I want to use literary level of prose in my game story and dialogs, but in my native language (spanish).Will this be a problem if I translate the non literary parts like menues and other important bits to english?

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Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:29:07 372754 No.16685174

I want to use literary level of prose in my game story and dialogs, but in my native language (spanish).

Will this be a problem if I translate the non literary parts like menues and other important bits to english?

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:31:37 2bbbdb No.16685185

Fuck off, spic.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:31:56 9d50bf No.16685187

Considering I have no idea what the word prose means, you might be asking the wrong people.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:33:15 5b900a No.16685195

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>>16685174

>literary level

?que entiende él con eso?

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:34:57 53a555 No.16685205

>>16685187

Prose just means writing in a natural way; as opposed to poetry, lists, menus, etc.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:36:42 edc676 No.16685214

everything gets lost in translation, so expect bits to not translate properly

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:39:14 372754 No.16685226

>>16685214

yeah, that's kind of my concern.

I still want to try to write my game with the best prose I could write, maybe imitating cervantes, but I am afraid that'll make it kind of only be played by other spics.

I'm sure I could translate my prose into english but I am sure I'm not a damn good native.

I've tried to write shakespearean shitpost before, but not sure if I'm good enough for translating literary gardener prose.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:39:17 bcb75e No.16685227

>>16685174

do you mean only partially translating the game? if so, yes

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:41:52 5ed1b1 No.16685241

>>16685174

>>16685214

Whatever you do Spic OP, do NOT get help from anyone who calls themselves a localizer. And ensure any translation help is focused on being accurate first and foremost.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:42:26 372754 No.16685244

>>16685227

yeah, translating the non literary bits, maybe adding some objective reminder to explain what to do next.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:48:12 38a3f0 No.16685260

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>>16685226

>but I am afraid that'll make it kind of only be played by other spics.

Most likely, but I wouldn't worry about it. Maybe you'll encourage people to learn Spanish to play it properly.*

*Extremely unlikely.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:48:53 e43c1b No.16685265

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>>16685174

>I want to use literary level of prose in my game story and dialogs, but in my native language (spanish).

Depends on how sophisticated a prose you're planning on using (i.e. If you want to write Cervantes, you're gonna have a bad time. Even realismo mágico would be difficult to translate into a video game, more so if you want to translate it to the English language as well.)

>Will this be a problem if I translate the non literary parts like menues and other important bits to english?

Apples and oranges. Translating the non-literary parts is no problem, translating the literary ones is.

>>16685226

Oh well, you played right into the problems I just mentioned.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:49:03 bcb75e No.16685266

>>16685244

i translate not japanese in my spare time, and once i'm out of school i plan to do it professionally. don't go half-assed and get a real translator if you're committed. >>16685241 is being an alarmist, but its true that lots of localization is utter shit–however its also a necessary part of moving a text between languages because many constructions and idioms don't gracefully translate. if you're already bilingual just do it yourself and ask native english speaker for help in preserving fluency.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:49:12 61418f No.16685268

>>16685244

That's what I got from your OP but I fail to see why you'd put in the effort to be literary while expecting a non-spic or bilingual audience. I suppose it may sort of work like some odd half translated JP games where it's functional technically and you can still get an idea of what's going on visually.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 21:52:37 61418f No.16685278

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By the way, does this look like a sleepy bearded Spanish man with a night cap on to anyone else? I was sitting a bit away from the monitor.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:06:16 372754 No.16685322

>>16685268

>>16685266

well, that's kind of the issue with a lot of japanese light novels and japanese media.

they're still kind of written in literary japanese, so localization is kind of tricky.

I can write sort of functional english, but I am not good enough to write literary english or translate literary spanish.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:11:05 c4aeb4 No.16685332

No, Chris, no!!! Get back to the thread, we really are the nice ones over there

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:21:13 5b900a No.16685362

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>>16685322

>literary

>japanese

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:21:23 71dd05 No.16685364

>>16685332

ebin

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:21:55 61418f No.16685366

>>16685322

Why not look into someone local to assist? Is it going to be an erotic VN?

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:28:48 372754 No.16685384

>>16685366

I'm looking at publishers, they seem to deal with localizing, but I am unsure if there's any kind of localizing publisher for DLSite games.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:35:15 43f042 No.16685395

>>16685174

You need to go with Spanish (Spain) literature, classics like Don Quixote, if you want proper prose. Mexico and South/Central America have badly bastardized the language and have largely lost whatever literary traditions they once had.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:36:42 9add53 No.16685397

>>16685395

Thats actually bullshit, and i say it as a spaniard.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:37:00 60444b No.16685398

I'll play your game if it's good.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:38:21 86b555 No.16685401

>>16685397

que♂te♂jodan

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:38:40 38a3f0 No.16685404

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

While we're talking about Cervantes, what other works of his would anons recommend? It's always Don Quixote with talking about him.

>>16685395

That's what he said his goal was.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:40:21 5b900a No.16685406

>>16685404

Don Quixote is the only book ever written in Spanish

a one-hit wonder language

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:41:21 61418f No.16685414

>>16685384

I've seen on rare occasions someone grabbing a translator fresh out of or still in university.

Anonymous 07/11/19 (Thu) 22:42:23 38a3f0 No.16685418

>>16685406

Ah yes, of course. How could I forget?

Anonymous 07/12/19 (Fri) 03:12:07 3878f9 No.16686089

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If you would like it to carry the same depth, I would suggest teaming up with a well spoken native English speaker then discussing the translation in depth, in stead of just trying to get it yourself or expecting some translator to try and figure it out, discuss it, meet in the middle and work with somebody to help you parallel the writing so you can match it the best possible way you can. You just need to articulate what you want, then leave it to the native speaker to put the prose together in a way that fits.

Anonymous 07/12/19 (Fri) 05:34:21 eed9ef No.16686391

>>16685395

>have badly bastardized the language

it happened to english too.

Anonymous 07/12/19 (Fri) 05:52:10 bcb75e No.16686425

>>16685395

bad post

Anonymous 07/12/19 (Fri) 06:05:25 0430c0 No.16686439

>>16685226

> I am afraid that'll make it kind of only be played by other spics.

Is your concern having an audience comprised entirely of spics, or that the market is too small?

Anonymous 07/18/19 (Thu) 11:23:37 784816 No.16703504

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>>16686391

that was actually a conscious effort to establish consistent phonetic spellings for written english that did not yet exist, far different from the clipping of Spanish by the South and Central American Rape-baby mestizos, unless you are talking about pidgin which is less a real english language and more just brown people learning basic terminology for trading purposes.

Anonymous 07/18/19 (Thu) 11:31:51 92755c No.16703517

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¿Pero por qué puñetas iba a estar el juego en un idioma y otras cosas en otro idioma? ¿Qué es esto, japo? A menos que tenga sentido en el juego que estés creando, no tiene mucho fuste, que quieres que te diga.

Anonymous 07/18/19 (Thu) 11:49:12 a4d422 No.16703534

>>16685174

I don't give a shit.

Anonymous 07/18/19 (Thu) 12:44:56 1032a5 No.16703616

>>16685174

1-Do not use idion, argot, localisms or regionalisms and you will be ok.

That is my recomendation.

2-seek advice from someone who knows and uses English regularly.

3-Do not use private jokes or country jokes.

These are the golden rules of works that are easy to translate.

Anonymous 07/18/19 (Thu) 13:35:23 e8f55b No.16703678

>>16685395

>Having disdain for hundreds of fantastic Spanish writers just because they are not from the mainland.

Ya sabía que eras un criajo gracias al dibujo que has adjuntado, pero me cago en mi puta calavera, no seas tan rápido en prejuzgar y cercenar más de la mitad de las obras en castellano del mundo, por favor.

Por otra parte, buena suerte, pero la traducción se irá al garete a otros idiomas con gran seguridad.

Anonymous 07/18/19 (Thu) 15:07:03 7f35d0 No.16703801

Posting in a discord spic thread