67a3a6 No.16610950
So, I've been in a slump lately. I couldn't be assed to finished Yakuza zero, nor atom rpg. However, I was able to pickup and play through the Lisa trilogy.
What make the lisa trilogy (and by extension the games anons return to) good enough to warrant stopping play throughs of other (arguably) superior games?
Sidebar to the current question, how pozzed/redpilled is the Lisa trilogy? In my opinion, as fucking garbage as it is, Lisa is one of the few series that plays both sides well, enough for anyone to enjoy.
b87d01 No.16610971
>how pozed/redpilled.
Didn't you just say you played through them. Think for yourself.
f6e457 No.16610976
Dingaling wants white People to die and hates being white, BASTE
bf33dc No.16610977
Why is it shit? Did it give you white guilt?
67a3a6 No.16610980
>>16610971
But I did anon, I was asking others opinions on the matter. I stated,
> Lisa is one of the few series that plays both sides well, enough for anyone to enjoy.
But feel it can be open to interpretation
67a3a6 No.16610982
>>16610977
Checked
But I never said the game was shit, I said my opinion was fucking garbage.
Pic related is my only guilt
67a3a6 No.16610991
>>16610976
Unfortunate if this is true. Is the game a case of the pozzed going so far to the other side that they make gold?
8f4a75 No.16610994
The series and some of the fan games are fun, just keep in mind that the creator went insane when his dad died and fell in with the wrong crowd. As for what makes them good, they're difficult games that don't baby you, and your actions have real consequences, which puts them head and shoulders above most "morality" games where you only have the illusion of choice.
63bae6 No.16611000
Wait what do you mean trilogy? There's a third game?
bf33dc No.16611008
>>16610982
>as fucking garbage as it is, Lisa is…
That could have just as easily described the game. For all I know you could think the actual game is ass but you still like it because it's based and redpilled.
4ad1f9 No.16611011
>>16611000 (checked)
only three repeating digits friend
67a3a6 No.16611012
>>16610994
Concise, I like it.
So, before he got mindfucked, he was just a really good writer/storyteller and was able to broach the subjects of trannies and gays without being all faggy about them?
>>16611000
First game was Lisa (no subtitle) which was completely different from the other two. You play as Lisa pre-killinh herself. More a puzzle game
Then Lisa the painful
Then Lisa the joyful
7435d0 No.16611013
>>16611000
The Painful is actually a sequel, the first game isn't special or anything just Lisa herself having a mental breakdown.
4c89c9 No.16611019
>>16611000
Lisa: The first. Lisa The Painful. Lisa The Joyful (its not a standalone game but a DLC expansion of sorts)
The last one is kinda shit in too many gameplay aspects, a real shamefor the finale of the whole thing to be so dissapointing
67a3a6 No.16611021
>>16611008
You are skipping the
>In my opinion
Part of that statement. The comma denotes the following statement applies only to the previous semi-statement, and the closing comment denotes that the words after are on their own accord.
Granted, I could've used a semicolon to make it clearer, but no one fucking uses semicolons anymore and I felt like a faggot for using one in the title
8f4a75 No.16611022
>>16611012
From what I can tell, yeah. The trannies in Painful look like dudes in dresses, and the one that joins your party is addicted to drugs.
67a3a6 No.16611029
>>16611022
I particularly enjoy things like that in games. I also noticed the several "homeless" characters (rt being the most hobo-like) have joy addiction as well.
Now that I know the man behind this had a breakdown I'm feeling real sad we won't get more out of him.
bf33dc No.16611040
>>16611021
You also said "what make" and didn't capitalize half the names. Why should I trust your commas?
4c89c9 No.16611046
>>16611029
The context behind it was that the dude was real close to his father, and his father was also real proud of him. Some tife after Lisa the Painful (maybe this was halfway through Joyful development or before that?) his father died. I dont know the cause of death. This hit him, HARD.
Suddenly he was hit by this urge of making him proud, of doing something BIG and whatever the fuck. Its around this time when the bad crowd got a hold of him and started filling his head with the typical stuff. You can fill out the rest of the story from here.
He decides he wants to do SERIOUS things and wha not, drops the name Dingaling entirely for a new more SERIOUS one. Who knows what he is doing these days, i dont even remember what his new company name is.
67a3a6 No.16611050
>>16611040
Well, I guess you have me on that.
I'm just a big ol' queer who speaks like a doorknob humping tard.
I'm sorry if I was unclear, I really enjoy the games, and was just staggered that I stopped playing two other games to pick them up again.
7db170 No.16611064
>>16610950
>why is it good?
it's funny. i only played LISA and The Joyful but the comedy is just really well-done, along with the writing itself just being pretty solid. that stupid fucking forklift scene still makes me laugh to this day. Dingaling is a complete fucking psycho who legitimately lost his mind after his dad died, though, and i suspect he'll kill himself before too long, but at least his games were pretty good before he became a total fag
67a3a6 No.16611065
>>16611046
It's a shame, truly. I can only hope he goes back to what he once was.
67a3a6 No.16611077
>>16611064
Poor Horace finkle, got degree cucked
bf33dc No.16611159
>>16611046
Here's my train of thought reading his Twitter profile:
>what the fuck is Fragile Fighter?
>what kind of company name is Marina Hova?
>why does the animation look like QWOP and Earnest Evans?
>what kind of game even is this?
>why is the girl so ugly?
>he programmed this? Why?
>why is the game credited to some Marina bitch when she's just the ideas guy? Is this some artsy vanity project?
>is this game about loss?
f6e457 No.16611188
>>16611159
Jesus Christ, how fucking gay
67a3a6 No.16611194
>>16611159
So, right off the bat, I notice that it took them 6 board changes to even get to some actual gameplay, never a good sign.
The second thing I notice is that the art style uses the worst parts of flash game art and mobile game art. The characters look like jagged trash.
The effects are uninspired to say the least.
This is highly upsetting, in many possible ways.
170dd9 No.16611205
>>16611159
Lazy. Absolutely lazy. The animation of the game is stiff and lifeless, whoever did this needs to learn that ease in and ease out are things that exist.
bc5dc3 No.16612490
>>16612441
There was LISA which is pretty much just a Yume Nikki type thing starring Brad's sister before she killed herself. Then it goes into LISA the Painful and then finally the one starring Buddy.
d128d1 No.16612567
>>16610950
>why is it good?
because the faggot who made the games came here once to shitpost for a bit and now suddenly he's a fucking legend.
b509a1 No.16612641
>why is it good
A lack of pretension. No shoehorned politics. Compelling story. Very little comic relief (most of what would be comic relief is crap anyways), but I don't care about comic relief. Painful is certainly the star of the show, LISA is its own fun little mind bender, Joyful leaves the realism that Painful achieved behind via little girl killing everyone (albeit hopped up on combat drugs almost 24/7 so still buyable if you reach)
>pozzed/redpilled
Doesn't apply, not games that are attempting to showcase some minority being oppressed or faggot with a heart of gold (the faggot in the party, if you choose to have him join, is accurately portrayed as a wreck of a drug addict) Number 3 in the series exists to provide needed closure to number 2. Number 1 is something one stumbles on accidentally, but it also gives context to number 2. Ultimately number 2 is the star of the series.
5f62f0 No.16612669
b692b7 No.16612703
Because before Austin became corrupted he actually was a decent fellow and he legitimately spent his time honing his craft at making something halfway okay in RPG Maker. Before he set his steam profile to private he had over six thousand hours logged into RPG Maker, and this was back around the beginning of 2015 so I can only imagine how much more time he's spent in there since.
>>16610950
>how pozzed/redpilled is the Lisa trilogy?
Wait, why are you asking how pozzed it is if you've played through the games?? You know the answer already.
b692b7 No.16612727
>>16611159
>all that bullshit
It wouldn't surprise me if in the future Austin completely disowns the LISA franchise. It's rare to watch someone completely normal get turned inside out into some freakish monster this day and age, most are just monsters by nature. But Austin legitimately had some kind of freakish meltdown and was reshaped by hideous faggots into what he is today.
Goddamn, I lament the person he was and I wish to Christ I could slap the taste out of his mouth now. I don't wish him dead, I wish I could sit him down, like a parent, and beat the bad out of him.
b71219 No.16612753
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16611159
That game footage makes me think Painful has more character in a single song than Fragile Fighter has in the entire game
2f349f No.16612770
>>16612669
I feel for him, as he lost his Dad, was close to his Family, but a Heel-turn like that and an absolute commitment to the faggotry as soon as shit hit the fan, kinda shows he wasn't 100% to begin with, which is strange considering what his hobbies once were, he was someone who would absolutely commit to whatever it was he did.
Now he's hanging out with artfags, smoking, letting himself fall apart emotionally and physically. It's fucking heart breaking, it's easy to absolutely loathe some morons, because you always assumed they were always liked that at least initially, but it just hurts, it hurts so bad when it was somebody with drive, now using that drive to utterly destroy himself.
1c1692 No.16612875
>>16612770
The Lisa games were great, but I honestly can't relate to this faggotry even when taking what he went through into account. What a soft poofter. I discovered my dad's corpse as he was hanging from the ceiling and I didn't become a faggot like him. I was a complete emotional wreck for about a year I'll admit, damn near failed at university, but I managed to pull myself back and I never got myself turned into a total queer while in the process. This is how cults operate, they always target the ones who are in a state of hitting rock bottom emotionally and promise them what is essentially a get rich quick scheme to get them out of their problems, but then they just become dependent on the cult.
2f349f No.16612898
>>16612875
Honestly, that might be it, Maybe he saturated himself so much on his hobbies because he couldn't deal, and when the line snapped, he had to look for a new drug. I've worked out with guys like that, had no balanced, and always kept trying to distract themselves, self improvement is never a bad thing, emotional, physical, spiritually, but it always seems like some people put all their eggs into one basket.
ec46f7 No.16612911
>>16611159
>>16612669
This is just depressing to watch
659c3c No.16613259
>>16611159
What happened to that other game he was working on, Ninja Tears? The last mention of it I can find is from an article a year ago, where they also interview the guy making YIIK.
e7cb94 No.16613360
>>16611159
>why is the game credited to some Marina bitch when she's just the ideas guy?
Because like literally every other cuck that's ashamed to be white he's desperate for pussy and thinks if being a footstool will get him laid.
f67213 No.16613363
this thread just makes me sad.
d9adad No.16613365
>>16613259
Probably what happens to most games.
259fc3 No.16613556
I played the first Lisa and halfway through Lisa the Painful. They're mediocre RPGs that faggots gush over because they think dark = deep. Even the humor isn't good, it's lolrandom bullshit makes Earthbound look grounded. Totally forgettable experience that hipsters only care about because "whoaaa it's the darksouls of rpgs bro".
259fc3 No.16613557
>>16613556
*it's a mediocre RPG
The first Lisa isn't even a game.
1c0ed0 No.16615054
>>16610950
>pozzed/redpilled
If that's how you classify things you should just give up now.
4ead02 No.16616437
holy fucking shit kid
I need a god damn status on part 2 of Pointless
384e62 No.16616448
>>16615054
You tell them, /trannypol/.
d78c3c No.16616451
i played it up to a certain point, got bored, and played something else.
Also it doesn't even get to the rpg parts until 20-30 minutes in and starts off as some walking sim with "deep" and "emotional" cutscenes
22c2d0 No.16616495
>>16610991
Dingaling went insane after he finished working on the Lisa games, in part because his father died and it fucked him up hard. Nothing he put in the games was pozzed.
c61bf4 No.16616507
>>16610976
>>16610991
>>16616495
So take it for a "test run" before you "buy"?
fcfcf9 No.16616605
>>16612753
If there's one thing that is undeniable. It's that LISA the Painful had character. Something most games are lacking these days.
fcfcf9 No.16616607
>>16612875
>>16612898
>>16612770
Did he have any friends? Maybe the dude had nobody to pull him up so he fell into darkness.
9e94d7 No.16616631
Gameplay decisions actually made during combat. I usually hate turn-based RPGs as games, but The Painful was actually fun and engaging.
Random encounters are a cancer
59245b No.16616636
>>16616437
As much as it hurts me to say
It's not gunna happen.
d59007 No.16616713
4ead02 No.16624776
>>16616636
Wait what? I thought they were doing the whole remake of the first part so part 1 and 2 would look the same?
2f349f No.16624791
>>16616607
His current friends are basically ironic leftists who indulge in both nihilism, insincerity and liberal ideas. I know he hangs out with ZONE a lot, and a bunch of other porn artists, ironically, it's where a lot of his shitty ideas fermented.
2683bc No.16624869
>>16612727
can I get the rundown on this guy and the whole situation?
dbc55f No.16625682
>>16612727
Kinda reminds me of Spoony.
49b7cf No.16625695
>>16610976
This was after LISA.
e6e4b3 No.16625711
>>16611159
just think of how disappointed his dead father is now. lol
1abf9b No.16626647
>>16612770
Rest in peace Dingaling, It is time for you to sleep.
b78c23 No.16630168
>>16611159
RIP I HOPE HE ACTUALLY GETS THE COUGER PUSSY FROM ALL THIS VIRTUE SIGNALING
Of course it won't happen.
>>16612770
To be honest, I can understand his lack of white pride when their are whites who will sacrifice their children to jews. I don't know how someone hears "muh 6 million" and doesn't say "If you don't shut up, there will be 6 million and 1".
>>16625711
LOL
b64de9 No.16631148
WHERE'S MONSTER UPDATE, ED?
6f7168 No.16633080
>>16613556
Always take your meds anon
00eb1f No.16633145
>>16610950
Lisa is a terrible memegame of no value. But the memekids of nu/v/ don't really care about gameplay, it's all in the ebin cuscenes.
1abf9b No.16633204
>>16633145
You made me see the light anon, thank you so much.
e6e4b3 No.16633367
>>16633145
gameplay doesn't only mean combat mechanics
bc01ec No.16633419
>>16633145
are trying to see how many buzzwords you can put in a coherent sentence?
c66694 No.16633485
>Sidebar to the current question, how pozzed/redpilled is the Lisa trilogy?
People are judging the game after the fact for what the author said.
Before he said it, opinions of the game were overwhelmingly positive.
Although it always was kind of a meme game.
5b03ae No.16633676
>>16633485
>meme game
what's up with this retarded term
b7a16c No.16633692
>>16610950
The game isn't pozzed nor redpilled at all. It's entirely about the importance of family to preserve the future of humanity. If you played his games then it makes sense why the dev broke down after his father died.
e90f13 No.16633703
>>16633676
Gay nu/v/ term.
d93495 No.16633707
>>16633676
Flavor of the month game that is popular with the indie crowd and whose style and popularity overshadow any merit of the game itself. Undertale, DDLC, Cuphead, New Vegas (to a degree).
c210da No.16633712
>>16616437
They put it on hold because they're remaking the first chapter.
9ddeca No.16635789
>>16610950
>why is it good?
It isn't good. It's schizophrenic; simultaneously both "lol so random" humor while being up its own ass with edgy "reality" like how your daughter is being savagely gangraped the entire game off-screen but also you let orphans burn in a wacky fashion and one of the rapists, an apparent bully from before the never explained apocalypse, has an over-the-top goofy design and rides a tiny donkey/deer.
Then it tries to go for a prolonged emotional gut punch in the last 1/3 of the game, especially by the end, but the whole time you're thinking, "Did I really spend all the time climbing a ladder just to get to a middle finger?"
It has an interesting mechanic about sacrificing your limbs for party members' safety only to have to fight through the final stretch as a cripple. That was neat. Otherwise it's exactly what you get on the tin–a confused mess clearly written initially as a joke but later in scripting taking itself too seriously so it can be called "art" by easily emotionally swayed morons.
Also the sequel is worse and the third game is apparently so bad this is the first time I heard anyone mention it.
9ddeca No.16635822
>>16611013
>The Painful is actually a sequel, the first game isn't special or anything just Lisa herself having a mental breakdown.
That answers my question, then.
0c105e No.16654270
Around 2015, Austin used to come here to answer questions about the game.
ecd806 No.16654349
>>16654270
>>16611159
I wonder if somebody says to him that he´s father would be disappointed of the actual state of him.
293514 No.16654360
Game looks like shit but I'll def give it try one of these days. So many people jizz over this game, I suppose I can give it the time of day.
4c5560 No.16654363
>>16610950
>rpg maker games
>good
is this a LOL thread?
b692b7 No.16654366
>>16624869
It's been brought up before in this topic, but essentially it was revealed that the lead character The Painful, Brad Armstrong, was more or less an homage to his own father who ended up dying shortly after the game released. You could tell Austin really, really loved his dad and looked up to him and so when he passed it was an extremely traumatic event that left him effectively vulnerable for all sorts of shitty vermin to latch their claws into him, tell him everything he wanted to hear, and subvert him and his person into the next indie darling hero that didn't have to be some weirdo because some people on an indonesian basket weaving pit stain of a forum thought he was cool - he could be more than that, he could be one of the cool kids, and hang out with the elite, and everything would be okay.
Except it ended up turning Austin from a regular person into exactly what they wanted: some degenerate bastard that believed every drop of kool-aid they drip fed him in silence, spouting off at the mouth the same rhetoric you hear from the limp dick faggots that detest their own skin color and metaphorically castrating himself at the hands and feet of his betters, just so he wouldn't be left alone anymore and he could find some surrogate family, no matter how degenerate.
Like I said, I absolutely lament what happened to him. Austin was at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and those vultures were just waiting for him to fall to pieces so they could rebuild him into just another mouthpiece for their rhetoric. I fucking hate what they did to him.
ecd806 No.16654403
>>16654366
This needs to be a lesson for every anon who wants ro is creating a game,NEVER DRINKING THE (((KOOL-AID))) OR YOU WILL BE SELF HATTING FAGGOT ALL YOUR LIFE.
d54972 No.16654412
>>16633676
Meme is used as a replacement of the word joke, typically done by people who see no deeper meaning to viral repetition. So you end up with idiots who corrupt the language and terminology everyone else uses.
2d33b1 No.16655827
>>16610950
>why is lisa good
lisa is a shitty RPG maker game that has a very uninspired combat system and a host of references that are mostly niche. It is by no means good, but the creator threw in some references that anyone from /v/ could probably catch so everyone was okay with it. The story is subpar, the fact that the actual bad guy is an old man who is mind controlling mutants with a trumpet is just "what" tier, the fact that characters show unnecessary hatred toward each other which leads to them getting to the end of their plot thread only to be like, "oh yeah no I'm not that guy anymore, just fucking kill me," is a shitty way to do character arcs when it's the only arc that anyone has in the game. It could be argued that men without poon start to act up, but the fact that everyone kind of just throws around Buddy like a football which leads to her being a psycho bitch is really something anyone could have seen coming. The dialogue is sometimes funny, but clearly mostly written for that one trick "oh I didn't see that coming" humor.
>Story is non-existant beyond gotta get muh duhtur
>gameplay is sidescrolling until you kill the right dude or walk to the right area, and very easy turned base combat to progress
>spritework is pixel shit, points off forever
If you want a pixel shit RPG with a simple story that seems convoluted, play OFF, if you want a good RPG with some neat systems that makes combat meaningful play Fear and Hunger. Undertale's also not terrible, same story problems but it doesn't act like there's some twist, the flower is the bad guy forever, and he actually interacts with you, your goal is clear and it doesn't constantly slip out of reach, and the combat builds upon itself constantly, albeit being easy because of it.
1e08a8 No.16655849
>>16655827
>Recommending undermeme over lisa
Tumblr pls go