nvidia is not installed on that system

Yeah because you're probably running it on a virtual machine. You would have an icon from AMD or Intel or whatever the fuck you're using in the bottom right, you can double click and get a proper non-pajeet graphics panel.

<Having to rely on 3rd party, non-free drivers

So do linux faggots. Where's my fully reverse engineered nvidia drivers? Or self made AMD-drivers?

<Needing expensive graphics cards to do basic display management

Except that an inbuild graphics chip of a desktop processor is enough.

>Oh wait

Go back to /g/.

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18c30c  No.16847951

File: 8986349b3ab66d3⋯.png (6.41 KB, 385x631, 385:631, windows_game.png)

File: b2f83f2c48a11f3⋯.png (248.63 KB, 785x561, 785:561, Screenshot from 2020-01-28….png)

>>16847290

>Yeah because you're probably running it on a virtual machine.

Because we know that everything that's not in a VM has a jewvidia card in it.

>So do linux faggots. Where's my fully reverse engineered nvidia drivers? Or self made AMD-drivers?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU

Certainly closer to it than nvidia windows where you need a fucking email to sign in to your pro gamur drivers.

>Except that an inbuild graphics chip of a desktop processor is enough.

What does that have to do with it? You're really grasping here. Point still stands; the windows way of accessing something as simple as the refresh rate of a monitor requires 3 layers of fullscreen settings menus and a tab menu from XP.

>>16847739

>Go back to /g/

t. fa/g/

I'm thinking of buying an Thinkpad X61 for college and getting through some DOS games I never seem to have time for.

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e810ba  No.16848732

>>16847290

>Brave

>chromium

>VLC

>VScode

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197208  No.16848744

File: 786157ec4a41871⋯.jpg (338.07 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1471401701267-0.jpg)

>>16847183

>>16847290

>less clicks to reach it = better

Try right clicking the desktop and see what option appears. You could make a huge panel that has every single setting in it, but that wouldn't make it easier to use.

That said, Windows 10 is a fucking piece of shit in every way, everyone knows this and only the most dumb phoneposting nigger would defend it.

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74a13b  No.16848898

>>16848732

It's a college VM. I'm required to have vs on it. It's also a dump for testing anything I want… And it's windows. Not some holy ground for only gnu. I even had to force uninstall anti virus junk. But please show us your desktop.

>>16848744

Or you could go to display settings and find all the important options in one screen like most DEs. The point is the only way you or anyone knows how to navigate windows is because they have probably DECADES of experience. Windows GUI being more user friendly is just an outright lie. The default start menu is so huge now with shit like Minecraft and ads in it that it's pretty much dead for old people who never touch desktop.

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e4545e  No.16848927

File: 1d16761847176a1⋯.png (39.68 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16848898

>But please show us your desktop.

I'm going to install Manjaro on my next build.

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4d044f  No.16848937

>>16847380

You don't look like you've read much about how drivers are packaged in Linux distros. Most (all of them should) are included in the kernel, so if you have the distro with a working kernel, you have the required driver, unlike Windows where you must download and install every single driver you need. This is the main reason the kernel is so big, by the way. One glaring exception is Nvidia, which has propietary drivers that must be loaded as a kernel module through DKMS, similar to Windows.

What you want to run AMD or Intel graphics is:

1. A recent Linux kernel. You need a kernel to run anything, but it is preferrable to get the newest Linux, especially if you have AMD and even more so if you're running recent GPUs, like Navi cards, since later versions include fixes and performance improvements. The AMD GPU kernel driver is called AMDGPU. heh

2. A recent version of Mesa (hint: Mesa is versioned according to the year and quarter of the release; Mesa 20.0 is the first release of 2020, Mesa 19.3 is the last release of 2019). What I said before applies here as well, even more so, in fact. Mesa is the OpenGL and Vulkan userspace implementation, which talks to the kernel driver.

And that's it, you don't need to download anything extra, though you may need extra packages if you want Vulkan support, visit your distro's wiki to figure that out, should be simple. Big caveat: Ubuntu is a distro known for being forgiving to outsiders, but it doesn't have the newest packages at all times, especially in the case of LTS releases. The solution to this is to use PPAs, but another option is to switch to a rolling release and/or bleeding edge distro, like Manjaro, Solus, Clear Linux, Void, Arch…

>>16844354

Nvidia is shit and jews. If you are running Linux,

NEVER

get Nvidia. Ever. They hold off on releasing firmware in order to throw a wrench in the development of open source drivers, they implement market segregation through their propietary drivers, they use their own special snowflake protocols instead of using what Intel and AMD use, therefore fucking Wayland support for their cards in the ass, and the list goes on. Linus hates Nvidia for many reasons, and I can't believe people here out of all places on the internet are recommending Nvidia.

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8281d5  No.16848946

Honestly keep windows around, there's a lot of good old games that will only run on windows.

What I recemend is running windows in a VM and setting up GPU passthrough. You'll need to make sure your CPU has an iGPU, then you passthrough your big pp GPU to windows when you spin up your VM.

This is how I have my set up, it's really comfy. I also have a raspberry pi in my living room, and I can stream my windows VM to that while continuing to do work on my linux install. Lets my room mates play my games without disturbing me while I work on my primary OS.

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8281d5  No.16848951

>>16848946

I also forgot to add that with this set up it doesn't matter what GPU you go with, as you won't even have drivers installed for whatever your dedicated GPU is. I uninstalled them as soon as it was working.

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5be65e  No.16848958

File: 565e05e13b11fa9⋯.jpg (582.36 KB, 1500x1061, 1500:1061, 8b4e4be04fdf5a73b1e34cf69c….jpg)

>>16848937

Thanks for the detailed explanation, anon. RIP me, because I just bought a 1660 Super, since it was cheaper. Next time, I'll go with AMD.

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8281d5  No.16848973

>>16848958

>1. A recent Linux kernel. You need a kernel to run anything, but it is preferrable to get the newest Linux, especially if you have AMD and even more so if you're running recent GPUs, like Navi cards, since later versions include fixes and performance improvements. The AMD GPU kernel driver is called AMDGPU. heh

Use GPU passthrough anon

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e81a11  No.16848977

>>16848946

Doesn't good old games usually run better on wine than on new windowses? I haven't played that many games on linux but I remember long time ago playing planescape torment on linux virtual box that used wine to run it because I wasn't able to make it run on win7 for some reason lel

I thought having windows makes sense for new games but not really for old games.

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4d044f  No.16848978

>>16848946

Not really. We've gotten to the point where many of the games that won't run are modern multiplayer titles (which are trash) due to their anticheat software, which typically consists of some rootkit bullshit. Older games are less compatible with Windows 10 than with Wine, actually.

Also, I had GPU passthrough once, but I dismantled that setup. I didn't like having games scattered everywhere between my Linux system and my VM.

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e4545e  No.16848983

File: d8219dcd6dbdc9a⋯.jpg (184.05 KB, 1280x1444, 320:361, d8219dcd6dbdc9a5faa66464d6….jpg)

>>16848951

So as soon as it's linked up with the VM you can dump the drivers on Linux? I take it it only needs to learn it's device ID or something.

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e4545e  No.16848984

>>16848978

That's what I gathered from another thread.

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d59b22  No.16849010

>>16848946

>Honestly keep windows around, there's a lot of good old games that will only run on windows.

>>16848977 is correct. If you're actually looking to play classic games then Linux is absolutely the way to go.

The people and technologies involved with wine and such are outright getting better performance and compatibility for many older titles and renderers.

Windows is only for your AAA, DRM'd anti-cheat normalfag games. So for anyone that isn't a faggot it's absolutely no loss. Using windows of your own volition literally means you intend to use or play something gay.

I'm having a really hard time choosing a laptop. Anyone using linux laptops with some recommendations for a comfy middle-tier laptop for college work and maybe gaming.

>>16848927

Good man

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3d8fd1  No.16849021

>>16848983

not that anon, but yes. you need to blacklist the gpu drivers on linux and pass them through to the vm. you still need some other drivers for linux (mesa, for instance).

I have a passthrough setup with which I went above any beyond any guide posted online. it took me a month to set it up properly, but it runs quite well. it also greatly depends on what setup you have

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3d8fd1  No.16849023

>>16849021

>and pass them through to the vm

I meant

>and pass the PCI ID of the card through to the vm

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e4545e  No.16849108

>>16849021

Thanks for clarifying, I'll see how far I get with proton/lutris and everything first, I think. The build I have laying around to do may be a bit too economical, for the time being, for passthrough.

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466fa5  No.16849425

>>16849108

In general it's not ideal to be using VMs to just end up using windows in them anyway. Try to get away from all that. If you're going to VM it up you might as well see how nvidia's service holds up if they end up bringing a client to linux.

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bb2144  No.16849428

The worst thing about Linux gaming is dealing with Windows centric tools (or lack thereof) that I use for mods. Windows has a whole infrastructure of third party shit to make gaming better. It's not as straightforward on Linux. It's cool if you're just playing vanilla games though. For most part, that's what we're doing 95% of the time.

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3d8fd1  No.16849433

>>16849108

if it matters, I barely use the passthrough setup. I installed nudoom for proof of concept. didn't even finish it.

I run everything else pirated via lutris. it can be a huge pain to get something working, but gog stuff usually runs out of the box. if you get stuck trying to run something on lutris, check winedb and google for proton solutions. that can point you in the right direction

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ed3a61  No.16849931

>>16839324

For whatever reason, DEs do not make good frontends to mouse options. I have no idea what their settings are trying to do, you just have to learn to use xinput and other tools. Heck, you should just learn X11's ways in general, and not this pile of failed mutant abstractions.

Here is a script pilfered from someone else to disable acceleration: xinput list –name-only | sed "/Virtual core pointer/,/Virtual core keyboard/"\!"d;//d" | xargs -I{} xinput set-prop pointer:{} "libinput Accel Profile Enabled" 0 1 &> /dev/null

This one enables acceleration: xinput list –name-only | sed "/Virtual core pointer/,/Virtual core keyboard/"\!"d;//d" | xargs -I{} xinput set-prop pointer:{} "libinput Accel Profile Enabled" 1 0 &> /dev/null

Some general X knowledge to help you become less of a babby duck: select to copy then middle click to paste… This stored text in the PRIMARY X11 paste buffer. There are 3 clipboards in X11, one is sort of deprecated (SECONDARY), PRIMARY is what you'll often accidently use and CLIPBOARD is usually what you actually want. Never update the system without using a terminal multiplexer or a tty, X11 can fail miserably and kill all your processes in its tree, thus interrupting a package upgrade or other transaction and possibly corrupting things/leaving things an in inconsistent state. To be fair, X.Org's implementation is pretty decent and stable nowadays, however the configuration file is still the worst human readable config file in the world if you have to use it, its so very fragile and semi-silently produces difficult to debug errors.

Some good X11 programs (you have to learn to use or configure them): Emacs (can be compiled with X11 toolkits and not GTKshit), Worker (file manager), Fvwm, StumpWM, and cwm.

>>16848937

You need Mesa, X11 specific drivers (if its an easy distro then this is figured out already), and the kernel drivers, if its a normal mostly open source driver. Otherwise, it is seperate from the kernel and most likely proprietary. If you are on Wayland, you just need Mesa and the kernel drivers from what I understand (I don't use it).

PPAs are very fragile, they should not be used for drivers.

Those rolling release distros require regular maintenance usually, Void is a little more stable simply because their software is less complex, but their package manager (xbps) can break things and uninstall things it shouldn't automatically like any other normal package manager. Nix and Guix can get things right, but they are made for programmers mainly and are significantly different from other methods to cause some confusion.

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ed3a61  No.16849933

>>16839324

For whatever reason, DEs do not make good frontends to mouse options. I have no idea what their settings are trying to do, you just have to learn to use xinput and other tools. Heck, you should just learn X11's ways in general, and not this pile of failed mutant abstractions.

Here is a script pilfered from someone else to disable acceleration: xinput list –name-only | sed "/Virtual core pointer/,/Virtual core keyboard/"\!"d;//d" | xargs -I{} xinput set-prop pointer:{} "libinput Accel Profile Enabled" 0 1 &> /dev/null

This one enables acceleration: xinput list –name-only | sed "/Virtual core pointer/,/Virtual core keyboard/"\!"d;//d" | xargs -I{} xinput set-prop pointer:{} "libinput Accel Profile Enabled" 1 0 &> /dev/null

Some general X knowledge to help you become less of a babby duck: select to copy then middle click to paste… This stored text in the PRIMARY X11 paste buffer. There are 3 clipboards in X11, one is sort of deprecated (SECONDARY), PRIMARY is what you'll often accidently use and CLIPBOARD is usually what you actually want. Never update the system without using a terminal multiplexer or a tty, X11 can fail miserably and kill all your processes in its tree, thus interrupting a package upgrade or other transaction and possibly corrupting things/leaving things an in inconsistent state. To be fair, X.Org's implementation is pretty decent and stable nowadays, however the configuration file is still the worst human readable config file in the world if you have to use it, its so very fragile and semi-silently produces difficult to debug errors.

Some good X11 programs (you have to learn to use or configure them): Emacs (can be compiled with X11 toolkits and not GTKshit), Worker (file manager), Fvwm, StumpWM, and cwm.

>>16848937

You need Mesa, X11 specific drivers (if its an easy distro then this is figured out already), and the kernel drivers, if its a normal mostly open source driver. Otherwise, it is seperate from the kernel and most likely proprietary. If you are on Wayland, you just need Mesa and the kernel drivers from what I understand (I don't use it).

PPAs are very fragile, they should not be used for drivers.

Those rolling release distros require regular maintenance usually, Void is a little more stable simply because their software is less complex, but their package manager (xbps) can break things and uninstall things it shouldn't automatically like any other normal package manager. Nix and Guix can get things right, but they are made for programmers mainly.

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9222cb  No.16850075

File: 61a5e640af16c99⋯.gif (1.78 MB, 360x200, 9:5, 3b8d5539a40a7f7fc4fb4d9bbf….gif)

>>16849933

I wrote a more robust version of that script.

https://openload.cc/rfq4L4b4oe

https://anonfiles.com/T9q7L5bcob

If you unplug your mouse it resets, you should use a xorg configuration file instead to make it permanent.

Taken from the archcancer wiki:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-acceleration.conf

Section "InputClass"
Identifier "My Mouse"
Driver "libinput"
MatchIsPointer "yes"
Option "AccelProfile" "flat"
Option "AccelSpeed" "0"
EndSection

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c6bf03  No.16850245

>>16849931

>>16849933

>>16850075

Thanks but I'm trying out Manjaro KDE now, which has the "flat" acceleration profile on the mouse settings menu. I'm not sure if that removes acceleration entirely or tones it down, but it helps a good amount.

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7bfc6d  No.16850423

File: 07dd3b8d61ec088⋯.png (1.13 MB, 1028x798, 514:399, CMBO.png)

Finally found out how to set up Wine to run Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord. All it needed was dgVoodoo, DXVK and ddraw.dll override.

>passthroughfags

Why bother with Linux, when in the end you are using it to run Windows anyway?

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4d044f  No.16850472

>>16849933

>require regular maintenance

All the maintenance my two Void installs have needed is updating. xbps hasn't broken anything yet on my systems, do you have proof for that? I'd rather take the extra maintenance, though, but it doesn't amount to much. When things do go wrong with package management, it's typically something the Void maintainers got wrong and all you have to do is wait for them to push more updates. If that doesn't work, you can always complain on their IRC channel.

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425d04  No.16850548

File: 34d56ce9fbd0960⋯.jpg (85.53 KB, 550x550, 1:1, linux_chan.jpg)

>>16850245

>>16850075

I just made a little script for it using that arch page. Also combined it opening up the CPU so I can get maximum performance.


#chmod +x
xinput --set-prop 13 'libinput Accel Speed' -1 && sudo cpupower frequency-set -g performance

Set prop # to whatever your mouse is. I also have a backup script that scans through every possible device which I use if I've ever changed USB device orders.

Put it in your .local/bin folder so you can run it anywhere. I named it cpu_mouse_prototype.sh

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7c6758  No.16852903

>>16839324

>>16849933

Is this a default in xorg or something mint/cinnamon does?

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0c98f7  No.16852907

>>16850423

Wow, I was trying to play this recently. It aged like milk, the mechanics are clunky and tedious, and there's nto much to make up for it. I'd rather play Steel Panthers.

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890c92  No.16853003

>>16819884

Nvidia(Fuck you)+Ryzen. In my case, while had a couple of games in Steam and other platforms, I only really played 60% of them. From that 60%, 80-90% of the games were covered either natively or with Proton/Wine+DXVK. Although tbh most of the games I play are Indie/AA so maybe that helps. All of them run pretty great, plus I get the Linux freedom™.

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a728a3  No.16853052

>>16847216

HAHAHAHA

> $1,100.00 dell laptop brick with ubuntu 7.10

> can't load verizon disc

> can't college

> can't internet

I would still fuck her over and over until I have a heart attack

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194bd0  No.16853060

File: dfa2a4292ab985a⋯.jpg (37 KB, 319x481, 319:481, 1424637500341.jpg)

>>16853052

Maybe I'm retarded, but was it all that common for isps to have their own install disks, or is this a "So old that laptops being able to directly connect to cell networks" type of thing

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cee048  No.16853264

>linux gaming

You actually mean

>windows just an "emulation" gaming

Correct? Bitch please there is no such thing as serious linux gaming, you are just stealing windows software and claiming it as your own.

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ce1a50  No.16853271

File: 02d1281a9b2c2a6⋯.gif (2.85 MB, 200x234, 100:117, terry.gif)

>>16853264

What are you gonna do about it, big guy?

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caba03  No.16853335

>>16853264

6 of 1 half a dozen of the other, the instruction set used by windows for 32bit and 64bit operating systems (64bit in particular) was primarily designed for Linux systems first. So, if you wanna be a mega retard like that, windows gyinked Linux in the first place.

And even with unbelievably generous over estimations Microsoft likely only has 0.01% of the people that worked on anything meaningful still with company.

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3d8fd1  No.16853340

>>16853060

it was "in" in the dialup age. you could still connect manually

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88678e  No.16853342

>>16853264

Well all Counter Strikes work natively, so I have Counter Strike on Linux. And of course console emulators work natively on Linux too (obviously going by your logic that's not real Linux gaming too, I guess I have to get a real SNES), so I have old Final Fantasy. And this basically all you really need, but then again there is Wine which lets you, indeed, use Windows software. Not really through emulation, it's more like an API/ABI for Windows programs, but of course it provides an "emulated" environment for those programs, like a drive_c folder and so on.

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667507  No.16853365

Recently set up PCI passthrough for doing a windows virtual machine, it always amazes me how shit windows is. It works perfectly for quickly booting up a throwaway install for anti-cheat games and using proton/wine/whatever-the-fuck compatibility layer wants to work. Despite the pain it was to set up l, much fucking nicer to just click a button to start a VM and switch my monitors source than dual boot for a round.

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000000  No.16853372

>>16853335

>the instruction set used by windows for 32bit and 64bit operating systems (64bit in particular) was primarily designed for Linux systems

what in the actual fuck am i reading

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82cde9  No.16853385

>>16853372

X86_64 was a Linux thing first

And that's not even getting into all the different 64bit architectures that are still Linux only

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2e7ad1  No.16853395

>>16853385

That doesn't mean it was "designed for Linux", nigger.

Furthermore Wikipedia just says "first operating system kernel" not "Linux systems", you double nigger.

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f7e082  No.16853397

Dont some games run way better on Linux due to VULKAN integration while most devs stick with dx12 for windows

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2e7ad1  No.16853410

>>16853397

>while most devs stick with dx12

You can usually choose your render target on Windows, nigger.

Usually engines give you the option between different DX versions, sometimes OpenGL and today Vulkan.

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f7e082  No.16853414

>>16853410

yea i know but some have made linux specific versions running on vulkan while windows was stuck with trash. Total Warhammer 2 comes to mind, runs like shit on windows and linux got the only vulkan version which runs far more smoothly

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2e7ad1  No.16853419

>>16853414

>while windows was stuck with trash

Who says that? I didn't play it but don't go making up shit without making a benchmark under equal conditions.

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000000  No.16853475

>>16853397

I've had native linux games run shittier on Linux than windows.

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ba3be7  No.16853525

>>16853475

I've had native Windows games run shittier on Windows than Linux. Like Gothic 1.

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7bfc6d  No.16853673

>>16852907

Well, games with 2D graphic/sprites do age better than early full-3D games. There are modern Combat Mission games, but considering I haven't even managed to run a demo version, I will not bother with the full games.

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99a679  No.16853859

>>16853264

Are you retarded. Native shit is a thing too you know. And you don't "emulate" shit with wine or proton, you use Windows files and configs in order to run Windows based shit, that's different than a emulator emulating whatever it wants to emulate.

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bb2144  No.16853872

>>16853271

No one wants to do anything about it. The only people actively trying to convince anyone of anything are Linux gamers. Windows users just want to be left alone so they can actually play their fucking games.

Also, BSD is better. Why aren't there BSD PC gaming advocates anyways? It's a better license without RMS' pozzing involved. Apple and Sony managed to do Desktop UNIX and UNIX gaming respectively in a fraction of the time, and gathered more market share than the Linux world ever has.

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caba03  No.16853963

>>16853872

>Windows users just want to be left alone so they can actually play their fucking games

If that were actually true, then why the fuck would they be tolerating an operating system that CONSTANTLY pesters them and gets in the fucking way.

Shit, the only thing windows "does right" is software support, and even then, that's not even something it does. That's a byproduct of being essentially a monopoly for 3 decades, and having all software cater to it as a default.

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74a13b  No.16853965

>>16853872

Have fun in that nightmare cloud 🇮🇱 because that's where all those platforms are going.

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bb2144  No.16853970

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16853963

>CONSTANTLY pesters them and gets in the fucking way

What are you referring to exactly? Honest question. The only thing that comes to mind is that notification point in the bottom corner (which doesn't even show up while playing games).

>>16853965

Not necessarily. See vid. At least, I'm hoping he's right.

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caba03  No.16853976

>>16853970

While, yes I will admit it has gotten slightly less cancerous when just playing games. If you actually use a computer, and god forbid one connected to the internet you will be introduced into the special hell of getting spammed with all the notifications that usually get choked out by "Game Mode"

Like, I've had windows kill a render to "update" which broke my sound drivers, and while it's your fault for not disabling updates it should literally never be okay for your OS to not only fuck up something you are working on, but also break parts of itself only to half assedly glue itself back together a few updates later (not really even an update, just removing the one that broke something)

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bb2144  No.16854129

>>16853976

I can't say all Windows uses will produce the same amount of notifications. I could see how it could be annoying.. but it hasn't been for me. The only time I get a bunch happening there is on a fresh install of Windows and I'm updating a bunch of stuff at once. Otherwise, it's just the occasional notification of a new email or something.

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d59b22  No.16854511

>>16854129

There's also popups that shill MC's browser when you try to install another one with a misleading highlighted button to encourage misclicks. But enough about shitty windows. Anyone who defends that shit can >>>/out/

Anyone think Cyberpunk is going to run like shit because it's being designed for consoles? It's definitely not getting a linux release (don't get me started on CDPR) but I hope it performs well so I have even a chance of a smooth experience of it on my system.

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bb2144  No.16854534

>>16854511

I don't think anyone consciously wants to defend Windows. Just gaming.

I'm more wary that Cyberpunk is just gonna be pozzed. I don't have any reason to doubt CDP for technical reasons.

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508b0e  No.16857320

>>16854534

No technical reason? W3 didn't perform well. Console focus and Nvidia jeworks. They're not a particular stand out or anything, that's a problem with every modern game but it shows they're more here to break the mold.

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d59b22  No.16857541

>>16857320

>shows they're more here to break the mold.

meant

<not here to break the mold

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b54a7c  No.16857929

Anon, I don't use Linux, but I use the same drivers available on Linux for AMD GPUs on OpenBSD. For any Unix-like OS, I suggest going red because Nvidia sucks ass on those platforms

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000000  No.16857960

>>16857929

Figures you'd post here after the thread was killed. This is good to know, usually Linux shit is pretty difficult to port to saner unices because the former is such a mess.

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e91ce9  No.16857968

>>16857960

Actually the Nvidia thing on Linux is strictly an Nvidia are assholes thing

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b54a7c  No.16858342

>>16857960

I forgot to mention but there is currently no way to play Windows-only games on OpenBSD. Just a warrant for Linux users that are tired of freedesktop nonsense and want to migrate to a saner Unix, OpenBSD is not the way to go if you intend to play Windows-only games, as there is currently no way to use Wine on it. Gaming is definitely possible if you want to limit your gaming resources even more, and I am fine with it because I have grown a lot out of vidya.

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ab8d56  No.16860055

There is no Playstation 3 thread on /v/ at the time I'm writing this, at least Ctrl + F didn't show me any results.

Can I still install any Ubuntu distribution on my PS3 (the first model which can run PS2 games, or at least some of it) after firmware upgrade 3.21?

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caba03  No.16860148

>>16860055

From what I remember, ubuntu doesn't actually support the processor (and instruction set) in the ps3, there was a distro specifically made for it, and one of the firmware updates completely dummied out support for other OS. There was a lawsuit over it.

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1b70cd  No.16860538

File: 0d59164e6e5de0f⋯.png (338.97 KB, 600x400, 3:2, terry printer.png)

>>16858342

BSD brothers unite, except for FreeBSD trannies. Fuck 'em. Their OS was already shit before the hostile takeover anyway.

NetBSD has WIP WINE support, it'll be in the stable repositories eventually. It also has a Linux compatibility layer but it's garbage and they expect you to manually handle packages for the layer. The only real issue I've experienced is windows-tier audio latency, there's a guy rewriting NetBSD's audio stack but given their release cadency that'll take a year or 2.

Other than that I have the libraries of almost every console with some damn games for it with retroarch which is available there so that's good enough for me.

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caba03  No.16860607

>>16860538

So, I've seen this a couple times, that's a wood burning tool isn't it?

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8d3ae6  No.16861030

File: 3e19f646e493803⋯.png (14.18 KB, 148x200, 37:50, windows 7.png)

File: 311acee36d50acf⋯.png (19.73 KB, 148x200, 37:50, manjaro.png)

Manjarofag here. Why were my web fonts crisper and nicer on Windows 7? Fuck.

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744271  No.16861070

>>16860607

Nope thats a 3D printer. Made in the 80s, thats how cool Terry is. I miss him.

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744271  No.16861072

>>16861030

Windows renders fonts differently. You can compile Windows 7 fonts from the AUR or just copy paste them from Windows 7.

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2e7ad1  No.16861079

>>16860607

>>16861070

Yeah but it doesn't work like a modern 3d printer.

iirc it carved out the wood instead of laying down layers of material.

That has the advantage of cheap hard things instead of weak prototype shit but the downside that it doesn't work with plastic.

One major application of 3d printing is electronics. However if you think of other applications Terrys machine is the more useful one.

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edf0cc  No.16862204

>>16861072

I'll sooner figure out how to fuck my own ass than how to fix this shit.

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4084d5  No.16862384

>>16861030

Fonts are hard and good fonts require a lot of expensive work.

Microsoft blew a ton on fonts for Windows 7.

You can find some decent fonts that are also free or even open source. Or, as others have said, you can just install Microsoft's fonts if you want.

Half the problem is Linux only includes a few (open) fonts to begin with and the other half is that websites generally target the most common fonts, and a lot of them predate modern resolutions.

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a8067d  No.16863343

File: 506e7898e6cffda⋯.png (32.09 KB, 1689x82, 1689:82, my font rendering.png)

>>16862384

Microsoft's fonts are ancient garbage that has been horribly digitized by a company called Monotype that used to make a living out of taking Linotype fonts and changing them slightly then calling it their own, until they bought Linotype recently. Not that I particuarly give a shit about the originality of a font, but don't expect people who make a living off of copypasting to suddenly plop out a decent digitization of a print font such as Times Roman. You know, one of the many fonts Microsoft ordered from them.

Windows also has broken OTF rendering to this day and is stuck with the inferior TTF. In addition to that escaping from Microsoft's kikery is intentionally obscure and you need to mess with the wangblows registry to make it use a font other than Microsoft's own garbage. Windows' font rendering is the worst of any still-updated operating system, which is fucking hilarious, because Microsoft is behind most of the font tech we use now.

Anon's issue is that he's using a shitty distro with a mistery meat font. And possibly Chrome/Chromium. Jewgle's browser is littered with font rendering bugs because instead of letting the OS libraries do it they bake in their own libraries to do it, and they come with the Google seal of quality.

If you want decent fonts try Source Code Pro for monospace, Ubuntu for sans serif (make sure you get it in OTF not TTF, but I don't expect anything from Arch so I imagine they only distribute it in TTF).

Other good sans serif fonts are Nimbus Sans L and San Francisco (SanFran is an Apple font but it's free, they published it on a random github repo). All of those except maybe San Francisco should be available on the stock distro repos.

I'm not aware of a good free Serif font, most people just make a sans serif font their default "serif" font anyway. If that bothers you pirate Rockwell which is proprietary but a decent slab serif font for screens (even though it's only a digitization).

If you don't like Helvetica or fonts that are too Helvetica-like, OpenBSD has a homegrown monospace font they use in their console terminal that is nothing like that. I don't know its name but if you look it up you should be able to find a download, like everything out of that project it's free.

If with these fonts things still look like shit then it's because Arch configures its fonts particularly horribly, one more reason to get off that sunken ship.

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6420c6  No.16864575

If Gimp is to Photoshop, what is to Vegas or After Effects?

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d5fc41  No.16864599

File: ceea46620224d72⋯.jpg (199.75 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, do_your_work-TAD.jpg)

>>16864575

Gimp is trash, so I guess Kdenlive or something?

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4d044f  No.16864645

>>16864599

For video editing, there's Olive, Blender, and Shotcut too. And if you do digital painting Krita is actually pretty good, some say even better than Photoshop. It's got a lot of polish.

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76dce5  No.16864655

>>16864645

Basically anything is better than photoshop for Drawing, photoshop just makes post sketch editing easier.

Not to knock krita though, it's fuckin nice

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a429b9  No.16865251

>>16864599

>>16864575

photoshop is much more than gimp tho, it never really was a logical comparison. maybe if gimp and krita (plus some extra filters and shit) would be one package.

plus most shit people do in PS they can easily do in gimp, the amount of actual professionals or even amateurs using it for more than cropping images is pretty minimal.

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cdd1af  No.16865344

File: 385ff041c021171⋯.jpg (963.55 KB, 1280x1707, 1280:1707, 1581974893993.jpg)

Running an R5 2600 and an RX 5700. Everything I want to play runs well natively, or runs well via Proton or Lutris.

It's funny. I recently set up a couple of Windows PCs for people and, coming from Plasma on Manjaro, I was fucking horrified at how shit the general desktop experience is. No tabs in the File Manager is a good example; it's a small difference, but it's very noticeable.

If it means my daily tasks are easier, and my software is more intuitive, I don't mind doing a bit of extra legwork to get certain games running on Linux. It's a fair trade-off.

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c168ab  No.16865350

>>16865344

5700 works on Linux? Maybe it's time for an upgrade after all

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6a1d8d  No.16865517

>>16864599

>Gimp is trash

>the program making GEGL, which swallowed mypaint, supports everything, invented GTK is trash

>using Terry for nonsense again

Go back to your Photoshop with its HTML, Flash interface you fucking cocksucking nigger.

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75d427  No.16865528

>>16865350

As others have stated ITT, AMD's GPU drivers are opensource, so they're often better than Nvidia's on Linux.

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777783  No.16865541

>>16865528

Yeah but wasn't there some fuckery with Navi, and iirc the 590?

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75d427  No.16865543

>>16865541

Probably. Thing is, most issues get resolved in a few months after launch. It's dumb as fuck to buy computer hardware at launch because there's bound to be something to improve on the firm/software side.

I got my MSI RE 5700 in Jan, long after the storm. Cheaper to get it then, too.

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70c3ab  No.16865806

>>16865541

>iirc the 590?

bought it at launch due to a good deal, the only issue with the 590 was that older linux kernels didn't support the power management so you had to disable it in grub, but it should be fixed by now.

no issues in windows and the blackscreen people meme about only happens in 1 game so rather put the blame on the game (which isn't the most stable and bugfree to begin with).

can't speak for navi but the issue was probably similar, so unless you're willing to compile your own kernel for bleeding edge hardware you either have to wait or use a distro that keeps it somewhat up2date.

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583d60  No.16866292

>>16861030

>'cleartype' is Microsoft's implementation of subpixel rendering technology in rendering text in a font system. ClearType attempts to improve the appearance of text on certain types of computer display screens by sacrificing color fidelity for additional intensity variation. This trade-off is asserted to work well on LCD flat panel monitors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType

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08caae  No.16866378

File: e44618ab89f7150⋯.png (239.97 KB, 1797x727, 1797:727, default manjaro.png)

File: c3d8a30f0298819⋯.png (233.2 KB, 1797x730, 1797:730, cleartype manjaro.png)

File: 716063342f3c0b5⋯.png (163.52 KB, 1800x725, 72:29, windows 7.png)

>>16866292

I tried out replacing regular freetype with this:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/freetype2-cleartype/

It sharpened the text up a bit, but it doesn't look as good. Looks a bit chunky and uneven, despite setting up the same fonts on my browser.

I'll just have to get used to how it is.

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08caae  No.16866390

>>16866378

>come out of ancient 2009 operating system into cutting edge 2020 Linux distribution

>fonts look worse across the board

God damn if I ain't mad though.

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93bc88  No.16866531

>>16866390

People say software doesn't rot, but I think it rots in reverse. What do you call it when the old fruit are just as fresh as they were years ago and everything that grows on the vine today is inedible?

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2ef8cd  No.16866559

I'll never believe in Linux gaming.

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4d044f  No.16870941

>>16866559

Faggot.

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c301ea  No.16871018

>>16866390

theoretically, there's not much stopping people from porting the font renderers into modern distributions.

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65cc10  No.16871528

>>16871018

Let me know if they do. I'm at the verge of switching back to Windows 7, my eyes can't get used to this shit.

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6b2b0f  No.16871592

>>16864575

ur gonna have to use blender m8

might not seem logical at first but it is the best solution

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c301ea  No.16871632

>>16871528

With a level of concern adequate with what might be your particular needs, you might have misplaced priorities if you're considering hopping back to windows over how fonts are rendered.

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c5d011  No.16872438

File: 2af80ae27357433⋯.jpg (78.73 KB, 794x973, 794:973, Husky_1583738374672_0K77I6….jpg)

>>16871528

>>16871632

That is some next level comfort-zone. If you need everything to be exactly the same down to the fonts then I don't even know how you got from 7 to 10 let alone trying linux. Meh, your loss.

Getting even better performance on Kingdome Come while streaming now that I switched to VAAPI hardware encoder on OBS as long as I stay FHD in-game and x720 OBS. Removing too many dynamic elements on OBS was also vital.

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4252c5  No.16872452

Even as a Windows user, fonts are the last on my list to drop Linux for. There's nothing stopping me from being a fulltime Linux user except the convenience/infrastructure set up for games. Everything else is great about Linux or BSD.

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65cc10  No.16872787

>>16872438

>from 7 to 10

>implying

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673941  No.16875203

Been on Gentoo for years now, but I think I'm gonna switch to Arch. It's annoying that updates are constantly broken by the same packages, on any setup, for years. Stuff like cairo, rust, those mozilla dependencies in general and the chaos that is python. All the gaming stuff comes from portage overlays, the more obscure ones are poorly maintained and having any of that installed is an invitation for problems on updates. It's a shame as Gentoo does many things better than Arch but I don't have the time to manually reinstall a quarter of my system every few months to enable the system to be consistent and up-to-date.

>>16866559

I've compared the whole retroarch emulation stuff lately and it runs far better on Linux. That together with steam ports and wine makes Windows almost a special-needs OS to play a few bitchy AAA titles that just don't run on Linux.

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4252c5  No.16875290

>>16875203

>I've compared the whole retroarch emulation stuff lately and it runs far better on Linux. That together with steam ports and wine makes Windows almost a special-needs OS to play a few bitchy AAA titles that just don't run on Linux.

It's more about the infrastructure and third party tools for me, rather than any individual game. Mod managers for instance can be a shitshow even on Windows. I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot even more.

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518c0b  No.16875351

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000000  No.16876561

>>16875203

I feel you. Python really is a pest on Gentoo, almost as bad as Perl used to be but at least Perl is all legacy now so it rarely changes anymore. Language-specific package management in general deserves an extra portion of Zyklon B, stop trying to install another system within my system you worthless self-important shits. I definitely get the feeling that the quality of Gentoo maintainers has gone downhill in the recent years too, I run into more and more dumb dependency issues that could have been avoided by basic sanity and hygiene. Such as not fucking editing the ebuild in place to remove USE flags. Holy fuck build revisions exist for a reason.

>but then all the other people have to rebuild and notice our fuckery oh no

Fuck you, you fuck it up, you pay the price. Stop pushing the buck onto people trying to have a sane system.

Unfortunately it seems like no other distro will fit my needs, I would have jumped long ago otherwise. Really says something when the reason you're using your OS is "everything is retarded and this one is just slightly less retarded".

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b6494d  No.16876823

File: 2f1bcf2763ed01e⋯.png (53.19 KB, 819x433, 819:433, ClipboardImage.png)

Why does "rolling release" mean "we need to periodically update the calculator"?

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9db14c  No.16876875

>>16876823

Not sure, but you know what is also odd.

Anyone else have issues with keyboard shortcuts for the calculator not launchin it?

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9db14c  No.16878560

File: a09334aee649abe⋯.png (44.94 KB, 215x234, 215:234, 22fc75266ae792319ef9709239….png)

Is PopOS any good on laptops with combination igpu dedicated gpu setups?

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bd6fa4  No.16878794

File: a9ad5e14003057b⋯.jpg (324.76 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20190822225640_1.jpg)

>>16876823

I don't use it but that sounds like a question for their forums if they have any.

Played some warframe today. Only crashed once in railjack which is a lot better than the 4 crashes average per mission I was getting. Guess they did some patching while I was away. Managed to get a few resources. Still need so much more to repair the better gear I found.

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4ac173  No.16879299

>>16876823

KCalc is part of the desktop environment, so when the update for KDE is released, it's for all parts

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578004  No.16879305

>>16819884

Did they fix EAC yet? I wanna play FighterZ god damn it.

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9db14c  No.16879336

>>16879305

They can't really "fix" the EAC issue because of how EAC works. Not even getting into the fact that Epic owns it now and they (really just the sweenyman) are being assholes towards linux recently.

Hell, it's pretty transparent what the issue is considering microsoft had a moment of genuine fucking horror that Master Chief Collection worked great on proton and they gimped the whole thing with EAC around a week before the game came out just to break linux support.

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eba680  No.16881155

File: 96ef540be2ad5c0⋯.png (59.01 KB, 2388x305, 2388:305, NvPVRDRE65bg_firefox_7gmLe….png)

>>16863343

I know this was posted two weeks ago, but I am gonna save this. Did this on my Windows 10 and shit looks great, going to do this on my other Linux machines as wellthat are all mostly servers

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64de9f  No.16881194

File: 10de70d7945913b⋯.jpeg (26.77 KB, 512x368, 32:23, 978deb93db126710.jpeg)

>>16881155

literally can't even see a difference

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eba680  No.16881207

>>16881194

That's because I didn't take a picture after I applied it.

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d99901  No.16882505

Anyone here tried running Lutris as a Flatpak? Most games are propietary garbage, so it's reasonable to go try and sandbox them, Flatpak seems like the most active option out of everything else on the table. Especially when it comes to gaming, which is useful since any papercuts and more serious bugs are fixed relatively quickly.

So, Lutris is not on the official repositories, it is still a beta. You can nevertheless install it and it'll sort of work, but when I tried to add a Wine game and tried to run it, it complained that the executable file was not found and will fail to run it. Haven't found any useful information on the subject, I did ask a few people on Discord It's the only place where you can find Lutris devs and other people who make installers and shit, I don't want it to use it either but gotta eat shit from time to time I guess. but no dice. Here's the repo with instructions on how to install it, build it, eat it, bop it… https://github.com/flathub/net.lutris.Lutris

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faaaf2  No.16882521

>>16882505

I'm not sure you'll get anything with this. you're probably still gonna run vidya outside flatpak

if you're concerned with the things you run being evil, I'd rather focus on getting native lutris to run wine shit inside containerized chroots or something

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cd0b92  No.16882660

>>16882521

This

Honestly GPU pass though is the best option as you can contain your vidya to an isolated VM

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faaaf2  No.16882704

>>16882660

this. it's the shit you'd be running is literally on a different OS

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d99901  No.16883822

>>16882521

>I'm not sure you'll get anything with this. you're probably still gonna run vidya outside flatpak

I've tried out running Steam as a Flatpak already, all games that it launches are sandboxed as well, so that is moot.

>I'd rather focus on getting native lutris to run wine shit inside containerized chroots or something

Chroots are not containers. You can easily break out of them, security was never a concern with these. Literally anything else is better than a chroot.

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c20aa7  No.16883854

ctrl+f

>nvidia: 30

<amd: 27

How the fuck does anyone live without the ACO drivers for DXVK?

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faaaf2  No.16885085

>>16883822

>all games that it launches are sandboxed as well

ok then, great. how does it run with a image with 100+ GB in it?

>Chroots are not containers.

I know

>You can easily break out of them

from what I hear, it's the same for containers. and I wasn't being specific. notice the

>or something

>>16883854

the what?

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d99901  No.16885205

>>16885085

>ok then, great. how does it run with a image with 100+ GB in it?

Fuck if I know. Haven't gotten around to playing the only game in my library that comes close to being that big GTA V and games that big are pretty faggoty anyways. Load times on smaller games were alright though.

>from what I hear, it's the same for containers. and I wasn't being specific

No. Chroots were created a long ass time ago, before the 80s. Modern solutions like LXD are much more secure.

>the what?

Searx and Duck Duck Go are your friends, faggot.

>>16883854

Friendly reminder to anyone running Nvidia with Linux or even Nvidia at all: you're feeding the jew.

AMD has free and open source drivers for their cards while Nvidia doesn't and just uses their Windows codebase. What this means if you're not a Stallmanite is that Nvidia often plays by their own rules and fucks everybody over in the process, an example is their lack of regard for GBM, which means that you can't use Nvidia cards properly with Wayland. You're also going to get weird ass errors because of those drivers at times, while more often than not AMD's and Intel's will just work, because they give a shit about making drivers that integrate with the rest of the Linux ecosystem.

And what this guy here mentioned about ACO is great. In order to play your precious Windows propietaryware that almost always uses DX11, we now have DXVK, which translates DX calls into Vulkan ones; well, this layer makes use of LLVM to compile shaders (programs that your GPU executes) and LLVM is not the fastest at doing this, it's a bit of a jack of all trades. Now, get this, ACO is a far superior replacement for LLVM, made by Valve, not AMD, and this would only have been possible because their drivers are open. Currently, it only works with AMD cards, not Intel's, and not on OpenGL, it depends a lot on the architecture of the GPU it seems.

If you're going to use Linux, make yourself a favor and buy an AMD GPU. Does it look like I'm shilling? Well, it's not like there's much of a choice in GPUs anyway, so.

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faaaf2  No.16885222

>>16885205

>Fuck if I know.

well then. let us know how it turns out

>Modern solutions like LXD are much more secure.

"more secure" doesn't make it "secure". I'm by no means a pentest expert, but I have talked to a lot of people who are. it is doable

>Searx and Duck Duck Go are your friends, faggot.

sure, nice talking to you

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e79ede  No.16885316

Going to see if nuDoom Eternal works

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e79ede  No.16885390

>>16885316

it don't

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d99901  No.16886020

>>16885222

>sure, nice talking to you

Look, if you need things spoonfed to you, you don't belong here.

>>16885390

People are releasing builds of Proton that already work with it. https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases/tag/5.4-GE-2

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763ae2  No.16886088

>>16886020

https://www.protondb.com/app/782330

Too much work for what is likely going to have low performance and a meh game. I'll try later when it's all fixed.

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ef7b8d  No.16886925

>>16882505

>but when I tried to add a Wine game and tried to run it, it complained that the executable file was not found and will fail to run it.

Its due the file you want to run is not set in winecfg with the associated wine prefixes being used, you need to check the harddrives tab and assign a virtual drive to it to fix it. It happened to me a couple times too and doing it fixed this issue for me.

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b6e7ae  No.16887079

>>16886925

No, not even executing winecfg works. I'm fairly sure that is not the issue, given that even Linux native games can't be launched. I've made sure the Flatpak can see the host filesystem too, so I don't know where the problem is.

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000000  No.16887623

>>16887079

Executable bit not set? 32/64 bit fuckery?

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b6e7ae  No.16887850

>>16887623

It's a Flatpak thing, I'm sure of it. All of this works just fine when using Lutris normally, and with the same configuration.

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000000  No.16887868

>using nouveau drivers with GTX 960 on Kubuntu

>refresh rate is stuck at 60Hz on my 144Hz monitor

>changing it to 120 or 144 causes seizure-inducing flickering

>absolutely clueless

help

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b6e7ae  No.16887903

>>16887868

You're running Maxwell, which means your performance will be absolute dogshit because there's no reclocking support in Nouveau for those cards. The latest cards which you can run with reasonable performance on Nouveau are Kepler cards, GTX 6xx and 7xx series. Get an AMD card or suck up to the Nvidiocy and get the propietary drivers.

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9db14c  No.16887918

File: 2fa4564eb9a55a8⋯.jpg (5.21 KB, 131x185, 131:185, 131px_Chcrunchtwin.jpg)

So, do you need Valve's SteamVR specific kernel for index audio? I'm sure I have a new enough kernel based on what it was asking for on the git page, but it doesn't show up as an audio device.

Yeah, I'm aware steamvr on linux is kind of in a fucky way since it dropped to like, one dev while they were working alyx, but still, I wanna make sure I'm not doing anything retarded

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6722c4  No.16888004

File: 477c82b641e5a88⋯.png (266.68 KB, 1916x964, 479:241, gentoo_default_font_render….png)

>>16866378

Just install gentoo and free yourself.

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6722c4  No.16888008

>>16866378

And if you want sharper font rendering disable subpixel anti aliasing and/or use a font/variant with a thinner stroke.

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1e20d5  No.16889372

File: cabf0451f368bfd⋯.png (193.69 KB, 1654x582, 827:291, font.png)

>>16888004

>>16888008

>>16866378

When it comes to fonts, I ended up with one called Bitstream Vera Serif or something like that, Waterfox just set it as a default but it looks really nice, actually better than on Windows. When it comes to stuff like fonts and video/image codecs I just install everything I can find once and then I never have to worry about it again. It's a bloated approach but it's better than stumbling over some missing library or font when you least expect it.

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