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>>16471203

>looks like Special K can now disable DOF

Neat. I may try it but some people in that thread complain about not being able to launch the game and just see a Special K logo. I would rather not go through the trouble of reinstalling if it doesn't work. Plus, the FPS for me is actually much better in Sotenbori for some reason

>>16471233

>I would rather not go through the trouble of reinstalling if it doesn't work.

You don't have to reinstall, it's just like 3 files you paste into the directory with the YakuzaKiwami2.exe, and if it doesn't work you just delete those three files. It doesn't overwrite anything.

t. did this because black screen

>>16471238

I see, that's convenient. I hope he finds a way to lower draw distance. That seems to be the worst FPS killer.

I dropped the game around chapter 10

The combat is really awful. It started off neat but the novelty wore thing 2 chapters in and it devolves into shitty dynasty warriors esque gameplay with 0 precision on anything and every fight ends up in either complete domination or trading hits until you inevitably win because nothing registers properly.

The boss fight with Shindo is really fucking bad and highlights how awful the combat is. 5 quick punches and he changes phases and since he can just guard whenever he wants and cancel out of anything into a dodge attack trying to learn his moveset or react to anything is just a waste of time.

>>16471251

Oh and I forgot about the grabs. In this game the throw is changed to a shitty spinning move. Same for all the throw finishers. Except it gets interrupted whenever the guy you're spinning hits a wall and you don't even do any extra damage for slamming them into the walls. However enemies have amazing throws that you cannot dodge. They can just go from complete neutral into a throw that locks you in the animation with no way to escape. Theres a special move you can learn from a primer that allows you to counter enemies who grab you except its fucking useless since no enemy grabs you and you can't use it to counter those inescapable throws.

>DRM mods

>>16471287

>Nobody's going to argue 6/K2 combat is anywhere as good as 0/K I think

Its worse than the original 2's combat by a long shot.

One of the biggest things Yakuza 2 had over Yakuza 1 was that enemies weren't pushovers with no health. K2 pisses all over that.

>>16471507

>implying I am using his worthless workarounds

the game runs fine on my toaster

>>16471507

I don't even know who this guy is tbh, I just want to turn off DOF + get a couple extra frames.

>>16471507

He was being plenty shat on last thread.

>>16471517

>tfw have never played a yakuza game with the gore on

I saw a few webbums with nail and teeth stuff before I ever played one and it wigged me out.

>>16471507

Spoiler alert:

People can have talent while also holding retarded beliefs

>>16471527

What does the gore option even do?

>>16471517

>Did you unlock it just now or have you used it before? Because a lot of people (including myself) don't realize that they need to buy the ability after learning it.

It's very possible, I just assumed the komaki training would unlock it. I'll check it out.

>How come the thread died so fast?

Probably OP deleted it so it wouldn't have to sink through to page 13 first.

>>16471539

Well it removes blood for sure, beyond that I really don't know.

>>16471553

>It's very possible, I just assumed the komaki training would unlock it. I'll check it out.

It works that way in the other games but in Kiwami 2 you have to unlock every move you learn from someone manually, thankfully they're not very expensive.

>>16471569

Oh yeah, it's probably that acupuncture stuff from 2, right?

>>16471580

The Acupuncturist unlocks tiger drops and a few other things, and they need to be bought too, yes.

>>16471513

The pettiest cocksucking DRM apologist you can imagine. Goes out of his way to hunt down any thread complaining about Denuvo to defend the DRM, he also includes DRM in his own mods along with targeted malware to mess with specific Steam users he's had spats with.

>>16471304

Dragon Engine's combat made me really miss the old one, especially since you get so overpowered that pretty much every fight in the game is a complete pushover. The final fight against Ryuji had my blood boiling the first time I played it and even 2 years ago when I replayed 2 on an emulator it captured the same feeling, but in Kiwami 2 he becomes such a pushover purely due to the fact that Kiryu becomes stupidly overpowered in both Dragon Engine games, hell since you have more heat moves and techniques in Kiwami 2 I'd argue it's much easier than 6. In the last Ryuji fight in Kiwami 2 I just unleashed Kiryu's autistic rage mode and kept chaining autistic rage heat moves on him until he died, I didn't even get out of autistic rage mode before he was defeated, and this was on LEGEND difficulty.

>>16471744

What's so bad about 5?

>>16471754

It's overbloated with stupid secondary content that nobody likes and the story is absolute garbage, also I don't know if it's the problem with just my PSTriple but most of the areas ran like ass, for example when I was walking the town Kiryu was in during the night it would always tank my framerate harder than that one heat mode Mine has which heals his health.

>>16471766

Machinegun Kiss, no question about it.

>Rouge of Love

My kyodai, that's my second favorite karaoke song.

>>16471780

Yakuza 5 has my favorite version though. Specifically the one with Kaguya on vocals and Saejima with backup.

>>16471800

I loved that version as well, Saejima gets REALLY into it as well

>>16471619

>Watched most of the JAVs of the pornstars the hostesses are based off

>Have yet to watch Koyuki's

>>16471766

Bakamitai, seeing Kiryu reminscing Pocket fighter or the dog just gets me.

>>16471819

Sorry to flatten your boner, anon, but Koyuki is fictional and not based on anyone, just like Yuki

>>16471819

I was disappointed that Majima didn't have his own Baka Mitai version in 0, the pic could've been of his left eye.

>>16471619

>tfw did that sub story last night

>that throw option and she slips on them walking back

>tfw getting a casual 4 mil on my second night in paradise league

God damn

sidequest are better than mainquest

>>16472445

Welcome to Yakuza

>>16472780

I looked at a tutorial of more than one hour on mahjong but still couldn't see what the hell the strategic aspect is to this. It must exist, since one manga author has made a notorious career out of it, but fuck if I can figure what.

>>16472793

Majima only started pretending to be retarded after 0.

>>16472796

Why is his ink an hannya, though?

>random crash right when trying to start virtual on

epic… simply EPIC sega…

>>16472795

I know how you feel, allot of the time I don't know how the fuck the game works.

But I found that at the very least a way of winning is to go for 3 of a kind matches, sequences of 3 (1-2-3, - ,5-6-7) or try to make your hand all pairs. and in the process of trying to do this shit just press Square / X to see if you can Riichi after every round, for the most part Ignore when the game asks to Chi, Pon or Kan, sine you won't be able to Riichi if you do.

I and play the game as if I'm building a Poker hand and ignore other rules.

>>16472814

Also does anyone have any hot tips for VF2? I like Akira but I really don't know how to deal damage with him for the most part. I got furthest with drunk old man and wolf. Haven't tried anyone else yet.

>>16472804

No idea, I'm not really that into irezumi meanings and the Hannya is the one which for some reason has the most variety in its meaning.

>>16472820

Unless you're good enough to do the SPoD consistently I suggest you give up on Akira and just do Jeffry's P+K+G because the computer who cheats like a MOTHERFUCKER doesn't know how to react to Jeffry's booty attack but can otherwise read your inputs to an absurd degree. Another thing you can try is Jacky's 66P throw/mid punch option select but it doesn't work as well.

>>16472842

>just do Jeffry's P+K+G because the computer who cheats like a MOTHERFUCKER doesn't know how to react to Jeffry's booty attack but can otherwise read your inputs to an absurd degree

kek thanks, I'll give that a shot when I just want to rekt the CPU.

>>16472872

You'll still lose a few times, but it'll only be 4 continues on average so you won't be wasting nearly as much time as trying to beat the CPU the legit way.

>Kiwami 2 has a Haruka's Request questline again

Oh god, not again.

>>16471203

Boy I hope this SpecialK shit doesn't have malware in it like that nier FAR mod did.

>>16472971

"Win 5 Shogi game without a take back" is actually really easy, instead of playing a real game of Shogi, you can choose one of the challenges, the AI will do the exact same thing every time, so all you need to do is find out how to beat 1 challenge (or just look it up) and then just beat it the exact same way 5 times.

>>16472971

To beat those fucking shogi minigames I simply downloaded free shogi app on my phone and let two bots fuck themselves to the ground on the hardest difficulty, I can't be bothered with this shit.

>>16472445

Boy you don't even know

The final main mission is top tier schlock.

Dumb question, but is there a reason it's called Kiwami in Japan? I was just wondering if mentioning the yakuza is taboo in Japan.

>>16473752

You mean it's called Ryu ga Gotoku/Like a Dragon in Japan, right? I mean, the Kiwami games are called Kiwami regardless of region. No relation to any taboo, it's just the actual title and if you know anything about the series it's a way more accurate title than Yakuza. When the first game released in the west they just tried to ride on the GTA craze and pushed the criminal angle.

That said, every actual yakuza character in the game won't say that word, but rather gokudou, which is the classy term. Yakuza is actually pretty much an insult.

am i weird or did lock-on mechanism got fucked in Dragon engine? it barely works

>>16474779

Play the originals for Playstation, 1&2. 3 is optional if you feel like trying to emulate it or have a PS3. After 3 you can play 0 cause you'll get the most out of the story references.

Or you can just start with 0 and work your way up through the remasters.

>>16474779

Here's the h8chan approved list of the best order to play the Yakuza games in:

6>Kenzan>3>Ishin>5>Kiwami 2>1>Kiwami>2>0>Kenzan>4>Kenzan>Ishin>Kenzan>Kiwami 2>Dead Souls

>>16474779

I know I'll be doomed to repeat this to eternity, but here's the deal.

1 and 2 are perfectly fun to emulate. But if you are allergic to PS2 era for some reason and must play the modern games only, then start with 0. Kiwami 1 is designed to be played after it, as literally all of the additional content is references to 0.

When I open up the game I just get this weird white noise effect that old TVs has but the sounds work okay. Anyone else experienced this?

>>16474779

Honestly, I think that 0 is a perfect place to start. If you don't like 0 then you probably will not like the rest of the games.

>>16474779

I sadly haven't had the opportunity to play Kenzan or Ishin yet but I'd say 0.

>>16475537

You mean this one?

>>16477922

>3 hours

Holy fuck

>>16475537

>>16478037

please understand.

>you can't see your opponents cards anymore when playing Blackjack in Kiwami 2

Literally what the fuck is the point? Might as well play slots at this point.

Does anyone have the link from the previous thread for the Kiwami 2 sound restoration?

>>16478290

Just go on the Steam community hub, it's literally the very first guide.

>>16479372

sad.

>>16481153

Right after the western release of Kenzan.

>>16481955

Here's an idea: No Demo. Stop being a faggot.

>>16481982

t. sega

>>16481955

I didn't even know that it's that soon. It's insane how many (possible) PC ports are in development right now.

>>16481999 (checked)

I honestly almost forgot myself until I wondered when we'll get the demo like we did for the past 2 'Kuza games and noticed that Judge Eyes is being released overseas in just over a month.

So Judge Eye is an asset flip of Yakuza 6/K2? But it actually has fighting styles like 0/K1.

>>16482015

Yeah, from what I've seen and gathered from nip gameplay footage there's 2 fighting styles, both are completely original though a few heat actions are reused.

The blue fighting style is faster and has more crowd-clearing heat moves and attacks, the red one is stronger, has much more attacks that break guard and therefore seems to be designed against single, tough targets.

>>16482026

So blue is now like a fast but weaker brawler while red is now like a strong but slower rush?

>>16482026

Are you sure about this? A lot of people seemed to miss that Beast was the crowd-control style.

>>16482033

Blue is more like Majima's breaker style more than anything, I don't know what I'd compare Red to.

>>16482038

Yes, Blue has a bunch of heat actions where you straight up just take out 4 guys while Red has none of that, also in Blue the main character kind of spins around like a jewish toy so it has wide sweeping attacks designed to hit multiple guys, Red's attacks are very linear.

>>16482046

Is it ever explained why a lawyer is apparently athletic enough to beat people up with breakdance moves?

>>16482046

>>16482053

I mean I'm not complaining it sounds awesome lmao, just curious if they actually address that.

>>16482053

No idea, we'll have to wait to see what the whole deal with that is. The only story tidbit I know is that between him being a lawyer and the when the game starts 5 years have passed, as he got disbarred and eventually became a P.I.

>>16478041

>>16477922

thank you a lot

>>16483331

Sad. I've been hearing that 2 is the best game in the series.

>>16483331

Oh and fyi you actually CAN kick people on the ground, it's just weirdly finicky.

>>16483680

Fuck no. 2 is better than 1, but there is no earthly way you can argue it's better than 0.

>>16483331

>because they had to focus so much on the new engine, they neglected everything else

Yakuza 6 was even worse. No arena or weapon equipment and much less minigames.

All games on dragon engine seem like ass so far.

>>16483733

Well, I've also been hearing 0 is the best game in the series. It seems to me like those two are considered the best, 6 is considered the worst, and the rest I dunno. I've only played 0 and 1 so far tho.

>>16483331

>ALSO THE SOUNDTRACK IS ABSOLUTE SHIT, HOLY FUCK, WHO COMPOSED THIS TRASH?!

Hidenori Shoji, the same guy who did the original.

Fun fact: Sega SOMEHOW couldn't get the rights to remix tracks composed by Sakamoto and unlike every other game in the series where Shoji composed the majority of the in-game tracks, with most tracks which weren't composed by him being used in a minor way, in Yakuza 2 him and Sakamoto had a somewhat even amount of contribution coupled with the fact that Sakamoto's tracks weren't just used in minor ways like being in a minigame or in just one scene, many of them were boss music or story battle themes - examples include Shindo's theme, Hayashi's theme, the two Tigers' theme, the theme when fighting against the Omi goons, when fighting gook goons and many more. The replacement tracks are much worse because they're just boring buttrock. Sakamoto also composed about 4 tracks which would feature in sidequest battles, however in Kiwami 2 they didn't even bother with that, they just put in either Push Me Under Water or Outlaw's Lullaby depending on where the sidequest battle took place.

>>16483331

I really liked the updates to Push me under water and Outlaw's lullaby, though I feel all the other tracks were pretty phoned in. What they did to Shindo's theme was criminal, and replacing crazy ken band with autotune garbage is unforgivable.

>>16484521

What makes you do the 100% runs? Seems Yakuzas are one of the games most anal about being the most annoying and boring in that regard

>>16483331

It's supposedly a improvement of 6 (which I enjoyed much more than I thought I would) but I didn't get much mileage from Kiwami 2; played one near 100% run (just missing mahjong because fuck that shit) and that was it, got NG+ running in Legend but can't bring myself to go through with it. Some things like Memejima construction and bouncer missions were huge time sinks and I'm rather butthurt over the new OST, stupid thing but music is a make or break element for me and I really like the original's OST. There's also a lot of other things that feel over-simplified which IMO is another thing where the Dragon Engine fails, whether it's simple enemy move sets or lack of unique models like Akira Yamaoka being a goatee n' shades mook.

I don't know if I had legit issues with the game or if I'm just burned out of the series (something Fist of the North Star aggravated a LOT) but I'm not sure if I'll get Judgment and anything with that slimy kike replacing Kiryu is going to be a remarkably hard sell for me. Recently booted up Kiwami 1, gonna try a Legend run (and almost certainly chimp out at the Virtua Cop part) to see if the spark is still there.

>>16484521

Impressive. I did a bit of Premium the other day just for the "play every game" trophy and I don't think I'll do more than that - mahjong felt like some Buddhist hell and Majima pounced me on shogi and pool. Sometimes we can surprise ourselves, I started to enjoy poker and a anon here once gave me a few tips for Koi-Koi and I ended up liking the game but that's about it. I'd like to like the pool mini-game but I can't get make anything out of it and the AI just rails me sideways the second it gets a turn to play.

>>16485024

>What makes you do the 100% runs?

Nothing in particular, I just usually 100% any game that's fun enough to get me too keep playing after the credits roll. The way I play, the majority of the the Completion list is done by the time I get to the end of the game anyway so I don't mind cleaning up on the parts of the game I didn't dig too deep into yet.

Most of the mini games are still fun anyway, and the gabbling is going to naturally be a little addictive

>>16485513

>something Fist of the North Star aggravated a LOT

Was the game itself any good? I've mostly just heard negative things, but the small bit of gameplay I've seen looked fun at least. I was hoping that FINALLY getting away from Kamurocho and new combat styles would help with the burnout, too.

>>16485585

is he okay??

>not liking the corny "deliquent with a heart of gold" archetype

I don't mind the other Yakuza members being brutal obviously, but personally I don't want to play as a killer. I loved how much of a gudboi Kiryu was even if it was dumb and unrealistic.

>>16485617

The combat is really fun and all but the problem is that they put in tons of unnecessary grinding just so they could pad it out into a longer game because it obviously has less content than the mainline Yakuza games. If the grinding was at a reasonable level you could've 100%ed the game in about 30-50 hours, but with all the padding it's easily triple that amount.

>>16485625

>is he okay??

He's just sleeping.

>not liking the corny "deliquent with a heart of gold" archetype

I don't have a problem with nice protagonists and not every protagonist needs to be an edgy ruthless killer but we've had 6? (don't know what kind of person Ishin and Kenzan Kiryu was) games with the same nice protagonist now, I think it's time for a little bit of variety.

>>16485633

Kenzan Kiryu was basically a revenge mission with lots of twists and turns along the way. While Kiryu does kill people as he's supposed to be Musashi and it's a completely weapons-based game, he is FAR from being edgy and ruthless. The most "ruthless" you can be is if you decide to do some of the bounties by bringing the wanted man back dead rather than alive, but that's side content.

>>16485617

Like >>16485628 anon said. The devs likely felt obligated to put out a game where the player sinks 100h or something as with the Yakuza games but there isn't enough content to justify it so the completion list is padded to absurd degrees and every side activity will wear out its welcome before you're even done with it and even then you'll have to keep playing to get it done. Could have been a really good 30-40h game you'd want to replay every now and then but instead you'll get a 100+h game you'll never want to touch again.

The leveling system also completely ruined the game. Basically Kenshiro does very light damage that eventually stuns a opponent and opens him up for a secret technique (the equivalent of a HA) that almost always kills but as you level up and get AT upgrades, you'll be killing peons in two jabs and furthermore, the bigger the level difference between you and a enemy, the easier it is to get them in Meridian Shock state and because the game is so goddamned grindy, you'll guaranteedly blow past the stage's level cap.

It's a real shame to see a game that is really good at its core completely ruined by asinine game design decisions. With more content and some things better thought out, it could have easily been a 10/10 of the genre.

>>16485585

I'd rather have a Saejima game. I'd love for a game in Zero/Kiwami's system wholly devoted to a grappler/bruiser type. Beast mode just isn't enough, I want a combo-grabbing monster truck that walks like a man.

>>16485600

I get the substories but I am somehow disgusted by gambling. I get the classic card games but different asian games are hell to learn.

>>16485669

The only gambling hall game that you have to actually learn is Koi-Koi and even then many moons ago an anon found an exploit where you can just go for the ribbons and never call Koi and trash the AI at even expert difficulty. Oicho-kabu is just Asian blackjack, while Cee-lo and Cho-han are literal gambles since there's no real skill you could gain which would mitigate the odds of losing. What I'm saying is that they're certainly easier to learn than fucking Baccarat.

>>16485668

God, why wasn't Kiwami's or Kiwami 2's soundtrack like this?

>>16485644

>Kiryu is Musashi

Does that mean that he kills over 60 people with just two wooden swords and then dies of lung cancer in the end?

>>16485690

Nah, the story is VERY loosely based on Musashi's life, the game ends with him dying trying to fight off a literal army just the day after he fucked and married Majima's adoptive daughter (by the way, he also fucked her sister much earlier in the story but she was sadly killed by bandits). Itto Ittosai for example wants revenge after the Tokugawa killed his family for not wanting to join them, while in real life Ittosai was not only in bed with the Tokugawa, his swordsmanship school was one of the two official schools of the Tokugawa, along with the Yagyu Shinkage school. Speaking of the Yagyu Shinkage school, Yagyu Munenori is actually Sasaki Kojiro, the latter is just his pseudonym just like Musashi adopts the pseudonym Kiryu Kazumanosuke. Also, in the beginning Kiryu joins the Eastern Army at Sekigahara, but has to be on the run after he was basically sent to a suicide mission and after he somehow didn't die he had to escape the Tokugawa chasing after him, while in reality he was on the side of the Western Army and narrowly escaped death after Ishida got defeated by the fat tanuki jew Ieyasu. Also, Haruka is actually Ieyasu's granddaughter. Also, he didn't commit genocide on the Yoshioka school like in real life, he just killed the eldest brother Seijuro and saved Denshichiro from a student revolt, not to mention that in game Siejuro was the master swordsman while Denshichiro only had master rank due to being part of the family, while in real life it was the complete opposite. Also, Tenkai, that guy who is widely believed to be Akechi Mitsuhide in disguise, is the final boss who wants to do some crazy plot to take over Japan, he's a Jingu boss fight, which is really anticlimactic. Also for some reason they never make the Tenkai is Mitsuhide connection in Kenzan unlike pretty much every other game that romanticizes the period that I can think of which has Tenkai in it.

>>16485717

That sounds great, PC PORT FUCKING WHEN?

>>16485742

NEVER EVER

>>16485760

The head of the Yakuza localization team actually talked about Kenzan and Ishin and said that people ask him about those games a lot but his team is currently working on so many new games that there's no time to port the older ones.

https://youtu.be/5inbRvTcBRY?t=570

>>16485769

fuck. I hoped them being done with Yakuza means they will finally port those

also whats easiest way to get yellow spirit points in YK2? I have shit ton of everything else except those

>>16485812

Buy a bunch of appstims then go eat at restaurants. Use the appstims to empty Kiryu's hunger meter whenever it's maxed out, then eat again. Kani Douraku is best for grinding spirit I think.

>>16485625

>I don't mind the other Yakuza members being brutal obviously, but personally I don't want to play as a killer. I loved how much of a gudboi Kiryu was even if it was dumb and unrealistic.

It's just too bad Kiryu is a magnet for yakuza filled helicopters.

>>16485812

Buy appstims and eat at Kanrai in Sotenbori.

>>16486123

Are you just memeing or is the part of town Kamurocho's modeled off of really that bad?

>>16486135

Yeah I'm just memeing, it's pretty dang japanese.

>>16485948

Ever since Yakuza 3 they have been adding niggers and nothing bur niggers to the game.

Sure in 1 and 2 you had Gary but in 3 you have niggers in suits walking down the street like its ordinary. Its just niggers too, no whites at all. I guess its kind of appropriate for the game with glow in the dark CIA niggers but then you have Kiwami 2 inserting even more of them when the base game had almost none.

I somehow dont enjoy clan creator thing.

I was hoping that Kiwami 2 wouldn't turn into bullshit by the end of the story, but the golden castle with the tigers had me corrected. And even if I were to forgive that one, the flashback with young Kazuma would yet poison the well.

Truly the same buffons behind the rubber bullets and evil father twin.

>>16486687

Position melees at the start and move around a few units with rocket launchers. Don't even start playing if you don't got units with repair, healing and an antiboss buff.

>>16483390

>Heavy charge attack usually misses,

I use it all the time, either running against groups or as a finisher. Even after getting the lotus combo, I keep it charged for one last hit.

>>16486308

>but in 3 you have niggers in suits walking down the street

They're supposed to be americans, fam. Like the baseball player in Kiwami 2. You'd be surprised at how many countries associate America with niggers, even in Yrop.

>>16485668

>I'd rather have a Saejima game

I'd like to soft reboot the series, with a sequel to Yakuza 0 with more adventures of Kiryu and Nishki. Yakuza 1 cornered itself from the get go, when they had the MC age in prison to tell a story of friends separated by life. But outside of that very specific theme, all of Yakuza plays better with a young rising protagonist.

>>16486743

the whole thing feels like p2w mobile shit.

>tfw finished grinding out the cabaret club

announcer was a fucking rat, that moment when majima strolls in there, god damn

Is there even anything to throw this stupid sum of money at? I already mass upgraded the clan creator shit, bought 10 of everything from the pharmacist, god damn this feels good. Don't know if i even want to really do the clan stuff though sadly, and fuck that mahjong sidequest, and the golf one too

>>16486730

>I was hoping that Kiwami 2 wouldn't turn into bullshit by the end of the story

What the fuck are you talking about, did you miss the Korean twin mafia gangsters?

Yakuza 2 is nothing but nonstop stream of ridiculous bullshit. Who the fuck plays these games expecting a serious plot?

>>16486763

>They're supposed to be americans, fam.

lolno

American stereotype in japanese media is set in stone. Niggers are niggers and nothing else. I suspect they started adding them because of the whole degeneracy normalization that every Yakuza game has. They probably want niggers to be more palatable to the japanese audience and not something out of the ordinary.

>>16486929

When Yakuza 3 came out a gayming magazine interviewed real Yakuza and he complained about 4 things. 1.) Kiryu's tattoo was unfinished 2.) Nobody did meth 3.) Nobody had a gun and 4.) Too few niggers.

>>16474475

Draconic means "like a dragon" while sounding less cumbersome. They could have just called it that.

>>16486941

They also complained that Kiryu is supposed to the former chairman, but he dresses like a low level Yakuza punk.

>>16486922

>Who the fuck plays these games expecting a serious plot?

That's a cop out, come clean and admit it. Comedy hijinks and bullshit plots are not the same. Just tell a story without plotholes and absurdities.

At least when it comes to the main quest, which is always deadly serious. Do not come up with excuses for what's indefensible, anon. Or you'll never leave behind fanboyism.

>>16486961

Draconic stinks of D&D. 'To be like a dragon' is not a very english expression, it means nothing. Someone might understand the guy spits fire. The equivalent in English would be Lion, Tiger, Fury, Devil.

>>16486920

Give 1 million to the orphanage for some xp.

>>16486914

I beat the clan creator without having the DLC. I have reason to believe those who bought it shot themselves in the foot: all new characters are overpowered, and most importantly, make the SR hires you get from quests absolutely irrelevant.

>>16474475

Why not “path of the dragon”? Sounds pretty cool and also like some cheesy 90s Kung fu flick, which yakuza pretty much is.

>>16486961

Draconic tends to come off as more evocative of a high fantasy D&D sort of thing, and it doesn't really roll off the tongue quite like Yakuza or even just Like a Dragon

>>16487097

Yeah, that's probably the thing they would have to go for if they were gonna keep it close to the original name, though I'm of the opinion that 'Like the Dragon' would have been pretty much fine too.

>>16486941

That "yakuza" interview was just a marketing ploy and a complete fabrication

This real estate acquisition minigame in 0 has all the depth of a mobile clicker, but I love it so much.

>>16488157

Why do you like it? Why does anyone? I mean the story part of it is one thing, but the "game" is atrociously bad.

I can't believe how bad they handled the Omi invasion in Kiwami 2. The biggest, baddest war between clans that was feared through the entire game, boiled down to 10 thugs in 3 little rooms. It's an event that lasts 5!

There's not even special troops in the streets, the populace is still shopping normally. Even Majima squaring off against that truckload of thugs looked bigger in scale than this travesty. Shit, this should have been a main quest bouncer mission but they completely screwed up. To add insult to injury, in those 5 minutes they also defuse the 30 bombs offscreen.

>>16488174

>why is this minigame so simplistic

>aren't minigames like mobile apps

Nu/v/ trying to sound smart.

>>16486941

>4.) Too few niggers.

lmao what

>>16488468

I don't even know what the fuck you are trying to imply with that nonsensical post. Can't even tell if you are defending the game or not.

A lot of people praise how good the two main minigames of Zero are, but both are relatively boring and the real estate speficically is extra braindead with no gameplay in it. The crane game is better than it.

>>16488490

I can't beat bowling in Yakuza 0, I tried for an hour and while I could get consistent strikes I couldn't get three in a row no matter how hard I tried or what I employed

>>16488531

How is that related to what we were discussing?

Don't shoot toward the middle, but slightly to the right. Counter that with a spin, so it ends up at the center anyway.

>>16488531

>he can't into turkey

wot

Baseball, I could understand. That shit gives me flashbacks from my time in the 100 acre woods.

>>16488552

>how is it related

Turns away the bitchfit and I'm pretty sure I tried that like I said I can get strikes really consistently but I always come up one short.

>>16488556

Oh god don't tell me I have to deal with another minigame just to get more of that stuff done?

>>16488475

Apparently there is a growing trend of Nigerian immigrants setting up shop in Kabukicho since the mid 2000s, and the games have been including more niggers as a way to reflect that.

>>16488600

That's true, it's because the yakuza use them to run scams.

>>16488601

>using the least trusted nationality in the world to run your scams instead of your rank and file, which consist of debatably the most trusted nationality in the world (japanese)

Absolutely brilliant.

>>16488629

The yakuza is not nearly as noble or nationalistic as it's portrayed in vidya and television. Especially a lot of the yakuza today aren't Japanese, but are either (((pure gooks))) or (((gook-Jap mischlings.))) Gooks also are running more and more of the media in Japan, which is why there's suddenly more and more pushing of globohomo in Japanese media as well as more coalburning cuck shit in Jap porn. The idea that the yakuza doesn't deal with foreigners because they interfere with their business is simply a myth, about on the same level of delusion as the romanticization of the Cosa Nostra.

>>16488490

>I don't even know what the fuck you are trying to imply

You not understanding shit and trying hard to look learned is the constant of this exchange.

>>16488600

>>16488601

Drugs. Nigerians are beast like and practice voodoo, it is common knowledge that children are sacrificed by medicine men.

>>16489578

Are you going to actually explain yourself or just continue screeching bullshit?

>>16489499

there is more of that

>expecting cool move

its only bashing with item

>>16488951

people are so fucking dumb. even here. yakuza the noble thiefs story is on level of traditionalist russian/japanese waifus

>>16488629

muh brithrates man. also there was some heavy crackdown on yakuza in recent years so their numbers dwindled

>>16489499

You just got spoiled with 0's sheer variety. Never expect the games to hold up to 0, it's a losing prospect.

I went back to Kiwami 1 to compare a few things and I really shouldn't have done that. Kiryu's movement in Kamorucho may feel terrible compared to Kiwami 2 but holy shit, the combat is so much better. Punches have actual impact and for some reason even the heat actions feel better and more brutal. I hope Judge Eyes fixes the shitty combat system.

>>16489605

>also there was some heavy crackdown on yakuza in recent years

Oh really? I wonder why that is.

>>16489586

He's a retarded projecting cuckchanner probably, just ignore him.

>>16488531

>I can't beat bowling in Yakuza 0

<stand all the way to the right, then 2 small ticks left

<use heaviest ball

<aim slightly left of the center pin with max power

I got almost a perfect 300 using that method

>>16489647

>I hope Judge Eyes fixes the shitty combat system.

Some of the heat moves are outright copy-paste of ones in 6, and by extension probably Kiwami 2, so I wouldn't count on it.

They should have started with a spin-off game to develop their new engine rather than a mainline game and a big remake.

>>16489647

The combat is, at the very least, fresh and fun once you get used to it. If it was just as responsive as the previous games then I'd have no gripes. I'm also a little disappointed that they took out the different styles and how easy it is to kill enemies. Seriously, I can finish street fights in a matter of a few seconds just by throwing enemies.

Man idk, I'm just not liking Kiwami 2 nearly as much as 0 or 1 so far. Admittedly I'm barely into the game (just completed Majima construction tutorial). While I'm glad they're trying to keep the grafx and combat fresh with the new engine, it just doesn't feel as good at all to me. It really just feels like a squishy, laggier brawler mixed with a little bit of dragon style. I can forgive the lack of options in comparison considering they're trying something new and will obviously build upon on this in future iterations, but what's there right now just isn't that great imo. Also the story, as well as the way the story is presented, just sucks total ass so far compared to the beginnings of 0 and Kiwami 1. Both of those sucked me in immediately and didn't let go until I finished the main game.

I'm sure it'll all get better as I get further along, but it just sucks that it seems to be missing the magic the previous two had right from the get go.

>>16490463

>I'm sure it'll all get better as I get further along

It doesn't. Sure, Kiryu gets better stats and more moves but the combat is just as bad fully upgraded as it is in the beginning. Story is about as weak as Kiwami's but Ryuji is much cooler than Nishiki.

> I can forgive the lack of options in comparison considering they're trying something new and will obviously build upon on this in future iterations

I honestly can't. This isn't their first Dragon game engine and all the glaring faults that 6's combat had are still there. Kiwami 2 is either a rushed game or they didn't even try.

>>16483779

the typical sort of ordering is 0>5>Kiwami>4>3>2>1>Kiwami 2>6>Dead Souls

>>16490539

I'd put it like this

0>4>2>5=Kiwami>1>3>Kiwami 2>6

>>16485668

>I'd rather have a Saejima game

I'd rather have a game where you play as Old Man Kazama, walk around late 50's/early 60's/1970's Japan gunning down dog shit Koreans and chilling with Kashiwagi. Around the midway point get little Kiryu and Nishiki as hangers on, like Haruka Only this time you're the one who killed their parents. Have the Amon of the game be your bio-luminescent Central Intelligence Negro brother.

>>16490463

>not liking Kiwami 2 nearly as much as 0 or 1

>or 1

Kiwami 1 plays like a bad dlc of Zero. The issue with 2, is that Zero was originally built from the mold of the original 2, hence Sotenbori.

>>16490738

Let's call it Yakuza Twin Dragons, it's all about the two Kazama brothers split between honor and law. Orphanage is the main minigame. Shimano, Kuze and Kashiwagi playable characters.

>>16489586

I don't spoonfeed newfags, I laugh at them. So you're aware to keep down the leet keed antics.

>>16490838

First off, my ideal Yakuza game would be a spin-off, or at least it wouldn't take place in Kamurocho except maybe the final few or first few chapters. I'm completely fucking burned out of that place. It would also of course feature a completely new main cast as well.

Next up: Fix the combat in the Dragon engine so it isn't as sluggish, I fucking swear Yakuza 1's combat feels better than Dragon engine sometimes.

Don't make the main character a cuck, get him a qt through the story that he actually attains in the end. Someone like Kaoru who's a frigid hardass at first but then gives in to the power of the main character's pure masculinity would be IDEAL! Just don't make her completely disappear afterwards.

When it comes to combat, have multiple styles, at least three. I miss Tanimura's style from 4. Also, despite it being shit I like the idea behind Shinada's unarmed style in 5 where it's based around grappling, so in a perfect scenario one of the styles would be based around parrying, countering and grappling, the second one would utilize weapons and would allow stuff like mid-combo weapon switching and shit like that. The third one would be the bog standard jack-of-all-trades striking-based style. In that respect it would be a good idea to make the weapons that you would craft that also utilize the weapons-based style unbreakable, while weapons that don't utilize it or you find in the environment or pick up from defeated foes would be breakable.

When it comes to story, as long as there's no muh rubber bullets or muh secret battleship or muh orphan-hating CIA nigger black project terrorist arms dealers it's fine, I don't really have anything in mind myself.

When it comes to side content, just put in the standard fare, despite the fact that I hate a lot of the minigames, namely baccarat, mahjong, shogi, pool, I'd still put them in the game. When it comes to the arcade games, put in more stuff and make it more varied. Put a fighting game (VF is a must), a shmup, a beatemup, whatever, as long as it's not just 1 or 2 games and the crane game it's fine. When it comes to a minigame with a story just don't make it mobage-tier garbage and it's fine. Kind of weird to think that hunting and taxi driving from 5 were the best in that regard since they weren't just glorified clickers. Also, make it so that you can unlock multiple possible tag partners for the coliseum and more importantly BRING BACK the special tournament that only Yakuza 3 had where after you beat the game you can fight all of the main game bosses in a tournament on demand.

Reading the last two pages of that special k thread, and god special-k guy is such an arrogant, passive aggressive cunt.

>>16491851

How's his "fix" coming along?

>>16491867

Lots and lots of whining from him about how he can't do this or that until QLOC fixes stuff so who really knows. You can turn off most of the DoF which is nice and does legitimately make the game look a lot better, but it also hurts my performance. He also intentionally created a memory leak in his newest update to "prevent crashes", but I've literally only ever had crashes when using his mod. It also drops my FPS to fucking HALF of what I otherwise get, so honestly I'd much rather have crashes than that shit… and again, I don't even get crashes without his mod to begin with.

If you have a beefy GPU and you're well past 60 or 120fps at your desired settings already, then yeah it's cool for getting rid of DoF. Otherwise it tends to hurt more than it helps. I was originally going to use it to cap at 30fps since in Kamurocho I regularly dip below 60, but I quickly realized that I would honestly much rather have erratic and unlocked than an always choppy looking 30fps.

>>16491966

I see, so my assumption that daytime has much worse performance than night time because it didn't have DoF was right. Seems like QLOC fucked up pretty badly.

>>16492006

Well, to me it kind of makes sense that blurring everything more than 10 feet away would be less taxing on hardware than properly rendering and filtering it all on screen. I'm definitely not a whiz at this stuff though, so I'm assuming it's all in how the developers choose to implement DoF though imo DoF is always gross/ugly just like bloom. My gut feeling is this was a legitimate attempt on Sega's end to optimize the dragon engine as best they could on console rather than anything specifically added by QLOC for the PC port, but I could definitely be wrong.

>>16492096

Although, I guess it's pretty strange there's no DoF in the daytime if that were the case…

>>16492111 (check'd)

>I imagine the character would be more about his personal sense of honor rather than feeling obligated to help others like we see in Y2, he'd do good by others but for entirely selfish reasons

That's pretty much the gist of his character in Y2, or to be precise the relationship between Kiryu and Ryuji in Y2 is all about how they're a mirror image of each other when it comes to their strong sense of honor and explores how differently they interpret and at the end of it all act on it.

>>16492221

He looks like a character from SSX tricky.

At the part where the police are out to arrest Date for murder based on the surveillance footage. You'd think they'd notice the complete lack of muzzle flash coming from his gun, but I guess maybe the idea is that the capturing camera is low fps/resolution and they just assume it wasn't caught on tape for that reason, but idk. So far the story just isn't interesting at all, I feel like I'm missing something. Also went from feeling underpowered to overpowered REALLY freaking fast.

>>16492450

Story is pretty bad as always.

>>16492590

tfw can't buy games, tfw this is one I'd buy

fug

>>16492594

I feel you m8, being poor sucks. At least you have your heart in the right place.

>>16492602

jacking off ten times a day and likingh furry porn while being an okay-ish person?

>>16492629

m8 I get horny every fucking day MANY times a day. I'd relax when I worked jerking off two times before work, I'd only NOT jer koff if I had a bad migraine

codes for Kiwami 1/2 here?

>>16492732

I'll take kiwami 2

>>16492743

?sane tbh so it is ded tbh

>>16492818

K1 > Zero, to be honest. Zero has some very cool plot lines and moments, but overall it is kind of a boring game with very little gameplay to be had. Playing it after K1 really made it clear to me how little fighting there is in Zero. And no matter how cool things in Zero can get sometimes, it ends up being too little of a game. The cool part really kind of only being the Kuze plotline, with the highlight being the ride on the Dojima house in the very beginning of the story. There was not nearly enough cuhrazy. The game didn't escalate in the proper way. It was kind of a disappointing considering the exaggerated bubble era crazy in a wacky, yet cool way story it was implying to be at first.

>>16483331

>>16483390

I'm currently in my K2 playthrough, and charge attacks are overpowered. I think you were missing the fact that you can charge those attacks during animations.

>Heavy charge attack usually misses, but light charge attack staggers a ton and is a great counter to that block-while-mid-combo annoyance.

The stagger is what makes the heavy charge useful. Once an enemy starts blocking part of the light combo, I can have a light charge attack queued for the next attack, and by time the enemy is about to recover from the stagger, the heavy charge hits. It almost feels like cheating comboing light to heavy charge, because you can just bait an attack, light charge a stagger, and heavy charge for a huge chunk of hp, and by the time they can get up, you can already have a light charge swinging.

>>16493622

> I don't know why

Because he's a legitimate challenge, good job anon.

>>16486941

>>16486963

>>16487881

The interviewer is one of the chosen people.

>>16494525

I know, the funniest part is where the Yakuza asks the interviewer something along the lines of "You're CIA, right?" and the Jew replies that he's Mossad and then the Yakuza says "Same thing".

>>16494707

https://please use archive.is.com (use archive.is)/2010/08/10/yakuza-3-review.html

This is pretty hilarious.

>>16494719

>(((Jake Adelstein)))

Isn't this that kike who keeps shilling brown invasion for Zipangu?

>>16494256

everytime I was fighting him my inventory got bugged so I could no beat him

>>16484521

I'm trying to do the same right now but playing Mahjong makes me want to McFuckingKillMyself, how the fuck do I beat this shit?

>>16496337

I explained what I did to get though the Mahjong CP here, >>16472816 and it seemed to help the anon I replied to.

There was also this Mahjong guide this anon posted here >>16477922

but you know 3 hours of learning Mahjong might be a little much.

Man, I just don't want to play Kiwami 2 for whatever reason. Maybe I should just put it on the backburner for now and maybe come back to it when I'm actually desperate for some Yakuza. Out of curiosity, how much of the main story do I have left? I just got to the part where the florist's son wants me to find out if his gurf is cheating on him.

>>16496469

Like 50% but the only good thing about the story is the finale.

>>16496469

Seems to be a common thing with kiwami 2. I bought the ps4 version when it came out and for whatever reason I couldn't even force myself to play it.

>>16496480

Well that's good at least.

>>16496485

Weird, interesting it's not just me then.

>>16496469

>>16496485

I don't know if you fags played Yakuza 6 but I had the same feeling of it and Kiwami 2 feeling like a slog. I think it's the combat, it just feels so much worse compared to the combat of pretty much all the older engines, especially Kiwami 1 where they fine-tuned style switching from 0 to such a degree where after you fully upgrade Kiryu the game starts feeling like a cuhrayzee, if you've got the skills like me you'll especially see this in your Legend difficulty playthrough where you're just styling all over every enemy, doesn't matter if it's a boss or a mob, and taking none or few hits in the process. The combat in the Dragon engine games just feels slow like molasses, it's like Kiryu suddenly put lead weights on his arms and legs.

Yet somehow I managed to slog through it and not only beat the game on Legend, but also do all the sidestories so I can abuse the Amon clan.

>>16496469

It could be just a little bit of burn out, I Beat the PS2 Yakuza 1 and 2, then played the shit out of Yakuza 0 when it came out on PC, so when Kiwami 1 came out I stopped playing fairly early on, and then I picked it up again when Kiwami 2 was announced, now I went though Kiwami 1 and i'm good keep playing allot more Kiwami 2.

About the Clan Creator I didn't realize that Package in the hideout was going to just dump everything without me being able to say yes or no, so now I have all these super/super/rare characters, should I try ignoring them or should I just use them anyway.

>>16496583

Just use 'em to get that garbage mobage-tier minigame out and done with sooner rather than later.

>>16496583

Use them all

The minigame is ass, they only soothe the pain somewhat.

>>16496591

>>16496596

Alright, it's no harm then.

The Cabaret Club is the true bad ass shit I play Yakuza for anyway

lmao I can't believe this actually works.

>>16496942

Not too much of a surprise I'm sure tons of fighting games are bound to have that one move that the AI just can't deal with.

Years ago I was able to beat Vanilla Street Fight 4 on the hardest difficulty doing nothing but Spam Zangief's Double Lariat over and over. The AI had no idea how to avoid it.

>>16496620

The hair isn't quite as nice and the smile isn't translating very well from 2D. Plus he has a few more wrinkles than he should.

A good deal of the yakuza enjoyment comes from these threads and the suffering that mahjong induces in anons. I can't either.

>>16497288

>>16497112

Well if the rules for Mahjong are the same across all the games then Kiwami 2 shows that if you get 3 suits of 1&9 1 of all 4 Winds and the 3 Dragons you summon Mahjong's equivalent of Fucking Exodia.

That's what the Cheat Item Peerless tile gives you so I'm assuming thats pretty much the ultimate Mahjong hand, I haven't tested this yet beyond beating the substory just like Vid related does. But in theroy if you just ignore everything about Mahjong except getting that hand of 1's, 9's, Winds, and Dragons, then you can just instantly win the whole table regardless of how every other round went.

>>16492450

That's because everyone is super corrupt and Kiryu & Majima are the only pure things in entire world because they are playable characters.

>>16496583

Those are cheats, Majima Construction is to be beaten later in the campaign when sidequests have given you several SR characters with strong abilities.

Ignore the faggots ITT who only care about filling a percentage instead of enjoying the game, they're just bazingas in denial.

>>16496566

>especially Kiwami 1 where they fine-tuned style switching from 0

Look at this morbid idiot and laugh. He couldn't even notice how they butchered Zero's styles in that cheap budget game that is Kiwami 1.

>>16492818

>Based off these threads the only good Yakuza games are 5

Wait until you get to the retarded baseball plot and realize that getting opinions from edgy teens spells ruin.

>>16498558

Someone in K2 actually references that side-quest with some dialogue about Ryuji stealing pants.

>>16499101

It's a shame Ryuji didn't get more screentime, he was such a cool character.

>>16499184

I would, if I had a Bloodbornestation.

>>16499214

Oh wait, the PS4 isn't backwards compatible but it doesn't matter since I don't have a PS3 either.

>>16499216

I wonder if that has any chance of getting a PC port?

>>16499272

I doubt any of the spin-offs would. Though it would be nice for the two samurai ones.

That said PS3 emulation is getting better and better. There probably PCs that can already run Yakuza in silky smooth 30fps.

>>16499272

It is most likely the main line games will all come to PC first, then after 6 Ishin or Kenzan could happen. at least they got a mention when there was that Yakuza online Servery asking if people would be interested in seeing those games come west side, I assume Dead Souls would be the lowest priority, but at the same time it's already translated so it would be a little less effort then Kenzan or Ishin.

>>16499286

>I doubt any of the spin-offs would.

The head of the Sega localization team said that he'd really like to bring Ishin and Kenzan to the west but can't because there are so many new Yakuza games on his backlog.

>>16499314

To the West is not the same as to PC.Other than Judge Eye, if we count as "new Yakuza game", there is nothing else. Well, I guess other than the PSP and mobile games, but they are never coming.

>>16499323

>To the West is not the same as to PC

So far we've gotten Yakuza 0, Yakuza Kiwami and Kiwami 2. We'll most likely be getting 3,4,5 HD too but they're not localized yet, I don't see why Sega would say no to free money.

>>16499323

>Other than Judge Eye, if we count as "new Yakuza game", there is nothing else

Forgot to say something, he did that interview back when 6 and Kiwami 2 weren't even out yet. So back then they had 6, Kiwami 2 and I assume they were also preparing to work on Judge Eyes and HnK Lost Paradise.

>>16499184

it's crazy how Kiryu's ass beating made Ryuji age 30 years in 3

>>16474779

I started with 6>0>kiwami1>kiwami2

Nonetheless Idk if starting with 6 was a good idea, I still am a huge fan of the series nonetheless

>>16492884

>K1 > Zero

I completely disagree with that. I didn't enjoy a single bossfight in the entirety of yakuza k1. Did you seriously enjoy the jingu bossfight? or the one with the two brothers at the dance club? Seriously, fights in k1 fucking suck. The story is a-ok but again, 0 has better minigames, real estate and sunshine were awesome while k1 just has the same minigames as 0 without any kind of added value. I loved k1 but afaic 0 is way better.

>>16504678

Jingu was definitely easy for me, though, but maybe you are not complaining about it being too "bullshitty". Though I do admit guns are no-fun and of course K1 did have some other bad gameplay relics. Sure maybe overall not the most enjoyable bosses possible, but Zero had like two bosses that I maybe really enjoyed so it is whatever boss-wise there too.The Zero bosses maybe felt like they were cooler plot-wise, at least some of them, but there wasn't enough gameplay-wise either.

The thing about K1 > Zero is that K1 actually has proper video game levels. There is actually some game design and progression inside the levels themselves. Zero is more of a product of modern times. Even longer cut scenes and no proper gameplay pay off after them. The gameplay was either annoying stealth sections, short space-contained fights or just the mobs from around the city while you go form A to B. And even the mobs in K1 felt a lot more fun, probably mostly because of the styles, though. I don't see why some people claim K1's fighting styles are worse. Sure, Dragon is overpowered, but the other three definitely felt like there was more meaning to all of them and changing styles to fit the situation matters, though you can just change it to whatever feels fun and they all were fun in their own way. In Zero Rush and Beast felt a lot more pointless to use. From what I remember, and I do admit my memory seems lacking about Zero's combat, other than overall feeling I was left with, Rush had like no damage and no use basically. Beast was just too clunky with not enough payoff. Brawler really was the best of the two worlds and just did most of the job better. Majima perhaps had a little more variety. Spin on the ground for mobs, or beat bosses with the bad, or sometimes maybe it was better to spin on them too. Sunshine was just very bland and the real estate is click on everything to upgrade for like 5 minutes and then wait 10 minutes to do it again, absolutely no gameplay at all. Just a way to get money, but in a very non-interactive way. Sure there were some bosses to fight, but they weren't worth the not fun grind.

Don't get me wrong, Zero has its moments, but as I said, they didn't explore nearly enough the cuhrazy side of the plot through gameplay. It is not a surprise most people mention the Dojima house rush in the beginning and that's it. Almost everything else is just kind of bland, except a few moments. There is nothing else that feels quite the same.

>>16504776

Beast was actually fucking stupid good in 0, you could do all of the Ultimate Battles which are boss rushes with just Beast and using its super armor to just power through everything (except for Sera)

Similarly, the bear hug? Just goddamn, in 0 when fully upgraded it's the easiest way of bringing the shakedown to Mr. Shakedown without any weapon cheese, or at least until you get both of the grabs you do from Beast's advanced running guard. The bear hug just wrecks anyone's health bar, with going as far as shaving off a whole health bar if you do it with all the damage upgrades. Then as Mr. Shakedown is getting his lumbering ass up while recovering from that bear hug you just gave him, you hit him with the other grab from running guard, you know the shitty one that barely even does damage by comparison, but you have to do it since the bear hug requires 3rd heat? Yeah, that one fills that heat bar up to 3rd heat right as it connects. Then you just keep alternating the bear hug and the shitty grab.

Rush however was fucking shit in 0.

>>16504792

I am trying to remember how I played with Kiryuu, but I really can't, which implies to me I was probably just button smashing with Brawler, because it was effective and nothing else was fun enough to make me stop. One of the things that might hurt my view of Zero is the upgrades. I really don't remember what they even were. Just that half of them were closed until you do the character specific side quests. Even more, the money system was shit. You might think these two factors will encourage you to explore the side quests more, but does it really? If you think about it is actually a very forced way to make you interested in the rest of the game. It is not much different than the new AssCreed games, not that I have played them, where your are forced to do side shit, or pay money, to level up so you can actually do the main story. Not because the side quests are inherently fun to do. Except of course the default Brawler is good enough as it is, so I don't feel compelled to even explore to unlock the half of the tree that is locked. If you can call doing the specific side quest lines exploring. I mostly just stuck to the main game until I finished it, which doesn't encourage you to try the side quests/minigames. They two parts of the game feel very separate, maybe because everything in the main game feels urgent, every single thing. Like, there is a lot less space between missions, there is always the plot pressure to run to the next cut scene, because there is constant urgency. I am not sure if it is that alone, I think there were gameplay reasons too, but in K1 it was a lot more natural for me to go do side quests. It didn't feel weird to go do so. People say how the characters that are our protagonists in the side quests are very much the same people as the ones in the main quests, which makes it feel natural for them to be even in the goofiest side quests. But with the urgency in Zero and always being chased or having to chase, it feels weird to stop to do random stuff. It becomes sort of out of character. While K1 let's you have breathing time in which it feels natural to do. Like a main game quest art is finished by the end of the chapter, or there even different smaller arcs in a single chapter. And perhaps there was more of "oh I just finished this main quest arc and hey, there is a fun side quest right in front me" and that leads to another and another one. Somehow perhaps this was missing in Zero. Zero meanwhile just tries to force you play several side quests, if you want to unlock the style trees, and one of them is the worst minigame there is. Now I also remember that overall the way Zero presents the side quests to you perhaps was a lot more heavy-handed. Like for example the fat rich guy. You find him in the middle of the supposed main quest, just to open a new side quest that has nothing to do with the main quest. And you unlock throwing money. Or how the game forces you to do the Chinese restaurant tutorial. Or again forces you through the main game to do even Sunshine and real estate. It just pretends it is going to continue the main story quest, but forcefully shove side quests in your face. In K1 you just kind of stumble into things and it feels way more natural. You can miss, I think every single mini game, the game allows you to do that. The game gives you a break, you see something fun and find out more fun stuff on your own. Or you can ignore them if you want, but it is fun, so you rarely do. K1 felt having a lot more variety to me, because the game is a lot more natural to entertain you with side quests between main quests. The game doesn't force them on you, they don't leave a bad taste or feel like the game is trying to distract you. In K1 everything just felt more natural.

>>16504977

>>16504792

Back to the styles. In K1 you unlock your abilities naturally as you progress the story, or just do about anything. But the fighting styles actually felt fun from the very start, or maybe it was quick to do a few upgrades that made them fun to use. Can't remember which one it is, but maybe that's exactly because even it had negatives they weren't as memorable. Other than Dragon style. Dragon was locked behind a boring quest line and I never enjoyed the style too much anyway. Though actually fighting in the coliseum was fun. It is the unlocking quests itself that sucked. People say "oh lol, you lose everything you had in Zero at the start of K1 and have to upgrade to it". But in Zero you don't even have all the fighting styles from the star and half of them are locked behind boring shit to try and force you do the boring shit, but it is boring and you don't really need the upgrades, so it fails even at that. Again, I can't even remember what you even unlock in Zero. Meanwhile in K1 it was fun to even do "beat 50 guys, beat 200 guys" shit, because the combat just felt joyful, it was just another reason to switch up fun things with fun thing.

Sorry for rambling, jumping from topic to topic and repeating myself a few times, I think. I am sure the quality of my writing also drops like this, but I can't help it. Might sound like I am hating Zero, but I am not. I just don't think it reached the potential it had. I can't look at it and see the magnum opus of Yakuza.

>>16505649

majima chan guy is scary af.

>>16505649

Okay, let's copy you.

<combat

>Dragon

No one would really deny that Dragon is broken, compared to everything else, but as I mentioned in my previous post Dragon shares the bullshit of Zero, where you have to do a very boring side quest. Sure the Kiwami system is shit, but it is bearable, except the two or so bosses and later Majima Everywhere that require the Dragon Kiwami finisher. Beyond the skills I got here and there, because of Majima Everywhere, I never did the Dragon side quest chain until after the end of the main story. So I really never used Dragon either. Maybe that's just me, but it is boring shit, so I didn't bother with it. The enemies refilling their health bars doesn't take as long as doing the boring side quest. Plus, you can stop the bar healing by using just any other heat action. For example, I would fight Nishiki near the furniture and just grab a chair or whatever and fuck him up. Problem solved.

Except in Zero every style had the bullshit side quest related to it to unlock the other half of it. And also the fact you have to play (wait) the stupid real estate game to get the money for the upgrades.

>Beast

I guessed I missed the combo attack from Zero with it, but just because it has some overpowered attack does it make it better as in fun to use? The Dragon counter is not super fun. Though I actually sort of remember using hugs somewhere, so maybe I did abuse the attack at some point. Beast works great against mobs in K1. It is fun beating their shit in away I don't remember experience in Zero. Kind of cheap perhaps to say I don't remember why, but as I said earlier I sort of remember it just being a lot clumsier and make it kind of pointless compared to Brawler for any situation. And I definitely used my fair share of Beast in the coliseum of K1, meaning 1vs1 fights too.

>Rush

Sure, Rush is a beast in K1, especially against bosses. I definitely don't think it has the highest DPS, though, without even considering Dragon counters. Rush makes it very easy to not get hit, but I am pretty sure the other two styles kill faster, but they are slower and mistakes can get you heavily beaten by a combo, so are de facto harder to use/master.

<Draining your whole heat for something unimpressive

Sure, stupid.

<Kiwami

Though I did mention it above, let me talk more about it. Yeah, it is stupid and it interprets the battle and it is kind of pointless with how easy it is to counter. I really see it as a bad QTE. And though I have yet to play K2 (for more than the first two hours), I guess they upgraded the QTE to a bit more interesting one with people throwing items to help you. Though I can imagine it can be repetitive.

<story

I mean, sure, but Nishiki is not much in Zero either and I really didn't care about most of the drama, nor the "what a twist"s, in Zero either. I personally would have liked more stuff like Kuze, but even he wasn't always that good.

<side quest content

Never argued about quality, nor quantity. Though in my head right now I can't really point out which was Zero and which was K1 even, so I can't argue too much about quality. I would think it is about the same. But perhaps K1 uses more of the side quests from the original, which is what makes it feel worse for you. But what I talked about in my previous posts was how the side quests were positioned to the rest of the world in both games.

<Mr. Shakedown

As much as I think Majima Everywhere is overdone as hell, I don't think Mr. Shakedown is more interesting opponent to face. And he is not even suppose to be the main source of income. It is the real estate. His farming method is an oversight.

<economy

Excuse me, you always have enough in Zero? I guess if you bother with the boring money making aspects of the game. But because upgrading skills is the de facto money sink, it sinks your money to upgrade stuff. If you just do the main story and the occasional side quest or two, but decide to get a new skill your money are gone. In K1 they are two different currencies, so you don't have that problem. Admittedly perhaps it makes both aspects a bit trivial. At least my experience in K1 was that I always had much more money that I needed and eventually you can't use experience points for anything.

<my points

My posts were very rambling and not structured at all, so I don't blame you for not addressing many of my points, but there are there and I think you can agree probably with at least some of them, maybe even more.

I guess we are sort of just arguing which one of two relatively good games is more flawed. And perhaps we are both biased in aspects because of the way we played them and got to experience them.

>>16505915

> I think you can agree probably with at least some of them, maybe even more.

No, but I can agree with you on that Kiwami is a fun game and I wish Kiwami 2 had the same level of quality.

Quick heads up, if you're a good goy and own Kiwami 2 on (((Steam))) there's a beta branch update up now.

Improvements:

• Added an option to lock FPS in Graphics Settings. (Options are 30, 60, 120 and Uncapped.)

• Added an option to enable/disable Depth of Field in Graphics Settings.

• Added more options to Anti-Aliasing in Graphic Settings.

• Added a control to fast skip dialogues with Right Bumper + A button / R1 + X button/ SPACE + E keys.

Bug fixes:

• Fixed an issue where save data descriptions can disappear.

• Fixed an issue where incorrect prompt can be displayed during combat using a keyboard and mouse.

• Fixed an issue where pressing Alt + Tab keys didn't pause the game in Cabaret Club.

• Fixed a button/key prompt mismatch issue in Batting Center.

• Fixed minor mouse control issues in several minigames.

• Fixed minor UI bugs.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/927380/discussions/0/1653297026032211510/

>>16506059

Optimization be fucked, I guess. Not that I expected anything. At least we are not getting another Yakuza game in the Dragon engine on the PC for a while. If they will continue with the chronological order that is.

>>16506071

It took Sega like 3 months to properly optimize Kiwami 1.

>>16506078

I guess I was able to run it at 4k from the start so I didn't notice. Expect if you are not confusing what I mean by optimization.

>>16506059

>if you buy good japanese games you're a good goy

He thinks exchanging memes in a containment board will save gaming. Vote with your wallet, famichu.

>>16504678

Kiwami was his first Yakuza game, that's the only rational explanation to someone so retarded to prefer it to Zero.

>>16506273

It was actually Yakuza, but okay.

>>16506264

The purchases of everyone on the whole site wouldn't save gaming. At the very least I rented the games from a different source than Steam directly, because fuck Steam.

>>16506304

I would think he guessed you would own the game, because it would be a bit weird to be stalking the forums for updates or perhaps you would have at least begged someone to upload the beta version so you can play it too. He just likes to make his statement of change in the world.

>>16506446

the ultimate button mashing technique is to hold your entire arm rigid, tense it up, and shake it so your thumb keeps rapping the button.

>>16507542

I'v seen that technique but I can't real do it. My method is to get the nail of my index finger and run it back and forth over the button. I read about that method when I needed to do the torture sequence in MGS1, and It's worked like a charm for any button mashing i'v ever needed to do since.

>>16471203

Alright, I can reliably win Mahjong in Kiwami 1 now, but just how the fuck do I get a Full Straight? Are there any tips or is it just completely luck based?

>>16506264

I guess Kiryu isn't the only person in the Yakuza universe who simply doesn't age.

>>16506318

>>16506303

>>16506304

Gotta love the contradictory statements from the memekids. Neither dared to deny the accusations, each employed a different dissimulation tactic: it was a joke, feigning oldfag, pretending nothing matters (cheap nihilism).

Shut up, millennials. Learn to stand up and speak honestly for once.

>>16511872

Every day I give praise to Jesus, for I am not stricken with autism as crippling as this.

>>16516896

>the elitist kid cucked by the great remakes who still can't give up on pretending the originals were better

Find another reason to live, anon. Pretending to be leet retro with PS2 games is absolete desperation.

>>16516923

>the fighting in Yakuza 1 sucks ass

Most of that comes down to the fact that lock-on barely works and Kiryu doesn't auto-correct himself when attacking someone which causes half your combo to whiff if Kiryu isn't facing his opponent 100% dead on when you started the combo. It says a lot when the most useful technique you learn from Komaki in 1 are the combo enders which make Kiryu turn.

Interestingly enough Kenzan has a similar problem, but it only occurs if you attack someone while locking onto them, if you don't lock on the facing auto-corrects like you'd expect it to, in fact the auto-correct for the dual sword style is so good that you can catch enemies who are evading with it.

Gematsu copy-paste:

Yakuza series general director Toshihiro Nagoshi shared more tidbits on the new Yakuza game starring Ichiban Kasugabergsteinowitz for PlayStation 4 during the latest Sega-Nama broadcast, as well as a few additional comments on PlayStation 5. Here are the details:

Regarding the New Yakuza Game Starring Ichiban Kasuga

The story is finally done.

We’re now in the recording stages, and most of the main parts are recorded.

This time is going to be amazing as well. There are some unexpected people cast that are sure to surprise people.

I was surprised with how much these casts fit in their roles.

The new protagonist, Ichiban Kasuga, talks way more than Kiryu, and has (((different motivations))) for his actions. Therefore the overall feeling of the story is different, as well as the gameplay. It feels fresh in many ways. I really want to share more soon. Its tough but development has been smooth.

PlayStation 5

Even after PlayStation 5 is released, I think PlayStation 4 is going to be the main focus for a while longer.

The processing power of PlayStation 5 is incredible, so when we try to think of new gameplay that will utilize its full potential, I’m not really sure which aspects of existing mechanics we should translate.

First there was a time when graphics improved, then there was network features, and now I guess you can say its a return to the “programmable” era? I think artificial intelligence and machine learning will continue to evolve.

If you would pour its power into graphics it’ll be the best that we’ve yet to see, and I think everyone is thinking about in what way we should use that power. I as well. There’s artificial intelligence and many other things I want to think about.

>>16506304

>someone actually thinks about AI in gaming

>in Yakuza of all games

Still, it makes me happy.

>>16518540

>Kasugabergsteinowitz

oh no

>>16518578

Yeah that was pretty surprising.

Gonna start Yakuza 0 right now, have only played 5 before. I hope it's as good or better.

>>16508727

>tfw discovering her after finishing up the club storyline

Oh well

Was legitimately happy they included her in another game though

Well looks like chinks didn't take too kindly to Lao Gui in Yakuza 0, in the Chinese version he's replaced with the Hong-Kong actor Sam Lee.

For what it's worth it's not too bad of a change.

>>16520496

Kiwami and Kiwami 2 with their archaic PS2 animations completely made me forget how good Yakuza cutscenes actually can be.

>>16508286

Just grab a pen and use the back of it.

>>16520531

>Why did they change it anyway

To market in China. Lao Gui wasn't based on anyone so they took the opportunity to base his model off of a popular chinese actor for the chinese release

Just reposting this Judge Eyes review

https://www.frontlinejp.net/2018/12/20/review-judge-eyes-shinigami-no-yuigon/

>>16520911

Kiwami explains Nishiki's arc well. He was set to fail by competitive underwater shogi champion and gokudou Jesus Kazama because he needed Kiryu to become Nishiki's enemy so that he could become chairman and then abdicate to a undercover Jingweon so that after a plan that took 20 years to unfold, this gook mole would go limp on the last second just to tell Kiryu that Kazama was always cool by him. Now that's how you keikaku.

I see that the new hot meme from 4chan, is to hype Yakuza 5. Seriously, niggers? At the time, everyone was belittling it as a collection of bad minigames with the worst plot after 3.

I guess the closeted normalfags on this board are just too thirsty for weeb hipster points, that anything they can't easily get becomes an idealized masterpiece.

>>16521004

Nishiki's downfall is not far fetched, in theory. So there's no need to explain why Michael Corleone can becomes a ruthless mafia boss, when life forces his hand.

The problem is that Yakuza 1 and Kiwami didn't tell the story properly. Writing's not up to the challenge. First, Kiryu's exile of 10 years lasts 10 minutes of in game time, so you feel no weight to this traumatic separation. Second, there is no culture shock when Kiryu goes back to Kamurocho: the town should have been as different, as the relationship between the characters. What few is there, doesn't raise much of an eyebrow.

>>16521010

I've never owned a PS3, so I haven't had the chance to play any Yakuza games past 2 yet. The only thing I know about 5 is that Kiryu apparently beats up an entire clan (again), that it has 3 protagonists, that it's apparently absolute aids to 100% and that it was the first game in the series with cucked gore. In general, violence in Yakuza is something I will never understand. 1&2 have very little gore which is understandable considering how old they are, 3&4 have fantastic gore, 5 has no gore, Kenzan also has no gore, Ishin in insanely brutal and even has bullet wounds, 6 has bruises and blood again but no more broken noses, 0 has no gore, Kiwami has no gore, Kiwami 2 has no gore and Judge Eyes has no gore either. Did they not localize 6 in (into) Chinese or something?

>>16521153

It doesn't have 3 protagonists, it has 5. You're got Kiryu, Saejima and Akiyama returning, Haruka becoming playable in an exciting section of the game where literally all you do is play rhythm minigames. Then there is the new character Shinada whose whole character can be explained by Akiyama's introduction of him to the rest of the group: "He knows Daigo". He's been put into the game because Tanimura's actor left show business due to some drug scandal or whatever. I will give his section one thing though - despite having barely any relevance to the overall plot until Daigo tells him exactly where to go, who to meet and what to do in the end of his chapter, it really shows how kiked the sports industry is, here it specifically shows Japanese baseball, but pretty much every sport that's big in a country and can be thus easily commercialized is just as kiked. Without spoiling too much, the game ends with the dumbest big twist yet and the last boss looks like he confused as to how he even got to be the last boss. And yeah, the game is bloated with new minigames, every character for some reason absolutely needed to have 2 new minigames and it included things like chicken racing and snowball fighting.

>>16521231

>5 protagonists

>Haruka is one of them

Jesus Christ, is Shinada at least fun to play as?

>>16521245

No, Shinada is shit. He is based around using weapons and if you know Yakuza, you know it's not at all expedient to use weapons all the time due to the fact that even the most shit-tier weapons are too expensive to have to repair all the fucking time. Well, except for 0 because amounts like a million yen to repair your high end gear mean fucking nothing in that game. To a lesser extent Kiwami 2 due to how much money you can quickly rack up in the hostess club minigame. You do get 4 or 5 weapons which have infinite use, but their damage is pathetic and you'll only end up using them to do heat actions as they're still as damaging as ever, doesn't matter if you use the pathetic infinite use katana or the Masamune blade. His hand to hand style is based on doing grappling, which is a cool idea, but in the end it's poorly implemented since after a while bosses and coliseum opponents just start instantly breaking your grabs and his overall moveset is quite limited so he ends up being a one trick pony where you do the light, heavy, grab ender combo over and over again because it's his best, similar to how after a while the only thing you do with Saejima is his triple charged finisher, but at least Saejima running through someone like a truck is more fun to look at.

>>16521267

Why didn't they just give him an infinite weapon like you have in Kenzan?

>>16521153

>0 has no gore

these people don't even play the games

>>16521316

As I said, they do give him a few infinite use weapons but they're absolute shit and only good for doing heat actions.

>>16521339

Fine, I take it back. You're still a fartknocker.

>>16521341

But why didn't they just give him style specific weapons like Majima's trusty bat that you have when using Slugger Style?

>>16521360

I don't know, I guess they just didn't figure out how to do it in a mainline game yet, that being said for all of the infinite use weapons he gets, he does have a unique moveset and heat actions that no other character has for those weapon types, so at least there's that. You have to understand that before 0 only Kenzan and Ishin had multiple styles and Ishin is the one which actually made all the 4 main styles actually useful, in Kenzan you effectively only have 2 styles - single and dual sword. Hand-to-hand is shit and only useful for grabbing enemies since weapon-wielding enemies can't counter throws and grabs are of course unblockable, greatsword is absolute fucking shit and only useful for destroying environmental hazards and armored enemies and you run into those two only in select story fights, and short sword is slightly less shit because at least it has a useful heat action which takes out 4 guys but is otherwise useless. In Ishin all the styles are at least useful in more general situations. Hand-to-Hand is best for countering and parrying, sword does the most damage and is good in pretty much all situations, gun is for when you don't want to play the game and just want to get a fight over with because enemies somehow can't handle a gun-toting player (for reference, you can block bullets with a sword, this rule also applies for enemies, most enemies use a sword but still can't react well to Ryoma's gun attacks) while sword and gun is a nimble style with wide sweeping attacks designed to damage more enemies at once at the expense of it having basically no defense.

>>16521432

I've heard that Ishin has the best combat in the series, is that true?

>>16521457

It is really good, but I still prefer 0's combat.

>>16522768

If we're lucky, yes.

https://youtu.be/5inbRvTcBRY?t=570

>>16522768

Maybe, I think they'd do it sooner for Ishin than Kenzan though, but maybe they'll do it for both of them at the same time.

Huh, I just noticed something (mildly) interesting. If you change Kiwami's language to Japanese, the text not only has a higher resolution but it also loads faster.

>>16524674

I had the same feeling about the "I peacocked your mom" line. Since the new localization team is known to put in epik maymays here and there I had to fire up the original right away to see what the line was and lo and behold it's taken straight from the original. I felt like an idiot for not remembering it.

>>16525479

"Peacocked your Mom" guy is as Iconic to the Yakuza series as Punk-Ass Abe

>>16525479

>epik maymays

Aside from a few side quests, the translation in 0 is actually a lot better than in the previous games.

The combat in Judge Eyes looks cool but I hate some of those heat actions. I had the same problem in Kiwami 2 as well, some heat actions just take way too long and lack a certain level of umph. Old pre-Dragon Engine games had less sophisticated heat actions but they had cool jump cuts that made them seem faster and I feel like they were more brutal as well. Just look at Majima's umbrella heat action or Kiryu's bat heat action in Dragon style while low on health. Sure they're long, but you don't see them that often and the editing is perfect. That's probably why my favorite heat action from Kiwami 2 still is the one you do on enemies on the ground. It's a simple hard punch to the face that lasts for like 2 seconds.

>>16526159

It's a case where too much of a good thing becomes bad. Heat actions were very simplistic, yet still very painful looking in Yakuza, then they gradually added more and more heat actions which became increasingly more brutal and complex until that brutality and complexity makes them just look flat-out cartoony and childish, making you feel like you're watching a slapstick comedy show. For example, in Judgment there is a heat action where Yagami breakdances by standing on his head and spinning like a jewish toy while also having his legs spread out, hitting bad guys with his spinning legs like he's a human beyblade. It just looks so dumb.

>>16526964

idk man, that sounds pretty sweet…

>>16527019

It is but it gets boring fast once you've seen it for the millionst time.

>>16537673

Finally a remake that's faithful to the original's visuals.