882d48 No.16454787
Doom II has way better enemy variety and level design.
<B-But Doom's level design was way better, just look at Knee Deep in the Dead!
Yes, it's good and it's the only good chapter in the original Doom. Chapters 2 and 3 were fucking awful and the fourth chapter was mediocre. Doom II's level design stays consistently good.
Also, the super shotgun just makes everything better
b4d475 No.16454847
2bcb6a No.16454853
>>16454787
Doom and Doom 2 are one game for me. Like Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain.
940ac5 No.16454865
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Reminder FAT DEMON ASSES are for BREEDING and EMPTYING YOUR BALLS IN
940ac5 No.16454883
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RIP AND TEAR
RIP AND TEAR
RIP AND TEAR YOUR PROSTATE
YOU ARE HUGE, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE NUTS
f24810 No.16454902
531667 No.16454908
after you play 1, you play 2.
both are great games.
940ac5 No.16454917
>>16454902
It's not gay if you force the giant demon into submission.
18a011 No.16454925
>daily rem–
Back to wherever you crawled from
882d48 No.16454940
882d48 No.16454944
>>16454925
>Getting pissed because someone used two specific words
lmao
e1aabe No.16454959
>>16454944
>lol u mad bro?
literal reddit/cuckchan-tier
consider immediate self-decapitation
2bcb6a No.16455029
>>16454917
That is ultra gay.
be908e No.16455058
>>16454925
>Daily Rem
The best kind of Rem.
083c39 No.16455069
531667 No.16455073
>>16454959
>self-decapitation
i really want to see this attempted. liveleak, ync, etc etc always turn up empty… but i'll keep checking
083c39 No.16455086
>>16454883
>2nd pic
got more?
940ac5 No.16455094
>>16455086
He only ever did two pages and that's the second one unfortunately. He did a recolored version but I don't like it. It doesn't even have the facesitting.
9acac0 No.16455095
>>16454883
Sauce on the second pic?
9acac0 No.16455099
>>16455094
>He only ever did two pages and that's the second one unfortunately.
Got the first one?
Also care to post the recoloring?
Is his other stuff like this?
c18964 No.16455141
>>16454908
>both are great games.
But the second one is better, even if just a little
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>>16455095
>>16455099
Here's the first panel of the original plus the two redos.
The artist is Renabu. mostly draws * furry stuff. Most of his content is very different to these, which annoys me. He used to do a lot of cringy TF2 SFM stills but that was years ago.**
940ac5 No.16455170
>>16455166
>the spoilers got fucked up
Damn it
953da5 No.16455181
>>16454787
>consistently
Correct. It consistently goes to shit after MAP09. MAP10 is a lazily reused alpha test map with too few doors that causes almost the whole map to wake up when you shoot a gun. MAP11 is good (surprise surprise, it's Romero doing the only thing he succeeds at) then it immediately goes to shit again with Petersen's city maps.
c18964 No.16455189
>>16455181
MAP10 is great unless you're a shitter. The rest is great too, don't see your problem with them.
5480d6 No.16455204
Is there a board for whatever is going on in this thread? I like these degenerate conversations and want more of it.
368eb1 No.16455219
>>16455166
>Ywn get roughly fucked by a Doom 3/4 Baron
953da5 No.16455229
>>16455189
>If you don't like objectively low effort trash, you must be a shitter
Yeah, sure kid. I bet you don't even play on UV. Keep slurping the cock of your elders and enjoy great "maps" like Barrels O' Cancerous Gimmicks.
953da5 No.16455235
>>16455204
Do you even glance at the board feed on the top of this website?
19eed6 No.16455249
is there a board the demons the same way there are boards for robots and aliens
if not there needs to be one
be908e No.16455259
9acac0 No.16455261
882d48 No.16455271
>>16455235
>he doesn't just type '8ch.net/v/'
gay
940ac5 No.16455281
>>16455204
>>16455249
Well, technically there's /chaos/ but it's not quite what you're looking for.
>>16455259
Monstergirls =/= ripped demon dudes
882d48 No.16455284
>>16455229
> I bet you don't even play on UV.
You bet your ass I do. I have loved Doom II since it came out, faggot. You were most likely not even in the womb when I played Doom 2.
3578a3 No.16455313
Oh thank god I'm not the only one. I was wondering why people worshipped the shit out of Doom 1.
9acac0 No.16455316
9acac0 No.16455317
19eed6 No.16455328
953da5 No.16455354
>>16455284
Funny that you would rabidly attack others for disliking recycled alpha content. I smell a shill. Trying to sneak approval in for Doom Eternal?
>>16455271
Neither do I, but it is a nonstop degeneracy marquee.
cb36ff No.16455359
953da5 No.16455364
>>16455271
>>16455354
>Neither do I
Jesus, talk about a Freudian slip. I meant that I don't actually use the feed, just see it constantly.
9acac0 No.16455383
>>16455354
>Funny that you would rabidly attack others for disliking recycled alpha content.
I didn't, though. You called me a child when you're the only one who seems to be a kid here.
> I smell a shill. Trying to sneak approval in for Doom Eternal?
Nigger why would I shill a 25 year old game in order to sell an upcoming product? NuDoom shills are notorious to constantly shit on the originals and say the new games are way better.
9acac0 No.16455391
>>16455383
Forgot to mention, ID changes are due to my excessive use of VPN's if you're wondering
953da5 No.16455433
>>16455383
>I didn't though
Seriously nigger? I bring up a couple points to start a discussion on which maps are better.
Your rebuttal:
>MAP10 is great unless you're a shitter.
Instead of forming any kind of halfway intelligent point, you immediately went for "uuhh git gud." On, as you say, a 25 year old game. And you're going to call me a child. Seems like you're full of yourself because you just beat the games; nobody says "ur bad at doom" around here unless it's blatantly obvious because it's fucking old and frankly, not that difficult, especially compared to games like Blood and Shadow Warrior. You are insecure and it shows. Again, MAP10 is literally recycled alpha content – and that shows too. You can say you like it, and that's fine, but attacking others just makes you look like an idiot or underaged.
9acac0 No.16455446
>>16455433
>Instead of forming any kind of halfway intelligent point, you immediately went for "uuhh git gud."
But that's literally it, the map is fun if you're good at the game and overwhelming if you aren't. Git gut
5480d6 No.16455472
953da5 No.16455476
>>16455446
Why the fuck did you even start the thread if you're going to respond to every single point with "git gud?" Do you not realize that discussion is a two way street and that you are boring as fuck?
Whatever, enjoy your Book of Mormon studies with Petersen.
9acac0 No.16455494
>>16455476
>Why the fuck did you even start the thread if you're going to respond to every single point with "git gud?"
I didn't, though. Only to your posts.
9e9135 No.16455510
>>16455446
You should give Paul Thrussell's wow.wad a go: it's high-quality texturing, well-crafted architecture and ingenuously placed monsters. Think it's shit? Well, git gud!
953da5 No.16455513
>>16455494
Ah, fair enough then, since you hopped IDs so much I had no idea if you were OP or not. Still, you should learn that it's possible to dislike something without being terrible at it. Have you noticed that just about no other level is laid out like MAP10? Do you think that's a coincidence? It's almost as if the level designers learned a thing or two since they made this map and then got lazy and threw this one back in for the sequel.
No, that's not possible. Clearly I must just be bad at an easy 25 year old game.
9acac0 No.16455529
>>16455510
But wow.wad is shit, unlike MAP10
9acac0 No.16455558
>>16455513
>Still, you should learn that it's possible to dislike something without being terrible at it
I mostly just assumed because 90% of the time, people who complain about Doom II usually refuse to git gut and complain about piss-easy enemies like Chaingunners and Archviles.
>Have you noticed that just about no other level is laid out like MAP10? Do you think that's a coincidence? It's almost as if the level designers learned a thing or two since they made this map and then got lazy and threw this one back in for the sequel.
eh, i like it
dfce7a No.16455686
>>16455317
that's pretty gay anon
882d48 No.16455856
>>16455835
Final Doom fucking sucks, the only good thing to come out of it was Plutonia 2
c443eb No.16455865
>>16455856
Doom fucking sucks, the only good thing to come out of its was a million nice wads (including TNT and Plutonia).
2a8279 No.16455884
>>16454787
Anybody got that collection of Madness Combat sounds that was posted here a long time ago? I seem to have misplaced the ZIP
882d48 No.16455905
>>16455865
The base game is way better than the pieces of shit that are TNT and Plutonia, Plutonia is also made by the same guys who made this shitty boring corridor design of Half-Life that killed the FPS genre
dfce7a No.16455962
>>16455856
>>16455865
everybody knows that the only good thing to come out of doom is Brutal Doom and SgtMarkIV.
9156ce No.16456034
Yes sequels are supposed to be an improvement
Unlike modern games where they usually are a downgrade
c8518d No.16456044
>>16454787
>implying MAP09: The Pit is good
882d48 No.16456050
882d48 No.16456053
>>16456044
The Pit was fucking great you tasteless faggot
dfce7a No.16456064
>>16456050
>brutal doom bad
>>>/npc/
>>>/doomworld/
>>>/sjw/
2a8279 No.16456070
882d48 No.16456080
>>16456064
>Likes a mod popularised by e-celeb faggots like Markiplier
>Calls other NPC's
940ac5 No.16456114
>>16456070
>>16456080
He's trolling, dummies
8d9b21 No.16456140
Is this pasta?
>>16454883
Is it just me or has EVERYONE somehow gotten gayer in the last few months? Is the year of the pig extra gay?
488a05 No.16456207
>>16456140
I wouldn't be worried until people start wanting to fuck Pinkies.
882d48 No.16456289
>>16456207
People already do, pal. I'm one.
7b85e1 No.16456319
>>16454787
>Doom II has way better enemy variety
Sure.
>and level design.
Lmao fuck no.
>Yes, it's good and it's the only good chapter in the original Doom. Chapters 2 and 3 were fucking awful and the fourth chapter was mediocre.
2 and 3 were fine.
>Doom II's level design stays consistently good.
Lmao the fuck it does.
>Also, the super shotgun just makes everything better
It led to them putting more hitscan enemies in confined spaces and corridors.
262f62 No.16456430
Reminder that NuDoom > Doom & Doom II.
Those games are gay maze shit.
9e75e6 No.16456440
>>16456207
>>16456289
Some guy I know refers to baby rats as pinkies, so watch yourself if you don't want the rat lolice on you.
3578a3 No.16456657
>>16455962
>>16456050
>>16456064
>>16456070
>>16456080
>>16456114
It's okay to like things that are good. Brutal Doom is a goose mod.
10e2a4 No.16456675
>ITT millennials resenting oldfags for forcing them to play good games
Shut up, junior.
940ac5 No.16456690
>>16456675
A lot of the thread is gay porn actually
45c3ae No.16456706
Doom2 has archviles, who are adorable
968077 No.16456747
Did all y'all get recommended that H-Doom video on YouTube a couple weeks ago?
45c3ae No.16457358
>>16456747
I never get any fun recommendations, I use my YouTube very neutrally.
cb19c7 No.16457372
>>16455313
I warmed to the opinion that Doom's maps are better overall, but both games are a mixed bag and both have maps I enjoy. If I had to pick a favourite, probably MAP08 Tricks and Traps.
>>16455529
People shit on Refueling Base? That's one of the best maps except for the teleporting Cyberdemon gimmick.
>>16455558
Arch-Viles aren't used obnoxiously in Doom 2, but Plutonia has bullshit like MAP03 Aztec and MAP15 The Twilight.
>>16456044
Map is alright, but it's got one of the better music tracks.
>>16456747
What?
cdff3c No.16457376
>>16457372
I didnt know japs liked doom.
8467d9 No.16457384
>>16454787
Oh, okay. Thanks for the reminder thread.
cb19c7 No.16457390
>>16457376
They don't. The Japanese community is niche at best for FPS in general, but enough of 'em came together to make JPCP.
d723d3 No.16457395
>>16454787
I disagree. 2 is still good though.
cb19c7 No.16457507
>>16457455
Once upon a time maybe. Duke's washed up.
a95781 No.16457588
>>16457455
Yeah, superior at being a disappointment after taking forever.
882d48 No.16457589
>>16456319
>2 and 3 were fine.
Don't delude yourself
0e832a No.16459424
>>16457956
Absolutely nothing will be shittier than Duke Nukem Forever.
Except doom eternal.
cb19c7 No.16460983
>>16459424
I picked DNF out of the bargain bin for PS3 a couple years ago and managed to finish it. Its main downgrade over Duke3D was the level design and the two weapon limit that I believe PC patched to allow 4. Even so, I thought a few bits were kind of neat like the ones where you are playing shrunken Duke, and for the most part Duke as a character felt right. I dread to think how he's portrayed now with woke Randy Pitchford in charge.
Mind, I've also had more fun with bad games than boring mediocre ones. Rage didn't last more than a few hours, while I finished Sonic 2006.
03bda9 No.16460999
>>16457376
Why is doomguy so short compared to Samus?
>>16459424
Is Doom 4 that bad, really? So far I haven't even bothered pirating it because it's such a large game and I bet it's a short one too for all the disk space it occupies.
b9ddc7 No.16461056
>>16457455
Duke3D is absolutely better than Doom/2.
>>16457956
Probably, since FE/SE/3 were all shit. 2 is by far the best game in the series.
01f506 No.16461524
>>16454787
>the level design is bad because I just say it is
Play them back to back and say the same thing. It will take an afternoon. And course the enemy variety was better because… there were new enemies. That's like saying an expansion pack to an MMO is better than the base game - no shit it is, you basically already have the base game.
You don't see people going back to Doom 2 past the first few levels to try a new mod or something - but you always see them playing through the entirety of Doom 1. What you get in 2 is the canvas on which you play WADs.
41ffa9 No.16461559
>>16461524
>You don't see people going back to Doom 2 past the first few levels to try a new mod or something - but you always see them playing through the entirety of Doom 1. What you get in 2 is the canvas on which you play WADs.
Can confirm. I can essentially play through the entirety of Doom 1 in an afternoon, but as soon as I get to the Earth levels in Doom 2 I just lose all motivation. That shit is so tiresome.
562431 No.16461741
>Doom 2
>Better level design
What the fuck OP Doom 2 drops off fucking hard by midgame and barely gets better at endgame. As bad as Doom 1 levels can be sometimes they're still better then 2's
89fe2c No.16465482
>>16461741
Doom 1 maps are annoying mazes tbh. And not the good kind where you have points of reference either.
b9ddc7 No.16466652
>>16465482
If you want to see mazelike, go play Hexen. I think Doom's maps are very fair by comparison.
614d20 No.16466740
>>16465482
I'll take abstract Hell logic over getting sniped by instant hitscan.
9f3dd1 No.16466764
>>16466686
there is many die hard fans of blood.
For me personally its the weakest of the holy trinity.
The most common type of enemy, cultist is just a hitscan that on normal difficulty shots you automatically right after you get out of corner.
your first shooting weapon is one that does nothing for at least first few seconds after its fired, second is a granade… others are not much better tbh.
534a69 No.16466779
534a69 No.16466783
>>16460999
>Why is doomguy so short compared to Samus?
Samus's canon height is 6' 3" (190.5cm). She's a pretty tall gal
03bda9 No.16466798
>>16466686
SONVABITCHMUSTPAY
>>16466652
Hexen isn't so much mazelike as switch hunting. Honestly I don't understand why Hexen's combat feels so bad. Everything feels weighty and excellent to use, but fighting anything is a pain in the ass since almost everywhere you can fight enemies is a tiny chokepoint corridor and ranged enemies deal a shitton of damage.
b9ddc7 No.16467082
>>16466798
I think referring to the ludicrous levels of switch hunting across giant levels as mazelike is reasonable.
e58c0b No.16467090
Which game has the best soundtrack?
8ee82c No.16468123
>>16454787
>Doom II's level design stays consistently good.
>115 replies
d645f8 No.16468283
The fourth and last chapter of doom 1 was utter cancer.
>shitscanners up the ass
>lack of ammo and H packs
>cramming as many bulletsponge enemies in tight rooms as possible
>respawning enemies
>retarded difficulty curve
TFC is one hard piece of shit.
6b311c No.16468306
>>16468283
>TFC is one hard piece of shit.
I agree completely. Utter trash.
f834a9 No.16468652
>>16457372
>a shitty map that its only remarkable feat is that the guy used other tools that is not map editor related to make a single wad with some story made up for it
>now some goy made a art for it
>all the gud wads don't have it such as mm.wad, mm2.wad, hr.wad, hr2.wad, av.wad, 2002ado.wad, tvr.wad
I'm not mad at it but I just find it perplexing that out of all these wads it is wow.wad
91815b No.16470790