a79620 No.16441321
Is there any hope for a new sequel to MGSV that follows in the veins of the MSX games?
a56ab1 No.16441332
6ef7f8 No.16441345
I am holding out a tinny bit of hope that Konami will pull their heads out of their ass and have a comeback like Capcom is having right now. The golden area of gaming was ruled by Capcom and Konami. And if Capcom's current comeback continues to have an upward trajectory is yet to be seen. The number of great IP's Konami own, they have potential to prove all the pessimist wrong as long as they get a few competent game developers on their team. Both companies have gotten rid of their dead weight (pic related). If only the ghost of Christmas past would visit Kagemasa Kozuki and Takuya Kozuki.
42c126 No.16441350
>>16441345
Konami does not care about games anymore because their pachinko division makes 10 times as much money as vidya ever did.
They have no reason to come back at all.
45af1c No.16441359
>>16441345
No way. Just about everyone they once had jumped ship and as far as I know Konami doesn't have an Itsuno to save them.
09ce7b No.16441385
>>16441345
If Konami makes a good MGS game, do you think it will sell well? For many, the IP is associated with Kojimbo.
If I were Konami, I'd do a remake of the old games in the MGSV engine to test the waters.
46ed63 No.16441393
>>16441350
Pachinko has been on the decline in Japan for a while now. There are plenty of reasons they would abandon it in the future. All it takes is for the government to ban it as gambling, or legalize some other form of gambling and suddenly it's a dead market.
3ff9f4 No.16441394
>>16441350
Konami has every reason to care because they're a yakuza-run company like most big Japanese companies and yakuza take money very seriously. Their pachinko division does make an obscene amount of money, more than their games division. Pachinko also makes more money than Konami's chain of fitness clubs, but they still invest in those too.
46ed63 No.16441400
>>16441394
Probably because they know it's an extremely high long-term risk. Just like marketing to china, it can make huge money in the short term but it's only a matter of time before the landscape changes and it becomes entirely unprofitable.
Video games and fitness clubs might not be as big in the short term, but neither of them are really going anywhere in the foreseeable future. They also make good side businesses to aid other Yakuza interests, vidya being a propaganda/indoctrination machine and clubs in general being a front for illegal activities.
6ef7f8 No.16441413
>>16441350
>>16441359
I'm aware of this, but that doesn't mean one can't still hope for a Christmas metrical. They have the tools and the resources, they can rebuild, they just lost their way and need divine inspiration to realize material wealth is not always the highest value.
>>16441385
They have other IP's outside of MGS. A new Castlvania could easily put them back in the running. All they need to do is tap back into the competent middle market like Capcom did with MM11 and not try and invest in wasteful hit or miss gamble of creating and expensive "Blockbusters". Not to mention they could still make Metal Gear Rising Reverence 2 by partnering with Platinum or maybe even work with Platnum to bring back one of their classic arcade beat em ups. That said, I have no hope for Silent Hill, that series died after the third game. A new Suikoden would be fun, or maybe a modern shmup like Gradius, or what about a new Goemon or Rocket Knight. Konami has options.
672467 No.16441555
>>16441393
Konami also makes slot machines, every casino I've been to is loaded with Konami machines. Vegas and indian reservation casinos around the US alone would keep them afloat.
45af1c No.16441571
>>16441413
>Christmas metrical
Honestly I doubt it, unless Ritual of the Night turns out to be a MN9 tier bomb and it burns bright enough for Konami to remember Castlevania exists and then go from there.
Besides it's ramadan anyways :^)
e01143 No.16441593
A Kojima-less MGS game being anywhere near as good as a Kojima MGS game? No. Unlikely. The chances of that happening are extremely slim to impossible. Kojimbo is the creative storytelling force behind the Metal Gear franchise. With him gone, (((konami))) will keep making shit like Survive.
2744fd No.16441601
>>16441593
>Kojimbo is the creative storytelling force behind the Metal Gear franchise
Congratulations missing the point and intention of MGS2 (^:
Enjoy volbachia, nanomachines, and ass parasites.
30bf56 No.16441630
>>16441593
Kojimbo is a hack that took most of the credit from Fukushima. You can see the obvious decline in quality from when he left, MGS4, PW, GZ, and TPP were all garbage.
550f6a No.16441635
>>16441321
Just bought MGSV because its a good stealth shooter it seems, what i am in for?
2744fd No.16441637
>>16441635
>bought
>tpp
>"good" "stealth" "shooter"
>without any research
go back to >>>/cuckchan/
30bf56 No.16441645
>>16441635
If you were expecting anything other than Rambo blow-everything-up esque gameplay, the only thing you're in for is a refund.
550f6a No.16441648
>>16441645
>>16441637
Well the other choice was to buy Ghost Recon Wildlands, or Dishonored 1/2. I decided on MGSV. Is it that bad?
683d9f No.16441650
>>16441637
Don't take your inability to play MGSV as a stealth game to mean that others haven't gotten good.
a79620 No.16441652
A Metal Gear without Snake is immediately a failure.
The only way to bring a new main character is to start a new IP spinoff like Rising.
6c8e82 No.16441653
>>16441648
It's not a bad game by any means, it has great writing and the gameplay that's there is good. It's just obviously rushed and the game ends rather suddenly. T
550f6a No.16441655
>>16441653
Its not a problem for me as long as game is good.
683d9f No.16441658
>>16441648
It's not the same as earlier Metal Gear games. This is both good and bad. Some things you might have liked will be gone, but the overall gameplay isn't bad. The plot is still that special kind of Metal Gear dumb. I sunk about 50 hours into it and had fun.
2744fd No.16441663
>>16441648
>buying shit games from cucked developers
>he went for the shittiest game possible.
>>16441650
>only parameter for S rank is time
>he thinks running around flat ground with 6 people at a time patrolling a tent is the pinnacle of stealth gaming
End your life.
>>16441653
> it has great writing
Like ocelot travelling in time, contradicting and retconning previous games, a nonsensical story and 40 minutes of senile speak making uninteresting shit up about biology, 60% of missions being filler, and all missions being "remove random dipshit from the area" with Kojima missions being "go for a 2 kilometer ride through empty world to remove random shit from area"
>the gameplay that's there is good
How long going around fultoning shit not nailed down can last you before getting bored?
The controls are responsive, that's an upside, but UI is trash.
30bf56 No.16441665
>>16441648
Why were those your only choices?
>Is it that bad?
It's ok at the beginning but starts to get boring as hell when you gotta farm the same side ops for resources and actual decent soldiers. Don't expect any fleshed out stealth like in the previous games though, TPP's stealth is ass creed tier.
550f6a No.16441666
>>16441665
>Why were those your only choices?
PS4 discount deals of course.
30bf56 No.16441668
>>16441666 (checked)
>buying anything from konami let alone soyny
Just pirate the game if you absolutely must play it
550f6a No.16441672
>>16441668
I no longer pirate games.
399d6e No.16441733
MGS is leftist propaganda
41504b No.16441746
>>16441733
You can say that about any video game. It's not SJW garbage though.
399d6e No.16441748
>>16441746
It literally is though
>Le epic pregnant soldier
>Nukes bad
>Killing is bad
>Genes don't matter goyim
e01143 No.16441771
>>16441601
>doesn't like avant garde ideas in storytelling
And people wonder why most mainstream writers write the blandest shit that involves no risky or inventive ideas.
286454 No.16442242
>>16441321
You should not hope for more sequels.
>>16441394
>Konami has every reason to care because they're a yakuza-run company.
Than explain why Kojima is still alive?
>>16441593
>A Kojima-less MGS game being anywhere near as good as a Kojima MGS game? No.
Kojima is hack. They already have working engine. All they need is give it to some fucks to create more maps and missions. Just like UBIsoft made Farcry 3,4, Blood Dragon and Primal. Just use technology you have before it is old.
>>16441648
Ghost Recon Wildlands is realy good. After you play it, MGSV looks like joke. Dishonored is not like MGSV. Still cool old school game. Another game that remind me MGSV is Sniper Ghost Warrior 3. Ugly graphic but gameplay is great.
>>16441668
>Just pirate the game if you absolutely must play it.
>Using PC to playing games at all.
No thanks. I would rather pay for game that work than pay for expensive PC to see game with fucked fps drops, bugs and small library of bad titles. Even if games was totaly free on PC, i would still use PS4. Before you call me Zoomer, i had PC before Win 3.11 even existed.
3f6e45 No.16442258
All these people who didn't understand MGS2 is fucking horrifying.
286454 No.16442262
>>16442258
Yeah. But you can slice people with HF blade in VR mission in Grey Fox suit. I had more fun with that with main story.
09b630 No.16442333
My question is for >>16442242. You have described yourself as an observer and record keeper of the collapse of console gaming, to what extent is your resignation to lament a defeat for the passing world where no modding community existed, limited graphics were common place and memory cards were the norm. Is it not true that we have moved out of a world of black and white and into one of technicolour?
f0fbd3 No.16442351
>>16441321
Deep breath anon, and just let it go…
61e440 No.16442361
Depends if Kojima is secretly still at Konami.
d97f07 No.16442370
>>16441350
Once Japan legalizes gambling pachinko is going to be dead.
36bcc5 No.16442400
>tfw the only reason i still play mgsv this day and age is because i can play as a military-fu in a bikini
61e440 No.16442404
>>16442400
>they made all of these characters playable after most people stopped caring
What do they actually play like? Are they just skins for the regular gameplay?
930dd6 No.16442414
History is mostly a soap opera with action in beetwen, i dont see how it can one become engaged with it.
36bcc5 No.16442415
>>16442404
they play the same just that they are worse than snake with no bio-arm and piss poor aim depending on the skill level of the soldier
a56ab1 No.16442462
>>16442415
>they are worse than snake with no bio-arm and piss poor aim depending on the skill level of the soldier
Botanists get more medical plants than Venom even when you have all the bioarm upgrades developed. They all have better camo against night-vision enemies thanks to their balaclavas which snake doesn't have. And the lucky ones always have better fulton success rate than venom, even with all the balloon upgrades.
09b630 No.16442477
>>16442400
>I dont like mgsv
I dont like it isnt a good en enough reason too use the force of the community to stop it , I dont like cunnilingus Im not going to use
the force of the community to prevent that from happening, give the game another shot.
286454 No.16442536
>>16442333
I just like when my games works. I don't give a fuck about mods. I don't care about kiddy problems like fps or resolution. I don't PC is for work, youtube and shitposting. For example. I have Warhammer 40: Dawn of War collection. Only game i can run from that collection is Dark Cruasafe ( my favorite anyway ). That would never happen on PS4. Every game i played on PS4 or xbox360 worked and and could play it from begining to end. They could add moust to PS4 and it would be able to run strategy games well enough too.
Also Playstation had cool game like Tekken, Crash Team Racing, God of War. Xbox had Gears of War. Pc have Fallout 2. But that this old game now. Nothing realy worth playing on PC in last 10 years.
>>16442519
I played all his MGS games. Yes. He became hack after MGS 2.
2f8932 No.16442575
>>16442536
>he didnt like 3
oh you're one of those tards
09b630 No.16442588
>>16442536
Console gaming more or less collapsted in Europe in 2011 after the first world
console war, when it ceased to exist all other kinds of things rushed in to take its place but mostly what has rushed in is what I like to call
selfism , the idea that we are all sovereign in our own bodies and no one can tell us what to do with our own bodies and everything that we do is OK providing we think we aren't harming anybody else quite often the truth is we are harming other people we are hiding it from
ourselves. Your selfish desire to live in the past by clinging onto your old consoles is one of these examples.
286454 No.16442612
>>16442575
No i don't like MGS 3. It would be good game if level design was not shit in 50% of game. Still gem compared to everything after MGS 3.
>>16442588
>checked 88
>The idea that we are all sovereign in our own bodies and no one can tell us what to do with our own bodies and everything that we do is OK providing we think we aren't harming anybody else quite often the truth is we are harming other people we are hiding it from.
try /pol/
4603de No.16442617
>>16442519
There is absolutely nothing wrong with MG Acid 1 or 2
They should have just used the Acid timeline for MGSV so we can have a game about Solid Snake or a clone of him instead of another big boss game.
017c48 No.16442624
>>16442519
I've heard nothing but good things about MPO. And don't forget about the tornado of cuhrazy that is MGR
2f8932 No.16442639
>>16442617
AC!D was fun but all the link cards are BS considering the deck is randomized. though I'm not much of a card game player. Also not enough MOVE points.
>>16442624
literally play it. its a smaller Peace Walker but with MGS3's controls. Remember how PW had the Fultons? Its the same except you gotta drag dudes MGS2/3 style all the way back to the truck every time. Yes its slow, and yes the camera gets caught on the geometry like in MGS3 and you cant even use a right stick to move it.
its a portable MGS3 but it doesnt really work. PW improved literally everything about it.
>>16442612
level design is the worst thing you have to say about MGS3??? really?
286454 No.16442653
>>16442639
I didn't have other problems with that game. Just lame areas where you walk in cardboard forest stoped me from playing.
2f8932 No.16442655
>>16442653
what the fuck are you talking about?
you're pretty much admitting you've never actually played it, you know
286454 No.16442659
>>16442655
I made it to part where you pretend to be scientist in some base and could not find where to go. But i was already bored at that point anyway.
2f8932 No.16442663
>>16442659
"I got lost and never played the game again"
Arin Hansen, get out.
2f8932 No.16442670
>>16442659
>>16442663
this is even funnier/more coincidental because he himself admitted he did this shit in MGS1 with Meryl's Codec and Psycho Mantis
d97f07 No.16442683
>>16442659
>could not find where to go
286454 No.16442691
>>16442663
I don't have to enjoy same games like you. I wanted to play game with Solid Snake. Not someone who looks like him. I never cared about anything in that game. I didn't find Naked Snake cool. I didn't enjoyed gameplay and story.
I just wasted fer hours waiting if it will actualy become good. It was cool in one area with enemy camp but everything else was like fake forest. And graphic wasn't even good.
But i know fans love MGS3 so i expect hate for this post.
286454 No.16442696
>>16442683
>>could not find where to go
i droped that at 02:00 at night. never bother to continue. had another 70 games to play on PS2.
2f8932 No.16442697
>>16442691
>"I'm an expert on Metal Gear! I've beaten all the games and have declared every one after 2 a failure!"
>"I-I dont have to enjoy games"
you're really obviously new here, so leave before you embarass yourself further
d97f07 No.16442700
>>16442691
>But i know fans love MGS3 so i expect hate for this post.
The hate is mostly because you type like a retarded ESL and are acting like an authority on a game you never even finished.
286454 No.16442704
>>16442697
I never said i am expert or that i beat them all. I finished MGS 1,2,4 and V.
>>16442700
Why should i finish game i don't enjoy? Do i have to eat whole shit to tell you i don't like how it taste?
2f8932 No.16442713
>>16442704
>I never said I beat em all
you said here >>16442536
>I played all his MGS games.
excuse me, most people on /v/ arent too retarded and can finish a 20 hour game. Not to mention, MGS3 being the best selling and most award winning PS2 exclusive of all time.
point is, your entire argument is invalid now. like I said, logoff. its bed time kid.
2f8932 No.16442714
>>16442710
you can emulate MGO2 I'm p sure. also "only"
286454 No.16442726
>>16442713
>played all his MGS games.
i played them all but never get far in MGS3 , Portable Ops and that Peacewalker. I simply don't like Naked Snake and that whole gameplay in these games. My argument is that Kojima best games are MGS1,2 and V. I don't like rest. You can have your own opinion.
2f8932 No.16442731
>>16442726
how many times do I have to tell you to shut the fuck up. Your retardation is fucking up the thread.
>Kojima was a hack after MGS2
>except MGSV
>liking MSV over MGS3
kill yourself. commit suicide. you are a waste of oxygen.
286454 No.16442754
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>>16442731
You can tell me whatever you want. Not like i give a fuck. MGS V is still better than MGS3 because it is fun to play it. Even if it could be much better game they make it like Ground Zeroes. Suicide is still option anyway.
000000 No.16442793
>>16441321
Kojimbo is a fraud that never worked on any games and simply stole finished works from other people. MGS V was another attempt from the fraud to try to steal work from others, but it was unfinished work, so he blamed the company (Konami literally did nothing wrong) and finally got fired.
So, no. Konami (the good guys in all of this) are recouping their losses caused by Kojimbo (the fraud), and anything related to Metal Gear will be used exclusively as cashgrabs, while the fraud exposes himself as such with his Pedowood's marxist comrades and their attempt at creating a interactive movie called Death Stranding.
b9b80c No.16442872
b9b80c No.16442874
>>16442867
Aka you are not allowed to say nigger?
2f8932 No.16442880
>>16442867
>>16442874
>you gotta follow the rules of the guys who put in all the work to get it up and running again
then learn to save MGO yourself nigger
b9b80c No.16442911
932999 No.16443056
>>16441652
>A Metal Gear without Snake is immediately a failure.
which Snake? Solid? Naked? Venom? Raiden formerly known as Snake?
286454 No.16443067
>>16443056
They can make new clone anyway if they want. Ultimate Snake for MGS after MGS 4.
2eb416 No.16443110
>>16443067
Just call him Plasma Snake and put him in MGR:R 2. Or alternatively you could bring back Solid but put him in a complete cyborg body if you want a stealth-oriented game.
The MGS universe has nearly gone GitS, anyway. May as well embrace it.
2c5285 No.16443121
>>16441321
>Implying the new MGS isn't in development as we speak
d42640 No.16443248
>>16443110
How about infiltration by doppelgangers, with a real knife-twist reveal in the middle that the deception and coercion are so deep that we, as players, can recognize that a prominent figure DEFINITELY isn't who they say they are, but they don't even need to look similar to overtake someone else's life. That, while everyone has at least seemed like convincing duplicates up to that point. The Snake of that game feels like he's taking crazy pills until someone monologues about how these "forces that be" are so dominant that it doesn't matter anymore, if they want to replace someone, they can do it regardless of scrutiny through social manipulation.
6aed83 No.16443289
Just give me a MGS3 remake in the fox engine.
2744fd No.16443307
>>16443289
>Just give me a MGS3 remake in the fox engine.
your wish is fucking retarded, fox engine is shit.
61e440 No.16443317
>>16443289
It doesn't even really need remaking. Only the MSX games really need remaking, and then maybe MGS1.
6aed83 No.16443321
>>16443296
danke
>>16443307
A peace walker remake then.
>>16443317
I kind of like MGSV's shooting mechanics.
61e440 No.16443333
>>16443110
>the sheer amount of documentation they have on the various Snakes takes form as a rogue AI
Would actually make a cool plot point for MGR2.
<never ever
2eb416 No.16443367
>>16443248
>villain is initially presented as being the original Solid Snake
>doesn't act at all like him, outright bloodthirsty enjoys all the killing type
>reveal is that he's actually some random guy's brain who did so well in the virtual S3 program the brains from MGR:R were in that he was selected to impersonate him
>decides that the only way to wipe away all the lies and deceit of society is to go full-on Kazynski and EMP the entire planet, even if it kills him
>>16443333 (checked)
I ought to stop getting my hopes up with these threads, there's too many good ideas that'll never get used.
bcf725 No.16443377
I didn't care for the series much after MGS3. If they do another one I think a return to the basics would be in order… no open world, no soldier recruiting, no base building (except not really because you can't customize shit) nunna that shit. Just one man, sneaking into a big base with some postmodern mindfuckery at the end.
b416df No.16443480
>>16443121
Then I'll be looking forward for it then, a kojima-less game is a better game if you ask me
d14ae3 No.16443599
>tfw the best part of the game is the part I discovered by accident
Paz's side quest unironically leaves the player with the Phantom Pain Kojimbo talked about better than most of the main missions. I'm convinced this part was supposed to be the lead up to the final mission, since Paz's name appears in the opening credits of it. It also makes sense narrative wise, since this is supposed to be the moment where Venom realizes he isn't big boss. It's surprisingly subtle, too.
>1st cutscene
Venom is hallucinating the entire scene as he tries to cope with his failure to save Paz. Kaz's explanations of events flies in the face of what you saw in GZ as Venom unconsciously alters his own memory of what happens. The flashback to the helicopter shows two Venom Snakes in the same scene. It's a cool shot, but it's also a giant hint. Ocelot's breakdown of Paz's mental condition is actually a diagnosis of Snake's condition.
>2nd cutscene
Skull Face's death doesn't bring a resolution to any of the pain Snake is going through, and that's reflected by Paz's refusal to speak or emote. She's conflicted about how she should feel, but Snake interprets this as Paz not wanting to cheer over someone's death when she's known as an Angel of Peace. Instead of resolution, the painful memory of Paz's death is only starting to get worse. The opening of Paz's scar indicates that Snake's memories are slowly beginning to come to the surface. There's also a really cheeky line from Ocelot in this scene.
<Snake: Her wound's open.
<Ocelot: Yeah. She was all stitched up, but then it went back to this.
<Snake: But why?
<Ocelot: The medic has no idea how it happened. He figures it must've been self-inflicted
Ocelot's not really talking about the medic that treated Paz. He's referring to Snake himself. Or really, Snake is referring to himself as the medic, but doesn't yet realize it's him.
>3rd cutscene
Everything comes to the surface as Paz's wound is fully opened. Snake relives the moment he lost her and wakes up to find that the room he kept visiting was just an unfinished platform. Paz, Kaz, and Ocelot are nowhere to be found because it was never real. Left with a lingering phantom pain, he reaches out towards butterfly that isn't real with an arm that's no longer there. The player is left with the final Paz tape where she speaks openly to Snake, and to the player, about everything. Interestingly, Paz refers to "You" and "Snake" separately, because Venom has realized that he's not actually Snake.
At this point, you're most likely nearing the end of the game. After everything you've done, there's no resolution. Kaz is still fighting a phantom menace and remains blinded by hatred. The kids are gone and Sahelanthropus with them. Huey was exiled and Quiet self-exiled to prevent a third outbreak on MB. The player has pretty much lost everything at this point. Paz's final message is not to Snake, but to the medic that failed to save her nine years ago. There's more to remember than hatred and rage. Take that pain that haunts you and let it fly out. Mourn, accept, and move on. Paz will always watch over you as an angel of peace, not as a phantom pain.
Another cheeky line in that tape is when Paz says she'll always live within you. Snake has fragments of Paz's bone and teeth literally embedded inside of him. This was supposed to lead you right into the final mission, but I guess they just never got around to it? Again, Paz's name is in the opening credits, so that's what makes me think that. It would've made more sense that way, and the ending wouldn't seem so abrupt and out of left field.
If the game had more scenarios like these in the post-game, I would've liked it a lot more. I mean, the game's fine and it's stupid fun, but it's a shame how much potential was missed. Also could've used with more horror segments like the opening hospital segment. Would've been great if Chico were in the game so he could haunt Mother Base or something.
bd4fa5 No.16444748
>>16443619
>If Fox had been able to render more than 24 characters at once
Survive can handle around 50 at a time.
f73cd6 No.16444757
>>16441648
>Well the other choice was to buy aids or cancer. I decided on shit. Is it that bad?
Yes, it is bad, and your taste in games is bad. I suggest eating a shotgun.
f73cd6 No.16444793
d97f07 No.16444795
>>16443599
It would be better if there really was no second bomb. The game could have used more cuties to bring with you on missions.
5d08f2 No.16444801
>>16443289
>turn a perfectly playable, functional game with good design into an open world meme experience
>>16443317
I'd honestly like the MSX remakes since the originals are so primitive. Even people who know about them ignore them despite those games being all about the rise of Snake.
MGS1 got a remake already and it didn't turn out that well. It feels a bit rough around the edges if you play it today, but it still works.
9bef29 No.16444813
>>16444801
>Change engines = completely change the gameplay and level design
You visiting from Baka Bay?
bd4fa5 No.16444816
>>16444813
Are you?
That's what happened with Twin Shits
5d08f2 No.16444831
>>16444813
Then why remake it if you're going to keep the levels exactly the same? The original was designed with very specific limitations in mind and you wouldn't be taking any advantages of the new engine.
The only benefit then are the prettier graphics and that's assuming the remake is as functional as the original. Hell, the HD edition of MGS3 has some cut content. How much more would get cut if it were made today?
The point that I'm trying to make here is that it's a game that doesn't need remaking.
9bef29 No.16444847
>>16444831
I'm not the anon asking for it, just pointing out the engine doesn't define level design like you were implying.
bd4fa5 No.16444849
>>16444827
Twin snakes implemented mechanics from MGS2 that weren't intended in MGS 1 like
>tranquilizer gun
>first person aim trivializing ocelot fight
>hang and drop which breaks the pacing of PAL card sequence.
2b25cb No.16444868
>>16444849
>breaks the pacing of PAL card sequence.
<he didn't use the steam and nitrogen pipes in the room
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
f73cd6 No.16444871
>>16444801
>I'd honestly like the MSX remakes since the originals are so primitive
Quit being a casual. The original Wolfenstein games on the Apple II are primitive. The MSX Metal Gears are way more accessible by comparison, and still are playable provided you aren't a baby who thinks MG started with Solid.
5d08f2 No.16444894
>>16444871
Sure, they're not unplayable, but the problem is that there's not a whole lot to do in them.
You can play them once but then that's it. There's nothing new to try after that.
bd4fa5 No.16444902
>>16444868
that's even worse. thanks.
61e440 No.16444960
>>16444871
They aren't incredibly good games or anything, as far as games from that era go. You don't have to defend every old game to prove you're a retro wizkid.
c0df41 No.16445193
Maybe, Konami is sitting on goldmine. They would make shitload of money if they remade every MGS game in FOX engine. So when they remakes every game up till V there is chances they would want more so we could get sequel to V. There is easily room for one more game that set between V and MG.
a56ab1 No.16445279
286454 No.16445284
>>16445279
Thanks. Why do i even bother living in shit planet.
5d08f2 No.16445300
>>16445284
>shilling your shit on /v/
I'm not sure what you expected.
4603de No.16445303
Who is the best Metal gear girl and why is it Venus?
5d08f2 No.16445316
>>16445260
I know nothing about ripping assets, but there is a PC version of MGS2, so you can look into that.
MGS3 and 4 also have fantastic aesthetics.
>>16445303
Kaz is best girl.
>go out on a mission
>while you're away your housewife takes care of the home
>come back after you've succeeded
>everything is nice and tidy
>new recruits have already started their training
>things are great
286454 No.16445317
>>16445300
I would upload webm or mp4 but i can't export it now for some reason. Yeah. Good to know that even on 8chan people shit on me.
5d08f2 No.16445323
>>16445317
Nigger you're on a site widely regarded as having the most hideous community on the internet.
Go find a hugbox if you really need it.
286454 No.16445327
>>16445323
I think rest of interent is worst.
bd4fa5 No.16445346
>>16445316
>Kaz is best girl.
Then why did you post some edgy cripple?
6ef7f8 No.16445354
in hindsight can we all at leas agree the MGSV is the best MGS aside from Peace-walker
d97f07 No.16445379
>>16445354
Too much online bullshit.
324f4a No.16445388
>>16442462
>the lucky ones always have better fulton success rate than venom, even with all the balloon upgrades
I'm fairly sure you can quite easily reach a point where your fulton success rate is 100% even if your idea of knocking someone out to fulton them is shooting off their kneecaps like I do.
41504b No.16445391
41504b No.16445393
I started to notice that 8ch has too much people with bad taste in video games. What happened?
bd4fa5 No.16445406
>>16445354
>A downgrade of a fucking psp game in every aspect aside from graphics
>best anything
it's not even the best fox engine game with words "metal" and "gear" in title.
>>16445393
Jews leading the frontline of welcoming refugees into communities.
d7ca30 No.16445419
>>16441773
Then just treat any story past MGS2 as non-canon.
Simple as that.
Also, The Boss didn’t “Single handedly win WW2”
She had a team that seemed to me to do more leg work than she did, unless there was some obscure codec call where it explains that she had the End snipe Hitler that I forgot about, and as for being pregnant with Ocelot. That earned her a battlefield c-section on D-day that left her with an ugly scar. She beats Snake because he holds back and then when they fight for real he ends up killing her. I do agree that Kojima making everything about the Boss was a shitty retcon, but as she is presented in the context of MGS3, I really don’t have any problem with her. At the end of the day, Metal Gear is essentially anime and if we started calling any anime that had women fighting SJW shit then the whole island of japan would become Tumblr. I wish Kojima didn’t lay the “mother to her men” shit on so thick.
804862 No.16445449
>>16445354
MGSV is easily the worst what the fuck are you talking about?
>3DPD
This is b8 isn't it?
2c5285 No.16445592
>>16443480
Only if they get Fukushima back and put in more Mecha.
f3d84b No.16446574
>>16445317
>Good to know that even on 8chan people shit on me.
nobody cares about you, faggot.
if you want people to smile and slap when you say inane shit, go to reddit. they won't give a shit, either, it's just that faking empathy to retards is an easy way to get upvotes, and they love those fucking things
but if you're curious mr (16) your reception here is due to the fact that you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded. in future try making fewer posts per thread or, ideally, none at all
6a5d9a No.16446967
>>16445316
>Kaz is best girl.
>Becomes a butthurt bitchboy ex-boyfriend who fucks everything up, goes to your enemy to spite you, then raises your clone kid to kill you and helps establish the Patriots plan of domination
>Fuckwad might have been given clone body parts as recompense
Aside from failing to see the bigger picture, everyone in TPP was a fucking villain in various degrees, fuck that whore Strangelove for working with the people who fucked with Big Boss and MSF and help create the Patriots while making a fucked up baby that was Otacon while telling The Boss that their "Child" will inherit her will, while working with the people who killed her apprentice, fucking subtle spiteful cunt, fucking Goblino Base Bomber was right that Miller was a fucking traitor and glad he ended that dyke's plans.
e38d70 No.16447051
>>16446967
Is Ocelot the only good guy in the entire series?
>Is best bros with Big Boss even after he "betrayed" him, didn't get butthurt like Miller
>Lives for the Keikaiku, all his actions and motivations have been to fuck over the Patriots
>Doesn't care about the "Boss's legacy", fight to end the regime using his mother's will as justification for global control.
>Uses revolvers, the most patrician firearm barring flintlocks.
>Tortures people because it speaks to him spiritually
>Is on everyone's side and no ones side all at the same time, the only constant being betrayal, going so far as to betray himself at some points.
6a5d9a No.16447705
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16447051
He might as well indeed be the only fucking guy who has any idea on what to do, even his ruthless reputation was just a ruse.
c18683 No.16447718
>>16447051
I like this picture, it portrays the creation and death of a meme pretty nicely.
3a1671 No.16447766
>>16441321
I feel like i belong in minority of people who actually liked MGSV.
61e440 No.16448152
>>16447766
It's a good game. Just not the good game people wanted.
96024b No.16448265
>>16441773
>Single handedly won WWII
t. faggot who didn't play the game
The boss had the entire Cobra unit backing her and The Sorrow (Ocelot's father) died protecting her, proving that she isn't some perfect Mary Sue because she's only alive because of a MAN's sacrifice.
d97f07 No.16448300
>>16448265
She killed the Sorrow herself after the war.
61e440 No.16448582
The Boss isn't a Mary Sue, because she's not the protagonist, smart people. She's the wise mentor figure. Are Gandalf or Yoda Mary Sues because they're so much more impressive than the other characters? No. That's their role. They represent an ideal to be looked up to.
If Kojima ever made a game starring the Boss, she'd probably be slipping in bird shit and looking as much of a goofball as the rest of his protagonists, and a lot of that sense of untouchable perfection would evaporate, like it evaoprated when Big Boss became Jack, the weird manchild who believes in Santa and has nightmares about vampires.
f4e613 No.16451628
>>16441593
except Hideo Kojima is garbage after MGS2, and frankly MGS2 was massively pretentious.
The best thing for MG would be for Konami to completely re-do the entire franchise without Kojima. Focus on the big ideas but without Kojima's shitty Americanized liberal hot takes and superficial "postmodern" cliffnotes.
f4e613 No.16451633
>>16448582
>she
Kojima deliberately made her a cunt because feminism, hence the Boss's retarded idea of world peace. So many of you stupid fucks fail to realize that Kojima is an OG sjw before sjwism was cool.
f4e613 No.16451641
>>16448582
>>16451633
and more, Kojima's whole "Quiet" character in the god awful mgs5 is one big copycat appropriation of Jacques (((Derrida))) into videogames, overdoing the pronography because you morons didn't get the message the last four games.
f4e613 No.16451746
>>16451633
>>16451641
>>16448582
>"In 2013, Hideo Kojima said he designed Quiet “as an antithesis to the [way] women characters appeared in the past fighting game who are excessively exposed.” He argued Quiet fits into the game’s larger theme about “misunderstanding, prejudice, hatred, conflict caused by the difference of language, race, custom, culture, and preference.” In the best light, Kojima has consciously chosen to make Quiet a symbol of sexuality, even as she doesn’t seem to have any of her own. All as a way of showing how superficial people’s response’s to hollow signifiers can be, jumping at the sight of potentially offensive material and using it as a sawhorse for negating both the work and the person who made it."
>Quiet is quiet because her voice has been robbed by sexism, which only allows her to exist (survive) through her skin (socially constructed beauty)
<using ebin irony to make phallocentric sexists feel guilty about their penis, and I'm shoving this virtue signaling into the wide purpose of my game, which is to combat racists and nazis everywhere. Don't discriminate against anyone except the discriminators!
what a liberal faggot Kojima is. It makes perfect sense that he went to Hollywood.
https://archive.fo/pTNLC
b416df No.16451819
>>16445592
agree, MGS4 rex vs ray fight was the best
5f3d80 No.16452013
>>16451746
>negating both the work and the person who made it.
I'm sure digitally scanning Joosten's feet and increasing her tits in the 3d model were worth 80 million dollars (^:
>her voice has been robbed by sexism
Quiet speaks in the beginning, and is fully clothed.
Fucking sexist XOF telling a stronk empowered woman to bring actual weapons during an assault that no target is supposed to come out of alive with primary targets being two recently comatose cripples, one missing an arm the other an eye.
Firing the military consultant was a smart, bold and empowering move so you end up with
<XOF strike squad throws a smoke grenade to blind themselves
<nobody checks under beds
<XOF dude doesn't want to see whose leg a patient he executed was grabbing before said execution
<XOF dude with an RPG/Panzerschreck/bazooka bootleg using it inside a hospital he's assaulting
<XOF guys double-tapping corpses but clean, unwounded bodies make them stop and think about life and their purpose?
b8f1b4 No.16452751
>>16451628
>The best thing for MG would be for Konami to completely re-do the entire franchise without Kojima.
I like your style. It seems improbable, but if the franchise were to achieve critical success void of his jurisdiction, I would wonder if the fact that his celebrity and direction is nonessential to MGS would keep him awake at night.
>>16451628
>>16451746
You know, now that you mention it, one of the vibes I got from MGS2 was that it was questioning traditional gender roles. I won't necessarily call it fact, but I'll leave it here and let you digest it in whatever way you see fit. In Metal Gear Solid, Snake is a man among men - he saves the girl in the end and even defeats legendary Sniper Wolf at her own game. And there's also cutesy Mei Ling thrown in there too, stereotypical anime kawaii broad.
Conversely, I take from MGS2 that Raiden is struggling to fulfill society's masculine obligations, or at least Kojima's rendition of them. In Kojima's view, Raiden is to uphold the traditional obligation assigned by society and even by nasty icky poopoo male gamers, the obligation to be a warrior - like Snake - and Raiden simply isn't happy or satisfied with occupying the role. It looks to me like a kind of primitive "be who you are even if you're really a tranny or faggot" parable. Metaphysically, here at least, personal identity universally precedes societal obligation and tradition - the Patriot AI representing absolute duty and tradition (which is of course portrayed as absolute evil - and kind of strawmanned into a posture of duty to political figures, rather than to nation or people). When this concept is married to the "what we pass on" keynote, Raiden - the chaos agent, consummate luminary - is intended to effect these social changes, to be the cancerous cell that multiplies itself and ultimately kills the dominant organism. Snake literally tells Raiden to "stop being part of a mistake, starting now."
Although not universally the case, the dominant male - submissive female trend the series seemed to be taking with 1 reversed course with 2.
…(1.)Mei Ling, the cheery platitude whore, has now been substituted with Otacon, who incompetently fucks each maxim up. Otacon is responsible for witlessly luring Snake into the trap on the Tanker as well
…(2.)Snake mentions that he's "had enough of Tom Boys," which could imply Meryl dumped him, because maybe she don't need no man
…(3.)Olga replaces Gray Fox as the cyborg ninja, once again reversing the gender roles of MGS1. And Olga doesn't shave her armpits, like a Chad
…(4.)Both Scott Dolph and Vamp are unapologetic faggots, make of that what you will
…(5.)Fortune, a slender woman who carries a big ass rail gun, is a reversal of the big gatling gun-toting macho muscle-man Vulcan Raven, who himself has now been reduced to the size of a toy
…(6.)Emma has now replaced Otacon, even managing to piss herself in meticulous Emmerich tradition. She's also simply outclassed Otacon in the monstrosity she's programmed for this game.
…(7.)Solid Snake, the male paragon, is now basically a loser. Aside from not living happily ever after with his toots Meryl, he fails to stop Ocelot from stealing RAY, gets manhandled by Vamp, literally has to take a nap after getting manhandled by Vamp, unwittingly activates Fatman's Shell 2 bombs which ultimately kill Stillman, sits helplessly in his Kasatka like a bitch while Raiden shoots down a jet, fails to stop Vamp from gutting Emma, uses the "infinite ammo" cheat as a crutch to battle his way through Arsenal, utterly loses his battle with Fortune and is handcuffed, doesn't even battle a fucking Metal Gear, and primarily fails to uncover the Patriots' identities.
…(8.)I would suspect that dearest, dearest Rose, dearest Rose, is Kojima's feminist ideal - thoughtful, "charming". . ., intelligent and caring. She pervades the game like a bad smell, like her or not.
…(9.)Raiden looks like a girl, and it's not even something worth debating. And the game is clearly aware of this fact, as the president confuses him with Olga in a very chauvinistic pussy grope. When Raiden is eventually kidnapped and stripped naked, instead of letting it all hang out like Chad would, he's ashamed of his penis, perhaps symbolizing his past swordsmanship during his stint as a child soldier.
…(10.)I think Solidus is a patent masculine analog. He's a representative of a bloodlusted warrior, in the thick of it for pride and glory, and he fundamentally tried to sculpt Raiden in his own image. His Doctor Octopus outfit inflates and bulges, giving him comically large macho muscles - and I would wonder if his tentacles or his swords represent penises. When Raiden puts Solidus to death, he symbolically puts to death the aspect of his own being that brings him great shame, the aspect of himself that society, and icky poopy gamers, both revere and demand - being a warrior and a goddamn man.
b8f1b4 No.16452761
Like I said, this apparent aspect isn't necessarily universally manifest in the game, and it doesn't cohere with the totality of the work, but I do think it's a trend, and I think it's at least worth considering. In the translated Metal Gear Solid 2 Grand Game Plan, in bold and underlined text Kojima writes, 'The 21st century will be the age of women, when women will protect men'. MGS2 has an existential dread of grand design and grand narrative, and it doesn't seem immediately inconsistent to surmise it's also incredulous at the thought of essential gender identity. Don't those disgusting pigs even realize that what they like is for children? Why even pander this next game to men? And why can't a women fulfill this role or that role too?
It think it's healthy that in the beginning people had a very visceral, almost otherworldy disgust for this game. Even on an unconscious, spiritual level, perhaps they could discern that what they were consuming was simply repulsive and unnatural.
c210dd No.16454307
>>16451633
>the Boss's retarded idea of world peace
That caught my attention too, but then again it's not like the story was that amazing to begin with.
>>16451641
>>16451746
Holy shit, that's pants on head retarded.
61e440 No.16454686
>>16451633
Maybe, but Japans idea of feminism is pretty laughable anyway. Meryl may be a strong woman of sorts, but she's also realistically vulnerable, the game lets you ogle her in her underwear, and she ultimately finds happiness in marriage.
1498ea No.16463513
>>16441332
underrated comment
50660b No.16463576
>>16452751
>swords represent penises
You are the type of retard cancer that inevitably ruins everything with your half-assed pseudo-psychology garbage. Zoomers are complete morons and shouldn't be allowed to play vidya.
040ce0 No.16463656
>>16441663
>only parameter for S rank is time
It's not??? Have you even played the fucking game? You can get an S rank with every playstyle.
ab7f90 No.16463691
>>16463576
On a side note, spears do represent phallic objects as well as the axis of the world.
4ce358 No.16463706
I've never played Ghost Babel, why do people claim it's the best in the series, exactly?
>>16443321
Any time I see this I get angry at how good a concept it is and how we'll never see it done
ab7f90 No.16463731
>>16463706
It's all muh Fukushima memes, no one actually played it to confirm whether it's good or not.
Given that the game is a 2D portable title, it's probably not much better than the MSX games.
206bc6 No.16463759
>>16443307
>fox engine is shit
>the engine that made the piss4 run a game at 60fps
you are just the most dumb person ive seen today
28c189 No.16463794
>>16463706
I played it, it's mg2 with some mechanics carried over from mgs but in a 2d environment, that's really it. it's a good game if you consider it part of the mg1 and mg2 series as an alternate spin off story and if you consider the fact it's a gbc game but
>probably not much better than the MSX games
is a decently accurate statement. if you liked mg2, you'll probably like this one.
f800a9 No.16463803
Another MGS with a new set of characters and a plot thats primarily focused on an actual metal gear with the gameplay of V would do really well I think. The snake/big boss saga should not be expanded upon any further, it was already pretty tired by 4. They could pull some "new clone made from the remains of solid snake" stuff if they really wanted to keep his appearance and the lineage, but all of the supporting cast and villains should be brand new
4ce358 No.16463817
>>16463794
>>16463731
thanks, any time I see the muh fukushima clique I imagine it's just /v/irgins being contrarians for the sake of being contrarians
8f2a13 No.16463828
>>16441345
See as much as Kojima was a hack, he was the only high up in Konami interested in even making games
Konami doesn't care, they only made Metal Gear Survive as an excuse to never make vidya games again
43a163 No.16463889
>>16452013
I still maintain that XOF was meant to be some bullshit to spur you on. When I first played MGSV, I couldn't help but keep thinking how convenient all of the hospital escape was. It was a giant and staged drama for Snake to believe in, for whatever reason it may have been.
61e440 No.16464274
>>16463706
Played it very breifly. It's fine for a GBC game. It's not as good as any mainline MGS.
525c1f No.16464298
>>16441321
Nah leave the Snakes be. Could you imagine a Metal Gear made by current year Konami? Half the game would be DLC bullshit.
b4a5c0 No.16464381
>>16463656
Score is the only requirement for S rank, and other than "no traces perfect shtelf" time gives the most points, therefore time is the only relevant source of points.
Then again, with the game's nonexistent level design it's not really a challenge to "perfect stealth" past 5 half-retarded dudes.
20eefd No.16464872
>>16442400
>muh waifus
You are the cancer.
ae7119 No.16464977
bd1a7e No.16464987
>>16442400
4k is cringe and bluepilled as fuck
0983c7 No.16464996
>>16442400
>3840x2160
I can tell you felt proud of this but you look like a retard. There is no difference between 1080p upscaled and 4k.
5cb4b7 No.16465027
>>16465009
>(1)
?is this ip hopping ? ?
c9eb5e No.16465444
Slowpoke here. Just discovered v's fix on the mgs2 pc port, and it's amazing. I almost gave up hope of playing it again
Is there something similar for the other ones?
c9eb5e No.16465554
>>16463731
I played it and beat it. It was fine, it's basically mgs1 but ported to gbc with different characters and enviroment. Controls are good. It's the same storyline with a twist. (Viper=Liquid, Fat kid=otacon, etc)