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>fucked up the embed

I deserve to be bullied.

Also, are there any lewd wads that aren't h-doom?

>which vanilla episode is your favorite?

mumbo jumbo

>which is your favorite gun

the super mumbo jumbo

>favorite enemy

mumbo jumbos

>level

level mumbo jumbo

>OST

mumbo jumbo

>What wads are you playing

mumbo jumbo, mumbo jumbo 2,& the revenge of mumbo jumbo

Any other WADs like Psychic? I love the concept of combining DOOM with super powers, but I'd like to see something less edgy.

Doom is gay maze shit. Overated as hell.

>>16515783

Superpowers as in spells? If so, have you considered the one where you're playing a baron, Hearts of Demons? You got spells and you have a gun that shoots spells too(or maybe I'm confusing it with guncaster).

>finished Doom 3

Should I bother with Resurrection of Evil and Lost Mission or should I just uninstall right now?

How's Sigil for the people that paid for it?

Heard it's meh, but Romero is defending his design decisions as being from how a WAD would be made for Doom 1 20 years ago.

>>16515793

How the fuck is Doom a boomer game? Boomers were in their 40's back then, i doubt they played a lot of games, especially Doom.

>>16516675

Resurrection of Evil is generally better than vanilla 3.

>Lost Mission

>playing the fucking BFG edition

Anon why?

>>16515674

Go play Void and Rainbow

>>16516681

I didn't but most people who've played it so far, have been saying it's pretty mediocre.

>>16516697

That's retarded, boomers have and always will be those born from the baby boom. Even that boomer pic you've got looks like he's in his fifties at the youngest.

Is SIGIL any good?

>>16516714

It's a cuckchan meme, use it to easily spot anyone that doesn't belong here

>>16516738

Has it been released for free yet? From what I've seen it looks pretty nice but the levels themselves don't seem to be anything special. Although to its credit, seeing as how it's actually made by Romero, it looks like something that would've been made in the 90's.

>>16516755

Free release is on the 31st.

>>16516687

because the BFG edition is the only version of Doom 3 I have, don't know anything about it really, it was in my backlog along with like Blood Dragon, FEAR 2 and Half Life 2

>>16516770

BFG edition is incompatible with mods for the original, was edited to be easier, arguably looks worse, and Lost Mission is nothing special. I really hope you didn't pay for it.

You did, didn't you?

>>16516770

you can still play doom 3 on ganoo+loonix and likewise meme systems

>>16516765

Cool. I hope somebody releases those Buckethead tracks somewhere, no way in hell I'm paying for this shit.

>>16516790

I did, how much I can't remember, doubt it was in a bundle at some point. I played the standard game on Veteran and everything that wasn't a Hell Knight and maybe a Mancubus (how much are there in the game? 3 or 4?) was kind of a joke, how easier was it outside of the using the flashlight at any time since there are at least two sections that seem to depend on that?

>>16516814

Easy mode has more health and armor pickups (because it wasn't easy enough, apparently), ammo pickups have been increased in general, many enemy encounters were removed, and armor no longer slowly decays when greater than 100.

There's a lot of really dumb changes, too, like many of the advanced PC options being removed, the fov being lowered, there being a limited number of save slots, and unskippable cutscenes.

>>16516702

I will, after I'm done with Final Doomer. Thanks.

>>16516755

>>16516681

That sounds unfortunate but I guess it's logical considering Romero hasn't done much since the E1M8 remake.

>>16516738

The one thing I've heard about it that's not "new Romero woooo" is that it's buggy as fuck.

>>16515813

Yeah in HoDB you can imbue magic into some weapons on top of more traditional spellcasting. It's a ridiculous mod, but also immensely satisfying to play. There's an alpha release of one where you play as a Revenant too.

>>16516946

>alpha release of one where you play as a revenant too

Is there a dedicated skeleton shriek button?

Also this might kill my own thread, but Hedon sucked. I can appreciate the level of detail put into levels but that style of gameplay simply does not fit Doom.

>no link for Sigil

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1p1d3vwsms423k7/sigil-registered-version.zip

>>16516965

>redditdoom

>>16516953

does it suck orc/demon futa dick though?

>>16517003

I hadn't gotten far enough to meet any of the futas.

Then that thread was made earlier this month and I realized you were playing as the futa all along.

>>16516953

Sadly not, at least not yet. Not enough punching action yet either, though you get a halberd/shotgun that can be used independently of the shoulder cannons. Despite the alpha status it's playable and pretty promising.

>>16515783

The Guncaster might fit the bill perfectly - depending on what exactly you mean by edgy.

>>16517033

Would you like to talk about AMC TC Episode 3?

Is it any good?

>>16517083

I've been killed by doors alot in Dook but never did I get an unexpected death in Blood, what happened there?

>>16517086

I have no idea either. I can only assume that space between curtain and bed where I landed was narrow enough for Build to go "hey buddy, you're getting crushed over here!" and instantly kill player.

>>16517086

That was one thing that bothered me with Duke3D. Noclipping often results in you dying to crushing damage. Similarly setting Duke's movement speed too high can let him clip through walls to the same effect.

>>16517149

The video embed was fucked up.

>>16517149

The embed was fucked so I reported the OP asking for a fix.

>>16516681

>how a WAD would be made for Doom 1 20 years ago

a WAD made 20 years ago would have more fucking rockets in it

>TNT Final Doomer's melee is a three hit combo that ends in an uppercut

>the uppercut launches enemies a good deal away from you

God this is so fucking fun.

>>16517182

DoomRL Arsenal also does that, from your description one probably copied the other. Also try Abort some time. Reload triggers a boring-ass kick, but when under the effect of Berserk it becomes legendary and you can dragon kick enemies into the milky way, quite literally. Smashing enemies with a floor tile works well too. What other mods do over the top melee, besides GMOTA and Demonsteele?

>>16517186

I really can't tell if TNT is just well designed or if Final Doomer was so well designed it makes TNT more fun by association.

>>16515674

>which vanilla episode is your favorite?

shores of hell

>which is your favorite gun

plasma gun and og shotgun

>favorite enemy

barons of hell

>level

e1m9

>OST(Sign of Evil)

hiding the secrets

>What wads are you playing

I've been playing nerve.wad, it's pretty good, what do you guys think of it?

>>16516770

get the retail release on archive.org or similars and check pcgw for any fixes

>Stronghold

Holy fuck what a level. I think I'm starting to understand why I enjoy TNT over Plutonia.

Plutonia is basically a slaughterwad, it spams revenants and archviles and cyberdemons at you in large areas with lots of cells and rockets so you can go wild with the BFG while circlestrafing, and that's pretty much the one note plutonia has going for it. Every level has at least two archviles, two dozen revenants and a chaingun trap. And it just gets boring after a while, with a lot of levels feeling like you should have quicksaved to not get torn up when the walls opened with 6 chaingunners on both sides or when you got teleported into an area with 4 archviles on all four sides while a Cyberdemon is beneath you. It just doesn't have much restraint.

TNT's design is on the other end. It relies on tight corridors and rooms while you go up against imps, zombiemen and pinkies and tests your ability to go into a room, pick out all the hitscanners while using pinkies/specters and imps as meatshields to avoid damage. It so far reminds me of why I really enjoyed episode 1, but I feel the maps could be a bit larger(as in less corridors where imp fireballs are outright impossible to dodge). I thought the dual uzis that came with FD were just a shittier chaingun(in a way they are), but I'm coming around to the higher firerate and ammo magazines and I'm thinking that if they had the chaingun's accuracy I would just snipe shit from across the map to save myself the health instead of getting upclose and personal.

I REALLY hope TNT stays on this quality because contrasted with the last few days of boredom thanks to Plutonia's last 10 levels, these last two days have been an absolute blast with these TNT levels.

How are Ancient Aliens, Back to Saturn and JCP?

>>16515674

>it's another memekid plays doom thread

>muh rip and tear ebin memes

>muh mods because original is boring

>muh doomb slayer

This is all cancer. Doom had zero story, zero characterization and the entirety of this doomguy cult is early 2010s memes from kids who werent even born when the game came out.

Even as late as Doom 3, there was no trace of this trash meme.

>>16517323

Not that I disagree with you, but who exactly are you talking about?

>>16517197

I like Evilution overall. There aren't many stinkers in it (MAP08, MAP20, MAP24 stand out as the worst) and it also has my favourite music track in MAP06. Putting aside the bullshit enemy encounters I also like the Plutonia maps in terms of design, with a few exceptions.

>>16517371

Ignore him, he's a faggot. Doom had a map editing scene very shortly into its release, the Doom comic only a couple of years later, and a source port scene only a couple more.

https://www.doomworld.com/10years/doomcomic/

>>16516858

>armor no longer slowly decays when greater than 100

That's only in MP, armor in singleplayer maxes out at 125 and stays there. Nightmare has health decay to 25 gradually. Unless you mean they even changed the MP in BFG edition?

One thing I hate about BFG edition is they changed all the health sounds to just one sound, the soul cube sound. So all regular health pickups just sound weird now.

i wanna fuck the demons

>>16516697

I seriously hate cuckchan memes now.

So, should I pirate doom 4 or is it nothing like the first two?

>>16518822

Pirate it, it's the best Serious Sam game in years.

>>16518825

I'm not a serious fan of SS.

>>16518836

Well it's a better serious sam game than 3 was at least. Basically just arena fights with decent graphics and guns. Glory kills are a fucking meme though, worst mechanic in years, at least implementation wise.

>>16517083

If there's one thing Fresh Supply did right it is that doors no longer kill you

>>16515674

The MIDI soundtrack of SIGIL is pretty good

>>16518867

Sounds like something out of Descent if I'm being honest. Otherwise I really like it.

>>16518880

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wUt2bJtqhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tul__Eqd48

The likeness is striking. SC-55 music is underrated.

>>16518764

that's pretty gay anon

I've been thinking back on why I liked Heretic so much, but disliked Plutonia since they pretty much share similar level design beats. I've arrived at the conclusion that Heretic is a lot more lenient with ammo(considering that every enemy drops almost every ammo type, not just the first two) and with everyone being a projectile enemy with virtually no hitscan or undodgable attacks(you can make a case for the iron lich tornado which seems to exist solely to make E3M1's ending a pain in the ass). Otherwise I can't really think of what Heretic did right that I thought plutonia did wrong.

Speaking of which, are there any good Heretic based .wads?

>>16518992

Which brings me back to my question, are there any lewd wads that aren't h-doom?

>>16518974

I can see the resemblance but I enjoyed the other track more. I'm a big fan of those super sick adrenaline rush tracks build engine games have. Also I could have sworn I've heard those synths in Brigador.

WHO ELSE

/UAC MILITARY NIGHTMARE/

HERE, BOYS

Also I can't be the only one who disliked TNT's map 31. It felt pretty bad. Map 32 was great though.

Would TNT make for a good Hideous Destructor levelset?

>>16519022

what

>>16517103

I just started playing AMC, but the hell mission ran so bad I almost dropped it. Once a space reaches a certain size the engine really stops being able to handle it.

>>16517197

>>16517316

The rapid-fire weaponry of Final Doom really synergies well with TNT level design, where it's stuffed to the gills with low-level enemies. Stronghold is probably the standout map in that regard.

>ancient aliens

Pretty good, very hard. Episode 2 kinda drags a bit.

>BTS

It's got a great texture pack and solid level design, but it's kinda forgettable overall. Treated as the second coming of John by doomworld typed due to tranny nepotism.

>JHP

Some really unique and unusual level design, mostly great fun with a few gimmicky shitshows. Very different feel than your average doom mapset.

>>16517316

>AA

Can be kinda hit or miss, but has some really cool looking levels and memorable tracks. Pretty challenging. Had a few meh levels.

>BTS

First episode is pretty fucking solid. Cool soundtrack, texture pack and overall flow of gameplay in most of the levels. Second episode is a big letdown.

>JCP

Even more hit or miss. Gave me some good laughs and some of the levels are pretty good considering how little the japanese Doom community must be. Unfortunately, the worse levels are pretty unimpressive considering today's standards and it had a fair share of those.

>>16519254

Maybe it's only if your mod is posted to the ZDoom forums :^

>>16519022

Some bizarre nostalgia right there. That was the mod that made me first pick up editing tools so I could find out what the fuck the creator was thinking.

>>16519314

That's what I was getting at my dude, along with the jokes about how seemingly everyone at ZDF is a tranny or becomes one.

Anyone have a link to the original doom.wad?

What do you guys make of Eviternity? I'm on the third episode and it's already degenerating into slaughter bullshit. Plays nice for bfg spam I guess, but the run 'n' gun maps were spectacular.

Reminder a Doom-focused porn board exists

>>>/demonp/

It's gay though. I'm sure the BO won't mind if you make a hetero thread.

>>16519805

What slaughter maps? I stopped playing yesterday on map 16 and it was nothing but good shit.

Don't tell me maps 20 and above are Plutonia tier shitfests.

>>16519442

Am I gay or something? I don't find this as attractive as the disgustingly halfassed h-doom one where they just slapped a pair of tits on the cyberdemon and I think it's because the cyberdemon isn't some big musclegrill with giant tits.

>>16519028

I like MAP31 except for its stupid yellow key bug. Thankfully certain source ports auto-patch that even with the broken IWAD. Also Hideous Destructor's forum entry has a list of maps, but I assume you know that.

>>16519013

I can't really see a comparison between the two, except maybe the overuse of monster closets. Even then, as you pointed out, there are no hitscan enemies, no bullshit like Arch-Viles, and even the ones with homing projectiles are not such a problem since they don't do heavy damage or are easily avoided. Revenants can do almost a full health bar in a single hit if you roll bad.

>>16519530

Original meaning what? For most source ports you want the latest version of a given IWAD.

>>16520602

But heavy damage rolls exist in heretic and so does near 1 shot damage like the Minotaur's line attack. It's more or less that with Heretic resources are much more lenient. more health, more ammo, you have at least one tomb of power on you every level so you can clear out tougher rooms easier or get the ability to gloves of the necromancer+face chainsaw back your entire health if you no longer have any health.

Also I don't feel Archviles are bullshit, more or less the way they're used in Plutonia and Hell Revealed. I've never enjoyed treating doom like a musou and just sticking a shitton of enemies in front of you in an open area and practically telling you to "just BFG it dude". That's not fun in the slightest after you do it more than twice.

>>16520637

Oh and I should make the distinction that I don't like treating vanilla doom as a musou and I'm fine with certain weaponsets like ROK or dakka for that sort of thing.

>>16520637

High damage rolls exist in Heretic but they're commonly on slower and easier to avoid attacks. Nitrogolem skulls are pretty weak, and so are the tornadoes. Revenant missile damage range is 10-80. Also true about Arch-Viles.

>>16520869

I'm pretty sure undead warriors could bust out a 90 HP attack every now and then.

>>16520981

Assuming the wiki is right, they're not nearly that bad. Even their red axes are 7-56. Green are a pathetic 2-16. The risk with them is that they can, I think, fire through each other if the ghost variety which is always red, and you risk taking multiple at once. But even those are slow, and don't relentlessly chase you like Revenant missiles.

No wait shit you're right, I looked it up and the most they could do is 56 damage.

Maybe I'm confusing Heretic with Hexen's damage numbers?

I still maintain Archviles and revenants were great additions to the monster pool. The only really bad Doom monsters are Pain Elementals and Lost Souls

And Cyberdemons/Masterminds used as regular enemies.

>>16522053

>Cacowards

You mean those things you get if you suck enough dicks at Doomworld? Sure, Nihility is neat, but let's not pretend Cacowards mean much besides that something probably isn't total shit.

Wait let me get this straight, people PAID for Sigil, and the OST, that are supposed to come with the wad for free tomorrow?

>>16522121

more like Jewtubers who want to "review" the game Payed for the OTS to get the wad early because waiting for the free copy would hurt their bottom-line in the Joogle search algorithm.

>>16522053

The Cacowards can fuck off honestly.

>>16522069

>>16522170

How come? I don't follow them religiously but I like dropping in a random year and picking up whatever mega-wad looks interesting.

Speaking of which, are Plutonia 2/Revisited/Revilution worth playing?

>>16522204

>random panel of community chucklefucks arbitrarily give out awards to their friends and whoever sucks their dicks the hardest

>people act like they have any meaning beyond who shilled the hardest and who sent the most feminine benis pics behind the scenes to the trannies

They're a bad joke when it comes to who wins and how. Given how incestuous the doom "community" has become over the years it's pretty clear why anyone with a brain dislikes them.

>spoiler

I liked Revilution, but the plutionia2/revisited weren't that great IMO.

>>16522253

>nepotism and dick sucking

isn't that how all award assemblies work?

>>16522303

Yes, but we're talking specifically about one with a panel of discord trannies.

>>16522253

Not even a question of site quality, but you figure there would be more discussion given any supposed authority like how Oscars cause more talks on the nominated films– especially if they're more controversial like Boss Baby or Black Panther. Hell, people chat it up about the JCP.

But to that answer, the Plutonia stuff feels more of the same for those that really like Plutonia. Revilution has more expanded/revised ideas to help soothe those that like the concept of TNT more than its execution.

>which vanilla episode is your favorite?

Knee Deep in the Dead will always be my favorite even if it's not the best.

>which is your favorite gun

Shotgun, not the super one.

>favorite enemy

Cacodemons

>level

e1m3

>OST(Sign of Evil)

Sign of Evil

>What wads are you playing

DoomOne with Project Brutality

I've completely burned out on TNT(map 20). Ever since map 14 I believe it feels like the map design has shifted from "go fast, hit hard, kill shittons in tightly packed rooms and corridors" to "go into room with very small assortment of enemies, mostly barons/cacos/pain elementals, then flip a switch and run around a bit trying to figure out what that switch did because progression is a bit odd and where you're meant to be progressing and where secrets are supposed to be is a blurry line".

Onto Jap Project I suppose.

>>16516681

Can someone please give me a link to the wads. Fuck waiting another day.

>>16522661

>>16522661

Thank you.

An updated version of Sigil has been released on Romero's website. Eye switches are fixed to work properly so you don't end up breaking the maps and killing the spider mastermind on map 8 no longer ends the map prematurely.

https://www.romerogames.ie/s/SIGIL_V1_1.zip

>>16522661

How cam I use this, please spoon feed.

>>16525345

>google "Doom sourceport"

>kill yourself

2 simple steps

>>16525385

Not exactly what I was asking, I ment his link.

>>16525393

>>16516956

>>16525404

No problem, I don't know why he decided to mess with the link when it's just posted plainly earlier in the thread, the damage is done in that case.

Who's the fucking bastard who made Pain Elementals?

>>16526315

probably satan

Which was better, Doom 3 or Doom 4?

>>16526523

Doom 64.

>>16516697

>Nowadays "boomer" can just mean

Yeah no, fuck off cuckchan.

>>16517030

>Guncaster

Holy shit, just tried it, it's fucking russian overkill amped to eleven, it's actually bloody fun

>>16522531

They also removed the arena survival part when you got too hell.

>>16526502

>expecting anything good from John "Daikatana" Romero

>>16526935

Daikatana being bad wasn't solely his fault to be fair

>>16526727

It also has two fuckable dragons.

>>16527129

♂ or ♀?

What are some nice smaller megawads or episodes? I'm a bit sick of the base IWADs but large maps are just a chore to play too.

>>16526315

They're manageable except on -fast, then they're unbearable.

>>16527461

Rename the config file and generate a fresh one. Alternatively try the vintage build.

>>16526523

4

It's basically a stripped down, streamlined Painkiller game with some annoying shit like unskippable cutscenes and <3 sec qte animations to pick up ammo/health.

3 is System Shock for retards.

>>16516738

It feels like a bunch of Romero maps. Make of that what you will.

I really love the Buckethead music, though.

>>16527017

It was definitely his decision to add those "backup" characters you have to babysit throughout the whole fucking game. Fuck that shit, in any game, escorting in games is never fun. It doesn't make you his bitch so much as it makes you those gay fucking characters' bitch.

>>16526727

Check out Guncaster Vindicated, it replaces the monsters with their Brootal Dewm variants for a more decent challenge, lets you tweak a bunch more shit and comes with the Hell on Earth megawad included. I think it also might make the enemies in Heretic/Hexen/Strife brootal-ified but I'm not too sure.

>>16527560

Scythe (and 2 and X) all have pretty small maps

>>16527627

The Buckethead OST is great, I actually like the base MIDI tracks, too.

>>16527151

Dudes.

>>16527672

Oh wait, do you mean fuckable as in they're hot? Because I thought you meant they were actually fuckable HDoom style.

It's gay anyway so I guess it doesn't matter.

>>16515808

Ok. Sure.

The Doom auto wad maker is some of the best shit ever

Just finished Sigil - it's bad. Like 1/4th of the rooms are pitch black for some reason, there are too many segments involving extremely thin walkways surrounded by unescapable lava pits to count and the final map is just all around boring, plus the decorations and design are nothing special at all. It feels like something the Mementor Mori guys would've made back when they were first starting out - definitely not worthy of being considered E5.

>>16527560

>Rename the config file and generate a fresh one. Alternatively try the vintage build.

Already did both of these before and nothing.

>>16528960

Are you using an entirely freshly extracted vintage build or copy pasting it over the new one?

Still haven't beaten the originals, beaten NuDoom on Nightmare, quite enjoyed it. I've tried the originals and enjoyed em, but just haven't really had the energy to beat them, most likely because due to my autistic standards I've been using stuff like Project Brutality off the bat and I assume that's a reason for my lack of energy, because it's probably harder due to it's very nature. With the bank holiday weekend I might as well try my hand at Ultimate Doom again, any WADs I should pick up that might help me enjoy it a bit more without being too wacky for newcomers?

>>16529579

For gameplay try something a bit quicker like BURL TUMD or Faspons instead of PB. Runs better and is better balanced.

For maps try any of the DTWID stuff if you just want different maps, maybe look at the Doomworld megawad club threads for ideas of other maps. As faggy as that place is those guys do pick decent mapsets.

>>16529604

Any tips for the game itself? I recall getting lost a lot in the shit I did beat, first level of Episode 2 iirc was a big example of just utter pain and running around trying to find where to go next.

>>16529667

>E2M1 was confusing

You sure you don't mean E2M2? If you weren't trying to 100% E2M1 it's a pretty straight shot.

Anyway, it really depends on the mapset but it is more mazey that modern zoom zoom games. I would say that there's no shame in looking up a YT vid if you get really stuck, because if you're more used to objective markers and modern "map design" you may not be in the same mindset as the mappers were back in the 90's. Generally though, flip every switch, automap is your friend, use your ears because lots of secrets open by walking over specific areas. You'll get the feel eventually and understand what's expected of you. Latter half of Doom 2 is still filled with shit though.

Played sigil, dunno if romero lost hos tpuch or is just doubling down on the doom2 level design, but i didn't like it one bit.

Is ion maiden level design good (by good i mean doom1 level of design)?

>>16527461

Sorry to hear about that man, that really sucks, could be a compatibility issues.

>>16529903

This is Bethesda-tier "you can't make a game titled Scrolls or we'll claim trademark infringement" levels of dickishness.

>>16529903

>Oh yeah, they're also getting sued by Iron Maiden for trademark infringement.

that's really fucking stupid.

>>16530045

>>16529903

How the fuck is it even infringing it's a fucking name, it's not even the same name.

>>16530048

How can they even claim to own the name Iron Maiden with a straight face? Same with id and Doom come to think of it. I can see it when it is a new, unique name, but this shit is just fucking silly.

>>16530058

They're smoking pure uncut Judaism.

>>16530045

>that's really fucking stupid.

You're sounding awfully antisemitic there, buddy :^)

>>16531028

I always guessed that's where the gas comes out that makes them float.

>>16531028

My theory is that someone used the model as a fleshlight.

Either that or those holes are simply the impressions resulting the stand they used to hold the model in place while scanning it.

I can't remember if the caco was one of the demons without a clay model, and if it wasn't then I assume the fleshlight theory is why that model hasn't surfaced.

>>16531050

The Cacodemon was Photoshop;d from D&D Astral Dreadnought art. >>16531061

>>16531061

>The Cyberdemon has a pretty well-defined ass.

I do not want to think about it.

I decided to go back and finish plutonia since I was on map 28 anyways.

I hated it.

>>16531190

The depressing thing about it is I like the majority of the maps in terms of appearance but it's ruined by the monster placement. Also heaven help you if you play fake multiplayer because it adds a boatload of extra enemies, like the first map has Revenants accompanying the first shotgunners and a Spider Mastermind in the main courtyard area. Evilution does similar shit with a Cyberdemon in that one outdoor area in its first map, but at least has things like the BFG9000 from the get-go like Doom 2 does.

>>16531128

I'm pretty sure it's doing the same pseudo-episodic thing Dusk did, where they've released the whole first episode, but all the others aren't finished yet. tbh I never got past the first level because big duke maps run so bad on my budget CPU, same as my experience with AMC TC. Also, Ion Maiden is frankly a stupid name and they knew it was going to be confused with Iron Maiden when they chose it.

Should I pirate Duke World Tour or just stick to Eduke if I want to play Douk? I'm getting an itch to kick ass and chew bubblegum also I'd like to try out the AMC TC.

>>16531590

AMC comes with a copy of eduke already configured, so you don't have to worry about it.

>>16531617

I see. But World Tour comes with a new episode, any good?

>>16531619

I've heard it's just alright. Haven't played it myself.

>>16531626

Seconding this question since it's been plaguing me lately and Doom 2 or Evilution seems the best balance as far as bosses and finding blueprints. In general though with DRLA I suggest the following.

- Use its monster pack. Vanilla monsters don't stand a chance against anything remotely high-end.

- Set its starting danger level to max so you get punished at least somewhat for knowing the master assemblies and such.

- Use LegenDoom Lite with legendary rate either 100% or at max rate and bosses at 100%. This forces more high-end item drops.

It's unfortunate that OBLIGE does not have a DRLA mode, because that would seem a perfect fit. Also how much of this mod have you played?

>>16531644

Yeah, the monster addon spices it up for sure, I was having a better time with Doom 1 than 2 with it myself, maybe it was just RNG of what was dropping. Nice, I'll take those hot tips though.

Oh, as for your question there, I ran through all of Doom 1 with it and most of 2 so far. Planisphere 2 too, just because it seemed like a horrible idea.

Jesus, AMC isn't remotely what I expected. This is kind of overwhelming for a Build Engine game.

>>16531028

Come on, we all know what those holes are for,

>>16515674

>High Noon Drifter

Strange Æons

>Demonsteele

Diabolus Ex

>GMOTA

RUINBROS.WAD

>>16531728

>RUINBROS.WAD

That's pretty good looking, bit of a shake up from the hell on earth aesthetic it seems.

>>16531626

>>16531644

Use OBLIGE plus ObAddon.

https://github.com/caligari87/ObAddon

>>16531790

iv been playing with that for a month or two and really enjoy it. There's enough variety in there that they don't' all feel like the same old oblige map anymore.

>>16529903

Oy vey "Maiden" is a trademark word!

>>16532692

Iron is also a trademark word goy

>>16516683

>>16516697

It's a cuckchan meme, ignore it.

>been playing too many ezmode mods and game mods

>decide to start up the following

>Plutonia, UV, Hard Doom

>literally alt F4 anytime I get fucked over

>open it back up right afterwards to continue

I may have made a mistake

>>16533970

rage quit but you care enough to immediately try again? you're fucked, anon.

>>16529903

When Iron Maiden inevitably loses the suit, I really hope 3Dpd Realms counter sues.

>>16534165

L E W D

>>16531128

It has the first few levels, but apparently the game has pretty much finished development and a release date was supposed to be revealed until Iron Maiden happened.

>>16531418

I believe they're releasing the entire game.

>>16534238

I forgot >>16531028 as well

Oh and to OP:

>which vanilla episode is your favorite?

Shores of Hell.

>which is your favorite gun

BFG9000.

>favorite enemy

Imp.

>level

Tricks and Traps.

>OST

Evilution.

>What wads are you playing

A mixture of mods, but the Serenity/Eternity/Infinity classic episodes too. They haven't aged that well but for the era they're pretty nice.

Also HND has a compatibility patch with Pirate Doom, and the two work well together. Scythe 2 is another decent mix but probably obvious.

>>16534393

OBLIGE is no longer under active development but I use both from Git.

>>16531790

I didn't see any DRLA-specific mode but the mapgen is more interesting for sure. Thanks.

>>16533970

>plutonia

You're just asking for no-fun.

>>16534411

I figured it out, I think. The Miscellaneous category wasn't enabled by default so I guess it was hanging there since that looks to be where all the ObAddon stuff happens.

>>16534226

they had some sort of preview campaign, I know that much

How well does Doom the way Id Did compare to the original mapsets?

>>16534461

I actually enjoyed Plutonia, and hated tnt.

>>16535069

You decide. Don't let other players tell you how to feel about certain maps.

Unless you mean you're trying to get some recommendations. In that case, just try out the first few levels.

I tried Demolitionist class in DoomRL Arsenal with Plutonia. It can be fucking broken. The half ammo consumption perk, while ammo isn't scarce, means you can chain-fire a stock BFG9000 5 times not just 2, which also explains their odd starting capacities. This applies to the nuclear ones too, and if you have the armor that doubles the charge rate, it becomes a default weapon. Worse than that is I actually acquired the Unmaker on the second map in Plutonia which also has halved ammo drain, and like other demonic weapons (at least ones I've seen: Hell's Reign and Soulstorm Rifle) it starts out mediocre but becomes monstrous if upgraded. On top of that the immunity to splash damage is top-tier against a lot of troublesome monster types and the lingering effects of certain barrels.

tl;dr: Don't just play as Technician. He's good but the other classes have their own good sides too.

Is there anything like a standalone Hideous Destructor? Lone Operator going in and clearing out buildings in a tacticool fashion?

>which vanilla episode is your favorite?

Knee Deep in the Dead. It's a really good level and quintessentially Doom. Inferno is a runner up because of how cool it looks visually even though the mazes are a little clunky. Shores of Hell is a weird middle ground and definitely has the more goofy level design but it's perfectly playable. Thy Flesh Consumed is fucking awful and a slog but beating it gives my brain lots of dopamine.

>>16531028

The one on top is for fucking, the one on the bottom is for pooping.

After playing both dooms I must admit 1 had way better levels overall than 2. I really like monster closets full of hitscanners that pop out from behind you and spamming cacodemons. The good thing is that you get a super shotgun to deal with the madness so I can't complain too much.

My favorite wad is probably ashes 2063. It felt a bit short on both the amount of levels and weapons/monster variety, but it's polished really well. I can never get enough of post-apoc settings.

>>16539635

forgot spoil, fuck.

POST YOUR MAPS

>>16540745

Wrong file.

https://mega.nz/#!vQgWBQbJ!clP6aaxNbw0ei1t9cNtlDnOvZRC8Txk5KDWG98X9moA

>>16534771

they knew what they were doing.

>>16539454

> 1 had way better levels overall than 2

I think that's how most people feel, d1 has better levels and music while d2 perfected the mechanics.

Had Romero released his shitty xpac anonymously, the mapper community would have torn him a new one.

>why so heavy with enviromental hazards, is this hl1?

>the fuck is with jumping puzzles and catwalks, we turok now?

Too bad he didn't have the balls to be judged on the merits alone.

>>16542308

The specific problem with Doom 2 is that its maps follow the design philosophy of those in hell (episode 3: inferno), instead of phobos and deimos (episode 1 and 2).

Id Software never went back to that early style in the following games, and competitors occupied the niche (Duke 3D, System Shock).

>>16529844

Ion Maiden's map design is top notch, what's lacking is weapons and enemies variety. It follows Blood in the fact that ranged enemies will devastate you unless you use cover, but unlike Blood everyone is ranged now. Weapons feel fundamentally all the same, and the only interesting one (the bowling bomb) always manages to bug.

>>16542792

It was a cursed decision to make a prequel to a massive flop (Bombshell). The game was supposed to come out Q2 2019, now I expect the lawsuit to shelf it for at least another year (and the preview campaign came out what, 2017?).

>>16539469

There is a reason they call it a Cock-Oh Demon.

>>16544292

The chick who drew that finds Doomguy hot, she drew a daki of him.

>>16544382

But has she shown us her tits

>>16544410

Some of the maps are interesting, some not so much. There's a bit too much reliance on making the player walk across really thin platforms. While, thankfully, none of the maps overstay their welcome, the wad itself feels a bit short. There's meaningful difference between the difficulties, which is always nice. Soundtrack is also great.

>>16544400

Is that the man on his island of kids?

>maps that start off with multiple Archviles in elevated positions, and also on opposite sides of the map so that wherever you go you're getting zapped

Why the fuck do mapmakers do this?

>>16544473

>barons

>no fun allowed

Where's the Pain Elemental/Lost Soul version?

>>16544822

Not to disagree but I really like the baron/pinkies. The mancubus and its insanely fat ass is actually kind of revolting, and just slapping tits on the cyberdemon isn't that hot.

>>16544860

Что это за шитпостинг, омич-полуебок? Забыл про эпик, олсо.

>>16544936

>>16544860

back to sosach now with both of you

>>16544845

yeah but you just try to tell one to count his calories, fat motherfucker just calls you thin privileged before he starts to scream in retard and spray fire fucking everywhere.

>>16544966

>he

nah she.

>>16544410

Sigil requires Ultra Violence to find its soul, I think normal difficulty removes some of the cyberdemons that entire maps were built around. (you are supposed to stealth around and kill them by telefragging)

Just don't expect the shitty lightning and catwalks to fix themselves.

>>16544860

You do know Russia (and China) is working with the Democrats. The promotion of WN is just to play into the Progressive agenda by being a tangible bogyman so the establishment can justify censorship. Both the broader left and Russia have a profit motive in destabilizing western power and undermining democracy. Just read 4th political theory by Dugin where he outlines using the "right wing" by encouraging extremism to bring about the reign of Russia and a new age for Bolshevism.

VIDEO GAMES!

People liked Red Faction, right?

6K887-504LV-LDBP9

>>16558218

Good luck.

>>16518751

This is relevant how?

>The person who made (thing) likes to suck cock

>>16558248

>implying gay and queer are the same thing

Queers are just gays that want more attention for it.

>>16558251

Queer is a bullshit label that anyone who need some vague Lgbtq-ish victim identity without having to live up to anything.

>>16558248

It is relevant because degenerates only care about propaganda first and quality dead last. All converts to the Church of Sodomy destroy their old works to prove they're worthy, making them not only useless but also a threat to good gaming.

>>16537510

TIP: You don't need anything but the high-powered rifle with a power and bulk upgrades if you're playing marine. You can go a long while before finding anything better.

>>16558248

>degenerate who thinks about fucking pixelated demons is butthurt that most people don't like trannies

Just cut your cock off and buy a rope already.

>>16564852

What?

>>16568206

>>16568245

This is what memes get you tbh. Don't people ever learn?

>>16568373

It's not even a good meme, it was forced as fuck by retards on cuckchan like those PRO DOOM STRATS videos.

>>16516714

Found the boomer. Reddit and Twitter are that way, friend. You got real lost.

>>16515674

>he waited until nu-doom's e3 reveal to make the thread

Do you want to attract nu-doomfags or something?

>>16516714

The boomer meme is generational D&C from 4cucks. Hard to be proud of your race and heritage when you mock all white adults, uh?

Are there any good WADs or map packs that feature sort of mundane environments being invaded by the demons? I'm thinking stuff like Hellbound.

I just beat Sigil less than a minute ago.

Gotta say, it was pretty fun. Ball hard, but fun. I didn't like how stingy the game was with ammo, though.

I'd definitely recommend playing on Hurt Me Plenty the first time, UV is harder than Thy Flesh Consumed.

>>16589857

>recommending anything below UV

I swear none of you have played any of the harder wads released in the past. Sigil isn't hard, its boring.

Sigil was dull on HMP, but I liked it just fine on UV. Not worth the hype, though. If you're not into cramped, E4M2 style maps you'll get nothing out of this wad.

what's wrong with brutal doom?

I haven't played doom in quite a while so i don't know what are the current happenings in the_doom_community.jpg

>>16594200

It's only partly the mod for how shoddily it's coded, but also the insufferable community that was introduced to Doom because of it and expect it to work with everything when it is basically a TC. Ironically, the author is one of the more compatible people with 8chan, even ZDoom describes him as "toxic".

https://archive.fo/24Qqq Why the fuck does archive.whatever even allow HTTP access?! It's absurd in this day and age!

>>16593978

That second is very much like the real Heretic/Hexen Maulotaur sprites, how the fuck is it meant to get into Freedoom on that alone? This isn't supposed to be like a mod where hacked-up sprites and such are the norm.

>>16594200

It's kinda unbalanced, it uses stolen assets, and zdoom niggers are butthurt about it. Project Brutality is better in every way.

>>16594224

It had nothing to do with Freedom. This was another project he was working on just for fun. In fact he joined Freedom long after he stopped working on those.

>>16594225

are zdoom niggers more butthurt about project brutality? if not then it's not better in every way :^)

>>16594225

Project Brutality sucks in co-op. It's balanced for single player.

>>16594225

Better, but only by slimmest of margins.

>>16594236

Still hate seeing overused spritework in mods.

>>16593978

God, I hate those forums.

Just finished Sigil. It feels to me like the antithesis of nuDoom in many ways.

>nuDoom showers you with ammo and health at every corner, not to mention instakill chainsaw that restores a good portion of your ammo

<Sigil gives you barely enough resources to survive outside of secret areas and even those usually don't contain much

>nuDoom prides itself in its skatepark arena design, emphasizing the ease of arena traversal and enemy evasion

<Sigil features very restrictive level design with a big portion of the fights occurring on narrow ledges or in tight corridors that severely limit your movement options

And so on. I enjoyed the scarcity of health and ammo and the focus on close quarters encounters. Could somebody recommend level packs with similar design philosophy?

>>16594937

Any more Doomworld horror stories?

Why was quake 2 a doom remake?

>>16545475

This is why he's incel

I want to give High Noon a shot with Strange Aeons, but I have no idea how to apply the compatibility patch since I keep getting the AK47 instead of the grishas. Am I supposed to unzip Strange Aeons, replace maxinfo/decorate and then rezip SA with a pk3 extension?

>>16598954

I drag and drop the patch, high noon, and strange aeons onto the shortcut and play.

>>16599374

Still the AK47. Maybe I'm meant to get the AK47?

>>16601012

Doubt it. High Noon Drifter has dual-wieldable grease guns. Your issue is likely load order related since that matters with mods that overwrite parts of each other.

>>16601026

Also didn't work. Got it to work by editing the autoload though, the load order goes HND, Strange Aeons and then the patch.

High Noon is quite fun.

I beat doom 64 earlier, it was great, easily the best aesthetic of any doom game.

>>16598726

>Could somebody recommend level packs with similar design philosophy?

For UDoom? Sigil utilizes too many Doom 2 design choices for UD mappers.

>>16593978

Should have tried appealing to loverslab instead. These fucks sure like nude mods.

or maybe he could man up and just finish project anyway, fuck ZDoom forums. Like there's only them to listen to.

>>16601272

I'm not sure why one would stop working just because a forum of bitches started bitching. I mean it's not like he's selling a product and those sprites imply he likes that sort of thing.

>>16601260

Not necessarily, I'm asking for wads that emphasize careful resource management and combat in constricted spaces. I'm just tired of slaughter maps at this point.

>>16601364

Going Down was built around resource management, I think it should be up your alley. it has a strong survival horror vibe when you play it with pistol starts.

>>16601552

I found GD to be too reliant on cramming dozens of enemies in every nook and cranny to the point it started to lag on my toaster laptop. I'll give it another shot, but I'd like something that doesn't rely on large demon numbers.

>>16601601

I've half a mind to begin work on a claustrophobic chainsaw/shotgun based wad, now.

>>16601601

>>16601670

You know what, I'm on it. If things go well, I should post some results before this thread purges.

>>16601364

Unloved has what you're looking for, although later encounters tend towards bullshit. Great horror atmosphere, too.

>>16601717

Unloved is great until it throws slaughtershit at you in the end for no fucking reason

>>16601601

Gave Going Down another shot. All the problems I've mentioned are there and they're even worse than I remember. The levels usually give you zero room to maneuver and cram shitloads of enemies in tight areas. Loads of hitscanners at close range with no cover, frequent cacodemon and pinky gang rape and some traps that pit you against a bunch of demons on on each side of a tunnel barely wide enough for you. The levels are quite creative, but with the initial novelty wearing off it's just pure frustration.

>>16601272

What's his username? I'm sure some anons could show interest in seeing it completed.

>>16594212

>These people are even bigger prudes than the right wing christians they hate so much.

you remind me of a post I saw once complaining that smooth doom's blood was excessive, I can understand not wanting some of the ridiculousness of something like brutal doom but come on what do they think happens when you perforate a living creature? fuck sake man, poke a hole in a gallon of milk and look at the mess it makes, and that's not even a 6 foot living thing full of pressurized blood.

>>16527151

tfw no dragon bf

So Amid Evil's coming out of EA tomorrow. Is it any good?

>>16613505

I'll tell you once there's a magnet.

>>16614474

>>16613505

>magnet is be62adf99414e6b747c7a34fe2bc085c492c1d1c

Pretty meh, I'd give it 6/10. Weapons feel weak, enemies don't seem very diverse in terms of behavior (completed first 3 episodes), super tome of power mode is hideously overpowered and impossible to use to a good efficiency except in boss fights. They should halve all ammo caps and pickups, double weapon damage, and remove soul mode in lieu of decent altfires. I always think a good metric for weapons and enemies is that if you can't make a level using only a single enemy type or single weapon be interesting, you should go back and rethink them. This game certainly fails that test.

I dropped nuDoom because the mandatory finishers were braindead. But recently I found a mod which disables them, and surprisingly it holds up.

Check it out, it's got a generic name like Weapons Mod 2016 on moddb. Basically, enemies skip the groggy phase and just die; what's more, they don't drop items like in Borderlands, so you are given a siphon grenade early, to heal.

>>16594200

>what's wrong with brutal doom?

The author is a nazi, God bless him. Makes the SJWs at Doomworld furious.

>>16598726

Sigil has shit lightning to imitate Doom 3, platforming on little catwalks, and the final bosses are fought in a straight corridor like in some amateur's map.

Stop sucking dick so hard just to fit in.

>>16594224

Fuck the Doom community, they're all a bunch of degenerate cocksuckers that spend all the time in their shitty little cliques giving each other bats on the ass through the Cacowards, which are basically awards for who in the community is the best and most prolific cocksucker.

They're butthurt about BD not because of the "cancerous" fanbase, but because his mod is so absurdly popular despite giving the faggot clique the middle finger. They're mad for the same reason game journalists lost their shit when THQ came here to ask us questions, he shat all over their gatekeeping and ruined their power fantasy.

If you need any more proof the whole Doom modding community is made up of worthless subhumans look no further than how hard they've been tripping over each other to shove that tranny cock into their mouths.

>>16619727

>shit lightning to imitate Doom 3

It's has dark areas, but they're nowhere as common and, more importantly, not pitch black like in 3. You can always see the enemies, although sometimes it's just their silhouettes.

>platforming on little catwalks

Yes, this is exactly what I said. If you're implying there's too much of it I agree with you, this shit quickly gets old.

>the final bosses are fought in a straight corridor like in some amateur's map

I'd say the entire last map is underwhelming. It's too easy, too small and too bland to be the final map of an episode, really.

I'm curious, are there any 40k wads?

As in a total conversion and not just "you get to use a bolter/chainsword" weapons pack.

>>16594224

lol, what a bunch of fags

>>16619796

>its just 2 maps that are fucking ruined by darkness

>it's masterworks outside of jumping puzzles and crushers

>okay and the last map just sucks

Romero scammed a load of bazingas with a subpar wad that absolutely any cacoward recipient would have made better. Don't use him as a paragon of good gaming versus nuDoom.

>>16594224

>Ironically, the author is one of the more compatible people with 8chan, even ZDoom describes him as "toxic".

I'm more concerned with 8ch being introduced to people like you via doomworld

>>16620136

>>it's masterworks outside of jumping puzzles and crushers

Who are you quoting?

>>16619776

This is exactly why you shouldn't respect anyone who posts on Doomworld or the ZDoom forums. I'd say Zandronum too but lol dedgame.

I replayed Doom 4 after spending a lot of time with 1,2, and 3 this past month. I like it a lot less than I did in 2016 but I don't think its terrible either.

The main problem I have is how much it relies on locking you in a room and spawning in a bunch of monsters. The only way to win is to run around like a headless chicken taking pot-shots at whatever gets in your way, taking even a second to assess what you're up against and respond accordingly gets you killed.

Outside of those arena parts, the level design is fine but so many of the room and corridors are empty. In past games this was the exception, not the rule. The infrequent encounters during regular gameplay are so much better than the regular arena parts. Doom 3 almost got it right but relied on monster closet too heavily.

Eternal is looking more like the kind of thing I want so I'm hopeful for it.

>>16519324

Terry was just thinking that he wanted your

GOODYSCRUMPOSO BOOTYASS

>>16619776

I concur. Some great examples of autofellato circle jerking cancerous fags are WildWeasel and TerminusEst13. There are many others but I can't think of them atm. I remember lurking when John Romero was going to visit one of the communities, so everyone banded together and wanted to present Samsara over to him and Romero ended up bailing on them to do some classic skulltag co-op. So like a bunch of overgrown entitled man children they got butthurt and my god, the saltiness was fucking 10 out of 10.

Back to OP's question.

>Hard to say since I like Evilution and Doom 2 over Ultimate Doom.

>Alpha rifle. I have no fucking clue why ID software bailed on the idea of having a rifle in the Doomguy's arsenal when he's a fucking marine out of all things.

>Spider mastermind. It's so goofy but yet so menacing at the same time.

>Any city scape level from Doom 2

>Most of the OST from Doom 2 and TNT, I got into the metal bands that they were inspired from after doing a little research back in the day

>Splatterhouse 3D, Fall of Triton with a customized PSX Rifle I added myself, and a Silent Hill inspired mod I stumbled upon the other day called Soundless Mount.

>>16620366

>Alpha rifle. I have no fucking clue why ID software bailed on the idea of having a rifle in the Doomguy's arsenal when he's a fucking marine out of all things.

Is that the same rifle that Smooth Doom lets you play with?

I quite like Smooth doom. The chaingun animations are really cool.

>>16622058

>>16620366

What exactly did Term do?

>>16622058

WAIT, he doesn't even code his own shit? What the fuck?

>>16622596

That's the "Doom community" for you.

>>16622684

>>16622058

So that's why playing High Noon Drifter with Brutal Doom has a "funny" >playing brutal doom prompt to it?

I want to give BD a shot honestly. What's a good mapset for it and how toaster friendly is it?

>>16623068

There've been some major optimizations, so it should run fine, depending on how toaster your PC is. My old 2010 notebook runs it great.

>>16623117

I see.

Also DL for amid evil. I haven't played it yet.

I'm such a dumbass.

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>>16519013

>are there any lewd wads that aren't h-doom?

There's one that gives the demons dongs.

>>16623068

Brutal Doom is ostracized because of Sargeant Mark IV's irredeemable masculinity, but it does have its fair share of faults. Compared to its heyday years ago, now the mod is bloated with useless bullshit. It's one thing to laugh at retrokids pearlclutching because the standard rifle had an ironsights alt fire, but all understandable to call bullshit to adding giant shuttle and radar props in e1m1.

Either play vanilla maps with BD, or get the hell on earth starter pack, which is basically brutal duke 3D.

>>16623291

Well, is there a pure gameplay change version of Brutal Doom? I'm not a big fan of many of the graphics mods unless they're animation based.

>>16623291

My problem with BD is how much it influenced Doom 4, especially with those horrible fucking glory kills.

>>16622058

C'mon Sarais, this got old a long time ago. Don't you have anything better to do? Like finishing one of those maps that you will never ever finish. Or shilling some shitty ass game. Or trying to come up with better bait.

>>16622684

He did code HND himself, but he indeed had quite a bit of help, because he didn't know how to code in ZScript. Also, if I recall correctly, he coded all other mods himself bar Samsara I believe. Seriously, Sarais, it's time to stop killing Doom threads. You made them even worse than half/vr/! Not that threads were good to begin with, mind you.

>>16623398

But that's not the case? D44m came up with glory kills separately from BD's fatalities. Don't let Markito fool you.

This reminds me, should I play Doom 4 at some point?

>>16618207

>I always think a good metric for weapons and enemies is that if you can't make a level using only a single enemy type or single weapon be interesting, you should go back and rethink them.

Interesting metric. Is it consistent with game quality?

>>16624409

In my experience it generally correlates pretty well, at least with shooters. Doom doesn't fully pass that standard, but it does for most enemies because the other mechanics are solid. I think the best example of it is FEAR, which doesn't really have many enemy types but you could easily make a level with nothing but riflemen and create interesting and challenging scenarios. Amid Evil has a bunch of really generic enemies that aren't very interesting on their own at all as a rule, relying more on visual diversity than gameplay diversity to keep the player interested. That's just my opinion though, you should try it and see if you think the same.

>>16624356

>smart enough to use TOR

Is this cuck for real?

>>16624423

I'm actually playing Amid Evil and I agree that the enemy variety (gameplay wise) isn't impressive. It serves as mindless fun while listening to some podcast/stream, but it's not much more than that. Dusk did better with both gameplay and level design. I do like AE's graphics, though: it's a better way of doing "retro" looks.

As an aspiring gamedev, your comment on single enemy/weapon levels as a metric has got me thinking though. Maybe this is an interesting criteria to try and measure up to.

>>16624526

I'm huge on enemy AI as a driving force, so in my mind it's best to make enemies that have both a distinct enough set of actions to feel "different" but also either enough smarts in applying them to be a real threat or a wide enough niche to apply to many situations. The worst types of enemies in modern games are the ones that have no self-preservation and just run at the player to attack. Acceptable in the 90s, not today.

>>16623483

You couldn't be more obvious about being the guy you're defending if you tried. Don't be a faggot, just nut up and tell the tornigger to fuck off next time. You're fooling nobody and there's no reason to even try unless you think some fag in your community will care.

>>16623241

That is a very nice image.

>>16623398

>My problem with BD is how much it influenced Doom 4, especially with those horrible fucking glory kills.

You learned a retarded meme from retrokids, congratulations. Brutal Doom's snap and kill gameplay is derived from military shooters, while Doom 4 has bullet sponge enemies that you're supposed to kill in a constantly moving deathmatch.

If anything, nuDoom copied Metroid Prime: not only with the fluid floaty feeling, but specifically the fights against the chozo wraiths (you were boxed in a room with fast moving targets, strafing between shots). The fatalities are nothing new or exclusive to BD, think Condemned.

What sets Brutal and nuDoom close, is the retarded internet memes around super duper doomguy. That 99% of suckers ITT swallow down ever happy. It's that bad shit which ages the game, and wasn't there in the originals (or even 3), so much that in a decade it will be considered too cringeworthy to pick up again, a teen mistake like edgy comics in the 90s.

>>16623390

Get one of the early versions of the mod, before he added a bandolier to the shotgun. That was before the feature creep.

Anyone have the "beginner's guide to quake" image macro?

>>16522204

>Plutonia 2

More Plutonia. If you liked Plutonia, you'd like Plutonia 2. Expect this to be even more difficult compared to the original.

>Revilution

Pretty cool continuation to TNT. Has several callbacks to the original maps, a few cool gimmicks. But also tried to do its own thing in a few maps. 8/10 I'd say.

>Revisted

Bad. It's actually Plutonia but with all the annoying bits amped up to 11. Ammo is actually fucking scarce so if you miss oh boy I hope you like using that pistol. Too many tasteless "remember this???" map design too.

>Scythe Map23

What fresh hell is this

>>16627410

Isn't that the thing colloquially referred to as shotgun testicles?

>original Doomguy's vest

>a mismatched set of pants and vest

>garish colours

>half torn and stripped

>nuDoomguy's praetard suit

>a fucking power rangers costume

>grimdark with ebin demonic technology

>air tight, must shit in its own pants

>>16631728

Yes

>>16544845

Oooh fuck, more?

Tried putting Madness Interactive sounds in Doom.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y80b86ictoj3amy/Madness%20Sounds.wad?dl=0

>>16640305

Not baiting, do you want me to take a pic of my PS3?

I've never played the first doom in any real capacity

>>16627405

I think a more appropriate name for NuDoom would be Brutal Halo 3, given the aesthetics of brutal doom, halo, and doom 3 all mashed together into one slightly-above-average game.

>a teen mistake like edgy comics in the 90s.

At least the comics spawned some noteworthy memes and good jokes. Not to mention being overblown and campy enough to enjoy.

>>16531790

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53675

Don't forget this, too.

>>16531790

How do I get the "ZDoom Stuff!" in the OBLIGE options, as well as psychedelic mode?

anyone else been having this problem with the last several version of obaddon? i select none for teleports yet teleports keep fucking showing up. talking about actual teleports you go into not teleporting monsters.

>select theme different from psychedelic

>still get psychedelic maps

ObAddon's a bit fucky

Today is the first day I'm diving into Doom WADs. Can you recommend me the good ones? I remember a few and would like to know the names of them.

Metroid Dreadnought looked awesome when it was posted here years back. I have a question, someone said in the wiki that he "is making a fork of it to work in GZDoom". Does this mean most WADs won't work in GZDoom?

There was a cool WAD where you could use magic and sword hack n' slash, throw a hammer and it would hit and bounce off walls, or maybe you could wall hop, I forget. I'm going to try Pirate Doom someone mentioned earlier, which looked nice. I'll probably just use the cacowards top 10 yearly and see which I'd be interested in. MM8BDM is another I'll try out.

>>16653426

Note this is on page 16 and someone probably needs to start a new thread. OP also needs to link that one Doom video, I don't have the link but it iterates over some of the more common mods and is a good starting point for questions like that.

To answer you a bit though, it's Metroid Dreadnought Overhaul and that has things like 3D modelled guns not sprites, also it's mostly mods that require GZDoom, and cannot work in ZDoom or Zandronum, but there are exceptions to this. Besides Metroid weapons, there's also UT99 (Doom Tournament), Quake 3 (Hunter's Moon), and Half-Life+OpForce (Lambda). All are very faithful-feeling and I recommend them.

If you want a straightforward mod, GMOTA (probably the magic-sword one you're thinking of), Demonsteele, Hearts of Demons Baron (also the Revenant one though it's not finished) and High Noon Drifter are great. The last can also be paired with Pirate Doom via a compatibility patch. More complex ones would be Lithium, DoomRL Arsenal and Wrath of Cronos. Usually you want to pair a weapon and monster mod, the latter has DoomRL Monsters and Colourful Hell as primary options.

If you like Jojo, or hell, even if you don't, check out the Dio Brando mod, it's really neat and the time stop knife throwing alone makes it worth it. That sort of feature is actually not uncommon in other mods, I know it's on a gun in Russian Overkill, an armor in DRLA, and the Dead Man's Holster in High Noon Drifter, and naturally, the mod that lets you play as Kira which is also not bad.

For helper mods, autoautosave is really helpful if you aren't good at remembering to. Episodic-EX is nice for making Ultimate Doom and Heretic continuous for some mods that might need a longer play time. Target Spy and DamNums are just nice if you want an idea of damage output or monster status. Legendoom Lite makes random monsters legendary so when damaged they get Nightmare! speed and higher HP/damage, but also drop items. Demon Counterstrike adds periodic random monster and item spawns to keep you on your toes.

>>16653168

I don't think so that should be monster closets under trap style, if I remember right gotchas are extra monsters spawned on top of your regular quantity setting.

>>16653757

>gotchas are extra monsters spawned on top of your regular quantity setting.

That doesn't make any sense, gotchas sound like bullshit traps like monster closets or those walls with invisible monsters and shit.

>>16653826

I don't think it's guaranteed it's just a chance to have extras spawned somewhere, I don't use that setting it might be like extra traps you pick up an item and there are imps around the corner you just cleared or some extra strong barons in the exit room.

>>16653456

Thanks. Yea it was demonsteele that I saw footage of a while back. I tried Metroid Dreadnought, somewhat decent. Pirate Doom says I need doom 2 apparently, and MM8DM was pretty fun the first 3 levels. Too bad the story is a deathmatch, but still is fun.

I'll keep your games in mind for the next set of WADs to try.