/v/ - Video Games

Figured some anons might be interested in the fact that the Prime World Editor (editor tools for the Metroid Prime games) has gone open source: https://github.com/arukibree/PrimeWorldEditor

>>16456234

Those lights make me fully erect

Also your brick textures normals are upside down

>>16456234

lmao you call this grimdark? not nearly edgy enough. far too bright. you are being far too liberal with the palette. overall 3/10 because at least you gave it a try.

>>16457632

I love when games do that. Can you give it a smooth fade?

>>16457852

Yep. And stairs need some transition too, maybe a quick fade to black and back.

Almost done making an Asteroids clone in Godot. Might do Tetris next. The plan is to make a minigame collection like WarioWare, see how many small games I can make by 8/8.

I'm concerned about how I set a black background by placing a ColorRect around the border of the screen. It seems like a hack solution, like I shouldn't need an extra node to just change the background color.

>>16455118

what the fuck does /agdg/ make pizza now?

>>16457226

Played your game last demoday did you address the input lag issue?

Should I go with Godot Engine or Monogame for 2D game dev? GameMaker Studio is shit and Unity's 2D is garbage so don't bother recommending those.

>>16458260

>a walking simulator

<would anyone be interested in playing this?

Ask Reddit. They'd probably Kickstart it.

>>16458260

>idea guy being idea guy

People who post their ideas asking if anyone is interested, if it's possible or whatever never ever complete whatever ideafagging they've imagined, no exceptions. You might as well give up and move on to something that you actually want to make and play. Or go to reddit

>>16458260

Since I don't know either example provided by anything more than by name, I don't know. You calling it a walking sim puts me off, but I'd play it simply because it's an /agdg/ game.

I guess you could go down the professional route and create a proper pitch, rather than "ideas guy: the post". Then we could decide whether there's something to it.

Just a thought …

lotsa work on the melee combat

added blocking

losing leg pieces makes you a manlet

ai can block and only blocks/dodges if being attacked by his enemy, not the closest pawn within a distance

attack animations push pawns away

weighed animation choices for the AI - block more, dodge less

>>16458209

was that only for the dodging? i made it accelerate a lot faster

as for the regular movement, i'm forcing the player to not use the navmesh now, not sure why i was doing that to begin with

>>16458290

True, no one ever makes anything good from asking "Would anyone play this?" because to me that says that you're not really interested in the idea. If it's a good idea and if you build it, people will come.

>>16457960

I'm fairly certain the default color to clear the screen with on frame update is configurable in the project settings.

>>16458565

for ui_right, instead of VELOCITY.x = SPEED use VELOCITY.x = max(SPEED, VELOCITY.x)

Same thing for ui_left, except with min instead of max.

Right now you're setting the speed to exactly 350 if a direction is pressed, so your dash only works if you'd release the direction key the next frame.

>>16458611

HOLY SHIT THANKS ANON

but could you explain what i did wrong sorry for responding to late my internet connection is shit at night

is SDL a bit bloated? or am i just thinking too hard

>>16458893

>how does if/else branch works, how come i can't think procedural?

think harder

>>16458945

It's the remake/reimagining/sequel to one of the only games 8/agdg/ has actually finished. Supposedly a team effort, but everyone except Kowloonanon is either busy, depressed, or possibly literally brain damaged.

>>16458962

What is the name? Link or magnets?

>>16458962

When the fuck did this happen? I stopped lurking this thread when every single one devolved into retards arguing over language preferences.

>>16458977

I'm starting to think that a few of the people in this thread aren't actually from around here.

>>16458990

Two years ago. A Teagan fangame got derailed into this turn-based QWOP clone about an autistic manlet doing…something.

>>16458998

>race war: the video game

More like "we gutted everything from a desert wandering and crow people trading simulator so it would fit in a short RPG Maker game jam project."

>>16458999

I dont usually lurk /agdg/ treads since I`m not into game developing. Tonight I was just bored and lurked a bit.

>>16458998

>Thanks, indie clique.

That's pretty gay. Makes me wonder if there's any possible way to start a studio without sucking dick to the clique without striking gold and becoming viral

>>16459000

Oh damn. I pop in from time to time and see the usuals, but this one completely slipped under my radar.

>>16459023

Right, sorry.

Is it normal to fail on absolutely everything and call it a day? I've been asking questions too, but peers don't answer

>>16460061

"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code." - Ken Thompson

You probably learned something today

>>16460123

That's great but this isn't the SS13 thread anon

>>16460136

fuggggggg I'll delete the post

>>16460164

That was actually hotwheels

>>16460196

I don't beleeb it.

>>16460217

The guy in the photo in my original post not backpack cuck

neat

but making items is gonna end up being a real pain, there's a ton of manual movements to have to be made to position the equipped/preview models correctly

>>16458945

Why shit on someone actually doing something and not being a nodev? /agdg/ in general has enough of those, if you don't like it just lurk or at least not be such an idiot. anon, don't shitpost as a response, please god just learn from this

>>16460561

oi doctard remind me what outline shader you use.

>>16460675

this http://xroft666.blogspot.com/2015/07/glow-highlighting-in-unity.html

more specifically this https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B63sRGd5U-UVTGNEY2tjV3lpa28

>>16460691

>thanks my dude

>>16459478

Ok I found the bug. I'm retarded. I was creating a dummy buffer to get the memory requirements for a speciifc buffer ahead of time and I forgot to set the usage flag to the actual desired usage.

>>16460341

>Do you have a riot or disc?

We also have an IRC.

>>16461318

Never heard of riot before. Looks cool.

>>16461184

>look at me i hate all the things people tell me to hate do i fit in yet haha

Get a life and learn facts before you shit on something retard

>>16461378

> facts

Discord sucks.

>>16461378

>learn facts

Fact is Discord is only used by casuals, gays and trannies. Everyone has Steam, it's not like you're somehow forced to use Discord in addition.

>>16461329

>gaps

>>16461720

>muh extra 2 LoC

>>16463041

He crawls real quick.

>>16461350

>>16461318

Is Riot like one of those off-brand synonym programs that's secure, private, and FOSS?

>>16463198

Yeah.

https://about.riot.im/

https://github.com/vector-im

>>16463198

I wouldn't put 100% trust in Riot itself, but it uses Matrix so if someone has a "riot server" you should be able to talk to it with a different Matrix-based program anyway. https://matrix.org/

>>16463041

>discord sounds

Filtered

>>16463198

In theory yes, in practice no. Riot is federated however most people use one server (riot.im), which was compromised recently. It's also integrated with google captcha and you have to solve one to make an account. Also all of the clients are either really bad, except for the one electron client that most people use, which is the most mature client it has, but is still an electron app.

>>16463262

Is there any good chat client that isn't IRC based?

>>16463269

I'm stuck using things like gajim. I don't have any good IRC clients so it really makes it hard for me to motivate myself to use IRC. It makes me want to bite the bullet and write my own client… I hate the shitty UI all of the clients have.

>>16463279

What kind of UI problems are you talking about? I know a client like Weechat is pretty customizable. You could write some plugins for that or some other client like it rather than rolling your own.

>>16463285

All the clients look stupid and the text is too small and they're made in GTK. Gajim doesn't update the screen properly and if I want to connect to IRC and XMPP at the same time I have to have two clients open. The UI is annoying and small and inefficent and everyone uses GTK for everything, just, it's hard to describe but It bothers me, it's not something I can fix with a plugin because my issue is with the base UI, and the lack of multi-protocol support, etc. there are kind of some ideas that I have about the client I want, basically I have 5 clients open for the protocols I use at all times and they're all stupid in their own special way. I can't just fix it with a plugin because even if I make one client less shit I will still have 5 programs open

>>16463279

>Start to make game

<End up making FOSS Discord

/agdg/

>>16463310

FOSS discord implies that I would invent a new protocol (worthless) instead of trying to implement all of the protocols everyone i'm trying to talk too is on.

>>16463314

Was simplifying for effect.

>>16463415

But does it allow images?

>>16463422

Not so far as I'm aware. If this is an XMPP question then I can't say because don't know how well the XMPP plugin supports the standard. I doubt it displays images in the terminal however.

I'm sorry I couldn't help you solve your problem.

>>16463472

A stealth game with a focus on detailed firearm and computer system simulation. Current title is Trigger Control.

>>16463499

First person.

>>16460978

IRC is pretty much dead. Just clients idling everywhere at least on rizon; I don't connect on freenode or any network that doesn't mask the IPs. #8/agdg/ on rizon is dead too.

>>16463526

I do have a number of character's in the brainstorming stage, but it's very early so a lot could change. I'm still working on the mechanics.

During the first stage the main character has a friend named Rich who gets him to sneak into a warehouse and steal copper for drugs.

Later there's a private contractor who hires the player onto his team.

There's also a gunsmith, computer guy, and driver who all work with the contractor and inhabit a central base of operations.

There will probably be other characters as the plot demands, and some of these characters may go away if they don't fit.

More confidently I can say that there's going to be guards, police, swat, and special forces in the game. These are also the only characters that really need voice-lines for gameplay purposes. The rest of the enemies are robots and automated defense systems or they can deliver their lines through pure text.

>>16463536

The IRC standard is not entirely dead but it has dropped a long way from where it once was. It's a self fulfilling prophesy, sadly. Nobody uses it because nobody uses it.

>>16463536

These chats are just time sinks anyway. It's rare that you ever get anything useful out of it. If you need to spitball ideas, feedback or anything just use the thread.

>>16463536

>#8/agdg/ on rizon is dead too.

I have no idea what the fug I should even write there despite lurking for over a year I think.

>>16463819

What is it that you didn't understood?

How about some classes on reading comprehension?

all this talk of chat clients, meanwhile a lone tumbleweed blows through >>>/agdg/

>>16463905

AGDG is too small to sustain its own board, multiple threads and chat clients.

>>16464008

Hencewhy people should only support the threads for general updates and the board for individual threads to individual subjects and games.

Do you think a 500 microsecond GC pause would introduce any noticeable judder, and would double buffering cover this up?

Learning GDScript to use Godot is difficult since I've only ever worked in strongly typed languages before. Is there any tips to get more used to this or should I just make use of Godot's C++/C# support? (Even if C# support is incomplete, I feel like I'd have a better time making anything if I was using that)

>>16463261

>(1) and done talking about filtering anybody

Filtered :^)

>>16464112

Download these templates:

In-Game Console

3D Platformer Demo

Navmesh Demo

any 2D platformers

Read these:

Sams Teach Yourself Godot In 24 Hours

Official docs (even if shit)

The scripts in those above documents.

Everything in your scene tree extends root, which can act as a viewport. Any singletons instanced in the project settings can be moved to extend root. Study Object, Node, Spatial, Control, and Node2D functions. Study Python code if you want an idea of how GDScript works. And have tons of patience because GDScript is very fluid and some methods are just flat broken.

>>16464147

I said they can extend root, I meant branch off of root.

>>16464104

>500 microsecond GC pause

>200 FPS is 5000 microseconds per frame

As much as I hate GC, if your pauses are 500 microseconds and don't happen more than once per second no one is going to notice.

>>16464104

>>16464159

>allocating memory within your game loop at all

why?

>>16464266

>>16464496

Forgot a couple:

weakref( var)

get_ref()

typeof( var)

>>16464546

func _input( event)

I'm gay olol

>>16464496

smoke_tree()

>>16463279

> I don't have any good IRC clients so

hexchat?

>>16464718

>>16463279

What's wrong with MIRC?

>>16464730

And I'm talking about the old version, like 6.3 or whatever

>>16464730

hexchat is open sores and does most stuff that mirc does, unless you really need mirc for some special script hexchat should be more than enough (without nagging screens)

>>16464837

Not at the moment. Drop me an email at stolyarsky@protonmail.com and I'll contact you when I do.

>>16464858

MORE ADVANCED THAN HALO

O

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>That pop-in

What is this, 2003? Fix that shit, yo

>Former prominent Alt-right figures like Milos Yiannopoulos and Richard Spencer

Reminder /pol/ hated Rich and Milo, if anything Antifa did them a favor.

>>16464998

I second this. Go get your (((you)))s somewhere else.

>>16464989

Didn't we already troll a similar jam last year? Or was it shortly after Trump got elected? Either way, response was mediocre and not worth the amount of effort put in, if you ask me.

Antifa is a recognized terrorist group.

>>16465029

this

>>16464989

join and make a fascist game?

Also, I wish half of what they say in the first paragraph was true

>>16464989

post game

I performed each transform operation 250,000 times against a 256x256 array of int32 values. The results:

OP [transpose]:  23324 ticks
OP [rotate cw]:  37148 ticks
OP [rotate ccw]: 42877 ticks
OP [flip h]:     13995 ticks
OP [flip v]:     20330 ticks
OP [shift y]:    20058 ticks
OP [shift x]:    32941 ticks
OP [slice]:      16235 ticks

Given the speeds, I would take 20,000 ticks to be "acceptable" in this case. Flip V and Shift Y pass, Shift X needs a buffer size optimization to make it competitive, and Transposition is not optimally set up, and Rotation commands are a joint Transpose+Flip, so it ends up writing values twice, which is again not optimal. It works well enough for now, and I've identified a spot to improve it later.

Is there a free blog site that hasn't fallen to web 2.0 cancer? I just want to post updates on the meat of the page and have the right side be links to downloads and stuff. Tumblr basically has the format I want but fuck tumblr.

>>16465155

I haven't gotten an email from you yet. Is everything good on your end?

>>16466096

Wordpress if you can program PHP.

>>16466096

neocities?

>>16466123

Where's the lie, though? Just make a thread for your game on /agdg/ and it's a real damn good archive of your progress

>>16468052

You need to use a better recoil animation for that gun.

>>16468367

I thought 8/k/ hated Ian

>>16468532

>trying to shift blame so your favourite eceleb isnt as bad as it seems

Reminder that Ian is part of a commie gun club thats pretty much antifa tier.

>>16464404

It's pretty common if you're relying on UB. Are you compiling with -Wall -Wextra? It won't necessarily fix your problem, but it can help identify it.

>>16468712

Adorable as always.

>>16468712

the blush as a flat texture instead of bubbles would probably look better imo, or at least make the bubbles opaque

right now they look like warts / zits

>>16468803

He should an easter egg where you can pluck them off and they turn into m&m's.

>>16468807

stop thats gross

>>16468803

Bubbles? Also i think its just poor texture color correction. Ive forgotten about the cheek card.

>>16468729

Its too dark right now yeah but i was juat twsting in a separate room for that gif.

>>16468814

might be, the way theyre portruding off the cheek though in side profiles is just what looks funky, in anime i beieve its just a flat texture / alpha card or something, not a round shape. something about it looks off so i'd look into changing up the color / opacity on it, or switching it to a flat texture

while it's looking super nice too far, i think art wise overall the backgrounds vs the character are jarring and two different styles, is the room right now just a placeholder?

>>16468827

They are cards. I just havent updates the color of them yet since i edited her new skin textures. Also the house hasnt been properly lit yet so its dark in that area. The 2 art styles is just realism with anime. I like how it looks. I dont like everything as an anime toon style.

>>16470486

What am I looking at?

>>16461378

>We now have Tencent shills

Fuck

Hey gaymeboys

Just a heads up, someone told me over Discord that Adobe is threatening legal action to users with old versions of their software even if you paid for a non subscription copy. Supposedly ot has to do with partner software licensing expiring

No source but just a heads up

>>16472525

We need a FOSS adobe suite.

>>16472525

If that is true then they really seem to want people to pirate their software.

>>16472205

>I ran out of […]interest

m8, this is exactly how games become abandonware. 90% of game development is pushing past the

>Wow this is so fun!

stage, past the

>Fuck this is so boring

stage, and straight through the

>GODDAMMIT WHY WON'T THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT NOT COMPILE IT'S BEEN 10 FUCKING HOURS

stage.

>>16472680

We need a FOSS substance suite as well, seeing as that's now owned by Adobe.

>>16472691

>Single purchase is now a precious find

This world, man.

>>16472733

That one's going to be hard. Perhaps Blender could have a painter-like system.

>>16472798

Is that real?

>>16472813

Is Bionicle back yet?

>>16472813

You are asking the worng questions, boy!

>>16472798

>>16472813

>>16472827

>>16472829

What's so special about Bionicle anyway?

>>16472913

That doesn't explain much, anon.

>>16472908

Pretty cool lore, the toys also used to be really cool, but the later toys removed the complexity and mechanical components in them, there were a ton of books, although it was written for a somewhat low reading level it was very interesting, especially if you are 8 or 10 or something, I don't really think that a better series of science fiction books existed that were written for that reading level.

>>16472908

Bionicles where the shit my nigga, loved that shit when I was a kid.

Shame they discontinued it, but it was for the best.

>>16472908

Bionicle is developed enough to be something beyond a Lego franchise.

>>16472970

Galidor and Animorphs come to mind

>>16472733

>>16472768

You can kind of jerry-rig a poor man's Substance with Blender 2.8 using the Eevee renderer.

>>16473066

Damn, never seen stop motion boob jiggle before.

>>16473008

>Eevee renderer

Please don'ttell me that it was mamed after the Eevee of PurpleKecleon / Glip fame

>>16473202

EEVEE stands for Extra Easy Virtual Environment Engine.

https://code.blender.org/2016/12/viewport-project-plan-of-action/

>>16473230

Thank fucking god. I dont like furries, especially shitty ones, doing anything of prominence

>>16473234

I have a friend who works at Tim Hortons and he confirmed that Sunibee names every single butthole in his drawings after one of their donuts.

>>16473250

Sunibee is a meme

Syuro was my new favorite artist butthen he went Patreon mode

>>16473289

No its a typo from painkillers, sleep deprivation and phoneposting

>>16473298

My first thought was some sort of horrifying ass goblin that would squat down and suck up seeds into its asshole like a fat-cheeked vacuum hen.

>>16473368

Lists with 17 donuts at most and some very colourful anuses.

>>16472997

Animorphs was cool, I guess it's more, at that reading level and that time period, since that book series ended in 2001, the same year that Bionicle began. I remember the only way I could find Animorphs books was by finding old ones at school. Meanwhile new Bionicle books kept coming out, it was definitely easier to find and had more of a spotlight. In the end I read a lot more Bionicle because of that. But I quit reading once I was too far beyond that reading level, it just wasn't reasonable to buy a new book if you can just finish it in a day.

>>16475023

Looks like a dog xenomorph.

why am i so retarded at trying to understand uv workflow?

So i make my hi poly & low poly fbx, import them to substance to paint on them, but each piece turns into its own texture set, which I need it all on one UV map.

Do i need to just merge all my subtools in zbrush, then do hi/low poly, then move to substance?

Is there any way to work with multiple texture sets and then merge it all onto one UV?

god i suck at this

>>16475216

0/Optional. Polypaint all of your subtools

1. Export all subtools (I use the .fbx option, but there's also the .obj 3d option)

2. Retopo each subtool in a different 3d modeling program.

2a. Do your important edgeloops first with quads and uv mapping in mind.

2b. Do it in the lowest subdivision possible while giving detail to areas like the head

2c. Apply a smoothing modifier to your model and label it as low poly.

3. Create UVs and merge them together

4. Export UV'd low poly model as an fbx or obj

6. Import back into Zbrush

7. Subdivide low poly to be equal or above the polycount of sculpt

8. Project details and export it as a high poly

9. Go into Substance and bake hi poly textures onto your low poly

10. Add finishing touches in Substance.

>>16475471

I forgot, but match the size and position of your low poly with the sculpt

>>16475471

So what I do is I've made both my low and hi poly in zbrush, both zremeshed and polygrouped everything into its own polygroups (arms, head, eyebrows, clothes, etc), then I've been using uv master on both low & hi poly versions to get uv maps on unwrap all. If I move that to substance painter as a .fbx it keeps each polygroup as it's own UV map, so should I move it to maya as .fbx's, project it there onto low poly, and then move that into substance?

this is probably the hardest part of the workflow to understand for me, still learning this technical stuff. My workflow is zbrush (sculpt & retopo) > maya (transfer maps & material blocking as I want my facial features similar to animal crossings sprite form) > substance painter to paint

on one hand, I like everything being different texture sets for easy painting fill but it ruins my UVs so I'm assuming that I shouldn't be doing it this way, as you'd need like, 7 nodes for the entire map.

I'm still really new to this ;_;

>>16473234

It's true believe it or not. I think the guy who uses the renderer named it EEVEE because he had an Eevee statuette on his desk or something. I saw it in the original video showing off their alpha version of EEVEE.

>>16475596

> uses

made* what the fuck brain

After some reading I'm starting to think I've been going about handling my rendering resources entirely the wrong way. I'm anticipating having lots of objects being added and removed every frame, so the way I currently accomplish this is by using an indirect draw command and changing the instance count every frame, and copying the instance data every frame as well. I have a single effective "instance data" buffer and "indirect data" buffer (actually one buffer with memory offsets).

Firstly, apparently people favour using host-visible memory for frequently updated data rather than using a staging copy -> device local buffer, even though this isn't entirely portable. Currently I'm using staging -> device local for everything.

Secondly, apparently the canonical way to actually do this (adding/deleting objects every frame) is to have a uniform/storage buffer per frame in flight rather than using instancing, and use the instance index to get the index into the uniform/storage buffer. In effect, I've been using the instance data buffer the way most people have been using uniform/storage buffers.

Anyone have opinions/experiences with this?

>>16475629

Also, if using a device local buffer, should I use a separate command buffer for copying data every frame or should that be baked into the draw command?

>>16475837

Spoopy.

>>16475511

I heard that it's not really recommended to use zremeshing because it gives a higher poly count in comparison to manual retopo and it doesn't give animation/game friendly topology whenever you rig/weight paint. It could work for you though.

I don't know how to merge UVs into Maya as I'm inexperienced myself, but it's possible to do in blebser.

>>16475965

Wait nigger, you're making a sequel?

>>16476114

Post proofs

Shmup anon here,

Most weapon behavior done, models and effect still missing but eh that'll wait.

Currently getting back on the management part and having a clear models so I can make level switching work, and then add some small transition/loading screen in-between.

Alright finally have some time to work on my stuff again.

Graph theory. If I have a Node (in the most general sense) where would I store the connection data between nodes? Should I give every Node a List<Connection>, some kind of monolithic storage object, or what?

>>16475629

So what are you drawing? I can understand the indirect draw here, but what do you mean by instance data, is that your vertex buffer? your matrices?

I'm using host visible memory. What kinds of portability am I losing with that approach?

Maybe I have a hard time reading this, I mean I have an idea of what your resource layout is like but what are you actually doing?

>>16475511

This might help

>>16476621

If you're storing a balanced binary tree then you can store it efficiently in an array.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_tree#Arrays

There's also the two options talked about here for a more general graph.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20197463/the-best-way-to-store-graph-into-the-memory

>>16476663

this looks more for what i'm looking for, thanks, gonna watch it tomorrow to see if it clicks in my heard better. a friend helped me with my issues earlier so now all i have to do is texture it. going to have to practice this a lot so i can do it myself and get into actually getting good at it so because it's probably the only gamedev thing i'll ever have a chance in.

>>16476923

Right, sorry. I think it's good shit. Not sure what our leader thinks. He seemed busy and I think he's asleep right now.

Files load, instance, and can be unreferenced using an array. Memory leak still. WELP!

>>16475023

I'm still not sure, been kinda forming a character design over the past few months and this is kind of what I'm going for. Crescent ears pointed back, I want the muzzle a bit longer, exagerated eyebrows, bendy legs, bendy back, back hair, the tail is a new edition. This is close to what I want my characters to be based off in my game.

>>16476723

Anytime! Be sure to make low poly base meshes for your hands or feet. It might seem like asset flipping, but those take the longest to model and retopo.

>>16472733

Substance Alternatives:

Armory Paint

https://armorpaint.org/

Mari

https://www.foundry.com/products/mari

>>16477726

You can get memory leaks in Godot? It's great that you're optimizing your game though.

>>16476624

Right now I'm drawing 2D. I don't have a vertex buffer; the vertex array is currently hardcoded into the shader (it's literally just one square with six vertices for now).

The instance data consists of data that is per-instance, meaning a position transform, color, and a texture index that I'm not using yet. I suppose that would qualify as "matrices". The position transform is just added to each vertex of each instance.

>What kinds of portability am I losing with that approach?

I should be clearer; using a staging buffer is more portable only if you care about storing your data on device local memory, because devices are not required to have a memory type that is both device local and host visible. So the only really portable way to store something on device local memory is using a staging buffer. If you are okay with only pushing your data to non-device-local memory it's not an issue.

>What are you actually doing?

My resource layout as of writing that post was as follows:

>2 memory allocations, each containing one buffer (because of the different memory types needed)

>1 staging buffer, host-visible and host-coherent

>1 device-local "data" buffer with memory offsets for the various resources (indirect draw command, instance data)

>Render commands reference/bind the buffer with the appropriate offsets to access the resources

This didn't include any uniforms or descriptor sets.

I think I can distill this into three questions:

>Is it faster to use host-visible memory for streaming updates, device-local or non-device-local?

>For a buffer containing constantly-changing data such as position transforms, should there be a buffer for each frame in flight/swapchain image, or is it sufficient to just use one buffer + the appropriate memory barriers?

>If using a device local buffer, should I use a separate command buffer for copying staged data every frame or should this be baked into the draw command?

Working on reimplementation of Curse of the Azure Bonds on Godot. I've menaged to reimplement working with data. Spent few hours trying to understand simple compression algorithm. But in the end of the day it was ported to Godot.

Hadn't even touched the engine. That shit is complex. I'm afraid I'd give up at some point. On the other hand I've started it to learn how ancient ones used to write engines.

>>16458565

what colorscheme is that ? sorry for retarded question

>>16481642

I programmed in Ada once, it was awful.

>>16481642

Now this is meme'ing

>>16464404

Optimzations can sometimes hide bugs. Here is a minimal example of a case I found where the compiler uses escape analysis to prove that no references to the allocated int can escape the containing scope, and so treats it as if it were an automatic. This hides what would otherwise be a memory leak.

https://godbolt.org/z/mXQqBN

>>16481689

It's meant for reading and maintaining, not easy writing. It also makes some things (especially related to pointers/access types) more explicit and rigorous where other languages (especially C) allow you to implicitly shit all over the place, which then gets blamed on Ada. Always reminds me a bit of people complaining about how static type systems are "so unwieldy" because they can't do stupid things like 60 + " niggers". "Why do I have to explicitly do that, It's Obvious™", etc.

That said I'm not sure I'd write a game in Ada. Are there some library options that aren't FFI?

>>16481962

>Are there some library options that aren't FFI?

When I said "once", I meant that literally.

>>16482652

>if you only knew me in person

Yeah, you are clearly a faggot. Get back to reddit where you belong you degenerate whoreson.

>>16482669

The warning signs are there and you still talk like a redditor. The profile really talks for itself no matter how much you try to downplay it.

Man how fucking boring is making UI, I wanna die even more than before, at least now it's XML, which actually gets me wondering if I am doing shit right all the time

>>16477726

Issue resolved by moving to 3.1.1. Apparently materials (shader?) have a bug in 3.0.X:

https://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/19300

3.1.1. and apparently all versions of 3.x have light cull masking broken, even though it works for me in 3.0.6. and 3.1.1. GLES3 ONLY renderer:

https://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/19438

Working on this tomorrow, I have to sleep and work tonight. Off tomorrow.

>>16478226

Nah, apparently I'm fake news. Read the above. And thanks, though it looks like me wanting this game to run on toasters might be a pipe dream, shit runs at 100,000k memory even on lowest settings with only a camera, 4 nodes (Node>Spatial>MeshInstance, Camera) while Unreal Gold ran at about 90,000k

>>16482766

More importantly, does it use much more memory when you start loading other nodes and assets?

>>16482797

I know people still make plug-ins for UT99, especially for multiplayer servers. Unreal Gold mods are all but dead at this point. Not sure if anyone does anything for UEngine 2 but I'd bet games still get made for 3.

>>16482819

Killing Floor was Unreal 2.5

>>16482822

The game.

>>16482808

I'll have to get back to you on that. Godot 3.0.6. climbed in memory usage only on reset but otherwise would use as much memory as I'd expect. Resetting my scene and free()'ing everything would drop me to sub 80,000k before that weird memory climb. 3.1.1. untested.

>>16482827

You might want to fuck around with the GLES2 renderer too. I know it uses less VRAM and wouldn't be surprised if it used a bit less RAM too.

>>16482852

If I do that, then I lose this lighting juice. Every mesh in this video is using lighting cull mask/visual layers.

>>16482886

You mean the gameplay? If so, yeah lol, this was a v0.0.1 demo so I just made a bunch of intentionally difficult trash to see what worked and what doesn't. Less a gameplay test and more systems test.

>>16482893

>justifying sucking at your own game…

>>16482868

Godot 3.0+ and GLES3 doesn't even work on most toasters to begin with.

>>16482766

Speaking of 3.1.1, I tried Godot a while back on 3.0 but it stuttered for some reason in both 2D and 3D projects with barely anything going on so I stopped using it. I just downloaded this a little while ago and it seems fine so I might consider it again.

Any reason to use Godot over GMS2 for 2D, though? I can see maybe if you're just starting out with gamedev, but I've used GM for 2 years and know how it works already. I do like that Godot doesn't require a license or have to phone home every once in a while to let you keep using it.

>>16482941

Not sure as I hardly work in 2D, just UIs. Give the official Godot Discord a try.

>inb4 waah discord, it is probably one of many options but most frequently used that I am aware of.

>>16482935

I'll post specs tomorrow, I'd consider my craptop to be a toaster. Definitely not anything with 1gb of ram but it is just a fancier toaster. The memory usage is absurd, why an additional 50,000k+ memory for 3D?

>>16482928

Post game. Enjoy the (you).

>>16482964

I'm still mucking around with the nodes and stuff on mine. I'm not sure how to denote connections between groups of rooms or have it abstracted and generate it later

>>16482972

Do you mean you want to divide the generated map into regions or just how to store connections between each node? I looked for a good formula for dividing a graph into regions but didn't find any.

>>16482964

Don't worry, one of many fixes planned. Also is this the Metroid project?

>>16483011

aaa it isn't I'm tired and getting stupid ignore that question

Are there any anons in here with Blender talent who would be able to help out with a site project I'm working on?

>>16483073

Not yet but we will probably be doing it at some point.

425 posts until the post limit and there's already people nearing 40+ posts

>>16483205

(39) and still going

>>16483238

Where is your progress? You have 41 posts and not a single one is actually on topic aside from that attempt at voicework and yet you respond in a reddit manner on every single other thing. This isn't a fucking Discord server.

And before you ask, I already posted some progress here, my ISP just changes the IP every day.

>>16483226

>>16483230

Stop being faggots. Stop arguing and go make more furry choose your own adventure games, the ones that are out there are shit.

>>16483238

>>16483290

I know a lot of VAs who have your type of background. One is a furry who voiced Kass from Breath of the Wild and the Spyro reboot.

Rather than arguing, just offer on 4/agdg/ or other gaming communities instead. There are always greener pastures out there, especially with those who share your background, so don't demand the approval of those who judge you from your interests instead of your overall ability. This is a good time to break off now if you're getting shit for it.

>>16483321

I really don't know how to show that i'm not like that, and i've tried to show my ability here and had interest but got shut down because of said "interests"

>>16483290

You'd be surprised.

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=121401

Don't stare at that number too long, it hurts for me too. People are really itching for good furry text based adventure games, apparently.

>>16483379

Man… I knew fury money was dirty but plentiful…

But that's just too much

>>16483326

Those interests shouldn't matter as your ability should be judged. People don't give a shit about those interests just as long as you're good enough. You'd be pretty surprised at how eccentric those types are.

Just keep in mind that there's plenty of other places that can give you input if you don't receive any here. Just drop a throwaway email as opposed to a Steam profile.

I've been programming in C# for over 7 years and I just learned how to call functions in external dlls

A question to anyone who has actually finished making a game, is it possible enjoy playing it like an end user would and really get into it?

>>16483515

I made a shitty clicker game long time ago and I've played through it a couple times times for fun, not sure if that counts. I also occasionally play around with other things I've made. It's a bit different than playing it as an 'end user' though, you enjoy it more in the sense of feeling accomplished and being "proud" of it.

>>16483520

A book's cover is often chosen by the publisher, while your Steam profile was filled out by you and thus says a lot about you even if it's ironic. You've made an ass of yourself both on your profile and in here so I don't blame him for not wanting to 1-on-1 with you either.

>>16483448

Meant for >>16483412

>>16483556

I should have specified games that have a story / world / characters you can get invested in.

>>16483661

That's not the kind of faggot he's talking about.

>>16483672

Nigger this is an /agdg/ thread. Take your chatfag version of "fight me one on one bro" internet tough guy cancer elsewhere and maybe we can get back to talking about fucking gamedev.

>(51)

>>16483520

>>16483672

Maybe, you can fit in on a superficial level, and feel like that makes you the same, but you've managed to demonstrate that you don't really know why you're getting rejected. We can all tell that you aren't superficially acting like the kinds of repulsive people that populate those steam groups. That's not what the problem is. It's clear that you don't understand or share the values that you are being judged by.

Inevitably that kind of difference is going to lead to problems later when the fag enabler in the group who manages to "fit in" comes to an irreconcilable difference with the rest of the group and leaves. And that isn't something that anyone wants to deal with. This is the deeper problem with your profile and your posts here, it's just that nobody is bothering to explain it to you.

One day a single /agdg/ thread will be made of nothing but progress and questions about engines/games. This was not that day.

>>16483711

>>16483746

shit, what did I miss? their posts appear to be deleted now (presumably banned due to faggotry)

polite sage for offtopic dramafaggotry

>>16484419

Some guy offering to do voicework for people inadvertently outed himself as a furfag when he posted his steam. He was immediately rejected by the guy he was talking too and then proceeded to argue that all of the stuff on his profile doesn't reflect who he is as a person, that he was younger when he joined all those groups, that he isn't actually gay, and if you just talked to him as a person and got to know him everyone would just get along and it would be fine, and that he should only be judged by his voicework, not how he presents himself.

He didn't really understand what the problem we had was, because he wasn't acting like the typical kind of repulsive faggot in those groups, and he continued to argue about it, basically hoping that he could sweep it under the rug or some other people in the thread might defend him, I don't know. He wanted to fit in with the people here without understanding or regarding the underlying culture and why his superficial involvement wasn't acceptable.

>>16484486

>He wanted to fit in with the people here without understanding or regarding the underlying culture and why his superficial involvement wasn't acceptable.

>saying this while being on board filled with furfags and a thread filled with furfags

You guys got dramatic over the most miquetoast shit

>>16484892

What's the gameplay like?

>>16484906

You trying to shoot down or outmaneuver your opponent to beat them to the goal/resource, and overcommitting and flying against the walls and taking heavy damage while they do the same thing

>>16484920

3-dimensional, like the Elite: Dangerous combat system for example?

>>16484937

I don't know, it's your game. I'd make it a top-down 2D game

>>16484937

Not that anon, but:

>3D, 6-DOF, 3rd person, high speed with inertia and a boost which recharges over time.

>you can shoot straight ahead, which is mainly used for mining the resource but could, if you're really skilled or some idiot hangs still in midair, use it to kill someone so they drop their stuff.

>game takes place in an asteroid field, with some large asteroids with the resource you fight over, a lot of smaller asteroids, and two bases with a shield so the other team can't go there, where you drop off your resource to secure it

>in addition to the boost, you have a button that activates a shield for a very short period, which you can use to save yourself in case of crashing, to catapult asteroids in a direction by slamming into them, or when you're being shot at.

>then add some different loadouts, like slower-firing homing missiles, more speed at a tradeoff, etc.

>>16484950

>Not that anon

Consider lurking more

>>16484951

Consider that people butting in on conversations sometimes say that, even if we have IDs

>>16484950

Sounds pretty good, thanks anon. I think i won't use teams but just solo players, since it will be offline split-screen. Instead of having bases per 2-4 players, i might go with something like set intervals in which the accumulated resources are counted towards your points, in between which you can get damaged or die to lose the accumulated resource again.

>>16484919

Thanks bud.

>episode 6

Oh shit, what came before?

>>16483141

Personally I love SmashTV but my partner isn't that much of a fan so I think it's a tough sell. I'll try though, good idea anon.

>>16485129

That's fair. Thank you for your contributions to our history.

>>16483515

>>16483657

>A question to anyone who has actually finished making a game, is it possible enjoy playing it like an end user would and really get into it?

Can you enjoy/get invested in it? Sure.

Can you enjoy/get invested in it like an end user? No, because you won't be able to experience exploration, discovery, novelty and surprise the way they will.

>>16485942

>>16485920

Is that Fear & Hunger? I don't come to these threads much.

Anyone else making their game in Factorio?

>>16486071

I have goytube blocked. Is that the video of the doom-like engine, or is it notch shitposting in factorio again

>>16486276

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=7lVAFcDX4eM

it's an absolute bloodbath

release date: never ever

>>16486875

It looks like an eyesore because you have {} around function calls that do absolutely nothing.

>>16486875

>turning 5 lines of code into 30

don't do this

>>16486875

As the anon above said, you're adding code blocks for no reason. You can also get rid of half of your Debug.WriteLine calls by removing the "Done!" ones and adding them to the front of the next call with a \n, or slightly more correctly like

Debug.Write("Done!" + Environment.NewLine + "Generating minimum spanning tree for each area… "); because Micro$haft is fucking gay.

>>16486177

>Do the exact same thing only it's forgetting to update the descriptor sets

Maybe I should start writing TODO when I'm actually going to go eat lunch, play some SS13, and then come back and do it. My code is rapidly spaghettifying because I have two separate code paths for UMA and NUMA, so I'm probably going to have to work on that soon (tm).