9ef839 No.16604599
>DDR tracks
>steps in beat to the music with uptime and downtime, varying tempo and pauses depending on the track
>custom Stepmania tracks
>autistically hammering one or two buttons every 16th or 32nd of a beat depending on the BPM
Bemani in general is even more dead than the rest of Konami in the West, where can I get my rhythm game fix?
16ef24 No.16604620
Might want to try one of the idolmaster games or even miku.
9ef839 No.16604664
>>16604620
Any options for people who aren't gay?
563351 No.16604699
>>16604599
What I absolutely hate about games that depends on community tracks like Osu! And the such is that they don't have any fucking idea on how to make, let alone balance, a track. They either completely depend on the handlebar or are aimed towards PC/controller scheme instead of actual mat/arcade inputs.
Try Crypt of the Necrodancer for a quick fix.
>>16604664
Project Diva is legit a really good game.
I also had a quick fix with Theathymh Final Fantasy Curtain Call or however you write that.
If not, I guess you have to settle with stuff like rock band or guitar hero.
Rhythm games on the switch never ever
474394 No.16604704
>>16604664
Anon, the only other rhythm games still being produced is the shit coming out of Worst Korea and China, and Just Dance. You're options are limited.
bbb7f9 No.16604748
9ef839 No.16604756
>>16604699
>Necrodancer
Indie pixelshit really rubs me the wrong way.
>Theatrhythm
Looks like a Final Fantasy-themed Ouendan, might check that out.
>Rhythm games on the switch never ever
Wasn't there a Taiko no Tatsujin released on it recently? I don't know if it was any good or not but I don't own a bing-bing-wahoo box.
>>16604704
I don't mind playing older ones, I just want something that isn't DDR, Beatmania or Pop'n Music.
474394 No.16604796
>>16604756
DJMax
Theatryhtm
Vib-Ribbon
Superstar Dance Club #1 Hits!!!
Rhythm Heaven (Go for the Japanese versions)
PaRappa the Rapper
Lumines
Cool Cool Toon
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan (Elite Beat Agents)
And, everything Harmonix has worked on/started.
474394 No.16604798
>>16604756
>Taiko no Tatsujin
Forgot, that series too.
bbb7f9 No.16604801
I finally have an excuse to post these.
d4890a No.16604896
>that one fat weebo kid at the mall who would make the DDR machine his bitch
It was always amazing to see that much meat in motion at that speed.
bbb7f9 No.16604908
The surprising part is how the fat kid never lost weight.
4e9189 No.16604929
>>16604664
There is Maestro! Jump in Music, but the devs were whiny faggots when they realized how easily their game could be pirated. It was fine though.
4e9189 No.16604933
By the way, gamedev question here:
What makes a Rhythm Game good? It can't just be the track selection or everyone would just play Audiosurf day in and day out.
704a2a No.16604938
>>16604896
I knew a kid like that. He was fat as fuck and played DDR all day.
e7c706 No.16605086
>>16604933
The track selection does actually matter a lot if you want player retention. Also though I would say you need satisfying gameplay. All the little sounds and lights or whatever your specific game has have to look nice. Take Osu! for example. Mappers can change the note hitsounds but most don't because the standard clicks are satisfying to hear and are very audibly separate from the song itself so when you string together combos you get that dopamine rush. You obviously need a wide range of difficulty as well. Player created content will keep the game alive long after it's usual life. If you are talking about arcade style games it needs to have good smooth/responsive controls. There are probably many other things that contribute to making a rhythm game good but these are just the ones I can immediately think of.
460c22 No.16605241
>>16604850
what the fuck that's not the starian everyone knows. not my gameplay
>>16604933
non-shit music is important. I couldn't play a game full of spicshit reggaeton and nigger hip-hop and rap music.
What makes rhythm games fun for me is when the charts actually make sense. For example, I always hated Konami's DDR for its retarded charts (can't hit notes by alternating feet. big gaps in charts, annoying announcer). they did eventually step up their game as time went on. However, ITG was always much better, until Kikenami sued them off the face of the Earth that is.
For Pump It Up (pictured in vids) charts (almost) always flow nicely (YMMV for pre-Exceed charts), you can hit every step alternating your feet 95% of the time (except for special charts like Join the Party in crazy), and turns and crossovers actually make fucking sense. And there are higher levels of difficulty. I'd say the top-dog dance-pad series by far (It even has nip songs in latest releases). Andamiro even put Konami's to shame back when when they put out 'Pump Pump Revolution' charts (see mp4 related. btw that's only a Lv9 chart. PIU goes all the way up to 29). Only downside is it's a gook series.
bbb7f9 No.16605244
>>16605241
Starian from Dance Dance Revolution 3rd Mix Korean.
bbb7f9 No.16605731
>>16605241
Also, not sure if you even knew Techno Motion which was the first to add the Starian YOU know.
3c065c No.16605917
>>16604933
Good music is a big one. Now that is pretty subjective, but having good variety of genres and styles is more easily quantifiable and helps a lot since people can play what they are in the mood for and different types of songs can test different skills. For me, what also makes a rhythm game great is how well the gameplay matches the song. I want to feel like I'm actually creating the song with the buttons I'm pressing. Having the notes matching very clearly with the guitar/drums/vocals or whatever is super important for creating a rewarding experience. For example, Project Diva is one of my favorite series. Every note you hit is very obviously something in the song (usually vocals), which really creates a sense that you're becoming one with the song if you play well, and likewise missing notes makes that part of the song you're playing not play. Now compare that to something like Audiosurf, which as far as I've seen barely matches the music at all. It's like you're just listening to music while doing something completely different. There is a big disconnect between song and gameplay. I don't get the appeal at all.
Customization is also a great thing that can make the games more enjoyable. Like Project Diva has tons of costumes for the characters, and other kinds of cosmetics items. DJMax is another great series. It lets you change things like the note visuals, the position of the note track, and the look of the note track. Not just in visuals too, having a selection of hitsounds and the ability to turn them off/on is a great addition. There are a lot more things too, but the last I'll mention is having a good difficulty range and curve. A lot of the fun of these games is getting better to the point you can play shit that doesn't even look possible with ease. Having a good smooth difficulty curve with plenty of variety to help the players get up to the hardest shit is very nice to have. I've played some games where there is one or a few really fucking hard songs that are so much harder than anything else I wasn't sure how you would even build up to having the ability to play it.
460c22 No.16606355
>>16605731
I know about TechnoMotion. The company that made it (F2 System) had already received help from Andamiro (PIU company). Thanks to Kikenami's lawsuit in 2000, Andamiro got F2 to make the next PIU version (Extra). It was the first version brought to the west (albeit illegally because it was for domestic use only), and turned PIU into an international hit, hence my previous post.
bbb7f9 No.16606390
>>16606355
I see, sadly TM didn't get much love, it was my favorite of the bunch, I could only rescue most stepcharts and recreated the songs thanks to some friends who had the short versions and that team stepmasters later which closed down pretty quickly.
in those days anyone with arcade editing tools was an arrogant prick that hoarded them for "status."
bbb7f9 No.16606406
>>16604664
Too bad Bust A Groove isn't exactly bemani but it has a level of interactivity that no "controller" dance currently has, now is just characters in the background doing the exact same dance during the whole song despite the player's input.
5d8f44 No.16606420
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>>16604664
You could finally pick up that dusty guitar or bass from the garage while getting some weeb stuff via customs.
Rocksmith counts as a rhythm game right?
5d8f44 No.16606425
>>16604801
>>16604850
>>16604906
Hey wait a minute, didn't Stepmania have those DDR dancer models? Or am I hallucinating false memories again.
27d074 No.16606495
>>16606425
You can install them and turn them on or off.
bbb7f9 No.16606506
>>16606425
I never used them before.
5d8f44 No.16606543
>>16606495
>>16606506
Hmm makes sense, I copied the program and a shitload of songs from a friend so he probably had them.
f78856 No.16608030
>>16604664
Beatsaber, but with that you need to be retarded enough to not know how to handle your money. Worth it if you know you like rhythm games but most headsets are too expensive to justify a purchase.
b43533 No.16614287
>>16604599
custom stepmania tracks may have suffered a "power creep" of sorts where stepfiles became more and more extreme as time went on. fags like staiain did nothing to help prevent this.
you may want to try to sticking to stepfiles and songs made before 2010. the Over a Frail Dream pack may be a decent place to start: http://east.stepmania-online.com/Over%20a%20Frail%20Dream.zip
9fda3f No.16614296
>>16604664
>Any options for people who aren't gay?
Idolmaster
9a7b9a No.16614298
>>16604620
>>16604699
>project diva
>normal difficulty is pressing either x or circle over and over
Not what OP wanted.
>hard difficulty on anything post ps3 is autistic mash feast
Theres no in-between with the japs.
9ea0d9 No.16614300
>>16604699
the switch has cadence of hyrule and necrodancer
4307b9 No.16614307
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>>16608030
Console headset would be cheaper, but then you would also lose access to all the free custom songs. So not probably worth it either.
8b81ba No.16614310
>>16604704
I still can't believe it's getting a Wii release. There's enough people buying that game for Wii to justify supporting it?
poor WiiU getting cucked by his brother
4050fe No.16614316
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miku FT and miku diva series are the best rhythm games.
the notes make sense, its not hard for the sake of being hard. difficulty greatly depends on the song and its potential to be difficult.
plus it has cute girls.
also that drum game is pretty good if you buy the drum but i like the miku games alot more
4050fe No.16614346
>>16614298
normal difficulty is pressing either x or circle over and over
"normal" is just a grade for each song. there are some songs that are harder on "normal" than other songs on extreme. the star rating is the difficulty rating. just look at "a single red leaf" on extreme compared to streaming heart on normal.
the songs usually use about 3-5 inputs on easy (circle, X, directional right/down, and the analog stick/touchpad stars. 3-7 on normal, and 8-12 on hard+. diva has an emphasis on getting certain parts perfect. very hard to win many events without nailing those technical and chance zones and hitting large combos.
future tones difficulty and button variety greatly depend on the song.
3b1e4f No.16614347
>>16604664
>idolmaster
>gay
>when the game is about a 30-something year old man whose job is scouting beautiful girls of all ages youngest being 6, oldest being 32, having them sing and dance in front of him, then picking the best ones to make money out of their literal blood, sweat and tears
this nigger
baffdb No.16614351
For the record, stepmania is like that because Pad support was/is shit. Not to mention the lua dickwaving contest.
9a1454 No.16614388
im gonna say it, and not be ashamed of it…….. eurotrash music was perfect for this games. nothing will ever beat it
3df8fb No.16614391
>>16614347
I tried watching Cinderella girls last night, but the seeming lack of plot bored me.
Does it get better?
366c91 No.16614429
>>16614310
Why are people still buying Wii games? How are enough people buying them to keep active support? Why do you have 832 screenshots from mpv?
ea9b0a No.16614435
>>16614391
The anime is mostly just fanservice for people who played the games and know the girls. I think it's worth watching for the Sachiko and Nana episodes.
8b81ba No.16614441
>>16614429
No idea. I never delete anything.
7b27b8 No.16614524
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>>16604599 (Checked)
>DDR tracks
6726f3 No.16614837
>>16614429
>>16614441
I think that the only thing which changes in Just Dance stuff is the track list, so they just swap in the new versions' and send it off. Costs them practically nothing in dev and they still get enough people buying them to turn a profit.
3df8fb No.16614841
39a892 No.16614880
>>16614837
Don't they still have to match inputs to the beats of the song, or do they have algorithms just generate stuff automatically? It looks like they still have to make some new models to match some of the song themes at least.
39a892 No.16614886
>>16614310
The worst thing about this image is the support for Stadia.
563351 No.16616885
>>16614298
>anything post ps3 is autistic mash feast
Only played the PSP and PS3 remake plus the sequel and they are solid. Couldn't give any less of a shit about the following games, and even then you are still wrong.
>Normal difficulty
The real difficulty is the one that adds square and triangle.
>>16614300
That was released really recently.
16750c No.16618656
>>16616898
That is Pump It Up
a5e936 No.16619006
>>16604664
>idolmaster
>gay
I mean idolmaster is some of the straightest games out there, but if you gotta go straighter mainline Persona has constant gay-bashing so maybe the Persona dancing games are what you want
77a1cf No.16619028
>>16604756
theres was gal metal on the bing bing wahoo, the school sim shit is kind of gay but the actual rhythm game is fun
31f299 No.16619030
>>16618714
And yet here you are, niggerkike.
Go back.
ff9a90 No.16619056
>>16618714
>being so fat you whine about DDR being autistic on an imageboard
hit the gym faggot
328870 No.16619655
>>16618656
>That is Pump It Up
oh, right, my bad.