6571f3 No.16525609
Death Stranding is actually just rewritten Serial Experiments Lain
https://archive.fo/mLbGM
Rope was the wired all along.
e3e4d3 No.16525618
What kind of retard expected Kojumbo to write anything original, when every single one of his games are plagiarizing something?
22d6ea No.16525619
And he will be praised as original.
c919da No.16525620
That opening sentence says it all
>going to a FILM FESTIVAL to promote a VIDEO GAME
inb4 shills return to defend the obvious pozzed shit as a "metaphor"
42ced1 No.16525622
Pretty funny coming from a guy who tweets more often than I piss.
af9b03 No.16525627
If anybody couldn't figure that out from all the symbolism, then holy shit
c08559 No.16525631
Says Kojima, the dude with like 75,000 tweets.
40c524 No.16525634
You'll still see people saying "IT'S ABOUT DUP" after this.
8c1fca No.16525638
a988c9 No.16525641
>he was at a FILM FESTIVAL
>to promote his VIDEO GAME
Not even hiding it.
>"it will make you cry because it's so emotional :^)"
this will be a pretty big trash pile, m8
079a6d No.16525644
But I don't want to connect, I want to raise my beautiful white family in peace.
42ced1 No.16525646
>>16525641
He's still right about the crying part but not in the way he's hoping.
6571f3 No.16525651
>>16525620
>>16525641
>going to a FILM FESTIVAL to promote a VIDEO GAME
Yeah, i noticed that. Pretty fucking comical.
59e55a No.16525653
>>16525627
What were the clues that pointed to that?
a68041 No.16525659
I hate this mentally unstable jap and his faggot fans. I hope this game flops and all of his fans kill themselves on release night.
856aa0 No.16525663
Before the recent trailer
>Oh looks like its going to be some creepy Lovecraft shit.
>Perhaps this is a love letter to the Silent Hill games since he was dropped from making it.
After the recent trailer
>Oh its about how the internet is made up of tubes and bunch of silly shit
I came in expecting survival horror. Left with another generic walking simulator. My disappointment knows no bounds.
c919da No.16525666
>>16525622
An anon from the previous soy stranding thread really nailed how Cuckjima is a stooge who clearly didn't understand the message about generating endlessly flowing and worthless digital information in MGS2.
0f4b52 No.16525673
I haven't seen the new trailer yet, is it even worth watching to form my own opinion?
59e55a No.16525676
>>16525673
It's just some guy walking places to the sound of rock.
EXCITING WALKING ACTION IN AN OPEN FIELD, LOOK AS YOU CAN USE A LADDER!
c919da No.16525678
>>16525673
Yes, if only to see what generic, pozzed trash it is.
6571f3 No.16525685
>>16525653
BT's a wired people.
a988c9 No.16525687
>>16525659
>I hope this game flops
it's overhyped to hell and back, every normalfag weeb and every nip gachashitter is going to preorder it and fellate each other about its deep message even after it turns out to be garbage. because
>"IT'S KOJIMA!"
f3b1e3 No.16525690
When the fuck are Hackdeo Cuckjima fags gonna be free of this hack's spell already? I gave up on him when the snoozefest known as MGS4 came out yet these faggots will continue sucking his cock even after this shitty overhyped walking simulator where you carry your wife's son drops and is as unimpressive as anyone with half a brain would expect it to be.
c919da No.16525692
>>16525687
>every normalfag weeb and every nip gachashitter
The game is so pozzed with Hollywood fags andbso blatantly inspired by modern western games that no weeb of any description would buy this.
c919da No.16525694
>>16525692
*and so blatantly
42ced1 No.16525698
>>16525687
It's gonna be one of those games that would've done incredibly well had it not been overproduced by at the same time without that production nobody would've given a shit.
92b46a No.16525703
WHAT A GENIUS
THIS GAME TRULY WILL BE GOTY, BUYING A PS5 RIGHT NOW
59e55a No.16525705
>>16525692
I have a theory that the end portion with the men in the army gear, this is just Kojima trying to do your typical "hurr violent military videogames are bad".
accef4 No.16525709
Gookjima is shit, and frankly he's been shit since MGS2 "muh epic pseudo-intellectual, half-assed porstmordrnishm guiz"
fuck you faggots for ever taking him seriously
92f52d No.16525716
>kojimbo
>lainfaggotry
MAXIMUM HIPSTER TRASH
bc0033 No.16525718
>>16525663
I feel you anon. I expected some existential bullshit, but in a difference sense, like traveling in brink of life and death, messages about pollution and birth. I expected some kind of story about humanity not being able to reproduce any longer and Norman searching for his missing offspring among hallucinations caused by morbid aliens. I wanted surreal game, but instead its a political message (bridges not walls) and the internet addiction commentary.
92b46a No.16525726
>>16525718
>Expecting anything else from Hollywoodjima
1a09e6 No.16525727
>>16525663
>Oh looks like its going to be some creepy Lovecraft shit.
Either you don't know what Lovecraftain themes are or you never watched a single DS trailer but that was never ever the vibe.
>Perhaps this is a love letter to the Silent Hill games since he was dropped from making it.
Silent HillS, aka "P.T", hints are still in the Death Stranding.
>I came in expecting survival horror
Lmao. Learn to read spastic. You disappointed yourself because since day 1 Kojima has clearly stated this was an open world action game. He even compared it to the Division and Uncharted at the fucking reveal event back in 2016.
>Left with another generic walking simulator.
Are faggots like you incapable of expressing critic outside of meaningless buzzwords?
bc0033 No.16525735
>>16525727
>He even compared it to the Division and Uncharted at the fucking reveal event back in 2016.
That sounded so gross back then, it was almost unbelievable. When i read that comment i thought that kojima just doesn't play a lot of games and can't bring up better examples.
But even your inventory is kind of like in division in recent trailer.
0f4b52 No.16525736
>>16525718
I had doubts I was going to get it to start with, but I'm not going to get anything that reminds me about my internet addiction. I already beat myself up enough about it.
2a70f8 No.16525741
>>16525609
>Tribeca film festival
I guess he couldn't afford to be at Cannes.
a988c9 No.16525744
>>16525692
you wish
>2017
>weeb friend wants to go to an anime convention (read: buy imported doujins and daki covers while ogling fujoshits in cosplay)
>figure I might as well go with him
>there's a vidya panel
>go see it
>first half is gachashit
>then comes hour and a half of nonstop shilling for death stranding
>starts by showing some cinematic trailer that shows fuck all
>continues with half an hour talking about how amazing it's going to be
>then come fan theories about what it actually fucking is
>ends by unironically calling Kojima a genius and a visionary
127dff No.16525746
>>16525666
A lot of people forget that there was second writer on MGS 1, 2 and 3, Tomokazu Fukushima, who was not present in 4 or 5. The games without him don't have the espionage punch that the ones he staffed are on, and I honestly feel that he was probably the one who we can thank for being able to filter Kojimas nonsense into the horror that was the Patriots.
I feel it should be no surprise that Koima is just coasting on his popularity made on the backs of others to make a platform to espouse his Hollywood Indoctrinated dribble from.
accef4 No.16525748
>>16525718
>i expected some existential bullshit
>2019
>not knowing Kojima is an impeccably conventional liberal dipshit
ifonlyyouknewhowbadthingsreallyare.jpg
af9b03 No.16525750
>>16525685
Before opening that image I thought those first two Lain screenshots were NiN albums.
92b46a No.16525751
>>16525744
No wonder it's constantly shilled on the internet
59e55a No.16525755
>>16525750
Spiral is the better album
accef4 No.16525764
>>16525639
I am proud to say I've known this about Kojima since MGS2 and I'm old enough to remember you faggots sucking MGS5 dick even though it was 4th rate Derridian feminism.
51deb6 No.16525771
Was I seriously the only one to think this game was fishy to begin with?
>Oooh but it's KOJIMA! Literally the fucking SAINT OF GAMING OF OUR TIME!
Fuck anyone who thinks this, eat more cake.
Anyone who thinks a game is going to be amazing just because of a name are dumb fucks.
I'm remaining skeptical until I see something reliable other than 'muh cryptic messages and metaphors'.
Keep huffing your own farts.
accef4 No.16525772
>>16525634
it really is about dup
>>16525639
lmao
21b0ab No.16525785
People give Kojima too much shit. It's not like any Jap has ever had an original idea, it's just not in their nature.
c96ed5 No.16525789
>>16525771
It was fishy the second Norman Reedus was announced and it became clear he wanted a hollywood cast on the game.
>>16525772
Why do you keep saying dup?
92b46a No.16525791
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>>16525750
>>16525755
I fucking miss the 90s and early 00s
>>16525764
MGSV and Witcher 3 shilling killed this board, I swear to God
>>16525771
No, anyone who didn't suck Kojimas dick, was burned by other devs and had half a brain was automatically skeptical when they showed no gameplay
FOR 3 FUCKING YEARS
2ef1c9 No.16525794
>>16525609
>The future is in your hands
Why do people calls this Care Bears levels of shit good writing again? This line would be considered too corny for the MCU?
53f641 No.16525805
>>16525746
Don't forget that Kojima retconned the Patriots as dystopian thought control that was actually good until evil people took over it rather than the program being evil in itself.
>>16525794
They would treat it like a joke one-liner and even that would be preferable.
36a480 No.16525813
it is leftcuck propaganda
screenshot this post
af9b03 No.16525821
>>16525791
Pretty Hate Machine is from the 80's
6a62ae No.16525830
>>16525821
I can almost guarantee you that nigger was born in 99
2a70f8 No.16525839
>>16525826
She's from a shit anime called Re:Creators, and is the only redeemable part of it.
fbc045 No.16525840
Only people who were edgy teens when mgs2 came put still care about kojima.
the man is a hack and his movies, sorry, "games" are nothing but boring mechanics stacked on each other with a nonsensical plot.
this new turd has surfed a 2deep4u wave ever since its announcement. You all knew next to nothing about the "game" until now. And you continued sucking his dick because papa kojima promised to fill y
the hole between your legs if you gave a good succ.
Bunch of idiots
26d62b No.16525841
>>16525609
>but its really new
>its something new
That soy sushi wouldnt be capable of selling cold water on a desert.
>new idea in the game
>youre connecting the game and everyone playint it together
so its multiplayer? coop?
6571f3 No.16525844
"Look at those anonymous internet trolls, hanging around in the wired, waiting to prey on people for lulz juice. Give them your real name and they will troll the shit out of you to get you to support Donald Trump and his Wall policy!" - "Don't be like them, have Breach Baby, have sex, have children!"
-Hideo Kojima, at Oscar nomination speech for his new thought provoking movie
92b46a No.16525845
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>>16525821
I'd miss the 80s if I was born in that decade
Anything that isn't post 2007 financial crisis low risk creative bankruptcy and post election politics.
>>16525830
1995
92b46a No.16525849
>>16525840
Kojimadrones have done this for years
They still pretend MGS4 and 5 were good games
42ced1 No.16525855
>>16525840
I get the feeling it's mostly fags who latched on from let's plays after 4 killed the series. Remember when people on cuck/v/ would shill for that Chip Cheezum faggot? That's the current audience for Kojima's games.
83f1e2 No.16525863
>>16525659
Except it won't because all the kojimadrones and regular marvel watching soygoys will suck it up because the critics said it was good
42ced1 No.16525878
>>16525863
If it doesn't bomb the sequel they've probably chopped the last third of the game off to make out of definitely will. Moviegame faggots have no attention span or loyalty.
ed5966 No.16525880
>>16525639
To be fair, being Japanese (Japan being under UN's Enemy State Clause) you should be afraid of any political climate in America because you can't even openly state that retard (be it trump, chieftain obongo or bush dynasty) in chief will just do whatever israel wants while pretending on the international stage America is a functional country with a clear and defined agenda and ideology is like dancing around a schizophrenic who somehow has nukes.
>America will fuck off from being world police
>oops, we're bombing Syria lol
>Trump approves of Intermarium plan in Poland
>but signs in a law that enables jewish extortion of Polish property using State Department as the goon doing strongarming.
>We'll build a wall
>no wall in sight
42ced1 No.16525884
Don't even respond to it.
92b46a No.16525899
>>16525880
I'm more afraid of the jewSA becoming mutt only and changing their culture upside down because they don't have a centralized culture or race anymore.
>is like dancing around a schizophrenic who somehow has nukes.
That sums it up pretty well
9f4f6f No.16525914
>>16525618
Name and look of main character of his most known game series is stright plagiarzed. But it's ok, he is artist and he is paying homage.
6571f3 No.16525918
>>16525899
>USA becoming mutt only
Will never happen. Trust me. Number of people not wanting to interbreed are high on both black and white sides. Its interesting to observe as well.
ed5966 No.16525923
>>16525899
They have an anti-culture which destroys actual cultures, in a similar way jews created a parasitic anti-civilization by basing it on an inversion of values all other functional civilizations created.
> mythos is star wars and capeshit, exported everywhere
>"folk" cuisine is McDonalds, KFC and Burger Kang
>"folk" music is unbearable ebonics rapping about rape, gang violence and profiting off of thug life
>"folk" clothing is t-shirt with a commercial and jeans
>Instead of healthy values there's consumption and hedonism only
>Everyone can be "american" becuase the requirement is consuming, as long as you have money you can do it, if you don't ari goldbaum will be more than happy to give you a loan.
26d62b No.16525928
>>16525844
>have sex, have children!
I wonder who could be behind this post.
9f4f6f No.16525937
>>16525791
Was there really MGSV shilling? All i remeber was butthurt becouse it wasn't what people wanted.
Also that no gameplay for ages was so wierd. Maybe they didn't have it at first but why it took this long. It would have been ok for something like from game becouse every one knows that it will be action rpg, But here there was just trailers full of walking and somehow thats not game now??
ed5966 No.16525938
>>16525841
>That soy sushi wouldnt be capable of selling cold water on a desert.
You say that, but what if everyone on that desert was a Kojima fan?
>so its multiplayer? coop?
Integrated forum (^:
>>16525928
>Japan's birthrates increase
>there's not enough room on the island
>they annex korean peninsula and exterminate all koreans for all the judaism-lite they attempt.
Can't wait.
c20fc5 No.16525946
>>16525780
PRESENT DAY, HEH
dbcb44 No.16525949
>>16525918
20% is sickeningly low, though.
26d62b No.16525958
>>16525839
what a shame
>>16525938
>Integrated forum
>its about people not connecting in real life
>add a forum in the game
WEW!
e7b594 No.16525961
>>16525946
PRESENT TIME, HAHAHAHA
99a10e No.16525971
>>16525609
>Serial Experiments Lain but without Lain
Wow what a pile of hot shit.
>>16525794
Please do not insult the Care Bears like that.
53f641 No.16525975
>>16525949
Mutt marriages will stay low because everyone, even minorities, prefer to marry into their own race. Except for black women who are generall hypergamous and seek out huwhitey instead of black men. No one wants black women though.
c20fc5 No.16525976
>>16525961
FZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
a3f0ef No.16525980
>>16525975
You must not live in a very large city, they're fucking everywhere.
362d43 No.16525984
No shit? Every new "game" Kojima releases is more of a movie and less of a game. Even Policenauts is more of a simple fun game then whatever this Death Stranding crap will be.
e408e5 No.16525985
>>16525976
AND YOU DON’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND
c20fc5 No.16525996
>>16525985
A SHAME YOU SEEMED AN HONEST MAN
117ac7 No.16526017
>>16525923
> mythos is star wars and capeshit, exported everywhere
False. The core to the US mythos is the conception of the founding fathers and Revolutionary War you see presented in old skits like Schoolhouse Rock. The Mayflower and "religious freedom". The first Thanksgiving and "two continents coming together". The Revolutionary War and "liberty". It's mostly bullshit, but it's the American mythos.
>"folk" cuisine is McDonalds, KFC and Burger Kang
False. Just jewgle "American cuisine". The thing that makes American cuisine difficult to consider is that it's founded principally upon fusion between different things. The bigger thing to consider is new world crops like corn and potatoes - even if we think of the latter as more Irish, that's historically inaccurate until very recently.
>"folk" music is unbearable ebonics rapping about rape, gang violence and profiting off of thug life
False. There is actual American folk from, fittingly, the folk genre. Country is effectively the white man's equivalent to rap, and is a more accurate thing to bring up than the latter. Rock music is heavily America, with only the British being close. Metal is much the same. Then you have the "traditional" American songs like "My Country Tis of Thee" and all of that stuff. If you want to get down to it, there are also a lot of American composers in classical - the thing is, since that sort of thing doesn't pay as well, the people with those skills end up scoring films.
>"folk" clothing is t-shirt with a commercial and jeans
Half Accurate, but also not a problem. I would argue that high fashion is a bigger problem than the common person's clothes. The t-shirt is a masterwork in terms of providing clothing that is easy to manufacture with a minimum amount of resources, and I'd associate t-shirts less with commercials for brands, and more with representation for organizations, since nearly every non-profit or other group uses them. I would give, however, that brand name logos and the like are sickening. Jeans, on the other hand, are work pants, and you're sickeningly white collar and entitled if you have a problem with them. They're long-lasting, easy to repair, and comfortable.
>Instead of healthy values there's consumption and hedonism only
Half True. The 'American ideals' are the ones outlined in the mythos - liberty in the various forms (speech, guns, etc.), and the ability to climb up. The 'American dream' of going from shoe-shining boy to billionaire is a big part of it. Is it accurate? Not really. Is there much vertical room in the present state? No. Does the state actually respect liberty? Not a great deal. Do all of the people? Less and less, but mostly isolated to the coastal areas. I would agree that consumption is the biggest thing pressed currently, and that's a big shame. But the actual 'ideals' are separate from the actions taken.
>Everyone can be "american" becuase the requirement is consuming, as long as you have money you can do it, if you don't ari goldbaum will be more than happy to give you a loan.
There's a lot of pushback in that, really. The whole immigration thing wouldn't be as big of a deal if it wasn't for the fact that most Americans do want "American" to be fairly exclusive. As an aside, there's nothing wrong with loans with sufficient collateral and a way to back it up in the future, since it spurs personal growth, but that's all economics.
aa405b No.16526030
>>16526017
I think the other anon was arguing in favor of America becoming a country without identity and strictly corporatist and consumerist. You do have some interesting points, though, and I do agree that jeans are pretty fucking comfy.
5f527c No.16526032
>>16525971
it literally is tho
42ced1 No.16526037
>>16526030
The other "anon" was just desperately trying to derail the thread like all the other ones that become to anti-Sony.
d20783 No.16526069
At least he's copying something good.
264e92 No.16526097
>>16525741
>Cannes
that's because he ate it
b1077c No.16526102
>five death stranding threads
MARK
92b46a No.16526106
>>16526102
Just wait until I can cash out their check
42ced1 No.16526108
>>16526102
He won't even do anything about the blatant derail attempts and IP hopping. Gotta wait for somebody to make a false flag copypasta criticism of this game, think DmC2, so he can use it as carte blanche to delete anything remotely negative.
94c1f8 No.16526126
>>16525839
>>>16525839
>Her parts and a few other rare moments were the only thing that made suffering through that shitshow worth it
64d824 No.16526257
>>16525946
>Death stranding boots up
>"present day….Present time heheheahaha!"
imagine it opens with that
c919da No.16526263
>>16525845
>le 90s XD
>>16525791
>1995
Kill yourself. We have enough Zillenials shitting up the site and creating fake nostalgia for shit they never fucking grew up with. Go back to listening to your offbrand synthwave shit music while trying to figure out new ways to overuse the word "aesthetic" so your normalfag friends will think you're smart.
f1c1a5 No.16526277
>>16526263
That synthwave meme shit was fucking embarrassing, especially with the majority of it being slowed down japanese city pop.
7c48a2 No.16526314
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>>16525653
The second trailer gave it out really, the long section with the baby ending with the operatives searching the sewers with cables to find the "decoy baby".
e74bf3 No.16526338
a78227 No.16526340
>>16525918
Quick reminder that the five races of humanity are genetically separate species, and that Haldane's Rule applies in mixes between them (as well as dozens of other genetic illnesses).
859d62 No.16526347
The first two trailers really got the people going, but the silence since and now this has killed my interest in the game. I was maybe expecting layered realms of existence, we had to descend further down into what could be hell as things get weirder. We start with the lush and green place and then descend into the beach area, then the war torn zone with Mads etc.
a78227 No.16526361
Should we crowdfund some of the production costs for a feature film and just give that to Kojima so that he can finally actually just make a goddamn movie and get it out of his system? Why isn't anyone just giving him a movie license? If he finally makes a fucking non-interactive hebewood jerkfest, maybe he will be able to come back to video games and actually make a real game again.
10e1d2 No.16526410
>>16526340
>five genetically separate species
Could you please point me to your sources?
42ced1 No.16526445
>>16526361
Making a movie isn't what he wants. He wants the Hollywood life that comes with doing that.
293a3a No.16526446
>>16526106
Did you make this?
7c4f0c No.16526487
>>16526340
>not killing your enemies and realizing their skulls are different
362d43 No.16526494
>>16526445
This. Any movie Kojima would make would bomb and kill his career. At least by making game movies, he can still hang around the famous stars and pretend he is still a respected auter.
11dd9a No.16526519
>>16525620
b-b-b-b-b-but konami made him do it!
4fc05f No.16526559
ed5966 No.16526560
>>16526559
(((Easy Goman)))
c6b7e0 No.16526597
>>16525609
Death Stranding is actually pretentious hipster bullshit, you meant.
3b715a No.16526598
>>16525996
at what point did mark seem an honest man?
58ee83 No.16526646
>>16526340
>Haldane's Rule
what's that
39f895 No.16526669
>>16525644
I am willing to bet that you are overweight and have been single for more than 18 months.
afa371 No.16526690
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Is it just me, or does this rapper's music video look a lot like Death Stranding? I wonder if it was intentional.
42ced1 No.16526692
>>16526690
All masturbatory media masquerading as art has hit a singularity at this point, yes.
99a10e No.16526695
>>16526598
When he said that he would take care of it.
92b46a No.16526760
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>>16526263
>>16526277
>Stop disliking the current state of media and political discourse
>Stop liking a better time
>Stop liking good music
Nah
d5f5dd No.16526777
>>16525949
Think of it this way, that's 20% that will admit it
f69654 No.16526861
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>>16526760
It's one thing to appreciate good music from another time. It's another level of faggotry to speak of it like it was actually new and relevant when you were alive, which is what late millennial/gen z faggots like yourself have a real problem with, especially considering you don't even know what decade [insert old song here] is actually from half the time. Also Trent Reznor is a massive cuck faggot and NiN will always be baby's first industrial band. Neck yourself.
>>16526277
Dubs of truth.
It's especially embarrassing considering there's an ocean of actual honest-to-god synth from the 80s that these millennial-z niggers won't even attempt to look for, instead preferring off-brand modern synthwave shit that just sounds like a facsimile of real 80s synth. It's like how that shitty band Gretta van fleet is praised for sounding like Led Zeppelin, even though you can listen to old Zep or any of their contemporaries at any given time.
92b46a No.16526903
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>>16526861
>Also Trent Reznor is a massive cuck faggot and NiN will always be baby's first industrial band.
I wasn't even talking about NIN specifically, I simply miss grungy and dark content in movies and videogames, NIN was simply a mainstream example of that at the time, when subcultures and scenes weren't completely filled with hipsters and trannies despite shitton of normalfag posers.
>If you listen to synthwave you don't listen to synth
You keep implying stuff like everyone below your age here is a normalnigger with no taste
f69654 No.16526963
>>16526903
>scenes weren't completely filled with hipsters and shitton of normalfag posers.
Scenes always had faggots like that, but you wouldn't know that as you never grew up with one nor can you even research about music before your time. Only thing you millenial-z niggers know how to do is speculate and engage in revisionism about shit you never grew up with, and when called out on your anachronistic bullshit you get defensive and just invoke your posturing nostalgia like we're supposed to think you're think your some connoisseur of culture.
>NIN was simply a mainstream example of that at the time
Funny you mention them while invoking the subculture shit. Protip kid: people who were actually into industrial considered NiN a bunch of sell-outs, especially considering NiN is why we later he had to suffer through 90s pseudo-industrial faggotry like Marilyn Manson.
>You keep implying stuff like everyone below your age here is a normalnigger with no taste
With faggots like you spreading their broad generalized misinformed faux-nostalgia everywhere, you are.
If you're going to engage with shit before your time, try to be less of a posturing, pretentious, self-indulgent nigger about it.
42ced1 No.16526983
Someone really doesn't want this thread to be about Sony's latest turd.
591f96 No.16527013
>>16525609
>Kojinob goes on about how his game is deep and groundbreaking and full of social commentary.
>Shows gameplay.
>Its just basically Metal Gear Solid V: Creepy baby edition.
>Obviously it has no Snake or Big Boss.
>So just another action stealth game with no real selling point.
Gonna sit this one out.
10c182 No.16527015
>>16525653
Everything is 'wired'. The logo has a bunch of strands dripping, umbilical cords of BTs, web-like pattern on top of U.S. lands, President Cancer telling Sam to "reunite" the country. It's everywhere.
e8c686 No.16527032
>/mu/ discussion
Never got into industrial at all in my youth, and only listened to grips, if that is even remotely industrial. Any albums I should start with to see what I like?
>kojimbo plagiarizing Lain
I can't stop laughing, and I can guess Fukushima is laughing too.
f69654 No.16527043
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>>16527032
>Any albums I should start with to see what I like?
Here. also a lot of industrial acts tend to be left-leaning faggots, so try to ignore any of their political bullshit.
42ced1 No.16527051
>>16527015
Also the wordplay of the title.
92b46a No.16527054
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>>16526963
>people who were actually into industrial considered NiN a bunch of sell-outs
And they were, but again, it influenced tons of vidya and movies, you're completely misrepresenting my statement and dishing out retarded rhetoric .
>With faggots like you spreading their broad generalized misinformed faux-nostalgia
Because I missed a time when Rock and Metal were toe to toe with R&B in the charts and tons of other lesser known media reflected that despite shittons of garbage bands?
Sure, whatever you want to believe
>you never grew up with a scene
Nobody cares about your ICP fueled Juggalo phase
e8c686 No.16527061
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>>16527043
>spoiler
Which is ironic, as a 'pop-py' band from the same generation, Rush, had much more skeptical rhetoric. A pair of dancing shoes, the Soviets are the blues…"
290846 No.16527408
>>16526030
Comfy for certain work, but not that comfy in general.
af9b03 No.16527453
I'm curious what enemy/character from this game is going to become a porn fad for 2 weeks.
a6e706 No.16527465
Anyone who says hi to me gets their internets haxxed!!!!1
92b46a No.16527487
>>16527465
Stupid bitch u can't hax or nothin, I got Norton
f3a228 No.16527495
>>16527453
I hope its a qt tentacle monster.
955a12 No.16527510
>>16526963
>posturing, pretentious, self-indulgent nigger
pot meet kettle
b428fe No.16527797
>>16525676
>Tamers 2 will never actually happen
fuck
bcdaac No.16528426
>>16526410
hello Normal Person
cbb3b4 No.16528450
>>16525627
I only watched the first trailer, the one at E3 years ago.
>>16525805
Considering Kojima is a neo-liberal twat, I'm not surprised.
>>16525609
I hate how Lain was in my backlog (really long, prolly will never finish it) and somewhat recently got popular, so now I sort of don't want to watch it.
e019cf No.16528481
>>16525609
Remember when Kojima marketed his games on gameplay and the outline of the plot, and how cool it was to discover all the extra layers within the story, themes, characters and symbolism? I do
f657d3 No.16528497
>>16526735
Many people are probably hiding their power levels.
92b46a No.16528499
>>16528450
>recently got popular, so now I sort of don't want
>It got popular so it's bad
Nigger off yourself, just stop watching or playing stuff altogether since most obscure stuff you like will be liked by trannies as well.
cbb3b4 No.16528546
>>16528499
Don't be mean! >w< It's not my fault I get turned off by something because it's getting popular with pseudo-otaku! And tranny faggotry's got nothing to do with it!
>>16525609
Wait, who's writing the game?
62bc3b No.16528593
There's three other death stranding threads, faggot
fa6775 No.16528657
>>16525918
It's actually quite amusing, if you look at dating site statistics, the vast majority of everyone wants to stay within their own race except black men. I can't decide if its because of their own nature or because black women are insufferable.
fa6775 No.16528661
>>16527453
They're just Hollywood actors. I'd honestly be surprised.
98058e No.16528666
>>16528546
> >w<
Please fuck off this board.
737278 No.16528693
>>16528546
You are just a hipster, and that is really fucking gay so there you go.
dabcaa No.16528708
>>16525975
>mutt
clearly you suck a lot of kike dick if you say that so damn casually despite the fact it's a forced meme
>>>/bog/
dabcaa No.16528710
c61864 No.16528718
this thread is fucking gay
cfbd51 No.16528751
But Can We Talk About How Absolutely Excellent of a Series the Hit Animated American Series "Family Guy" Is? Family Is Quite Literally the Epitome of the Perfect Balance of Media and Substance. You See What Kojima Doesn't Understand Is the Sheer Knowledge of That Is Backed Behind the Expertise of Seth McFarland and Seth Green. Think of Peter Griffin's Signature Catchphrase "The Bird Is the Word". What Can We Infer from This Stupifying Phrase. Take a Look at the Principal Subject of the Sentence, It Is Conversation- or Translating the Motive Thoughtform into the Observer's Mind That the "Bird" Is in Constant Presence Among You. Now Lets Take a Glance at the Participial, the Word. the Spoken and Written Word Is the Most Important Part of Human Social Structure. It Is the Most Fundamental and Close Way We Communicate, However the Writer Does NOT Make the Distinction Whether the "Word" Used in This Sentence Is Spoken, or Written. What Seth McFarland Implies Is That the Silent Struggle Between Spoken and Written Media and How It Creates a Divide Among the Various Personalities of Humanity. the Boisterous and the Bold Favor the Spoken Word for the Impactful Timing the Reverberations the Human Voice Creates, While the Introverted Prefer the Written Word for the Amount of Time a Writer Can Be Allotted to Write in That Given Time. the Pure Diverse Complexities That "Family Guy" Shows Is Absolutely Stunning, and Bashes All Pretentious Kojimafags That Worship the Bigotted and White C*mskin Worshipping Metal Gear Solid and Evangelion Series.
We Can Talk About How Much of a Failure You are OP. While You Were Typing Away on Your Pathetic Little Silloque About Your Virgin Escapades I Was Observing (Or Rather Absorbing) the Pure Fountain of Experience That Mr. Farland Has Shed Among the Masses. Unfortunately the Podunk Yoeman Lain C*mskins like You Have Not Finally Open Your Eyes to the Incratrices of the Hit American Animated Television Show “Family Guy”. at First Glance I Can Tell That the Metal Gear Brain Damage Has Already Impacted Your Mind in the Form a Facile Sponge. Completely Fascull! and the Massive Passive-Aggression That Has Taken Place in Your Post Is Much like a Battlefield, Riddled with the Blood of Passers-By, but Instead It Is the Semen of White Boys. at This Moment Sitting in My Lovely Chair I Can Only Observe What It Means to Be an Enlighten Gamer, and Not a Kojimo Movie Man. like Have You Played God Hand Which Is Super Badass and Epic? the Stick Betwix Your Ass Is Quite Large! I Implore You to Expererience the Stunning Light That the Hit American Animated Television Show “Family Guy”…
ebf503 No.16528779
Thank you /v/ for waking me up to how much of a hack Kojima is, I didn't grow up with the MGS series so I never paid attention to him or the things he did but I did end up being interested in MGS after playing the first one on an emulator and found myself wanting more.
Hearing how he's plagiarizing again, and Lain of all things, his virtue signaling ass is being placed right in the trash bin where it belongs.
cfbd51 No.16528793
>>16528779
Haha Yes My Friend, These Kojimacucks Don't Understand the Disgusting Bigotry and Unepic Douchebaggery Kojima Nazicucks Don't Even Know Themselves! I Implore You to Invest Time into the Hit Animated American Comedy Television Show "Family Guy". All of Kojimanazi's Work Can Be Traced Back to Family Guy, and These Facist Fucks Dont Even Know It! It Truly Looks like Its the End of These Assholes for sure…
0fcc19 No.16528815
I don't think OP is accurate. Kojima is not actually intelligent enough to be metaphorical in the way good movies or books are. He just comes up with a bunch of setpieces he thinks would be cool and then bullshits a story to link them together into one plot without thinking too hard about it. When you try to justify the bizarre shit in his games with metaphors and analogies, you're like those obnoxious drunk highschool literature teachers who grasp at straws and find deeper meaning in bits of dialogue that were clearly meant to be taken at face value when the author wrote them. Kojima has no grand consistent vision beyond "you know what would be cool?"
f69654 No.16528854
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>>16527061
>Rush
>GUP
Good taste my nigger
af9b03 No.16529137
>>16528661
I'm talking about the weirdo monster enemies, not the human characters.
5723f2 No.16529155
>>16525639
I was going to ask what was wrong with being 'afraid' of the disgusting ugly niggerish mess that is American politics right now, but then I read the articlce and it turned out Kojimbo is a lefty fag boy. God dammit
702f1e No.16529170
Reconnection would actually be a great thing for us. It means all of the censorship and deplatforming stops happening, and they actually let us speak
ad6d56 No.16529264
>>16528657
Also Asian women. Don't forget those.
fa7b55 No.16529297
>>16525651
I have this crazy idea: what if, instead of failed/never-tried film and TV people who feel like they're "settling", video games were made by people who like video games?
d5f5dd No.16529619
>>16527797
>Death Stranding is a retread of Lain
>Lain was directed by Konaka
>Who also did Tamers
Is this the ruse cruise I’ve heard so much about?
42ced1 No.16529637
>>16529170
Reconnection is just a euphemism for open borders.
859d62 No.16529671
>>16528854
Permanent Waves is my favourite, but Grace Under Pressure is also fantastic.
5fa10d No.16529709
>>16529297
>The amount of fucking truth in that image.
af9b03 No.16529911
>>16529853
Probably some point between 1930-1950
dc3abc No.16529975
dc3abc No.16529981
>>16525949
20% that are willing to admit it in a government study in an era where haying such an opinion can lands you jobless if not in jail…
f96aba No.16530030
I'd like a modern Serial Experiment Lain game. We can certainly improve on the original Playstation game.
eecb3f No.16530043
Isn't that what Sarazanmai is about, but with the anime being more openly homosexual? Kojima really is a genius!
4d9472 No.16530084
>>16525746
Well shit. He's literally eastern George Lucas then, isn't he.
5c19ac No.16531807
>>16528815
But that is the point, why does he have to make any effort coming with something good when there is lot of people who will connect the imaginary dots and pretend it is something deep. He is intelligent enough to take full advantage of the position he is now where he can spend time with famous people while making a game most will claim as great regardless of how bland or silly it is.
cbb3b4 No.16532219
>>16525609
Who's writing the game?
Why was Mark in Life is Tumblr?
>>16528666
No Mr. Satan! >w> It is not my fault you don't belong on this website, anon-kun!
>>16528693
It's not my fault you don't belong on this website, anon-kun!
cbb3b4 No.16532221
cbb3b4 No.16532226
I miss old imageboards. ;_;
42ced1 No.16532250
>>16532221
>>16532219
>>16532226
We have IDs here you retarded spic.
ca3ecc No.16532457
>>16528593
BO and Mods are probably letting it all boil over until someone gets pissed and makes a hate thread.
Then they’ll use it as an excuse to ban criticism.
ca3ecc No.16532524
>>16530084
George Lucas didn’t deserve the hate he was given.
He was an Indie filmmaker who was completely detached from (((Hollywood)))
He had absolutely gargantuan success with Star Wars but kept control of it privately.
The criticisms leveled against the prequels were actually a guerrilla campaign to try and turn his fan base against him and bully him out of possession of his own IP.
And it actually worked, Since he sold it to the Mouse.
If you’d notice, a lot of the “internet nerd critics” that got famous for lampooning the prequels absolutely lapped up the Disney Star Wars films, at first.
Red-Letter-Media, Angry Joe, they all lapped up Jew Jew Abrams shit without a second thought.
Then they backtracked as soon as the public called the films shit.
They even lap up the fucking marvel movies as being “good fun”.
Even though they harassed Lucas for years about “too much CGI” and “poor dialogue”.
Even though the prequels used more practical effects than any marvel movie, and despite the prequels being 10+ years old they still have better CGI than the Marvel movies.
But no, it’s the Marvel movies that are good and Lucas who is the hack they say.
All these “nerds” who are “on your side” “critiquing” the bad movies are actually influencers who were payed to drag Lucas’s name through the mud because he was a Goy who got too successful.
42ced1 No.16532671
>>16532524
>Then they backtracked as soon as the public called the films shit
And even then it's only in a really backhanded and halfhearted sort of manner.
e2aa87 No.16532725
>>16532524
Prequals were shit, stay mad
7f91aa No.16532748
>>16532725
Oh really?
Explain how.
e2aa87 No.16532828
>>16532748
they had a poop joke
b1e329 No.16533885
>>16525687
>turns out to be garbage
Still be more fun than whatever garbage you play I bet.
1c9d24 No.16534221
>>16525639
It's almost like his own MGS2 shit fell out of his brain and he forgot how well it sums up the left.
Also nigga you live in a literal fucking xenophobic ethnostate which is wildly successful and safe enough to walk around drunk at 3 AM in. Fuck off.
421010 No.16534375
>>16534221
Having sensible immigration policies doesn't make it an ethnostate, 4chunger.
702f1e No.16534391
>>16534375
An underlying understanding that Japan belongs to the Japanese people does.
5eeb5b No.16534396
>>16534391
Japanese people LOVE foreigners and would gladly have half nigger children. The only reason they don't is because Japanese is too hard to learn so it's hard for outsiders and the Japanese to understand each other.
45ac19 No.16534397
e60e29 No.16534407
>>16534396
Its divisive. Their normal "fuck all dirty gaijins" behavior co-exists with "have to be nice to everyone in social community". Some japs prioritize one or the other, but the amount of right wingers is extraordinary there.
5eeb5b No.16534415
>>16534407
>the amount of right wingers is extraordinary there
No it isn't, it just looks like that because unlike in the west you won't be socially destroyed and metoo'd and have your career attacked by a witch hunting mob for having right wing opinions.
b95e47 No.16534422
lainposters are annoying faggots and I hope they all die
1048e3 No.16534581
>>16532725
>>16533654
always liked prequels. ep3 is the best star wars movie.
858828 No.16534598
>>16534396
Are you shitting me? Maybe in the trendy Tokyo mega shithole but the majority of Japan away from that has xenophobia. It's perfectly legal to deny allowing someone to rent one of your apartments since gaijin are retards and don't into tatami.
92b46a No.16534845
>>16534755
>Global criminal syndicate with Koreans in it
>Glorious
Shut the fuck up Luciano
f1794b No.16534850
>>16530084
more like Eastern JJ
ca7b0e No.16538061
2 stories, The Stick and Rope by Kobo Abe
f1c1a5 No.16538106
>>16534755
This is why nobody likes torbots.
5cd36a No.16538157
>>16532524
The Prequels were shit but at least they were honest shit that tried not to be shit but failed.
The Jewquels on the other hand are shit to a degree even Indians find disgusting.
fb89eb No.16538284
>>16534396
They love white foreigners, never niggers. They also like Brazil but whenever they portray a Brazilian it's more Jetstream Sam than HUEHUEHUE, so I guess that's a leftover from the time Brazil was mostly white.
42ced1 No.16538290
>>16538284
It's a leftover from when they were best buds with Portugal.
ed5966 No.16538302
>>16538157
>Chinese Audiences declared nu-wars "an insult to our intelligence; why would gwailo make movies with ugly people (niggers and rey in main roles)
ed5966 No.16538322
>>16538318
>against jews
>while doing emulating jews to the letter.
a0989c No.16538342
>the rope mechanic was actually around your neck the whole time
af9b03 No.16540650
Judging from Kojima's Twitter I think he actually wants to fuck Mads Mikkelsen.
4d8865 No.16540660
>>16527465
>implying I can be hacked
I don't use Windows. Everyone knows only Windows gets viruses. :^)
Incidentally I do computer/virus clean-up for retards who believe that. I don't care what stupid shit they think as long as they pay me.
2d5e6b No.16541562
>>16525609
The game is really just a low budget Natsuiro Highschool.
c5fe84 No.16541583
>>16525609
MGS2 had a very Lain-esque vibe to it and similar themes, and I have no doubt it was a big influence on Kojima's work afterward.
fe99cd No.16541764
>>16528546
>Don't be mean! >w< It's not my fault I get turned off by something because it's getting popular with pseudo-otaku!
Oh just go fuck yourself, contrarian retard. Especially if you think everyone else enjoys fucking themself; then go double fuck yourself.
33bd80 No.16541790
>>16528450
>somewhat recently got popular
Do you mean "suddenly trending again" popular, or "Normalfags have latched onto it" popular. Either way what's the reason?
Jewtube recommended me a video about someone exploring the Wired Sounds site and I had gotten a little worried
1a09e6 No.16543312
>>16525746
>muh Tomokazu Fukushima!
Why people keep trudging out this baseless shit. I know, it's because faggots need a simply tied in a bow reason as to why a game series they used to like isn't as good/enjoyable for them anymore.
Fukushima wrote CODEC shit mainly. Years ago when MSG2 was just releasing (back before you morons started trying to spin this narrative) it was already stated Kojima writes almost everything in the story himself.
Why were MGS4 and MGS5 a noticeable dip in quality? (Although MGS was never known for it's amazing story anyway, it was always cringey rubbish) Because in MGS4 Kojima tried to tie up all the loose ends from the entire series in one game so he could move on. Of course that's going to cause narrative issues, you're no longer trying to right a cohesive story, rather going through a check list of what you need to basically give fan-service to. And MGS5 had a well documented development hell with significant cut content.
Regardless of any of that though, writers have peaks and troughs. Even the greats like shakespeare wrote some utter shite, and Kojima is no shakespeare.
Snatcher and Policenauts are easily the two best games story wise that Kojima has been involved in. And he wrote them both by himself without Fukushima in sight. If he is such a fraud and totally reliant on Fukushima how would that have happened?
Again faggots that spew this rubbish and just brainlets that can't accept that questions often have complex answers. Why were MGS4 and MGS5 not as good storywise as the rest of the series? For a multitude of reasons. But no, they want a simple answer.
>Because this super amazing writer called Fukushima left and anything he writes is always amazing and Kojima is shit!
42ced1 No.16543317
>>16543312
This is just pathetic, seriously.
419c09 No.16543363
The footage from the release date trailer looks EXTREMELY similar to MGS survive, I played that shit and 100%'d it and death stranding doesnt look much different, same shitty 3rd person combat and running around collecting shit
1a09e6 No.16543390
>>16543317
Excellent rebuttal, faggot.
The only thing pathetic is the cringey Kojima hate. People go on about "Kojimadrones" or whatever, but they pale in comparison to the retards that just pile in with
>HE'S A HACK
When ever Kojima is even mentioned. Is Kojima an amazing writer? Fuck no. In my opinion he's not written anything brilliant since the aforementioned Snatcher and Policenauts. The entire MGS series has decent overall at best, each entry had some peaks but also some lows, so that evens out to decent. No video game developer is a good writer, else they wouldn't be video game developers.
But to the faggots that actually liked stuff like MGS2 and decry what happened in MSG4 and 5, the idea that Kojima is some massive fraud all along and Fukushima is some master writer is just utter nonsense cooked try hard hipsters who'd say crazy shit like "Tolken was a hack, it was his little known nurse that was the real creative force behind his work". Contrarians that consistently need to go against the popular narrative, regardless of how grounded in facts they are.
>>16543363
Well Survive is "EXTREMELY" similar to MGS5 to the extent where is basically DLC for MSG5. The issue was never with the mechanical gameplay elements of Survive, it was the contextual use of them which was grindy, repetitive, unrewarding and just long and tedious.
419c09 No.16543416
>>16543390
MGSV isnt similar to survive at all except for the reuse of assets, it plays entirely different and the issues are that the core gameplay mechanics of survive are shit you could only play in a specific way with specific equipment or else you wouldnt be able to get an S rank or even finish the drill digging. Death stranding on the other hand looks and feels just like survive, that shitty, floaty melee combat, terrible shooting sections, foggy mists and gas masks, that one large mysterious creature that travels slowly throughout the mist, the random array of diverse characters that appear out of thin air, collecting resources and generally walking around emptyness. it has all the core elements that make survive, survive
702f1e No.16543418
>>16543390
I would argue that while Kojima isn't necessarily a great writer, he is a good director. He has an eye for visuals, he knows how to pick the right music, he can make a scene hit the right emotional notes, even when the things happening in the scene are utterly absurd if you take a step back.
42ced1 No.16543425
>>16543312
This is just pathetic, seriously. >>16543418
>He has an eye for visuals, he knows how to pick the right music, he can make a scene hit the right emotional notes
He hasn't been good at any of that for over a decade.
55028f No.16543432
>>16538284
Do japs even really have a problem with Hispanics. Only time i ever heard one talk about them it was "i don't know about them" in the middle of bitching about niggers and other asians.
>>16543312
I'd argue the lack of console limitations is part of why MGS 4 sucks. The size of the cutscenes and voice acting are massive and MGR proved his team can't make a metal gear game for shit without him, so the sheer size and the lack of a 2nd writer to lighten the load probably just wore the guy thin. Also MGS5 isn't even a finished game so that probably has something to do with it.
702f1e No.16543434
>>16543425
Death Stranding looks great, visually. The look of the technology and shit is always really cool in Kojima games. Are we too far along on the hate bandwagon to admit even that now?
27116f No.16543442
>>16541562
kojimbo exposed! BTFO!
419c09 No.16543453
>>16543418
>he is a good director.
He literally steals content from various media, slaps a sticker on it, then passes it off as his own, ofcourse you're gonna have good visuals when you copy some of the best movie directors out there, MGS is just escape from new york: the game where you as an ex special forces goy with medals and shit get brought out of retirement from within isolation to stop some deadly mass killing weapon, with that colonel from rambo helping you out along the way of killing degenerates, terrorists and yourself, all before getting betrayed by the gubbermint again so you go rogue, only to later help then get sorta betrayed by the goverment and shut down a massive part of their communications system setting their plans back a few hundred years by nuking nanomachines and the patriots, or was it just GW? I cant remember but the microwave crawling was kino and the final boss was ludo
702f1e No.16543484
>>16543453
All creative people rip people off, and you're talking about the plot of the game, not the visuals. Show me where these were in Escape from New York.
419c09 No.16543525
>>16543484
are you saying snake doesnt look like snake plissken? or that the colonel isnt an exact copy of this guy from rambo, or that almost everything (visually and otherwise) in the games arent a direct copy from some other popular thing kojima saw?
>all creative people ripp off
no, they steal
>uhh show me where this generic male body but its actually a suit and a generic mech appear in EFNY
you REALLY had to pick the two most generic things that you know werent based of escape from new york for that , didnt you?
most of the visuals and story are ripped from other media in every kojima shit game, remember how they had to remove all the original portraits from MG and MG2 because they were literally just pixelated screenshots of actors from different movies? even the boxart was Kyle Reese from the terminator with a slight color change
b6dd3f No.16543535
>>16525744
thingsthatdidnthappen.post
702f1e No.16543536
>>16543525
Look nigger, it doesn't matter. Ripping something off effectively is a skill in itself. There are a lot of bad Escape From New York rip-offs out there. It's not just insert tab A into slot B.
4daa74 No.16543539
>>16543536
>show me what he stole visually
>here's some examples
>UH IT DOESN'T MATTER
42ced1 No.16543540
>>16543535
Was the IP hop really necessary?
52fa98 No.16543554
>>16543539
Ok, that is pretty amazing art of eddy, the perfect bully waifu.
1a09e6 No.16543558
>>16543416
>MGSV isnt similar to survive at all except for the reuse of assets
The movement, shooting, melee etc.. is all ripped straight from MGS5. Feels exactly the same. That's what I mean when I'm saying gameplay mechanics.
>the issues are that the core gameplay mechanics of survive are shit you could only play in a specific way with specific equipment or else you wouldnt be able to get an S rank or even finish the drill digging.
Which is exactly what I meant when I said it's the context in which these mechanics are used (or not used in this case) that make Survive shit. So we're not really in disagreement.
>>16543434
Don't bother. Freaks on here are incapable of rational thought. Like I said they need so square everything away into
>X IS GOOD
>Y IS BAD
Thinking that they simply refuse to ever deviate from since they've shaped their entire lives around it and even giving and inch would cause their entire world view to collapse on itself.
419c09 No.16543567
>>16543535
>thingsthatdidnthappen.post
>.post
>>16543536
>ripping something off is a skill!!!!
except it isnt skillfull at all
>there are alot of bad escape from new york ripoffs
and MGS is one of them MGS1+2 follow the new york films plot, whilst MGS4 takes the plot from escape from NY, when your most famous work and main character is just kurt russle and a ripoff of john carpenter (and various other american films) then you cant call kojima anything other than a fraud or hack, he didnt invent most shit that appears in his games, he's the idea guy that tells the crew "wouldnt it be cool if we put X in the game just like in that one movie?" he even admits himself that MGS3 is an attempt at a james bond style game, steals alot of shit from various spy media and people eat that shit up
702f1e No.16543568
>>16543539
I never asked that. Also you didn't provide an example for what Grey Fox and Metal Gear Rey are based on, but it's basically irrelevant. Someone else doing something first is doesn't really mean anything in art. The question is who did it well. Alien and Terminator are cookie cutter slasher films done well. Star Wars is Flash Gordon with elements stolen from various Samurai, Western, and WW2 films. Escape From New York itself was inspired by Death Wish,
702f1e No.16543575
>>16543567
>Deus Ex
Literally just an amalgamation of cyberpunk novels, and conspiracy theories the developers pilfered from internet message boards.
1a09e6 No.16543577
>>16543567
>he even admits himself
You just said he admits this shit openly. So what the problem? He's not trying to deceive anyone and open states what he's doing. It's pretty rational for people to like themes, ideas, imagery etc.. from a certain film or TV show they love and are excited to see it show up in other mediums ie like games. So what's the problem?
52fa98 No.16543595
>>16543585
That's actually really cute
42ced1 No.16543611
>>16543585
>on a special episode of Spongebob, Patrick gets a little too into the speedrunning scene
5cd36a No.16543613
>>16543373
If Hideous Konjimbo, Todd Howard, David Cage and Keiji Inafune got together to make a game on a 100 million dorrah budget what would it be like?
Will Kojima ever secretly buy a tiny Island in the Izu Archipelago and name it after himself?
Would he then host a get together with his fellow "game" devs in a western style mansion on said Island only to get assaulted by hostile memetic entities with no survivors?
42ced1 No.16543617
>>16543613
Remember that kickstarter game where you play as game developers that never got finished?
419c09 No.16543643
>>16543558
you are both completely wrong and havent played survive, the melee combat was made from the ground up since MGSV didnt have it, same with some of the movement options and shooting for the bow and arrow, it doesnt feel the exact same at all, its a totally different experience, in MGSV all you do is tranq and fulton, in MGSurive all you do is spam walls or explosives, very different in MGS where most of the time is spent sneaking around or using melee combat compared to MGSVs runnning around enemies that are blind deaf and dumb, fultoning them one by one.
>feel the same
>gameplay mechanics
in which way does stabbing a bunch of fags through a fence feel the same as running around an empty open world fultoning everything? you forget to mention the other shit that wasnt in MGSV like hunger and thirst with the whole stat boost thing, the customisation of your armor and weapons actually doing something other than just chaning appearance and the oxygen shit.
>muh context
your context doesnt matter, weather its stabbing a fence to get small amount of resources in a grind or its for some other objective, it still sucks stabbing people through a fence, the core gameplay is inherently boring, even when you do get around to explosives/fire you will still run out in a minute and you cant carry much extra stuff because of the shitty weight system
>So we're not really in disagreement.
this isnt an arguement, you are objectivley wrong in thinking that if you just took away the reward at the end of the game, suddenly the combat throughout gets better, tell me how spamming AOE melee attacks in a crowd and doing no damage would become improved if you took away the rewards you get at the end of the level.
>>16543575
>muh conspiracy theroies
CIA nigger propoganda tool to silence the white man
>>16543577
>he admits it therefore he is a good boy!!!
>whats the problem?
He's a pretentious hack that steals peoples work and claims it as his own, he did occasionally talk about movies that inspire him, but no redditor is going to care about what he said in some interview 10+ years ago, he has an army of pretentious ifaggots that make him out to be a god, he swindels companies out of millions so he can hang out with celebs, he popularised the movie game genre years before the last of us and all those other shit games did it, he wants to make his games appeal to everyone but people who play games, he wants to make games more like movies and most importantly he is a faild neverwasbeen movie director. when his new shit game comes out he will lose sony millions, dissapoint his fans and this time he cant just blame spending millions on joost feet and david bowie songs on konami
That and most people seem to forget that what he did with the whole MGSV TPP thing was the exact same shit he pulled in MGS2, you play as not snake, fighting not bosses from MGS1 in a story thats ripped straight from MGS1.
he does the same shit for most metal gear games with the reason being the S3 program
419c09 No.16543745
>>16543373
No, THIS is really cute!
1a09e6 No.16545146
>you are both completely wrong and havent played survive, the melee combat was made from the ground up since MGSV didnt have it
You're full of shit. The majority of the hand to hand melee combat his ripped straight from MGS5.
At 2:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQBB3pK-f5w
Look at the flurry of Jet Li type shit. It's close to identical as the shit at 0.29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmF634DBBbs
>in MGSV all you do is tranq and fulton, in MGSurive all you do is spam walls or explosives, very different in MGS where most of the time is spent sneaking around or using melee combat compared to MGSVs runnning around enemies that are blind deaf and dumb, fultoning them one by one.
Again you're talking about the CONTEXT in which these mechanics are applied. If you have 2 games the use the exact same shooting mechanics but in one of the games it encourages, outright requires the use of that shooting mechanic whilst in the other game you have zero opportunity to use it then it's still an objective fact the both games have the same mechanics but the minute to minute contextual gameplay between the two is different.
>in which way does stabbing a bunch of fags through a fence feel the same as running around an empty open world fultoning everything?
It doesn't, that's the fucking point I keep making.
>you forget to mention the other shit that wasnt in MGSV like hunger and thirst with the whole stat boost thing, the customisation of your armor and weapons actually doing something other than just chaning appearance and the oxygen shit.
Again, none of that is the core MECHANICS of the game. The movement, the shooting etc.. hunger and thirst are contextual gameplay elements that impact those core mechanics. Again which is another reason why Survive wasn't as enjoyable to play as MGS5.
>you are objectivley wrong in thinking that if you just took away the reward at the end of the game,
I am not talking about LITERAL rewards presented to the player. I mean in the sense that the experience feels unrewarding in that it doesn't provide the time you trade into it with fun experiences in exchange.
>He's a pretentious hack that steals peoples work and claims it as his own
Can you provide examples where he's directly, like for like, "stolen" other peoples work and claimed it was his own?
>but no redditor is going to care about what he said in some interview 10+ years ago
If you look at his twitter timeline from a few days/a week ago you'll he still directly shows the moments from his release date trailer that he ripped from films like apocalypse now.
As for the rest of your post, can you actually critique his games/Kojima without using tried buzzwords/memes and raging at people who like his games because you don't like them.
>redditor
>army of pretentious ifaggots
>he swindels companies out of millions so he can hang out with celebs
>he is a faild neverwasbeen movie director.
> when his new shit game comes out he will lose sony millions
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6aa7a3 No.16545292
>>16543416
> play in a specific way with specific equipment or else you wouldn't be able to get an S rank or even finish the drill digging.
Maybe if you're fucking retarded. or play on extreme and picked weapons with elemental modifier the daily wanderers are immune to but that falls within boundaries of "fucking retarded"
e9064d No.16545356
I want to get out this fucking elephant in the room.
Do you believe?
Do you believe Kojima actually created a brand new genre of video game?
I don't, but some do.
6aa7a3 No.16545363
>>16545356
Generic TPP with dark souls invasions.
Truly a maestro.
8c3a5a No.16545364
3ab37f No.16545409
>>16545356
Truly, the greatest videogame producer to ever lived.
617c33 No.16545417
>>16545356
>absolute madman actually invents a whole new genre
Based Kojigod at it again.
2166d6 No.16545432
>>16545409
Right up there with Todd "Godd" Howard. :^|
76358a No.16545439
>>16543312
But the codecs are not only the majority of the dialogue in the first 3 games, in 1 and 2 especially many of the most important and profound moments are very much in the codecs. For some reason my memories of 3 are a bit shady, so I guess I won't mention it. The codes are too massive part of the games to say they don't matter, even if Kojima did indeed wrote every other word in the game himself, which would be doubtful. This is not an uncommon practice, the "idea guy" just creates the general story and the main points of the plot and that is connected by someone else or even a collection of people that have to write every line and how things actually get to main plot points, but also even how these plot points end up playing out. So these people are super important to the final result.
When you have only the idea guy left, who can't write to save his life, you end up with "unfinished" shite like V. It is not that Kojima couldn't do some meaningful conclusion with the time he was presented with. He is just couldn't. He doesn't have the skills to achieve his narrative goals. So he only ends up missmanaging the project to such an extend that he got for a reason the finger from Konami for being such the time waster he is when he is writing by himself. V was Kojima's FFXV. If it wasn't for Konami it would have taken even longer for it to come out and it might have been even worse. That's why his name is all over V more than any other game before that. He wanted us to know he is completely responsible for it, that this his magnum opus, but he couldn't bring his vision of the story in any coherent way other than a few good "cinematic" scenes here and there. The reason V probably has so much less cut scenes compared to the previous games is that he just didn't manage to write even that by himself. It is likely he wasted so much time thinking what to do that when he was forced to finish he just didn't have the time to even do the stupid shit he would have done if he had more time. He just had to make semi-coherent connection between the already done missions and release the product. So even his cinematic long cut scenes end being a dumb talk in a jeep.
419c09 No.16545520
>>16545356
>ITS A NEW GENRE
<no stealth or action
So a walking game?
>>16545439
I never got why people shit on long cutscenes in MGS4 when in other games codecs + their shorter cutscenes amounted to the same non-gameplay segments. MGS4 only has a few hours of gameplay, but so does every other MGS, it has hours of cutscenes and little codecs that waste more hours than gameplay time, but every other MGS has the same amount of downtime with their codec+cutscenes.
And I never got why people didnt shit on MGSV more for having shitty cutscenes like that silent jeep ride and all the shit thats happening in the game regulated to tapes you have to listen to.
42ced1 No.16545528
>>16545520
2 reasons. 1, the cutscenes in 4 are really fucking boring and 2 the only people who pretend to like 5 are post 2011 let's play watching spics. Actual fans gave up before it was even announced.
e0125e No.16545534
>>16545356
The first Third Person Massively Multiplayer Online Visual Novel ever created
76358a No.16545627
>>16545520
The codes are not the same as the cutscenes. While they might have less production value, in reality it just means less Hideo "I wanted to be a movie director" Kojima faggotry, often way more enjoyable than any fun cutscenes. It is actually also in the codecs where you will get most characterization, aka good writing. Sure, admittedly a few times we can say the codecs are sort of the de facto cutscenes, but codec cutscenes actually have unique and interesting elements about them that generic cinematic shit doesn't. Codecs didn't feel tedious. They were always fun to do. Cutscenes? Oh wow, let me watch Ocelot flip around his revolvers yet again. It is not like the cutscenes are universally bad, but if we are actually going to compare them to the codecs, they lose.
419c09 No.16545781
>>16545627
>codecs are not the same as cutscenes
I didnt say they were, Im just saying if you add codec time to the time of the total amount of cutscenes for MGS 1-3, you'd probably get similar times to the cutscene total of MGS4. I wonder how much hours each games full codec lasts for.
21b0ab No.16545857
Kojima's worldview is entirely constructed. This was obvious as far back as in Snatcher which cannibalized numerous Western stories to create a semi-interactive tale. He makes games to influence people, yet his ideas are all derived from someone else's media creations. This is what makes him "Hollywood" more than any penchant for cinematic style.
5cd36a No.16545986
>>16545534
>MMOVN
How would that even work?
Would one have to play shitty coop minigames to unlock certain routes?
e9dd34 No.16546120
>>16545627
>but if we are actually going to compare them to the codecs, they lose.
Fuck no, only a very small handful of codecs in MGS2 is actually enjoyable and almost none of them was good characterization.
1a09e6 No.16546458
>>16545439
Fukushima did not write all the codec segments by himself. Fukushima didn't write "all" of anything. That's just the only part he mainly helped with. It's pretty rational since it's not possible for Kojima to oversee the gameplay development, write and direct all the cutscenes and write all the codec lines. It's irrelevant anyway since the VAST majority of people that complain about MGS4 and 5 don't complain because of the lack of codec dialogue, the complain about the story contained within the cutscenes and directly decry that as a dip in quality from the previous games.
>even if Kojima did indeed wrote every other word in the game himself, which would be doubtful. This is not an uncommon practice, the "idea guy" just creates the general story and the main points of the plot and that is connected by someone else or even a collection of people that have to write every line and how things actually get to main plot points
I don't believe that Kojima wrote every single line of every single games he's ever developed and never ever sought the input of anyone else ever. That's not even remotely possible. Of course they have big round table meetings were the team gets together and they discuss elements of the story, dialogue etc.. That happens in all mediums. Just like in TV with GoT you have benioff and weiss consistently credited as the writers as if they're the only two the contribute to the screenplay adaptions for the show but it's actually a whole group of people working with them. But it's them that have the final say and it's them that drive the creative process and vision. It's the same with Kojima and it's been the same for ALL his games, from MGS 1-3 all the way to 4 and 5 which people hated.
>When you have only the idea guy left, who can't write to save his life, you end up with "unfinished" shite like V.
Again this is pure BS. Like I said with ALL MGS games Kojima has a TEAM around him. Acting like he worked all by himself and that's why V was shite is just a retarded reason that brainlets needs to make up to fit everything into neat little black and white boxes when the reasons are far more complex.
>who can't write to save his life
>He doesn't have the skills to achieve his narrative goals
More BS because as I've stated before the 2 best games story wise that Kojima has been involved in, Snatcher and Policenauts, we written in 88 and 94 respectively when video game development teams would have been MUCH smaller, especially the story related teams involved in them, and so Kojima would have had to have done the vast majority (if not all) of the writing himself. And God Emperor Fukushima was completely absent from the development of both those games so what's the simplistic brainlet reason as to why they were well written?
1a09e6 No.16546459
>>16545439
>So he only ends up missmanaging the project to such an extend that he got for a reason the finger from Konami
This is that brainlet "black and white" reason I'm talking about where it has to be only one of Kojima or Konami that's in the wrong. It was a combination of both. As with MGS4, the entire lore within the MGS universe just became so big that it's impossible to give fan service to everything so when you start going down a checklist of what you need to include to please everyone it just becomes messy. And while this is an error on Kojima's part is partially compounded by the fan expectation surrounding the game. Every on /v/ had already hyped themselves up about the story THEY wanted to see and convinced themselves that X, Y and Z were all going to be included. It's impossible to meet that level of expectation and when you try and please as many people as possible you end up pleasing very few. On Konami's part it was clearly they were starting to move away from video games as a major aspect of their business model and the game suffered as a result since against Kojima and the development teams wishes they pushed to release a partially finished game so they could basically be done with that part of their business.
>The reason V probably has so much less cut scenes compared to the previous games is that he just didn't manage to write even that by himself.
The reason V has so little cutscenes is because EVERYONE bitched and moaned about MGS4 when in reality more or less that level of story to gameplay ratio was present in all his previous games in some form. So when that always been your natural instinct and then you're forced to check it over course is going to end up looking jarring in comparison to his other games. That's the point.
>It is likely he wasted so much time thinking what to do
This notion that any video game developer "wastes" time is simply not accurate. Games and delayed or incomplete more often than scope of the project is beyond that development capabilities of the team to complete within that time frame. Budgets and schedules often overestimate how capable a workforce they have, but it's not down to a lack of work effort from the employees, rather a lack of ability in relation the the two restricting factors. Time and money.
>So even his cinematic long cut scenes end being a dumb talk in a jeep.
Again like I said this was intentional because everyone REEEEd about the cutscenes in MGS4 so he adopted a GTA style approach which I've never heard anyone complain about despite it always being shit. But when Kojima did it that's when people pointed it out.
1a09e6 No.16546484
>>16545627
The ratio of good to back cutscenes in MGS1-3 is far higher than the ratio of good to back codecs. As someone already mentioned the codecs in MGS2 were a fucking mess and even the ending ones which are the only remotely memorable ones in the games are remembered because of how bizarre they were.
>Codecs didn't feel tedious
Lol.
35de49 No.16546491
>>16545356
>it's a new genre that fits MY story in MY setting of MY game
Kojima is so drunk on "power" that forgets his stupid genre won't fit on any other game.
e9064d No.16546585
Why not a lot of people talk about the fact that Death Stranding is always online or at least requires online to do most of the "strand game" stuff? You will probably have really bad time offline trying to play just for the story. Kinda like playing dark souls without seeing all the player hints at secrets.
23441e No.16546625
>>16546459
>>16546484
>>16546458
fuck anon, you sounds rational and your full post should be cap to keep hateboner on kojima BTFO
9a0aac No.16548519
>>16545520
>So a walking game?
It says action right there, you blind nigger. Kojimbo is a hack but there's no need to make shit up.
419c09 No.16548691
>>16548519
>It says action right there
Clearly says strand game
a988c9 No.16548776
>>16545356
>social strand system
Will it be like Persona's social links?
419c09 No.16548778
>>16548776
no, it'll be like nanomachines where everything is connected to some super computer AI that tracks everything
a279be No.16548779
>>16548776
Not at all. It's just Kojima jerking himself off.
42ced1 No.16548792
>>16545986
>>16545534
It's Mario Party except you want to fuck afterwards instead of killing each other.
a988c9 No.16548912
>>16545986
you date other players online. Endgame is meeting IRL and fucking for large amounts of ingame currency as a reward. Current meta is multiplying your gains through gangbangs
a988c9 No.16548946
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>>16543535
embed is the live action fan trailer they made for death stranding. It was rated as the best video of the whole con. Go on and tell me I am making it up, you fucking faggot.
d12cd1 No.16549300
It's nice to see that Kojima loves his husband.
419c09 No.16549352
>>16549300
>reedus got cucked by mads
c08559 No.16549367
>>16549300
why is he talking about mads so sexually
c8c874 No.16549426
>>16549367
Its the only way a male can make it in Hollywood.
419c09 No.16549439
>>16549426
Imagine being an aspiring actor and getting raped by kojima of all people.
Reminder that hayter got bummed by a kike
1936f3 No.16549943
Literally 90% of media was plagiarized off of something. Terminator was just plagiarized from some old bastard's book. Lion King was a western copy-paste of a Japanese story that was just Hamlet with animals.
20679f No.16551204
>>16545857
Snatcher was a decent ride but it's "message" always seemed weird to me, like, The mesage of trust does not follow from the events that happen and it comes out of left field.
>>16525746
Fukushima wrote Ghost Babel and it was generic garbage, go away.
9a0aac No.16551359
Does anyone here have the pictures of the interview with the MGS2 main translator, where she calls Kojimbo a talentless hack who can't write for shit?
000000 No.16552120
>>16549439
>I've told the story humorously for years.
>these incidents as the price of doing business in this strange, fucked-up
>The producer and I laughed off the Beverly Hills encounter without too much trauma.
>a sleazy kike tried to pozz my neg hole but it's OK, we'll laugh about it someday
>I would've loved to have been involved in any one of Big Boy Harvey's pictures
>But I knew the man was a monster from the moment I met him.
I really hope Hayter got torn to fucking shreds in the comments on that post. He flat out fucking admits that he knew and knows all the fucked-up shit that's going on in Kikewood, yet deflects it with "it's just how business is done and you need to watch yourself". Hell, now I wouldn't be surprised if he knows about the pedo shit there too but kept his mouth shut on that one. All actors and actresses in Hollywood and otherwise are whores and pedos. No exceptions. The entire artistic industry is pozzed. Hell, my grandmother was an opera singer and she fucking hated it, saying that it was full of the most degenerate filth on Earth. I used to think she was just a crazy old bitch, now I realize she was right on the money.
0aa056 No.16553605
Damn this is one of the biggest circlejerks I've ever seen on /v/. There's not even any clever jokes or snarky comments, just 400 posts saying the same thing and sucking each other off "DAE too smart, jaded, and experienced to enjoy anything and assume that everything ever will always suck?"
A broken clock is right twice a day, but at least the clock has the decency not to touch itself in front of everyone when its time comes.
42ced1 No.16553619
>>16553605
You really decided to bump this week old thread just to bitch not everyone is falling for an obviously terrible looking game?
0aa056 No.16553663
>>16553619
You really decided to entirely misinterpret my post and bitch about "necro" like some faggot namefag?
017f7d No.16553716
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>>16553246
I love the MGS 1 soundtrack!! Like Ohmeygawd!!
f69654 No.16554161