/v/ - Video Games

>>16609859

Native Linux Games

>Steam

https://store.steampowered.com/linux

>GOG

https://www.gog.com/games?page=1&sort=popularity&system=lin_ubuntu,lin_mint,lin_ubuntu_18

>itch.io

https://itch.io/games/platform-linux

WINE/Steamplay

>Windows games on Steam

https://www.protondb.com/

>Any other game

https://lutris.net/games/

>>16609859

>How the fuck do I get my Xbox One controller working edition.

It should just werk, considering most distros have the default xpad module installed.

But, in my experience with certain.. out there distros..

There is sometimes a very common issue of not asigning permissions properly.

Try this:

ls -hal /dev/input/by-id/

post output.

Dont u need the xbox bluetooth adapter for it to work on pc? It goes in to the usb drive slot

So does anyone know what happened a while ago when linus said he was adding a code of conduct and a bunch of people said they would take their code out of the linux kernal? I fell out of the loop around then.

>>16610916

FUCKING NOTHING!!

>>16610916

oh yeah, and stallman is talking about using proper pronouns

>>16610112

I've seen dumber than this this year.

/v/ is beyond salvation.

>>16610112

>>16611007

Not to burst your blackpill bubble, but i'm pretty sure he was joking.

Literally all you need to do in order to get gamepads to work on 99% of linux distros is plug it in.

I believe the post was made in attempt to throw mockery at how retarded op is.

>distro you runnin'

Artix

>games you playin'

Mostly TF2 or Grim Dawn

>rice you makin'

Nothing fancy, using wal to generate a theme for terminals and Steam by using a randomly picked wallpaper.

I still have another install to ready up but I kinda lost motivation the last week.

>>16611083

I'm not pilling anything. It's a fact that /v/ isn't very smart.

Regarding his post, I interpreted him as mocking the term "usb drive slot" as opposed to "usb slot", as that implies only usb drives go there. A pretty minor point in my opinion, which is why I said what I said.

>>16610966

Seriously?

>>16610144

You applied the banners for lutris manually?

>distro you runnin'

Manjaro, I {sh,w}ould change but I can't be bothered to find a good way of moving 600 or so GB without buying an external HDD.

>games you playin'

Quake, Tetris, ZBlood.

>rice you makin'

Manjaro looks nice enough with menda-dark that I'm not terribly bothered to switch to anything else. Other than that it's mostly wallpapers.

>>16611220

You can try changing from manjaro to either Artix or Arch, it's a rather involved process if I recall correctly but it will get you off that shit distro without having to reinstall.

>>16611239

the Xbox controllers are pretty much the best though

>>16610144

>>16610067

i got it working with my steam games now, but not with outside programs. i like to use it as a push to talk as well while playing.

[ruri@ruri-pc ~]$ ls -hal /dev/input/by-id/

total 0

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jun 18 13:07 .

drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 600 Jun 18 13:07 ..

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Jun 18 13:07 usb-BDA_Xbox_ONE_Pro_Ex_controller_0000A8439B030C82-event-joystick -> ../event7

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   6 Jun 18 13:07 usb-BDA_Xbox_ONE_Pro_Ex_controller_0000A8439B030C82-joystick -> ../js0ech/index.html

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Jun 18 13:06 usb-CYKB23_USB_Keyboard-event-if01 -> ../event4

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Jun 18 13:06 usb-CYKB23_USB_Keyboard-event-kbd -> ../event3

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Jun 18 13:06 usb-Logitech_Gaming_Mouse_G400-event-mouse -> ../event2

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Jun 18 13:06 usb-Logitech_Gaming_Mouse_G400-mouse -> ../mouse0

[ruri@ruri-pc ~]$ lsusb

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04d9:2323 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard

Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c245 Logitech, Inc. G400 Optical Mouse

Bus 001 Device 002: ID 24c6:543a  

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

>>16611251

Why is Manjaro shit again? The only issue I can recall is bloat in the default distro.

>>16611282

iirc some maintainer drama and still breaks so might as well use arch directly, still uses systemdick.

>>16611303

Never had a significant break on it to the scale arch does. Systemdicks is obviously a problem, but last time I tried to remove that it fucked my whole system and I had to reinstall.

>>16611282

Manjaro uses modified pkgs and generally breaks the ethos of making the user aware of what config files have been modified and which not, they had their certificate expire twice and even recommended people rewind their system clocks to fix it.

Also the whole idea of it being more stable is idiotic since all they do is wait a week after arch puts out their packages and just wait for arch users to complain or not.

How's Linux been dealing with integrated graphics these days? I'll probably try a live distro like MX or something to see myself. I got me a lot sale on a small form factor PC that I need to get a slim GPU for yet.

>>16611398

Meant to say it has Intel HD 2000 if that matters between Intel/AMD with support.

>>16611398

>>16611415

should be fine, especially if you can disable it in the bios.

only shit like omega still makes linux trip linux sometimes.

>>16611423

Noice, I'll have to remember to do that when I swap in a legit card.

>>16610966

>>16611152

>stallman is talking about using proper pronouns

He thinks all the pronoun shit is fucking stupid, but wants a gender neutral pronoun for convenience.

>>16611315

To do that in a distro meant to be run with systemdicks means that you must have the alternative init system ready and working before removing systemdicks.

A better option is to just install a systemdicks free distro like Gentoo.

I came here to say that I approve of this thread.

Linux gaming is the future and 8chan is based for showing Linux some love, halfchan can't even compete.

>MX

<games on linux

>>>/ricing/

>>16611315

>>16612272

There is a systemd-free alternative to Arch, it's called Artix. It comes with OpenRC or runit.

>>16609859

Linux gaming is for cucks ,btw i use arch

>>16611315

just install Void Linux

>>16611270

>lsusb is getting different results from what ls /dev/input/by-id/ is.

Try this and see if anything changes:

sudo chown $USER usb-BDA_Xbox_ONE_Pro_Ex_controller_0000A8439B030C82-event-joystick && sudo chown $USER usb-BDA_Xbox_ONE_Pro_Ex_controller_0000A8439B030C82-joystick 

Are you running gentoo or arch btw?

>>16613525

The problem with systemd-free distros like artix is they aren't Poetteringware-free, i guarantee that almost all of them still use dbus.

But i guess a background daemon process designed with the main goal of listening on programs with access to a majority of them using root is a non-issue by linuxfag standards.

>>16614304

Woops, ignore that command,

try this instead:

sudo chown $USER /dev/input/by-id/usb-BDA_Xbox_*

>>16613525

Is that project still going? Nearly forgot about it. Remember that 2 projects merged years ago (Manjaro-openRC and a Arch openRC variant iirc) to form Artix and/or Architect-Linux, would be nice to see them alive for the sake of 'choice', although i switched to Void and Devuan based distro's after the whole systemd bull became visible to my knowledge.

>>16614313

At least udev has rules you can write but I get what you are saying. Most of these spinoff distros don't have the manpower to do that though you do have the option to use other udev implementations.

>>16614338

Yes Artix is still going

>>16614339

Are you talking about numbers over an applications icon that corresponds to the amount of messages?

>>16614353

Yes, and/or red dots. Preferably one that does bothsince slack gives a red dot for a workgroup message and a number for a missed DM

This is the year I make a switch to linux only for my lan gaming pc.

For the longest time I have used linux on and off, but always had to have a windows somewhere for lan parties. There are plenty of good games working on linux nowadays and I am do not want to move to windows 10, so fuck it. After all those years, finally going to make the full jump.

>>16614353

>Yes Artix is still going

Nice to hear.

>>16614339

Elementary OS uses Pantheon as DE, only Elementary and Fedora seem to ship it as a/the default option. I dont have experience with that DE although you could build it yourself for other distro's. Otherwise there are some other 'docker' type options for the most DE's via the package manager or seperate D/L; but i'm not sure if it has the same notification marker for it's icons.

>>16614370

Welcome to your second feet on the other side, things have improved a lot over the years, even though i'm not intrested in the newest games for quite a while now it worked out perfectly for me.

>>16614467

Yeah, for Pantheon I'm going to try to get rid of the top bar as that's an obnoxious piece of shit that should be at the bottom but I don't know how to do that on my own

>>16614467

Yeah, things are a lot better these days.

Especially on the driver side of things.

My biggest reason for finally making the complete switch is that I am generally the one deciding the games anyway. And I have a few people who might also make the switch to complete linux gaming. Thus I can chose games that will work on linux.

I also have an arcade setup I am going to convert to linux.

Within 2 weeks I will have my first lan in which I will attempt to not use windows at all. I am pretty confident this will not be a problem.

>>16614500

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon#Configuration ,dconf and or dconf-tools will do the trick; you now can edit the configuration of Pantheon. Probs the move / delet of the bar aswell, as most DE's are strippable/moddable to/from bare bone to fully riced out memory slurping DE's, but then again i dont have any xp with this one.

>>16614513

It has indeed improved a lot overall. Drivers install/work without the need of exessive knowledge/tutorials or are integrated into the linux-kernel completly, really wonderfull. Fucking with all kinds of emulators and the help of wine trying to get things to work a decade ago was a pain but usefull experience. Hope the LAN works out for you, if not its a great learning tool. :^)

>>16614588

I'll try this Pantheon shit out, word up homie

>distro you runnin'

Artix

>games you playin'

GTA III and XIII

>rice you makin'

I just want to plaster cute anime characters on everything without adding too much bloat

>>16612619

>>16613534

I can't believe you were like 19 hours late

Linux noob here.

So I'm thinking of designing a Linux gayming PC using PCI Passthrough. Used Slackware for a few weeks and enjoyed it. How would I progress beyond that?

Any more realistic racing games that work on the platform?

I have Dirt Rally but really need to get myself a controller or something.

>>16609870

humble store has Linux games too (even though they heavily promote faggot games) you nigger

>>16610916

>>16610966

It's a shit development. Now Linux is exactly as bad as Microsoft and Apple and their even greater levels of POZ + "ads are essential part of the OS" + forced telemetry + rent your software instead of ever owning it

>>16609859

>Linux

>Games

>Working

>>16618555

Nope, but proton isn't that bad but i'm not sure what's the true differences between wine and proton.

>>16618509

The way I partition:

>swap is 6GB random key, as OpenBSD does by default

>the rest is password encrypted, with LVM set up as follows:

>>/ is 25GB

>>/var is 12GB

>>/tmp is 12GB

>>/home is the rest

I don't need /boot given the bootloader on flash can deal with LUKS and it's also set up that the kernel/initrd can self-decrypt things once loaded. Also you're right about the swap file especially in my case. I don't usually need the 8GB on this system except as headroom. If a program starts misbehaving to the point swap is used, the system becomes totally unresponsive and needs rebooting. Also /tmp is that big since I use it as a place to download things to without building up clutter in /home it's really nice in that respect.

>>16618815

Symlinks are a godsend for a lot of things.

>>16618755

Useless waste of space is pretty much what you'd get on windows anyway. Can't you wizards just edit the launch command to use whatever wine parameters you want or otherwise activate the binary directly from wine?

>update system to play Witcher 3

>check steam forums for Linux threads

>littered with butthurt faggots white knighting for CD Project Red because le 13% of the Linux forum members are responsible for over 50% of the abuse the company receives

>check non-Linux threads

>literally all of them are constantly dunking on the company because their products are always a buggy mess

tbh the game is OK so far but holy shit what a bunch of faggots

>>16621261

They outsourced The Witcher 2's port to Virtual Programming, who use a custom compatibility layer they modify for each project instead of making proper ports. The problem was that this compatibility layer wasn't in a great state at the time and it led to a bunch of Linux-exclusive problems.

>>16622046

>You buy a good controller you retarded fuck

xpad is a standard driver that works and was made specificly for Xbox controllers, so it literally works with xboxone controllers, i have one and it works fine.

>Or you pair/connect it because there's built in support

yes?

>assuming you're not running a systemd distro.

How does systemd effect a kernel space driver at all?

The only thing i could think of is user permissions, which from most noob friendly distros like manjaro work mostly out of the box.

Only distros i've ever seen where permissions are needed to be changed manually is ones without systemd.

Not to defend systemd in anyway, i just think throwing every issue on systemd is retarded when systemd has nothing to do with it.

Most likely it's an issue with udev, you know.. the device manager…

>>16622092

>How does systemd effect a kernel space driver at all?

FOR GOD SAKES DON'T GIVE POETTERING ANY IDEAS

>>16622116

>Nowadays we use something called udev

Yes, i am aware this is part the reason for the post.

But in the end, all udev does is permission handling for userspace. It does effect the overall driver.

When you stated in your previous post that OP should "by a good controller you retarded fuck" And then stated a userspace permission error as the reason, it sounds quite stupid.

As the true matter of fact is that the Gamepad and driver works perfectly fine. Blaming a userspace permission error on the hardware is dumb as fuck.

>>16622844

It doesn't* effect the overall driver

>>16622844

I'm telling him to buy a good controller because it's microsoft garbage which has largely killed the controller market.

Get something none of the current console manufacturers have made.

>>16609859

>distro you runnin

Gentoo

>games you playin

Not a lot of them on Linux. I play most of my video games on my Switch. The games I play on PC are pretty much Dwarf Fortress, emulation of course, and sometimes an old game that occurs to me. Not a lot of newer games coming out that interest me, and the ones that do tend to also come on the Switch as well, so I just get them there.

> rice you makin

I riced my AwesomeWM desktop like 5 years ago and have only needed to update it once for a major version update and once because I got a Hi-DPI monitor and needed to change a couple lines to fix the scaling.

Setup once and use forever is nice when you get it working.

>>16619821

I tried symlinking every game's pfx folder to my WINE prefix but then they wouldn't run. Have you actually done that and got it working or was it just a quick guess on your part?

>distro you runnin'

gentoo

>games you playin'

Grim Dawn, Euro Truck Sim 2, American Truck Sim, Koikatsu Party, SpaceEngine, Touhou Luna Nights, GTA4, a bunch of emulated games up to PS2 era

>rice you makin'

just i3wm with a different color setup and a matching, modified apple-dark font color config

I have an overheating problem and I'm suspecting it's due to the distro i'm using (Linux Mint 19), system gets hot just by opening firefox.

The funny thing is lm-sensors shows the same temps as when i'm in windows (haven't fully jumped yet due to this issue), but you can tell it's bullshit putting your hand in the exhaust fans.

Yes, i'm using vesa drivers and everything is up to date and i've already searched the net (but the majority of questions are from people with laptops).

i5 6600k, rx 580 8gb nitro

So yeah, coupling this with the xrandr conf resetting every time I power off one of my displays, I'm starting to question changing to another distro.

>>16623899

Symlinks, for all intents and purposes, are transparent to programs except for deletion they're treated like files even if it's a folder link. I have personally used them to symlink games into Program Files so I can wipe the Wine prefix without deleting games inside it. I use them heavily in general, like in ~/bin I have ffmpeg and mpv when they're built from source via the mpv-build framework. /tmp/username is linked into my home folder as ~/tmp similarly.

>>16624089

That's great man but I think you meant to tell that to someone else

>>16624089

for >>16623899

as pointed out by >>16624198

>>16630875

Good.

>>16630875

after shit like mir and upstart and finally caving with their "our way or the highway" to the point they crawl back to fucking footshit you'd think they'd be done with doing stupid shit, but here we are…

>>16631813

>no warning

>after they started their shut down of all 32bit support beginning with XP

>>16632250

>windows

>their decision

Different

>>16632280

They are dropping all 32bit support, not just older windows.

>>16631813

What's the problem, can't we just re-compile the binaries to 64-bit when we take the source co… oh, that's right. What a load of shit. This is why proprietary software sucks.

What is the alternative? I have been toying with the idea of a more minimal, or rather install-what-you-want distro like Arch or Void.

>>16631813

I am running 64-bit Debian Stretch on a decade-old portability laptop. That also isn't pure 64-bit, and supports Wine. Dropping pure 32-bit systems is well overdue especially for a program like Steam.

>>16633720

> Arch is trash. Avoid it and its userbase at all costs, you will never benefit from either.

In what way is Arch trash?

> I don't think you quite get the "install-what-you-want" part though. You can do it in any distro (depending on interpretation), there's this thing called a package manager, and you can just uninstall your way back into a barebones commandline in any distro that has one, or install a variant that is already like that by default such as ubuntu server, or if even an installer is too much (there can actually be legitimate reasons for this) then some distros provide rootfs tarballs.

I get that, but I would rather build my own house on an existing foundation than buy an existing house and then take a sledgehammer to everything that doesn't suit me. I would have to read up on how to fit things together properly. Any recommended resources? I have been using Ubuntu so far because it just werks, but it's a pain to know what to do when things don't just werk.

> For instance if your default shell is not bash, Arch will break.

That is retarded. Ubuntu has dash as its default shell. There is nothing wrong with using Bash when it is convenient, but not everything needs to run on Bash, there are more performant smaller shells.

>>16634330

On a side note, I would be using Guix as my secondary package manager on the new distro. I have been using Guix on Ubuntu and it has been pretty nice.

>>16634444

>In nearly all cases it assumes that you are a redditor who is only using linux because "Oh so its so cool I look like a hacker" and that you worship Pottering

I still don't know what that means, but OK. What attracted me to Void is the premise of a SystemD-free distro.

>When you are using a non-shit distro a secondary package manager is not needed,infact you are likely to just end up making your system more confusing if you try to use one.

Functional package managers (Nix and Guix) solve all dependency hell and breakage problems. I had Ubuntu break on me because the power went out during an upgrade and I had to fix the system with a live boot. When the power went out during a Guix update nothing bad happened, I just re-started the update once the power went back on. If a package breaks I can just revert things with one commands. If two packages have conflicting dependencies there will be no conflicts.

>>16633720

>>16635025

Arch offers optional dependencies for any pkg that has them and of course you can change your fucking shell.

>>16634444

>Language specific package/module management ala pip is exempt from this

On gentoo if you use pip outside of usermode you can brick your system, because portage is based on python.

This makes installing things through pip a bit anoying. Despite the fact that it is standard for all packages on pip to be installable through usermode, there are still packages that won't work.

>>16638074

Why not use the OpenGL renderer?

>>16639622

Because I can't see anything it's super dark. Brightness settings don't work then either.

>>16609870

>Native Linux Games

Wow, it's all pretentious indie shit.

>>16639781

>Mint

>not Manjaro

Pleb.

>>16609859

>distro you runnin'

Manjaro

>games you playin'

Wizard of Legend, Streets of Rogue, Enter the Gungeon, Monolith, Teleglitch, Sub Rosa, Heat Signature(Proton) and Stellaris.

>>16639799

>Wow, it's all pretentious indie sh

And roguelikes.

>>16639806

Ran manjaro for some time. Might go back to it, but backing up my shit takes too much time, and I'm almost certain that it'll have the exact same issues as other modern systems.

I haven't used an Xboner Controlboner, but DS4s work out of the box without any drivers or Steam. Don't use xboxdrv, it's old and basically dead from what I remember when I tried to fuck around with it. DS4s will also work perfectly with a Bluetooth adapter if you have one. >>16611270

That sounds like a Steam thing. My buddy had a similar issue and he fixed it by adding the non-Steam game in Steam. There may be one or two other settings you need to change for that to work, I think it's related to the general controller settings in Steam.

>>16639781

>Mint 17.3 because my hardware is multiple years out of date for modern versions.

What is your dinosaur? Even a Core 2 Duo + 2GB RAM can run that acceptably. In any case, there are other distros aimed at old, low-end hardware. Give AntiX a try.

Anyone know why CODEX releases of 64 bit Steam games that come with a steamoverlay64.dll don't load in wine?

>>16641121

Did you have a stroke while you were tying that?

>>16641563

I have Grim Dawn Forgotten Gods and it works fine but some other games like Atelier Lulua seem to need the Steam Overlay and at least with a clean prefix without any winetricks that doesn't want to load. Disabling loading of steamoverlay in winecfg works with my legit Steam prefix to get around any issues but the cracked games don't load because steamoverlay.dll/steamoverlay64.dll somehow hook into the steam emu.

Disabling it in the steam_emu.ini doesn't work either.

lmao

>>16611414

The people who care about support will not mind switching to Windows 10 because they're too retarded to care about any of the problems with Windows 10. And those who don't care about support ending will just continue to use Windows 7.

I got to try Linux on a few occasions, mostly because I had a few laptops on hand that couldn't run Win7, and considering how much a pain in the ass it was to do simple things like "add a program to your taskbar and make it have the program icon", I certainly wouldn't want to try anything even close to serious on it.

>>16641623

so?

>>16641790

>>16641769

I know your trying to help him lose bad habits, but it just comes off like how nintendo forces waggle shit. There's a simple solution (to the layman at least), that can't be done because arbitrary reasons.

>>16641864

Most kids are too young to know this, but there is actually two schools of interface design. "Object first" interfaces present to you things that you can interact with, and then you have to figure out how you want to interact with them. This is how GUIs work, you see files or links to files and then interact with them. The other, "action first," doesn't necessarily make a GUI impossible but in most cases irrelevant. Command lines are essentially action first because you always describe the operation, and then have to find or specify the objects to operate on. This more useful for people who are familiar with a system because typing faster requires a lot less practice than clicking faster, combine that with wildcards and tab completion and you have a much more efficient workflow after maybe a month of practice. You can't even perform recursive file operations unless you use a command line interface in both Linux DEs and Windows. Good luck analyzing information across multiple files or folders as well. You can prefer object first interfaces and that's fine, but Linux users aren't in some big conspiracy where we troll other users into thinking we like using CLIs when really we don't. They really are more efficient for many purposes and have indeed gotten better since the 70s, although it may not look that way just at first glance.

here is a mix if using up,down,pageup,pagedown and home/end. Accurate scrolling and instant top/bottom jumps.

>>16642017

>thread navigation

While I'm with you 100% for keyboard use, I'd still pin a mouse as more efficient for image-board navigation, up until the moment you open the text editor.

>>16642017

>There is no purpose. It's literally just a placeholder because nothing is happening on the machine yet. Only windows fags care about this stuff I even see them buying steam stuff to have animated backgrounds. I don't care what's on the background because that just means I'm looking at fuck all and doing fuck all.

Why not run an OS with the terminal as the desktop at that point? Something like how DOS or Basic was.

>>16642017

>You had to take your hands off they keyboard and use mouse. This is OBJECTIVELY worse.

Anon, the example is Gimp. Do not fucking tell me that you're planning on using Gimp with keyboard-only. I'm going to need to use the mouse in the first place. And before that, I used the mouse to select the text field I'm typing this in. And to pause a jewtube video. And to select some things to copy-paste in Code::Blocks. Don't start about how tabbing between thirty windows is efficient, either.

The mouse is far more efficient for anything - for swapping between windows, for doing things in said windows, anything. About the only thing keyboard's faster in is keyboard shortcuts, like copy pasting, where it requires you picking something out from a drop down menu otherwise. The only reason to keep both hands on your keyboard is to type something. You've just convinced yourself that typing a word is faster than pressing a button. But hey, you said earlier that launching a program through a terminal was more "direct" than opening it through its executable (or Linux equivalent of one), so at that point, anything goes with you.

>I literally isn't, though unless you have your hand on your mouse already which means you're likely using it too much and need to git gud.

Are you going to tell me that going from a specific point on line 40 in a page to a specific point in line 10 is quicker with a keyboard than with a mouse? What about browsing this very thread? What about doing anything with 3D Modeling? What about image editing? Video editing? Something as basic as pausing and unpausing a video, or pulling up a specific tab in a browser? Are you really going to argue that any of that is more efficient with just keyboard? Again, aside for typing, I never see any advantages of keyboard-only, and aside for two or three button keyboard shortcuts, I don't see any advantages of a keyboard at all over comparable mouse functions.

>the advantages of linux far outweigh that of windows.

And none of it would ever apply to my general use cases. What I want to do is simple, and it's much simpler to do simple things on Windows.

>Also the only reason you ever think that windows is a good environment is because its what you've gotten used to.

I used Mint, which has a very similar layout to Windows in regards to the taskbar. My problems were how getting things done took extra steps. Want your taskbar shortcut to have an icon? Make your own, via the command line. Want to install a program? Better hope that there's a compile for your Linux version, or that one of the compiled ones work, because who doesn't enjoy going through a ten minute process to get some shitty little situational program you'll only need once, for two minutes?

>Examine it objectively (especially 10 which you have to get ready to suck if you wish to stay on windows) and it's clear it's unfiltered trash.

I'm not switching to 10. My programs work as they are. My OS works as it is. If future versions of things won't work, I won't update them. I've used 10, it's a mess, the UI's a pain in the ass and it lags for no reason but at least I could pin a fucking program to my taskbar without the god damn command line.

>You mean getting games literally not even made for the platform to work on the platform?

How about getting a controller to work?

>No, that's windows. That's why I dropped it, too. I actively work WITH the OS to accomplish practically anything I'd ever want to do.

Well, I haven't had to fight against Windows for much of anything yet. Linux gives me a process and a half for basic things.

>Outside of specific industry standard graphically accelerated work there's practically nothing that windows has a monopoly on.

Sony Vegas and FL Studio, two programs I use regularly, neither of which work properly even with WINE.

<just get alternatives lol!!

Sure, I could. But why would I bother, if there are no advantages to me to using Linux in the first place?

>Everything important is run and done on linux, fact.

Which is why many companies buy those expensive Mac workstations for $6000, right?

>They're just not EXACTLY like windows so he thinks they're shit. Windows has rotted his brain into thinking it's the only way or the best way.

And what, pray tell, is wrong with liking the way something is? I thought Linux was all about customization? Why can't I make something be the way I want, easily?

>>16642047

Nigger, I used to work with Basic on a C128, I know enough about command lines.

I'm sure there's shit Linux does that Windows doesn't. I don't need any of that. I just want my fucking video editor to work, and I want to have an icon in my taskbar to launch it. I don't want either of those to be a process, and they both are (and in the case of the video editor, it just does not work properly no matter what you try).

That's the point with Linux. Most people don't need anything super advanced or fancy. They just want to run some programs. And if that's a pain in the ass, the few potential advantages, most of which are irrelevant to most people, are moot at best.

>>16642061

And how many clicks of tab does it take to select the reply box? Sure, if you need to go to the top or bottom, Home and End are good, but how often are pageup/pagedown useful? I like the post I'm reading to be in a specific part of the window, and that's impossible with pageup/pagedown, and by the time you add up and down to it, just using the mouse wheel would have accomplished that ten times over.

>>16642271

>cont

>I'm not switching to 10. My programs work as they are.

I used to be the same m8. Your time is limited to enjoy that. Soon your system will be the hack and virus magnet out there.

>How about getting a controller to work?

For me it's literally plug and play with the DS4.

>Sony Vegas and FL Studio, two programs I use regularly, neither of which work properly even with WINE.

Which you pirated and are closed source. Get out of the loop because it won't last. I'm using open source video editors now.

>Sure, I could. But why would I bother,

Because it's not sustainable.

>if there are no advantages to me to using Linux in the first place?

I'm not gonna go into this again. The advantages are so massive that if you're not seeing them then you haven't tried or don't care to try.

>Which is why many companies buy those expensive Mac workstations for $6000, right?

Tell me a bank, security system, electrical grid, sewage/water sytsem, military tech or big corporate server room that runs off mac or windows in its backend. Microsoft don't even use their own OS for their backend servers m8.

>and what, pray tell, is wrong with liking the way something is?

Nothing

>I thought Linux was all about customization? Why can't I make something be the way I want, easily?

Can you make windows like linux easily? See? Not an argument for the superiority of an OS. The fact is linux can behave VERY like windows but windows cannot even hope to bahave ANYTHING like linux, ever. So yes here there is customisation. You just don't want to even bother looking or trying. And that's fine tbh. I don't even rice much anymore. If a DE doesn't have what I need and requires too much ricing I just use another one. But that's just a DE not the entire OS.

>>16642132

>And how many clicks of tab does it take to select the reply box?

Some. I keep repeating how a mouse is VITAL. This isn't an argument for keyboard-only. Just MORE keyboard.

>but how often are pageup/pagedown useful?

For me personally I use them a TON.

> I like the post I'm reading to be in a specific part of the window, and that's impossible with pageup/pagedown, and by the time you add up and down to it, just using the mouse wheel would have accomplished that ten times over.

Guess I'm used to it. I can get to any point in the thread easily with shortcuts & search. It's really not a big deal though. Again it's a website not an OS. But for documents this kind of thing really plays in, too.

The only reason I don't use keyboard even more on 8ch is simply because the shortcut support isn't there.

>>16642271

>>16642272

Bit off topic but, Blender is the best video editor, with ffmpeg also being pretty good outside of advanced editing.

>>16642310

>20s

<30s

>>16642272

>I used to be the same m8. Your time is limited to enjoy that. Soon your system will be the hack and virus magnet out there.

I've got a machine that's still on XP, go online with it all the time, zero viruses. The whole idea that you need to keep your windows updated or that it's suddenly 'virus central' when M$ no longer supports it is bullshit. Only retards get viruses, and it's not hard to not get them if you're not completely new to using the internet.

>>16641607

>I got to try Linux on a few occasions, mostly because I had a few laptops on hand that couldn't run Win7, and considering how much a pain in the ass it was to do simple things like "add a program to your taskbar and make it have the program icon", I certainly wouldn't want to try anything even close to serious on it.

GNU/Linux is not one desktop environment, regardless of what Red Hat might have you believe. I use KDE and I just drag&drop icons from the application menu into my "dock", and they do have their proper icons. It took me five minutes of upfront drag&dropping work to put my panels and widgets into place after I installed the OS, but that's it. You are bitching that one preconfigured setup was not exactly like some other preconfigured layout. There is probably some Windows 10 rice for Gnome out there if you really need it and are too much of a sperg to take those 5 minutes to set up things yourself.

>>16641691

This guy gets it. I have a couple of icons to click on, but most of the time pressing one keyboard shotcut and typing out the name is faster. You don't even need to type out the full name.

>>16609870

>Native Linux Games

you forgot every DX9 game ever made

>>16642512

>distro you runnin'

Recently switched from Ubuntu to Manjaro

>games you playin'

Spacelords, Hitman (2016), Mordhau, and Monster Hunter: World

>>16642563

Whoops. Meant for OP.

>>16641607

KDE/Plasma does pinning of applications to the taskbar and showing all open windows of one in preview exactly like you'd expect on windows.

Post made with keyboard only :^)

>>16642461

This >>16642491 But without the gay guixSD shilling.

Almost all distros are the same. Saying something doesn't work on manjaro but works on fedora is retarded.

The real reason why it seems like it works on fedora but not manjaro is because fedora was a fresh install and therefore doesn't have anything on it that could fuck it up.

also

>league stop working

Are you double retarded? that wouldn't even be dependent on the distro, but WINE which is just an implementation of WINDOWS libs on linux and various other emulation layer shit.

Windows applications not working is a direct result of wine, not the distro.

If your using lutris it should be simple to get working, if your directly using wine then it's just a quick jump over to winedb. On the otherhand, if your using playonlinux abandon all hope as the script to get league working hasn't been updated in over a year.

I think dicksore has a native linux client, but i'm unsure so i don't know what your doing to get that to fail misserbly.

>also i fucking hate gnome

Understandable, chose a different DE then.

>>16642469

No, don't.

Using a different DE effects nothing but the gui and visuals. It won't change the issue.

>>16642461

>Discord crashes constantly

Fairly sure that's just their garbage client, it also crashes for me at least once per session that I use it. The best part is there is zero indication so if I'm playing a game I'm left talking to no one like a retard for a good thirty seconds or so.

>>16642132

I mean, you know what your editor is called right? In MATE (my personal DE of choice, but I'm fairly sure all of them have this feature) you just press Alt-F2 (changeable) and type the first three or four letters of your app name then press enter. Clicking isn't faster unless your cursor is already close to where you wanted it to be, which is almost never the case for me because I have 2 monitors. I also have shit vision so I prefer not to squint at icons. Obviously some of these things will not apply to you and I get that it's your preference, I'm just trying to make the point that launching an app through an autocompleting text field doesn't take nearly as long as you seem to believe.

>why use a desktop

Why not? I don't need to analyze terminal output all of the fucking time, especially when I'm not at work. It's negative space for the apps that do require me to use a GUI and provides space for me to manage those windows. I can press a hotkey to get a terminal window or even enter a virtual terminal (basically a fake "VM" that allows me to log in again as another user, useful for getting out of crashes or stuck applications) so it isn't like a CLI is difficult for me to access.

>>16642491

This is a meme made up by gay "tech" youtubers, depending on your distro some substantial work can go into packages and their flags as well as the kernel in terms of what was build, not build or made a module.

>>16643120

This is why gentoo is the best distro.

>>16644263

>he uses Ubuntu

Say hi to Jeff Bezos for me.

>>16642461

BAIT

>>16644339

If it was bait, i'm going to have to applaud him as it's very well constructed and makes him seem genuinely retarded.

>>16644263

tl;dr heres the kicker news anyone cares about:

>The Linux landscape has changed dramatically since we released the initial version of Steam for Linux, and as such, we are re-thinking how we want to approach distribution support going forward.

>There are several distributions on the market today that offer a great gaming desktop experience such as Arch Linux, Manjaro, Pop!_OS, Fedora, and many others.

>We'll be working closer with many more distribution maintainers in the future.

>>16644263

>>16644410

I really need to try Arch at some point. I keep hearing it's the best for gaming while crawling through Wine threads.

>>16644419

The only reason it would be better is if you're not using any DE. The distro/packagemanager has nothing to do with it.

>>16642310

FFmpeg is the Swiss Army Knife of multimedia programs. For more than that I use kdenlive and encode as lossless, then FFmpeg to encode it to VP9/Opus or H.264/AAC depending on my tolerance for waiting forever or not.

>>16644263

if one meme loving autist can create an easily installable, performance optimized Gentoo stage 4 and supply a binpkg host then surely Valve can do the same

>>16644434

Some distros use systemd, others don't. Other drivers which may or may not help are also included, etc. I get the point of the "distro doesn't matter" fags in this thread but it definitely isn't quite that simple.

>>16644263

I get their complains but on the other hand I am hoping for a 64 bit launcher or just an improved one that doesn't feel so sluggish from time to time.

The pipe dream would of course be that they open the whole thing up client side which would allow for a very tight integration if one wants it via scripting.

>>16644506

How is an init that is ran once on startup going to effect your gaym?

If it's not a daemon that is requiring large system resources it won't effect shit.

You seem to have misplaced your post, as i was never refering to init or security or distros mattering in that way at all, this man who i replied to only wished to know to what effects would the distro "arch" improve his performance. Infact, i believe this goes counter to your point as arch is a distro which uses systemd heavily, it being better for gayming is a myth but the fact you butted in saying such shit only proves your knee-jerk reaction to anything and everything having to deal with distros.

In this use case, the distro means jack shit.

It is most commonly the DE that is to blame for the large part of overhead caused when playing video games, as it's always running it's own daemons in the background.

Such is the case with Gnome and KDE two of the most egregious in their system resource use.

Arch is constantly belated as being better for games because most of the retarded redditfucks role with some crappy wm like i3, but because they're retarded reddit fucks they'll propagate this as being a win for arch as a whole.

>>16644605

>i3

>crappy

You absolute homo

>>16644610

Did i strike a nerve?

>>16644617

I dont see why i3 is crappy. I prefer sway because it uses wayland but still, it just seems you cant into linux.

>>16644619

Tiling is a meme, you'll spend 90% of your time in fullscreen anyway. Most widely used feature of a tiling window manager is the workspaces and that exists on literally every DE/WM.

Unless your some shitty reddit larper who opens up 50 terminals with cmatrix and want to pretend he's a 1337 h4x0rz.

I3, performance is not questioned. It's just the nature and userbase which commonly likes to jack off to it.

There does exist other windowmanagers, you know? Openbox/fluxbox is a great windowmanager that manages to be both lightweight and not filled with baby manchildren.

>I prefer sway because it uses wayland but still

This is actually understandable. As sway is it's own windowmanager and the devs also make their own wayland compositor.

This one actually has a use, i'll be it a rather niche one.

>it just seems you cant into linux.

That's a rather wide jump in conclusions to make? What landed you at that?

>>16644648

wait, so in your opinion i3 is utter AIDS because you spend too much time on reddit and see spergs there using it but sway, which is a functional clone, is fine?

>>16644672

Yes.

Sway has a reason to exist being a sort of example WM of wlroots a project that is also developed by sway. I don't see i3 making their own implementation of X anytime soo.

i3 is mostly just a dumbed down version of wms that already exist, just made more idiot/ricer friendly.

>>16642491

Well, thanks, you were right in the fact that changing the package manager was the solution, I downloaded it from copr and discord stopped crashing. I don't really understand why considering it's the same version. But whatever, I guess I will stay with fedora.

Now regarding league of lesbians, seems like manjaro/arch is having some problems that other distros don't have. I'm not the only one.

https://lutris.net/games/league-of-legends/

>>16644380

I'm retarded? Probably, but I'm also new to linux.

>>16644725

that's some of the dumbest shit I've read all week

>>16644940

Sure thing buddy, say hi to /r/unixporn for me on your way out >>>/reddit/

>>16644956

>which all have been blocked.

Gnomefags proving once again that gtk+ was a mistake.

>>16621501

I hope to god they have a better inventory sorting system/overview plus one that lag for half a decade when transferring every single individual item between storage containers.

I installed Lubuntu on a SBC and I don't know if its shutting off, going to sleep or having a hard crash. I leave it alone to update and the keyboard and mouse still work but the screen stays off so I don't know if its a hard crash or if the screen is locked.

it feels like using a computer for the first time all over again. Its a nostalgic feeling that I've missed

>>16649672

>Next we need add599 to call Linux fans…

Your the only one here insinuated such.

Also it's gnu/linux not linux, linux is only a kernel.

>>16649695

I once followed a github project that had naked lolis in it's image previews.

Although the dev has long since caved into demands to remove them.

>>16644605

>haha I have figured out your ruse you sneaky bastard

Or alternatively, just maybe, I was speaking from a position of ignorance (and made it clear by saying "I heard" Arch is good for gaming) and didn't have some kind of master troll plan. Hanlon's Razor is your friend.

>>16650416

Your replies make no sense then.

I refered to a DE as being a common cause for issues in my first response, aswell as previous posts by others also mentioning that distro doesn't matter all that much, just what software is being ran.

Your response to my response was one that immediently went to an offensive position on why distros "matter" pointing to a particular system made intentionally devisive and one that many people hate for such a reason.

It was this immediant response in such a way that made me think of you as a joker, maybe stay to your actual concern about performance in games first instead of jumping headlong into an unrelated debate on init.

>games

Finally DoomRL Arsenal with a friend. It's a great mod to play on your own but organizing the resources and having multiple classes makes it even better. Shame it's coded so shoddily.

>>16650413

Know which images out of curiosity, and if the images were hosted on Git itself they may still be in the history. You can doctor the history but Git has strong safeguards against this and it will basically have to be regenerated as a different repository if you need to do that.

>>16650440

You're an idiot that loves to prop up strawmen, I get it. Literally my only point was "there are clearly more differences than package managers between distros" which you disingenuously said was the case. I have never used Arch Linux and my post to that effect was nothing more than idle musing based on what a coworker told me. Based on your terrible diction and asinine assumptions, I'd say you are the ruseman here.

>>16650453

>strawman

Alright, let's walk through the post histora shall we?

>>>/v/16644419

>first post, talks about arch(distro) being more performance better with wine(wrap layer/emulator)

>>>/v/16644434

>my post replying to it, saying distro wouldn't matter and points to the DE, no swears just clean language without any offensive position taken

>>>/v/16644506

>straight up mentioned systemd, nothing that would effect the specific workload (games)

>""distro doesn't matter" fags" using language that takes a straight up attacking position while mocking the other poster (me)

>>>/v/16644605

>my reply, of me thinking of you as purely a sperg fitter/indivisual who wants to stirr shit.

<in hindsight, instead of ignoring you like i should have i instead tried to point out such reasoning

>points out the rash jump to systemd(init) from what would normally be a graphical workload(games) and mentions that something more graphical (like a DE) would cause more issues then something purely text and ran once on startup (init)

<granted now with the knowledge of the post previous i use simmularly decenting attitude/language because fuck it.

>>16650416

>lol i was just taking it out of ignorance, why you gotta be such a hardass i only Heard from my distant cuasin's relative boyfriend denice!

Nitpick this for me so i may understand where i went wrong.

From my side of things it seems pretty close cut that you wanted to make an example of systemd being a reason for distros mattering (honestly your right but it's something off topic entirely.)

Where i was trying to keep on subject, games would generally be effected more by something more tasking.

I also have troubles with your claim on "runs better" to what is this dubious state compared against? debian?

>idle musing

That doesn't explain >>>/v/16644506 Where you seem to take a very, very hard stance. which also doesn't make since because arch uses systemd.

Your overall point makes no real connection to your original question of "does x perform better at games/wine?"

Games being the original topic, why is it that you had to mention init is beyond me.

>>16650504

You are fucking delusional. Nowhere in my post did I take any hard stance or imply that any component of a distro or distro itself was better than another. If you can't see that you're literally pulling an opponent out of your ass and pretending I'm him, you may wish to consider seeing a psychiatrist for paranoid schizophrenia. If you think I'm going to read your massive greentext analysis of my meaningless two sentence posts, then you're even more delusional than I thought when I wrote this post.

>>16650504

>imply that any component of a distro or distro itself was better than another

alright this is what a strawman looks like.

Never, never once ever did i ever say any distro was better then another or imply that you did. I pointed straight and directly to X and DEs as being a main fault. Never the distro.

The post history is right there, where the fuck are you getting these ideas? Point to the post and exact phrase please.

>>16651889

>If you think I'm going to read

Oh, So your a nigger then.

>>16651936

No, but I am glad that you didn't write another literary criticism essay analyzing the posts of an anon who had no stake in the discussion. Manage your fucking autism and realize I don't give a shit.

>>16651946

>Manage your fucking autism

Where do you think we are?

>>16651969

>its le imageboard culture for me to drag you into an argument you never gave a fuck about by shoving words in your mouth when you literally only wanted general opinions about arch and for hyperbolic morons to stop saying package managers are the only thing that differentiate distros

I'm sure you wonder why the board is going to shit on a regular basis. It's because of anons like yourself.

>>16611414

I plan to move to Linux before the end of the year. Not that I actually give a fuck about the support meme, I just want to make the move, and I figure the end of the year is as good a time as any.

My biggest issue is that switching to Linux is going to fuck up my entertainment system setup.

I still can't get Linux to run a fucking PLEX server that can connect to my NVIDIA Shield TV console correctly.

On the other hand, the Steam Link app solved the game streaming issue I had, since Nvidia's streaming app seems to hate Linux.

>>16652341

Yeah it's a bitch trying to get them to cooperate. But that Nvidia shield is great once rooted, with a few emulators on it. And I've played quite a few games from my couch with that thing that I probably wouldn't have played sitting at my pc desk, so getting it to work is a necessity, but like I said, getting plex to communicate is my last major hurdle.

>>16639722

it's supposed to be dark faggot

>>16652370

Depending on the distro, Plex can be setup with some ease. If on Manjaro or Arch, you gotta set permissions for plex to view the folder and pull the media. On Ubuntu or it's variants, I'm pretty sure it works the same as Windows. Dunno about the others though.

>>16631813

>nude sixteen old

shoo anon shoo

>linux

>gaming

>ever

top jej

>>16654705

what game is that on the pic?

I heard Diablo 1 got reverse engineered and put into an Open Source version. Any news how it runs on linux?

>>16664230

see: https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX

and if you're somewhat interested, you can play it on the bing bing wahoo because of some e-celeb https://github.com/lantus/devilution-nx

>>16664237

>Credits

>Blizzard North - wait, this was a typo!

This'll be fun to re-visit if it's fairly complete. But it seems to be not 64-bit clean and cross-compiling sucks.

>>16664358

Oh, shit. I forgot that this was the Linux thread. Sorry. XD

But in fact I DID notice that Unreal (same engine) had the same issue on Linux+Steamplay. It's like the brightness slider is turned all the way down no matter what.

>>16664417

>I've tried most at this point anon. All too dark. I'm ok with software render anyway.

Have you tried going into the in-game settings and moving the gamma slider a bit? I have found that in some cases that causes the gamma to be applied correctly and I can move the value back to where it was meant to be.

Switching resolution and gamma is one of those things Wine keeps fucking up all the time.

>>16664922

Unless I missed it for a frame your wallpaper is totally safe.

>>16664363

No, he's right though.

Linux software is insane to try to install outside of package managers.

/v/scape works well since it's just a java game

>>16670672

What did he mean by this?

>>16670672

>>16673112

./configure
make
make install

<oyvey

gcc program.c

OYVEY

>>16670672

you can also RTFM.

all software will have detailed compile instructions along with dependency requirements

>>16673040

Gentoo breaking because its package manger is made in a scripting language exclusively used by Indians is a tale many a user has lived.

But try to not specify a python USEFLAG if you did, let the tard maintainers handle it.

>>16673402

This is assuming it's a rational and self contained program only using standard libc.

Pretty much every linux program is made using external libraries, which often get dynamically linked.

In this case, your looking at sourcecode, which is actually the only rational part of linux programs, compiling things this way allows you to easily recompile software using your local library version without any issue.

The real issues start when you start looking into binaries. As those are not as easily handled, universally binaries from one distro won't work with a completely different distro unless someone has put in a lot of effort to hack around it. Distros and their package management aren't universal, there are many differences on how one distro might manage it's packages, and how another distro might do so.

There is no real easy way to get a binary to run universally unless compiled statically, which defeats the entire point of having any local versions installed.

It's one of the big reasons windows sucks on performance, you have to have 5 or more or so versions of a specific dependency just to get 1 program to run.

This is one of the pitfalls on opensource (or maybe it's backhanded strangth?), it's like modding a video game, they always build on each other causing you, the end user to do the long running to fetch all these dependencies.

In the case of souce code, it's no sweat because you'll hardly ever need to search for a specific version unless that software has undergone major changes. But with binaries it's a massive fucking pain.

Add to the fact that most vidya is proprietary so it's not like you'll be able to compile that anyway, unless you really, really love tuxkart.

The only easy way to sort out the massive pain in the ass that dependencies/libraries cause is to use a packagemanager that handles all that natively for you specified distro.

There have been a lot of projects striving to in a sort fix this issue, such as: flatpack, snaps, appimages(best one imo).

The issue with a lot of these is there is little adoptation for them, and they can never replace a native packagemanager as the native package manager controlls important system software such as Xorg or wayland if your gay, sudo, linux(kernel), gnucore utils, init, important services/daemons, and much more…

often these replacements just end up making their own entire sandboxed root system, like running a somewhat complete operating system inside of an already complete operating system.

>>16675215

>Downloading binaries instead of source

What is wrong with you?

>There is no real easy way to get a binary to run universally unless compiled statically, which defeats the entire point of having any local versions installed.

>What is LD_PRELOAD

Obviously the package manager is better,it exists for a reason.Your complaints aren't really valid though.

Also it deserves noting that the package manager isn't a god and anything it does can also be done by you.

>>16675324

>obviously package manager is better

>your complaints about installing things without it is invalid though

unix braindamage.

>>16675331

There being a better alternative doesn't make something "insane to try", retard.

Your complaints are invalid because they are based on the nonexistance of methods that you are ignoring.

>>16675360

>they are based on the nonexistance of methods that you are ignoring

I felt to mention tarballs, flatpacks, appimages, fucking snaps, I'm sure theres others out there but honestly…

Talking strictly binaries, what did you expect? What did i forget to mention pip, or the fucking retarded scripts that edit your PATH to include their makeshift install in the home directory ?

Well, there theres that… what the fuck are you talking about "nonexistance" and "ignoring".

Being the subject is "installing software outside of package managemers" I would expect no involvement from specific distros, such as ports on bsd systems or what ever guix has, .debs and what not..

Ever tried using Nvidia's own shell script to install their drivers? Or how about those folks who do vmware? How about fucking STEAM? It's not good unless you happen to run the distro they all direct their support to debian in which case it only sort of works.

Yes, you can get this stuff to work on other distros by hacking it as you've mentioned, anything a packagemanager can do you can. However, Doing such is a huge waste of time that could've been spent doing other things.

It is insane to install things outside of packagemanagers because it's utter nonsense, the only method that has been widely agreed upon is makefiles, and those deal with source code (the only thing anyone can agree upon). It doesn't help when your trying to install some 10 year old proprietary game built using libraries now extinct.

>>16675456

>>16675215

TL;DR: Proprietary software is shit

The only reason proprietary software just works on Windows and macOS is because one company controls the system and developers can reasonably well assume what is installed and where. At least until that company changes something, because then were are back where we are on Free operating systems as well.

>>16678938

I made a mistake, sxhkm has its own folder for configuration files. Its configuration goes into ~/.config/sxhkm/sxhkmrc

>>16679340

for

>>16678981

>>16678938

>Though at least 56% is C

Kek you cheeky cunt

>>16679340

No mods yet, just experimenting with graphics settings. Getting a bit of screen tearing and some lag with the Havok engine, though my shitty CPU is likely the culprit.

I am running mods with the other games, though, and they're doing fine.

>>16679340

I played New Vegas modded without too much difficulty just in Play On Linux. My mod setup was based somewhat on the STEP guide.

Some of the mod installations scripts don't work though, so even with Mod Organizer you'll need to do a lot manually. I think trying to install normally from a fomod file was guaranteed to crash MO, but it's been a while so I may be mis-remembering.

>>16670672

>>16664362

Only shitty software is hard to install. It's really that simple. If the programmer is a faggot who doesn't care about you using his software, don't use it. I don't get this idea that all Linux software is bad. Sure, there's plenty of bad software out there, but I don't just assume that all Windows users on this board install Bonzi Buddy.

If it's a binary compiled for your OS, you don't have much of an excuse for not being able to install it. Software which must be built from source is rare outside of unfinished projects nowadays. Even then, every single piece of software I felt I needed and had to be compiled from source (I can count those on one hand) included a readme which said "Extract files to folder, run configure script, run install script." Developers aren't this alien race of people that tolerate 5 hours of busy work just setting up bullshit software. They want to be able to get that shit out of the way and focus on what they care about too. So it behooves them to make their own install process reasonably fast for testing.

Is anyone here playing their games on Wayland? I'm on Artix and having Sway as a daily driver, haven't observed any real issues so far.

>>16679984

>No Wayland implementation called yutani

a shame really

>>16680263

Real life has some humor after all

>>16679340

Not really sure what you are on about though, i3 handles multi monitor and gaming rather fine, in fact from my experience the "modifier goes over anything else" tends to work out better for badly behaving applications compared to say Plasma or something.

>>16644834

>Manjaro

There's your problem mate, you're following the flock instead of looking a bit more into it.

Reviews exist for a reason, and Man-jerry always ends up a stability nightmare.

I'll go easy on you since you seem to be new to the Linux game, but this site helps a ton:

https://www.distrowatch.com/

>>16682212

Cinnamon is actually an alright desktop, it's ui is very intuitive and well responsive it's just too large, bloated, and prone to crashes

>xbox one

Use a USB 360 controller you tubro nigger. Even the most obscure distros with no drivers supported generic USB input devices.

>>16691341

i think the reason is mainly just that there's a common belief amd has better opensource driver support than nvidia. the nvidia blobs are actually great for gaming/emulation though from personal experience. it's probably just ancient memes at this point though unless someone can point to real open source driver bugs in a comparison or something, but to be safe amd for open source, nvidia for blobs is the common knowledge.

>>16691394

Nvidia doesn't have native vulkan support, it's done all through emulation. This is a fact even across to windows.

This makes it not as useful for linux users who wish to run dxvk and wine, aswell for literally any high demanding vidya.

They're not bad, but it also lacks LOTS of support from the wider opensource community.

Meaning if something new came out for your graphics stack Nvidia users would have to wait to get that cool update, or nvidia can just decide to never update and you'll be left without it forever.

There is also the case where nvidia's proprietary drivers will drop support for anything that isn't the latest graphics cards because they're fucking jews that want you to shill out a shit ton of money every release cycle.

In my case, i got a gtx750ti which runs fine but has been losing support and features ever single update.

>>16691341

>besides proprietary blobs + telemetry?

It's mostly because they are asses. But also because they prevent any meaningful changes in the way graphics works and are pretty much the sole reason every distro still uses X.

But also >>16691449 It comes mostly down to how well supported nvidia cards are, and nvidia tends to just give linux the bare-minimum but just enough to be better then the opensource drivers.

>>16691341

I'd say it's mostly because nvidia are assholes that often enough run off to do their own stupid shit and and then pout when the kernel or for example Wayland project tells them to fuck off.

Aside from that I'd lie if I were to say that their closed drivers don't perform reasonably well on X and I have not run into any specific problems with them excluding some minor "oh the dkms didn't pick up this kernel because the headers aren't installed".

They still don't support Wayland though.

>>16691341

That's really most of it. They also intentionally and intentionally release drivers that specifically make performance worse for older cards to "encourage" people to upgrade. While AMD willingly works with FOSS and gives whitepapers to devs, Nvidia is actively antagonistic. If you want good support with free drivers for a modern video card, your only real choice is AMD.

AMD's drivers, community support, FOSS work, and ethics aren't the best I've ever seen, but compared to both Intel and Nvidia, they're in an entirely different league.

Don't support Nvidia or Intel unless you really have to.

>>16642967

Ripcord has a Linux client. As well as there being a native Linux client for discord. Ripcord is great, but the notifications on it are pretty limited. And also, does anyone know what’s a good video editor? I don’t really like keen live, but someone mentioned FFmpeg.

I guess in turn I should mention that if you’re illustrating, you’ll want to install Krita.

>>16692679

FFmpeg is a commandline encoder/decoder, useful in scripts but not good for traditional editing.

If you wanted something more functional then what is basically windows movie maker for linux (kdenlive) then blender or some freemium software like davinci…

Blender is probably your only real choice for an Opensource video editor, but it's not exactly straight forward applies to basically anything fsf

>>16692679

Actually, i'd like to make a correction to >>16692696 I recently decided to take another look at alternativeto.net to see if there were anything else and i found a bunch of over editors that were also opensource. Such as PiTiVi, Cinelerra and Olive. I don't know how well either of these perform but it looks like they got more features then kdenlive has.

I'd like to call to attention an open source engine reimplementation. OpenVIII, https://makipl.github.io/OpenVIII/, still in a state of early development, but it looks promising and also means easy to use mods for final fantasy 8. maybe someone will get to fixing the game

Have any of you managed to run older versions of RPGMaker like XP or 2003 with Wine?

I don't want to use a VM since that would be a pain in the ass having to move sprites and everything around all the time.

Can someone explain to a newfag why Kubuntu and SystemD are bad?

>>16692679

Lightworks

>>16693346

>Kubuntu

KDE is bloat for some people. It may not seem like it if you are new to GNU/Linux, but there's a plethora of window managers and some desktop environments that are far more lightweight (the code is smaller and consumes less RAM/processor).

If you aren't a minimalist autist it really doesn't matter that much.

Also, Kubuntu is based on Ubuntu. It's like the Windows(r) of the Linux world. The distribution is popular, targets the least common denominator, has a lot of bloat and unnecessary shit, and the real deal breaker: has a shady company behind it (Canonical is really not a company you should trust).

>Systemd

It's bloat and an overly-complex piece of software. It adds a new hole layer of complexity to your system and thus a larger attack-surface for malware and CIA nigger's backdoors. It's really not something you should worry about that much if you're not a GNU/Linux enthusiast.

If you are new you should just ignore the autists for a while. You may consider hearing them later when you are more confortable and used to how GNU/Linux works, since they are right about what they say.

>>16692755

Like i said: "useful in scripts, not for Traditional editing"

You could make a very very robust edit using only ffmpeg since most editors are just frontends to it anyway. But in the case of it being simple and in a traditional manor, it sucks. Because a traditional editor has multiple work layers, snip tools, dedicated preview and on screen previews.

Now, i have in the past managed to make a nice setup where i could just edit a script in vim and have it output a live preview in mpv from ffmpeg and i can definitly say it's 100% possible to just edit using ffmpeg.

Hell, if all you wanted to do was snip and concate footage together then ffmpeg is easy as shit.

Complexity with filters, layers, and shit like croping. Ffmpeg can do it, just not in a easy way that a gui would be able to do.

I don't use anything else but ffmpeg as it's just more convenient for me to just modify a pre-existing script i have that fits my needs then having to way for a gui to load up then go though all the annoying menus just to get something usable.

>>16692755

>you've yet to provide an alternative

Alright.

Well, first off. The main reason as to why that's hard is because of the way opensource is done, every single lib, or w/e has a split development only touching eachother by a mere coincidence that they all still use old unix standards.

The only reason they are comparable with each other is that they can be compiled to be compatable. Souce code can be interpreted/compiled aimed at a specific configuration.. when that configuration doesn't match with another binary you get an error, which would need that program to be recompiled to work.

This is the issue, and linuxfags seem to misunderstand that heavily.

Things are not cross-compatable naturally, it's compilation that allows source code to be abused/hacked around to allow it to work. Working strictly with binaries prevents ALL OF THIS.

It's why when you run voidlinux+musl that you can't run nvidia drivers, because nvidia drivers don't have their source freely avaible to be compiled with musl.

It's just a natural drawback/strength of opensource development, It has jack shit to do with anything package management and more to do with source and how retarded developers are to think they can just pump out one single binary and be done with it.

byte code probably has the most promise of not having to deal with this shit, but it's also high level which cases needless slowdowns..

It's a common computer science thing, speed things up by removing layers of abstraction, make things easier but slow them down by adding layers of abstraction.

So with that…

I'm going to be a faggot and say android has a good way of installing/managing packages. Using .apks you can install everything you need quickly and effectively with little effort.

I know, i know inb4 >andriod

But I'm being 100% legit here, nothing using gnu has been capable of pushing out a single standard of package management outside of GNUmake, whereas linux/andriod was able to do one right off the bat.

This is because of a combination of I'd say two major things

1) no split development

Libs and what not have a clearly defined upstream, this gets rid of a lot of the "distro" kerfuffle.

2) no unix braindamage or keeping old shit for the sake of not breaking some mainframe made in the 1900s.

Everything was made clearly with a baseline architecture and standard in mind: needs to run on shitty arm devices that are low power. Gnu/Linux are built on desktops which have a HUGE backlog of retarded shit handed down from the old IBM compatable days, and the sourcecode of these projects reflect it.

Now, this isn't a fit all solution(obviosuly) or alternative, because asking for something like that is asking for the impossible and it's fucking andriod.

You will always need some specific shitty package manager or some other fucking retarded extra dependency simply because.

Source code manages to fix lots of things but introduces headaches at it's expense.

The reason why theres such a split, headaches, anoyances and other shit with linux is a direct or indect result of allowing anyone to use the sourcecode. It's a strangth when needing to build something fast, it's a downside when needing to install anything and is why package managers exist.

Basically, just use your fucking native package manager because it's the only thing made with your configuration in mind, don't for fuck sake try any go beyond it because you'll only land yourself in library hell.

>>16693346

>Kubuntu

kubuntu back than was kinda shit how they maintained it and KDE especially (only reason people chose the flavour to begin with). if you wanted KDE the recommendation was to either go with neon or opensuse. dunno if that has changed by now but I hear way less complaining about kubuntu so it probably does what it's supposed to do now.

>SystemD

trying to plug a hole by building a goddam house on top of it. it started out as fixing some legit issues, but grew like a fucking cancer trying to be a userspace kernel. due to it's size and policies (they do some retarded shit and when people point it out they rather deflect blame than think about why it's shit. for example the whole rm fiasco or default google DNS - people still give ubuntu shit for the amazon integration, and that was just search queries). with the size come even more problems, but the biggest issue so far is that it's pretty much mandatory for most distros, and if you want to use those there's pretty much no way around it (while you can in theory it's simply not worth the effort, might as well pick a different distro alltogether).

>>16695689

>it's pretty much mandatory for most distros

This has long since not been the case. The main reason why it was ever "mandatory" was because of systemd's logind, which controlled userpermissions, etc… There exists many projects that have split off this functionality from systemd into something much smaller and more manageable.

Elogind is gentoo's own fork/split off that has been edited extensively, it removes the harddep that was systemd's logind.

>install void xfce on media box I just built

>fuck something up and the user I set in the installer doen't seem to exist. cant log in

>try again with MATE version

>installer reports success, but have to force shutdown because reboot doesn't finish after ~20 min

>power back on, still greeted by broken xfce install

I think I need to format my nvme drive before running the installer. problem is the liveusb doesn't seem to have fdisk and I can't tell if cfdisk can format. plz direct this brainlet, I wanna learn but I think I'm in over my head.

I'm going to have to do this all over again when I finally ditch win7 on my main pc

>>16700100

Stop being bad at computer.

>>16699997

>void

>>16700100

>gentoo

Stop messing with meme distros, just install something mainstream and noob-friendly. Mint, Ubuntu, Elementary, Solus, Manjaro, anything like that.

>>16700100 (checked)

What you need to do is install a distro and then tweak it until its "cozy" and you don't feel compelled to distro hop. If you're installing something, leaving it near vanilla and thinking "god I wish things were different" you're more compelled to hop, and it's stupid because you're only going to get it into a state you like after some tweaking. As soon as you see something and find it annoying, find out how to get rid of it/change it/etc. Pretty much all noob distros are hideous on initial install, your first actions should simply be getting all the software you need on it to do stuff, and then use some free time to start ricing it.

>>16700264

I actually know of at least one organization that uses Gentoo, because the use case is network booted thin clients that need to support things like a web browser and office applications. In that context the OS and applications need to be heavily stripped down to work in RAM only. Ideally I'd also be using Gentoo but the time to compile everything for my system would be too great, so I only self-compile a few programs with -O3 -march=native such as FFmpeg.

>>16700508

I just had to fresh install after a failed update and largely decided not to copy my old system's state. It didn't take that long to get it to how I wanted it. I use Xfce with some extra key bindings for window management and multiple workspaces. Also true full disk encryption.

>>16700264

Void isn't a meme distro. Gentoo definitely is though, along with any other source-based distro.

>>16701289

Void's certainly less of a meme than Arch.

>>16700264

>>16701289

>>>/4um/

spyware on gnome. watch out fam

https://thehackernews.com/2019/07/linux-gnome-spyware.html

>>16699997

>the user I set in the installer doen't seem to exist. cant log in

login as root then add a user or check if the user exists under a different name.

As root you can change the password easily.

>>16702443

>EvilGnome malware masquerades itself as a legit GNOME extension, a program that lets Linux users extend the functionality of their desktops.

Oh geeee It's like having your desktop made in javascript and extended using the default webbrowser was a bad idea…

>>16703197

They came close with Windows 98 and Active Desktop but that only does HTML.

>>16702737

>>16703197

You think that's bad?

Linux is based off of Unicucks and uses C brain damage. Gross.

I installed Artix earlier today, trying to dualboot with Windows 7. I installed it on the same drive as my Win7 installation thinking that the installer would do alright creating a partition for Artix. Now my Win7 bluescreens and reboots after selecting it in grub and I cannot access the drive from within Artix (saying "Unknow error when mounting").

Did I just break my Win7 or can it be salvaged?

>>16704435

If you picked "install alongside Windows" you'd be fine. But reading what you said you installed over Windows 7 it self, it's probably fucked to hell and back.

>>16704514

Basically format the drive, install Windows 7 again then boot up from the Artix usb or whatever you use and pick install along side. This should give you the option to split the Windows 7 partition and pick how big the partition should be.

>>16704519

The drive Windows 7 is on*, this includes the partitions Windows makes when installing, shit like the boot partition etc.

>>16704514

I did select install alongside Windows. The first warning sign I saw was that it said the Windows 7 partition was only 100MB, and I ignored that. It's a 500GB HDD with over 300GB free space, I set the Artix partition size to 100GB.

>>16704529

>The first warning sign I saw was that it said the Windows 7 partition was only 100MB

That's only part of it, likely boot or backup shit. I forget exactly how it works but that is not your actual installation partition. If that's truely the only thing left on the drive of your previous windows install then it's ded. If you're serious about dualbooting I'd invest in a seperate SSD. It's how I did it for years, selecting whatever OS I wanted in GRUB upon boot.

>>16704532

windows is notoriously shit during install, for example win10 requires you to create a partition over the whole drive beforehand, else it will create at least 2 partitions for itself, if not 3 (boot/system/restore). there is no way to prevent that besides simply not giving the installer the option.

once that shit is running it's usually not that big of a deal - unless windows fucks up again or you have to reinstall.

>>16697476

except people have problem with it as a whole, not just parts (and most of it you have to replace yourself).

my point was it's still easier/faster to just pick a distro that doesn't have it to begin with - which limits your choice quite a bit.

>>16704529

install windows in one big partition, then resize it and install linux in the now empty space. this way when shit fucks up a /fixmbr usually makes windows bootable again.

>>16704529

>The first warning sign I saw was that it said the Windows 7 partition was only 100MB,

Yeah that's the bootloader parition for Windows 7, that's not Windows 7 it self. With a bootloader that is that fucked you can say good by to your current installation of Windows 7. But you could still access the the partition Windows 7 is on to back-up shit if you need to.

>>16704542

>That's only part of it, likely boot or backup shit.

>>16704556

>Yeah that's the bootloader parition for Windows 7, that's not Windows 7 it self. With a bootloader that is that fucked you can say good by to your current installation of Windows 7.

Yeah, I figured as much when I was looking at that page on the installer, guess I had a lapse in judgement when I ignored it. At least my mind was working when I thought to backup my important shit to my secondary 2TB drive before attempting the install. Thanks for the responses.

>>16704532

>Your linux install is still ok, right? If so take this as an opportunity to stick with it exclusively for a while.

I think I will. Hopefuly I can figure out how to get things installed easier, Artix may not have been a wise choice for a first distro outside of dabbling in Mint and Raspbian.

>>16704605

I'm trying to get it but holy shit I'm getting dependency problems and missing files out the ass for almost everything I try besides pacman. Can't even get wget to work.

>>16704659

I'm not sure what your OS comes bundled with. Try

sudo pacman -Syyuu

>>16704659

>>16704665

another to try is pamac

>>16706976

Are you using Wayland by any chance?