4a0391 No.16606808
My current wireless is dying, and by "dying", I mean that I'm using the on-screen keyboard to type this fucking sentence. I need a new one, and preferably one that isn't wireless garbage, and advice on what to avoid.
b95937 No.16606813
Unicomp with buckling springs.
3fc21a No.16606822
>>16606808
If you're a poorfag, just get a K120. They're disposable.
4a0391 No.16606832
>>16606822
My budget's about $50, which unfortunately makes the other suggestion unaffordable. I'll probably settle for something like that, but I have mediocre experiences with logitech and wanted to know if other anons knew something about them I don't.
f852c7 No.16606833
>>16606813
I can only speak for the original Model M, but the ones they make with trackpoints are pretty cool.
9455b9 No.16606841
Just buy the one on which typing feels best and looks better built in the $5-$20 range at your local PC part store or Walmart. It will probably be more reliable and last longer than any "gamer" or midrange stuff.
298c18 No.16606845
>>16606808
I've got a Dell SK-8115 that came with my previous computer. I've used it for over 10 years with no problems.
f98e9d No.16606847
>>16606808
As an HTPC enthusiast who only uses wired devices, I recommend the cheapest keyboard(s).
3fc21a No.16606853
>>16606832
$50 is about half of what a good mech would cost, so you might as well just go as cheap as possible since you aren't picking up quality at that price. K120s are $9, and as far as membrane keyboards go, they're fine.
90583a No.16606861
you didnt provide any feature requests, so im going to assume you want a basic keyboard.
if you want a mechanical keyboard get pic 1 related. your computer has a ps2 port, right?
if you dont want a mechanical keyboard just get a cheap microsoft or logitech keyboard. if you want to get a really cheap keyboard, get a dell one like pic 2 related. you can easily find one for around $5. thats what im using.
done.
9455b9 No.16606868
>>16606822
>>16606853
K120s are shit even for their price range. Typing on them feels bad and the keys get super mushy in a very short time. Basic Microsoft branded wired models, for example, are much better, but there are other models from no-name generic brands such as Genius that are also better.
3fc21a No.16606871
>>16606868
>Typing on them feels bad and the keys get super mushy in a very short time
This describes literally every vanilla membane keyboard, don't even try to pretend that it doesn't.
90583a No.16606873
>>16606853
high quality periferals are definitely nice to have, but if youre not going to go for the 'best" you're 100% right in going for the cheapest.
reminds me of the threads talking about the latest features of the latest $200 mice.
meanwhile im using pic related.
>>16606868
>2019
>able to feel your finger tips
get aload of this guy
you remind me of the guys that drop $300 on an AR trigger because it "snaps like an ice sickle"
4a0391 No.16606875
>>16606861
I did think of one relatively superfluous feature I'd "need" – Japanese support, which substantially limits my options, I suppose, as a quick glance at JP keyboards tells me that a 1500￥ keyboard is approximately $40-45 overseas.
90583a No.16606878
>>16606875
how did you not mention that? thats a pretty big fucking factor in picking a new keyboard.
here, get pic related.
000000 No.16606880
>>16606875
Can you just use Japanese IME?
4a0391 No.16606881
>>16606878
It's not a particularly important feature to me, so it didn't slip to the front of my mind, but it's about the only mechanical quality I can think of that I'd care for in a keyboard beyond functioning well.
>>16606880
That's what I've been using, and is one of the reasons why I didn't mention JP support as a critical element.
9455b9 No.16606884
>>16606871
Partially true, but that doesn't mean they're all exactly the same. Some typing feels shittier than in others, and some take longer until keypresses turn into pure mush. Probably due to differences in keycap design, plastic and membrane quality.
90583a No.16606892
>>16606884
a metric i've found to be true is that the smaller/lighter the keys, the longer the keyboard would maintain its quality. the heavier keys usually get "mushier" faster unless they have proper springs under them, but those are usually pricier.
the kind you guys are talking about dont usually have springs.
f23300 No.16606897
>>16606881
>That's what I've been using, and is one of the reasons why I didn't mention JP support as a critical element.
Most people use IME, honestly I can't think of anyone that doesn't use IME. Google IME is a popular one.
3fc21a No.16606914
>>16606873
>the guys that drop $300 on an AR trigger because it "snaps like an ice sickle"
Geisselefags are insufferable. If you've ever described your trigger as "breaking like ice" or have used the phrase buttery smooth framerate you deserve to get hit by a fucking bus.
>>16606884
>Some typing feels shittier than in others
At the end of the day it's all varying levels of shit on the low end, go cheap, save your pennies, and then eventually buy something nice.
8bd95a No.16606919
>>16606875
>>16606881
nip layout keyboards split the spacebar for autistic shit
cherry mx is not the best, gateron and kalih clones are better, remember that.
3bc610 No.16606924
>>16606873
WMO is still a great gaming mouse that will allow you to play 99% as good as anything that costs 7 times the price.
t. wmo pro
>>16606919
That's debatable, when it comes to QC Cherry is a huge cut above the Chinks.
58554b No.16606930
>>16606873
>>able to feel your finger tips
How would you touch-type otherwise?
Do you just look at the keyboard the entire time?
90583a No.16606934
>>16606914
>Geisselefags are insufferable
imagine shuddering at the thought of "milspec".
5e4eac No.16606939
Any advice for keeping laptop keyboards in good shape? I use canned air to get dust and other stuff out from under the keys, but sometimes a key here and there will still be less responsive than the rest when pressed from a certain angle.
61e169 No.16606940
Filco. Japanese made mechanical keyboards with no bullshit. Can even get them in Multicam (I did).
7763d8 No.16607454
>new
no. $50 will get you a used but good condition logiitech g11, g15, g19 or even a g13 if you want that gorilla hand shit.
all of them except g11 have a cool lcd on them and dont look like overdesigned autistic rgb shit unllike all the new keyboards. they're non-mechanical, but feel pretty nice. pair with an mx518 mouse for nostalgia.
c205bb No.16607460
still using a rosewill rk9000 from like 8 years ago. it's fine, nigger key rollover is nice. should be a standard on all keyboards
07a936 No.16607506
What make mechanical keyboards special? I think I never had one, with now using a Cherry RS 6600 UBS one. Are really mechanical ones that good, or its only something specific?
347bd3 No.16607514
If you want a cheap and usable mechanical keyboard, I like the Corsair models in the $50 price range. They have newer cheaper switches than Cherry MXs which are a meme and not designed for games anyway.
347bd3 No.16607516
>>16607506
It's just much better force feedback. It's like the difference between trying to jump up and down on the ground versus a trampoline.
5b6d5e No.16607520
>>16607506
They feel slightly better to use than membrane ones, less likely to miss your input, and less likely to fail, total failure is extremely unlikely since even if a switch does fuck up, you can just replace it individually.
I have a very old G11 which has one key's rubber dome failed, but it still works otherwise, a G710+ with brown switches, which is a very nice but pricey mechanical keyboard, and I bought a chinkshit full mechanical keyboard for my father that types a lot and always had keyboards fuck up. The chinkshit is James Donkey 619, also with brown switches, it's holding up fine and despite the retarded name has good reviews. Costs like $50-$60.
My favorite and the one I'm using now is the G11 though, I just like the layout of the extra keys and media buttons more. Been using it like 9 years now, almost non-stop.
575435 No.16607527
The keyboard brand is not as important as the mechanical switches the keyboard uses.
If you're not using mechanical switches you are going it wrong.
I prefer Cherry browns myself. They require little pressure to use, offer the tactile feedback a good keyboard should, but don't hit you with an overly loud clicking noise (some people like it, but I myself type loudly enough as it is, so I avoid it).
Also, they're great to clean, since the keys clip off with a special tool and snap right back on again.
This pic should help.
Second pic is what I use. I got it for $50 dollarydoos, so you should be able to get it for about $30 burgerbucks.
347bd3 No.16607544
>>16607520
Apparently I am retarded. I meant to say Logitech, not Corsair. I think it was because the keyboards have similar model names. The one I use at work is the K840. They also have newer switches I believe.
be1db4 No.16607623
>>16607527
I used to have a CM Storm with blues, damn thing broke down in less than 2 years
I've been using a cheap Rosewill keyboard with blues ever since, lasted 3 years and counting with no issues
maybe I got unlucky but holy fuck that thing was garbage
61d77e No.16607632
>>16607527
Blue is the best for me, I love this clicking and it's not very hard to press down at all.
efb418 No.16607673
>>16606808
just grab an old ps/2 keyboard, I'm still using a 18 years old keyboard and it still works like the day I got it.
9449e0 No.16607679
>>16606930
i type with gloves on all the time. its now hard. you just remember where the keys are.
kind of like learning how to type. do you actually feel where each key is?
3fc21a No.16607686
>>16607506
Whatever you do, don't fall for the linear switch meme.
1f763d No.16607692
I have a Razer Blackwidow and it's incredibly durable despite pouring water and tea with honey in it. You could probably get away with pretty much any mechanical if it has infrared switches.
9449e0 No.16607706
>>16607527
to clarify, the "bump" is the feeling of pushing the actual key at about the halfway point in the press, and the "click" is just the noise, right? and the force is the number, the higher the pressure it takes to trigger the switch.
if i have that correct, i would either want clear or brown. are there any other factors to consider?
>>16607686
i dont understand why anyone would prefer that. i mean, for me a big part of getting a mechanical keyboard is the feeling of that "bump" so why get a switch that just goes down smooth and activates in the middle? do people prefer it just because it's quiet?
ca8d5e No.16607709
>>16606808
qpad mk50 with red switches, worked well for 5+ years so far
3bc610 No.16607756
>>16607706
Quiet and better for people who bottom out their keys all the time. I'm currently using membrane shit after my blue chinkboard failed, but I'll probably get reds next.
347bd3 No.16607838
>>16607706
I have quiet switches and they still feel way better than the membrane shit.
9449e0 No.16607873
>>16607838
well, membrane keyboards have a "bump" feeling. although not the same, it still gives the feeling of a soft "click" when you push the button past a certain point.
3fc21a No.16607887
>>16607706
>to clarify, the "bump" is the feeling of pushing the actual key at about the halfway point in the press, and the "click" is just the noise, right?
Yes and no. Both have a tiny bit of travel before you hit a wall, and overcoming that wall will jump the key forward to the actuation point, with blues having their high-pitched click. It's not just the click though, the bump itself feels different between the two, with browns it's softer, with blues it's very crisp. With good earpro on, you can still easily tell the difference between the two just by feel. For vidya, browns with o-rings are maximum comfy.
>i dont understand why anyone would prefer that
They're heavily marketed to gamers who don't know any better.
>>16607756
>Quiet and better for people who bottom out their keys all the time
Reds and blacks aren't quiet if you're bottoming them out.
9449e0 No.16607890
>>16607887
>browns with o-rings
with o-rings? is that a commonly advertised feature? i've never heard of it before.
3fc21a No.16607907
>>16607890
Reduces over-travel and softens the impact when you're bottoming out keys (like, say, hammering skills in MMOtrash). Not required, just a nice little upgrade.
ad1d4a No.16607921
I got a DasKeyboard Pro with brown switches as a Christmas present and it's officially the best keyboard I've ever used in my life. I would never, ever recommend spending as much money as they're asking for one and if I had paid for it myself I'd probably be pissed that it doesn't dispense handjobs, but as it is it's got great switches, feels good, it's small, and only adds media keys and a volume knob (things I want) and doesn't have a wall of stupid macro keys or a bunch of dumb fucking neon lights on it or whatever. I love it so much.
166bbc No.16607928
>>16607890
>Muscle of the anal opening. Can be easily ruptured through violent anal sex
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=o%20ring
3d5cc0 No.16607934
>>16607907
>>16607890
O-rings are a meme and don't actually improve anything.
3fc21a No.16607935
>>16607921
>doesn't have a wall of stupid macro keys or a bunch of dumb fucking neon lights on it
Corsair officially blown the fuck out.
9449e0 No.16607957
>>16607921
my keyboard glows red and puts razor to shame with tastless edgy design. pic related.
it was free and i still regret my purchase.
9449e0 No.16607979
>>16607963
the most annoying part is all the letters on the keyboard appear black if the LED isnt on. and every time i put my PC to sleep, the led doesnt come back on.
also, for some reason i cant trigger the bios screen with this keyboard. i have to plugin a seperate keyboard to do it while this one is plugged in. its like its drivers have to load after i sign into windows.
4990f2 No.16607981
>>16607963
>denounces capitalism
Is that satire?
805090 No.16607983
>>16607963
I would not have even known he was a gamer.
6f536c No.16607997
I bought this on sale for about $25 two or so years ago, and I've put it through way too much shit I've put any keyboard through in that time. It's marketed as spillproof and sure as hell seems to be, as it's shrugged off enough glasses of water already. The f4 key backlight quit about a month into owning it but I'm not gonna throw a shitfit over a key I've only ever used in maybe 2 games. The only downside to some is that it uses cherry blues, which doesn't bother me since I've always liked how they've felt.
13b365 No.16607998
>>16607963
can't be a GAMER if he respects women and minorities.
347bd3 No.16608009
>>16607979
Are you sure that your USB controller firmware isn't just out of date? Check the downloads page for your make and model of motherboard. Otherwise that would be a catastrophically bad keyboard design… not that I haven't seen those before.
9449e0 No.16608022
>>16608009
to fix the problem i just use a different usb keyboard. works fine. even if plugged in at the same time. i'll slap F8 to disable driver signing on the gaymer keyboard and it wont ever go into the boot screen. i plugin a different keyboard and i'm fine.
4a0391 No.16608024
>>16607997
It's funny that you'd mention that board, since it was the one I was thinking of settling on. It's got a lot of good reviews, I'd like to try cherry blues, and it seems durable enough.
3fc21a No.16608046
>>16607934
Oh they're definitely a meme, especially with how expensive they are (putting a $15 bag of o-rings on a $60 board is nigger-tier), but there's a noticeable difference with/without.
>>16607963
B-b-b-b-based.
d3ba5b No.16616379
>>16608046
O-rings are 2€ for 120 with a keycap puller. Where the fuck are you buying yours from?
8bd95a No.16616390
>>16607921
>with brown switches
lmao
461441 No.16624090
Requesting the newest mouse info-graphics
My current is dying.
Any recommendations appreciated.
53bf87 No.16625150
>>16607527
CM Storm is great, I'm using a rapid and its remarkable how such a good keyboard can be so cheap. It's got like a steel plate running through it that makes it feel like if I tried to snap this over my knee I'd just send myself to hospital. My bf won some stupid expensive corsair mechanical keyboard in a tournament that RRPs for 200 bucks, and it doesn't feel nearly as robust. I don't like the print font though, it looks stupid, and after maybe four years the paint has started to peal off the case.
>>16607623
Broke in what way? What did you do to it? Given how I've treated this thing I thought that would be pretty close to impossible.
8bd95a No.16625337
>>16624090
The shape & weight of the mouse and I guess quality control matters more, mouse sensors have surpassed so fucking hard (see: https://sensor.fyi/list/) you don't really need to think too hard about it and also realize that a lot of mouse reuse almost the same parts like the microswitches in the buttons, the new fucking gimmick these days is to put holes in the mouse to reduce the weight.
d74a50 No.16625406
>>16624090
You could try to repair your current one instead of paying like 60$ for a new one that lasts like 1-3 years before built-in obsolescence on the chinese microswitches kicks in.
141ab7 No.16626407
>>16606940
overprice shit
enjoy your weebtax gaijin
d10677 No.16626726
>>16626407
Considering its built better then the several other mech boards I've used I'd say no, its not overpriced. I paid $125. You get what you pay for.
196755 No.16626737
>>16625337
>speedholes on mice
Now I've seen it all.
8bd95a No.16627140
I think the one that got me the most is mouse bungees, I truly don't get them.
>>16626726
They're selling for like 200 dollarydoos or maybe I'm looking at the wrong place but eitherway, it's just a cherry mx keyboard with a plastic enclosure. It's not too special like a matias, topre, flaretech.