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814421  No.16493974

Such an underrated series. It really does make you wish that mainline pokemon games had stories that were half as endearing as this.

Anyways,

>favorite PMD game?

>if you could choose from any pokemon species, which pokemon would you and your partner be?

My favorite is still Explorers of Sky, as it always has and always will be. And if I ever got isekai'd, I'd like to be a Riolu & have an Eevee as my partner.

2d6f09  No.16493980

WPWYF?

Which Pokemon would you friend?


b3c239  No.16493995

File: 8e275e4729278e1⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 935.28 KB, 1280x1871, 1280:1871, p05.jpg)

>>16493980

I'd friend with benefits a Braixen!


154cd5  No.16493998

Exploreres of Sky

was partnered with Totodile in Sky, i think I'll stick with him


2d6f09  No.16494010

>>16493995

>S*rebii

My sides


87a1e6  No.16494017

I'm curious about the 3DS Mystery Dungeon games. How do they do balance, gameplay, and plotwise? Should I even bother emulating them in Citra?


0d601f  No.16494104

the gameplay of these games is horse shit and i don't know how anybody enjoys it


b15c4d  No.16494112

PMD explorers of time/darkness/sky were masterpieces


b15c4d  No.16494116

>>16494017

They suck dick, don't bother


7fac87  No.16494141

File: a1d37436a38fc16⋯.jpg (92.49 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, 1128251096646934529_D6haY9….jpg)

>>16494017

You should at least try them out for yourself on citra. It plays alright. Too much handholding and expository nonsense happens in the beginning. Haven't beat it yet because I dropped it a while ago. So I can't really speak for story. Sorry anon.

>>16494104

Move linking. I genuinely enjoy setting up move combos. Shame they stuck to traditional 4 move limit.


116062  No.16494343

>Such an underrated series.

I dunno I think it's pretty appropriately rated, The games are good but they're hardly masterpieces and the series is very popular amongst niche groups. Definitely a better game than Conquest (and pinball etc if you were to count those?) but it's still pretty flawed in a lot of ways.


b217aa  No.16494373

Only played the original, really need to make time for those sequel games everyone's always gushing about.

>>16493995

You find it risible, eh?

When some sound effect says biggus dickus?


1834f7  No.16494375

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>>16494343

They actually are pretty underrated. They got shit on hardcore by reviewers despite being some of the best JRPGs on the DS.

My favorite part of the reviews is when the reviewer says the soundtrack is boring and repetitive, considering that particular game (Explorers of Sky) has one of the most expansive soundtracks of all time, clocking in at about 6 hours worth of music.


b06df0  No.16494386

>>16494373

Hope you're just aiming to pirate and emulate/flash cart them. Explorers of Sky's shot up to $45 where I live, and that's a cart only price at that.

Actually, might as well ask here since I'm looking to play them in the future myself: Has the series had any "Wonder Card" tier content like the main Pokemon series, in that meaningful content has been locked to temporarily available free downloads stored on servers that may not be around anymore? Or are all dungeons and plot available within the games themselves?


c82fa3  No.16494402

>>16494386

I know for a fact that a Explorers of Darkness exclusive legendary could only be gotten in Explorers of Time from a WiFi download mission. Not sure about Sky.


c06fe4  No.16494415

File: 666591f196dbf04⋯.jpg (71.57 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, grov.jpg)

Explorers of Sky. Only played the first two though, Red and Sky.

Fav team: Mudkip and have a cubone as my bro.

Really loved those side stories. Esp pic related.


464e48  No.16494419

>>16494386

You will need to use pre-prepared Wonder Mail quests to be able to recruit some version-exclusive pokemon and few extra dungeons in PMD 1, but otherwise everything is in.

gamefaqs.please use archive.is/ds/929407-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-blue-rescue-team/faqs/45032

For PMD Darkness/Time/Sky just get Sky. It has everything in.


f04807  No.16494425

Always felt as a kid when playing Blue was it was 2 deep 4 u or something. Either way, I need to finish Sky but I'm not seeing the story is better than Blue so far. Either way, I need to start from the beginning again on Sky.


b06df0  No.16494428

>>16494402

>>16494419

Alright, thanks.


fc3fa4  No.16494457

>>16494425

Red/Blue didn't strike me as pretentious, or anything like that. Both that game and Explorers had adventure stories written for 5 year olds, with a little tear jerker at the end. Don't read too deep into them, it's about the opposite of what they are trying to be.


b0d92b  No.16494487

>>16494375

>They actually are pretty underrated. They got shit on hardcore by reviewers despite being some of the best JRPGs on the DS.

They're just average Mystery Dungeon games that replace equipment drops with a Pokemon moveset, ultimately Shiren, Dragon Quest and Etrian all play better.


f04807  No.16494523

>>16494487

Never liked the first person view of Etrian. Unless we are talking about the mystery doungen one which the sequel has yet to be translated and brought to the west… I felt the first one had some really trippy power levels and the story/plot was far weaker than mystery doungen. I'll take Mystery Dougen Pokèmon over Etrian mystery dougnen. Donno DQ had one, gotta check it out.


000000  No.16494575

>underrated

>despite being consistently praised

>despite the gameplay being mediocre

>despite massive imbalances between pokemon due to their learnsets and iq skills

>story is good overall but few characters have any form of agency and most plot involved characters are shallower than a puddle

Personally, I'd rank the games gameplay wise:

EoS/D/T>Super>BRT>RRT>GtI

And story wise:

Everything else>>Super

RT had the fugitive arc, Gengar and a well constructed world

Explorers had the best plot

Gates had the best characters

Super had a completely irrelevant arc that spanned 2/3rds of the game, then throws out rapid fire plot twists without foreshadowing or buildup in the last 1/6th of the game


000000  No.16494583

>>16494017

Gates is piss easy and only worth it for the story, which is thankfully short. Most dungeons don't have hunger and the move leveling mechanic is OP. Going through the story dungeons and nothing els makes you already feel overleveled.

Super is somewhat different from its predecessors. The wands and emeras add more roguelike elements to the game. Emeras are items you can pick up and slot into your held items that can have a variety of effects, including some IQ skills from the older games, offensive and defensive boosts. Some emeras are completely broken, like the one that automatically revives partners with full health, belly and pp if the team leader has it equipped. Emeras can also be consumed for a very slight stat boost. Any emeras and effects caused by emeras disappear once you leave the dungeon.

Hunger ticks down significantly faster and you recover less belly by eating consumables such as berries than before. At the cost of your hunger, you can now push allies as well as enemies. You can switch the leaders at almost any time in the dungeon, each Pokemon has a different belly that only ticks down while it is the leader. Dungeons are far shorter than in previous games, most dungeons are 9-12 floors. Max elixirs are now rare and have been replaced by elixirs that restore 10pp for every move. Like in Gates, your normal attack does 5 damage at most, and move linking is gone. However, you can do a team attack in which your team members surround the enemy and each uses a move you selected beforehand. This ignores resistances. Reviver Seeds can be found almost exclusively in shops in the overworld, they have been replaced by Tiny Reviver Seeds which only refill your health. Large Pokemon now fill a 3x3 square and can attack/be attacked by several Pokemon at once. The partner AI is somewhat improved and partners will actively try to pick up items and walk around uncovered traps.

You can only bring parties of 3 or less into dungeons, but you can travel to the sand continent before every exploration to pick up an item that lets you summon Hoopa on each floor of the dungeon. It doesn't share your inventory, but it can gain xp and level up. If you talk to it, it has a chance of summoning legendaries you have recruited.

If you weren't using emeras, you would be severely underleveled for the main story. This is made worse by the added speed stat which determines evasion and accuracy. To slightly make up for this, the lower your max health is, the faster your health recovers. Early in the story you can already recruit Pokemon far stronger than you and your partner, though they are not available during story missions. Jobs have been replaced by connection orb missions, of which there is a limited number and which always result in at least one Pokemon being recruited.

Some Pokemon can only be recruited by talking to them in the towns where they randomly appear which is a mechanic with the only purpose of wasting time. Whenever you want to go to another continent you have to suffer a 10-30 second long unskippable cutscene after navigating five text boxes, which is worsened by the fact that you can only read specific dungeon info by traveling to the continent and viewing the dungeon list from the travel gate, as well as the fact that all postgame dungeons are on another continent. The travel gates on the other continents are as far away from the starting point of the area as possible.

The move leveling was somewhat toned down, but you can still use move boosting items to permanently make certain moves extremely strong. You can have several preset teams at once, which you can choose and customize when selecting a dungeon. Once the school arc is over, there is about a 50% chance that a random team of Pokemon is motivated, which gives 3x xp to the Pokemon in the party and 1x xp to all Pokemon you have recruited. Pokemon other than you and your partner have about a 30% chance of not being available on any given day, so you sometimes need to change your teams you put together for specific missions or do different missions to pass the time. The pierce ribbon still exists as a legendary item, so don't use permanent boosters before you get it.

Both games suffer from slow text speed, no way to instantly complete the current text box and the inability to use the touchscreen for advancing the text.


b0d92b  No.16494587

>>16494523

Mystery Dungeon of course, not the Wizardry shit, all of these are Torneko reskins. I like the spinoffs more than Torneko though, I prefer the SNES version over the PS1 release.


90cefc  No.16494588

>>16493974

>Not mentioning pokemon mystery dungeon is a spinoff of mystery dungeon


b0d92b  No.16494595

>>16494588

If he thinks these games are somehow underrated I doubt he'd even k now about that.


ce0b3a  No.16494599

>>16494375

Best JRPG is a stretch when Shiren is also on DS and a far better Mystery Dungeon game. Legitimate masterpiece.

I think the Pokemon games are appropriately rated, they're well-regarded, but not must-plays.


3152be  No.16494705

>>16494386

Pretty sure patches for those already exist.


4e452e  No.16495179

>>16494415

I had mudkip and shinx. Shinx was a good sidekick.

>have to beat the game before finding a gastly

Every fucking time. Why can't there be a single fucking pokemon game where I can actually use the one pokemon I actually like?


a10de3  No.16504481

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>>16493995

Oooooooo


c82fa3  No.16504508

https://mega.nz/#F!gFlVkSLI!tXbyoO5rwfUYnb9jf7yVsQ

Forgot to repost this stolen 4um archive of non-3DS PMD games. I don't know what the xdelta is for and reading an archive site doesn't help at all.

If you already played them all, I recommend getting it anyway for the ROM editor that lets you play with custom starters in Sky. Not sure if it works for either Rescue Team, mind you.


b06df0  No.16504517

>>16504508

An xdelta would be a patch of some kind, removal of cutscenes from the sound of how it's titled.


c82fa3  No.16504543

>>16504517

I know what an Xdelta patch is, I just don't get what it's supposed to do. I'll see what I can find out.


621afb  No.16508886

>>16493980

Goodra, because it's cute and looks like it'd give a sloppy blowjob.




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