49a0f7 No.16565341
I'm unsure how to feel about this, will they fuck up the localization or will it be ok?
Is the cross over items going to be in it?
It's exciting to finally see the nips not hoarding the game anymore but the concern is killing me.
Some major drawbacks that i see is
>maybe exclusive to xbone and wangblows 10
The only thing i see good about this is being able to finally play with english speakers that aren't from reddit.
caee97 No.16565406
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I loved the original and still own the Dreamcast game, but this is a completely different Sega. If it comes to Windows I'll brobbly check it out. I would be worried too.
d1057e No.16565433
I hope they bring over I-III first and do IV+ later. Episode IV character creation really triggered my autism because I'm supposedly this hot shit hero from I-III but I have to live that shit through flashbacks.
ae661c No.16565439
Wasn't this announced before today?
4c00cc No.16565446
f9f5a4 No.16565451
>inb4 that screenshot nigger shows up to have his character tell everyone ">implying you'll ever get to play this" like he usually does in PSO2 threads
045825 No.16565501
>>16565341
Curious to see what (if any) repercussions this will have for the people already playing while breaking ToS.
73e01b No.16565537
>>16565341
Anyone who wants to play is already playing, in English, for the past 7 years. There's about a 0% chance that "all of the content" also includes collaborations, and this only serves to open the game up to (((western criticisms and sensibilities))). Anyone with genuine interest in the game will continue playing on the superior version, only now they'll likely have the same problems that the SEA region did.
What a terrible idea. "A day late and a dollar short" really is the best way to describe this.
e12a2c No.16565551
069f05 No.16565942
>MMORPG
>all gameplay videos I've watched just show a single player going through caves or linear valleys with mountains on either side of the path
So, where's the "massive multiplayer" part? Or just "multiplayer"? Or the "roleplaying video game"? What the hell is this game?
73e01b No.16566131
880cfc No.16566841
No way the western sjw will allow skimpy space lolis, this will be censored to a degree
fae080 No.16566880
I have some concerns.
>Will Sega boot all foreign IPs from the Japanese servers once this launches?
>Can you transfer your account over?
>Is there any chance the translation won't be cancerous?
<No, seriously, how bad is the (((localization))) going to be? Even the fan patch is completely retarded in some places.
At any rate, >>16565537 is right; everyone who wants to play is already playing, and this will only serve to split the English population.
>>16565433
The fixed it with Episode 6: making a new character actually puts you at the start of Episode 1 like it should've from the beginning.
>>16565942
It's like the first PSO: you exist in the lobby with a bunch of people, but every mission is instanced and only has anywhere from 4 to 12 people depending on the quest. It's less an MMO and more of an action RPG with online multiplayer.
f9f5a4 No.16567202
>>16566880
>this will only serve to split the English population
Nigger the English population already literally jumps ships over stupid fucking drama they themselves cause. The only people that will leave for more native waters are the players who are tired of playing solo and people who want a fresh start.
f6aa9d No.16567264
>>16565537
Yeah I truly don't understand why they are doing this, it will probably flop. I just hope they don't boot foreigners from the jap server now.
73e01b No.16567375
>>16567202
> I just hope they don't boot foreigners from the jap server now.
Why wouldn't they? I mean hopefully there will be a workaround, but Microsoft is going to want a return on their investment, and people continuing to play on the Japanese servers won't give them that. That's the same reason that during the entire livespan of the (short-lived) Southeast Asia release, that IP range was banned from the real servers.
5c8fb7 No.16567710
Don't know if I wanna be a robot or a titty monster.
980867 No.16567738
What the fuck? After 10 years? why bother.
f2e2f0 No.16567776
>Kikecrosoft
Lemme guess, it's gonna be Windows 10 exclusive.
635ee9 No.16568014
>>16565341
will they force the non-japanese players to migrate to the outside servers? what about those outfits, you know, those that show lots of skin…will they get censored?
8cf29d No.16568035
RIP PSO2. It was a good run, but now the game will be under the scrutiny of blue haired ambulocetuses that will make sure we never get any good slutwear ever again and whiny soyboys that will bitch any time the JP version gets a collab that won't be coming west due to licensing reasons. Here's a few examples of clothing you aren't going to see in the western version of PSO2. My prediction for the first victim of the culturalization: the tit, ass, and muscle sliders.
ac4d40 No.16568043
>exclusive to xbone and wangblows 10
Dead on arrival.
aa0c6c No.16568073
the only reason I quit playing before was because I didn't know what the fuck was going on and only the ui and like 1/3 of the item descriptions were translated
I'm pretty excited to give it a shot and probably be a fag and give sega my money
bbfae9 No.16568104
>>16566841
How skimpy are the space lolis?
a03257 No.16568135
Don't care, game is literally 7 years old. 7. 7. 7. It took 7 fucking years for them to localize it to the westaboos. Game is garbage. Who would play that. How is the episodic content going to be released, every 2 months, increased EXP, keep the sugar flowing so it won't die.
73e01b No.16568136
>>16568104
Some of the inner layerwear consists of pasties and a c-string.
867c42 No.16568164
>>16568035
only way to stop it is to get all the pso2 weebs to shit on reset era. most of them on twitter. also reset era needs a preemptive doxing strike on it first.
scorched earth is the only way to deal with these kikes.
bbfae9 No.16568193
>>16568136
I have little optimism then.
7c7170 No.16568329
>DirectX9 game
>Windows 10 exclusive
73e01b No.16568370
>>16568329
It'll be pretty freaking hilarious when it's actually Windows 10 exclusive because it's not the real game, but a cloud-based app for parity with the xboner version. And then an IP block on top of that, in an attempt to force you to switch not only to the US release, but to downgrade to Win10.
22097c No.16568458
>>16565341
Anon, I played this game for over five years on and off, and in short, the way to feel about it is: meh. PSO2 is not a very good game, and having an official English localization is not going to make it any better.
fd10bb No.16568708
Here's the worst case scenario.
>western server goes live, with censorship, lacking collabs etc etc
>jap server puts up IP block
That's it, that's all there is to it.
Gaijin that play will just start using VPNs. Free ones, paid ones, Aids custom tailored one, all of them work.
Sega won't start banning accounts. Some japs use gmail, some gaijin use jap mail. I myself use jap mail. How sega will even know I'm gaijin? Read my chat logs? Nah not gonna happen, too much work for lazy fucks that didn't even bother to animate hands on characters.
SEA monkeys already play like that, sega never bothered to remove SEA block after shutting down their server.
>>16568458
Well I've been playing for over 6 years and I think you're cunt.
f58801 No.16568735
Picked this from a post on pso-world forums with no other sources so could be fake
>Phil Spencer:
>Oh do I have comments about this, but we'll put it aside. Still, thanks Phil. I see a lot of people commenting about how it's 7-8 years out from the JP release, but take this with some perspective. It's a game that came out as fairly high end for its circumstances and has seen improvements content-wise and otherwise since. It's still a unique title and even more so for XB1. There were absolutely other games in that presentation that are yet to be released and still don't meet the visual fidelity and overall quality that this game will have when it comes out here.
>And it's free to play with a unique combination of themes. It fills a certain gap for Xbox with a known series that still has hype for its release. I bet Microsoft even considered making their own game to try and fill this gap to entice certain kinds of gamers. But take into consideration many of the games of this type coming out now and they still don't have this level of work put into them. I bet they could have put PSO v1 up on screen and people still would have applauded and been excited to play a game they already put 1000s of hours into two decades ago.
>People are absolutely going to check this game out when it releases. And it's great that many of you have put so much into the JP release, but it doesn't really downplay the importance of the franchise being revived here even with a game that you already have two legs up on. If nothing else, this is an important milestone preceding whatever the next step in the franchise is.
>I understand the game has highs and lows and will probably have conversion quirks on its way here (as well as PSU 360 demo players), but any of you dedicated enough to play on the JP servers should try to maintain a good attitude as it finally gets a local release because ideally the game will be a success outside of Japan and your versions will benefit from it too.
fd10bb No.16568776
>>16568735
> conversion quirks
There it fucking is. Censorship.
I don't fucking care, as long as they don't touch my jp server. But IP block up, what fucking ever, game is client-based, lag doesn't mean much, especially in solo content, which is 90% of this game.
Normalfags and zoomers can have their butchered PSO2 experience.
5482e5 No.16568807
>>16568708
They're obviously doing this release as a setup for a sequel down the line. That's why the worst case scenario is a global release of whatever is to come, with Western sensitivities being used as guidelines in the design.
I'm not too concerned about them forcing us out of Jap servers. The English version will be censored to hell and back, but that's going to happen regardless of the circumstances.
Also, minimal breast/height values to prevent chars from looking below 18.
f58801 No.16568810
>>16568735
>>16568776
nevermind this post, I didn't bothered to check the posts properly, it was just some user posting his remarks on Phil`s comment about how PSO influenced other games but still fuck that guy.
>>16568708
Think about it though, if the NA servers somehow end up making more profits than their local ones, they might be inclined to cater to them and their shit taste instead but so far sega has been pretty cool about the lewd stuff and hopefully it'll remain that way. Still hearing about Sega and atlus looking for a studio for localization help is kind of worrisome
fd10bb No.16568861
>>16568810
>if the NA servers somehow end up making more profits than their local ones, they might be inclined to cater to them and their shit taste instead
>>16568807
>a global release of whatever is to come, with Western sensitivities being used as guidelines in the design
Because it werked for Dead or Alive? Oh wait, it didn't.
No, NA version won't be more profitable than jap one. I bet it won't even be able to maintain itself for long enough to be shut down simultaneously with jap version in 2022.
It's SEA blunder 2.0.
5482e5 No.16568955
>>16568861
>Because it werked for Dead or Alive? Oh wait, it didn't
You assume decisions in this industry are based on logic when it comes to this shit. Japan cannot stop itself from opening itself and its cultural quirks up to the rest of the world, and it with how collectivist their society is at large they'll eventually buckle under the constant pressure from the West. It's already been happening for at least 3 decades, if not longer. The Olympics next year will act as a big wedge for outside influences to examine Japanese norms based on their standards and write ten thousand articles about it.
93e581 No.16568975
It’s a special kind of shit when we can’t even be excited for a good game getting localized because localizers are so fucking shitty and if anything it’ll just make the uncensored version harder to play. What a horrible E3
fae080 No.16569027
>>16568861
The more I think about it, the more I feel like the English servers will be empty in a few months after release. The normalfags will hate it for being too Japanese (especially with the voices; the only saving grace I see is that there's way too much dialogue to feasibly dub everything), the weebs will hate it due to censorship and shoddy translation (still expecting a pic related situation - can't wait for Patty and Taylor to tell me about the Three Heroes, Regis, Chris, and Claire), everyone else will stop playing or migrate to the JP servers once the population dries up, and Sega will slowly forget the English version exists. That's probably the best-case scenario, anyway; otherwise, Sega will start capitulating to the journos and start censoring/removing stuff, the Japs will riot, and Sega either abandons the Phantasy Star series in the west (again) or sits there and watches it die for good.
Good job, E3. Even with my jaded, hopeless outlook, you still managed to find a way to kick me in the balls.
635ee9 No.16569095
>>16568035
so, i hve to say goodbye to the girls…
it breaks my bal…i mean heart
bae874 No.16569167
>>16569027
The worst thing that could happen to current English players is the need to use a VPN to connect, that's it. The game is still making cash over in Japan so Sega won't kill it chasing US dollars, especially after they got burned hard with English PSU/PSP. Separate servers will contain the Microsoft cancer and let it die a mercifully quick death.
bcd58a No.16569178
>>16568035
even shitty korean mmo like black desert kept the options to increase tits/ass/mucles
d30ef1 No.16569199
Does anyone know if sega censored anything in their Yakuza games when publishing them in the west?
That would be a precedent to worry/not worry about censorship.
194a9d No.16569252
>>16569199
>Does anyone know if sega censored anything in their Yakuza games when publishing them in the west?
3 got censored, none of the other games did.
8cf29d No.16569260
>>16568708
No, that's nowhere near the worst case scenario. The worst case is that JP PSO2 starts being censored with the excuse that they don't want certain regions to have more content (read: they don't want Japan to have an uncensored version that the western players can point to and say "Why the fuck aren't we getting that?"). Hopefully, the fact that this isn't on the PS4 in the west will prevent anything too terrible, but the recent trend of western censorship being applied to the JP versions of games through patches is still a very real possibility here. Bottom line is that being localized is probably the worst thing that could ever have happened to PSO2.
d30ef1 No.16569266
>>16569252
What exactly was censored? Gore? Alcohol? Or sexy women?
It's important, because PSO2 is full of sex, but otherwise is a 12+ game.
>>16569260
Wouldn't jap whales, that spent their jap dollars on sexy outfits outrage over their [digital] product that they paid for being altered retroactively?
194a9d No.16569277
>>16569266
>What exactly was censored
IIRC, Jap trivia and some brothels, so sexy women.
d30ef1 No.16569289
>>16569277
Well shit.
Let's hope they won't touch jap server and just launch western one like they did with asian.
635ee9 No.16569290
>>16569266
>Wouldn't jap whales, that spent their jap dollars on sexy outfits outrage over their [digital] product that they paid for being altered retroactively?
most likely, but in the age of moral outrage, sacrifices must be made. Getting broke IS A GOOD THING, pleasing your costumers IS A BAD THING
d30ef1 No.16569313
>>16569290
I want this industry to crash as burn as much as the next anon, until it's the game I like.
Pls no burn PSO2.
144475 No.16569367
>>16569266
A japanese trivia game, and the hostess club content. Sega said this was for budgetary reasons (It was unknown if there was a market for a non-dubed yakuza game in the west) and their treatment of yakuza 4 and 5 supports this claim.
d30ef1 No.16569369
d30ef1 No.16569387
>>16569367
Removed tranny chase is still censorship.
I imagine all of the trap clothes in PSO2 being made female only, which would also be censorship.
sage for double post
bbfae9 No.16569390
>>16569367
>>16569289
>>16569277
Also the hostess club wasn't censored, the causes for those changes were due to licensing issues and >>16569367
f9f5a4 No.16569398
>>16569387
>making women's clothing be women-only is censorship
144475 No.16569401
>>16569387
I was talking about the ps3 versions where the tranny chase was still included. I didn't know about the ps4 versions. RIP yakuza
1d2c63 No.16569442
>>16569387
We will kill you. Post your address so we can do it more quickly.
a03257 No.16569556
>>16568735
Damned right people would, or should, applaud pso 1 on screen if it was. Should have sticked to the old original system from pso1. I'll become an old whiney rambling geezer at this rate.
In pso1 you carry a set of weapons to use their specific specials just like any rational man would. Aoe stun, aoe zalure jellen, berserk single or multi hit. Ah this works in this situation! These weapons are useful for 2/3 of the playerbase and 1/3 of the playerbase! I can trade these items effectively and barter for something else! Likewise armor and units which can drastically increase you effecticeness easily 50%.
pso2: cosmetics cosmetics, hunt solo wait for monthly EQ .1% 12 star drop. Oh look 11 star drop twin gun only 1/12 of the playerbase can use, but I can't trade it to anyone and I have to put it on the auction house and get meseta instead. You are hunting for what? The drops are client side so I have no clue what different things you are getting. What? There's no shield slot? Well what armor do we even hunt for, do uniques give % increase to anything? No? You can upgrade any armor to have +120 ranged attack? Whats the point of finding good armor? Ah right this game scrapped everything from pso1, its psu basically thanks for that sega.
23694b No.16569613
>>16565341
>maybe
>(((microsoft)))
>MAYBE
MAYBE
76f06f No.16569671
>>16569027
All they needed to do was to re-release PSO Blue Burst port for the Nintendo Switch with some new rares and some tweaks, offline multiplayer (ad-hoc and splitscreen) and call it the 20th Anniversary Edition.
73e01b No.16569754
I N T E G R A T E D
E P I S O D E I I I
de5fd1 No.16569778
Did they ever manage to dump that Game Guard rootkit they started using since PSU?
I just want Blue Burst to work reliably in Wine already.
16bcca No.16569830
>>16565341
I want to have hopes but I can only see Micropenises cocking this up. Shitty SJW "localization", removal of skimpy clothing, no sliders for tits, ass, thighs, etc.
f77fd4 No.16570234
>>16569556
PSO2 has fun action gameplay.
PSO1 has boring whack-a-mole gameplay, that is somehow clunkier than Ragnarok Online.
36625a No.16570299
>yfw PSO2 becomes successful then Square changes its mind and releases DQX on the West
8c195d No.16570315
I don't understand why it wouldn't be localized for PS4.
8cf29d No.16570332
>>16570315
Pic related is why.
0abe7e No.16570545
>Coming to the west.
>Murica only.
Being from yurop is suffering and fuck sega.
16bc47 No.16570575
>>16570545
Don't worry, the sexual outfits and breast/size sliders will be taken out.
29ca4c No.16570585
>>16570545
Nigger just play the JP version, it's mostly translated and everything.
0abe7e No.16570631
>>16570585
I wanted an excuses to still own the no game box other than it's to play with my brothers.
cbf0db No.16570754
>Enjoy the JP version
>Friend is on Xbone until he can afford PC
>Know he will buy this game despite censorship
>mfw can't play with him because refuse to run Win10 and my PC has the last Intel CPU without proper hardware passthru
Being a /tech/fag is suffering.
29ca4c No.16570820
>>16570754
If it's any consolation the game is F2P so if he is smart he won't buy anything. He would not have an xbone if he were smart though.
4bb79d No.16570856
>>16569442
>>16569398
>hating on anime traps
6e4c1b No.16571081
>>16570856
You're just a homo trying to disguise himself with anime and memes. Admit it and stop the game of pretend.
cbf0db No.16571291
>>16570856
>memecenter.com
16bc47 No.16573075
I just thought of a bigger dilemma. What if Microsoft adds a energy meter that prevents players from playing as long as they want similar to mobile games? Their excuse is to combat gaming addiction. However we all know it's to spend money to keep playing skinnerbox model.
3923c4 No.16573967
>>16573075
Except microshit doesn't have to do anything with it other than making sure it works on their xbone and cloud.
9d98a4 No.16574073
>>16570856
fuck off fag, go push your agenda somewhere else. 4chan is more gay and more popular for your attention whoring needs
16bc47 No.16574256
>>16573967
So this game will only be streamed via cloud on PC then?
ad2ce9 No.16574904
Which one should I start with? I heard this series or game was good? It was action RPG like MonHun or something right?
867c42 No.16575087
>>16570856
people like you always fag enable reset era, fuck off. learn japanese and tell the japanese twitter account for sega that all of these fucks are neurotic chrischantoids
80ff72 No.16575121
I still wish Phantasy Star went back to it's Genesis routes to be an fullfledge RPG instead of going MMO after Online. I think I'll be dead before I see that ever happen.
16bcca No.16575130
>>16573075
Given the rumors of having to be on windows 10 to play it and the very real possibilities of shitty localization and censorship I'd say the more they fuck it up the better. I'd rather go through the pain in the ass of playing the nip version then playing a version with the dialog riddled with stale memes and the women all in covered in mudslime towels to keep from offending people who are always offended.
867c42 No.16575150
>>16575130
normalfags on pso2 are saying death to reset era and trannies on the shitpost block. on ship 2
8cf29d No.16575311
>>16575150
Each and every one of those people will be on the western PSO2 server. They're acting the internet tough guy now, but when the US server goes online, they'll fuck off to it while muttering about "muh language barrier" and "muh English speaking community."
16bcca No.16575322
>>16575150
>normalfags on pso2
I honestly can't imagine actual normalfags going through the trouble of playing PSO2. But good for them. Too bad vidya companies rarely listen to their customers these days.
1b1c4e No.16575706
>>16570754
Even with the ACS patch you cant passthrough your hardware?
020e80 No.16576405
>>16570545
>Being from yurop is suffering and fuck sega.
It has gacha, which is banned in Europe now.
4a52c7 No.16578126
>>16566880
>Will Sega boot all foreign IPs from the Japanese servers once this launches?
Probably.
>Can you transfer your account over?
Doubt it, despite a potential to make some cash if they charged rather than nuke them.
>Is there any chance the translation won't be cancerous?
Do you need to ask? I am angry that it probably will be gated to wangblows 10.
9fab0c No.16578283
>>16565942
>What the hell is this game?
A dress-up game set in space.
You make an anime girl and buy different outfits and accessories for her to make her as pretty as possible.
Alternatively, you make a robot and turn yourself into a gundam or something.
>>16568104
Very.
>>16566880
>Will Sega boot all foreign IPs from the Japanese servers once this launches?
I don't see why they'd do it.
If they didn't bother to block anyone from the west playing so far why start now?
>Is there any chance the translation won't be cancerous?
Do you even need to ask?
a03257 No.16578285
>>16570234
Even if its whack a mole, the gameplay is based around weapon swapping and calculated choices. In pso2 you just use one wep for mass spam aoe dps and another weapon for single target dps, barely any strategy involved. The gameplay is too different from each other. Skills and cooldown, very un-pso like at all. Variety is gone. Its only whack a mole because of ranged attacks locking motion. You can have pao1 combat with pso2 aiming qnd movement, game would be 100 times more fun.
255dd0 No.16578322
>>16570856
>traps
>being a homosexual
867c42 No.16578324
>>16578285
have you even played the game recently?
with the new mirage weapons you can actually play the game with pso's versatility. since they have T attack on them. sub phantom and try it out.
a03257 No.16578332
>>16574904
pso2 has nothing in common with pso1. Go play on a private server in pso blue burst if you want to experience the original feeling. You habe Ephinea and Ultima servers to choose from. Have fun learning everythong from scratch.
79829e No.16578405
>>16578283
>I don't see why they'd do it.
>If they didn't bother to block anyone from the west playing so far why start now?
But they absolutely did. There was a very intentional, specific block of IP ranges in another region when the game was released there, to prevent the main (good) server from competing with that region's.
29ca4c No.16578421
>>16578283
The only way reason they are likely to block the west is if microshit pays them to like the seaniggers did when their version came out. Sega has never really cared to block the west in order PS games.
497ac0 No.16578445
>>16578324
Too bad theres no Dom body for Cast
29ca4c No.16578487
>>16578405
Because the seaniggers running the sea server paid money for sega to do so. China was also blocked because they were doing a fuck ton of RMT and hacking.
>>16578445
I could have sworn you could make something like that actually. You can even make it so you jet across the ground like doms do.
79829e No.16578519
>>16578487
>Because the seaniggers running the sea server paid money for sega to do so.
And Microsoft won't?
"Hey, let's release the game in the west while doing absolutely nothing about the fact that anyone who cares about the game is playing elsewhere and has absolutely zero interest in playing on our shitty version, fuck making money!"
bbfae9 No.16578535
>>16578283
Is that outfit mostly body paint?
29ca4c No.16578552
>>16578519
>And Microsoft won't?
Who knows? Microshit probably does not want to spend any more money than they have to. In any case it's easy to just use a vpn or proxy to play the JP version if you have to. Hell, the tweaker has a free one built in for those that don't want to pay anything.
867c42 No.16578567
>>16578445
you could use the chest armor that jasper has in the cafe to make a rick dom body. then mix and match some gouroi parts
9fab0c No.16578568
>>16578519
M$ is already on thin ice and have been treading carefully lately.
They won't do it just to get a few thousand players and give up what little good will they managed to accumulate over the years.
PSO2 will be a "fresh new thing" for the people who couldn't get past the captcha boss and there's enough of those.
79829e No.16578581
>>16578568
>They won't do it just to get a few thousand players and give up what little good will they managed to accumulate over the years.
You people believe some crazy shit sometimes. You're up there with the ones who think it won't be heavily censored too.
867c42 No.16578586
>>16578519
there is one thing thats different this time.
Public relations disasters, and final fantasy 14 an mmo that has all of its servers in one place. social media.
shitstorms are picked up by news sites nowadays and if people are smart they can strong arm microsoft/sega and call people complaining about the games apperance, as a chris chan blue checkmark freak.
8cf29d No.16578613
>>16578421
>MS pays Sega to region block the US
>hackers from the US DDoS the JP server like the seamonkeys did when their server went up
>Sega can't do shit because they have a contract with MS
>US version dead within a year or two due to all the seamonkey shit like never updating game (when JP server was getting Episode 5, seamonkeys were getting content from halfway through Episode 3, and that was the last update they ever got), adding pay to win gear in the cash shop, ect.
>JP server keeps going, but the region block is never removed due to fear of US hackers
>PSU2/PSO3 comes out
>has region ban from day one due to all the shit Sega had to put up with during PSO2
While I don't think MS would be that mind bogglingly retarded, I retract my previous statement. Getting localized isn't just the worst thing that could happen to PSO2. It's also the worst thing that could happen for the future of the Phantasy Star series as a whole.
>>16578535
PSO2 lets you walk around with just some bandages on your crotch and tits so long as you're wearing an "outer" layer. This outer layer is usually a jacket or something, but there's enough exceptions that barely cover anything that there's no end of nearly naked, space elf lolis running around the arks fleet.
79829e No.16578628
>>16578586
Nah, they'll censor it and you and the other people too stupid to look at a chart of hiragana will eat it up.
9fab0c No.16578649
>>16578581
If you were to take a look at M$ and their actions lately, you can tell that they don't want to piss people off any more than they already have.
Which means doing the bare minimum of not utterly fucking up.
The western version will no doubt be censored and have a "lolsorandumb" translation at best, and be leftist propaganda at worst because no one who plays it will care.
Meanwhile everyone else gets to enjoy the JP version and MS avoids getting flak for shitting a game up by not doing anything to prevent people from playing the better version.
867c42 No.16578739
>>16578628
nigger im playing on the jap version. i got over the captcha, you just dont know how autistic sonicfags are
255dd0 No.16578916
>>16578739
This
IIRC the captcha used to be katakana and then Sega dumbed it down, and even then all the captcha is essentially is a timed "matche the symbols" game which could be done if you use lexilogos keyboard to do it.
7bc8f4 No.16578950
16bc47 No.16579034
>>16575130
So what if Microsoft adds time based autobans like if you play more tgan 2 hours per day every day? Or do what pre aRR FFXIV did and put XP caps on users until they change jobs, cap out XP gain, then be forced to quit for a week to refresh?
c4eb1a No.16579044
For a change im actually worried
It could have advantages:
>Game finally translated properly
>Servers mixed? no loss for anyone
>Proper paying methods
>Less lag for arena
or it will crash the game….
<SEGA gets (((woke)))
<(((Censorship)))
<(((Localization))), and also bad voice actors
<The project fails so bad it affects the Jp servers
<They set their servers on some stupid state and get (((sued)))
<Possible ip ban in Jp
<No shared server so if you want to access you have to restart
-B07 all the blocks!don't know hot to feel about that
What will you do anons? will you stay?if you can or restart if necessary?
I will stay, to many hours and a bit of actual cash invested in my account
9ce6d0 No.16579078
>>16565341
took them a billion years
867c42 No.16579106
>>16579044
episode 5 is when they started to pander towards an english release, they moved away from japshit. went back to older IP throwbacks, fixed up the classes. then got rid of the jap engrish music and went with the nier approach with episode 5's fantasy music. episode six's music is completely english. So im surprised i did not catch on it sooner.
also the episode 1 to 3 anime was meant for americans, not so much japanese. japans numbers have gone down and the people willing to shell out money are mostly weebs.
946c0f No.16579129
how are the lolis in this game?
16bc47 No.16579190
>>16579129
They will be non-existent in the western release.
867c42 No.16579234
>>16579129
depends if sega is smart they can just put up an optional censored mode where all of the player models turn into grey mottled placeholder characters. and keep the game as it is. anyone trying to pull up shit will be told to activate censored mode which is just a setting to reduce performance costs.
4a52c7 No.16579248
>>16579044
If they allow transfer and windows 7 maybe, otherwise fuck no, pso2 is more of a slog than psobb which I'd rather play.
8d2319 No.16581969
>>16578285
>In pso2 you just use one wep for mass spam aoe dps and another weapon for single target dps, barely any strategy involved.
So you're either Ranger, Fighter or you barely played the game and even those classes have exceptions.
>>16578613
>MS
I only see sega on announcement trailer, and azure, but azure is a platform, not a publisher.
>>16578568
>PSO2 will be a "fresh new thing" for the people who couldn't get past the captcha boss and there's enough of those.
It'll be a fresh new thing for way more people than that - most casuals play what's (((hyped))) or what (((journalists/streamers))) tell them which never includes unlocalized niche games.
5f5d57 No.16582179
>>16569387
>Felix's outfit is currently in the Jap version
>Male and Female versions currently exist
24717a No.16589591
>greatest melee combat in online games
>greatest character creator in video games period
>sexy as fuck
>decent story for the space part of the game
>shit but better than most story for the isekai part of the game
>decent monetization for AAA-run online game
>huge amount of content, at least twice than competitors (DDO/monhun/warframe/destiny)
>doesn't actively keep gaijins away (yet), unlike DDO or MSGO
>fuckers hating on it just because jap captcha is too hard for them
This shitty world doesn't deserve PSO2, let alone western trash site of the planet.
8d2319 No.16589632
>>16589591
>decent monetization for AAA-run online game
No, it's fucking great monetization, the only one game with similar shit is Warframe - both have p2p-f2p player economy established where both parties benefit each other unlike freemium shit where f2p players are peasants without rights. It's one of the major reasons why this lobby MMO is good and why most others are complete shit in a beautiful wrapping.
Usually when games are localized they get another f2p model with Japan usually having the most player-loyal one but with sega publishing it there's actually a chance NA might get JP PSO2 model too. This is one thing that I actually want from NA - if it gets successful with that p2p-f2p economy we might get publishers grabbing their retarded efficient managers by the balls and forcing them to copy non-freemium model.
24717a No.16589923
>>16589632
Except PSO2 has real money lootboxes that you can sell for meseta and upgrade your shit.
It's literally p2w. Not an intrusive one, and it's a pve game so whatever, but technically it is.
Not to mention said lootboxes contain special affixers that give you large bonuses.
Not to mention that default 50 slots bag is laughable if you want to keep at least 3 weapons and a few rings for all possible situations, like anga's resists or different bosses in uh missions.
>>16589754
If you're honestly thinking that PS4 won't get western version of a game, it already has, you're delusional.
9e7191 No.16590015
>>16589632
>decent monitization
>warframe
Just grind shit all day to get real money from paypigs so you don't have to do the absurd frame grind!
0995e3 No.16590069
>>16589923
While technically it is, the expensive affixes aren't that much better than simply good ones and skill has way more impact in this game than top affixes. This is actually similar to Warframe where you can get frames and some weapon parts with platina as well as best rivens while being PvE focused and with skill playing a major role too. Prem drinks is what actually is p2w in pso2 btw, though not substantial. 50slot sucks yes, but at least you can move shit to storage from anywhere and you get generous amount of storage space.
Important part is that I have access to almost all the stuff in the game, without limits or retarded levels of grinding. Also want to note that some f2p games like to move cosmetics behind paywall because it's "not important" but considering that MMOs are social games for unsocial faggets not important part is dubious.
>>16590015
That's freemium shit games you described, if you can't get platinum in Warframe then you just suck. From basic playing the market and selling excess rivens to get basic shit to simply enjoying the game and slacking because event-only/time limited etc shit prices go up substantially over time - you can literally not play the game to get fucking rich.
24717a No.16590083
>>16590069
> but at least you can move shit to storage from anywhere and you get generous amount of storage space
I still remember when that wasn't a thing. Yeah game became much better over the years.
9e7191 No.16590089
>>16590069
except someone has to buy that plat to start with dipshit
0995e3 No.16590127
>>16590089
Fuck off communist, somebody has to be paid to make games for you to play. Some people have money they don't mind spending, other have time and/or ability to get in-game shit, both provide benefit each other.
9e7191 No.16590133
>>16590127
Except it's not a good freemium model at all if your entire playtime is spent farming in one way or the other for cash shop currency dumbass
247f9c No.16590142
>>16589591
>doesn't actively keep gaijins away (yet)
I could've sworn they used to, but then took down the foreign ip block quite a long time ago.
0995e3 No.16590156
>>16590133
>entire playtime is spent farming
Most of my playtime is actually spent slacking, don't judge others by your dumb self.
9e7191 No.16590167
>>16590156
>lol I just sit on trade chat all day to get plat
>It's freemium
>who cares that 99% of my playtime revolves around getting cash shop currency
0995e3 No.16590254
>>16590142
Was a thing years ago during mass hacks or smth, now it's kinda chill, their support sometimes help with shit even though they don't have to, keyword is sometimes. With SEA release when it was different publisher it was SEA ipblock which is still in effect but there were no seamonkey hunts.
>>16590167
Whatever you say.
6f4e89 No.16590295
You really don't need a localization to play PSO2, you need like rudimentary Japanese knowledge.
8c46ee No.16590317
I just want a PSO3 already. PSO2 is getting pretty fucking dated, and I want something that feels completely fresh.
53ee75 No.16590385
b92e64 No.16592376
>>16590301
Jokes on you I don't have PS4
>>16590317
Just like play another class.
>>16590385
tl;dr?
8cf29d No.16592410
>>16592376
What it sounds like is that this guy was a huge fucking douche who made himself a bad name in the community, did something to get himself banned (probably a hacker since they're the only ones who ree so loudly when they get banned from games), and is crying that Sega won't unban his account. What baffles me is how >>16590385 thinks a hacker getting banned has anything to do with Sega taking active measures to block foreigners from connecting to the JP PSO2 server.
16bc47 No.16594054
>>16590385
>SEGA is Japanese nationalist.
SEGA is literally Hitler and the nazis
for not becoming globalist culturally riched utopias. He asked for the ban.
f306d8 No.16594272
>>16589591
This [Loser] is right
>>16590317
It could use a little upgrade in the character models, then again is not much of a difference with FFXIV
Except the lack of open world, but no need for rebooting, it can be worked with the current game
The game is exiting, balanced, fair and looks good, what else do you need?
29ca4c No.16594293
>>16594272
>what else do you need?
Weapons worth actually hunting. A huge part of what made the original PSO good was gear that was not just a new skin with bigger numbers. Also actual maps, not this stitched together random grid system they have in 2.
f306d8 No.16594419
>>16594293
>gear that was not just a new skin with bigger numbers
Isn't all armors and weapons in all games… that?
What made them different? (Haven t played PSO)
Maybe the thing that affects this too, is that the Sclass skills can be transferred but i would say is an advantage more than a disadvantage
>actual maps, not this stitched together random grid system
They feel like diablo rooms, but since every time you enter a map it is different you wont end moving and killing enemies in the same order
It would be a nice feeling of having an open space to explore, but you'll have the usual problem (spending a long time of the game just moving to places)
In short it has disadvantages but also advantages, the current system
29ca4c No.16594507
>>16594419
>What made them different?
In PSO rare weapons usually had cool and useful features beyond "does more damage". Features like shooting shockwaves, amping specific techs, inflicting powerful status aliments(which were actually useful in PSO), having unique attack patterns, or being able to be equipped by a class that could not normally use that weapon type(which was far bigger a deal in PSO than it is in PSO2) are just a few examples. New weapons were often less replacements than they were additions to your arsenal. As a result you tended to carry around a bunch of different weapons and swapped between them as needed. Potentials and SSAs had the potential to be something similar but ultimately the only thing that matters about your weapon in PSO2 is how much damage it does.
>They feel like diablo rooms, but since every time you enter a map it is different you wont end moving and killing enemies in the same order
The original PSO had randomly selected handcrafted layouts for non-quest maps. Yes they were finite but they were infinitely more interesting than the souless PSO2 ones. As far as quest maps go PSO2's TA and story quests are basically watered down versions of PSO's quests.
f306d8 No.16594856
>>16594507
>weapons
You reveal a actual change in mood from game 1 to 2
Enemies were more of a threat, you needed to make strategies to move around
The feeling changed to more dynasty warriors like, where you have a ton of enemies to smash, but in the end they are but grass
Here we can have status aliments, but is more convenient to just add the respective atk for the weapon
>watered down versions of PSO's quests.
They sound really nice, maybe if SEGA made the arks missions like that it would conserve the variety of the world in free and the quality in arks
<Improvements
If this was in a japanese this would have an actual chance to be listened to
b92e64 No.16595949
>>16594507
>Features like shooting shockwaves, amping specific techs, inflicting powerful status aliments(which were actually useful in PSO), having unique attack patterns, or being able to be equipped by a class that could not normally use that weapon type(which was far bigger a deal in PSO than it is in PSO2) are just a few examples
PSO2 does all that. It's called "potential". For every "just does more damage" weapon there is "has unique feature" weapon.
>they were finite but they were infinitely more interesting than the souless PSO2 ones
>As far as quest maps go PSO2's TA and story quests are basically watered down versions of PSO's quests
They are exactly the same except having verticality because PSO2 has aerial combat.
Sounds like you didn't even fucking play PSO2 past few hours.
29ca4c No.16596142
>>16595949
>PSO2 does all that. It's called "potential". For every "just does more damage" weapon there is "has unique feature" weapon.
And they are almost universally shit. Even the good ones boil down to "does more damage". There were a handful of exceptions, for example various bows with TATK for banish arrow casting, Elysion for making normal techs a viable option, or Lavis/Form wand. However, most good weapons in PSO2 had nothing more than straight statistical boosts. As a result you don't expand your gear, you replace it.
>They are exactly the same except having verticality because PSO2 has aerial combat.
Not really, if only because PSO2 has almost no hand designed maps. The early TA maps, some story quests, and abductions are good but most of the game is running around in a circle on the farming mobs or running EQs. Challenge quests were good too but don't have worthwhile rewards anymore(which is another huge problem with PSO2, they leave content to languish). It's a totally different gameplay loop.
>Sounds like you didn't even fucking play PSO2 past few hours.
Nigger I played the game religiously from launch up until ep4 hit and did not drop it entirely until halfway though ep5. The game has lots of things it does(or used to) do right but map design and loot are not ones of them.
255dd0 No.16596146
>>16594507
I miss the weapons from mobile suit gundam in PSO
Fun shit having a zaku machine gun
a03257 No.16596221
>>16594507
Most of these people will never understand how good pso1 actually was until they've experienced it for themselves. It felt so good to build up your repertoire of quick swap weapons. You kept working towards that, mastering more and more enemy combat tactics until there were zero instances where you were put on your backfoot. All 3 classes relied on multiple weps, armor, and units.
Already said pso2 never came close to this. One rare weapon could make Deband and Shifta range 2x for FO's? Insane. 2x jellen zalure range, literally whole rooms would get hit. All of a sudden SUPPORT FO class just made RA and HU do 2-4x damage.
Soloing? Rare dagger for HU shifta deband lvl 3 special applied to self. Congrats that's easily +30-50 dmg per hit for all weps and situations. Also the insta freeze trap handgun trick makes CASTs easy to solo.
There's so many tricks and gear to make group play so fluid. No one can relate until they have done it. I can call you a brother from reading your insight, also nice racassy.
b92e64 No.16596229
>>16596142
>PSO2 does exactly what PSO1 did but better
>except it's shit because ???
Why don't you duckling go make PSO1 thread and circlejerk about your sacred cow in there?
b84d94 No.16596239
I think just looking at a post like >>16596221 versus a post like >>16596229 says everything that needs to be said about PSO and PSO2.
16bc47 No.16596252
I wouldn't mind a new single player turn-based Phantasy Star RPG. I know we got IDOLA on mobile, but I think that one is gacha isn't it?
a03257 No.16596260
I'm not joking when I say weapon variability for HU's. Endgame I have at minimum 12 weapons I carry ready to quick swap.
>Enemy spawn
> # of enemy? Spread out or clustered? Far or close?
>Go for quick kill or pull mobs to stun and aoe.?
>Do I have others playing which fill a role that I can use to make enemies die faster, which changes my tactic?
A weapon to freeze, to paralyze, to confuse (some can't be or are hard to paralyze), all aoe weps and another set for single target long range high accuracy. Charge and berzerk weapons for maxing damage depending on urgency you choose which type. Special weps providing status shifta, a gifoie attack which stuns 100% of foes (useful for charging enemies) and sets off traps, even a Zalure handgun that takes 10 hours of challenge mode to obtain which makes solo so much easier or if you have a terrible FO support.
The possibilities are endless and only your creativity and motivation hinders your choices. How can pso2 even compare? 90% of pso2's life the goal was only to get a weapon that does more numbers. There were no para freeze confuse tactics. I haven't even talked about UNITS yet and the variety which enhanced your char's stats greatly.
8cf29d No.16596263
>>16596252
Yeah, it's gachashit. Dark Gene is probably the only good thing that'll ever come out of it.
a03257 No.16596282
Not to mention GIRASOLE, the one weapon that drains your hp when using the special attack without hitting enemies. Even this was a useful weapon for those who had Dark Flow to use its low hp special which decimates the whole room. Nothing feels better than using specialized tools for specific situations.
b92e64 No.16596291
>>16596142
>>16596260
>>16596221
>smack mob
>dodge attacks by walking
>smack mob
>change weapon
>smack two fat mobs
>walk some more
>Yea so fun!
<meanwhile in PSO2
>U DONT UNDERSTAND
a03257 No.16596300
I counted 13 HU weapons off the top of my head that endgame HU uses. 13. I said 12 in the previous post. Let that sink in.
Depending on the zone you would swap units and barriers. Megid enemy quest, use anti dark ring, everything else swap red ring for +20 ATA. Low level falz? holy units to not get one hit. God/battle for ~20% weapon speed increase. god/pow when not maxing power from base stats, god/arm when missing with specials and not maxing base ATA yet. god/tech to use lvl 30 techs, and you can trade any of these for one you want, not need for grand exchange.
b92e64 No.16596308
>>16596300
You forgot to mention that regardless of the weapon all you do is
>walk around
>smack
>walk around
>smack x2
>walks some more
a03257 No.16596320
>>16596291
>"PSO" "2"
>skill bar hotkeys
>replenishing CP bar for use of skills
>using one weapon
>numbers on screen
>numbers
>using at most 5 skills on repeat while looking "skilled while in air"
>aka stylish combat
Yes this is a good representation of pso. Clearly this is what I enjoy. Where's the cunning use of exploiting the boss's weakness? Its phases, dodging its attack sequence? Attacking 99% of the time is not strategy.
a03257 No.16596342
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
To anyone following, what looks more fun or even more skillful, that pso2 video or this?
29ca4c No.16596343
>>16596291
You are a retarded nigger who does not understand what the discussion is about. PSO2's gearing is ass and an aspect PSO did much better.
b92e64 No.16596364
>>16596320
Numbers can't be a bit distracting but you can disable them.
There is plenty of dodging and parrying and positioning between constant attacking, in that boss fight especially.
>>16596342
>walk
>walk
>smack
>smack
>menus menus menus menus
>repeat
>>16596343
>it's exactly the same
>but it's bad because ???
6f4e89 No.16596371
>>16579044
I think sega is intelligent enough sometimes to realize localization is both a waste and unncessary, see Yakuza series. I can only hope they're that intelligent this time.
6f4e89 No.16596373
>>16596371
replace localization with voice acting, i'm retarded.
a03257 No.16596405
>>16596364
You wouldn't be able to walk and smack like he does. It takes tons of practice to be able to solo those mobs with such efficiency. You have no argument to bring forth to the conversation. One game playstyle requires a higher cognitive function and pattern recognition than the other.
12f77f No.16596410
Oddly, I might pick up the translated PC version and drop it after a few hours. I beat the captcha boss with some help a long time ago but the game didn't manage to keep me hooked then. It didn't feel like fighting styles mattered but I didn't play very long and I don't like seeing moonrunes.
8d2319 No.16597620
>>16596260
I haven't played PSO/PSU but hueg amount of OP-levels of gamechanging weapons is something I'd like to avoid. I already have my palette slots filled with different weapons and PAs to deal with different situations. BrRa had this shit with gamechanging too, Divine Raikou bow if you want to bbow because without buff it "buffs" BrRa can't do shit, then orbit good for any class bbow for passive regen and The BBow with reduced PP consumption because class is a ravenous PP whore. What do I get? Gear fucking requirement to have fun on already unpopular class. 2-4x damage? We had that before WB nerf, simply having Ra in MPA was 2-4x damage, no Ra, no damage, imagine the fun and 2-4x more time spent on shit because of such an amazing design. Must be nice for ye olde players who grinded their shit to be that powerful but instead of grinding shit I'd rather slack and have fun with having customizable weapons and fuckton of moves to enjoy DMC levels of action gameplay.
>>16596342
Remove nostalgia glasses and you'll see it's just a slow-ass robogirl switching weapons and killing stuff with same-looking attacks. Looks neither fun nor skillful.
16bc47 No.16597817
>>16596263
Shame. I think there's potential for a 2D turn-based RPG series with a manga panel art style. Fucking sucks they wasted it on gacha.
f306d8 No.16597876
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16596291
That is a horrible example of gameplay
Yeah sure you need to have memorized his pattern to actually pull that off but visually it only looks like spam
Maybe video related is more friendly to the eye
>>16596342
That is really really interesting
Yeah those weapons look nice, and you're forced to switch to survive
The danger the enemies pose is actually the same in both games, but since the player in PSO2 has way more movements and is way more faster this kind of enemy is no longer an opposition
The problem is that enemies weren't fully updated, if they did it they could get us to do more strategy in fighting, but now it is more action oriented so i don't think SEGA will
Not the same as it used to be but in my opinion it does its job, could be better but its ok
>>16596371
Lets hope so…
f306d8 No.16598581
>>16597876
kind of enemy is no longer an opposition
….In their respective level you cannot rush to kill them, but is not like they apply any tactic either
The problem came with chapter 4-5 that didn't add a thing to the normal ark and free missions
So you have a level 80-90 character just stomping trough many 65-75 level enemies
Autistic rambling ahead
The ultrahard missions feel very much like the ultimate ones you cant just walk in, but you cant finish it by yourself (in its level)
So it wont be a daily thing to enter once people finish grinding it
Story is really good but the game could go stagnant if SEGA doesn't understand that they have to solve the daily missions
8cf29d No.16598660
>>16598581
Yeah, I don't see UH getting anyone running it after it's not the new hotness due to the horrific HP bloat on trash mobs. Hell, this was what killed the extra hard tier of forest, volcano, and beach. People with uber autist tier affixed 15 star weapons still struggle to kill a single trash mob on UH.
Another big issue I'm starting to see is the Everquestization of PSO2. The handful of turbo autists making youtube videos of themselves soloing the hardest new content within 4 minutes is complaining that the qualifications for expert status are too lax despite the fact that only a tiny fraction of the population is expert after that recent update. PSO2's content is becoming polarized between piss easy content that you're literally not allowed to fail for the whales and Nintendo hard content where you fight multiple bosses that all have hundreds of millions of HP, can one hit kill you, and all while you're in an anti-healing field for the turbo autists.
fa0bf6 No.16599264
PSO2 finally dead and casul, now the only cool anons are those into DDO.
73e439 No.16599502
>>16596342
Good lord that game is fucking ugly.
53ee75 No.16599563
>>16596342
>Ultima server
>bunch of broken Dark Flow bullshit
You could have at least posted a video of a hardcore Challenge mode speed run, faggot.
db251b No.16599569
>>16597876
>video
>guy literally flying around at high speeds shooting slow ass enemies
>dashes around at even high speeds one shotting slow ass enemies
>take several hits without even flinching
>easily demolished giant boss
<blind playthrough
Captcha wasn't worth defeating for this boring ass game.
53ee75 No.16599576
>>16569556
Sad to hear this image has never been wrong. The weapon systems sounds like everything I didn't like about PSU. Can you comment on enemy mob combat? The other thing I hated about PSU was that they shifted enemy behavior to drastically reduce stunning, to the point where trying to play solo in PSU was incredibly tedious and unfun. Not the case in PSO, because player skill could take you so far.
d8bfd4 No.16599584
>>16599576
I'm in the same boat as that image, but I know a guy who's first PS game was PSU and he seems to dislike PSO2 more then I do, and denies there being any salient similarities between it and PSU.
29ca4c No.16599606
>>16599576
>Can you comment on enemy mob combat?
What combat? You mostly just run around with 11 other players evaporating mobs. Hell the only time mobs don't evaporate to even a single competently geared player is when they have massively inflated HP to the point you need lots of players to kill them in a reasonable amount of time. The only time PSO2's combat shines nowadays is in certain solo boss fights.
3923c4 No.16599645
>>16569556
>>16599606
Time travelers not allowed in this thread, go back to past!
53ee75 No.16599669
>>16599645
Tell me how to get Blue Burst running well over Wine and I will. I'd like to be playing it again right now.
c3ca4e No.16599706
Are there any current PSO2 players here that can answer me one single question about the live game currently? Did they EVER make it so that the gunslash is a competetive weapon? i.e give it its own class or anything like that? It was the only weapon I gave a single shit about and year after year I kept hearing that the devs wanted to rework it into being more than a joke, but year after year it remained nothing but a toy compared to literally every other weapon in the game.
29ca4c No.16599741
>>16599706
>Did they EVER make it so that the gunslash is a competetive weapon?
The only time gunslash has been anything but a meme was long ago around the time they added Add Bullet. That was the go to mobbing PA for Rangers for a time.
a25fe5 No.16599771
I still actively play PSOBB, is PSO2 just as enjoyable an experience?
8edd7b No.16599939
>>16599706
Does good enough damage, but you don't get any particular advantage from it
You can get a 15 star from the lightstream and atlas series
>>16599771
…Read the lasts posts of the thread
And watch some videos, since its kinda subjective just how much will you enjoy, coming from PSO
81eb13 No.16599979
I tried blue burst but idk I feel kinda iffy on it? Maybe I should try a tutorial or something the controls on keyboard are horrible. Doesnt feel like a action rpg at all.
a03257 No.16600054
>>16599979
How are you playing? Be sure to press up arrow often to readjust camera to front view. In order to correctly place your target you might need to hold A/S, and then tap up arrow. Or hold W then shortly hold D and tap up arrow.
Depending on your class you need to map your techs, potions, traps to the 1-9+0 hotkey on customization menu. Low levels will feel slow since you don't have god/battle unit or V801 to shorten tech casting time. If you are on Ultima I can hunt you the best centurion/battle unit since the summer event comes out likely next week. If you are on Ultima or Ephinea I can be with you.
6b58e6 No.16600142
>>16599979
The game is half tactical. You go into a room, see what is there, figure out how you will kill it, then go about doing so. It'll take a while before things speed up to the point where it feels more active, the early levels are basically a huge tutorial. Also don't start as a Force unless you know what you're doing, you'll be blowing all your cash on Fluid if you don't
e72adf No.16600158
>>16567024
I would count on it being terrible in every conceivable way, but I'm an optimist.
f60384 No.16600182
>duckling still butthurt their ancient primitive two cells garbage will never be relevant
8c46ee No.16601298
>>16592376
>Just like play another class
No, I'm not playing Summoner.
>>16594272
>The game is exiting, balanced, fair and looks good, what else do you need?
>balanced
When certain classes downright just can't deal enough damage to clear the expert requirements, which need to be fully solo, I wouldn't consider the game balanced.
Like it was already said in the thread, the game doesn't know what it wants to do with content, they want people to solo but then introduce quests that no one wants to solo because the HP pool is so inflated you might fall asleep before even killing a trash mob.
The entire structure of the game needs to be reworked, gameplay wise the game is pretty fun but the new classes such as Hero really shows how much the old classes need a rework.
Grinding wise, leveling up gets fucking painful because there is only one quest that shows up ONE day per week that gives you solid exp, either do that for a full entire day or pray you get some keys that aren't silver.
Even though this game has a huge amount of content, all you'll be doing is this.
>log in and do your dailies and weeklies on every character
>if the EXP FQ is up, farm it if you need to level up, otherwise slack.
>slack
>wait for EQ
>EQ is trash but you do it anyway and hope for that *15 drop
>slack
>do Phanatical Phantoms because you're bored and want to validate that you still know how to play this game
>grind some *15
<but why bother when the best drops are from the EQs
>slack
The structure of the games content is broken, the game is almost around 80GB and I'm almost certain you could cut away half of that and no one would notice, because no one does it anymore.
The expert system is also incredibly alienating for new players.
Why do you think so many join in and end up leaving after a while.
I do think pso2 is a good game, and fuck for a f2p game it's the best one out there since it was ever released, don't get me wrong here, I do think there is genuine fun to have here but that doesn't take away the issues it has of which there are many even beyond those I've mentioned.
Which is why I'm actually excited for EP6 being the end of the story, hopefully they'll start working on a sequel or at least, a brand new PS title that isn't a fucking mobile game.
d8bfd4 No.16601314
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Guys, its a timed exclusive.
http://archive.is/HLpuF
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b92e64 No.16601404
>>16601298
>When certain classes downright just can't deal enough damage to clear the expert requirements
you affix your shit, eat some meat rations from Matoi, stuck photon three branch up your ass and man through it until you done it.
I did it with just DBs. What's you excuse?
Or just play meta class once to get the cheevo and forget about it forever.
>The expert system is also incredibly alienating for new players
New player won't know it fucking exists until he starts reading ever single bit of UI or somebody tells him.
>wait for EQ
I never wait for EQ. Why fucking wait for EQ? Do what you want to do, if EQ pops up and it's the one you want run it, otherwise ignore it.
You're ruining game for yourself, making some shitty arbitrary rules for yourself.
What the fuck
>>16601314
It's a regional timed exclusive for 7 years, tell me what I don't know.
7c7170 No.16601417
>>16601314
>Phil Spencer: Phantasy Star Online 2 “will end up on all platforms”
But it's already on all platforms????
29ca4c No.16601427
>>16601404
>Why fucking wait for EQ?
Probably because EQs are the only relevant content drop wise 90% of the time.
b92e64 No.16601435
>>16601427
>drops
Drops are a meme.
I just use collection files or campaigns to reliably get relevant gear and NEVER bother with RNG.
If something good drops good. If not, whatever, I already got the weapon that carried me through expert reqs.
29ca4c No.16601442
>>16601435
Collection files don't give you the best shit and are thus worthless past a point. They are filler at best.
b92e64 No.16601445
>>16601442
Best shit according to who exactly? You? What is even "the best" shit? Something you can't even affix vampiric strike onto is completely useless to me. And VS compatible 15* weapon was 100% reward from campaign, while 14* one is 100% guaranteed as long as you reach some point in the story I think.
f306d8 No.16601450
>>16601298
….What class are you using?
Even teacher should be able to do some decent amount of damage
>>16601427
Everyone is kinda obsessive with getting all weapons in 15 stars or don't you have any? 14 star weapons do enough damage to play with the other classes just fine
I only have one 15 star and im not bothering in grinding a weapon for a class that i just level up for autism
The point of any game is to have fun, you're playing it like a job, as a list of things you must do… just don't?
b92e64 No.16601453
>>16601450
You can get expert requirements with 13*.
14 and 15 stars are for steamrolling, since Sega doesn't want game to become too difficult for majority of its players.
81eb13 No.16601460
>>16600142
>>16600054
The up arrow wasn't working too well for me, as for some reason some keys didn't work. Positioning myself to do some shooting when I can't get myself to be in the right position when targeting the right or wrong thing is annoying. They approach to fast imo. I might change class but I'm on Ultima as of right now and I might install PSO2, as it already downloaded. Don't know if I can beat the Catchpa boss.
f1a6b3 No.16601480
>>16601450
People like >>16601442 and >>16601298 are the reason people like >>16596260 and >>16596142 are spouting bullshit about only damage mattering.
People are lazy, they don't want to learn, they don't want to think, they don't want to experiment. They want to grind, and get their carrot on stick. As if it was their second job.
PSO2 lets you do both.
You can have a weapon that gives you hyper armor when you do PAs, meaning you can try different subclass and different tree of passives.
You can have weapon that shoots projectiles, potentially outdamaging higher tier weapons if you use it correctly, again changing your play style.
You can have weapon seriously buffing one particular PA, making it extra useful in certain situations, meaning you might bring it along just to use when the situation presents itself.
Like in PSO1.
Or you can just stack up damage, put autohealing on and spam the same attack through everything, worst case being revived by randoms and continuing as is. Yeah you couldn't quite do that back then, but it doesn't mean you have to now, if you don't want to.
Casual scum gives PSO2 bad rep, and it's 7 years too late to change it unfortunately.
998441 No.16601589
I wouldn't mind giving this a go again, but I imagine the only way I'll stick around for any sort of time is if I have people to play it with or enjoy the setting/story for whatever reason. Can't remember much about the game except having fun with the gunner and ranger classes.
0c2dd4 No.16601748
>>16601417
bigger question if it will have crossplay at least between consoles
16bc47 No.16601880
>>16601314
Switch version when?
fae080 No.16601921
>>16601842
The core Ranger experience is getting in position, sitting back, standing still, and erasing things with giant lasers/huge explosions. The Type-0 versions of Divine Launcher and Parallel Slider are a must, and Rodeo Drive T-0 is pretty great too. Still, if you're a melee guy, you can group things up with Gravity Bomb and shotgun everything in the face with Diffuse Shell, or punch things across the room with your launcher's Zero Distance/Crazy Smash. Alternatively, use TPS mode exclusively and pretend you're playing a different game. If all else fails, grab a gunslash and be the hero PSO2 deserves.
In the end, though, if you don't like the class, there's not much you can do. You don't have to really play it to level it, though; just switch to it to turn in your daily/weekly missions and use your bonus keys, and actually play the game with a class you like.
fae080 No.16601931
>It got deleted
RIP reluctant Ranger-anon.
f992b3 No.16601944
>>16601298
>slack
Slacking is best! EQ design is good too - instead of grinding some korean-level dilluted drop you just do EQ and free to do everything else after, including grinding if you want or other shit. EQ works well to get people together. And! you can just skip it because you don't need every EQ or other shit to have good enough gear and whatever to enjoy the game and be useful.
https://youtu.be/9SWL_EVoRNg?t=114
>>16601480
>People are lazy, they don't want to learn, they don't want to think, they don't want to experiment. They want to grind, and get their carrot on stick. As if it was their second job.
>PSO2 lets you do both.
Yep. And some of those people complain about shit like boring mobbing in new EQ yet I barely see people trying to zondeel on non-Te, and even Te sometimes zondeel less than my Ph; people not trying to line up the shots for extra damage, work around agro, or moving ahead when they see the area is about to be cleared and other semi-autistic shit. They just want "fun" to be delivered to them on a platter when no one is stopping them from trying to get that fun, actually game even promotes that as you get more loot if you do better and get more runs in new ep6 EQ. If they choose to spam one PA over and over then okay, just don't say afterwards that spamming one PA is boring.
>>16601748
>at least between consoles
It's not at least, PC can crossplay with anything. Snoy was top gay about not letting nintendoo crossplay, yet both can crossplay with PC. Main PC blocks can be used by PS4 but not switch. If you take >>16601314 into account there's one thing sega might've planned to do - push xbone+PC on west and if snoy wants a piece they'll have to allow xbone-PS4 crossplay.
>>16601589
Atm Ranger is far from good, just go Phantom and forget about Ra for now. The only thing it has is lawnchair which is very nice but otherwise class is too slow and clunky for post-Hero content rape speed though still playable and sometimes very strong but often not enjoyable. Gu is top solid though.
Speaking about content - it's back to sci-fi which is fucking finally after filler episode4 and something boring and stupid episode5, and so far it's been good.
49a0f7 No.16601972
>>16601314
"all" being every platform but linux.
f306d8 No.16602088
>>16601944
>Link
>Second day of the month you get more exp
uhh… knowing this now i feel like i wasted some opportunities
Those shorts are weirdly cute, hope they make more
>people complain about shit like boring mobbing in new EQ
Wat? Really? First time i even read something remotely related
867c42 No.16602166
>>16601944
on specific hardpoints on the armada of demise final boss. end attract if aimed at the right angle can break the arms that wrap around the platform. my end attracts do about 340k damage and hit those arm weakpoints about 4 to 6 times.
also on that mission you're supposed to use nabarta type zero to block enemies.you can also use the exium bunker and a slow roll ring at level 8 to fuck up the machine boss guarding the laser cannons interior.
the class is viable moreso if you have ceres 14 stars on hand and if you know how to use impact slider/sneak shooter/parallel slider type zero/ nabarta type zero.
431d84 No.16602176
What did PSO2 play like? Would it be too late to play the game?
867c42 No.16602183
>>16602176
it plays good, most people are scrubs at ranger. the only person that seems to have his shit together is a pso2 youtube called nope.
867c42 No.16602187
>>16602183
> has his shit together when it comes to playing ranger is called nope*
867c42 No.16602201
>>16601442
collection files in 2019 are better because they're high quality fodder that can be used for leveling 14 or 15 stars. they already come at 30, you're supposed to use your emper embrace fodder for leveling weapons that need a bit of nt experience for those final 2 levels. or smash them into a nox until its level 30 and you can sell it for 3 to 4 million on the market as fodder.
so if you're not doing seasonal EQ's to get these 13 for grinding projects then you're retarded.
7858a9 No.16602259
So do you play as a girl to do all the dress up, or as a guy to be bombarded with waifus?
045825 No.16602290
>>16602259
You can dress up as either sex, for whatever purpose you want. A lot of joke outfits exist too. Female outfits are on average expensive, male ones are relatively cheap. Accessories are expensive all around due to their universal nature.
Also, male CAST are great.
867c42 No.16602309
>>16602259
with the right costumes and cast heads you can make your cast look like a security mook from ruiner
f306d8 No.16602346
>>16602176
You'll feel slow at first but as you get skills and actual skill to play your gameplay will be faster
You'll be a glass cannon until you get some armor
Its never late to start, on the contrary starting now you will start with the 6 episodes of content to play you will have to unlock a lot of stuff tho
>>16602259
>Not having an eye candy during all gameplay
Most of the population plays as female
Pic related
>>16602290
Casts in general get more options to customize
045825 No.16602498
>>16602346
>Casts in general get more options to customize
Sure, but you're stuck with no ears and an unsightly line on your neck.
a03257 No.16602785
>>16601460
You know you can post the captcha and someone can type it, and you copy paste that. And if you do decide on playing Ultima lets play sometime.
cb64da No.16602827
Just curious, is there a comprehensive list of who all the "Poster-ARKS" are? The few I've gone out of my way to identify so far are-
>Human Sword Hunter (MAIN POSTERBOY): Ash
>Newman TMG Gunner: Leo
>Deuman Bow Braver: Nagisa
>Human Female Phantom: Helga
>Human Jet Boot Bouncer: Momoka
>Human Female Hero: Silfa
>Human Male Phantom: Shizuru
What were some of the others?
29ca4c No.16602862
>>16602827
Pretty sure the fonewearl is Rupika.
fae080 No.16603012
81eb13 No.16603022
Made a PSO2 account, Catchpa boss was ez. Wtf? I'll probably play tomorrow.
d8bfd4 No.16603055
>>16603022
You realize there is a good chance that a JP account will not work on the US server right? As in, you will need to start over.
045825 No.16603161
>>16603022
have fun
>>16603055
Won't hurt to learn how not to fuck up a mag before starting for real.
5b9677 No.16603382
>>16602498
Casts get a lot of advantages, including
>cheaper voice tickets
>the ability to use cast parts
>can switch between running around and jetting around
>can get really fucking tiny or really fucking huge
And it used to be the only race that could switch skin colour to anything on the spectrum, though now any race can do that. Pretty good upsides for no ears (can be hidden) and a neckseam (barely noticable).
ac2488 No.16603424
>>16603055
It's over a year from now….. the date is a XBOX time exclusive until it comes on PC (x) amount of months later lol..
f992b3 No.16604030
>>16603382
No ears is actually good when using animal ears. I use choker to hide neck seam. Also female キャスト gets very nice default innerwear plus robotic eyes+facepaint+hairstyle, they get a bit less eyelashes though.
The only other race that can compete with kyasuto are dewmans as they get heterochromia, eyes, horns and very nice bodypaints. Reminder that hiding horns on dewman is heresy!
Newmans are just elves which is cute . I don't think humans have anything other than "muh humanity", yet for some reasons they top the charts.
81eb13 No.16605959
So dumb you cant move between ships.
7de12b No.16606007
>>16565341
wonder if we will ever get a Knuckles + Boots + Bazooka class
76f06f No.16606108
>>16601314
So the Xbox is resorting to poaching PSVita games to showcase for their E3 show?
5f5d57 No.16606297
>>16606007
I'd love to see a Knuckles + Jet Boots Martial Arts class myself. Would be great for my waifu build.
f6246b No.16610604
So I been playing and some mission I feel like I kill some monster and are just too "easy" it feels bland? When I did the tutorial the level felt right for the time to kill the monsters and fight the boss. What's going on? Am I doing too easy of levels?
c13624 No.16610683
>>16606108
Is there a way to get the fan translation of PSO2 working on Vita? I have a hacked vita so that's not an issue for me but I really want to play this on Vita.
c13624 No.16610690
>>16603424
Simultaneous launch on PC and Xbone, faggot.
325e27 No.16610691
>>16610604
That's just PSO2. Enemies move like they have diabetes. Don't worry, about four difficulty levels later they move slightly faster, so in about fifty or sixty levels it becomes more difficult. Not difficult - the game never stops being extremely easy - but a little more difficult than it was.
b2908c No.16611355
>>16610691
>Not difficult - the game never stops being extremely easy
Doesn't seem to be the case for all the mouth breathing retards that I keep ending up with in every single EQ that can't do half the damage I could do at half their level while dying in a single hit.
8cf29d No.16611422
>>16611355
>while dying in a single hit.
I blame rappy shine for this shit. People see the +777 HP and think they're Sundowner, then a boss sneezes at them, and they end up on the floor after eating 2.5-3K damage because rappy shine has literally 0 defense. Meanwhile, I'm sporting the welfare phobos set because god hates me and can survive anything that isn't a boss' big damage attack.
>>16610691
The game does indeed stop being extremely easy. It's called extreme missions. The problem is that those missions are Nintendo hard, not actually challenging. The rest of the content is meant for the whales with no skill, which is why we now get automatically revived during boss fights in the new emergency quest. PSO2 really hit a new level of casual with that shit.
93e581 No.16611452
still no word yet on how the (((localization))) is going to be?
3792a5 No.16613336
>>16602176
Plays like slower clunkier DMC game with 3rd person camera.
346296 No.16613463
>>16565446
No its coming to PS4. Just timed exclusive and marketing rights. Apparently the only reason this is even coming is because MS is funding the localisation.
I am wondering if the game is getting censored. PSO is 100% otaku. Half naked lolis everywhere. Xbox is American normalfaggot now so I don't think this will make any waves for MS.
3792a5 No.16613637
>>16613463
Of fucking course it's gonna be censored.
It's not like you won't be able to still use nude mods and what not.
dfe370 No.16613654
>>16610683
Yes, although it doesn't translate any of the story. It's mostly UI and a good chunk of that is untranslated as well. It's enough to get by though. It can be buggy after enough updates and force you to reinstall the whole game occasionally however.
There's a VPK you can download if you look up the Arkz Layer website and should have enough instructions for you to get it working.
045825 No.16613669
8a8ab6 No.16613852
>put 4k hours into this
>meanwhile maximum I've put into any other online game/mmo is 60h at best
>it is to shut down in 2020
>meanwhile unplayable garbage like wow or warframe will most likely run for decades
>mfw heroes die young, while villains live forever
3792a5 No.16613862
>>16613852
>it is to shut down in 2020
That's 2022.
3cfe38 No.16613866
>>16613852
serves you right for grinding and p2w
16bc47 No.16613895
>>16613637
You will when Microsoft revokes your Windows license key. :^)
3792a5 No.16613990
>>16613895
What license key?